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Saturday notes: Final decisions coming soon

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Mar 26, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

After announcing his final rotation decisions this morning, Joe Girardi said this afternoon that he plans to announce his final roster on Monday. He might do it tomorrow, but Monday is probably the day he’ll fill in the blanks.* Monday just so happens to be the deadline to add Eric Chavez to the roster.

“I don’t think he can look any better than he looks,” Brian Cashman said. “He’s done everything he needs to do.”

Chavez is in camp on a minor league deal, and as Cashman explained the technical language, Chavez can request that he be added to the roster on Sunday. The Yankees then have 24 hours to agree, or Chavez can opt out and go elsewhere. It won’t be an issue.

“You never know until it happens,” Chavez said.

Fact is, Chavez is hitting .410 this spring. He’s hit one home run, four doubles and played solid defense at first and third. Joe Girardi has said more than once that Chavez is showing no signs of injury, and Chavez keeps saying he feels great. He had that minor calf injury, but even Chavez — a guy who has reason to be worried about the slightest nagging pain — was never concerned. The Yankees won’t make it official until they have to, but it’s clear that Chavez is making this team.

“He’s looked really, really good,” Girardi said.

Truth be told, most of today’s notes came in the morning. Scroll down a little bit or click here to read those.

• Russell Martin was supposed to catch CC Sabathia this morning, but he sat out because of a tight left hamstring. The fact it has nothing to do with his surgically repaired knee seems to be a good sign, and Girardi said he’s not concerned. Martin is scheduled to catch again on Monday. “We feel that he’s going to be fine,” Girardi said.

• Speaking of Sabathia: 3 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K. He threw 37 pitches, 24 for strikes. No surprise, but Gustavo Molina said he looked great.

• As for Molina, he caught Sabathia’s minor league start, then hustled back to Steinbrenner Field in time to catch all of the major league pitchers who threw the late innings. Molina caught a total of nine innings today, and Girardi said he won’t catch tomorrow. Molina got to the big league park in the third inning, just in time to catch Mariano Rivera in the fourth.

• Rafael Soriano pitched two-thirds of an inning and said this was his last spring outing. Girardi wasn’t so sure Soriano was finished until Opening Day, but Soriano said he would not be pitching again until the regular season. “I’m ready to go,” he said.

• Today was almost certainly the final appearance of Manny Banuelos, who allowed one run on two hits and three walks through three innings. He struck out three and will leave big league camp with a 2.13 ERA. “I’ve been pleased,” Girardi said. “For the most part, I think he’s handled his surroundings very well for a 19- and 20-year-old. He has been able to throw strikes for the most part, quality strikes.”

• Alex Rodriguez’s insane spring continued with his sixth home run this afternoon. He has 14 RBI and a .422 batting average.

• On March 14, Nick Swisher was hitting .188 with two RBI this spring. After a 2-for-3 game today he’s up to .250 with eight RBI. He’s not exactly on fire, but he’s starting to get something going offensively.

• I mentioned it earlier, but I’ll mention it here as well: Girardi was encouraged by the fact Curtis Granderson swung a bat today. He wasn’t supposed to do that until tomorrow, but he came through his other drills so well that the training staff let him take about 30 swings, 15 soft toss and 15 off a tee. Girardi said he feels a little more encouraged that Granderson might have a shot at Opening Day.

• The Yankees still don’t know who’s starting tomorrow. Only three 40-man pitchers are scheduled to make the trip: Steve Garrison, Romulo Sanchez and Ryan Pope.

Additional minor league pitchers added to the travel roster: Buddy Carlyle, Eric Wordekemper, Francisco Gil, Josh Schmidt, Pat Venditte, Andy Sisco, Kevin Whelan, Amaury Sanit, Wilkins Arias and Tim Norton.

Position players not making the trip to Fort Myers: Russell Martin, Jorge Posada, Derek Jeter, Nick Swisher, Curtis Granderson, Nick Swisher and Chris Dickerson. Gustavo Molina is still listed, but he probably won’t actually go after catching nine innings today.

Minor league position players who will be making the trip to Fort Myers: Luke Murton, Luis Nunez, Yadil Mujica, Ray Kruml, Austin Krum, Abe Almonte and J.R. Murphy.

Associated Press photos, that’s Chavez being low-fived by Nick Swisher in the top picture

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231 Responses to “Saturday notes: Final decisions coming soon”

  1. m March 26th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Hoot! Hoot! Rosters. Then, games!

    Thanks for keeping us connected this spring, Chad.

  2. Ed H. March 26th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Chad, any updates about the team’s plans for a leadoff hitter?

  3. Joe from Long Island March 26th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Chad – I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. You do a great – GREAT – job of covering the team. You’re very extensive coverage of ST is just one example of it. Thank you.

    I’m not surprised if Montero goes to AAA to start the season. That was the plan before Cisco got injured, and Montero’s ST performance justified the original plan. He just needs to play more, to get more experience, before he’s ready for prime time in the Bronx. Nothing wrong with that.

    Everyone else is ready. If Granderson misses the first few games, well, that’s the way it is.

    The way the guys look – thanks to health, and the work of Kevin Long and Larry Rothschild – to have pretty good seasons. I know the proof is in the pudding, but I’m optimistic. I really think they’re going to do very, very well this year.

    Oh yeah – I’ve been busy today, between work and Saturday chores. But, I caught part of the game, and read thru the posts. Some very good comments today. Oh, that we could have this every day.

  4. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Another OT …..Come on Bulter…..Is Molina the backup or will it indeed be Austin ????

  5. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    It’s encouraging news about Grandy – if he can make OD, great, but if not, then so be it. It’s vital that he remain healthy has he’s a huge cog in our lineup. It sucks because he was hot as a pistol………

  6. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Not really pleased with what Jones has shone with the bat or on defense this spring. It’s like he’s coasting on his name. I’d bet that he he doesn’t show better than he has, he’ll be gone before the end of May and they bring in someone without a name to rely on…like Golson or Dickerson. Dickerson isn’t as good as he showed today with the bat, but, he’s no dog.

  7. 4time March 26th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Feliciano was abused by the Mets. Led the NL in appearances in 3 years, IIRC.

  8. blake March 26th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    GB,

    I agree.
    -
    What a basketball game.

  9. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    GB,

    They got rid of Randy Winn last season; sure they would drop Jones if he doesn’t perform up to expectations.

  10. Melk Man March 26th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    “Not really pleased with what Jones has shone with the bat or on defense this spring. It’s like he’s coasting on his name. I’d bet that he he doesn’t show better than he has, he’ll be gone before the end of May and they bring in someone without a name to rely on…like Golson or Dickerson. Dickerson isn’t as good as he showed today with the bat, but, he’s no dog.”

    Randy Winn 2.0

    Except Jones was actually coming off a productive season last year, whereas Winn was a leap of faith based on what he did 2 seasons prior.

  11. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    What a great game between Florida and Butler.

  12. m March 26th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    What an answer by Mack.

  13. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Fran, I was expecting a little for effort or energy. That’s what is disappointing about Jones. I thought better of him.

  14. Chad Jennings March 26th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Girardi said this morning that the lineup is still being discussed. At this point, my guess is that they’re going to go with the two-lineup thing, hitting Jeter leadoff against lefties and Gardner leadoff against righties. Just a guess, though.

  15. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    ***more*** effort

  16. m March 26th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    If not Jones (not a fan but he’s got a spot), then who?

  17. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    GB,

    You can’t always go by spring training stats, but even defensively I have been disappointed in Jones. I like Golson so much better as the 4th OF.

  18. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Chad,

    Thanks for the long ST for you and your crew. I guess no serious injuries like calluses on the finger tips, writer’s cramp or serious indigestion for you guys. Successful ST.

  19. Tank March 26th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    “If not Jones (not a fan but he’s got a spot), then who?”

    Golson, because his arm is a thing of beauty.

    D i ckerson is unfortunately a LHH. I’d imagine they want a righty as the 4th OF.

  20. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Chad-

    I like to add my thanks as well.

    Much appreciated.

    :)

  21. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Wow. Butler moves on. Great game

  22. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Butler going dancing again….unreal

  23. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    I also want to say thanks Chad for all your hard work and updates this spring training.

  24. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    It would be a toss-up between Golson and Dickerson if they are healthy. With Jones, it’s defense strikeouts and the GIDPs that are disappointing. Very few fly balls hit hard to the outfield.

  25. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Man this tournament has just fell in line for Kansas…..not that Butler won’t be tough but Kansas can make the title game and not beat anyone better than an 8 seed.

  26. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
    This has been an incredible Tournament. What a game! Congratulations to Butler!

  27. Joe from Long Island March 26th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    I’m a bit surprised by Jones’ play, myself. I think the Dodgers are the ones who are still on the hook for most of his salary; the Yanks for the ML minimum. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

    I agree. If he doesn’t pick it up, he’s history. I’d give him one month on the ML roster. Come May, he might be gone. Golson, Di**erson, or Colin Curtis.

  28. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    And to think Butler was getting 4 points !!!! 2 FOR 2 going for hat trick with Zona + 3……As for Anruw Jones, did he say he lost that shallow pop fly the other night in the lamps or not ???? It was the game vs Toronto

  29. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Pat, haven’t seen an explaination from anyone on Jones’ play the other night.

  30. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Andrew might surprise us all but he’s not looked good….looks disinterested almost and his swing just makes it tough for him to make consistent solid contact.

  31. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Its hard to tell on TV but that ball looked catchable and it looked like he loafed after it….he could’ve lost it in the lights

  32. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Blake, not sure what happened over the last 4-5 years, but, he’s pretty much tanked a no doubt HOF election.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Man alive, this is reaching “I’m just going to take my call and go home, so there!” level.

    FIRST OF ALL – the decision has not yet been made.

    SECOND OF ALL – there were quite a few posters who were thinking that Montero was going to be sent down before Cervelli got hurt. NOT EVERYONE THINKS MONTERO IS READY.

    THIRD OF ALL – Do you GET that a catcher’s main job is defense, not offense?

  34. Giuseppe Franco March 26th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Being a veteran with his history, I think they’ll give Jones a rather extended leash.

  35. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    GB,

    I don’t know either. He was on pace for it. Hes never really had a great swing…it’s always been long and he’s always collapsed on that back side somewhat (not as bad as now though ). When he was younger, in shape, and super athletic he could make up for it…..as he’s lost athletism and gained weight he hasn’t been able to…..that’s the only reasoning I can think of.

  36. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Hopefully Jones is “saving it all” for the season, but I’ve not been impressed AT ALL. The admittedly very few times I’ve seen him, he shows no real hustle. I guess when you have a guaranteed spot, you don’t need to overwork yourself. I hope he shows up on March 31st ready to go. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. He must have some pride.

    ****

    I will again add my voice those applauding Chad for his tireless and comprehensive work this spring. I think this has been THE BEST spring training coverage we’ve had since I’ve been on this blog, and this is the 5th one I’ve been here for (OMG, I need to get a life!!!! LOL). Thanks Chad, you are the best!!!!

    ****

    Can’t wait for the roster to be finalized.

    ****

    Reminder: GTLU on Opening Day, but then a brief hiatus while I meet with Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and various other ‘toons and princesses. At this point, I believe opening day lineup might be more of a puzzle than we’d like, but that makes for a fun GTLU. Don’t Let Girardi Win!!

  37. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Arizona looks really good early

  38. 108 stitches March 26th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
    It would be a toss-up between Golson and Dickerson if they are healthy. With Jones, it’s defense strikeouts and the GIDPs that are disappointing. Very few fly balls hit hard to the outfield.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Jones has regressed and looks to be going through the motions. Even his once stellar defense is a shell of itself. The Dodgers are still paying him $3.2M each year from 2011 – 2014. He lacks incentive to have a productive year for the $2M he signed with the Yankees for. Bartolo Colon stands a better chance of outlasting Jones on the roster. As said previously, he may be the Randy Winn of 2011.

  39. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Giuseppe Franco -

    I wonder about the leash length for Andruw. If he’s not giving all-out effort, I don’t think the leash will be long at all. (I hope, anyway.) If he’s giving all-out effort and not having success, that’s a horse of a different color.

  40. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    I wasn’t finished.

    All this yammering about hit hitting, but MG I believe hit it right on the head. HE IS NOT READY DEFENSIVELY! Why in hell would you want to throw a catcher who has never had major league experience into a situation where he will rot on the bench except for one day a week, and on that day, hope that he can figure it out enough to catch whoever is pitching, against whatever team the Yankees are playing.

    I am definitely not jumping on any bandwagon here because I started off believing that Cervelli was going to get the job, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE CATCHER WHO HAD CAUGHT THE MAJORITY OF THE ROTATION. Certainly a plus for the team. At 21 years of age, under all of the circumstances, including his own deficiences, Montero would be best served getting a lot more regular playing time and working on his own problems, whatever they are.

    The fact that SJ, PAT M, who has played the game, and Randy, who has been a major league bullpen catcher, the fact that they all AGREE that Montero needs more time in the minors makes me even more certain of my beliefs here.

    NOBODY IS TRYING TO HURT MONTERO. But the people who would push him up to the majors in spite of what the Yankees seem to be seeing, you are the ones who would chance it just to satisfy your own egos.

  41. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    108 stitches -

    That’s the thing. He (Jones) was supposed to be a defensive upgrade over Thames, and he hasn’t looked like that at all. That ball he didn’t catch the other night – well, it sure didn’t look like he cared one way or the other whether he caught it.

  42. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    If Uconn isn’t careful they are gonna get run off the court the way Duke did

  43. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    And one more thing. Calling Jones the Randy Winn of 2011 is an insult to Winn, because I think Winn gave it his all; his all just wasn’t good enough.

  44. yankee21 March 26th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    I imagine Jones is on a relatively short leash. He has done nothing this spring and hasn’t even looked good in doing nothing!

    If either Golson or Maxwell steps it up just a little in AAA, I imagine Jones’ days as a Yankee may be limited to April.

  45. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Thames knew his role and was happy to play it…..not sure Jones will react the same with that amount of PT

  46. Giuseppe Franco March 26th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    # Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Giuseppe Franco -

    I wonder about the leash length for Andruw. If he’s not giving all-out effort, I don’t think the leash will be long at all. (I hope, anyway.) If he’s giving all-out effort and not having success, that’s a horse of a different color.

    ————-

    Fair point, but he may or may not take the last few weeks to the regular season. A guy with his history would have to be a complete disaster for them to cut him by May 1st, especially given the alternatives for the 4th outfield spot.

  47. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    It been a long off season made even longer by
    the strange weather we’ve had in most of the US.

    I can’t believe it but real baseball is finally upon us.

    Only a couple of sleeps away.

    Yeeee Haw.

    :)

  48. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    The only hitter that comes to mind who’s careers started that young and ended way too early, mostly due to weight, is Boog Powell. Pepitone comes close.

  49. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    J Al, cool that you played all the way through college. But you’re talking with men here who played in the majors. And you’re questioning the expertise of a manager who spent his entire major league career as a catcher.

    I’m not expecting any of you to back down. I just think you look more and more silly as you attempt to stick to your guns in light of all of the reasoning to the contrary.

    It appears that the best argument from the pro group is that he can learn on the job.

    :roll:

  50. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    “Rafael Soriano pitched two-thirds of an inning and said this was his last spring outing. Girardi wasn’t so sure Soriano was finished until Opening Day, but Soriano said he would not be pitching again until the regular season. “I’m ready to go,” he said.”

    A bit arrogant isn’t he?

  51. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    I still maintain the belief that Andruw will ba an asset this season…..Although I was high on Randy Winn as well…….

  52. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Pepitone’s iisue wasn’t weight. He partied his career away. He had a chance to be an all time great first baseman.

  53. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Giuseppe Franco -

    I guess it depends on the entire picture. If the Yankees are doing well, and Jones is not, he probably gets a longer leash than if the Yankees are not doing well.

    As to who gets the job in place of Jones, I guess the only thing they can do is look to SWB – Laird, Golson, I guess. Laird has shown a lot of promise.

    I just hope Jones was conserving his energy. Ahem.

  54. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    GB-

    Thing is Andruw doesn’t look to be that overweight compared with the way I saw him in recent years.

    He actually looks like he slimmed down a bit.

    Maybe I’m blind.

  55. VirginiaYank March 26th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Jones is going to have as long a leash as Winn (at least). Thames had a lousy spring training as well last year if I remember correctly. As for Montero, he won’t play in the majors until he improves his defense. He actually was starting to hit better, but it’s his defense that’s the deciding point.

  56. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Pat M,

    You could be.right and I hope you are

  57. Patrick March 26th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Andruw Jones is like a Marcus Thames that can field, which is a good thing. I think Jones will help the Yankees a lot this year.

  58. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Pat M -

    I was high on Winn, too. After the Yankees signed him, I did some “due diligence,” and I liked what I saw about the guy. He seemed to be a perfect role player type. Plus he was a “good guy” type, and of course I love that. I was disheartened that he didn’t do well. I was pulling for him.

    When the Yankees signed Jones I was really happy about that, based on what he could do and what the Yankees’ expectations of him probably were. But he’s not been especially impressive this spring. As I said, I hope he’s conserving his energy. And for veterans, that may not be out of the question. They know what they can do, and they know how they need to pace themselves. It’s just unusual. Most times a new guy will do everything he can to make a great impression.

    Now, who knows how Andruw is in the clubhouse and what his preparation is? Right now, he don’t look good. :?

  59. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    GB….Pepi ” you certainly could have made us proud….Who did the Yanks get from the Cubs

  60. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Serious question.

    What about Montero’s defense was so terrible this Spring ?

    He had a few lapses but overall I thought he looked pretty good.

  61. Giuseppe Franco March 26th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    The thing about Golson, and you could now throw Di ckerson in there as well, is that they are both fine defensive replacements late in a game or as pinch runners when they need speed on the base paths.

    But specifically Golson, since he’s the right hander, is not a guy you’d want starting many games against a tough left hander in place of Gardner or Granderson. He’s more of a 5th outfielder, not a 4th outfielder, and first option off the bench.

    In my opinion, I think Girardi would be better off sticking with their starters than to use Golson.

    That’s not intended to be an insult to Golson, but we know what kind of player he is. He doesn’t have anywhere near the upside that Jones does.

    That is why I believe Jones is going to get a much longer leash than people think. He’s got the track record. Golson and Dick erson don’t.

  62. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    WCYF -

    I read that, and I said to my husband that the Yankees certainly have an interesting character on their hands this season. :)

    First, he doesn’t want to pitch to AL East teams, then he declares himself ready and done!

    Just gotta shake your head. Relief pitchers (even Mariano) are a unique breed.

  63. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Pat, didn’t they get a minor league infielder and a pitcher for Pepitone?

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    I thought the Yankees were going to take Montero north just until Cervelli had rehabbed. It looks like even that might be incorrect. (I never thought he was going north with a healthy Cervelli.)

    If it should happen that Molina is the choice, it really doesn’t make any sense to you? Really? A guy who has 162 major league games doesn’t make sense to you as the backup catcher to Russell Martin, as opposed to a kid still working out his offense and defense and touted to really make it big someday? Really? You’d rather have a kid who needs to get his work in sit on the bench 4 days a week? Is that how he’s going to get his work in, how he’s going to progress?

    What this is to me is a group of posters who got their hopes up and should perhaps have been a little more balanced in their approach to the whole situation from jump street. You thought Cervelli was going to lose his job to a kid who never caught in the majors, playing backup to a guy who never caught any of the rotation before this spring? What Cervelli had that Montero didn’t – experience catching the majority of the rotation. I’d much rather have that kind of experience back up a catcher who doesn’t know the rotation at all.

    In any event, I think Montero is much better served staying in the minors a little longer and getting the experience he needs to come up an improved catcher. You don’t work out your junk in the majors with the NY Yankees, especially the Yankees with a rotation in flux.

    It isn’t like he isn’t going to get the call up. Face it what’s hurting here is your pride because you sold yourselves a bill of goods when it obviously wasn’t prudent to do so.

    **********
    I don’t know who is getting the call to go north. But I’ll tell you this. If Montero should get it, I still stand by my original belief that it is only until Cervelli is rehabbed.

  65. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    My error. Pepitone went to Houston for Curt Blefary.

  66. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Patrick,

    He could be that…..he could also be a Marcus Thames that can’t hit.

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Doreen – friends in Tampa have told me how “unique” he is. I’m beginning to understand what they meant. I’m not sure he’s classic “Yankee material”, but then again neither were Randy Johnson or Gary Sheffield.

    If he is lights out this year or plunks Youkalis — he’ll quickly become beloved.

  68. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    MTU, about his defense. I heard that several times, and I think SJ may have outlined it in a previous post, or someone referenced what SJ said.

    I admit that I don’t give a rat about the kid’s bat. We have enough great hitters to last a lifetime. I totally care about the kid’s catching ability.

    You do NOT throw a total novice into a situation where the rotation is in flux and your main catcher has never worked with any of them before. Not when you have any question about his readiness for the majors. Apparently the Yankees do – or so it seems from what I have read here.

  69. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    MTU, on top of that, as you or someone else already said, we did not get to watch every game in which Montero caught. But the Yankees sure did.

  70. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Trisha -

    If they were only going to take Montero up until Cervelli rehabbed, I’d rather they didn’t do it at all. I think when Montero does come up, it has to be for good.

    I was excited to think he may have a chance to make the team out of spring training, but I’m okay that it looks like he won’t. (My original position was that he shouldn’t, that he should start in SWB where he could play every day, and I still believe that.) It’s always exciting to think a rookie can break camp with THE TEAM.

    The Yankees don’t often have this situation and I can’t blame anyone for getting caught up in Montero-mania. What will be, will be, and Montero will be there when the time is right. (The only question is when is that, and as mere mortals, we’re impatient and want to know – inquiring minds want to know!!!) LOL

  71. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Trisha

    If a catchers main job is defense, not offense then how did Jorge Posada have the job for 13 years?

  72. Ed H. March 26th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Chad,

    Thanks so much for the info about the leadoff position decision.

    And again, thanks for the fabulous job that you do!

  73. Patrick March 26th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    He could be that…..he could also be a Marcus Thames that can’t hit.

    2010 Jones vs LHP: .373 OBP, .558 SLG, .931 OPS

    I think he’ll be just fine.

    Dickerson is also going to be a nice option vs RHP, same goes for Chavez

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    I am responding to an entire afternoon and early evening’s worth of posts that I was not here for. So I’m just playing catch up, as it were.

  75. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    WCYF -

    Yup.

    I loved Sheffield when he was a Yankee. He was one of my favorite players. I loved his presence in the lineup, and I thought that he was very well behaved (until the very end, of course).

    As long as Soriano does the job and does not rock the boat too much, he can be as idiosyncratic as he needs to be. LOL

  76. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    “Trisha

    If a catchers main job is defense, not offense then how did Jorge Posada have the job for 13 years?”

    LGY – because Posada was a known aberration. A catcher who had great offensive skills. And in his prime, he also had great defensive skills.

  77. blake March 26th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Patrick,

    I know what the numbers are….just curious how he’ll respond with the amount of playing time he will get, which really shouldn’t be much if everyone is healthy. I don’t think they need platoons very often.

  78. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Trisha-

    I will always defer to someone with superior knowledge or experience.

    I was just wondering what they saw that I didn’t ?

    I watched Montero in action this Spring and from my untutored eye he looked generally Ok to me.

    I don’t ever expect him to be great.

    If he needs more time I am fine with that but I was just wondering what specifically he lacks at this point.

    I didn’t see much but hey what do I know ?

    :)

  79. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Trisha,

    I usually agree with you, but I don’t agree that if Montero comes up, he goes back down when Cervelli comes back. I think that once Montero comes up, he stays up. That’s why I don’t think he’ll be coming up now. I expect that the Yanks will take Molina up until Cervelli comes back.

    Whoever comes up as the BUC is fine with me. We are talking about a back-up.

  80. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    the thing about Montero’s bat, as I understand it, is that as a catcher specifically that bat becomes even more important. Most catchers are not great offensive players. It gives the Yankees a positional advantage to have a catcher who can hit. All he ever has to be is average behind the plate.

    Posada was average or just below defensively, but gave them such a great advantage overall.

    I understand you love defense. And I’m not trying to change your mind or convince you. Just sayin’ friendly-like. :)

  81. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    “If they were only going to take Montero up until Cervelli rehabbed, I’d rather they didn’t do it at all. I think when Montero does come up, it has to be for good.”

    Doreen, I’m thinking that’s what they might essentially be saying. Again, two major league-ready catchers may be a lot more important to the Yanks with their rotation in flux. I can’t emphasize that enough. I said earlier today that if the rotation were CC, Felix, Doc, Tim Lincecum, and one other of your choice, I don’t think we’d even be having this discussion.

    But it isn’t.

  82. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    trisha

    Those 23 career games for Molina none of which are with the Yanks is so much experience

  83. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Gustavo Molina has played 23 games in the majors and thrown out 0% of runners and hits under .150.

    Doesn’t scream reliable backup, the reason he is getting the nod (most likely) is because it will be easy to throw him away when Cervelli comes back and they werent going to waste a 40 man spot for Romine to play for 2 to 4 weeks.

  84. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Posada never had great d skills

    that is just not true

  85. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    “I usually agree with you, but I don’t agree that if Montero comes up, he goes back down when Cervelli comes back. I think that once Montero comes up, he stays up. That’s why I don’t think he’ll be coming up now. I expect that the Yanks will take Molina up until Cervelli comes back.”

    Fran, that was really a default position because I didn’t think Montero was going north. When Cervelli got hurt everyone seemed to think that sealed if for Montero. So I was more saying that I still thought Montero would have been a default since I believed Cervelli would be back once he rehabbed. I think it makes nothing but sense to have him come up when it’s going to be close to for good – September callups, then next year? The year after? But I am fine with it being in one feld swoop.

    So we still agree.

    :)

  86. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Dloreen – Posada was a great defensive catcher when he had all his stuff going, before injuries, etc. Posada had what is unusual for most starting catchers – top-notch offense AND defense.

    Remember, too though he didn’t start out as a catcher. He played the majority of his ball, college and otherwise until he hit the minors, as an infielder.

  87. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Trisha,

    I am glad we still agree :)

  88. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Now now with a lot of people seeking out my opinion, give me time to read the posts! You know how difficult it is for me to get to every post!

    :)

    jerk, sorry. You are right it is 23 games. I was looking at the “162 game average” under the 23 games.

    23 is better than 0 games.

  89. 38HotDogs March 26th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    If defense is the criteria for backup catcher than why is it that the position is a place holder for Cervelli who was brutal defensively last year? If defense is the key, I think Romine should have the inside track to the position but he is not even mentioned

  90. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    This seems simple to me:

    1. The Yankees don’t care about Molina’s hitting and rightly so. He is a seasoned pro that will add stability behind the plate. We have plenty of hitting.

    2. When Cervelli returns he will be the backup catcher to Russell Martin.

    3. Should any further injuries happen to Russell or Martin, we will have Molina, Montero and Romine to choose from.

    4. There is no rush to push Montero up a level. He will benefit more by playing every day. He has room for improvement, especially defensively. He isn’t ready – he doesn’t need the pressure – you don’t set a young catcher up to fail.

  91. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Fran, absolutely. I would be stunned to find an instance where we didn’t.

    :)

  92. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    correction – to Martin or Cervelli.

  93. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    “There is no rush to push Montero up a level. He will benefit more by playing every day. He has room for improvement, especially defensively. He isn’t ready – he doesn’t need the pressure – you don’t set a young catcher up to fail.”

    For me, at least, this says it all.

  94. GreenBeret7 March 26th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Former Orioles minor league pitcher’s other job.

    http://www.longislandpress.com.....n-5-weeks/

  95. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Top notch defense from Po?

    what am I missing here?

  96. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Molina is seasoned I guess if you mean he has played 11 really bad seasons in the minors.

  97. LGY March 26th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Molina is a seasoned pro?

    He has 23 major league games!

    What is going on in here???

  98. mick March 26th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Does anyone know how Fla lost that game?
    Last shot in reg. was stupid.

  99. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    “If defense is the criteria for backup catcher than why is it that the position is a place holder for Cervelli who was brutal defensively last year? If defense is the key, I think Romine should have the inside track to the position but he is not even mentioned”

    Again, I am looking at this particular snapshot in time with a rotation in flux. Cervelli has caught the majority of the rotation.

    If we had a solid All Star rotation, 1-5, it is my true belief this discussion would not even be happening.

    JMO

  100. Patrick March 26th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    I think the key with Montero is that he develops his defense so that it’s “good enough”. In other words, if he can just get by defensively that’s all that matters. The key to a lot of the Yankee success in the 90′s was building the team strong up the middle. Guys like Jeter, Bernie, Posada weren’t very strong defensively but their offense more than made up for it. They got the job done (barely at times) but because offense is so scarce at the positions they played it gave the Yankees a gigantic advantage.

    Montero will never be a good defensive catcher but if he can get to the point where he is not embarrassing himself, that’s good enough for me and probably good enough for the Yankees.

    I think the Yankees decided that his defense wasn’t at that point yet and although his bat is ready for the majors it can’t hurt for him to stay in AAA for a few more months.

  101. mick March 26th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    so much for Az and derrick williams hype

  102. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    WCYF,

    I agree with all of the points in your 7:53 post.

  103. mick March 26th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    UConn-KY or NC should be great semi-final

  104. mick March 26th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Knicks just can’t play 48 minutes, simple as that.

  105. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    If we had a solid All Star rotation, 1-5, it is my true belief this discussion would not even be happening.
    ===============
    Once the season starts none of this convo will be happening.

  106. 108 stitches March 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    SOS to Chad Moeller ! ………… SOS to Chad Moeller !

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Molina is seasoned as in experienced. He’s caught a long time. Again, we are talking about a stop-gap replacement for maybe three weeks. And Montero and Romine get to continue developing without the pressure of playing in New York.

  108. Giuseppe Franco March 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Yeah, I must chuckle when people attempt to point out Molina’s “experience” and “stability” behind the plate.

    The guy has had 49 career ABs in the major leagues.

  109. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Can someone translate what Calhoun said.

  110. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    If Montero is tearing it up at SWB and Cervelli is doing a poor job; bring him up in two months. I truly do not understand the urgency.

  111. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    3. Should any further injuries happen to Russell or Martin, we will have Molina, Montero and Romine to choose from.
    =================
    Also if Russell and Martin , even Russell Martin, goes down Montero will be back on the radar esp if he is lighting it up on the farm.

  112. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    I was looking for some specifics on the current weaknesses in Montero’s defensive game but all I hear are generalities so I’ll just leave it at that.

    People in the know say he is not “ready”.

    Exactly what do they mean ?

    I must have missed the problems.

    In no way did I see Jesus embarass himself.

    Actually, I thought he did quite well in general.

    Looking to be enlightened, and to know what to look for next time around.

  113. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Can someone translate what Calhoun said.
    =============
    something about pawking the caw

  114. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Man Knicks are pathetic, they don’t even play 1/2 a game, disgraceful blaming it on not practicing….PRACTICE, what do you mean PRACTICE!!

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    On the phone with my beautiful four-year-old niece Isabella. So I will be back to this rivetting discussion soon.

  116. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Molina is seasoned as in experienced.
    =======================
    Damn why not get a real Molina?

  117. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    MTU,

    I agree with you…he doesn’t look embarrassing or anything back there. He does need to work on some things…..game calling, staying low both setting up and coming up to throw, hands need to be softer framing pitches, more consistency blocking balls….pretty much the basics that catchers do. Hes still just rough around the edges….but he’s not a disaster by any stretch from what I’ve seen

  118. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Montero threw out 44% of runners in spring. He has to be doing something right :) The Yankees are just risk averse when it comes to rookie position players. The only way guys can break in is through veterans absolutely dropping the ball. Cervelli came up only because of injuries to every catcher ahead of him. Cano only played because Tony Womack was Woeful. Melky only played because of injury and ineffectiveness of the guys trying to play CF at the time. Gardner came up because Melky was woeful.

    I can’t think of a time when a rookie legitimately broke camp with the yankees. The Yankees will always bring in guys that have to fail before a rookie gets a shot.

  119. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    A real Molina would cost too much, I get that. Cervelli is better, make that more cost efficient , than a real Molina. Besides Montero is the BUC in waiting. When he comes up there will be clamor for him to play everyday. Back up, he’s no stinkin back up.

  120. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Posada may have been very good defensively at one point, but I don’t think he was ever great defensively. All around, that is.

    Molina is not there because of his experience; he is there because he has some experience and is expendable – his does not figure in any of the Yankees’ long-term plans. He is there because they don’t want to rush players that they are counting on long-term. I understand the question about how careful should they be? But I’d err on the side of giving them (Montero/Romine) a bit more time. In the long run it should benefit all parties involved.

    Montero’s quote the other day seemed to indicate he was ready for whatever decision they make and he didn’t seem to have any problem with not being on the team out of ST. That leads me to believe that they have been upfront with him, and he is aware of whatever hesitation they may have, and what areas they might need him to work on.

  121. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I think Jesus is ready right now to play catcher in the majors without embarrassment. Remember this is a position staffed by Jason Varitek, Jorge Posada, Ryan Doumit, etc. But just because he is ready does not mean the Yankees have to bring him up. I really doubt 30 PA negated all of Montero’s minor league experience. The Yankees are just acting like they always have, placing barriers to entry infront of their rookie players, forcing them to play to their maximum potential or to have injury / terribleness occur infront of them before giving em a shot.

  122. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Molina is here because he is a throwaway on the 40 man

  123. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    “I think the key with Montero is that he develops his defense so that it’s “good enough”. In other words, if he can just get by defensively that’s all that matters. The key to a lot of the Yankee success in the 90?s was building the team strong up the middle. Guys like Jeter, Bernie, Posada weren’t very strong defensively but their offense more than made up for it. They got the job done (barely at times) but because offense is so scarce at the positions they played it gave the Yankees a gigantic advantage.

    Montero will never be a good defensive catcher but if he can get to the point where he is not embarrassing himself, that’s good enough for me and probably good enough for the Yankees.

    I think the Yankees decided that his defense wasn’t at that point yet and although his bat is ready for the majors it can’t hurt for him to stay in AAA for a few more months.”

    Wow Patrick. This is so right on and it could bring tears to my eyes in terms of an understanding of the situation.

    Good on ya. (I wasn’t really getting teary. But definitely a knock out punch here.)

  124. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Being honest, I thought for sure the Yankees would take Montero North when Cervy went down.

    My take was that they would give him a try and see what he would do in actual real world conditions.

    I would have thought that the worst case was that he confirmed the suspicion that he wasn’t ready and in the best case he shows that he can stick.

    It’s hard to believe that would have been so damaging either to him or to the team.

    But I must be wrong on both accounts or they would just do it.

  125. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    The Yankees are just acting like they always have, placing barriers to entry infront of their rookie players, forcing them to play to their maximum potential or to have injury / terribleness occur infront of them before giving em a shot.
    ==========================
    You mean they are babying him?

  126. Tom in N.J. March 26th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Cashman picked a faux Molina because he was sent an email showing how real Molina’s are made.

  127. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Being honest, I thought for sure the Yankees would take Montero North when Cervy went down.
    =====================
    Someone threw out the word regression but it could be part financial, part logistics (40 man roster issue).

  128. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Molina is such a zero all around that I can’t believe he is being considered for the BUC. If they really thought he was going to stick on the roster at some point they should have dumped him for someone better.

    Chad Moeller is available, he knows our system and is much better. I wonder why they haven’t gone after him?

    He has all the benefits of Molina (no long term commitment, easy to get rid of) and far less weaknesses (better with the bat, more major league experience, more yankee experience)

  129. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    And it must be underscored that no decision has been made as yet. Or announced at any rate.

  130. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    This Molina is rumored to be a cousin, is that faux?

  131. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    “Damn why not get a real Molina?”

    :)

    I yearn for a real Molina, but I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Maybe it will sail by again.

    As a defense groupie, I just about lost my breath watching Molina behind the dish. And since my eyes were almost glazed over with the offense of the 2009 Yankees, I never got the surly disposition of the posters who wanted him sent out of town on a rail because he couldn’t hit. He couldn’t hit. Big flippin’ whoop. Everyone else could. I guess you were happier seeing a merry go round of hitters whenever we played a speedy team, as long as our catcher could hit!

    :roll:

  132. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    And it must be underscored that no decision has been made as yet. Or announced at any rate.
    ===============
    What a bombshell that would be, even I would love it.

  133. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Face…..Montero is not ready and that’s plain and simple…..

  134. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    I yearn for a real Molina, but I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Maybe it will sail by again.

    As a defense groupie, I just about lost my breath watching Molina behind the dish.
    ===========================
    Not to defame the Molina name but wasn’t Jose losing it a little behind the dish?

  135. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    In 2009, Jose Molina regressed behind the plate. He did not have a good defensive year. He was overweight, even for him.

    He had lost his dad, and I think that season was just a lost one for him.

  136. MTU March 26th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Everybody have good night.

    See you all tomorrow.

    :)

  137. Nat March 26th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    A-Rod, Yankees invite 12-year-old girl who saved friend from drowning to game

    http://www.google.com/hostedne.....Id=6376536

  138. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    You mean they are babying him?

    Definitely. I think other organizations without the pressure to win that the Yankees have would be throwing Montero out there either as a split time catcher or the starter. Its fine, before Cervelli got injured I thought Montero would have to play very good in Spring to unseat Cervo for the backup spot (and I did think he would hit good enough to do so) but it was always likely for cervelli to start the season on the team as the backup. The only surprise is the sudden chance in stance from when cervelli got hurt to now, and the lack of a better option for the short term.

    Gustavo Molina is just so bad. I don’t think its ever right to willingly play someone so bad (injuries can conspire to force that issue , but there are catchers out there now who are better)

  139. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Can the Knicks lose every remaining game and still make the playoffs?
    Is that allowed?

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    jerkface, as Doreen has said, no decision has been made yet. It might surprise us all and Montero could be the choice. (I would still think it was not good for the kid but would readily admit I know less than the people who made the decision.)

    What they didn’t go after Moeller – well here’s why. They were probably banking on Cervelli going north, and all was going to be hunky dory.

    By the way, where is Moeller? Is he still with the Ys in any capacity? I also thought he was a lot more than serviceable!

  141. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Baby as in Joba?

  142. 38HotDogs March 26th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    I’m with you Trisha, I was one of the probably 2 people in the world that owned a Jose Molina player T-Shirt. Loved the gun – and he had a few clutch hits in his time

  143. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Montero is not ready and that’s plain and simple…..

    I disagree, and stamping ones feet and saying it over and over again isn’t really going to change my mind. He is ready in the sense that he can play in the majors right now, it doesn’t mean he is a finished product or anything, but he hasn’t shown me anything different than what I’ve seen from below average to average catchers in the majors.

    As I’ve said, not bringing Montero north does not mean he isn’t ready for it, there can be many other reasons for not taking him.

  144. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    “Can the Knicks lose every remaining game and still make the playoffs?
    Is that allowed?”

    :lol:

    mick, you’ve have been quite humorous these last few days. As someone who loves to laugh, I would ask you to keep up the good work. Otherwise my only other source of real humor will have to remain the Sux! THEY are a riot!!!

  145. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Molina had the same problem Cervelli did in 2010. He got exposed playing every day. He was an excellent backup who could surprise with the bat at times but was mostly there to park his butt behind the plate.

    Once Cervelli looked to be about as good and 1/10th the cost, his ticket got punched, but I would never begrudge Jose for the work he did for the Yankees.

    Moeller was signed by the Rockies but got Cut in early march, which is why I am surprised they did not bring him back. The Yankees always go for guys they are familiar with.

  146. Tom in N.J. March 26th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    How is Montero not ready? What aspects of catching does he need to work on?

  147. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    mick, you’ve have been quite humorous these last few days.
    ======================
    I am looking to capture the throne from NIck. :)

  148. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    The pampering could also be the result of being afraid if he does crap his pants and they send him down, he is down for the season.

  149. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Scouts have always said Montero is terrible and won’t catch, but Pilierie has said he will and has looked ok last year in AAA. Girardi himself said Montero made huge improvements. Cashman said Montero caught up to Romine. And yet everyone says Romine can catch in the majors now, but suddenly Montero can’t?

    I don’t buy it. There are more reasons than simple defense as to why Montero would not break with the team.

    Financial, 40 man, play time, wanting to ease him in at a later point, waiting 20 days for an extra free agency year, not liking his rhythm at the plate, maybe giving him time to focus on his offense outside of new york, etc.

  150. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    It certainly will be a bummer the days the faux Molina is behind the plate.

  151. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Tricia….Yes Mick has been on quite the roll as of late…….Between he & Nick in SF this season will not be lacking in humor……….I was just informed that I will sitting 6 rows up behind the plate on Friday September 22nd vs The BoSox ……

  152. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I was just informed that I will sitting 6 rows up behind the plate on Friday September 22nd vs The BoSox ……
    ===============
    Pat M

    You will be alone as that is an off day.

  153. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Pat M -

    Nice!!!

  154. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    .Between he & Nick in SF this season will not be lacking in humor…
    =========================
    Nah. My game face goes on in season.

  155. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    It certainly will be a bummer the days the faux Molina is behind the plate.

    **************

    If he calls a good game and the Yankees win you won’t even give it a second thought. If this team is hurt by Molina catching for three weeks at the start of the season — we have far bigger problems to worry about.

  156. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    I just live to make people laugh…

  157. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    JN: With Montero, obviously the questions are with his defense. I know the Yankees believe he can catch right now. How far does the organization believe he has to go before its certain he can catch long-term.

    BC: We believe he can catch, and we believe he can catch long-term.

    JN: What are you and the organization seeing, then, that perhaps other organizations are missing when it comes to Montero’s defensive abilities?

    BC: He’s come a long way. The defensive side is something he’s had to work on a long time. I’d liken it separately to a guy like Wade Boggs, who came through the farm system of the Red Sox, always hit, but people said he can’t play defense. He ultimately turned himself into a perennial Gold Glove-winning third baseman.

    Hard work can close the gap on deficiencies. Derek Jeter made 56 errors in the South Atlantic League. … The minor leagues is (where you) work out your problems, and he’s certainly closing the gap. He’s not there yet, but he’s pretty damn close. We believe he’s better than some starting catchers, defensively, in the big leagues right now.

    -

    This from an interview with Cashman in Jan 2009.

  158. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    f he calls a good game and the Yankees win you won’t even give it a second thought.
    ===============
    true but like moeller, molina and cervelli before, we like our catchers to hit.

  159. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    whats the point blake?

  160. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    If they win it wont be because of Molina, and the rest of the unit will have to work harder to make up for it. There certainly wont be any late inning Molina heroics to crow about. And I don’t know why anyone would want to ACCEPT such a poor player simply because the yankees overall have a good team.

    He brings nothing to the table. ‘Calls a good game’ is code word for: adds nothing of value

  161. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    In 2009 Montero was better than some catchers in the majors. Now he isnt good enough to backup??? There is more to it than his defense as to why he isnt breaking camp.

  162. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    “I’m with you Trisha, I was one of the probably 2 people in the world that owned a Jose Molina player T-Shirt. Loved the gun – and he had a few clutch hits in his time”

    Dog 38, I just wrote you a post and somehow lost it. Bear with me while I find where it disappeared to!

  163. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    It will be interesting to see what they do if Martin goes down early on.
    Good chance it could happen.

  164. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Plus you just know there is going to be a game where Molina keeps coming up with RISP and failing. That is going to suck, even if it matters little in the long run.

  165. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    mick….That’s my travel day…….Pain meds mess with my head at times…..

  166. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Plus you just know there is going to be a game where Molina keeps coming up with RISP and failing. That is going to suck, even if it matters little in the long run.
    ———————–
    what if he had to catch for a week, all hell will break loose.
    Call for Chad Moeller, chad moeller you are wanted in the main ballpark.

  167. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Sorry that was actually from Jan 2011.

    Mick, whats the point of asking me what the point is….its something to read from a cashman interview.

  168. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    .Pain meds mess with my head at times…..
    =============================
    stay out of here maybe you won’t need em :)

  169. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    blake, you questioned it before thought you were revisiting.

  170. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    I want the Mole-Man!

  171. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    I want the Mole-Man!
    =================
    u got em

  172. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Face…..I wouldn’t be shocked if Austin gets the assignment

  173. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    “I’m with you Trisha, I was one of the probably 2 people in the world that owned a Jose Molina player T-Shirt. Loved the gun – and he had a few clutch hits in his time”

    38Dogs, well I will reconstruct. One of my most wonderful memories and one that will last me a lifetime was going to the final game at the old Stadium. I was not able to sit in the seats we had because unbeknownst to me they were high up and I have a serious problem with heights. I was able to find a guy to switch with and for the first time in my life I sat in the bleachers at Yankee Stadium. I was in the front row, with the Yankees dugout to my immediate left. Since it was the last game the ushers were really good about letting us hang over the wall, etc. so I was able to stand and watch, at most 10 feet away, Mo warm up. Seriously it was an out-of-body experience. I also got to see Phil Coke warm up – he was the bomb at the time anyway, and I got to see Joba in the pen. It was awesome.

    But what warmed my heart the most was watching Jose hit the last homer ever out of Yankee Stadium. The ball landed somewhere near where I was standing. What a beautiful way to end a pretty noteworthy stay with the Yankees.

  174. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Jerkface it’s for three weeks – if it happens. Last year we had to deal with Peña at the plate.

  175. Tar March 26th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Jerk

    If I am not mistaken you were all for Nunez staying inAAA in order to get regular playing time. I think it’s even more important for Jesus to catch every day.

    It seems the pitching staff is real comfortable throwing to Martin, Montero was just not going to get enough innings to work on his D .

    And I am sure if his return allows him to retain another year of Arbitration it will be just a coincidence. :D

  176. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    I agree with Pat M. It hasn’t been announced yet. Maybe they will surprise everyone.

  177. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Um, this was pretty interesting to read about the Marlins looking for a 3B, and Chavez’ name is mentioned.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors

  178. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Jerkface it’s for three weeks
    —————————–
    you can lose many games in 3 weeks.

  179. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Sorry -

    Here it is:

    “Matt Dominguez is the third baseman of the future for the Florida Marlins but it appears the club is not sold that his future will start right now. So, the club could be out looking for veteran help at the position, and ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark notes Wednesday that names such as Garret Atkins, Eric Chavez, Pedro Feliz and Felipe Lopez could be considered.”

    And then this:

    “Jayson Stark
    Chavez may not be the answer
    “Scout on Eric Chavez: “Looks like he’s going to make that club, but I’m not sure why. He just can’t move anymore. He gives you all he’s got, but his body is too broken down to allow him to give a whole lot.””

    What’s that all about??? Chavez is on the Yankees, is going to make the team, and doesn’t look all that broken down to me.

  180. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    http://books.google.com/books?.....38;f=false

    Article from the 50s or whenever about stats in baseball. First line is: “Baseball people are generally allergic to new ideas”

    The more things change the more they stay the same :)

  181. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    For Jose Molina, the catcher, the unselfish player, the guy the rotation loved to pitch to, a guy who could gun them down and get some respect from the other teams because of it, the kind of guy you’re always rooting for, thank you for making the New York Yankees a better team with your presence.

    Wish we still had you.

    ♥ ♥ ♥

  182. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    If they choose Romine then they’ll have to burn one of his options and he has his defensive issues as well. He has softer hands and is a more natural receiver but just today he whiffed on a fastball and was fortunate to throw the guy out at 3rd in the first inning……plus his bat isn’t nearly as ready as Montero’s is.

  183. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Gallinari’s body language is forlorn, he must go.

  184. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    “Jayson Stark
    Chavez may not be the answer
    “Scout on Eric Chavez: “Looks like he’s going to make that club, but I’m not sure why. He just can’t move anymore. He gives you all he’s got, but his body is too broken down to allow him to give a whole lot.””

    -
    another contestant on “Anonymous scouts say the dumbest things” what has this guy been watching this spring.

  185. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    “stay out of here maybe you won’t need em :)

    :lol:

    The mick is officially out of control!

    Keep it going mick!!!

  186. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    When Moeller was here, everyone wanted him gone. :roll:

  187. Keith--FL March 26th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Chad…great job this spring training…..your writing and updates were perfect!!!!
    Go Yankees!!!

  188. blake March 26th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Tar,

    Thoughts on the Kentucky matchup? I think the Heels probably match up better with Kentucky than with the Buckeyes but the thought of potentially losing to Calipari almost makes me feel ill….hopefully that won’t be the case :)

  189. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    The mick is officially out of control!

    Keep it going mick!!!
    ==================
    Go get the Betsy!!!

  190. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    If I am not mistaken you were all for Nunez staying inAAA in order to get regular playing time. I think it’s even more important for Jesus to catch every day.

    There is a difference. The backup catcher or lets just say the two catcher positions can be expected to play a certain amount of time that is FAR greater than a utility infielder who can only backup 2 spots. With Chavez (great pickup) on the team Nuny is only going to be able to spell Jetey and Canoy, and as I’ve said there just arent many games or PA there. Backup catcher, though, is nearly guaranteed to play 40 games at catcher for the yankees. They havent had a 140 game catcher in a while and I dont think they are going to start with Martin because of his injuries. Additionally, if Jesus is as good with the bat as he can be, and the yankees have patience with him, they could give him extra starts. Not to mention, he is a good candidate for DH.

    The Yankees are only going to play Nunez to rest Jeter and Cano, but the same doesnt hold true for Montero.

    I felt like they could have given Jesus enough PA to make it worth while. 350-400, WITHOUT injury. Throw in a little ineffectiveness from MArtin or Posada, a little injury, and he may have a month where he plays almost every day.

    By choosing Molina as the backup it almost forces the Yankees to run down Martin until Cervelli comes back.

  191. Ed H. March 26th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    I’m really curious about what Yogi’s input was in the discussions about whether to bring Montero to NY or to send him to AAA to refine his catching. Yogi was 21 when he was brought to the majors, a prodigy at the plate but deficient behind it. He took a lot of heat and was under a tremendous amount of pressure as he learned the position from Bill Dickey, who was brought in especially to “learn me his experiences,” as Yogi put it. One of the reasons why I admire Yogi is that he didn’t cave from the withering criticism he was subjected to at such a young age. My bet is that Yogi was strongly in favor or polishing Montero’s catching skills at AAA, but who knows?

  192. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    When Moeller was here, everyone wanted him gone.

    You dont know what you’ve had until its gone :)

  193. Joe from Long Island March 26th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    That scout must have been watching another Chavez, because that description does not match the Eric Chavez in Yankee camp. Either that, or Stark is blowing hot air.

  194. Doreen March 26th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    blake -

    Not the Yankees, that’s for certain. :?

  195. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Stark must have been looking into his crystal ball, he might be right eventually.

  196. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    blake……..Heels will smack Kentucky and that NCAA program violator all over the court next weekend …..They should be at least a 3 point favorite……..Zona getting their mojo going…

  197. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    derrick williams vs kemba walker for player of the year, whattagame

  198. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Of course its really just about marginal improvements, if there were a better option than Moeller out there I’d want him instead. But right now Moeller is looking like a better option than Gustavo. Gustavo I’d suggest playing 1 or 2 times until Cervelli gets back, hoping Martin is as much a horse as he was in LA and banking on off days and resting him during blowouts.

    Moeller I’d be more willing to catch once a week.

  199. mick March 26th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    ..Heels will smack Kentucky and that NCAA program violator all over the court next weekend
    =============
    Pat M…game is tomorrow :)

  200. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    If Chavez were available, Stark would be the first one lining up to try and get the Phillies after him.

  201. 38HotDogs March 26th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Love the story Trisha!!! I will always picture Jose crouching behind the plate with his toque (my Canadian roots showing through) under his mask on cold Bronx night,
    waiting to gun down the next base runner. Not sure why I took such a shining to him, maybe it was because I was a slow, light hitting catcher growing up

  202. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    mick…….meds…..Cannot multi task

  203. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    mick – do you really think if Molina was the “backup” to Russell that we would lose a lot of games in 3 weeks because of him?

  204. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    mick…….meds…..Cannot multi task
    =========================
    pat just dont want you to miss the game, i know you have money on it

  205. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    mick – do you really think if Molina was the “backup” to Russell that we would lose a lot of games in 3 weeks because of him?
    =========
    not because of him but he will somehow get the blame

  206. randy l. March 26th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    ” Remember this is a position staffed by Jason Varitek, Jorge Posada,…”

    jerkface-

    you are a real moron sometimes.

    people like you who disrespect players like varitek and posada are a joke.

    get a life.

  207. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    perception is reality

  208. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    do you really think if Molina was the “backup” to Russell that we would lose a lot of games in 3 weeks because of him?

    Depends on how many games he plays. And things dont happen in a vacuum. If Girardi plays Martin more because the backup stinks, maybe Martin doesnt play up to his potential and that causes more losses.

  209. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    you are a real moron sometimes.
    =====================
    sometimes?

  210. Tar March 26th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Jerk

    I think you are over estimating his playing time. I can see the whole infield rotating through the DH spot. Not so much a rookie.

    Also catching once a week is not enough for him to improve his D.

    Blake

    I agree, better matchup. Don’t worry the only who is going to be Ill is Ashley Judd. I feel beter now about our chances then I did last week.they get better with each game played.

  211. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Disrespecting Varitek and Posada? Not following. Aren’t you the one that said the Yankees should be running on Varitek every time up?

    Posada is a hall of famer, doesn’t mean he was an excellent catcher. He had a great bat and passable defense. No knock, simple facts.

    Varitek and Posada aren’t a (real) molina, or ivan rodriguez.

  212. Tom in N.J. March 26th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Poor Ryan Doumit.

  213. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    I think you are over estimating his playing time. I can see the whole infield rotating through the DH spot. Not so much a rookie.

    Also catching once a week is not enough for him to improve his D.

    You’re underestimating it. The entire infield isnt going to rotate through DH. Look at how many times guys DHed last year. There isn’t a lot of play time for Nunez.

    Now if Nunez is fantastic, maybe the strategy shifts, but right now? He is going to get like 150-200 PA.

    Montero would get far more. Catch 2 to 3 times a week. DH some. Pinch hit.

  214. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Just because Piliere thinks Montero is good enough right now, doesn’t make it so – he’ s not infallible. I just don’t see the necessity to rush the kid – I’m sure the Yankees wanted Montero to win the BUC, but he hasn’t. Given the great strides their farm has made and how many kids have helped us in the last few years, I think I’ll trust their evaluation.

    I’m also not going to judge Andruw Jones right now……….

    Go UConn! They’re a great story – I’m rooting for them and Butler

  215. West Coast Yankee Fan March 26th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Depends on how many games he plays. And things dont happen in a vacuum. If Girardi plays Martin more because the backup stinks, maybe Martin doesnt play up to his potential and that causes more losses.

    ****************

    (Cut to Aflac duck in Yogi commercial) Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa????????????

  216. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Variteks entire career is predicated on ‘calling a good game’, which is like when the best thing you can say about a hitter is that he ‘knows how to get a guy over’.

  217. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Just because Piliere thinks Montero is good enough right now, doesn’t make it so – he’ s not infallible

    Neither are the ones who disagree with him.

  218. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Varitek has never even thrown out 30% of runners, ever. Led the league in passed balls twice too.

  219. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    I guess he was good by bullpen catcher standards???

  220. Betsy March 26th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Ok Jerkface, but the Yankees are the ones making the decisions based on a whole lot of evaluating they’ve done……………I have no problem at all Montero not making the team out of camp.

  221. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Face….I always thought Posada was better than average with the leather…..I will say he wasn’t the same guy after the collision at the plate…..Tin Cup, you hit the links with you’re upgraded sticks ????

  222. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Ok Jerkface, but the Yankees are the ones making the decisions based on a whole lot of evaluating they’ve done

    The yankees decisions are made on more than defense.

  223. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Look , if Martin went down for 2 months you would see Montero up here the day after his arb deadline. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be a good thing to spend that month in AAA.

  224. trisha - true pinstriped blue March 26th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    “Pat M

    You will be alone as that is an off day.”

    Just saw this one. I practically cried laughing over that one!!!!!

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!

  225. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Look , if Martin went down for 2 months you would see Montero up here the day after his arb deadline.

    Free agency deadline.

  226. mick March 26th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    these college games are just ridiculous
    best sporting event in America.

  227. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Wild finish.

    Congratulations to UConn

  228. Jerkface March 26th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    If Martin goes down I think the Yankees would probably sign Bengie Molina.

  229. Pat M. March 26th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Not sure why all the 3 point shots ??? Well they coverd for me at anyrate

  230. Fran the original March 26th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    New post :arrow:

  231. randy l. March 26th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    pat m-

    tuned up sticks are much better. the lie angle was two degrees flat on all clubs too which tended to make balls go to the right. having your loft and lie angles checked is really important. spine-ing the clubs puts the spine that’s on all metal shafts in the right place for the ball flight you want. the usga made spine-ing illegal for a long time before relenting because everyone on tour was doing it anyway.

    how’s all your bionic parts coming along. back playing?

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