Yankees spring leaders
First, a reminder: Don’t forget we’re having a chat today at 1 p.m.
Tomorrow at 1:05 p.m., Alex Rodriguez goes back at zero. But for now, his numbers are eye opening. This spring, Rodriguez led the Yankees with 19 hits, six home runs, 15 RBI, 44 total bases and an .898 slugging percentage.
By the way, next closest in total bases had 31.
“Alex’s spring was unbelievable,” Joe Girardi said. “There’s really no other way to describe it. The power that he displayed and how hard he hit the ball on a consistent basis, are you surprised? I don’t know if you’re surprised, but to see a guy locked in from Day 1 sometimes is kind of different to see.”
Here are some of the other spring training leaders for the Yankees.
Games
Eduardo Nunez, 25
In this case, the significance of games played had little to do with durability and everything to do with exposure. Utility infielder was one of the few spots truly up for grabs, and Nunez and Ramiro Pena seemed to come to camp on equal ground. The Yankees had seen more of Pena the past two years, but they got a long look at Nunez this spring, and he was impressive. His numbers fell off a little in the end, but he showed his speed and ability to drive the ball. By the way, the leader in at-bats was Nick Swisher, who had two more than Nunez and three more than Derek Jeter.
Doubles
Mark Teixeira, 9
Occasionally overshadowed by Rodriguez’s spring, Teixeira’s performance in Florida was also impressive. He hit .294/.410/.569, giving the Yankees reason to think he could get off to a strong start this season and put his years of slow Aprils behind him. Second in doubles — no surprise — was Rodriguez. Third was Brett Gardner, who drove the ball pretty well with his new two-handed approach.
Walks
Brett Gardner and Jorge Posada, 9
For Gardner, the walks were a sign that his plate discipline hasn’t changed since last season. He broke camp with a .373 on-base percentage. For Posada, the walks were one positive in an otherwise pedestrian spring. Trying to adjust to pinch hitting five times a game — that’s how he described being a DH — Posada didn’t put up huge spring numbers. He hit just .217 with one home run, but he did have a .357 on-base.
ERA
Ivan Nova, 1.80 (for those with more than 12 innings)
Luis Ayala, 0.79 (for those with more than five innings)
Mariano Rivera, 0.00 (for anyone)
Rivera pitched five innings and allowed three base runners. Then again, he didn’t have much to prove. Nova needed a strong spring to assure himself a spot in the rotation, and he did that with a terrific showing in Florida. He was the only Yankees pitcher with two wins. As for Ayala, he was a fairly anonymous non-roster pitcher, but he put himself on the map with a great spring. He had nine strikeouts and no walks, and he led the team in appearances and saves.
Strikeouts
Bartolo Colon, 17
At one point there was a press box debate about which was more shocking: The fact Gustavo Molina was in line for a roster spot, or the fact Colon was in line for a roster spot. At 37 years old, and after a year and a half out of big leagues, Colon seemed like the longest of long shots. A lot of guys put up good winter numbers and can’t carry them into spring training, but Colon proved that his winter numbers were legitimate. He was one of the best pitchers in camp, and he rightfully won a spot on the Yankees staff.
Walks per nine innings
A.J. Burnett, 0
Nine pitchers appeared in big league camp without allowing a walk. Burnett was the only one who made all of his appearances as a starter. Control was a definite plus for Burnett. He’s not going to make it through a season without walking anyone, but he never got out of control and stayed out of control this spring. Pitch-by-pitch, when he made a mistake, he was able to correct it.
A few others
Offensive (at least 20 at-bats)
Runs: Curtis Granderson, 11
Strikeouts: Justin Maxwell and Nick Swisher, 12
Stolen bases: Eduardo Nunez, 6
Caught stealing: Melky Mesa, 4
Triples: Curtis Granderson, 3
Average: Jorge Vazquez, .412
On-base: Alex Rodriguez and Jorge Vazquez, .444
Pitching (at least seven innings)
Saves: Luis Ayala, 3
Innings: Phil Hughes, 22
Hit batters: Ivan Nova, 3
Walks: Manny Banuelos, 8
Ground outs: Ivan Nova, 35
WHIP: A.J. Burnett and Bartolo Colon, 0.69
Strikeouts per nine: Dave Robertson, 17.18
Associated Press photos of Rodriguez and Nova



Ever listen to Steve Forbert, Chad?
Reminds me a little of Ryan Adams.
As much as I like to tweak the Lodudders, I am impressed and gratified the timelesssness of Mariano Rivera has been seemingly accepted en masse around here.
One of my first experiences here a couple of years ago were people concerned about this age/health, counting down every tick of the clock.
Perhaps it still exists, but I rarely see it expressed anymore.
This was actually the worst ST, statistically speaking, Tex has had as a Yankee.
The 25-man rosters need to be set by tomorrow for each team.
murphydog – thanks for that link to The Church of Baseball. Perfect for today (or anyday, for that matter).
“This was actually the worst ST, statistically speaking, Tex has had as a Yankee.”
Not sure if that is scary, or appealing in an inverse voodoo sort of way…
from the SF chronicle: (interesting they refer to giambi as ‘former ny yankee’ first, not ‘former a’)
oops:Jason Giambi, the former New York Yankees and Oakland Athletics slugger, testified Tuesday that he got undetectable steroids and other banned drugs from Barry Bonds’ weight trainer.
Giambi, now a first baseman for the Colorado Rockies, was the first of three baseball players who testified at Bonds’ perjury trial. Each of them said that for a time trainer Greg Anderson was their connection for performance-enhancing substances.
Giambi told the federal court jury in San Francisco that after his 2002 season with the Yankees, he and Bonds joined an American all-star team for a baseball tour of Japan. Bonds brought Anderson.
“I was picking Greg’s brain about what kind of training Barry was doing,” Giambi said. “I mean, he was an incredible baseball player, and I just wanted to continue my career.”
Upon their return to the United States, Giambi said he gave Anderson blood and urine samples for testing at the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative in Burlingame. After that, the trainer began selling him banned drugs.
Anderson packages
Anderson first sent a package of “testosterone, syringes (and) vitamins” to Giambi’s home near Las Vegas. Later, in 2002 or 2003, the trainer sent “some white pills and some yellow pills” as well as the BALCO undetectable steroids, “the cream” and “the clear.” A third package had only the BALCO drugs, he said.
In all, Giambi said, he paid Anderson about $10,000 for the items.
“If I needed (human) growth hormone, (Anderson) could send it to me, but I told him I had it already,” said Giambi, who wore a jacket and tie and spoke to the jury in a conversational tone.
He said that the BALCO tests showed he had been using the injectable steroid Deca-Durabolin at the time he met Anderson. After suffering an injury during the 2003 season, he said, he stopped using the BALCO drugs.
After Giambi’s half hour on the witness stand, two former big-leaguers – Giambi’s brother Jeremy, who played for four clubs, and longtime Giants outfielder Marvin Benard – gave similar testimony, saying they got BALCO steroids and other banned drugs from Anderson.
Posada’s spring BA is of no concern at all. He is such a good, smart hitter and is better at working “tough” walks than anyone on the team, especially situationally. He’s done it his whole career. He’s gonna be a super DH.
btw, where would we be if jeremy giambi had slid into home?
Wait.. wait, WAIT! Chris Christie wants to be Commissioner?! Someone explain where this came from! lol
“Posada’s spring BA is of no concern”
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…nobody’s ST BA is of any concern
For those scoring at home Tex began last year 0-16.
Easiest conclusion is he lets bad starts snowball on him, although he did follow the 0-16 with a 3-4, but then followed that up with ANOTHER 0-16.
A 2-4 opening day would be most welcome.
Thought a foot note to the whole thing, behind strong starting pitching, Yanks went 8-3 against @Bos, @TB, LAA and TX despite his 3-36 outta the 3-hole.
Kind of puts concern about the back-up catcher in perspective, eh?
Shame,
Christie is a big Mets fan, so that rules him out
Shame Spencer,
In that case you might as well throw Vince McMahon’s name on the list for Commish
“btw, where would we be if jeremy giambi had slid into home?”
10th inning?
The “Commissioner of Baseball” is now really the Head of the Owner’s “Union”. No way they are naming someone outside their ranks.
Look for a long-time, low profile owner.
clever the way balco did that. they didnt ask giambi if he was using, they just asked for a sample to analyze. when they knew he was doing steroids, they approach him about buying balco’s steroids.
“After suffering an injury during the 2003 season, he said, he stopped using the BALCO drugs.”
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Way to be a team player, Giambi
i think i went crazier when jeter flipped that ball than i ever went for a sporting event.
and i was pretty crazy (and drunk) the on Reggie Night
and i inadvertently punched willie randolph’s cousin (college aquantance) when bucky hit his homer.
And about lying to Congress – while many may have done it, not many were quite as visible as the American icon Roger Clemens. He created his own demise by insisting on being in the limelight and then by being pretty openly exposed. His courting the members of the committee for person meetings before the hearings even happened was unprecedented. (And then major league baseball as an institution had a lot to lose since its antitrust exemption makes it totally beholden to Congress.)
If Congress is a laughingstock on any level, how much moreso would it have been if it allowed Clemens to slide after his painful-to-watch nationally-televised slip and slide show. The clear message would have been that lying to Congress really had no ramifications whatsoever. For the reigning republican member of that committee to have gone along with presenting it to a federal grand jury, you know they felt they were out of choices on that one.
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Updated chart. http://members.cox.net/lsdorga.....0CHART.pdf
Predictions taken up to first pitch of Opening game.
Triple, I wasn’t the one who mention it, murphydog threw it in on the end of his post in the last thread and I’d never even heard it discussed before so I wanted to know if anyone else had heard such rumblings.
I hate politicians… just ugly celebrities.
LGY March 30th, 2011 at 11:28 am
?After suffering an injury during the 2003 season, he said, he stopped using the BALCO drugs.?
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Way to be a team player, Giambi
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Bob Costas would be a solid Commissioner.
Trisha you make a couple good points. I’ve always had a lot of weird respect for Giambi because of the steroid admission. Think about it, this whole thing goes away if Clemens wouldve said, “I did steroids, I’m retired now, leave me alone.” He could even add a raspberry and a “na na na na na na!” to the end of it and it still wouldnt matter cause he’d be free to live his life, get elected to the Hall of Fame, etc.
“Kind of puts concern about the back-up catcher in perspective, eh?”
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If they went 10-1, they would have won the division!
“After suffering an injury during the 2003 season, he said, he stopped using the BALCO drugs”
That ain’t all he stopped doing.
Clemens deserves to go to jail for stupidity and arrogance alone. He didn’t have to testify in front of Congress. In fact his attorneys were called and told to tell him that his presence was voluntary and that he did not have to tesitfy, that he would be subject to the penalties for penjury if he did come and testify and said anything untruthful. They probably knew they had the goods on him and were trying to help him against himself. His problem was believing that he was indestructable.
“If they went 10-1, they would have won the division!
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And perhaps bounced in the ALDS instead of the ALCS.
I’ve always had a lot of weird respect for Giambi because of the steroid admission. Think about it, this whole thing goes away if Clemens wouldve said, “I did steroids, I’m retired now, leave me alone.”
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At least The Rocket had the decency to do steroids throughout his Yankee career.
Shame, the craziest part of all is that he insisted on testifying. He did not have to be there at all! The worst that would have happened is that people would have been split on whether or not he had told the truth.
giambi is a cheater, i’ll lay that out, first.
but he seems to be the only one being straight about steroids.
of course he has only given it up when forced to the witness stand.
but at least he didnt lie, pretend not too speak english, wag a finger, refuse to talk about the past or threaten to mutilate his mistresses breasts….
he just laid it out there and now its behind him.
lesson to be learned
“At least The Rocket had the decency to do steroids throughout his Yankee career.”
“And perhaps bounced in the ALDS instead of the ALCS.”
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Or taken it to the Rangers in the first round and then romped the Rays or Twins in the ALCS en route to the WS.
I like my scenario better.
Y’s Guy – absolutely agree.
i dont care enough about clemens to want him to go to prison but if he does, too f in bad he asked for it.
i HATE that guy, always did, always will.
dont care that he wore pinstriped, dont care that he has a ring, dont care that he used to be friends with andy pettitte.
i always hated him, he will always be a red sock and a texan and a #%#$#%$% to me
“Clemens deserves to go to jail for stupidity and arrogance alone.”
If stupidity and arrogance were jailable offenses, we’d need a whole lot more jails.
“but he seems to be the only one being straight about steroids”
Wouldn’t go quite that far. Straighter than most, but even when he apologized, he never said exactly what it was he was apologizing for.
Perhaps it reflects badly on me, but I have no interest in any of this at this point. None.
I can’t get worked up about who lied, who didn’t, who cheated, who didn’t.
I have become pretty cynical when it comes to these kinds of things, and I don’t like being a cynic, so I avoid these things altogether anymore.
I used to care who I voted for. I used to listen to what people said. I just got tired of the lies, half-truths and spin.
THanks for taking our predictions trisha!
Costas for commish! Im on board.
Im pumped for tomorrows game….
Tricia, put me down for 92 wins. Please and thanks.
Ys Guy March 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am
“Posada’s spring BA is of no concern”
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…nobody’s ST BA is of any concern
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Yea it doesn’t “count” but if you’re swinging from your heels all the time you’ll be rewarded with a meaningless low BA. Posada has just missed pitches and has been solid as his bat awakens from offseason slumber, so I wouldn’t call his OBP his only “positive” from ST, as the post did.
His BA results belie how he’s looked at the plate.
mell, thats just a legal thing, he wasnt allowed to say the word or they could try to void his contract. i dont think it would have been fair to ask him to give up tens of millions of dollars b/c he got caught doing what every other big slugger was doing.
anyway, in the grand jury and in court today, he laid it right out there.
good for him.
i wouldn’t mind if he found his way back to the Yankees bench before he’s done.
What all are we predicting?
Interesting Predictions in the Post this morning. A lot of picks that didn’t include the Phillies in October.
Doreen – Mostly, I agree with you but like I was saying in the last thread the cases just serve as reminders that there’s still no testing in place thats effective. I still assume a lot of players dope. And thats the part that gets me worked up.
“Perhaps it reflects badly on me, but I have no interest in any of this at this point. None.”
I join you in reflecting badly.
Bonds, Clemens,whatever… zero interest.
trisha – it is crazy when you think about it that way. But its a story thats been told a thousand times.. pride comes before the fall.
blake,
Yankee win total for the season. Trisha has been nice enough to do the chart again this season
Costas would have to take a big pay cut to be commissioner.
blake March 30th, 2011 at 11:50 am
What all are we predicting?
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blake, we could always predict when the next back up catcher debate starts
just about to start my last fantasy draft of the year. i am picking 12th and 13th.
i am going to take arod and tex
Fran,
Thanks. Ill go with 99 wins for the 2011 Yanks Trisha.
And the next BUC catcher debate will start this evening
Shame Spencer -
They probably do.
So what I get annoyed about is the statements by anyone, regular people or press, that presume the “cleanliness” or lack thereof of any particular player.
But I generally sigh and move on. Whatever, is right, stuckey99.
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I guess I’ve turned my attentions homeward – because that’s all I can try to control anyway. And even that’s iffy at times. The world at large is too big for me anymore.
i am going to take arod and tex
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Ys Guy,
Sounds like a good plan to me
How many leagues are you in? I have enough trouble keeping track of the players on one team.
Costas would have to take a big pay cut to be commissioner.
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Major sport commissioners bank like 12 to 15 a year.
GTLU Reminder:
I will be accepting lineups for tomorrow’s Opening Day game starting at 9 pm (tonight) and through to 8:45 tomorrow morning. Trying to circumvent an early lineup posting by Mr. Girardi, and still include those west of the Mississippi.
The next GTLU opportunity will be April 12th.
“Costas would have to take a big pay cut to be commissioner.”
Is someone paying Costas $18 million a year?
Shame Spencer March 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am
pride comes before the fall.
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I’m telling you so that you won’t lose all
Beatle’d.
Scratch that.
Buddy boy takes home 18 to 20
i’ve played roto since the late 80s with a couple of lapses including last season. everybody wants me in thier league
i have 9 teams but only 3 that i really care about. 2 of those are weekly, so its not an every day thing.
Thanks for being part of the chart Patrick.
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Doreen, I don’t think it reflects badly on you at all. Nothing says everyone has to have an avid interest in this, or any interest for that matter. I saw the posts this morning from Murphydog and that’s what caused me to post on it. Of course I am interested in it, probably because of my profession. Not sure I’d be paying as close attenion otherwise.
arod was taken 6th right behind cano
I didn’t like roto. I like head to head better.
And people wonder why Bud doesn’t retire.
Would you give up that paycheck?
Ok, so I may – may – be off a bit.
I still think Costas has a better job now.
Erin – Nicely done.
wait, i screwed that up, cano was available and arod was gone. i took cano but even though tex was available, so was crawford and i couldnt pass that up at 13
Costas would be the LAST person the owner would ever look to.
He’s too married to a bygone era.
Ys Guy,
I was able to do Arod and Tex back to back in my 14 team league while picking from the 12th spot.
I really like my offense
C Santana,1B Tex,2B Johnson,SS Rollins,3B Arod,OF Choo,OF Abreu,OF Huff,DH Manny
JackCurryYES Great picture of Bill Shannon (1941-2010) in Yankee press box. He was best official scorer in business. Died in house fire.
JackCurryYES Gotta hope there will be more tributes to Bill Shannon. No one cared as much about his job or loved being in the press box as much
Hank would make an entertaining comish.
Shame Spencer March 30th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Erin ? Nicely done.
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Thank you. I couldn’t resist.
Erin,
Any tweets on the starting line-up for tomorrow. J/K
I already have my line-up done. Just waiting for news on Granderson.
“He’s too married to a bygone era.”
Plus he likes the game too much. Owners will never go for that.
Same reason why Fay Vincent didn’t work for them. That, and his honesty.
i have a saying for fantasy baseball: ‘they are all player x’
i dont usually care at all what team they play for, etc.
i must be getting soft in my old age
“And the next BUC catcher debate will start this evening”
Oh joy!
Fran the original March 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Erin,
Any tweets on the starting line-up for tomorrow. J/K
I already have my line-up done. Just waiting for news on Granderson.
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Fran, sadly no lineup hints that I’ve seen.
I have mine all ready to go too. I’m optimistic on Granderson-hopefully he’ll come through today good to go.
watching the mets game, drafting and chatting here… wall to wall baseball!
mets second baseman just had a pop up hit behind him and he turned around to see if beltran was going to come catch it.
dude, you’d better get over waiting for beltran to catch your popups for you…
Selig will go down in history as a spineless pinata that turned a blind eye during the PED era yet he was the biggest cheerleader for the home run chases of Sosa, McGwire, Bonds, et al.
Any discussions with him centers around the economic status of the game and how he took the strike shortened season of 1994 and turned the game around. When he’s gone he’ll be the end of an error.
Erin,
I’m hopeful on Curtis too.
wow, its an outfielder’s draft. everybody’s grabbing the position scarcity players. my OF right now is crawford, bj upton and mike stanton.
Selig did turn a blind eye to the PED era and that’ll likely be the #1 remark on his legacy…..however to be fair, he was also part of the solution to that problem and.some good things have been done during his reign. …..interleague play (they play too many games but attendance #s show that fans like it), the wild card, new stadiums, etc.
Any discussions with him centers around the economic status of the game and how he took the strike shortened season of 1994 and turned the game around.
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Can’t imagine his employers are too unhappy with that.
Also revenue sharing….which isn’t perfect but has contributed to the fairness of play and has allowed MLB to have more different champions than any other sport over the last 10 years…..
Every single person at espn picked the Sox to win the east, and the majority picked them to win the WS. So there you go. Saved me a lot of angst this summer.
“When he’s gone he’ll be the end of an error.”
I think a big part of the problem is this might not be the case. Selig had the chance to set a prescient and clean things up within the game. He didn’t and I’m not sure they’ll ever get the union to approve further testing without pressure arising from the scandals being all over the front pages as they had been in the 2000s.
Saw on twitter that they gave Andy’s locker to Phil. Smiles amongst my tears
The PED era was one of the most enjoyable periods in the history of the game.
Selig has.made the owners a crap load of money….which has allowed them to put a better product on the field and in many cases a better ballpark to play in and watch the game in……again he’s not perfect bit o think he’s done some good in his term.
Movin on up…..
PeterBotte Phil Hughes has been given Andy Pettitte’s former locker in #Yankees clubhouse.
Shame,
Yes….what happened may have had to happen to get real testing done…..this is the mlb players union, one of the strongest in the country.
JackCurryYES Sabathia said Yanks “may get to sneak up on” some teams. He admitted that sounds “crazy.”
AnthonyMcCarron CC: ‘we’re not the favorite.’ Are you picking you? ‘I wouldn’t show up if I weren’t’
JackCurryYES CC also said he is picking the Yanks to win it all. “I wouldn’t show up if I didn’t believe that,” he said
Bud Selig is a woman’s commissioner.
How soon we all forget chicks dig the long ball.
“Every single person at espn picked the Sox to win the east, and the majority picked them to win the WS. ”
If one genuinely believes the Sox are being overrated, the Yanks underrated and the Yanks wil outlast them, isn’t this exactly what one should want to happen?
Could there be a better cherry on top?
Heyman for commissh! Can I get some love? lol
blake – But thats just my point, real testing isn’t being done. Cosmetically, the new testing program looks just fine, of course, but it isn’t even close to accounting for what most players are/could be using. Now, everyone is numb to it and just expects that some/half/most players use, so with that mentality will there ever be another window to revamp the drug testing policies?
Heyman for commissh! Can I get some love? lol
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Highly doubt the owners want Boras running the show.
my turn is coming up and both granderson and gardner are on the board. but i have a ton of steals and i need HR’s and some guy named Ortiz is also still on the board…
decisions, decisions…
“Heyman for commissh! Can I get some love? lol”
Comish of what?
brian heyman?
I am really enjoying the Yankees not being picked to win…it will make it all the sweeter when they do
grandy and gardner both just went off the board, papi is still there but i think im gonna wait 4 rounds and pick carlos pena instead.
ill take a pitchers instead
Shame,
The testing isn’t perfect but its night and day better than what it was before which was non existent …..its the strongest of the major sports. It can get betted but I think we can see on the field that its working….older players are aging again, and 40 homers is a lot once more.
Doreen March 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
GTLU Reminder:
I will be accepting lineups for tomorrow’s Opening Day game starting at 9 pm (tonight) and through to 8:45 tomorrow morning. Trying to circumvent an early lineup posting by Mr. Girardi, and still include those west of the Mississippi.
The next GTLU opportunity will be April 12th.
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It will be so close to the end of busy season when the nect GTLU is played.. I can’t wait!
I have carlos pena on my bench bc i walked away from my computer for too long and yahoo picked him for me
huff or carlos pena? opinions?
Pena.
upstate kate: agreed
“Selig did turn a blind eye to the PED era and that’ll likely be the #1 remark on his legacy”
He did, but in all fairness, there has never been a moment in his tenure when his office was the most powerful entity in baseball. That distinction always belonged to the MLBPA. When the game’s most powerful entity didn’t want it addressed, it wasn’t going to happen.
“huff or carlos pena? opinions?”
See if your league left Brandon Belt on the table.
blake – You’re right. I definitely can’t argue with that. I guess everything we see has two measuring sticks which can be used, one showing how far we’ve come and the other showing how far there still is to go. I also find it completely ridiculous that MLB has the most stringent testing program. I don’t understand how these unions are so powerful to the point where they are essentially allowed to defend the act of cheating by protecting the players from ever being tested.
They play SPORTS for a living. Your job is to hit, catch, or throw a dang ball. If your job is completely dependent on your athleticism, it seems like a given you’d have to be clean. If the league minimum is half a million dollars for hitting, catching, or throwing a ball.. you should have to pee in a cup or give your blood up. I mean any member of a union can all be subjected to random drug testing, so all baseball did when they implemented their new testing program was catch up to what ever other average Joe has to deal with, no?
I would have gone huffg. Multiple positions
Mell,
True…
Shame,
Yea its a good point…..its just the nature.of the beast with unions sometimes though. That doesn’t mean its right but the baseball union is super strong and basically the issue had to become big enough for public pressure to force them to change for it to happen.
I find something of an element of mass hypocrisy over the issue of PED’s in sports.
Let me preface this by saying I have no problem if MLB rules to amend the records of players like Bonds and the like of it is legally or through internal inquiry found they circumvented league rules, but mostly I don’t care.
But we’re a culture collectively addicted to “PEDs”, because being exhausted, experiencing spontaneous pain, suffering from allergies, etc, are all NATURAL states of being, but we spend billions of dollars each year “treating” these naturally occurring states in order to “perform” better.
And when was surgically removing a stronger tendon from an ankle, surgically grafting it into your elbow, deemed a “natural” act? That’s science enhancing the human body’s naturally occurring abilities, and not for nothing, drugs are used in that process too. Who’s going to go under the procedure if drugs aren’t used to make the pain of evasive surgery bearable?
Is Tommy John’s career win total “fair” in relation to the generation of pitchers who came before him?
Much to do about nothing, IMO. Just allows folks to partake in what’s really the national pastime – righteous indignation.
Got in front of my computer just in time for today’s chat. Stick around, we’ll get started at noon.
Also, I love that the first comment here was about Steve Forbert. He’s incredibly underrated. Great call, mick.
See you all in a couple of minutes.
took pena, thanks, i put belt on the back end might pick him up on the last pick
my prediction: sj44 for commissioner.
ok, kidding. torre would be a decent choice, but he’d probably be viewed as too pro-union. the owners would want someone more on their side. i remember reading somewhere that condelezza rice wanted the job.
i missed on the catchers but im going to have 5 tradeable players on my bench so ill take marin at the very end and make a trade at some point
Steve Forbert’s Romeo’s Tune = great song
Chad – welcome back, safe and sound.
belt is so far down the list (past 1100)i couldnt find him at first. bill james didnt even doa projection of him but zips likes him alot.
Stuckey,
Puh-lease…..instead of my morning coffee, tomorow Ill just roid up to help jump start might day. One is illegal and one isn’t…..
“belt is so far down the list (past 1100)i couldnt find him at first. bill james didnt even doa projection of him but zips likes him alot”
He had a ridiculous year in the minors last season. 1.075 OPS, .352 avg, 23 homers, 112 rbi, 22 steals. 75+ ExBH’s. Giants really should have him spend a couple weeks in the minors to control his free agency clock, but they are apparently giving serious consideration to putting him on the OD roster.
ian kennedy or anibal sanchez, anybody?
Kennedy
i like them both but madson and farnsworth will still be there and i need saves
“Puh-lease…..instead of my morning coffee, tomorow Ill just roid up to help jump start might day. One is illegal and one isn’t…..”
Blake, marijuana is illegal in most circumstances, alcohol in almost none.
Legality isn’t really the question here. I believe we all likely disagree with some issues of legality here and there.
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Chad might get us some Yankee tickets!!!
kenndy was gone i took madson and farnsworth and everybody went DOH!
dont know how everybody missed that, lidge is out until at least july and farns is the rays closer. these guys took a bunch of backups ahead of them b/c they didnt update thier lists
I’m loving my closer. So far my players are all healthy and starting the season.
GO TEAM PERSPICACITY!
…Second season in a row where the highest AVG and OBP in the Yanks spring training doesn’t make the team…
Something tells me that JoeG won’t call Vázquez to the majors if Chávez gets injuried, maybe like last year he’ll opt to bring up somebody like Golson/Miranda/Russo/Curtis/Huffman, this year could be Laird because he’s younger (even if his bat its worse than Vázquez’s).