Yankees vs. Tigers
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Apr 03, 2011 
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April 3
Yankees lineup
1. Brett Gardner LF
2. Derek Jeter SS
3. Mark Teixeira 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Robinson Cano 2B
6. Nick Swisher RF
7. Jorge Posada DH
8. Curtis Granderson CF
9. Russell Martin C
Phil Hughes P
Tigers lineup
1. Austin Jackson CF
2. Ramon Santiago 2B
3. Brennan Boesch DH
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Victor Martinez C
6. Ryan Raburn LF
7. Don Kelly RF SS
8. Jhonny Peralta SS
9. Brandon Inge 3B
Max Scherzer P
Umpires: CB Bucknor HP, Dan Iassogna 1B, Dale Scott 2B, Jerry Meals 3B
TV/Radio: YES/WCBS 880
Weather: 52 degrees, partly cloudy
Clincher: The Yankees have already clinched the home season series against the Tigers after winning the first two games. The other series against them is a four-game get together May 2-5 at Comerica Park. The Yankees have dropped only two home season series against the Tigers since 1995, going 14-2-1. The Yankees have lost just three overall season series against them in the last 19 years. They come in at 48-26 against them since the beginning of the 2001 season.
Twin killing: The Yankees open a four-game series against visiting Minnesota Monday night, another team they have dominated. They have taken 11 of the last 13 regular-season games against Minnesota, 17 of 19 counting the last two ALDS. The Yankees are 30-6 vs. the Twins at Yankee Stadium since 2002, and that includes the postseason.
A-Rod moving up: Alex Rodriguez needs just one RBI to tie Dave Winfield’s total of 1,834 for 15th on the all-time list.
3,000 Watch: Derek Jeter begins the game 72 hits away.
Update, 1:17: Not a good beginning for Phil Hughes. Looked like he grooved a slider/cutter to Miguel Cabrera, and he hit that two-run homer a long way to left. Hughes tried to refine that pitch and his changeup in spring training.
Update, 1:28: Nice running catch by Ryan Raburn near the left-field fence to rob A-Rod of a double and end the first after Teixeira’s single.
Update, 1:37: Joe Girardi expressed curiosity the last two days about what Hughes’ velocity would be after throwing in the 88-90 during spring training. He wondered if Hughes would be up at 93-94 like last year. So far I’ve seen one 92, but mostly it’s been 89-90. It’s 2-0 still heading for the last of the second.
Update, 1:42: It’s 2-2. Jorge Posada’s ball landed in the second deck in right, his first homer of the season. The Yankees now have six homers on the young season.
Update, 2:00: Leadoff walk, stolen base and RBI bloop single to center by Brennan Boesch, and now Cabrera has hit another rocket for a two-run homer, 88 mph fastball down the middle. It’s 5-2 in the third. Hughes is another guy who needs to be more consistent this season, although he won a lot of games last year.
Update, 2:03: Bartolo Colon is warming. But Hughes got of the inning just now.
Update, 2:09: The third inning and we already have eight runs. Mark Teixeira’s third homer in three games cuts it to 5-3.
Update, 2:10: The third inning and we already have nine runs. Robinson Cano’s fly ball homer down the right-field line cuts it to 5-4. It’s Cano’s first of the season.
Update, 2:13: Raburn botched Posada’s liner to left, dropping it for an error. So it’s second and third with two outs.
Update, 2:17: Granderson strands the runners with a fly to right-center. Think this is the end of the scoring in this game?
Update, 2:24: Hughes escaped the fourth with just a single allowed. Colon was warming again. I believe Hughes is at 90 pitches already.
Update, 2:30: Colon is still throwing in the pen here in the bottom of the fourth, so maybe Hughes is done. We’ll see.
Update, 2:37: Hughes is done. Not a job well done. Five runs, five hits, two homers, two walks, one K, four innings. Colon will make his Yankees debut.
Update, 2:42: This Bartolo Colon as the long man venture isn’t off to a good start. He just served up a leadoff single to Ramon Santiago, and Brennan Boesch followed with a shot to the front row of the second deck in right.
Update, 2:57: Another homer for Posada, two-run shot to the Yankees’ bullpen. It’s 7-6. It’s his 17th multihomer game.
Update, 3:10: Colon isn’t looking so hot. Single, walk, double, it’s 8-6 in the sixth.
Update, 3:12: Sac fly, 9-6.
Update, 3:37: The Yankees are never out of a game with this lineup. Nick Swisher’s RBI double here in the seventh makes it a two-run deficit.
Update, 4:02: Brett Gardner hasn’t excelled leading off today, now 0 for 5 with three Ks after fanning again here in the eighth. Derek Jeter is 0 for 4 with a walk in the two-hole.
Update, 4:17: Joba continues the poor day of pitching by allowing a run in the ninth. The Yankees have given up 14 hits.
Update, 4:28: No undefeated season this year. The Yankees lose the series finale, 10-7.
Lets go hughes!
can’t hang one to him like that…
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Ouch… He punished that!
same ole Hughes
Walk this guy instead of giving him a meatball with 2 outs….
That was not the right pitch at that moment.
Let’s Go Hughes!
Totally missed the target on that one.
That was a meatball
Just like last year… Hughes can’t finish hitters and here comes another 20-pitch inning.
I knew the second that ball left Phil’s hand that the ball was ending up in the seats.
2 out and nobody on
I know someone on this board who is happy now.
Haha that was crazy.
Hughes location is a bit off, but he’s honestly throwing the ball pretty well today. He’ll settle in. His stuff looks pretty good.
We’re not exactly facing the best pitcher in the world, even though Scherzer can be good. He and Hughes are pretty comparable.
Really,why not pitch around that guy??
is there a reason Hughes cannot put a hitter away when he has 2 strikes?
That alcoholic fat turd with another HR off of us. From an 0-2 count. I wish someone would drill Cabrera right in the head, for 2003, for 2010, and for today.
I haven’t posted here since last year. Its almost refreshing to see the comments during games never change around here.
Here’s hoping that Scherzer continues his terrible spring today. When he’s on, he’s as good as naybody in the league. Went to my high school and I’ve taken a few swings against him as he’s friends with my brother. Should be interesting.
Cabrera does that to lots of pitchers. One bad pitch no big deal.
He made good pitches to Vmart but you just can’t miss in the middle of the plate with Cabrera….he’s too good.
Alright settle down Hughes. Got through the 1st.
Cue the Hughes panic!!!
Fitness, everyone knows you’re a red sox fan posting on a yankees blog.
Really sad/pathetic of you to say to drill someone in the head. Can’t expect much more from a red sox fan, though.
I see Vazquez 1st start for the Marlins isn’t going well. Already down 2-0 to the Mets in the top of the 1st.
Damn I hate that. Gardner takes three pitches right down the middle.
Triple Short of a Cycle April 3rd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
is there a reason Hughes cannot put a hitter away when he has 2 strikes?
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Same reason every other so/so pitcher can’t. Mediocre stuff.
Max looks pretty sharp in the early going here. He’s got great stuff, just lacks consistency at times.
Anyone know what song Brett Gardener is walking up to the plate to? I was at the game yesterday and couldn’t hear enough to figure out what it was…
did gardner really take three pitches all for strikes?
Hughes calmly gave Tigers’ first lead in the season.
good job.
Another Derek Jeter 100-hopper to an infielder… Anybody know what the record is? I feel certain he’ll shatter it.
$56 million well spent.
Hughes is crap. Fastball isn’t fast. Breakingball doesn’t break. Offspeed doesn’t change speed. Just terrible.
Great hit by tex!
Another grounder by Jeter…Who ya gonna call?? Wormbusters!
High, far, and CAUGHT. Thanks Sterling….
damn
wow, A-Rod
F**k
man nice catch…. alex is right on everything.
Alex smoked that. Close to tying up the game.
That was a great catch
What a great jump and a great catch!
That was a great play…great jump.
Is there some physical law of nature that attracts the most idiotic comments possible to the game blogs here?
One of those days????
Great catch by a “bundle of sticks” making 100% effort against us and not the red sox
i thought that ball was gone
Teams are going to start putting out extra outfielders for ARod.
WCYF……What kind of pitch did Miguel hit and to what field ???? I’m just tuning in …..
I just remembered why I ordinarily don’t touch this blog with a 10-foot pole during games. I’m out for now.
Enjoy your hand wringing and bridge jumping, you fair-weather “fans”.
Pat M,
hanging slider/cutter up and middle of the plate …..deep LF.
i dont remember hughes in april last year with such a slow FB. 86-89?
qiantom April 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Hughes is crap. Fastball isn’t fast. Breakingball doesn’t break. Offspeed doesn’t change speed. Just terrible.
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Remember the Yankees telling everybody he was “the next Roger Clemens”???
Laughable.
He has a low-90′s fastball that could not be any straighter and nothing else, which is why he changes his primary second pitch every single year.
But, if the Yankees score 8 runs a game for him, he’ll get plenty of wins… Just like every other crap pitcher in the game would.
thanks blake
it’s like they know what he’s throwing
Hughes has thrown a ton of secondary stuff, fastball 90-91, his new cutter doesnt look nearly as sharp as it did in spring.
Last year he had an extended spring start at this time and started in the real majors 5 days later. Wonder if that has much to do with it.
Tarheel In NYC,
I’m sure you will be missed
Where are the fans?
Here we go with another in the endless line of at-bats that goes FOREVER against Phil Hughes. He can’t put ANYBODY away.
38 pitches with 1 out in the second… Just like virtually every start last year.
Common
YankeesNMore,
you are either a Red Sox troll or the dumbest Yankee fan on earth…..still haven’t put my finger on it yet.
igotid88 April 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
it’s like they know what he’s throwing
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You don’t have to know what he’s throwing. His stuff is common.
What have I said that’s not accurate, Blake?
Stop attacking the messenger and tell me what I said that you disagree with.
Hughes cutter/slider just isn’t working like it was that last start in spring. Its too slow, not enough break. He shouldn’t be throwing it so much if he isn’t going to be throwing consistently good ones.
The one Cabrera got a handle on was 79 mph, and it wasn’t a curve or a change up. He basically threw a BP fastball to cabrera.
No sellout today!!!!!!!! Looks like there is seating available. Hughes has to pitch to contact. He still doesn’t have that putaway fastball with movement……..
how did that ball for farther Alex’s smash?
This game is weird, Hughes is doing the opposite thing he did most of last year – he’s throwing too much off speed.
His fastball is weak and frankly I liked the tighter cutter better than this slider thing he’s throwing.
I guess Phil will get his velocity up as he pitches more but it wasn’t this low this time last year.
Michael Kay says “popped up” on that Inge fly ball… REALLY??? He was right on that pitch.
That was a long pop-up as Kay called it, but it’s still an out.
JF,
nah it’s not. It was nasty in that spring game….been more like a bad slider today so far. Hopefully he’ll loosen up here as the game goes.
Hughes velocity is definitely down. 89-91 fastball. Maybe a little dead arm from the spring. Nothing to worry about he’s young and healthy.
why are people worried about hughes this early? cc didn’t have a great game either. nor did aj
jackamir April 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
No sellout today!!!!!!!! Looks like there is seating available. Hughes has to pitch to contact. He still doesn’t have that putaway fastball with movement……..
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He hardly EVER has that.
This is exactly the way he pitched in the large majority of his games last year… and the year before, when he started
Get it started Robbie.
Hughes 89-91 so far today by the YES gun….still getting late swings on it though.
Cabrera hit a breaking ball. He missed the glove
Not worried, but its worth noting that the slider which he punched out 6 guys with or whatever last start in spring is completely absent. He is throwing a cutter that is for all intents and purposes the same as his fastball but 5-8 mph slower.
Its flat.
Gotta get Scherezers pitch count up.
igotid88 April 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
why are people worried about hughes this early? cc didn’t have a great game either. nor did aj
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Because we saw him pitch the large majority of his games JUST LIKE THIS last year, too. And when he started the year before… Guess what??? Same thing.
This is who he is.
Cano is due for a HR
WCYF, it was a cutter, 79 mph cutter. Which is his ‘slider’, but it had no break to it.
The “bundle of sticks” didnt make that catch.
Nice job Swish! This Yanks order is so deep. 7-9 are even tough outs who will work the pitcher.
Ah, Jorge…
POPO
well, our DH is awesome
How Hughes was once regarded the top pitching prospect of all baseball is really beyond me. A mediocre fastball and no real secondary pitch. That is really brilliant stuff!
Oooohhh…. Tied game is good!
Jorge!!!!!
Posada! new ballgame 0-0
The “bundle of sticks” couldnt catch that one either! BOOOOOOOOOM!!! Jo-Po!!!!!
they’re hitting scherzer hard.
Hip hip Jorge
SADO!!!!!!
Now where is Jorge in the ring of great Yankees Catchers
Dangerous lineup!!!
Man, Jorge still has a quick stick
Yankee homers to right field so far have not been cheapies.
Hip hip Jorge
I predicted that Jorge would have a big year before the season. Not having to catch and saving the wear and tear from that could really have a positive impact. He’s still got pop in his bat. 25 homers is definitely within reach which is great production from the DH spot.
All Tex has to do today is hit a fly ball to RF and he’ll have homers on 3 days in a row
Lol. the reverse curse of LoHud. Jorgie didn’t like what he heard here.
qiantom April 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
How Hughes was once regarded the top pitching prospect of all baseball is really beyond me. A mediocre fastball and no real secondary pitch. That is really brilliant stuff!
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Agreed.
But he’ll have a few starts a year where his stuff is a notch or two better than it is the rest of the time, and many will say, “see?” and expect him to be that guy most of the time…
But he’s not… He’s THIS guy most of the time.
Should be of interest how Martin approaches the 2nd spin through the Tiger lineup
hey guys whats good
Singleton called it as a breaking ball – it looked like one to me it had a bend to it like one. Was supposed to be low and outside and he missed over the plate. A hanger.
>The “bundle of sticks” didnt make that catch.
You DO realize that even though you’re only using the definition of the word, it’s still a slur, right? Unless you’re quoting someone and I just don’t realize it…
does Max Scherzer suck because he gave up a 2 run homer?
feels so good to have Jorge’s bat at DH without having to have Cervelli’s non bat with it.
Now where is Jorge in the ring of great Yankees Catchers
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Tyler,
He hit that as a DH
teixeira, arod, cano, swisher, posada and granderson should hit 20+ hrs this year. jeter and martin should hit 15 hrs and gardner probably less than 5.
Martin’s swing looks great…very short.
Great ab by russy!
Ok Gardner now maybe this at-bat you will decide to swing. I hope he realizes you can actually swing at the first strike, it’s not against the rules
thames, my bad I mean jones will hit more HRs than gardner
Ugh, Kay. Russell Martain?
I’d like to see Martin run here.
time for russell to steal!
You hope Martin stays healthy he sure looks good.
that was weak
God I hate Imus
Martin is still under our control for next year – if he has a good season I want to keep him and have jesus hit at DH and occastionally catch and play first base.
note to hughes: don’t pitch to Cabrera unless you absolutely have to.
fran,
I know lol. With all the conversation here earlier I figured that I would just throw that out there lol.
Singleton called it as a breaking ball – it looked like one to me it had a bend to it like one. Was supposed to be low and outside and he missed over the plate. A hanger.
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Looked to me like a flat breaking pitch with no bite, which appears to be backed up by Cabrera and PitchFx. PitchFx classified it as a cutter with 7 inches of break and and an 8″ PFX value. His curve should be over 10 on break and near 2 on PFX value. The rotation of the pitch and the action on the pitch classified it as a cutter, so likely his new slider that he is going after righties with and it just backed up.
Its an example of the problem he is having with the pitch.
Imus=Anus
Another 3-2 count??? Wow! I haven’t seen that a BILLION times with Phil Hughes on the mound.
its only his first start but hes showing some flashes of last year
was that a fastball at 84???
Yankees tie the game and Hughes walks Jackson.
53 pitches for SIX OUTS! Just like last season.
Tyler,
And Martin only got a single
What are those 83-84 mph pitches-cutters?
Richie Rich April 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
its only his first start but hes showing some flashes of last year
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Not “flashes” … The “flashes” are when he has good stuff and controls the game.
Mediocre stuff, can’t put anybody away and soaring pitch counts are the NORM with Hughes.
This is who he is.
thinking colon may see some game time this afternoon.
Hughes had less 3-2 counts than Sabathia last year.
Im not anti-”bundle of sticks.” Im just calling Rayburn “bundle of sticks” because I think he should be lit on fire and burned like a bundle of sticks, in one’s fireplace.
different year same hughes
Get ready Bartolo Colon… You’re gonna have to pitch a LOT of innings today.
Hughes cannot finish batters, just like last year.
Our SP rotation is a huge question mark.
This is sickening. From 0-2 to 3-2 almost every time.
I expect Ajax to test Martin at some point here.
This game will boil down to whether its still within reach when Hughes is lifted and if so, whether Colon throws like he did in the spring.
Mirror image of 2H 2010 Hughes thus far.
How many 2 strike hits does Hughes give up?
I’ll take Singletons opinion over a computer program. Thanks.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Hughes had less 3-2 counts than Sabathia last year.
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He also had a hell of a lot fewer innings.
What are those 83-84 mph pitches-cutters?
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Yea though some of the 84 mph pitches are going to be change ups. All the ones in this AB are cutters. Its just not as a very good pitch.
He hasn’t got a swinging strike yet, which even with his OTHER cutter last year he had 14% swinging strikes, and his new one got ridiculous amount of swinging strikes in spring. This pitchdoesn’t resemble either. Something he needs to work on in the pen.
62 Pitches with 1 out in the third. Not good.
Hughes had games like this last year and still ended up pitching into the 6th
Blake, still waiting to hear from you on what it is I’ve said about Hughes that is not COMPLETELY accurate.
JobaTipsHisCap April 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Hughes cannot finish batters, just like last year.
Our SP rotation is a huge question mark.
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The Yankees rotation is no more of a question mark than every other team in the league (maybe besides the Giants and Phillies). AJ looked much better, CC looked good…. lets let the season play out… we haven’t even seen Nova or Garcia yet.
I’m no expert, but something is probably mechanical here. He’s living up in and out of the zone.
I’ll take Singletons opinion over a computer program. Thanks.
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As is your right, but you’d be wrong. Announcers mess up pitch ident all the time because they only have a monitor. Pitch FX is a sophisticated system which measures velocity, break, and spin on a pitch.
could have had him but he threw it too low
m April 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
I’m no expert, but something is probably mechanical here. He’s living up in and out of the zone.
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He look exactly the same as he has in the LARGE majority of his major league starts.
There is no “issue” to solve. This is who Phil Hughes IS.
if it was a good throw he would had gotten ajax
that was close
Tampa sure couldn’t afford this to happen. They’re light on offense as is.
MLB MLB
Strained oblique sends Longoria to DL … http://atmlb.com/fqdI6y
oh my, Hughes…..
If Yankee pitchers can hold runners a little better this season, Martin could really keep runners from stealing too many bases. Good quick release and throw.
He also had a hell of a lot fewer innings.
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Its not about innings its about batters faced. Of course CC had less 3-2 counts as a percentage of batters faced, but Hughes did not throw an above average amount of 3-2 counts.
And Hughes gags it right back up.
Common, common, common.
I don’t think you understand the context of “bundle of sticks” meaning what we all obvious see you are using it to mean. If you actually meant him to be a bundle of sticks, you wouldn’t use the quotation marks that you’ve used. Also, if you actually did the research, the word doesn’t directly equate to that orientation. It equates to a horrible practice, not someones life choice.
Gotta be a pretty helpless feeling out there for Hughes. He has absolutely nothing.
This guy cant put away a batter. Allow batters to put the ball in play and that’s what will happen.
Richie Rich April 3rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
if it was a good throw he would had gotten ajax
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Radio described it as an excellent laser throw. But Jeter had to move glove because AJax slide to outside. Where are you getting info from?
We’ll get a nice 4 innings out of Hughes today. Thanks, Phil.
Maybe Betsy is right to worry about Phil?
I’m no expert, but something is probably mechanical here. He’s living up in and out of the zone.
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You may be right, he isn’t spotting the fastball at the knees on the edge like he did. As I said earlier, at this time last year he was in extended spring. Could have something to do with it.
Decent attempt by Martin.
I don’t know what “Nasty Factor” is on Gameday but whatever it is, Phil doesn’t appear to be scoring well on it today.
Hughes did not throw an above average amount of 3-2 counts.
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Phil Hughes is THE MAN!
What a pitcher.
Pride of the organization.
oh well, pitching wins the game, apparently we don’t have it today
We’ll get a nice 4 innings out of Hughes today. Thanks, Phil.
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If we’re lucky.
ugly
His stuff just is not sharp at all today. He’s throwing 83 mph cutters with little break, having a hard time controlling his breaking ball, and his fastball does not have good velocity or movement. Pretty amazing that he’s only given up 3… guy just doesn’t have it today.
Phil Pews…..
This is why I never understood when people talked about the Yankee rotation and counted CC and Hughes as sure things
damn well he has 33 more starts
Wow. Cabrera is just a MONSTER at the plate. Has been his entire life.
putrid. anyone else concerned that we’ve seen in total about 3 good months of pitching from hughes in his career?
Get this jerkoff out of the game. 2nd HR of the game to this alcoholic.
It really upsets me that Phil will never be more than a 3/4 pitcher, because he has nothing near an out pitch.
Not an impressive outing by Hughes at all. 70 pitches in the 3rd inning.
how can hughes even pitch to cabrera after that first HR?
Is this the dead arm period they always talk about??
This could be that dreaded sophomore year for Hughes.
Stuff just looks flat.
And Hughes just stands there dumbfounded. Like he can’t understand how those crappy pitches are getting CRUSHED!
everybody it’s his first start of the season. He’ll probably have a stronger 2nd half.
Just do not give Cabrera anything to hit. I’ll take my chances with V-Mart any day of the week over Cabrera. The guys is probably the 2nd best hitter in the game behind Pujols.
Hughes is terrible as expected
Keep throwing flat pitches
1 man rotation
Rough start for Hughes – it happens to the best of them. Just dismiss it and do your side work with Rothschild and move on.
Someone should have taken Cabrera out for some drinks last night..
89??? The ghost of Bartolo Colon throws harder than this guy now. Geez!!
Fitnesscenter For-Jeden April 3rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Get this jerkoff out of the game. 2nd HR of the game to this alcoholic.
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Make all the alcoholic and fat jokes that you want, but Cabrera is the 2nd best hitter in all of baseball.
DocTodd – yes, its the dead arm period that phil hughes has had since last june.
He’s having a bad outing. It happens. To everyone. You can start crying if he’s doing this in June.
I blame Marting for not throwing out Ajax at second
They beter provide some protection for those folks sitting in the left field bleachers…
it’s fine, the offense can even this out pretty quickly….
need hughes to build his arm strength though, because 88 mph fastballs won’t do it.
Hughes plays right into the strategy to let Joba vulture a win and regain major league lead.
Tyler April 3rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
His stuff just is not sharp at all today.
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The days when his stuff is “sharp” are the exception to the rule.
He’s throwing just like he did the large majority of last season and, when he started, the year before.
igotid88 April 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I blame Marting for not throwing out Ajax at second
Blame Hughes for walking him.
According to Gameday, everything Phil is throwing is up in the zone. Of course he’s going to get crushed if he can’t keep the ball down.
Stuff, nothing. Hughes isn’t having a good game because of location, location, location.
But, hey, I guess now they don’t have a great shot to do 162-0. Whoa is me. Season over. Boo hoo.
This is where Russel Martin’s game calling can hurt, he emphasizes secondary stuff so much but with Hughes he shouldn’t be asking him to throw this many cutters. Cabrera’s 2nd HR was off a bad cutter.
Am I the only one aware of the fact that Hughes was good for half of last season and stunk in the second half? Seems likes folks, in an effort to pretend the rotation was good, forgot that Phil Hughes was considerably worse than the 18 wins everyone wants to fawn over.
Too many flat pitches to too many good hitters….Leadoff walks are an invite for trouble
Vazquez is getting crushed in Florida. 7-0 Mets and threatening in the top of the 3rd.
I won’t pretend to know whether or not Hughes had an “above average number of 3-2 counts” last year…
But I will GUARANTEE you he had an above average number of 20-pitch innings last year.
Hughes looks terrible – I wonder why his velocity isn’t higher. He needs to get that fastball up a few mph or he’s not going to be able to strike anyone out. That, or his changeup needs to lose a few MPH and his slider/cutter needs to gain 2-3mph.
One of his biggest problems I’ve noticed is that he can’t seem to pitch inside. Every time there is a target inside (esp to lefties) he misses it by a good bit leaving it over the plate.
Lets get a couple of these back this inning. Perfect guys to do it… they are hitting Max pretty hard. If they can keep it at 5, I think they have a great chance here.
Stuff, nothing. Hughes isn’t having a good game because of location, location, location.
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Location is key, but Hughes stuff is flat today. He has 2 swinging strikes all game. Fastball with no zip, cutter with no break, and his curve hasn’t been able to drop in for a strike.
Carl April 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
igotid88 April 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I blame Marting for not throwing out Ajax at second
Blame Hughes for walking him.
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it was a joke
What’s that??? a 30-hopper to an infielder???
Derek Jeter is getting better!
Tex!!
Well damn Tex
Tex Msg
Tex is having a REALLY slow start this year.
Tex is on fire
Tex on track for a 162 homer season….looking good.
3 for tex……
Tex is scorching hot.
You’ve now trashed two players, YNM. This is why no one takes you seriously. No matter how much you beg for it.
Your ranting and raving is so moronic.
Wow Tex and Arod are both ridiculously locked in!
Am I the only one aware of the fact that Hughes was good for half of last season and stunk in the second half? Seems likes folks, in an effort to pretend the rotation was good, forgot that Phil Hughes was considerably worse than the 18 wins everyone wants to fawn over.
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Hughes wasn’t as bad as his ERA indicated in the 2nd half. He got beat up by the blue jays but against all other teams had a 3 ERA. Its no excuse to get beat up by 1 team, but its not like he went out every time and stunk.
A-Rod’s turn
You’re on the MARK Teixiera!
oh my, that’s NOT a strike, geez.
Tex is on track for…a lot of homeruns.
oh that was outside. Hughes would have more k’s if the ump called those for him
Tex and Cano!!!!
Tough call right there on Arod… Borderline pitch at best.
lol Cano
Cano!!
Robbie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The wind
Sterling is really hestitatin gnow on home run calls…interesting how he is adapting to poor eyesight.
That was like a Pesky Pole shot.
Robbie goes yard!
So… THIS is the Yankees plan for the year? Just hit nothing but homeruns? I’ll take it?
Homerun derby time!!! Cano is back!
Man the ball is carrying to right today….Cano didn’t hit that at all.
Is it too early to say that Yankee stadium will play like it did in 09
Robi getting in the act. Should be a tie game right now.
Apparently Detroit’s pitchers are not having great starts either. Just sayin’.
Hughes needs to never throw that cutter. It’s a terrible, flat pitch that gets crushed EVERY time he throws it.
Hopefully he regains some strength as the season moves on, adds some more velocity and late life on his fastball.
let hughes go 5
Jerkface,
You’re fighting a losing battle today..
Hughes looks bad, he has a lot of stuff to work out.
1. Fastball velocity is down
2. His cutter is awful, he never should have changed it
3. Pitch selection is terrible
It’s not like he can’t fix these things but I’m not going to pretend they are minor issues
m April 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
You’ve now trashed two players, YNM. This is why no one takes you seriously. No matter how much you beg for it.
Your ranting and raving is so moronic.
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What have I said about Jeter or Hughes that is not accurate?
Swisher looking good
Tyler,
Saw that Mets score. And they said that Vazquez would be better back in the NL. It is only 1 start, but getting blown out by the Mets….
Wonder if Tiger fans are on blogs calling their good young pitcher a bum for having a bad opening start?
“Location is key, but Hughes stuff is flat today. He has 2 swinging strikes all game. Fastball with no zip, cutter with no break, and his curve hasn’t been able to drop in for a strike.”
No argument from me. But the reason guys like Sabathia are able to muddle through on days they don’t have good stuff is because they can still locate it pretty well. Hughes through two flat pitches right down the middle to Cabrera and they got hammered. If he puts those flat pitches in better locations, probably a different result.
dont know about 5 for hughes, but definitely 4. We NEED him to build his arm speed back.
Love the people complaining sooo much about Hughes when Scherzer has been hit even harder… All the damage against Hughes has been done by Boesch and Cabrera. Every Yankee is killing Scherzer.
It happens, of course, but this is exactly what the scouts were saying about Phil in ST………………his workload from last year could have affected him – it’s affected lots of young pitchers. He still has to figure out how to put hitters away with 2 strikes.
how many HRs so far at Yankee Stadium this year
Tex – 3
A-Rod – 1
Posada – 1
Cano – 1
Martin – 1
Cabrera – 2
AJax – 1
V-Mart – 1
11 wow… am I missing any?
That was an awesome camera angle there
Face…..When Hughes has more bb’s than K’s that line jumps out at me….Very flat stuff up in the zone…..
Wow, great hustling by Swisher and Posada.
Fran,
I think Javy is just about done even in the NL. He has no fastball left at all. His secondary stuff is still good but it’s not going to be very effective if you can just sit on an 80 mph slurve.
oh yea Granderson – 1
11 wow… am I missing any?
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Granderson
Interesting comments, Patrick
Hughes’s stuff has looked very flat today….there is no question about that but its one start and the first one of the season.
Strike 3 to AROD was not a strike. Strike 1 to Grandy was not a strike.
thinking there are going to be a lot of high scoring games this year…
2. His cutter is awful, he never should have changed it
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This I disagree with, the cutter he showcased at the end of spring looked great. It was just like Nova’s new cutter/slider. Tight break, lots of swinging strikes. This is not that pitch.
He still throws the old one to lefties.
Make that 3 players you’ve trashed. Montero?
Getting personal and calling them names.
Can’t even get to the accurate stuff you write because it’s tough wading through the crap.
Long past time for a change.
Cabrera isn’t a guy you want to face on a day when you don’t have your best stuff or location.
>West Coast Yankee Fan April 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Swisher looking good
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He’s surprised me today, he usually takes about a week to get started, but he seems a bit ahead of schedule.
m April 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Make that 3 players you’ve trashed. Montero?
Getting personal and calling them names.
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Example please?
And I’m still waiting to hear what it is I wrote that’s not accurate.
Blake, the Yankees need to keep an eye on Phil if for nothing else than his velocity………..Of course, they can’t cure a heavy workload, but velocity seems to be only one of his issues today
If Tex hadn’t slacked off and settled for just a 1-run HR, the Yankees would have the lead again. Jerk should have hit his usual 3-run shot.
Interesting comments, Patrick
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Glad you think so
blake-
It’s scary to think how good Cabrera could be if he took better care of himself. Cabrera, Pujols, and a healthy Hamilton are in a class of their own at the plate.
“And I’m still waiting to hear what it is I wrote that’s not accurate.”
you’re making inaccurate statements about a player’s general ability based on today’s outing.
Tyler – Did you forget a guy named Alex….on the team you supposedly cheer?
last yankee to hit homers in the 1st 3 games of the season? Is it Winfield?
Tyler – Or a guy named Robinson?
Betsy,
yea his stuff is flat today and has been down a little this spring….something to keep an eye on but not go crazy about yet, lets see how he looks in a couple weeks. As long as he’s not hurt, I think he’ll be ok.
come on one more quick out
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
“And I’m still waiting to hear what it is I wrote that’s not accurate.”
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False.
Hughes pitched similar to this most of last season.
Tyler,
he’s incredible, just nowhere to pitch him that he can’t hit and you don’t want to make a mistake to him.
Fitnesscenter-
I’m not blasting Alex or Robinson at all, but IMO they are not quite in Pujols or Cabrera’s class although Alex looks like he might be back to his old form.
Cano is in the next tier of hitters directly below Cabrera which is still very good. Cano is a top 10 player in the game IMO. He’s just simply not as good of a hitter as Cabrera which is not an insult at all.
Hughes is very predictable. He relies too much on his fastball and cutter. He has gotten away from his curve, the pitch that shot him up the system, and now he has no feel for it and can’t throw it for a strike or bury it. These high pitch counts are a result of this. The hitters know Hughes can only throw his cutter and fastball for strikes so they know what to look for. It becomes even worse when Hughes cutter is flat because then he becomes a one pitch pitcher.
“Hughes pitched similar to this most of last season.”
no he didn’t
Come on Hughes. This out is big.
another 3-2, shocker
if the yanks can tie or take the lead. maybe give hughes a win or no decision
Same trolls different names apparently.
It’s like Yankee fan deja vu, lol.
Hughes doesn’t look great at all, but is it really stuff that can’t be worked on, thats worth getting all worked up about on his first start? I’m curious.
Great bounceback inning there. Yanks very much in this game.
Hughes is fine. Good pitchers have rough starts and rough patches.
Tyler, completely disagree about Alex……….and he hasn’t been healthy in a couple of years.
Perfect game for C . B . so far .
When did Hughes last pitch ??? Anybody know ??? Giradi will let him pitch his way through this as long as he can today….
Angel – too logical for many here.
Hughes gave up 5 or more ER’s in only 7 starts last year and was knocked out before the 5th inning only once.
C . B . ‘s E . R . A . == 0 . 0000
Scrolling back, you got one thing right. Hughes is the pride if the organization.
You mentioned Jeter. Freudian slip there. And Montero is not a douchebag.
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
“Hughes pitched similar to this most of last season.”
no he didn’t
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If you honestly believe that, you either didn’t watch or didn’t recognize what you were seeing.
They even broke it down on the YES telecast before the game.
He was AWESOME the first six starts, then pitched to a 5 ERA the rest of the year.
Can’t put people away… one 20-pitch inning after another…
You HONESTLY don’t remember that??? He had those problems in the LARGE majority of his starts last season. The LARGE majority.
Yankee bats won’t quit….boy Martin looks good.
looks like Montero will never see a Yankee uniform for the regular season or so it seems
Yankee Trader,
You won the quiz of the day. Congratulations.
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Cabrera isn’t a guy you want to face on a day when you don’t have your best stuff or location.
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You almost wish that when Cabrera comes to bat that he’d get an emergency phone call. It’s not like he hasn’t hit a few homers off of Yankee pitchers before. He’s hitting over .400 with 10 homers off of Yankee pitchers in his career.
Martin looking like he did when he was healthy in LA.
5 hour game in the making, perhaps 4 1/2. Martin looks like he might have a bounceback year…..
help i’m being attacked by ants
YankeesNMore,
You have no idea what you’re talking about….that’s pretty much the only thing that’s clear.
Hughes threw 40 fastballs… 37 cutters. Not good.
“And Montero is not a douchebag.”
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ANYBODY who says, “I just want an opportunity” five minutes after they just peaced away a GOLDEN opportunity like Montero did is behaving like a douchebag.
Gardner needs to move Martin to 3rd in this at bat.
i didnt take the garbage out for a couple of days and now they’re everywhere
GB,
I know…Cabrera just murders the Yanks and loves hitting at YS.
No reason for Gardner not to lay one down there.
Tyler – Alex is in the tier below Cabrera and Pujols? Seriously? But Hamilton is in the same class as Cabrera and Pujols? What about AGON?
Cabrera hits everyone – no shame in that.
I’ve always felt that Gardner has looked better batting 9th than leadoff. It seems like he presses too much when leading off. He has all the tools to be a fantastic leadoff hitter but just doesn’t look comfortable up there….
I guess I’ll wait until Hughes’ 2nd start before I get concerned.
WCYF,
I agree. Bad at bat by Gardner there.
Gardner bunts with runners on 1st and no outs. But with a runner on 2nd and no outs, he’s just swinging away
Pat M, Phil last pitched on Tuesday in a simulated game
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
YankeesNMore,
You have no idea what you’re talking about….that’s pretty much the only thing that’s clear.
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So Hughes did NOT have problems putting hitters away in the majority of his starts last year??? He did NOT regularly have a soaring pitch count early because of so many 20-pitch innings???
What, specifically, am I wrong about??? I’ll be happy to post his monthly ERA splits if you really don’t remember them.
ok, single should be good for TEX.
come on teix. everyone expects you to hit one out. but a bloop single will do
You’re the douchebag. Haha. Time to change it.
I’ve always felt that Gardner has looked better batting 9th than leadoff. It seems like he presses too much when leading off
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The stats don’t back this up. 9th is one of his worst spots statistically.
Fitnesscenter For-Jeden April 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Tyler – Alex is in the tier below Cabrera and Pujols? Seriously? But Hamilton is in the same class as Cabrera and Pujols? What about AGON?
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I said Cano was in the tier below. Last year, Alex wasn’t even close to Cabrera and Pujols. He looks great so far this year but I’m not going to judge based off 3 games.. He needs to stay healthy.
I’d take both Pujols and Cabrera over A-Gon any day of the week.
Oh good. Now maybe Tex can hit another 3-run HR
I’ll be happy to post his monthly ERA splits if you really don’t remember them.
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How about his game by game logs?
YankeesNMore, you’re not fooling anyone. You’re not a real Yankees fan.
You’re a psychotic person raging about how terrible the Yankees are. NOTHING is ever positive.
Nobody wants to hear from your negativity, which is why not a single soul reads your “blog” which looks like someone had a seizure while making it. It’s the worst thing I’ve seen Yankees related or anything website related.
Hamilton has a platoon split, not elite tier sorry.
Jerkface, are you kidding? You’re sure that’s correct?
No reason for Gardner not to lay one down there
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Except for bunting being stupid, a wasted out, and overall reduction of your chance of scoring
Other than that, no reason.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I’ve always felt that Gardner has looked better batting 9th than leadoff. It seems like he presses too much when leading off
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The stats don’t back this up. 9th is one of his worst spots statistically.
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I’m not going to pretend to know the statistics but I just don’t think he looks comfortable at the top of the order. His hot start last year was when he was lower in the lineup I thought…
Yankees shouldn’t be playing to tie in the 4th inning. The defenders were in expecting a bunt, perfect time to swing away. That is where bunting every so often helps Gardner by pulling in the defenders.
Jerkface-
It seems that most of those cutters were at 83-84 mph with little movement.
Would like Colon to come in next inning to face the heart of their order, even if the Yankees tie or take a lead here.
darn
Chase April 3rd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
YankeesNMore, you’re not fooling anyone. You’re not a real Yankees fan.
You’re a psychotic person raging about how terrible the Yankees are. NOTHING is ever positive.
Nobody wants to hear from your negativity, which is why not a single soul reads your “blog” which looks like someone had a seizure while making it. It’s the worst thing I’ve seen Yankees related or anything website related.
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It’s a public message board. Everything I’ve said is accurate.
my only hope is that my death helps scientists everywhere confront the unknown peril of ants
Tyler – Okay, so you’re talking about currently, and not the whole body of work. Because when you consider the whole body of work, Alex is one of the best players and hitters of all time.
Thanks Betsy
Hamilton hit .359 last year. I don’t care what his splits were against rightys and leftys… Hitting, 359 as a full time player is elite.
Hughes ERA by month:
April – 2
May – 3.03
June – 5.17
July – 5.52
August – 4.22
August – 4.22
September – 4.85
Post Season – 6.32
Hughes was terrible outside the first two months.
His hot start last year was when he was lower in the lineup I thought…
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He also got some time in the first spot.
Batting 1st: .290 .412 .376 .789
Batting 2nd: .263 .317 .355 .672
Batting 7th: .370 .514 .444 .958
Batting 8th: .316 .427 .449 .876
Batting 9th: .243 .349 .348 .697
Ball is flying out of the park, only the 4th inning, and both starters sucking.
No reason to play for one run.
Our lineup is ridiculous.
Fitnesscenter For-Jeden April 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Tyler – Okay, so you’re talking about currently, and not the whole body of work. Because when you consider the whole body of work, Alex is one of the best players and hitters of all time.
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Yes I’m talking about currently. Really no reason to talk about the past right now.
Alex is definitely one of the best hitters of all time. I would never argue that. And I think he’s going to have a huge year this year.
here comes a change
“So Hughes did NOT have problems putting hitters away in the majority of his starts last year??? He did NOT regularly have a soaring pitch count early because of so many 20-pitch innings???”
did you expect him to be Roy Halladay at 23 in his first season of starting?….how about stopping the continual whinefest you post all day (or go back to your own blog) and realize that players aren’t perfect and that they do good things in addition to the deficiencies that you seem happy to point out..
damn i thought the ball was carrying in that part of the ballpark
A-Rod would have popped the first pitch if he didn’t try to pull it.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
His hot start last year was when he was lower in the lineup I thought…
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He also got some time in the first spot.
Batting 1st: .290 .412 .376 .789
Batting 2nd: .263 .317 .355 .672
Batting 7th: .370 .514 .444 .958
Batting 8th: .316 .427 .449 .876
Batting 9th: .243 .349 .348 .697
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So my only mistake was saying that he was better batting 9th. The stats prove he is better in the bottom of the order hitting 8th or 7th… just not 9th.
Hamilton hit .359 last year. I don’t care what his splits were against rightys and leftys… Hitting, 359 as a full time player is elite.
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You put Cabrera on the elite tier because he couldn’t be pitched to, you can pitch to Hamilton. He can be gotten out, specifically by lefty hitters. Last year he hit .400 vs righties .271 vs lefties. The year before he hit .268, the year before just .300.
He had an elite year, he isn’t an elite hitter. Or else you should be including A-rod in that conversation.
an ERA in the 4′s in the AL east isn’t terrible….sorry to disappoint.
Anytime, Pat M
So my only mistake was saying that he was better batting 9th. The stats prove he is better in the bottom of the order hitting 8th or 7th… just not 9th.
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The problem is he won’t be batting anything but 9th or 1st. So of those choices I pick first.
Here comes Bartolo!
Put Miguel in Arlington, or Yankee Stadium.
should have let hughes go 5. oh well
I would have tried to get one more inning out of Hughes.
Couldnt leave Hughes in against Cabrera again.
Looks like Gardy should be batting 7th.
Hughes has now equaled the number of times he didn’t go 5 innings all of last year. To say he did this the majority of the time last season is incorrect totally.
No, I think that was enough for Phil. If Jerkface is right about 37/40 FB being cutters, then perhaps his arm isn’t all that strong at this point. I wouldn’t have pushed it with him.
Colon’s stuff looks much better than Hughes’ stuff. Sure, he just allowed a hit, but he looks much better.
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
“So Hughes did NOT have problems putting hitters away in the majority of his starts last year??? He did NOT regularly have a soaring pitch count early because of so many 20-pitch innings???”
did you expect him to be Roy Halladay at 23 in his first season of starting?….
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Again, Blake… What did I say about Hughes that is NOT accurate?
He struggle most of last year… He struggled most of the previous year when working as a starter.
Today is nothing knew… He does this MOST of the time.
You previously said, that’s not true… I’m simply asking which part?
Its not spring training.
that’s gone
Just tuned into the game. Phil’s having a bit of a rough outing, not worried – it’s his first start of the season. It’ll be interesting to see how he gets though the rest of the game. Part of the maturation process and I’m glad as a Yankee fan to be witnessing it.
But the Yankee lineup . . . WOWSA!!! Right now Tex is on fire – you can’t pitch to the man!!! Who says he can’t hit in April lol? And Jorge with a 2-run home run and beats out a throw to make it to second? Love that! Everyone’s not always going to be hitting at the same time, but gotta love the Yankee offense. Even when they don’t score in an inning, they make the opposing pitcher work. Way to pick up your struggling starter!!
oy
Blake, to be fair, there were times that the Yankees left Phil in past 5 even when he was getting hit around………
Not a good debut for Colon.
Oh well, not much better results from the :
Hahaha don’t I feel stupid.
Ouch Colon, ouch.
That is not a good start to Bartolo’s Yankee career….
Not a good start there
Hey there might be something to this pitching problem huh?
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Hughes has now equaled the number of times he didn’t go 5 innings all of last year. To say he did this the majority of the time last season is incorrect totally.
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and he could have come out for the 5th. But since it’s early in the season no sense in pushing it.
In the long run, : will be better than Mitre.
at least bartolo struck out cabrera.
Nice sequence to Cabrera.
Oh baby Monsters inc 2!
Hughes and AJ are vital this season.
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Hughes has now equaled the number of times he didn’t go 5 innings all of last year. To say he did this the majority of the time last season is incorrect totally.
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What I said was he consistently had trouble putting people away last year… And he consistently had 20-pitch innings and soaring pitch counts early as a result.
Those are facts. And trying to twist and change the original point doesn’t change them.
Curse of Billy Crystal. Get him out of the booth.
the Yankees need a new stadium this is a joke
the Rangers can flat out rake… Take a 1-0 lead on Murphy’s homer.
Crystal is looking old.
If Billy Crystal does a Phil Rizzuto impression I’m burning his house down
And he consistently had 20-pitch innings and soaring pitch counts early as a result.
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He averaged under 20 pitches per inning, so either he consistently had low pitch innings to even it out or you’re full of it.
Sidenote: How much goddamn longer can they talk about 61* for?
Hughes averaged 6 innings per start. His first full year as a starter in the majors.
Not sure why Crystal is in the booth in a close game in the 5th inning. Crystal cost us those 2 runs.
Despite the start, Colon can still pitch.
an ERA in the 4?s in the AL east isn’t terrible….sorry to disappoint.
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For a number 4 or 5 starter that is acceptable, but for a person who is supposed to be our number 2/3 starter that is bad.
Hughes should have been traded when every team was coveting him. Now he’s just a functional 4 or 5 guy, and they grow on trees.
And Crystal just keeps talking. This worthless “bundle of sticks.” Rather than saying “Im gonna leave the booth so I dont cost the Yankees any more.”
Hollywood people and sports people are among the most superstitious people, too.
And Crystal just keeps talking. This worthless “bundle of sticks.” Rather than saying “Im gonna leave the booth so I dont cost the Yankees any more.”
Hollywood people and sports people are among the lmost superstitious people, too.
all in all, liking seeing how colon does for us…
seems like people forget hughes was coming back from 2 injuries before starting his first full season. this would be his 5th full season had he not gotten hurt in texas.
Wow. Again, not happy with the start, but Colon can pitch.
And I’m burning his house down.
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Hughes has now equaled the number of times he didn’t go 5 innings all of last year. To say he did this the majority of the time last season is incorrect totally.
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Of course, he wen’t exactly 5 or less FIVE TIMES in the second half ALONE last season.
Everything that plagued him today was a regular issue last season, too. This is nothing new.
Crystals funny. “you still married”?
“You previously said, that’s not true… I’m simply asking which part?”
you said this is who Hughes is…..as in he’s this bad all the time and was last year. That’s not anywhere close to true……it’s just your sensationalizing one start because you don’t know any better.
OK, game’s over now.
The Tigers radio announcers were saying how Hughes’ stuff was “very average.” He’s just not a top-flight starter. And he stunk quite a while last year, too.
Hughes is far from a lost cause. All he needs to do is mix all of his pitches. Like I said before he needs to throw his curve more and start using the change. I remember at the beginning of spring training Hughes made it a goal to use his changeup this season. But it seems like he is already abandoning the pitch.
Can we just all agree on this?
Pitching all-around sucks today.
mypalfish April 3rd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Hughes should have been traded when every team was coveting him. Now he’s just a functional 4 or 5 guy, and they grow on trees.
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Maybe not even that.
You usually want your “functional 4 or 5″ to at least eat innings. Hughes can’t even do that.
He’s the very definition of a 5-and-fly guy, and he will KILL the Yankees bullpen if given the chance to do so.
The one good thing with Hughes is we at least know he’s capable of being a DOMINANT short reliever… So there is some value there.
But as a starter… This is who he is. Today was a little worse than his normal start, but not a lot.
I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon .
Oh well . You can’t win them all .
Colon is not really a long man….more like a wide one, or a round one..
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
“You previously said, that’s not true… I’m simply asking which part?”
you said this is who Hughes is…..as in he’s this bad all the time and was last year. That’s not anywhere close to true……it’s just your sensationalizing one start because you don’t know any better.
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What I SAID was, this is who Hughes is, and THEN I laid out the exact things I was referencing…
Specifically, and for about the 20th time today, has big problems putting hitters away when ahead in the count and has big problems with soaring pitch counts early because of all the 20-pitch innings.
Now, AGAIN, WHICH of those things is NOT accurate?
swish got a break there.
POPO again
Jorge with another 2 run HR
Jorge helping out with the strategy to position Joba for the vulture win…
wow… DH is working wonders for Jorgie.
The old war horse…
Jorge settling in nicely to the DH position
He’s the very definition of a 5-and-fly guy
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Except he averages 6 innings per start.
jorge- a serious chance at the hall of fame
Echo . Romeo . Returns April 3rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon .
Oh well . You can’t win them all .
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This lineup is going to keep them in a lot of ball games. Posada can still get the old lumber through the zone.
JORGIE!!! BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!
Jorgie juiced another. LOL
Hip hip!
Posada
Wasnt someone saying Jorge is not a good DH this morning?
all i can say is i hope the wind dies down before mauer/morneau/kubel/thome get here tomorrow.
lauching pad 2.0
Jorge is going to be so much better of a hitter this year without taking the beating behind the plate all the time – Baseballs to the hand and mask.
“has big problems putting hitters away when ahead in the count and has big problems with soaring pitch counts early because of all the 20-pitch innings.”
explain that he averages less than 20 pitches per inning and averages 6 innings per start. I’m really moving on from this because I don’t really care what you think and you’re messing up my viewing of the game
Posada is going to have to get used to not being in the center of the game action as the DH, but as long as he can get used to it he is going to rake.
Because Posada always rakes.
Buchholz unsustainable HR on FB% from last year coming back down to earth in Texas. 2 HRs allowed so far.
Buttholz gives up another dinger
A-Rod will get a HR today. He got screwed by the wind so far.
DH can hit!
blake April 3rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
“has big problems putting hitters away when ahead in the count and has big problems with soaring pitch counts early because of all the 20-pitch innings.”
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Blake, the guy has a LOT of 20-pitch innings. I honestly can’t imagine there is anyone here who would debate that.
Are you saying Hughes does NOT have problems putting hitters away?
Are you saying Hughes does NOT have WAY too many 20-pitch innings?
What IS his average pitches per inning as a starter???
Clay Clubine has given up 2 HRs already? Wow
Delusional psychopath “YankeesNMore”: Just because YOU say “Everything I’ve said is accurate.” DOESN’T make it accurate.
Get help.
We need to pull this one out. How sweet would it be to have a 3 game lead over the Sux!
Who has more strikeouts so far this season ,
Granderson or Jackson ?
Chase April 3rd, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Delusional psychopath “YankeesNMore”: Just because YOU say “Everything I’ve said is accurate.” DOESN’T make it accurate.
Get help.
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Easy to attack the messanger, Chase… But I’m going to be as direct with you as I can by asking two yes or no questions.
1) Did Phil Hughes have problems putting hitters away most of last year?
2) Did Phil Hughes have too many 20-pitch innings last year?
Robertson or Joba pls?
First outing of the season and we get the typical LoHud bs…..
“Who has more strikeouts so far this season ,
Granderson or Jackson ?”
Jackson 5, Granderson 3
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Buchholz unsustainable HR on FB% from last year coming back down to earth in Texas. 2 HRs allowed so far.
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But Buchholz is perfect he can’t ever do any wrong
At some point, if they insist on keeping both in the rotation, the Yankees are going to HAVE to break up Phil Hughes and Ivan Nova or they are REALLY going to destroy their bullpen.
Pretty safe to say Colon isn’t on this team come July
Boinked again. We keep cutting the deficit, and then give it right back up. Unnecessary walk. And jerkoff Brett Gardner couldnt move Martin over from 2nd with no out.
hughes averaged 17 pitches per inning.
Still want Colon in the rotation. Like I said before it didn’t matter who won the 5th spot. They are both trash
How can they keep giving up runs with this offense
Christ
Hughes got killed by Cabera and Boesch.
Colon’s getting killed by everybody in the line up.
Colo can still pitch alright
yea BATTING PRACTICE
Why didn’t we see Robertson after the Jackson walk?
The problem is that Phil, today, had the same problems he had last year- exacerabated by his reduced velocity. Did he throw any changes? Not that that is a huge priority (though I think he needs to throw more and also fewer cutters). The curve is a bigger deal because that might still be a very good pitch for him while the change, as Phil admitted, is not going to be more than servicable. In any case, if he were a Moyer-like pitcher, the reduced velocity wouldn’t be a huge deal, but he’s not………..The Yankees need to hope that this won’t be a yearlong thing like it was with Verlander a few years ago.
And jerkoff Brett Gardner couldnt move Martin over from 2nd with no out.
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Would be stupid to play for 1 run in the 4th inning. With the way the ball is flying they should be hacking.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
hughes averaged 17 pitches per inning.
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And where did that rank among regular starting pitchers???
every inning is basically a mirror image of the prior. putting up runs and then a zero would go a long way towards winning this game but climbing within 1 and giving up 2 immediately makes it very difficult. Looks like we’re gonna need 12 to win this game.
Jerkface – I wasnt suggesting a bunt. I was suggesting putting the ball in play and not striking out. Choke up on the bat, put the ball in play and try to beat a ball out.
Colon is done.
Tigers will not be denied. Winning the series is not bad…..
Betsy April 3rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
The problem is that Phil, today, had the same problems he had last year
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I get yelled at when I say that.
I wasnt suggesting a bunt. I was suggesting putting the ball in play and not striking out. Choke up on the bat, put the ball in play and try to beat a ball out.]
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I would suggest Gardner try to hit a line drive.
That must be a long, lonely waddle.
Hitters must be like, “good grief, you need more?”
Or maybe colon isn’t a reliever.. Anyone thought of that?
YankeesNmore April 3rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
hughes averaged 17 pitches per inning.
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And where did that rank among regular starting pitchers???
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You do know that was his first full year as a ML starter right? Not everyone one Doc Gooden or Felix.
Jerkface – You cant guarantee a line drive. What you can do is give yourself a good chance to move the runner by putting the ball in play. You have very little chance of moving a runner over if you’re striking out.
The problem with hughes is the same way it always is. he can’t put batters away, he doesn’t have that put away pitch. He needs to find it, or he’s not gonna have a long career.
You cant guarantee a line drive. What you can do is give yourself a good chance to move the runner by putting the ball in play. You have very little chance of moving a runner over if you’re striking out.
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You also can’t guarantee moving the runner over either. A hitter should be looking to not make an out first.
igotid88 April 3rd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
YankeesNmore April 3rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
hughes averaged 17 pitches per inning.
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And where did that rank among regular starting pitchers???
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You do know that was his first full year as a ML starter right? Not everyone one Doc Gooden or Felix.
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SO did Hughes have issues with putting hitters away and too many 20-pitch innings last year or not???
gardner off to a good start…
jeter lead off, martin bat 2nd imo
YankeesNmore April 3rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Betsy April 3rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
The problem is that Phil, today, had the same problems he had last year
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I get yelled at when I say that.
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Cause that’s all you say he is as a pitcher. Come back and 5 years then if he still pitches like this then say it.
Jerkface I didn’t say it was a guarantee. I said you give yourself a “good chance.” FYI, I would have gladly taken a walk by Brett, but unfortunately, he was busy hacking at all 3 pitches.
well that was fast :/
Captain DP can’t show himself if Bret always gets out!
4 earned runs by Mr.Colon
good experiment.
Of course Colon is example A of how ST doesn’t mean anything once the real games begin
YankeesNmore April 3rd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
igotid88 April 3rd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
YankeesNmore April 3rd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
hughes averaged 17 pitches per inning.
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And where did that rank among regular starting pitchers???
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You do know that was his first full year as a ML starter right? Not everyone one Doc Gooden or Felix.
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SO did Hughes have issues with putting hitters away and too many 20-pitch innings last year or not??
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every yankee starter had that problem last year.
So Yankees are done if they can’t score 3 against Benoit and Valverde
if I ever needed a reason to never read a game thread again I got it today…
willwill April 3rd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
jeter lead off, martin bat 2nd imo
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Have you SEEN Derek Jeter “hit” the last year or so???
Or maybe he’s not a reliever?
FYI, I would have gladly taken a walk by Brett, but unfortunately, he was busy hacking at all 3 pitches.
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But you wanted him to hack, you just wanted him to succeed. He hits line drives and ground balls, so the chance of him doing what you wanted swinging away is high. He ended up not putting it in play, sucks but it happens.
Damn they have Carl Crawford batting 7th already
Still, if we lose, it’s hard to be upset with 2/3 games. The offense sure has no problems and I’m sure Colon will be better.
“I’m sure Colon will be better.”
oh really?
Harrison dominating the Sox.
5 scoreless, 7 Ks
This game is going to come down to last licks at bat
The key to the long season is winning series. Some of the things that showed up today aren’t good, but its only 1 game and the Yankees already have this series won.
I wouldn’t count them out yet though.
Put me on the list that likes Colon. It’s early but I think he will help barring an injury…
Jerkface – No, my first hope for Gardner would have been that he drew a walk. You’re right, the first priority of a hitter is to not “record an out.” The best way to do that is to eliminate luck out of the equation and draw a walk. BUT…seeing as how he was hacking away, it would have been nice if he had bothered to put the ball in play.
Yes, really…………
We rally right now!
Oh, awesome
Colon can put people away today with a 3 run deficit
yankees have 3 innings to put up 3 or 4 runs? i think that is very possible today…
i smell walk off
yankees have 3 innings to put up 3 or 4 runs? i think that is very possible today…
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Yeah, but they always have trouble with Benoit and Valverde
Napoli dinger!
3 Homers now vs C.B.
Sox going down. Napoli goes deep 3-0
I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon .
Oh well . You can’t win them all .
turns out alex can really hit
I have always disliked Coke. He’s a smug bas-ard.
At least the Red Sox, Rays, and Blue Jays are all losing too
LGY….Naps went deep ???? Oh boy here comes the Face
Yeah, but they always have trouble with Benoit and Valverde
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Valverde yes, but they hit benoit pretty well i think.
feel like tex and arod hit bombs off him last year.
swish……
Just a great piece and great AB from Swish there.
offense is very normal
Swish mayne
Put men on base and Coke will give up the long ball….
Pat
Centerfield blast.
“I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon”
lol
Can you stand that Valverde dance ?
Swisher having a good day. Stats this early in the season are going to be deceptive. I think Swisher went 1 for 6 with a bloop single the first 2 games, but he had 2 lineouts.
Oh hell yeah, Swisher
Nice shot by Swisher.
“I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon”
lol
lol
. Stats this early in the season are going to be deceptive
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It’s like playoff stats.
mel,
You channel surfing between the Yanks and Lakers?
If Granderson gets it done here, my hopes will be back up
Oh what an a hole Austin Jackson is. Granderson tagged that. Nice catch.
seeing some nice plays in the field.
Im getting tired of seeing every fuggin team make great defensive plays against us every year.
During the spring, Phil Hughes’ velocity hovered in the upper-80s. Pitching coach Larry Rothschild told ESPN New York before the game that there was concern.
“A little bit, yeah,” Rothschild said. “There is a history of it so you get a little bit less concerned. We’ll see how the season progresses.”
The Yankees say that Hughes’ velocity was down during spring last year and then it was fine during the season. It didn’t start out that way today.
He started out at mostly 89 and 90, in the first inning. He gave up a two-run homer on an 80-MPH slider to Miguel Cabrera.
In the third, Cabrera got him again, a three-run jack. This time, on an 88-MPH fastball.
Hughes’ final line was four innings, five runs (five earned) on five hits. He walked two and struck out one. He wasn’t good. He reached 91 once.
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....um=twitter
I don’t understand why Colon is in
routine play with a slow runner. needs to be made
You won’t see Tex miss a hop like that very often.
Jeter did good to get that ball, but looked like he rushed the throw.
You won’t see Tex miss a hop like that very often.
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He has saved the infielders a lot of errors. Its odd to see him miss one.
That one is on Tex….gave him a nice long hop and he just missed it.
I have a feeling our Yankees will give that run back right away .
Oh well . You can’t win them all .
Want to know why Jeter’s fielding percentage is always so high???
THAT was ruled a “hit.”
At least he makes up for his pathetic defense with countless rollers on the infield.
$56 million wasted.
You have to give credit to Girardi??? For starting his full complement of players 2 days in a row, 3 games into a season?
You have to give credit to Girardi??? For starting his full complement of players 2 days in a row, 3 games into a season?
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A lot of managers have already run out secondary lineups to get guys work.
bet we see jones for gardner next AB.
Joe Mauer already got his first day off in Minnesota…
Jerkface – Im aware. The Rangers left Andrus out of today’s lineup. I don’t agree with that. It’s the wrong move, unless we’re talking about a specific catcher.
Rothschild doesn’t exactly sound confident, but then what else can he say? All the Yanks can do is send Phil out there and hope it’s not a yearlong thing
so what happens if hughes turns out to be the Phloppy guy from the end of last year?
Regardless of how the final line will read, Colon was respectable today in my book. hughes line on the other hand will look better than how he actually pitched.
And you beat me to it with the “specific catcher.” Well, Mauer obviously was getting the day off because the Twins want him playing every game against us.
“A lot of managers have already run out secondary lineups to get guys work.”
Yeah, for example, the Red Sox most expensive position player JD Drew is apparently nothing more than a platoon guy
Was it last year that Tex had issues early with fielding hops?
this is what happens when you hang on to overhyped prospects. better off getting known quality in return.
Colon was not good, period.
Oh boy . The R*d S*x about to tie the game .
Yeah, for example, the Red Sox most expensive position player JD Drew is apparently nothing more than a platoon guy
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carl crawford says hi…. and begs someone to let him get a hit.
Gaudin running an ERA of 54 right now
BABIP correction time?
Eh, I didn’t think Colon was that bad. He did ok….gave up the homer right when he came in but after that he’s done pretty well .
I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon .
Oh well . You can’t win them all .
Yankeesnomore….Have you been cleared ( mentally sound ) to be walking the streets amongst the general population ?????
Betsy – if colon was”not good, period”, then how would you describe Hughes?
I have a feeling our Yankees are done scoring this afternoon . Oh well . You can’t win them all .
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Stop that
please
would PH Jones here for Gardner…..
Martin is a beast this series
I’ll be more than pleased with him even if he’s 2/3 this good for most of the year
You know what they say, when your winless and losing late, nobody you’d rather up than darnell mcdonald.
Carlo, have you read any of my posts? If you have, then you wouldn’t be asking that question.
Blake, he gave up 2 runs to extend the Tiger lead. I think Colon will be ok, but today he wasn’t good; it was up to the pen to hold the Tigers down.
“carl crawford says hi…. and begs someone to let him get a hit.”
Forgot about Crawford…so the Red Sox TWO most expensive players can’t hit against lefties.
would PH Jones here for Gardner…..
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righty on the mound
i still feel like gardner looks overmatched.
No Betsy, i haven’t read your posts.
Why no pinch hitter with Jones?
righty on the mound
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So? he is overmatched against these relievers.
i still feel like gardner looks overmatched.
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better than the guaranteed groundout or flyout to left from Jones
Gardner great a bat
WTF is Gardner doing up there??? He looks completely lost. Swinging out of his cleats for pitches 20 miles outside.
Gardner getting out of his game, I wonder if his new swing has him in a swing mode. Last year he was laying off that pitch.
Two outs for Benoit to make a mistake
Brett just lunging at pitches away….He doesn’t appear to be comfortable
So? he is overmatched against these relievers.
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Jones hits .200 vs righties and K’s 30% of the time, don’t think he would be any less.
Jeter also overmatched.
well Jeter gets a break there…. thank god.
shortened stride.
Captain Groundout!!
That could be absolutely huge. We have TEX now as the tying run.
Gardner is one of the players with the head cold that Burnett had, wonder if that has anything to do with it.
Wow, Jeter did not hit into a DP after all..
Thats NOT A STRIKE!!!
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Gardner is soooo overrated
Jeter has killed about 300 worms already this season..
Derek Jeter is AWESOME!
Can we please give him ANOTHER $56 million???
ON the positive side, I think the Yankees official scorer ruled that a triple for Jeter.
Could be, Jerkface. Nice to know. At least he’s gutting it out for the team at his own expense. Might be more helpful, though, if he took a seat until he recovers.
Nice stroke by Texeria, nice scoop by Jackson
Well, damnit
DocTodd April 3rd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Jeter has killed about 300 worms already this season..
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Every worn in New York was slaughtered by Jeter last year. Nothing left to kill.
. Found out that my cablevision promotional package is coming to an end and my bill will jump 45 dollars a month if I choose to keep my current package which includes YES
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Just tell them to extend the promotion.
A few things we’ve learned…
==Gardner is not a good leadoff man
==Jeter is truly over the hill
==Colon won’t be on the roster in a few months
==top of the order is a problem
==hughes is mediocre in every respect (velocity, command, ability to finish off hitters)
0-9 ahead of tex and arod…..
Let’s get Joba another win!
mypalfish – None of those things can be learned from a total of 1, 2, or 3 games.
YankeesNmore April 3rd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Want to know why Jeter’s fielding percentage is always so high???
THAT was ruled a “hit.”
At least he makes up for his pathetic defense with countless rollers on the infield.
$56 million wasted.
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Daisy Mae, Jeter will have more hits in April than you’ll have on that pathetic and juvenile site of yours all year long.
HR #4 off C.B.
Captain DP on the come up! Luckily Peralta Sucks
Joba gets the double play ball.
A few things we’ve learned…
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-The Yankees will lose every other game this season
-Hughes will not get another out and will be traded for Felix Hernandez
-Colon is the worst pitcher of all time
-Jeter will hit .210
up the middle and past a diving Jeter
It is like old times out there
If teams were smart, they would shift all of the outfielders to the infield when Jeter bats to prevent grounders from skipping through.The Jeter Shift,7 infielders, a pitcher and a catcher…
geez, Joba calmly put 2 men on
had a feeling today’s game would go like this
PastadivingJeter?
A few things we’ve learned…
==Gardner is not a good leadoff man
==Jeter is truly over the hill
==Colon won’t be on the roster in a few months
==top of the order is a problem
==hughes is mediocre in every respect (velocity, command, ability to finish off hitters)
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I would like to hear a few comments on this posters -post- Which of the things said are not true?
where was that?
I have a feeling watching Jeter may conjure up sad memories of the fading Willie Mays with the Mets..
how does CB Bucknor still have employment?
I prefer Captain DP. He sounds like a porn star
==Gardner is not a good leadoff man – Not True
==Jeter is truly over the hill – Pending
==Colon won’t be on the roster in a few months – Pending
==top of the order is a problem – Not True
==hughes is mediocre in every respect (velocity, command, ability to finish off hitters) – Not True
there.
cano losing faith in jeter?
Cano doesn’t trust Jeter to turn the DP.
“I have a feeling watching Jeter may conjure up sad memories of the fading Willie Mays with the Mets..”
Or when Hank Aaron returned to Milwaukee. It’s sad to watch. And to think the Yanks saw fit to give Jeter too much money for too many years, ugh.
Why does Kay keep talking about Valverde as if he cant be scored upon???
All that has to be done is the offense has to take pitches and be willing to take walks off that fat turd.
How often do the yanks score off of Valverde?
Game over.
Jerkface April 3rd, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Cano doesn’t trust Jeter to turn the DP.
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Beat me to the punch.
Great job by Cano. Can’t trust Jeter not to F that up. If it is AT ALL possible to do it yourself, leave Jeter out of it.
Yeah, but how awesome would it be to save this game and sweep with a walkoff?
joba is getting nothing from sucknor.
Jerkface
On the hughes point? I am a huge hughes fan, however he always has the same problem. He just can’t put people away, over and over every time it’s the same thing.
Gardner i don’t think should be 1st or 2nd. I would try Martin/Granderson in the 1-2 spot or granderson/swisher
Whenever I am down, I like to look at the head shot of Denys Reyes on mlb gamecast. always brightens my day. he barely fits in the square.
This fugging “bundle of sticks” with a key insurance rbi.
that run is on Jeter
Same old Joba. 3-2 slider.
Really, Joba?
Game over
damnit
Joba is just horrible sometimes.
joba had strike 3 twice there. had to put it down the middle or he wouldnt have gotten the call.
He just can’t put people away, over and over every time it’s the same thing.
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He had 146 punch outs. He obviously put people away. He threw so many fastballs last year that guys naturally fouled it off, but he still was able to be an effective pitcher.
Joba is useless
willwill April 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Jerkface
On the hughes point? I am a huge hughes fan, however he always has the same problem. He just can’t put people away, over and over every time it’s the same thing.
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That seems to be lost on many people here.
If you get to 3-2 on Joba Chamberlain and are NOT sitting slider, you are a moron.
This game was over when “The Genius” Joe Girardi left Colon in after Posada made it a 7-6 game. As he did during the second half of the year in 2010, he’s basically forfeiting the game and accepting the fact that they won two out of three. I seriously do not get it.
God, that’s so last-year for the Yankees
give up an RBI then get a dominant strikeout
Benoit + Valverde > Soriano + Rivera
Is -Matt- same as Matt from last year?
Joba got two DP balls that inning.
He pitched well.
If you get to 3-2 on Joba Chamberlain and are NOT sitting slider, you are a moron.
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You’d be a moron 50% of the time. (He threw fastball and slider equal amounts on 3-2 counts)
Ready for that Valverde Dance ?
Martin called the slider.
Orioles last to first—–Showalter magic-ole-ole……
Stupidity finally prevails….See ya later
Hughes went into this game with questions about his missing fastball. He is a fastball pitcher that simply must throw harder than his 89-90 today. Early last year when he had his success he was throwing 93-94 consistently. That declined in the second half and so didmhe.
Mechanical? Physical? I don’t know but some level of concern is appropriate.
Yankees have a .100 BAA and .406 OPS against Valverde during his career
How many balls has A-Rod crushed today?
Nothing to show for it.
I hate baseball.
should all be taking pitches.
Oh Christ, stop it with the smiley faces
I’m such a sore loser, but really
Nice job swinging on 2-0 down by three runs. Today simply reminded me of a second half game from 2010. Bad managing.
Early last year when he had his success he was throwing 93-94 consistently. That declined in the second half and so didmhe.
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Hughes velocity stayed the same throughout the year. Maybe the life diminished or fatigue caused him to struggle with command, but he averaged 92.4 first half, 92.5 second half.
A-rod is locked in.
This just drives me CRAZY!
You’re losing by THREE RUNS in the NINTH INNING, and the first two guys make outs swinging at 1-0 and 2-0 pitches, respectively.
Stupid baseball.
Matt – Im not actually happy, it’s meant for other purposes.
see what happens when you dont give away outs to valverde?
you walk!
Alex had some good swings today. Too bad he only got 1 hit out of it. But if he keeps it up. MVP type year
A-rod hit the ball right on the money, can’t complain about that.
So we just need Swisher, Posada, and Granderson to all score somehow
I would love to see a stat that shows WHICH pitcher gives up the most hits with 2 strikes…
I would love to see a stat that shows WHICH pitcher gives up the most hits with 2 strikes…
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The Yankees pitching staff last year struggled with 2 strikes and bottom of the order hitters. Opponents hit above league average in that count and from those spots.
valverde doesnt throw strikes….. dont give it away….
Yes, you can complain, Jerkface. When you’re down 3 runs in the 9th inning, the best thing Alex can do is try to draw a walk, especially against an erratic fat slug like Valverde.
why swing? why?
oh well…. one bright note that the ‘team of the century’ (2011 sox) are about to be 0-3.
In his career, Phil Hughes has a .189 BAA with 2 strikes (but a .276 BAbip)
Also damnit
game over
This could have been a VERY interesting inning had ARod and Cano not been up there trying to hit grand slams with nobody on.
Use some common sense!
Valverde was not throwing strikes and the middle of the Yankees order made it easy for him. Stupid baseball.
And even though Jorgie had 2 blasts on the day, he also should have had hit bat on his shoulders on 3-1.
The Yankees pitching was not good today, but even with the loss, they still won the series.
I’ll take that all season long.
shouldnt be swinging at valverde until two strikes (if he ever gets there)
Same old Hughes… and same old Joba
Did Posada swing 3-1 after a walk and not the tying run?
Game over and somehow the earth is still spinning on its axis.
The offfense is killing it, but obviously the story of the game is Phil……….. I don’t expect the pen to be this shoddy most of the time, but Phil is a huge key, so hopefully he’ll be ok.
Paps just pegged Kinsler.
Vintage Papelbon
YankeesnMore is right about his last couple posts. Surprisingly accurate.
Job of the hitters it to not record an out. Best way to do that is eliminate luck from the equation and take a walk from an erratic piece of crap like J.V.
For those that have Jurrjens on their fantasy team, he, too ha hit the DL.
P*mpl*b*tt ?
Why Posada swing at that 3-1 pitch? Even if he hits a HR it does not help.
The whole 9th inning was undesciplined by the Yankee batters.
Still, we took 2 out of three from a good ball club.
It is a good begining to the season.
For the Red Sox trolls here, enjoy your 0-3 start….
told ya the game was over.
and i hope everyone who heralded Joba a few days ago get a reality check. he threw slider after slider after slider then and got lucky when meatballs weren’t hit. that pitching pattern of his just won’t change.
Paps will not be the closer by the end of may, not with Jenks and Bard there.
that 9th inning stupid swinging when you need baserunners is no different from last season. this is not that good of a team, folks.
Not going to kill Po after the game he had – the offense did it’s job, the pitching did not
Fitnesscenter For-Jeden April 3rd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Yes, you can complain, Jerkface. When you’re down 3 runs in the 9th inning, the best thing Alex can do is try to draw a walk, especially against an erratic fat slug like Valverde.
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EXACTLY right!
And he probably swung at ball 2 on top of it, especially the Bucknor was calling the bottom of the zone.
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!
What’s ARod (and then Cano) gonna do??? Hit one to the moon??? At which point the Yankees will STILL be losing by two runs.
If you want something to cheer you up….Papelbon is getting hammered.
Hughes next start.. the Sox home opener on Friday
BBFan April 3rd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Why Posada swing at that 3-1 pitch? Even if he hits a HR it does not help.
The whole 9th inning was undesciplined by the Yankee batters.
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Exactly right.
silver lining – papelbon getting smacked around
Ouch, that will be interesting
Difference is, YankeesnMore, Im not going to insult Alex or Cano or any of our players. Yes, I called Hughesie and Gardy jerkoffs earlier, but that was just heat of the moment.
Papelbon rocking the infinite ERA
look…. game sucked but the yankees arent going 162-0 so be prepared to lose somewhere around 60-65 games.
ZMAN April 3rd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Hughes next start.. the Sox home opener on Friday
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If you want some free baseballs, just stand about three blocks behind the green monster.
Fran the original April 3rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
The Yankees pitching was not good today, but even with the loss, they still won the series.
I’ll take that all season long.
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Fran, where do you get off using common sense on here. Inexcusable.
Papelblown
Double, HBP, Double, Intentional walk
bases loaded no outs
Yea best closer in the league ok Boston tards
Pimplebutt imploding again….LOL.. Well, Sox can still go 159-3….
Fitnesscenter For-Jeden April 3rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Difference is, YankeesnMore, Im not going to insult Alex or Cano or any of our players. Yes, I called Hughesie and Gardy jerkoffs earlier, but that was just heat of the moment.
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So you’re not going to insult any of our players, except when you insult some of our players.
That seems reasonable.
Papelbon is a dominant shut down closer. Uhhhh …….. ya !
Predictions for Phil Hughes’s next start :
1 inning
4 hits
2 BB’s
5 runs
Phil needs to progress, not regress which he seems to be doing. He lacks that killer instinct with 2 strikes. Very disappointing!
Yanks did win the series, the hitting is there, the pitching will be okay…
Yanks on pace to score 1,242 runs and win 108 games.
Yanks scored enough runs to win, but apparently pitching sucked
Be interesting to see who closes for the Sux this year.
Of course they would actually have to be in a position to close out a game first. haha
LOL, YankeesnMore. I regret doing it, sometimes just get caught up in the moment.
paps doesnt turn it on until he gives up 4 hits.
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Fran the original April 3rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
The Yankees pitching was not good today, but even with the loss, they still won the series.
I’ll take that all season long.
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Fran, where do you get off using common sense on here. Inexcusable.
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GB,
Someone had to do it, since there are so few of us who do. Especially after a Yankees loss.
if phil has some sort of dead arm or something, need to deal with it NOW. Can bring up Banuelos….. Cannot go all year with Hughes throwing under 90 mph.
you really would have thought the Yankees just got swept today from reading through this thread.
Its fine. MN won and we lost. Off set some of he numbers and streaks that would’ve been heading into the start of the series with the Twins tomorrow.
No way either team was starting 7 and 0 or 0 and 7.
I do see 6 and 1 or 1 and 6 as a possibility. Can’t give up 10 runs and expect to win ever.
Nova needs to be sharp and then the big man gets the ball again on Tues.
You have to pitch through dead arm if that’s what it is.
GB….One thing I’ve come to understand about this place and the few other blogs I’ve visited is this…..Those who rag and complain and just spill negativity are those who most likely never picked up a bat, or a glove and are still truing to find out whether or not they throw right handed or left handed…..The real issue is now they’re increasing in numbers !!!!1
LMAO at David Murphy’s sunglasses while batting…looks like he should be at the beach
Anyone notice the Angels bullpen has blown late-inning leads to the Royals in three straight games?
Nova is a good match up for the Twins, a bunch of contact hitters that will put his sinker into play. If he keeps it down and the defense is alert he should be able to give a quality start.
Eager to see how his new slider looks, given that Hughes was not able to take his from spring into the majors.
What Fran the original said. The pitching for both teams was less than stellar today, Detroit’s staff was just a little less subpar. Offense has been VERY encouraging, especially Tex (!), Jorge and Russell Martin, which is bad news for the rest of the American league lol. As Ken Singleton has said, winning series is the goal, so this has been a very nice start to the season for our beloved Yankees. The Lohud game threads should be so good
Hope against hope we can avoid the tipping point into vitriolic negativity/irrational panic. Let’s go Yanks . . .
Blake, I don’t think it’s a dead arm – this velocity issue has been a problem all spring. He simply must improve his curve as well – did he throw any changes?
YankeesNmore -
I can not believe you are a Yankees fan. Not every player will perform well in every game or situation, but fans support the team, all you do on a consistant basis is run the team down, from the FO to individual players.
You must have been born perfect in every way, never had a bad day in your life, and been the most successful person in history, taken the manner in which you relish running people down.
Perhaps as a kid, every time you screwed up your parents took the time to scream at you, “You suck, that’s who and what you are, a failure, time for a change, we want a different kid.”
Braves sign Scott Proctor to minor league contract,reports are Proctor will now be attempting to pitch left-handed as his right arm was trashed by Joe Torre
Can’t get over how well Teixera is swinging the bat from the left side. That is an enormous development for the Yankees given the way Alex is also swinging it…..Cano hasn’t even got hot yet. Swisher also having good AB’s looking to go the other way and staying inside the ball…..this team is going to score a ton of runs this year.
did he throw any changes?
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3 or 4 , 10 curves, and 40 fastballs, 37 cutters. Tooo many cutters.
blake – Ill say this to you, since you the most reasonable person on this blog.
It’s very important to win as many games early this season with our lack of home games in the 2nd half.
Winning series is good. It’s not the end of the world that we lost today. It’s only 1 loss, 3 games into a season.
But the way Phil pitched was concerning, and the way our batters went down in the 9th against Erratic Valverde was not smart baseball.
the worries about hughes don’t just come from this horrendous start. he stunk for much of the season last year, as well.
he’s going to get rocked at Fenway…
Betsy,
Yea I don’t know what it is….just hasn’t built the arm strength yet, has some lingering affects from the big innings jump last year or what…..I’m still not overly concerned yet. If he looks like he did today after a couple more starts then you start to wonder what’s going on.
Jew Lowrie upset about a strike call.
Pat M. -
I think you are correct. This blog is not a place you can enjoy during games, for too many expect players to be machine like perfect.
Troops out on the mound didn’t fare too well. Hopefully the next start and relief stints will fare a bit better. Hughes has to be a concern to Joe, velocity is still down and the trend from the end of last year at least for one game is contining. Still early to tell, lets hope he gets it together for the Sox.
Fran the original April 3rd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
GreenBeret7 April 3rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Fran the original April 3rd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
The Yankees pitching was not good today, but even with the loss, they still won the series.
I’ll take that all season long.
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Fran, where do you get off using common sense on here. Inexcusable.
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GB,
Someone had to do it, since there are so few of us who do. Especially after a Yankees loss.
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Fran, it’s not a lot better after Yankee wins, either.
Hope all is going well with you and yours and everyone else that belong to the “Frozen Chosen” in the Great White North
lil m,
Well said at 4:44.
Red Sox fans, this 3 game sweep as been brought to you by Swiffer…………
Yea I don’t know what it is….just hasn’t built the arm strength yet, has some lingering affects from the big innings jump last year or what…..I’m still not overly concerned yet. If he looks like he did today after a couple more starts then you start to wonder what’s going on.
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I’d give it 4 starts before it becomes ‘worrying’. This time last year he was in Tampa facing minor leaguers. And his first start against the angels wasn’t great. It was after that he went on a tear.
“It’s very important to win as many games early this season with our lack of home games in the 2nd half. ”
can’t argue with you there. They do need to play well the first half if at all possible
It looks as though super prospect Jed Lowrie has gone from can’t miss status to miss…
GB,
All is well here. Thanks. Hope all is well with you.
Pat M. April 3rd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
GB….One thing I’ve come to understand about this place and the few other blogs I’ve visited is this…..Those who rag and complain and just spill negativity are those who most likely never picked up a bat, or a glove and are still truing to find out whether or not they throw right handed or left handed…..The real issue is now they’re increasing in numbers !!!!1
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Pat, if they did play, they were the players the team got stuck with. The ones that you let in the game to chase down lost baseballs. Not sure how these idiots could possibly enjoy a ballgame. Win, lose or draw, I always see something different….Whether it’s Mantle vs Billy Pierce or Mays vs Gibson or Colon vs Cabrera..
Jerkface,
That’s very true, they skipped him early last year so he had a little extra prep time. I’m just not going to freak out over 1 start…..he didn’t look good today, but most of the damage against him was done by probably the best hitter in the AL.
Just listening to the postgame show.
Girardi is not worried about Hughes’ velocity. Said it can take a power pitcher a while to get the velocity up to where it should be.
Jerkface, the amt of cutters can’t be correct; if it is, perhaps Phil feels there is something up with his arm. That’s not enough changes – 3 or 4 – but the curve is the pitch that really needs to be fixed. Thanks for the breakdown!
Blake, Tex is really unbelievable right now; this lineup is going to rake. I’m so loving Martin – in all respects.
As to Phil, if he had better secondary pitches, it wouldn’t be such a big deal (though it still would be a big deal), but he doesn’t, so now it’s a huge deal. Joe just said that some power pitchers (which is true) take awhile to warm up to their best, but we’re not seeing Phil throw 91-93. He’s throwing 88-90 or 91 -that’s just pretty severe drop in velocity. It is too early to panic, of course, but it’s something to keep an eye on.
The biggest problem might be the lack of life on the FB, not just the velocity
Of evereyting that has been posted today about the Hughes outing most failed to address the bottom line reason for his poor performance….The bottom line was his poor command ….No one pitch to fall back on, as he ham & egged his way around, and that doesn’t go very well when dealing with a Miguel Cabbrea……He had more feww passes than k’s……This game is in the books and you move on, that’s baseball
the life comes from arm speed and with the way the ball is released…..neither that nor the velocity was there today for whatever reason. We’ll see how he looks next time out.
Phil will be on YES in a few……….
Thank you, fran. yeah all is well here, too….except for this silly dog and the twins. He’s dragging them around the house by the seat of their pants. Their momma will love the new color of their white clothes.
Phil was pretty horrible. It will get better. It has to.
That said, I didn’t love watching him go out there with an inability to put hitters away. If he’s going to be a pitch to contact type pitcher, he’s going to have a lot of days like today.
As for our offense, the balls are jumping off our bats. The guys look great. Pitching lost todays game. End of story.
This will be the topic du jour on sports radio, or it would be if Butler/Uconn weren’t playing tomorrow. If the Knicks lose to the Cavs again today, that might be the biggest story, lol
Jerkface,
I don’t doubt your velocity stats, but do feel confident he threw harder in his first half dozen games. If I am wrong, I will look for memory enhancing vitamins. Are their game by game velocities?
Jerkface, the amt of cutters can’t be correct; if it is, perhaps Phil feels there is something up with his arm.
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The difference between the cutter and the fastball is the grip, he isn’t going to throw a lot of cutters because of an arm injury. It was either a game plan that the yankees came up with and Hughes failed to execute, or Martin thought they could get an advantage, or Hughes wasn’t confident in his fastball.
Every hit today off Hughes was off the cutter, except for 1 off the curve. His fastball had a very high PFX value which means it was ‘rising’ despite the low velocity, would have suppressed HRs as the hitters got just underneath it.
Remember that Phil started throwing bullpens early – would that have an effect?
Joba threw the ball well again.
Hughes pitches 1 game, and is hit hard, so let’s all tear him apart, and over analyze each and every pitch, how much did his curve ball break, how fast was his FB, how many change-ups did he throw, how many should he have thrown. When the blog is done with its findings, we can send them to Rothchild so he can straighten Phil out before his next start.
The Yankees didn’t need to hire a pitching coach, there are several on this blog that have all the answers, and would be more than willing to help get Phil, or whomever, back on track.
Phil to the pen,Joba to the rotation…..just kidding…
Jerkface, if that’s the case, then I wonder why he’d have no confidence in his FB? He loves his FB, lol. If it was the gameplan, then it’s a really, really bad idea.
He still got a lot of lot swings on his 4 seamer today despite it being 89-91. He got burned on that flat slider that he left up and out over the plate…..and as Pat M said, his command wasn’t as good as usual.
a world of difference between Hughes’ evaluations of his pitches and Scherzer’s, who thought he threw good pitches…and except for those for, maybe he did.
I don’t doubt your velocity stats, but do feel confident he threw harder in his first half dozen games. If I am wrong, I will look for memory enhancing vitamins. Are their game by game velocities?
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Yes, you can look at velocity charts on fangraphs or use like brooks baseball pitch fx to check the individual ones. In BB-ref the pitch count in the gamelog actually links to brooks baseball.
Here is his velocity avg by start
92
92.5
92
92.6
94
92.9
92.5
91.5
92.4
92.7
92
92.1
92.5
92.2
93.7
92.2
91.9
93.1
92.1
91.6
94.3
91.3
93.7
92.3
91.4
93.2
92.5
91.8
those ***four***, maybe he did
I don’t care what anybody says, Gardner stinks and doesn’t belong in a Yankee lineup. He looked today like he did during 09 series, completely overmatched.
Yes I like his ability to get to balls in the OF and his base stealing potential but when I think of the Yankees I don’t think of guy like Gardy in their lineup.
He couldn’t pull a pitch when he needed to and can’t get around on a fastball.
We have no other options for now so expect this type of hitting out of him all year.
Would love to see him packaged with a young pitcher for an Upton type.
Hi Pat M. –
Well, it’s been too many years since I tried playing (I know my limitations), but I do know – oh too well! – the pains of trying at something and failing. You just have to pick yourself up and try again. That’s what’s called “life”.
Phil didn’t have a good fastball, it seemed, and not good control. That will kill you everytime. All this talk about his velocity – Joe was asked about it yet again in his postgame conference – I’m not sure what to make of it, this early in the season. I know you weren’t a pitcher, but do you have any thoughts on this?
Gardner had a bad game….it happens. You don’t make decisions on 3 games.
5-2 after the Minnesota series would be a very strong start. Would be extremely happy with that record heading to Boston.
“5-2 after the Minnesota series would be a very strong start. Would be extremely happy with that record heading to Boston.”
the twins series is a 4 gamer….I’ll take 6-2
actually am a moron and can’t add.
Doc Joe…….My thoughts on this…..Not to worry……Off to the gym for my workouts……
blake – I know it’s only the first weekend – but you have to wonder – the Red Sox played poorly for the latter part of the ST schedule, and now play badly in getting swept by Texas. Is Crawford being pushed down to 7th a sign of some early frustration? Even Jack Curry was wondering about that move.
Tampa not only lost their series, 0-3, but lost Longoria for at least 15 games. This will really test their offense, and we’ll see how capable Damon and Manny are of stepping up. Not much else there in that lineup.
We’ll see Nova tomorrow, and see if he can carry over from his spring.
In Hughes’ first start on April 15th last year he averaged 92 on his heater and topped out at 94.
Today he averaged 89 and topped out at 91.
I believe he is slated to pitch on April 14th vs Baltimore. That would be about the time to start worrying if his velo is still down.
All right . I will say it .
Phil Hughes is a POWER pitcher .
L . o . l .
the following quotes are from the comments section of a well knows Red Sox blog:
-”This team will get swept by Cleveland, too. They’re awful and this game is all over.”
-”Wow. The Yankees lineup puts this team’s lineup to shame.
And A-Rod has been getting very unlucky, hate it to say… he should have at least 2 more home runs by now that were robbed by wind/frigid weather.
Nobody is hitting for power on our Sox”
the panic isn’t only here apparently….
Two things we should have learned today:
-The Yankees won’t go 162-0
-the bridgejumpers and whiners still premeate the game threads.
Everything else listed on here under similar topics is complete bs, it’s one game out of 162.
L . o . l .
L . o . l .
Joe,
I think the Sox will be ok….they aren’t as good as the media was projecting but they never were going to be. They are still one of the better teams in baseball I think….but yea I did think it was a curious move to move Crawford after only 2 games.
The Rays? I like their rotation but I don’t think it can be overlooked what they lost….they lost their entire bullpen, a quality starter (Garza), and their 2nd best position player. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they finish 4th in the division…..
The Rays have lost their best hitter for a minimum of 2 weeks and last time Longoria got injured he came back too soon because they needed him and stank for an extra 2 weeks after coming off the DL.
Rays are going to be scrapping to stay with the top of the pack..
other than Price….I think the Jays rotation is comparable to the Rays and they are much better offensively.
Too bad the Yankees don’t get to play the Rays while Longoria is out…they don’t see TB until mid-May
Jerkface,
It looks as if I am off to the pharmacy. Thanks.
Ruby giggling like the village idiot she is.
“they lost their entire bullpen, a quality starter (Garza), and their 2nd best position player”
Also Pena and Bartlett
Have a good day folks.
Not a good start to the season for our friend Javy Vazquez.
2.1 innings, 7 runs (4 earned), 5 BB
Poor Javy….he might just be done.
After his stinker of a season last year, I hope Javy is done. Id be enraged if that weasel pitched well this year, even if it is in the National League.
blake – I think he is. thought that last year. he’s got a lot of miles on that arm.
how many home games vs road games do the Yanks have after the all-star break?
is it that bad?
Only 29 home games after the break.
Never seen a schedule so crazy.
BD, it’s bad……….and they have 2 WC trips plus a trip to Fenway.
“Would love to see him packaged with a young pitcher for an Upton type.”
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You think Brett Gardner stinks and has “no place in the Yankee lineup,” but then you turn around and expect to package him with a young pitcher to get an “Upton type.”
Huh?
Truth is, Gardner may be the most attractive commodity the Yankees have on their major league roster to other teams in a trade.
41 games on the road.
Jerkface, how many games do they play after the ASB?
Wow, they play 12 more road games? I know good teams have to overcome, but that’s a ridiculous schedule.
34 at home 47 on the road in the ‘second half’ (second 81 games)
That’s why it’s essential to get as many wins as possible before the ASB. I know the Yankees are great and more than capable of winning series on the road, but that’s a difficult after ASB schedule.
34/47 is pretty lopsided.
I think it’s fair to say the Yanks should be over .600 ball in the first half.
Yanks were 52-29 at home and only 43-38 on the road last year.
The Yankees were even better at home in 2009 (11 games better)
Cleveland lost 2 of 3 to the White Sox and now prepare to face the Lite Socks. Beckett is breathing fire and so is Dunce-K.
so has Derek’s inability to get balls out of the infield against pitching that the rest of the Yankee lineup destroyed been discussed yet? he needs to be batting 8th
Just walked in and looked at the scores. No idea of who did what in our game but I see runs were scored. So now I take great heart in seeing that the Sux got punished again.
Their vaunted rotation thus far has sucked the way it did in ST. Not suprised though of course you can’t take anything from ST!!!
Quite pleased.
Now I’ll check out the posts and read up on our game. Hope Hughes did well. If not, I will say that 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. Things could be worse. You could be Lester, Lackey and Bucholz.
Crawford will be batting .600 by the time he’s done feasting on the pathetic Infians…
tampayank….earlier we were discussing on the forum Jeter’s tendency to murder worms who reside just beneath the topsoil of the well groomed YS infield grass…
so how long do the yanks give jeter to start hitting before they contemplate moving him down in the order? when age hits, it can hit hard and be very unpleasant to watch.
so has Derek’s inability to get balls out of the infield against pitching that the rest of the Yankee lineup destroyed been discussed yet? he needs to be batting 8th
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Jerkface is monitoring the situation.
You mean the Indians that beat the White Sox today 7-1? Those Indians?
I think I’ll take the potential under on this one and say the Sux continue to suck and Crawford follow suit.
Holy lord, the Orioles completed the sweep.
Good on ya O’s.
“# DocTodd April 3rd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
tampayank….earlier we were discussing on the forum Jeter’s tendency to murder worms who reside just beneath the topsoil of the well groomed YS infield grass…
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yeah was out for most of the game so just checking
“# trisha – true pinstriped blue April 3rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Holy lord, the Orioles completed the sweep.
Good on ya O’s.
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scott van pelt must be proud
Jeter looked better than Gardner today at the plate….its 3 games, how bout we give it at least a week.
Bad game, but good signs. Bats are alive.
TB and Sox are both winless. Toronto lost, too.
Ooh. Someone has to climb up and put the Orioles flag in first place. But Kay said he does it, so that’s good.
We took the series.
Jerkface said that Gardner is suffering from the same head cold as AJ Burnett. Gardy will be fine.
3 games and already some call for : a new lineup, dumping of Hughes, say Martin is a HOF’er, Joba still sucks, Gardner shouldn’t even be on the team, etc.
Yankee fans ???
This is gonna be a tough A.L. and even tougher east div. season.
Yankee brass will do all they can to be there at the end. PERIOD !!!
I think Gardner will also be fine….I don’t form opinions on one series.
Royals sweep Angels
Blake-
You don’t ?
What’s wrong with you ?
A few at bats should tell you all you need to
know to predict an entire season.
C’mon Man get with it.
Sunday night baseball tonight with no Joe Morgan and Jon Miller…..im not sad about it but it will be a little weird. I liked Miller….
MTU,
I guess im just out of the loop.
Mattingly released from contract.
“The Indians also released a former high pick according to this report from the AP (via ESPN), cutting ties with Preston Mattingly. The son of former AL MVP and current Dodgers manager Don Mattingly, Preston was drafted 31st overall by the Dodgers in 2006. The Indians acquired him in a minor league trade on Sept. 26 this past season.
The high school shortstop signed a $1MM bonus out of the draft, but has since been converted to an outfielder and tallied just a .232/.275/.334 line through 1,667 minor league plate appearances. At the time, Baseball America described him as a “well-kept secret … with bat speed, pop and an advanced approach.”
Blake, my opinion though stronger today than usual, isn’t formed by 1 game or 1 series.
I have always been an anti Gardner guy and would much rather have Melky out there though thats not my first preference. I wanted Holiday badly last year and Crawford this year. That said I know you can’t have an all star at every position or have a 300mm payroll.
I’m just tired of seeing little flares to left and hoping he can dink one in where nobodys positioned. I want a corner outfielder who can drive the ball and we don’t have that in Gardner.
It will stay that way this season and maybe next year we go in another direction. I just hope he doesn’t lose his value as it appears that some teams were interested in him as their CF.
Miller’s another in the long line of Red Sox honks. He wont be missed by me
Angels won ONE of 4 ! Sorry !
I can’t understand Holliday but Melky?
Is Performing Orel on the Sunday Night crew now?
Oops, I meant….. is Orel Performing on the Sunday Night Crew now?
Yes I think so….him Valentine and Shulman I believe.
That’s terrific. Shulman, Orel = Red Sox honks. Valentine = drunk, laughing hyena
Cant wait to hear him performing Orel on the Red Sox next Sunday night :/
Geeze Louise, I was so excited about the Sux loss and seeing that the Yankees seemed to have at least made it a game that it totally escaped me that the lohud gametime blog may have been a painful site to be at.
I think I will save myself the drama. If anyone called for anything today other than patience and understanding, I will suggest that you need some kind of help with whatever problems plague your personality and that you might do well either enrolling in an anger manangement classs (if anger was your issue) or taking some kind of anxiety pill before each game. Spinning out of control on any Yankee player, 2 wins out of 3 into the season and in a high-scoring game, indicates that you do not have the equilibrium, judgement, or self control needed to intelligently participate on the topic of baseball nor to co-exist on a forum with other people who do have the ability to perceive and deal with the global reality that one needs to apply to a snapshot in time.
JMO of course.
Hughes is never going to be as good as he should or could be til he learns how to incorporate offspeed pitches effectively.
He is to predictable just firing fastball after fastball.
Mo has the best cutter ever but if he became a starting pitcher & tried to use it only,the league would eventually start hitting it.
Hughes scares the crap out of me because of him not being able to develope offspeed pitches yet,especially the changeup wich is probably the most pitcher friendly pitch .
More & more pitchers are using the changeup because it is easy on the arm & is an amazingly effective weapon.
Angels won ONE of 4 ! Sorry !
Reading Halo boards, you would definitely think they were swept … panic in paradise
Good morning, morning people.
Most days 7 runs will get the Yankees a win. Sometimes you have a bad day, I guess. Obviously I did not and will not read back, but did I read a post that said people want to change the batting order? Seems to me that the hitting has been just fine and Hughes got hurt by one of the best hitters in the AL.
Not going to start worrying three games into the season and certainly not going to expect the Yankees to win every game or to lose pretty in the games they lose.