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Minor league rosters coming together

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Minor League Teams on Apr 05, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

For the most part, minor league rosters aren’t finalized until the last minute. The Yankees four full-season teams get started on Thursday, so we might not have official minor league rosters until then.

But the groups are starting to come together.

Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
According to Donnie Collins, the Triple-A rotation is set with David Phelps, Hector Noesi, Adam Warren, D.J. Mitchell and Andrew Brackman. In that order.  That’s pretty much as expected. I went into spring training thinking Warren might go back to Trenton — only because he didn’t have a lot of starts there last year — but it seemed pretty clear within a few days of camp that he was going to Scranton.

The rest of the early Scranton roster is similarly predictable. Donnie’s latest list has 27 players assigned to Triple-A, and that will be trimmed to 24 before the opener.

Trenton
Muuch like Scranton, Josh Norris reports that the Double-A rotation has been set with Manny Banuelos, Dellin Betances, Graham Stoneburner, Shaeffer Hall and Steve Garrison, not necessarily in that order. Enjoy that group, Trenton. They might not be there long.

Norris also has a rough Double-A roster that will have to be tweaked before the opener. Brad Suttle is not listed, but that seems to be nothing more than a typo. Mark Newman confirmed this morning that Suttle is definitely still with the organization, and unless Suttle is hurt, Double-A is the most logical place for him.

Tampa
It seems contrary to what you might expect, but Tampa is always the last roster to go public. There’s no one who really covers that team — that I know of, anyway — so the information is slow to arrive.

Charleston
The team released an official roster, one that includes Gary Sanchez, Slade Heathcott, J.R. Murphy, Ramon Flores, Anderson Feliz and Tommy Kahnle.

The most notable players left off the Charleston roster are from last year’s draft. Third-round pick Rob Segedin is the highest pick from last year’s draft on the Charleston roster. Newman confirmed that first-round pick Cito Culver will open in extended spring, and it looks like Angelo Gumbs and Mason Williams will be in extended as well. The Yankees took a similar approach with Heathcott last season.

Released
Baseball America  has the end-of-camp cuts: RHP Ryan Acosta, RHP Philip Bartleski, RHP Bryant Cotton, RHP Joel Marte, RHP Ben Watkins, LHP Sam Elam, LHP Trenton Lare, C Kyle Perkins, 1B Nick Ebert, 2B Ronnie Belliard, 2B Justin Snyder, OF Isaiah Brown

Newman said this morning that no one else has been released since minor league camp broke on Sunday.

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216 Responses to “Minor league rosters coming together”

  1. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    “What I wrote was a factual assessment of Joba’s journey.”

    Absent a point.

  2. Erin April 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    well, look who else is on Twitter:

    YankeesPR Had a couple people ask; give a warm Twitter welcome to our All-Star/Gold Glove Award-winning First Baseman @teixeiramark25

    :)

  3. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    lol @ Stuckey.

  4. UnKnown April 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Man I hope Russel with the Muscle can stay healthy. Love that addition.

  5. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    As I have said many times before we have developed a logjam of pitching talent at the upper levels of the minors.

    And while depth is good, unless attrition takes it’s toll, many of these guys are going to have to be traded by the end of this year.

    Should be interesting to see how things sort themselves out and what might come back in return.

  6. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    jnorris427 Josh Norris
    Talked to people this AM. Suttle is with Thunder. Reason he wasn’t on roster can be blamed on the evils of modern technology.

  7. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Was reading on the Scranton blog last night how unusual it is for AAA rotation to have 5 young, legit prospects of some level, as opposed to organizational depth and rehabbing veteran types.

    Add to it the AA guys and we’ll pretty much have the results of a true high-level pitching prospect to pour over every night.

  8. Patrick April 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    KC won’t be winning anytime soon

    Depends on your definition of soon…

  9. The Mets are Pond Scum April 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    I know he never really had a chance but I couldn’t help but root for Justin Snyder.

  10. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    By July, any starting pitching issues the Yankees may have could very well be solved from within the organization.

    Especially if the offense and bullpen are as good as they have shown in the first four games.

  11. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    And what about what might wait behind them:

    DePaula
    Marshall
    Mitchell
    Ramirez

    Not too shabby.

    ;)

  12. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    SJ-

    Having 2 guys like Soriano and Mo to close out games almost seems unfair.

    :)

  13. The Mets are Pond Scum April 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    By showing some restraint, Cashman is also going to have the option in July of taking on some unwanted contracts of starters from teams that aren’t fulfilling preseason expectations (see Bobby Abreu et al).

    The only risk is hanging in until July which I think is a solid risk to take.

  14. fiveironfromfenway April 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    MTU – right on about the younger guys in the system as well.
    DePaula needs to get his visa worked out.
    The Yankees also signed a really high ceiling talent out of the Dominican contingent on his obtaining a visa.
    Cashman and Co. should probably consider sending some money the immigration officials way to get these guys to the states and into the system.

  15. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    The point Stuckey is I think Joba is overrated. That’s my opinion, you are certainly entitled to yours. I absolutely would love to be wrong on this.

  16. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Five-

    Absolutely. Pay the “mordida” and get it done.

    I forgot about that other one.

  17. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    SJ

    What do you think the odds are for a couple of the B’s being traded to Mariners for Felix?

  18. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    MILB’s AA Eastern League’s top 10 to watch. Banuelos and Betances are #2 and #3. Tony Sanchez is #8.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....;fext=.jsp

  19. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Ray-

    I hope that doesn’t include Banuelos.

    He’s a keeper.

    :)

  20. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    WCYF

    Joba is what he is! Great raw talent! If he puts it together the sky is the limit. Really! Mentorship from Mo is a huge plus IMO. Everyone develops & re-develops in their own time schedule.

  21. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    GB-

    Banuelos = #1. Don’t thank me. I fixed that for ya’

    :)

  22. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    I understand, just wanted to get SJ’s opinion.

  23. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Unless Bryan Mitchell is starting in Tampa (not likely), it looks like extended ST is his location.

  24. Vineyard Yankee April 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    MTU:

    I have posted the question here a couple of times, do you or does anyone know where DePaula will start out at ? (Level wise that is)

  25. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Ray-

    Pardon my budding in then.

  26. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    RayVT I hope that’s true. If he puts it together.

  27. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    VY-

    I don’t. That would be something that GB, SJ or others would have a better feel for. Sorry.

  28. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    GB-

    You might have a few really good arms to watch at Charleston this season.

  29. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    WCYF,

    If you don’t think Chamberlain is or can be an effective 7th inning bridge, or don’t think he has a future as closer or even 8th inning set-up guy, that’s fair and there is certainly room for discussion.

    But the “how the mighty have fallen” thing is just small and petty, and even worse, tired.

    I, however, do not question your entitlement to be small, petty and tired, and I assume you don’t question my entitlement to say so.

  30. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    MTU, looks like they just put the players to watch in alphabetical order with no thought to talent level.

  31. randy l. April 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    sj44-

    i think an interesting thing happened because of the perceived weakness in the starting rotation after not getting lee. i think cashman and the rest of the brain trust looked at everything else they could do and they strengthened those areas.

    russell martin could be really good. i’m impressed with his thought process with pitchers. he’s really into bringing out the best in each pitcher and is into each pitch. having soriano is huge.the veteran starters added in garcia and colon and andrew jones and chavez for depth only helps even more.

    i like the cumulative effect of all the small things done to make up for not getting lee. yeah, there’ll be bumps in the road, but this to me is looking like a good year developing.

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    The difference Stuckey is that my assessment was true. He was lauded as a starter, he failed, he was lauded as the 8th inning bridge to Mo, he failed.

    By the way, please don’t put words in my mouth. I never said Joba can’t be an effective 7th inning relief pitcher did I?

  33. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    GB-

    Must be Newman staring into his Campbell’s alphabet soup again.

    Oh well. I can think of worse things.

    :)

  34. blake April 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Joba is in the big leagues contributing…..craig hansen isnt

  35. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Randy-

    Don’t go all optimistic on us.

    That would be a really dangerous reverse barometer.

    :)

  36. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Sorry! I certainly didn’t mean it that way!! I am just curious because I too think Banuelos is going to be a stud!

  37. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Randy-

    Almost like as if GB suddenly started to spell or type well.

    I’d be worried.

    ;)

  38. Mujlou April 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    The Trenton Thunder web site has posted the roster which can be download as a pdf file.
    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....p?sid=t567

  39. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Ray,

    I think there is no chance Felix is traded this season.

  40. Irreverent Discourse April 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    WCYF – There is no difference between the 7th or 8th inning for joba. The only failure in joba’s timeline is the unrealistic expectations put on him by fans and the media.

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock April 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Odds, I’m in & out here but you’re probably right about KC, though take a look they’ve gotten the ball to Soria 3x now & are 3-1. Nice start for that club, even though they lack the SP to hang around. Loads of talent down the road though, obviously so the fans have something to cheer right now & can look to the future when the team fades.

    As for Joba, we’ll keep our covert plans on schedule ;).

  42. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    LOL!

  43. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Thanks SJ!

  44. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    BTW Good Luck to UM this year except when they play VT! LOL! I think UM is on the verge of being great again!

  45. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Ray-

    I don’t normally do predictions but I’ve made an exception for Manny.

    I think he will be one of the most watched and talked about young pitchers in the Minors this year, and I expect him to be rated as within the top 10, if not 5, best prospects by season’s end.

    Think he can’t do it ? just watch.

    All he has to do is stay healthy IMO.

    The kid is a prodigy.

  46. randy l. April 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    “Don’t go all optimistic on us.

    That would be a really dangerous reverse barometer.”

    mtu-

    i like to zig when people think i’m going to zag.

    it makes it hard to keep the red dot on me :)

  47. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    ID – If Joba was a dominating 8th inning guy they would not have had to spend what they did on Soriano. Interestingly enough, I had no unrealistic expectations for Joba.

  48. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I totally agree! It is an exciting time to be a Yankee fan with the mixture of youth and stars.

  49. Crawdaddy April 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Mitchell is in EST.

  50. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    “The difference Stuckey is that my assessment was true. He was lauded as a starter, he failed, he was lauded as the 8th inning bridge to Mo, he failed. ”

    I’m not arguing its veracity (not that I agree, I just have no interest in arguing the years-old topic again), I’m questioning its relevancy.

    People can use “facts” in small, petty ways.

    Is there a point to posting reminders that Chamberlain was once regarded as a future stud starter now 2 years after the fact?

    If so, explain to me what it is, again, keeping in mind I’m not questioning your right to do so.

  51. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Randy-

    I understand. I have used Zig Zag for years. And after I’m done with mine I could care less about the red dot, or most anything else for that matter.

    Except for food and … .

    :)

  52. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    randy l. April 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    I always thought you call them as you see them! I agree it is a potentially great year in store for the 2011 Yankees. Of course there will be ship jumpers along the way! LOL! Especially if Beantown wins a few.

  53. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    “If Joba was a dominating 8th inning guy they would not have had to spend what they did on Soriano.”

    How did the Soriano expense negatively effect the rest of the roster? What free agent did the Yankees get outpriced on?

  54. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    With pitching it is basically a month to month thing! In how well you did the last month or not.

  55. blake April 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Let’s let go of what Joba has or hasn’t done in the past….he’s throwing well right now and can help the 2011 Yankees a great deal if he keeps it up.

  56. Irreverent Discourse April 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Derek Jeter has abandoned some of the changes he made this spring in his plate approach.
    Yankees hitting coach Kevin Long tried to help Jeter reduce his front-foot stride this spring, but the veteran shortstop hasn’t felt comfortable at the plate and decided to abandon the new approach Monday. “I just said the heck with it,” Jeter said. “I wasn’t going to think about it. Before you’re trying to think about where your foot is and you’re trying not to move it, and it’s just too much to think about.” He is 2-for-14 with an RBI and three runs scored. Apr 5, 11:56 AM
    Source: ESPN New York

  57. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Because Stuckey, this is a forum for discussions about the Yankees and their players and Joba is as talked about here as anyone. He is in the news again after Girardi came out and said he was now the official 7th inning guy. It struck me as ironic given his history, that’s all.

    Regarding small and petty in my opinion, that’s subjective rhetoric, noting I said nothing to you in the same vein. I’d rather debate the merits if that’s ok with you.

  58. Vineyard Yankee April 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    MTU:

    Thanks for the response.

    ==================

    Kind of sad to see Igawa’s name on the AA Trenton roster, the guy can’t even languish at AAA Scranton ? A $ 45 million dollar project that didn’t work out. Thank goodness the Yankees can absorb financial hits like that.

  59. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Well that was quick

  60. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Irreverent Discourse April 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    I personally thought not moving his front foot was stupid! It made no sense to me & it tied him up on inside pitches. I suspect a little less jump would help him. I wonder if there is some bounce in his vision that is causing an issue. When I hit 35 I noticed a slight bounce in my vision especially batting & chasing flyballs. LOL! I have/had a high leg kick when I batted.

  61. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Vineyard Yankee April 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    It really hurt the Yankees that contract wise it was cheaper to keep him than trade him. Very unfortunate, because I think he could start for some teams today especially in the NL.

  62. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    “If Joba was a dominating 8th inning guy they would not have had to spend what they did on Soriano.”

    How did the Soriano expense negatively effect the rest of the roster? What free agent did the Yankees get outpriced on?

    *****************

    I never said Soriano’s signing negatively effected the roster did I? And I never said we lost a free agent did I? Why insert those straw men?

    It does seem obvious to me that you don’t spend that kind of money on a position you consider a strength. That’s pretty much 101A business of baseball material. The Yankees are not going to sign a first baseman, or center fielder, or second baseman, etc.

  63. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Jeter just took me down off my bacon high :(

  64. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    1. Warren
    2. DJ Mitchell
    3. Phelps
    4. Brackman
    5. Noesi
    6. Black
    7. Stoneburner
    8. Betances
    9. Banuelos
    10. Hall
    11. DePaula
    12. Bryan Mitchell
    13. Marshall
    14. Bleich
    15. Kahnle
    16. Ramirez
    17. Turley
    18. Whitley
    19. Romanski

    This is in no particular order but if only 20% hit on making any difference, Yankee pitching (starters will be in pretty good shape for years to come.

  65. MTU April 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I got to run.

    Catch you all later.

  66. Irreverent Discourse April 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    LGY – It was reported by ESPN so… hold onto that bacon :)

  67. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    The headline doesn’t match the story.

    He said he’s not thinking about his stance. Not that he abandoned it.

    The only thing he “abandoned” was thinking about it.

  68. Vineyard Yankee April 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    RayVT:

    I don’t think it ‘hurt’ the Yankees, as I said they are more able to absorb financial hits like that than almost any other ML Club.

    As far as trading him I doubt there was much of a market if any based on what he showed performance wise. Who would in their right mind would want to trade for him and pay him that salary ? The Yanks probably would have had the pay a substantial portion of his contract if he was traded anyway.

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan April 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    YES guys pointed it out last night. He was “toe tapping” again.

  70. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    I believe ARod might DH today giving Posada & Gardner a day off & Chavez & Jones ABs.

  71. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    So is he still trying to keep that front foot planted?

    They talked about it on the broadcast yesterday and it was obvious he was moving his front foot again. Did anyone notice when that started? If it was after ST or during the end?

  72. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    He hasn’t been hitting with a stride that I can tell so that story doesn’t seem.accurate.

  73. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Hmm! I didn’t see that! True!

  74. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Jonathan isn’t a “failure” at 25. That’s just disgruntled fan babble.

    Some guys take longer to find a role, make adjustments, etc.

    That’s not being a “failure”.

    If he has a good year this year, he helps this team win a lot of games. Which is the ultimate goal.

    Randy,

    I agree. Sometimes, things don’t go according to plan. Instead of whining about it, you adjust.

    I think the adjustments the Yankees made Post-Lee have the potential to turn out very well.

    It also helps that both Arod and Tex look great in the early going.

    I like Martin. All the pitchers I talked to this Spring commented how much they like throwing to him.

    He fpcatches and frames well, sets a good target, and I like his game calling.

    I bet the Red Sox would like a do over and sign him right now.

  75. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Joba, not Jonathan. Sorry for the typo.

  76. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    DiMaggio is the only hitter I know of that could hit totally flat footed and no stride. It was strange to see, but, even 10-13 years later, in Old Timers games, he still hit the same way and hit homers 3 straight years. CBS with Reese and Dean used to carry the games.

  77. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    True! But Joe D did move his weight forward when he hit & he wasn’t flat-footed.

  78. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Yeah the actual article on ESPN is strangely written. Hard to tell what O’Connor actually means.

  79. Tom in N.J. April 5th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    If being a valuable, contributing member of a team is ‘failing’, then what’s succeeding?

  80. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Didn’t he do the toe thing lifting all but his toe and then shift his weight forward as he swung?

  81. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Jeter is still not striding so, nothing mechanically has changed.

  82. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Yikes. Not kind words a little further down in the article. O’Connor taking notes from Wally.

    “Only Jeter moved more like an old man shooing pigeons in a park, and less like the supple and graceful athlete he used to be. The shortstop booted the ball, accepted the E-6 with a smile, and returned to the only position he’s ever wanted to play.”

  83. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Pujols has virtually no.stride either….id have to look at tape to confirm but I don’t even think be picks him front foot off the ground….just pivots..

  84. AldotheApache April 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    stuckey99 says:
    April 5, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    “If Joba was a dominating 8th inning guy they would not have had to spend what they did on Soriano.”

    How did the Soriano expense negatively effect the rest of the roster? What free agent did the Yankees get outpriced on?

    ————-

    Ooooh

  85. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Its hard to tell what anything O’conner writes means….

  86. AldotheApache April 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Oooh I know that one!!!

    None?

  87. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Sj – Even without the stride could the toe tapping (yea I’m going there) contribute to timing issues with his swing?

  88. Pat M. April 5th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    GB…..Joltin Joe had such strong hands and such a long swing that was a thing of beauty…..He could actually turn his hands at the last second to alter the swing to adjust to the pitch…….But it was The Babe that had the fastest hands ….They just exploded at the pitch

  89. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Gehrig’s swing is underrated I think…..was as pretty as the Babe’s or Williams but man was it functional….looks like he kept the bat in the zone forever.

  90. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Toe tapping is a timing mechanism some hitter use.

    In Jeter’s case, perhaps he feels if he toe taps, his timing would be a little cleaner than it’s been.

    For him, the key is for him to find a way to not jam himself on pitches on the inner half of the plate.

    Clearly, the swing and his timing is still a work in progress.

    14 AB’s is nowhere close to making a definitive declaration on how it’s going.

  91. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Ray, you’re right. His back heel came off of the ground. Still an unusal stance and swing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  92. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    *wasn’t*

  93. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    “It struck me as ironic given his history, that’s all.”

    WCYF, if you want to keep pretending it was just an opportunity to take a shot, and you made NO point other than to take a shot at him, I obviously can’t stop you.

    “Regarding small and petty in my opinion, that’s subjective rhetoric”

    And “My, how the mightly have fallen” is what???

    “I’d rather debate the merits if that’s ok with you.”

    I’m still waiting.

    “I never said Soriano’s signing negatively effected the roster did I? And I never said we lost a free agent did I? Why insert those straw men?”

    Then what’s the relevancy?

    Yes, the Yankees spent money on Soriano instead of giving Chamberlain the role.

    And…?

  94. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Thanks SJ!

  95. G. Love April 5th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    It looks to me that Jeter has settled somewhere between his old stance and the new one he worked on with Long. He’s not striding into the ball like he used to. He’s just gone back to the toe tap with no stride. He’s probably doing that to get his timing down. If you’re an actual fan of the guy you saw last night he was hitting the ball hard again. He’s about to break out. So is Gardner.

    What I love about the lineup right now is that when it flips you have Martin/Gardner/Jeter setting up for all the sluggers. If the pitcher can’t keep those 3 off the bases, we’ll score 7-8 runs a game most nights.

  96. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Jeter has never been a tinkerer like some guys are….he’s a see it and hit it guy. Its not unexpected to me that he’s having some trouble adjusting to something new. I do hope he sticks with it though because I think it will help him after he’s adjusted to it.

  97. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    I am an avid Jeter supporter! LOL! I didn’t get to see the last game on tv so I didn’t know what he did! He is a brilliant baseball player.

  98. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Thanks GB! I was just looking for a pic/video of Joe D!

  99. blake April 5th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    G. Love,

    I agree. Both Gardner and Jeter had some better swings last night…..gardner is adjusting to a new swing as well….he just looks like he’s been having a little trouble timing when to start, and he’s been late a lot….looked like he was starting to get it last night.

  100. Pat M. April 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    SJ…..I think once Derek has a few good ab’s he’ll start feeling good and then will drive the ball…..As you know so much of the game is played upstairs……I mean just a week ago the talk was how good he was driving the ball in camp……..The microscope and the spotlight is so much more when it comes to not only the Yanks as a team, but Derek Jeter the ballplayer who is fighting father time……Makes for great copy…….

  101. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Tim Wakefield was on WFAN this morning – what a nice, classy guy. I can’t believe he’s been with the Sox since 1995(!). He’s got a book out called Knuckler – I’ll have to check that out.

    It’s also hard to believe that we have to calm people down about Jeter after 4 games……

  102. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    The swing of beauty was Mantle from the right side. Almost always level with unreal power.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&NR=1

  103. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Truly!

  104. Pat M. April 5th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    blake……The Iron Horse was in some minds, the 2nd best baseball player ever…..He was crazy great…..

  105. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    I’m not ready to yet to say this pen is so good that our SP only have to go 6 innings because it’s only 4 games. Soriano, however, looks like he fits like a glove.

  106. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    SJ, but that again comes down to Manny having to save the rotation. We don’t know about Phil right now and it’s still only 1 start each with Nova and AJ. Asking a kid to solve the rotation woes (if we have them in July) is asking a lot.

  107. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    GB

    From looking at the video it appears that Joe D had several swings/stances. He appeared to take a very short step on fastballs. He appeared much more flat-footed on breaking pitches as if he were holding back and generating power from his hips and a bit of spring off his back foot!

    Joe D was such a student of the game! He prided his vision as a point of emphasis such that he wouldn’t go to movie theaters. Ted Williams was the same way. Makes sense 2 of the greatest pure hitters of all time.

  108. Pat M. April 5th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    GB….Just imagine The Mick playing in The New Stadium ???? What do you think, an additional 100 dingers ???

  109. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Facing a LH tonight so that may help Jeter feel comfortable and hopefully get him on a roll.

  110. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Wow, I’m glad I didn’t read that article. That is not only mean-spirited, but it makes Jeter sound like a selfish SOB

  111. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Nobody has to save the rotation Betsy.

    Adding parts durning the season only makes a team better.

    The rotation is not nearly as bad as you think it is.

    Look around at rotations throughout baseball.

    The Yankees rotation is still better than most in the game.

  112. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Let me clarify – I mean IF we are having SP problems in July, it would be hard to expect a kid to solve them.

  113. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    SJ, I have no problem adding parts. I did say last night that I don’t think this is one of the better rotations in baseball and I stand by that; however, the potential is there for it to be so. It’s a matter of just waiting and seeing – I’m not ready to trash the rotation like some in the media, not yet for sure.

  114. m1kew April 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    “Tampa It seems contrary to what you might expect, but Tampa is always the last roster to go public. There’s no one who really covers that team — that I know of, anyway — so the information is slow to arrive.”

    Att Tampa Yank – maybe there is something in this for you? Would it be possible for you (with firends who have a similar interest) to approach the local paper and the TB Yankees and see if you could start a blog covering the team which appears in the paper?

    Maybe you could get a press pass and free entry to games. Just a thought … I realize there are more reasons not to look into this than reasons to do it but from a distance it looks like something that might be fun and who knows where it could lead?

  115. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Here’s about 8 minutes of home movies of Mantle in August of ’56 at Tiger Stadium. Two of the best hitters that baseball has ever had. Mantle and Kaline. Pitching match-up was Bob Turley and Virgil Trucks (Derek Trucks grand uncle).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  116. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    By then though, Betsy, a free agent or two may be available and we won’t need to look to the young guns for help.

  117. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    You would be hard pressed to find an AL rotation without significant question marks.

  118. Irreverent Discourse April 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Betsy post.

  119. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Take a look at how many guys pitched in the starting rotation in 1996, and their ERA’s.

    You will be shocked that, aside from Pettitte, it was a struggle to find 5 guys to give consistent performances.

    Out of that group, none of the guys were as good as CC.

    The bullpen and Pettitte were the strengths of that pitching staff.

    There are different ways to win baseball games. It isn’t just rolling out the same five guys, who will all performe at a high level, each week.

    Fact is, no team has five solid starting pitchers.

    If 2-3 give you what you need, you make due with the rest.

    In that regard, the Yankees are in better shape than most teams.

  120. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    GB

    I looked at Mick’s RH stance & I didn’t realize it before that his push off was so powerful that his back leg moved. His arm strength was so powerful that he could be fooled on a pitch & still muscle it over the fence. Awesome hitter.

  121. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    LGY, when I get a chance tonight, I’m going to go through the rotations……..

  122. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    SJ, I see your point. It’s really too early to judge how good this rotation is, IMO – or any other teams -except for Philly, I suppose.

  123. G. Love April 5th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    From my perspective I think SJ is right that we will see Manny B sooner than a lot of you think.

    All of the stuff we’ve been reading is how the shelf life on the young small LH starting pitchers is short and the window to get their best stuff is to use them up before they hit 30.

    You look at Johan, Higuera and even Kazmir and you see a pattern of these smaller framed LHP losing effectiveness or suffering injury as they reach 30.

    I think the Yankees are going to get him up here and use the arm, not overuse mind you, while they can if they subscribe to that theory.

    If the Yankees are smart, they will keep his innings and pitch counts low in AA and save as many bullets for the big team as possible.

  124. Nick in SF April 5th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    “The point Stuckey is I think Joba is overrated and I like to belabor the point in a derisive manner, getting in digs at Joba and even more so the peope who think he can more than a middle innings reliever.”

    You left that part out.

  125. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    The Yankees have had kids (inexperience) come up and save the rotation all the time. Whitey Ford in ’50, roland Sheldon in ’61, Bouton in ’62, Downing in ’63, Stottlemyre in ’64, Guidry in ’77, Pettitte in ’96.

  126. Crawdaddy April 5th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Pettitte pitched 175 innings for the Yankees in 95 so he wasn’t exactly a rookie like those other guys.

  127. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    GB

    I looked at Mick’s RH stance & I didn’t realize it before that his push off was so powerful that his back leg moved. His arm strength was so powerful that he could be fooled on a pitch & still muscle it over the fence. Awesome hitter.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Every swing was like an explosion of power. His running out of the box or in center was the same way. Like Rickey Henderson, when they ran, it seemed that they were at full speed on the first step.

  128. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    I meant to say Pettitte in 1995, not ’96. My error.

  129. LGY April 5th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    The problem with the 96 comparison is Mo pitched 107 innings.

  130. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Yeah! Mick was extremely fast out of the box. I tried some switch hitting to try & run out of the box batting LH but it didn’t work for me. LOL! My swing was more like Ty Cobbs w/o those results! LOL! (Leg kick)

  131. Patrick April 5th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    For the record, Pujols does pick up his front foot when he swings, but he doesn’t stride

  132. jacksquat April 5th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    I’ll take a shot at GTLU even though it is not “official”.

    Jeter – SS
    Swisher – RF
    Teixeira – 1B
    Rodriguez – 3B
    Cano – 2B
    Posada – DH
    Jones – LF
    Granderson – CF
    Martin – C

    Joe could start Molina today, but I’ll guess he’ll start him tomorrow night with Garcia starting, or maybe Thursday afternoon (I think it would be better for him to catch Garcia than Burnett).

  133. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 5th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    “From heralded starter – to the heir to Mo – to the 8th inning guy – to the 7th inning guy. My, how the mighty have fallen.”

    This is a little disingenuous on your part, WC, since you had him written off as a 6th inning has been and trade bait for a starting pitcher. I would say according to your prognostications, his stock has risen.

    I go back to my maxim that a quality player, especially one who still has the blush on his cheek, doesn’t forget how to play.

    Patience is a virtue. Obviously the New York Yankees are aware of that.

    Thank God.

  134. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Joba, Robertson, and Soriano could pitch 180-200 innings and more than fill in for the 107 Mo pitched working the 7th and 8th innings, as he did in ’96.

  135. Patrick April 5th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Joba, Robertson, and Soriano could pitch 180-200 innings and more than fill in for the 107 Mo pitched working the 7th and 8th innings, as he did in ’96.

    How crazy is it that we are talking about 3 guys trying to replace what Rivera did in a season? That 1996 season was so impressive, it was perhaps Mo’s best season ever. What other reliever could pitch so many innings, stay healthy and pitch so well? It’s really astounding…

  136. jacksquat April 5th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Read this on ESPN:

    An executive of one club that expects to be hunting for a starter says his team has already all but crossed Felix Hernandez off its shopping list because it can’t see Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik, who may already be on the hot seat, making that risky roll of the dice. “I sincerely doubt it,” the exec says. “Enough bad stuff has happened there that they have to show progress in the next year or two. And trading Felix would not help them show it.”

    I think there’s a pretty good chance that “executive” works for the Yankees.

  137. blake April 5th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Pat M,

    Yea he really was….his numbers are incredible.

  138. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Ray, about 2:35 or 40 seconds into this clip is a sample of Mantle’s speed on a routine grounder to 2nd base, from the right side.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  139. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    So here’s a different tact than I usually take…

    For anyone with questions and/or concerns about the rotation, can you name a year any time during the last 16 that you DID not have questions or concerns going into the season?

  140. RayVT April 5th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Yeah I saw that! And that was from the RH side too! Amazing!

  141. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    I still love what Twins manager said (shoot, I’m forgetting his name) about Mo – that he should be banned (or something like that) because he was from another world, lol

  142. blake April 5th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Patrick,

    Thanks….I knew he didn’t stride but couldn’t remember if he picked it up or not. He doesn’t pick it up much if he does. Just pivots with a huge hip rotation.

  143. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Though not as good for as long as Rivera, Mike Marshall did a pretty good job of eating up innings in 1974. 106 games, 208 innings, a year after pitching in 92 games and 179 innings. Now, he was a freak of nature.

  144. Patrick April 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    blake,

    Yeah I’m pretty sure he just uses it for timing as SJ44 talked about. He just picks the foot up and puts it back down in the same spot

  145. Joe from Long Island April 5th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Betsy, it was Tom Kelly. It was after Mariano pitched multiple innings in a Yankees’ win, in 1996. Along the lines of We don’t want to face him anymore, he needs to play in a higher league, but i don’t know where that league is. He should be made illegal in this one.

  146. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Tom Kelley made that remark about Rivera.

  147. Pat M. April 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    GB…..I copied The Rog’s swing and The Mick’s drag bunt when hitting from the left side……Problem was I couldn’t handle the hard stuff down and away……After a few games Cox told me he never wanted to see me hitting left handed ever again…Wiffle Ball included

  148. pat April 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    YES and Yankee Magazine is doing a feature on Alex next month and the writer has blogged a small part about what Jorge and Alex (and some other MLB players) did for a workout this off season.

    Exhausting just reading about it.

    http://yankees.mlblogs.com/201.....ng-in-may/

  149. Patrick April 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    GB7,

    Good example with Mike Marshall. 208 innings without a single start!? Insane.

  150. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    blake April 5th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    Patrick,

    Thanks….I knew he didn’t stride but couldn’t remember if he picked it up or not. He doesn’t pick it up much if he does. Just pivots with a huge hip rotation.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Ortiz has a habit of rotating his huge hips…and wipes our two rows of fans next to the dugout.

  151. Betsy April 5th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Joe, thanks! Mo is on a higher plane than anyone – it’s so cliche to say he’s not human, but he’s not. He was born to pitch -period.

  152. blake April 5th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Patrick,
    Yea timing and helps get your weight transfer going…..his swing is near perfect from the right side.

  153. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Pat M. April 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    GB…..I copied The Rog’s swing and The Mick’s drag bunt when hitting from the left side……Problem was I couldn’t handle the hard stuff down and away……After a few games Cox told me he never wanted to see me hitting left handed ever again…Wiffle Ball included

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Bobby Cox was such a gentle soul. Never an unkind word….except to umpires and rookies. He had them on the same level. That had to be a treat though to listen to his stories with Mantle….him, Blanchard and Clete Boyer

  154. blake April 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Pat M,

    Bobby could’ve told me I sucked all.together I would’ve been honored :) cool story

  155. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Pat, Girardi/Long needs to pull out the clips of Mantle drag bunting and let Gardner copy them. Not sure how many times he was thrown out doining it, but, probably not very often.

  156. DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Question: How low does Jeter’s average have to be on July 1st to be moved down to the 7 8 or 9 hole by Girardi?? My guess is .230. Comments??

  157. stuckey99 April 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....-be-right/

  158. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Jeter is not going to be dropped down to 7, 8 or 9

  159. blake April 5th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    “How low does Jeter’s average have to be on July 1st to be moved down to the 7 8 or 9 hole by Girardi?? My guess is .230. Comments??”

    Who cares….its April 5.

  160. RMS April 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    I’m just glad Joba is pitching well and hope he continues.

  161. Tom in N.J. April 5th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Bobby Cox would have quit baseball and gone into the priesthood if he saw me trying to ‘hit’.

  162. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    Question: How low does Jeter’s average have to be on July 1st to be moved down to the 7 8 or 9 hole by Girardi?? My guess is .230. Comments??

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    You want comments?

    How about “you’re a trolling idiot”?

  163. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Stuckey

    this one is my fav:

    6. At least one terrible or mediocre non-contender like the Royals, Pirates, Mariners, Orioles, or Cubs will get off to a “hot start.” Numerous words will be spilled to the effect of that they might “make it.” They won’t.

  164. I Like Inge April 5th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    pat April 5th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    YES and Yankee Magazine is doing a feature on Alex next month and the writer has blogged a small part about what Jorge and Alex (and some other MLB players) did for a workout this off season.

    Exhausting just reading about it.

    http://yankees.mlblogs.com/201…..ng-in-may/

    ———————————-

    Wow that is a ridiculous workout. Hi-pulls with 240 lbs after the course they ran and all the upper body strength he must have used on the ropes, sleds, and tires. Jesus christ! Jaw dropping workout.

  165. austinmac April 5th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    DePaula is still without a visa isn’t he? Until he has one, he shouldn’t be considered.

  166. BoJo April 5th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=fvwrel

  167. DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Sticks and stones to all those who mock….just as I was ridiculed for saying Posada was done as a catcher last year…well, I guess I was right….just wanted to see everyone’s take on Jeter, sorry to offend those who view the team through rose colored glasses……..

  168. austinmac April 5th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    GB,

    I smile whenever I think of PeeWee and Dizzy. I loved it when Dizzy would start singing Wabash Cannonball after sampling his sponsor’s product. My favorite thing Dizzy would say is “You ain’t just a bumpin’ your gums PeeWee”. Those were the days. Now, we get Tim McCarver who makes me want to punch him.

  169. m1kew April 5th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Rain stopped … sky is clearing … looks like they will play tonight. It is very windy here but I am not sure whether it is blowing out or in at YS.

  170. G. Love April 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    DocTodd,

    If your agenda is to come in here and bash Jeter without letting a couple months of the season to play out first, you’re going to find no one in here is going to want to deal with you since you come off as some kind of troll hell bent on seeing our older stars fail.

    You predicted Jorge wouldn’t catch again? Great. Boffo. Socko. You’re Nostradamus. No one could see that coming with all the young catching the Yankees have been grooming for years. Do I have to even insert an “eye roll” here?

    You’ve been in here every day looking for someone to give you a cookie for calling Jorge’s days behind the plate over, but the fact is I don’t remember you posting in here at all last season. I’m sure you did, but you clearly didn’t leave enough of an impact for all of us to praise you the way you apparently want for predicting Jorge was done behind the dish.

  171. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    austinmac April 5th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    GB,

    I smile whenever I think of PeeWee and Dizzy. I loved it when Dizzy would start singing Wabash Cannonball after sampling his sponsor’s product. My favorite thing Dizzy would say is “You ain’t just a bumpin’ your gums PeeWee”. Those were the days. Now, we get Tim McCarver who makes me want to punch him.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Mac, Ol’ Diz was a work of art. Loved his Falstaff beer. Of course, he only drank it to wash down the hotdogs and hushpuppies.

  172. austinmac April 5th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    GB,

    I think Dizzy ate a lot of hush puppies and hot dogs. He was a loyal pitch man. He could make a blow out game fun, although may favorite Yankee games is when they score 6 in the first and then slowly pull away.

  173. Giuseppe Franco April 5th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    The primary reason why Posada isn’t catching anymore is because of the concussions. It’s not because he was “done” as this d-bag insists.

  174. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Guys, I predicted we’d be playing baseball in April. Do I get a cookie?

  175. DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Whatever….GLove….did I say bump Jeter down today? Absolutely not! Do I want him to fail? Unlikely since I’ve been a Yankee fan for years…It was just a hypothetical question to see people’s opinions…some may say he’ll never be moved down,and that’s very possible..I was just trying to get a discussion going,sorry to upset the apple cart……

  176. DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Rigut Giuseppe….so those passed balls had no effect on the decision to DH Posada…Blame it all on the concussions,brilliant!!!!

  177. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    what kind of cookie do you want Shame?

  178. grouchonyy April 5th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    The one thing the Tampa Yankees have but the others don’t is an iphone app. Too bad it’s not ahead of the curve in news. Right now, it still has the 2010 roster listed.

  179. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Um…what about oatmeal chocolate chip cookies? It says ‘classic with a twist.’ :P

  180. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    DT (how apropos). You spout the same crap every day. You weren’t just trying to get a conversation going.

  181. G. Love April 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Shame,

    You get a cookie and I’ll make sure you get recognized for you putting your neck out on the line like this.

    Predicting a 40 year old guy in the last year of his deal with concussions is not going to catch is the stuff of the occult. We have a warlock in our midst.

  182. Erin April 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Cano, Teixeira, Jeter to pick up Gold Gloves before today’s game.

    :)

  183. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Didn’t Cervelli have more PB’s last year?

    Concussions, not PB’s, ended Posada’s catching days.

  184. Giuseppe Franco April 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Posada was an average defensive catcher at best for most of his career. Yet, they managed to keep him behind the plate for 13 years.

    Run along, chump.

  185. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Shame
    I do make a chocolate choc chip oatmeal cookie…I will send you the internet version.
    The regular internet CC cookies I reserve for GB.

  186. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Shame, Kate makes great tasting cookies, but they are really thin. Her excuse was they had to be thin to get them through the internet wires.

  187. Joe from Long Island April 5th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    FWIW – Joe Girardi has said that they’re concerns are the concussions. He’s not perseverated on this – a lesson many here could take to heart – but he did say it during ST.

  188. Erin April 5th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Wait a minute-there are cookies? I want a cookie! ;)

  189. DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Right….everybody is an expert on everything on this forum….and the worst kept secret in baseball is that Cliff Lee will be a Yankee in 2011 …..um,yeah right!

  190. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Looks like Tyler Colvin has recovered from getting a broken bat stuck in his chest last year. 2 run homer

  191. G. Love April 5th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I predict tomorrow will be Wednesday. You’ve all been warned!

  192. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Wow, homemade upstatekate inter-cookies… I feel honored just discussing it.

  193. Shame Spencer April 5th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Are we playing the prediction game?! I love this game.

  194. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    G Love
    are you looking for cookies too?

  195. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    It’s like a holiday here at the old homestead today. Coca-Cola, Coor’s Light and pizza. The best part is “Killer” isn’t here to drool all over the pizza. He’s with the twins, about 25 miles away.

    Oh, oh. There’s the door. That dog can smell pizza and beer 25 miles out.

  196. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    nothin like a well trained dog

  197. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    While you are ripping those with “expert” opinions, some more informed than you, tell us why you are so sure his catching and not concussions ended his catching days?

    Do you know Jorge did not pass his baseline concussion tests until December?

    Did you know that doctors, not just Yankee doctors but, the doctors at the University of Pittsburgh, one of the leading concussion centers in the country, recommend to him that he not catch?

    ‘Ya think given that information, it’s more reasonable to assume concussions, and not PB’s, ended his catching career?

  198. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Kate, “Killer’s” not normal. Loves pizza, spaghetti and peanut butter and blackberry jelly on toast.

  199. G. Love April 5th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    upstate kate,

    Yes. With the exception of the tragically named Pecan Sandy, there isn’t a cookie out there I don’t like.

  200. DocTodd April 5th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Sorry, but most of those on the board did not get to read Posada’s medical records…Maybe due to HIPPA laws?????

  201. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Also, if there was any chance Jorge Posada could catch, do you really think Gustavo Molina would be the backup catcher right now?

    Believe it or not, there isn’t a conspiracy around every corner.

    Sometimes, what’s said, in this case why Jorge isn’t catching, is what’s being said publicly.

  202. Against All Odds April 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock April 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Odds, I’m in & out here but you’re probably right about KC, though take a look they’ve gotten the ball to Soria 3x now & are 3-1. Nice start for that club, even though they lack the SP to hang around. Loads of talent down the road though, obviously so the fans have something to cheer right now & can look to the future when the team fades.

    As for Joba, we’ll keep our covert plans on schedule ;) .

    —————————-

    True their future is not as bleak

    Yep we’ll keep the Joba plans under wraps until further notice. They’ve seen too much already lol

  203. I Like Inge April 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    While you are ripping those with “expert” opinions, some more informed than you, tell us why you are so sure his catching and not concussions ended his catching days?

    Do you know Jorge did not pass his baseline concussion tests until December?

    Did you know that doctors, not just Yankee doctors but, the doctors at the University of Pittsburgh, one of the leading concussion centers in the country, recommend to him that he not catch?

    ‘Ya think given that information, it’s more reasonable to assume concussions, and not PB’s, ended his catching career?

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    That’s really interesting. The Yankees should not have let him catch in the playoffs. Forget the performance, a home plate collision could have had long-term effects for Posada. Luckily this did not happen. I know its easier said than done telling Posada that he could not catch in the playoffs. Luckily he had no major collisions or head shots with foul tips or foul balls.

  204. BoJo April 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    SJ–

    I have been worried about Jorge’s long-term health for a while (concussions), and that recount of his tests didn’t help. He’s in my prayers for a long and healthy life.

  205. Joe from Long Island April 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    lite beer? GB, you should go with the real thing.

  206. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    No but, those who know him and have had people they know workout with him this off-season are able to back up what’s being said publicly by the Yankees.

    But hey, if you want to believe PB’s ended his catching career, fine by me.

  207. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Andrew Cashner of the Cubs looks good in his first ML start. 4 innings, 2 hits and 1 run with no walks. Miranda is 0-2

  208. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Joe from Long Island April 5th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    lite beer? GB, you should go with the real thing.

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    “Killer’s” watching his weight. His ladies don’t want a fat drunk. Joe.

  209. austinmac April 5th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    I don’t think their is any doubt concussions are the reason the Yankees never considered Posada as the backup catcher. Clearly, he has more value than Molina as a catcher. Concussion concerns likely made acceptance of the DH role easier for Jorge to accept.

    I congratulate the Yankees for placing player above team.

  210. blake April 5th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    SJ really makes the only point that needs to be made here …..does anyone thing Gustavo Molina would be even on the roster if the Yankees felt it was safe for Posada to catch. The fact that he’s not going to catch at all with Cervelli being out says everything that needs to be known about the situation. Let Jorge be the DHRH.

  211. Erin April 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    BryanHoch Yankees lineup vs. Twins: Jeter 6 Swisher 9 Teixeira 3 ARod 5 Cano 4 Posada DH Martin 2 Jones 7 Granderson 8 Sabathia LHP

  212. Erin April 5th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    New Post: Yankees lineup

    :arrow:

  213. SJ44 April 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Concussions and head injuries are the main medical focal point in all professional sports leagues right now.

    How these injuries are treated have changed dramatically in the last 2 years.

    Baseline testing used to be done only on the more severe concussions/head injuries.

    Now? Baseline testing is done after EVERY head injury.

    I know NFL players who undergo baseline testing after each season even if they weren’t diagnosed with head injuries during the season.

    Catchers are especially vulnerable these days. Increased bat speed + the speed in which the ball comes off the bat (in some cases, up to 130 MPH) can cause concussions on balls off the catchers mask. That rarely happened in the past.

  214. GreenBeret7 April 5th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    Umpires are being diagnosed with concussions more and more also. That was the reason for them being repositioned behind home plate.

  215. Bronx Jeers April 5th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Concussions off foul tips are sort of new territory. At least acknowledging seems to be.

    If anybody remembers Mike Richter retired under similar circumstances.

  216. upstate kate April 5th, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    my husband’s second job is as a college coach, and concussion awareness is a hot topic at that level as well…at the high school level too

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