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Rainout notes: Feliciano still “not there yet”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Apr 12, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post


Pedro Feliciano said he never felt pain during today’s throwing session, but he did feel a slight “pinch,” and that made him feel like something might not be quite right. Feliciano said his arm is usually very loose, and that pinch made him feel like “it wasn’t my arm.”

When he met with the doctor later — after he initially talked to the media — Feliciano spoke up about the pinch. The doctor then prodded near his shoulder, and Feliciano felt the same problem as before.

“I was so happy, jumping all over to play catch,” he said. “And then I came back, not sad, but I just came back with not the result that I want.”

This will be a more thorough MRI, and Feliciano is obviously disappointed. He’d never been on the disabled list before this season, and obviously you have to wonder if his workload with the Mets is finally catching up to him. But that’s an issue for another day. For now, the Yankees have to figure out how much longer they might be without him.

“It’s a concern because we were hoping after these two weeks that he would be able to take the next step, then the next step,” Joe Girardi said. “We’re just not there yet.”

Here’s Feliciano.

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• Luis Ayala has a strained lat. He felt it after Saturday’s game, and it was still tight on Sunday so he was tested today. He’ll go on the disabled list tomorrow. “Instead of saying that he might be back in 4-5 days, we’re just going to be smart and make sure we have enough pitching,” Girardi said.

• Is it possible the Yankees will use that roster spot to call-up a second lefty? “It’s a consideration,” Girardi said. “But we’ll probably take who we feel will help us the most right now.” Steve Garrison’s name obviously jumps to mind, but otherwise there’s not really an obvious candidate.

• Tomorrow’s game will not be a doubleheader. The Yankees have not announced a makeup date for tonight’s rainout. They will play single games Wednesday and Thursday.

• Speaking of which, A.J. Burnett will be bumped back to start tomorrow and Phil Hughes will pitch on Thursday. The Yankees haven’t set a rotation beyond Thursday. It’s possible Freddy Garcia could be skipped again on Friday to let Ivan Nova make that start, but it’s not certain.

• The Yankees have games the next five days, so Garcia should get a start during this home stand at some point.

• No problems with Alex Rodriguez, who had to skip Sunday’s game because he was sick. He was in the lineup, and he was still scheduled to play up until the moment the game was rained out. “He was good,” Girardi said. “He was smiling today; it was good to see him smiling, because he wasn’t smiling Sunday.”

• If you’re looking for good news on Feliciano, he said the two weeks off weren’t a complete waste. The doctor said his arm was legitimately stronger than when he left spring training. “It’s stronger from the bands and the weights and the treatment,” Feliciano said. “But he wants to see more deeper what’s in there with the MRI.”

• From the meaningless information department: Dave Robertson has moved lockers, moving just a few feet to the corner of the clubhouse. He was on Boone Logan’s right, now he’s on Boone Logan’s left. Said he just felt like taking that locker instead. Fair enough.

Associated Press photo of the rainy stadium

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348 Responses to “Rainout notes: Feliciano still “not there yet””

  1. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    GB

    Yeah he did a good job, a lot of harmless singles except for that 2nd inning and the HR. The no walks was a good sign since he gave up too many of those last time. Its early in the season so I don’t expect any of them to be perfect.

    Yankeefem

    Almonte’s hit was a single, so far I think the TY have gotten a 2 out single in 4 innings but nothing else.

    Kelvin Perez has looked really good in his 2 relief innings so far. 2 hits and 4 strikeouts.

    I’m not taking notes but the guy in front of me is. The starting pitcher for the manatees is still pitching, he hasn’t had to work too hard so far.

  2. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Not looking good for Feliciano – I feel sorry for him (and it sucks for the Yankees).

    Enough with skipping Garcia already – let the guy pitch here or at least send him to AAA for a start if he’ll go.

    I know the Yanks don’t like DH, but are they going to keep giving up days off for later in the season?

  3. Benny Blanco April 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    crawford just got owned by price.

  4. mypalfish April 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Price makes it look effortless. And you know why he makes it look effortless? Because, unlike Sabathia, he doesn’t waste 0-2 and 1-2 pitches in the dirt where no hitter will swing at them.

  5. Fran the original April 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Betsy,

    It wouldn’t make sense to schedule a DH tomorrow since it is supposed to rain again. I guess they could have for Thursday.

  6. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    GB, it *was* a very nice play by Laird, and love that Brackman got that DP to get out of the inning.

  7. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    What a pity for Brackman. an infield bleeder and a sure DP to Pena that was booted. Should be 2 outs.

    Nice play by Laird on the short hop and throwing over Revere’s head to Montero for the out

    What a great job by Brackman. bases loaded and nobody out and nobody scores

  8. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    O’s will probably make up the game during end of July series. Nice hot weather! :)

  9. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Charleston reliever, Tommy Kahnle is hitting a steady 97-98 MPH again tonight

  10. CB April 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    (repost)

    The player on Charleston whom I’m really excited to follow this season is Ramon Flores.

    Between Montero and Sanchez, Flores gets lost in the mix.

    Flores really got overshadowed by Sanchez last season. And that’s understandable. Sanchez was just so awesome.

    But Flores had a great season. He has terrific potential.

  11. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Flores has advanced plate discipline, I like that,.

  12. CB April 12th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    David Price’s stuff has not looked right so far this season. It’s early of course. But he’s not throwing the ball the way he does when he’s throwing it well.

  13. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Medchill and Mack just lost a ball in center that went for a triple. Perez not as sharp this inning, gave up a run on a single, stolen base, FC and sac fly. 4-1 manatees going into the bottom of the 8th.
    The SP for the manatees is finally out. Hopefully they can get something off their bullpen.

  14. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Randy, I completely agree – it’s on the player to succeed or fail, it’s on his abilities. I think Phil tinkers and has been tinkered with too much. He dropped the curve he had in the minors for the knuckle curve – since then he’s changed grips several times. He tries a cutter, does ok with it (I don’t love it), struggles with it this ST and decides to just dump it for another. The Yankees changed his arm slot to go 3/4, then they bring it back to over the top. From what I’ve read, his delivery is not as it was in the minors. He’s only 24 and he’s all over the place. I’m not sure he knows what he wants – I think he’s confused. He probably thinks back to when he dominated the minors and wonders why he’s not that pitcher.

    It is all up to him – not the PC, not the staff, not Cashman, not anyone else. It’s his career when all is said and through.

  15. CB April 12th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Jerkface,

    It’s tough to say a player that young has a “high floor” but his approach at the plate makes his almost fit that category (at least in a relative sense).

    Also, big key for him was his ability to play the outfield and not get locked into 1b. Tough to project his power right now. As an OF though his pathway is much better.

  16. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Fran, you’re right – the whole week looks sucky weather wise. Again, maybe MLB schedulers can do a a better job. Early spring in NY is not exactly known for beautiful weather.

  17. ac1 April 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    youkilis has no room to complain, after the strike three call on tex sunday to end the game.

  18. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Yuke called out on strikes and complains….shocking!

  19. ac1 April 12th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    youk just mad because the only way he gets on this year is BS walks.

  20. BD (Boston Dave) April 12th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Price hitting 97 and painting corners (even if the ump doesn’t call it) on pitch #85

    impressive

  21. BD (Boston Dave) April 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    this ump has been butchering calls so far on both sides.

    at least he’s consistently bad

  22. The Hand of Satan April 12th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    score?

  23. The Hand of Satan April 12th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    what is the RS score. i don’t have internet.

  24. Gary April 12th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Just looking at the Yanks batting Stats, beyond the 1st in HR’s they aren’t very nice. I don’t check individual stats much, but the OF is a collective .180 or something close to that.

  25. Benny Blanco April 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Cant wait to see kyle farnwworth close this out.

  26. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Kahnle was tagged for four runs, but only two hits, ome was a misplayed triple and two errors…all with two outs.

    The Yankees have the worst fundamentals on defense as any I’ve seen. That needs to be fixed. It’s bad on every teams at all positions, though the catchers are no worse than average.

  27. BD (Boston Dave) April 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    it’s now 3-2 Rays

    going to the 7th

  28. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Vazquez is 4-4. The only keeping him out of the majors is a place to play. His defense is really bad and he’s too slow to put him in a corner outfield. No need for a strictly DH. He’s like a right handed Thome.

  29. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Angelini scored on a triple and driven in by Rob Lyerly. 4-2 manatees. This is the only inning so far where they have had more than 1 on base at the same time.

  30. Gary April 12th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Just reading about Josh Hamilton, your 12 million dollar man is out for 8 weeks after sliding head first into home plate. No wonder the managers get ulcers.

  31. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    lol, GB–Montero and Vazquez in a row, batting 3, 4 must be every AAA team’s nightmare.

  32. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Maxwell short hops the center field fense with a 2 run triple. Lord, can that guy fly.

  33. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Deangelo Mack just grounded out to first with the bases loaded. Doing his best Derek Jeter impression he swung at the first pitch. Tyanks still losing 4-2 going to the top of the 9th. Ronny Marte now pitching. Higashioka catching now after Z. Almonte pinch walked for him in the 8th.

  34. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Kahnle in 1.2 innings, 2 hits 4 unearned runs, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts

  35. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Marte gets around a 2 out hit. Going to the bottom of the 9th with Medchill, Ibarra and A. Almonte up. So far the TY has 2 runs, 10 hits and an error to the Manatees 4 runs, 11 hits and no errors.

  36. ron April 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Vazquez is a monster at the plate,shame he has no position & is not good on d.

    What to do with montero?

    He looks like he is going to absolutely mash AAA pitching.

    If he can hold his own defensively,every scout on the planet will be raving about him.

  37. ron April 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Marte???

  38. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    JD!

  39. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    That would be Ronny Marte

    Just saw the schedule, apparently Brandon Morrow pitched tonight for the Dunedin bluejays. Anyone check out that game or if he really did pitch for them.

  40. Nick in SF April 12th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    “what is the RS score. i don’t have internet.”

    Very funny.

  41. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    What a great throw from Maxwell and a really nice catch on a short hop and diving tag on the DP

  42. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    TY loses. 4-2 game ends on a strikeout by Abe Almonte. Apparently this was the Manatees first win.

  43. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    ***by Montero***.

  44. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
    That would be Ronny Marte

    Just saw the schedule, apparently Brandon Morrow pitched tonight for the Dunedin bluejays. Anyone check out that game or if he really did pitch for them.
    _____
    Morrow pitched 3 innings, 2 H, 2ER, 2BB, 4K

  45. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    tyanks

    Morrow continued: 3 GO, 2 AO, only faced 13 batters.

  46. The Hand of Satan April 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    It’s like Hell with out the internet….

  47. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Where is Pat M, its time for some small sample size gloating that definitely won’t bite me in the ass down the line.

    Vernon Wells benched tonight: .091 .149 .114 .263
    Mike Napoli super beast: .429 .579 1.071 1.650

  48. yankeefeminista April 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Sean Rodriguez would have had that.

  49. Nick in SF April 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Ugly finder.

  50. JM April 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Price plunks Youk, two on, two out, bottom 8….

  51. m April 12th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    No Yankee baseball? How depressing. :(

  52. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    That ball didn’t hit Youk.

  53. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    L*wr** with another game winning hit for the R*d S*x .

    Guess that R*d S*x farm is pretty strong after all .

    No ?

  54. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Who has a higher batting average , L*wr** or Alex Rodriguez ?

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    BY THE GODS!!!!!

  56. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Who has a higher batting average , L*wr** or Cano ?

  57. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Lowrie fail.

  58. ron April 12th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    RS score??

  59. m April 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Red Sox suck.

    :cry:

  60. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    And Montero is 3-5 with a hard single past shortstop in the hole.

  61. Bx is Burning April 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Who’s the bigger asshole?
    Ruby or fish?

  62. JM April 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    L*wr** kinda s**ked

  63. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Pendleton with 3 innings of relief, 1 hit, 4 strikeouts. 5-3 Scranton.

  64. Bo knows April 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    I really hate a guy who fakes a HBP in the eighth inning of a 3-2 game. That’s just Chickensh*t.

  65. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Well .

    All this means is that Rookie of the Year D*rn*ll McD*n*ld will get the walkoff winning hit .

  66. CB April 12th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Montero came into tonight game hitting .450.

    And finished the night raising his average.

  67. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Yule is the biggest crybaby in baseball, reminds me of Bill Lambeer…

  68. Yanks78 April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Joe Girardi may actually believe that one of these days, Phil Hughes is going to wake up and start throwing the ball 93 MPH again. But Hughes, the guy who will actually have to throw the ball, isnt so sure.

    “It’s obviously something to be worried about,” Hughes said in the clubhouse before Tuesday’s Yankees-Orioles game was rained out. “This is my job, my livelihood and I don’t have the stuff I know I’m capable of going out there with. It’s worrisome and it’s frustrating.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....um=twitter

  69. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    If Lowrie was that good, he’d be starting instead of sitting there with 16 at bats

  70. Bx is Burning April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Why does Capt. Varitek even suit up?

  71. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Yuke

  72. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    I think the R*d S*x term their fearful threesome of

    J*nks , B*rd , and P*mpl*b*tt

    as

    ” JeBaPa “

  73. m April 12th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Wh*t*v*r, d**ch*.

    :cry:

  74. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Still waiting for the great Lars Anderson to make his impact…

  75. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Echo . Romeo . Returns can you do me a big favor? Can you give me directions to the Longfellow Bridge over the Charles River? I’d like to run down there and take some photos to post here.

    Seems like there are quite a few Red Sox fans lining up, stuffing rocks in their pockets and kissing loved ones goodbye.

    Can you help me out?

  76. 38HotDogs April 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Rookie of the Year of the California Penal League maybe

  77. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Yankeefem

    I wonder if they will have Morrow pitch again on sunday in dunedin. That would put him against Brett Marshall and the TY.

  78. cs in la April 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    The head shot of Bobby Jenks on Gameday looks like an arrest photo.

  79. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    “Who’s the bigger asshole?
    Ruby or fish”

    Starting to think it’s the same person…

  80. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    “Wh*t*v*r, d**ch*. ”

    :lol:

  81. cs in la April 12th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Farnsworth. Yikes.

    2 days in a row – we know what that means.

  82. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Oh no, Krazy Kyle

  83. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Oh dear. Please Kyle. Please. Be the good Kyle tonight. We know you can do it.

  84. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Kyle always starts out well, throws strikes.

  85. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    What was that lol

  86. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    He seriously has such good stuff.

    OH MY GOD!!!!!!

  87. Gary April 12th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Strike three

  88. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Ugh. King of milkshakes. If there is ANY justice he’ll make the last out.

  89. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Come on Kyle. Looks like an intentional walk

  90. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    After tonight , guess A . L . East team now has the highest starting pitching E . R . A . ?

    ( hint : it is not them R*d S*x . )

  91. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Where did Kyle get all that movement?

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    :)

    By the way, I think Kyle got jobbed two strikes. So that starts to make up for it.

  93. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Yawn. Echo . Romeo . Returns. Do you have any coffee buddy? Trying to stay awake. It’s hard watching two mediocre teams fighting to stay out of last place.

  94. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    2 out

  95. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    OH MY GOD!!!

    Good morning

    Good afternoon

  96. Gary April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Must be the Tatoo another K

  97. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    # m April 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Where did Kyle get all that movement?

    ————————————–

    getting out of NY does wonders

  98. CB April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Did JD even take a full swing that at bat?

  99. rconn23 April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Nice comeback after falling behind on Drew. Now he can be careful to Ortiz.

  100. Joe from Long Island April 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    So, Boston has sole possession of last place.

    And, well-deserved, if I do say so.

  101. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    FREAKIN GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  102. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    3 outs lol sorry sox fans

  103. hardwired7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Farnsworth sending the Sox to 2-9?

    My God, it’s full of lulz!

  104. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Kyle!!!!

  105. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Ellsbury hasn’t been lead off hitter for 5 games.

  106. Gary April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Man must have hit it off the end, that looked like it was gone

  107. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    JUSTICE

    The KING OF MILKSHAKES made the last out

    GOOD ON YOU KYLE!!!!

  108. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Poor JD. Didn’t like that. :cry:

    I can’t stop :cry: for this team.

    It hurts so much.

    :cry:

  109. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    # trisha – true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    OH MY GOD!!!

    Good morning

    Good afternoon

    Good night, get out, leave now, move away, etc. Anything else I’m forgetting

  110. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Nasty stuff from Krazy Kyle.

  111. Gary April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    It was the Tatoo

  112. cs in la April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Where are those trolls?

  113. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha! Ha! Ha!

  114. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    I thought that was going over the wall, thank God Papi skipped his shake today..:)

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    And our final Jeopardy Question:

    WHAT IS 7?

  116. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    “Good night, get out, leave now, move away, etc. Anything else I’m forgetting”

    :lol:

  117. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Tears at ESPN

  118. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Ellsbury hasn’t been lead off hitter for 5 games.

    ——-

    Trisha stopped keeping score once Ellsbury was dropped to his rightful place in the bottom of the order ;)

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    OOPS

    AND OUR FINAL JEOPARDY ANSWER:

    7

    You have 30 seconds to write down your answer

  120. JobaTipsHisCap April 12th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    NYC weather does SUCK big this year

  121. BJK April 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    You know things are going bad when Kyle Farnsworth shuts you down.

    No?

  122. Bx is Burning April 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Ruby-
    time to tear open another bag of chips, lard ass.

  123. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Is it just me or does Crawford look uncomfortable with the Red Sox? It looks so different

  124. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    What is the number of games below .500 for Sox?

  125. CB April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    David Price is obviously a great pitcher but tonight’s game threw into sharp relief some of the complexities the Sox face with that left hand dominant line up.

    Tito felt compelled to sit regulars. And Carl Crawford just doesn’t hit lefties well.

  126. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Is it just me or does Crawford look uncomfortable with the Red Sox? It looks so different

    How comfortable can a black man be in Boston?

  127. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Totally Kyle!

  128. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Price to Peralta to Farnsworth

    Who woulda thunk it!

  129. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    # Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Is it just me or does Crawford look uncomfortable with the Red Sox? It looks so different

    How comfortable can a black man be in Boston?

    ———————————————-

    Not comfortable at all

  130. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Carl Crawford has the look of someone who sold his soul to the devil. ;)

  131. Yankee Trader April 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    7 is how many games the Sux are below 500 and how many games they’ll be below .500 at the end of the season.

  132. Echo . Romeo . Returns April 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Here’s

    L . o . l .

    at you

    R*d S*x N*t**n .

  133. Yanks78 April 12th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Last year, we had 15 road games in April, to 7 home games. In 09, we had 15 road games and 8 home games.

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    “What is the number of games below .500 for Sox?”

    That’s coming! But that’s not the right answer.

    :)

  135. Yanks78 April 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    How did we lose a series to this team?

  136. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Tito felt compelled to sit regulars. And Carl Crawford just doesn’t hit lefties well

    ——

    Imagine this place if Jed Lowrie was batting 5th for the Yanks.

  137. Yankee Trader April 12th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    SWB just won 5-3 over Rochester

  138. DocTodd April 12th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Fun fact: Kyle Farnsworth is regarded as the toughest player in MLB by other players…

  139. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    # Yanks78 April 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    How did we lose a series to this team?

    ————————————-

    it’s a mystery but hopefully the yankees pay them back when the time comes

  140. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Well you might be giving good answers but that wasn’t the one Jeopardy had in mind.

    The final Jeopardy Question is:

    WHAT IS 2-9

    What is two minus nine.

    Actually I’ve just been told that Jeopardy is going to award the final Jeopardy Question to everyone since the answer should have been

    WHAT IS MINUS 7

    :D

  141. Yankee Trader April 12th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    7 is where their new $142 million dollar man hits in batting order and how many years the Sux are saddled with that contract.

  142. Against All Odds April 12th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    # LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Tito felt compelled to sit regulars. And Carl Crawford just doesn’t hit lefties well

    ——

    Imagine this place if Jed Lowrie was batting 5th for the Yanks.

    ———————————

    He does bat for this team but on the Yankees he wears number 2

    i keed i keed

  143. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    “How did we lose a series to this team?”

    1. Hughes was terrible

    2. Beckett was unhittable

    Not hard to figure out.

  144. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Imagine this place if Jed Lowrie was batting 5th for the Yanks.

    -

    I think I might rather have Jed Lowrie than Derek Jeter atm

  145. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Montero’s probable first defensive mistake in his last 3 games. Even though Whelan was supposed to pitch down and in and he nis by 3 feet, Montero needs to try knocking it down. Not sure why Whelan is closing, because unless he’s traded, he’ll never see the Majors. has a pretty decent fastball and not much else. Gove the closer’s job to Sisco.

    anyway, game over, scranton wins, 5-3. Here’s the final box score.

    Brackman pitched quite well in his AAA debut.

    Montero was Montero and Vazquez was….still hitting

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_rocaaa_1

  146. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    “7 is where their new $142 million dollar man hits in batting order and how many years the Sux are saddled with that contract”

    :D

    So many good, good answers!

    It’s also the number of the heaven Yankee fans are in right now!

  147. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    The Charleston game is too ugly to post. Sanchez and Heathcott didn’t play

  148. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    The times I bother to what the NESN postgame can be counted on two fingers on one hand. Last night and tonight.

    :)

  149. Carlo April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    # Bx is Burning April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Why does Capt. Varitek even suit up?

    ———————————–

    exactly, mike harkey doesnt wear a yankee uniform for games. nor do bullpen catchers.

  150. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    I think I’ll take a run to get something to eat. I get so immersed in happy things that I don’t bother to break for dinner!

    :)

    Good to be with most of you tonight – if you get my drift.

  151. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    CB,

    I read that Tito sat Drew for Cameron on opening day.

    IMO Drew is not a platoon player. At the very least he’s not getting paid like one.

    I blame players for slumping, but in Boston’s case Francona really doesn’t know what to do with his lineup. I think he’s compounding the problem by shuffling the parts.

  152. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    A MAJOR tip of the cap to KYLE FARNSWORTH.

    I bow to you Kyle. You were amazing.

  153. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    I think I might rather have Jed Lowrie than Derek Jeter atm

    —–

    Touche

  154. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    Is it just me or does Crawford look uncomfortable with the Red Sox? It looks so different

    How comfortable can a black man be in Boston?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Why do you find it necessary to post this kind of crap?

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    LGY, you’re still behind in the sweepstakes. And since I didn’t bother keeping score every day until he was moved, I don’t intend to start now.

    As I told you before, if it turns out that he is kept out of leadoff more than put in, I will concede the point.

    Now take a chill pill and just let things play out.

  156. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Carlo April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
    # Bx is Burning April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Why does Capt. Varitek even suit up?

    ———————————–

    exactly, mike harkey doesnt wear a yankee uniform for games. nor do bullpen catchers.

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Since when? Is this a Carlo rule?

  157. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    IMO Drew is not a platoon player. At the very least he’s not getting paid like one.

    —–

    Drew and Crawford may not get paid like platoon players but neither of them can really hit lefties at all.

  158. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 12th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Going to get something to eat.

    Don’t talk about me while I’m gone.

    :)

  159. Carlo April 12th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    # GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Carlo April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
    # Bx is Burning April 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Why does Capt. Varitek even suit up?

    ———————————–

    exactly, mike harkey doesnt wear a yankee uniform for games. nor do bullpen catchers.

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Since when? Is this a Carlo rule?

    —————————————–

    sure

  160. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Yankee fans should take a moment to appreciate Cano’s awesomeness vs LHP.

  161. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    randy l,

    Looks like Livan dazzled today.

    Phillies have already used up their April quota for losses

  162. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Why do you find it necessary to post this kind of crap?

    Are you denying Boston’s history of racism or even the Franchise’s history of not employing black players?

  163. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    GB7 thinks Torii Hunter is a liar, when he said that some of things he hears from the Fenway Faithful are the worst he has ever heard from a crowd.

  164. Yankee Trader April 12th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Wasn’t Kevin Whelan obtained with Humberto Sanchez in the Gary Sheffield trade?

  165. Carlo April 12th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    yes, claggett, sanchez, whelan

  166. kd April 12th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    7 is also the boston pitcher’s era

  167. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    You’re an idiot. show me where I said anything about what the crowds in boston yell or that I called hunter a liar. all I said was there wa no reason to post that crap on here.

  168. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Hamilton keeps yammering about the 3B coach, but in his defense he didn’t tell him to slide head first. :?

  169. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    There is plenty of reason to post that crap on here, Boston deserves to be blasted for it, as does their fanbase.

  170. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    The 2-9 start for Boston would not be so worrisome if they had 5 strong starters and could put a 20-2 run together….but Lackey and Dice-K are serious weaknesses. I’ll even give the RS nation a bone by saying Beckett might be able to pitch without pain all season and do well, but those last two spots are worse anchors than anything the Yankees were contemplating.

    Stick a fork in them.

  171. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    m April 12th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
    Hamilton keeps yammering about the 3B coach, but in his defense he didn’t tell him to slide head first.
    ____________
    Don’t blame Hamilton for hustling and being as competitive as he is. He is a top notch player who listened to a bad judgment call by 3B coach.

  172. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Hamilton should be blamed for throwing his 3B coach under the bus for his own dumb maneuver.

  173. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
    Hamilton should be blamed for throwing his 3B coach under the bus for his own dumb maneuver.
    ___________
    Interesting point. Perhaps there is bad blood?

  174. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Justin Upton hit one 476 feet tonight.

  175. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Why do you find it necessary to post this kind of crap?

    Did you read what m is talking about ?

    “It was just a stupid play,” Hamilton said. “I definitely shouldn’t have done it.”

    Inge caught the ball and tossed it Martinez, who was racing home, and the catcher was able to tag out Hamilton as made a headfirst dive.

    “I listened to my third-base coach,” Hamilton said. “That’s a little too aggressive. The whole time I was watching the play I was listening. [He said] ‘Nobody’s at home, nobody’s at home.’ I was like, ‘Dude, I don’t want to do this. Something’s going to happen.’ But I listened to my coach. And how do you avoid a tag the best? By going in headfirst and get out of the way and get in there. That’s what I did.”

    Anderson said after the game that he hadn’t had a chance to talk the play over with Hamilton because the slugger was getting tests done. But Anderson said it was a play he would have tried with any of the club’s speed guys.

    “There was nobody covering home plate, so we tried to steal a run there,” Anderson said. “He made a pretty good play. That’s a tough play for a catcher, running away and shovel pass and try to tag a guy. There was an opportunity with two outs and we tried to take advantage of it.”

    Anderson said he would have preferred that Hamilton hadn’t dived in headfirst.

    Josh is not being a team player.

  176. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Anyway, I say we all chip in and send the 3B coach a wreath of flowers and bottle of champagne when the Rangers come to town.

  177. JobaTipsHisCap April 12th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    TEX series is a huge test for Yanks, I will take 2 wins

    :)

  178. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    If he really didn’t want to do it, he didn’t have to. He is just trying to blame someone other than himself. Maybe if he wasn’t vein deep for 5 years his bones wouldn’t be so brittle.

  179. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    LH relievers are Cashman’s white whale.

  180. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Yes, I read that and saw the play. I think Hammy is pissed at the guy…

  181. m April 12th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Why is Hamilton semi-blaming his 3B coach publicly? It was Hamilton’s decision to slide head first. You can blame him for Hamilton being thrown out at home. But logic fail for blaming him for the injury itself.

    But the GM already backed up the 3B coach, so no problem there.

  182. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Since numerous people say Josh Hamilton is one of the class acts in baseball, I would have to see the context of when, how, and where he made those comments.

  183. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    When? After the game. Where? Uh to reporters? How? With his mouth :)

  184. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Keep in mind that ESPN reports say he is not taking any pain medication for the arm (due to addictive personality), and he might have been answering the endless questions in an irritable manner.

  185. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    berkmam with his 3rd homer in the last 3 games

  186. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Keep in mind that ESPN reports say he is not taking any pain medication for the arm (due to addictive personality), and he might have been answering the endless questions in an irritable manner.

    —-

    Bojo

    This is WCYF defense of Heyman esque.

    He was clearly throwing his coach under the bus.

  187. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    LGY – I would never say anything so inane and stupid as that. There are numerous non-narcotic, non-addictive pain medications like Metamizol, Ibuprofen, Paracetamol and even Aspirin.

  188. randy l. April 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    “The game was the first between two teams that were 2-8 or worse through 10 games since April 30, 1918, when the Brooklyn Robins beat the Boston Braves at Ebbets Field.”

    gb7-

    who were you rooting for, braves or robins?

  189. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    John–

    You say more inane stupid stuff all the time. Don’t be so modest.

  190. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Cymbalta and Lyrica are also non-narcotic pain relievers.

  191. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Hamilton is definitely blaming the coach…..I would say that it wouldn’t go over well in the clubhouse, but star players get special treatment, so I doubt the Rangers players care

  192. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    As far as I am concerned, Josh Hamilton is as good as they come…beat his addiction issues, and is trying to lead a good clean life. I’d give him some leeway on this and try to find out more about his attitude before throwing him under the bus.

  193. m April 12th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    I’m sure he’s a great guy, but a Yankee wouldn’t have said what he said. He might have thought it, but it wouldn’t be out there for public consumption.

    My thought is that he knows he did an incredibly stupid thing that will hurt his team for 6 weeks. He probably would handle it differently given another chance.

  194. Bronx Jeers April 12th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    What’s Hamilton complaining about?

    I thought a play like that was supposed to fit into the whole “claw and antlers” M.O.

  195. m April 12th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    *He probably would have handled the postgame differently.

    He’s an all out player, so he still might have slid.

  196. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    M-

    I wish he were a Yankee is all I can say. One of the best ballplayers around. And by ALL reports, an awesome team mate and leader in the clubhouse.

    Let’s see what he says in the coming days.

  197. tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    he is probably just really irritated that he got hurt and wont be able to play for so long. I bet he comes out in a day or two and says he may have been too quick to react.

  198. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Doesn’t Hamilton basically have a babysitter to keep him out of trouble?

  199. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Bojo, I had to leave for work before we could finish our conversation this morning. I was really curious about your opinion that the direction of a player’s career can be blamed or credited to a pitching coach. Is there any particular reason you feel that way? I feel that a PC sure can be a help or maybe a hindrance, but that in essence, a player’s career is up to him.

  200. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    tyanksfan36 April 12th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
    he is probably just really irritated that he got hurt and wont be able to play for so long. I bet he comes out in a day or two and says he may have been too quick to react.
    ____________
    I agree and expect that to happen.

  201. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    You just don’t blast your coach, it’s classless. I am guessing Hamilton will realize that, or someone will tell him, and he’ll apologize to Anderson privately and publicly. Not a big deal if he handles it that way.

  202. GreenBeret7 April 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    randy l. April 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    “The game was the first between two teams that were 2-8 or worse through 10 games since April 30, 1918, when the Brooklyn Robins beat the Boston Braves at Ebbets Field.”

    gb7-

    who were you rooting for, braves or robins?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    It was Brooklyn. I could never cheer for any team from Boston.

  203. m April 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Hamilton is a great player, and should be given credit for conquering his demons. But no more than any other person who does the same. In fact, there are many more people who do it without access to the kind of resources that are afforded to Hamilton.

  204. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    It doesn’t reality matter if Hamilton apologizes.

    Publicly blaming your coach for something like that is anti good teammate/leader.

  205. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    It doesn’t reality matter if Hamilton apologizes. Publicly blaming your coach for something like that is anti good teammate/leader.

    *****************

    Sometimes people say things in the heat of the moment that they regret later. Apologizing is the right thing to do and it does make a difference. If he does, it puts it to bed and no one will remember this a week from now.

  206. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
    Bojo, I had to leave for work before we could finish our conversation this morning. I was really curious about your opinion that the direction of a player’s career can be blamed or credited to a pitching coach. Is there any particular reason you feel that way? I feel that a PC sure can be a help or maybe a hindrance, but that in essence, a player’s career is up to him.
    _____________
    I think what I was saying is that a GREAT pitching coach can make a big difference in helping a pitcher. I said something like a small percentage of people are great (maybe 10%), and a second tier are good (10-20%) and the rest mediocre. Just like most professions.

    But a great coach can help a pitcher mechanically, with strategy, with encouragement and direction. These players are all pros who made it there with talen, drive, determination, and hard work–but it is a struggle to thrive in the majors. Yet coaches like Dave Duncan or Curt Young or Larry R have been able to take pitchers who failed elsewhere and turn their careers around.

    In that sense, the quality of a coach has a major impact. I can probably name hundreds of examples of pitchers doing so-so until they came under the mentorship of a great coach, and then their careers took off.

    As I believe MTU stated, there are several aspects to success, and one of them is good instruction.

  207. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    “In fact, there are many more people who do it without access to the kind of resources that are afforded to Hamilton.”

    Having resources can also make quitting drugs harder, a lot harder.

  208. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    So can celebrity, money and groupies who enable your bad behavior.

  209. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Yes LGY…his baby sitter is Jesus and his Bible. He goes to 12 step program meetings all the time too. He is doing it one day at a time.

  210. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    I’d like to see how well you would behave with those resources LGY…

    In fact, i’d love to see how I would do!

    :-)

  211. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Bojo

    No, someone that works for the Rangers basically babysits him.

  212. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    I’d like to see how well you would behave with those resources LGY…

    ——

    I certainly wouldn’t piss away half my career, waste my talent for years, and torture my family through the process.

  213. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    No one is interested in your religious propaganda and this blog is not the place for it.

  214. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    Sometimes people say things in the heat of the moment that they regret later. Apologizing is the right thing to do and it does make a difference. If he does, it puts it to bed and no one will remember this a week from now

    —–

    Yeah, it’s obviously the right thing to do. I’m saying it doesnt make a difference

  215. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    LGY–

    We just put the calculations throught he Simulator, and here is the re-enactment of you or me dealing with the press after the same play. Remember, we have many resources!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  216. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Sometimes people say things in the heat of the moment that they regret later. Apologizing is the right thing to do and it does make a difference. If he does, it puts it to bed and no one will remember this a week from now

    —–

    Yeah, it’s obviously the right thing to do. I’m saying it doesnt really make a difference in terms of him being a great teammate.

    A great leader and teammate never says that stuff from the start.

  217. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
    No one is interested in your religious propaganda and this blog is not the place for it.
    ________
    LOL! What a jerk!

  218. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    LGY – If Hamilton apologizes to Anderson and his teammates in the clubhouse, you don’t think they will forgive him? I do. It’s not that big a deal is it?

  219. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Bojo, thanks! I agree that a great coach can have an impact, but of course he still has to have raw material. A pitcher who just lacks the basic talent for getting hitters out on a consistent basis is not going to turn into Cy Young no matter how great the instruction. I think there’s only so much a PC, no matter how great, can do. If the pitcher has raw talent, sure – a great PC can get him to harness it and become a very good pitcher. Even saying a pitcher has raw talent is rather iffy. I mean, usually what that means is that the pitcher can throw the ball hard……..that’s it. Ever notice how guys with bad control that have good arms are considered real talents, but guys who don’t throw hard and have great control are not? A pitcher may have a good arm, but if he lacks other skills, like knowing the art of pitching (and all that entails), he’s not much of a pitcher.

  220. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    No, you are the jerk for posting your religious nonsense on here. That’s a slam dunk.

  221. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Bets–those guys don’t make it ot the majors if they don’t have the raw material…and most of them have had some seasoning in minors to learn the craft. But a great coach can still take their game up a notch.

  222. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Hamilton has a guy that has to follow him around. Got it after he relapsed and was found doing body shots off college coeds

  223. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Yawn…you bore me John. Stop trolling and stop trying to get attention. I’ll talk about whatever I want whenever I want…or tell jokes whenever I want. You’re just a little jerk with a Napoleonic complex. Go away.

  224. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
    Hamilton has a guy that has to follow him around. Got it after he relapsed and was found doing body shots off college coeds
    ____________
    What I would call a good Friday night.

    He still has to take responsibility for his own sobriety. No babysitter can do it for him.

  225. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Hamilton doesn’t even handle his own money.

    The Rangers give his meal money to his babysitter on road trips.

  226. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Uh—let me just ask one question to both JF and LGY…

    So what?

  227. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....-1.2815205

    Hughes admitted he is worried about producing speeds closer to 88 or 89 mph than a preferred 93 or 94. “This is my job, my livelihood,” he said, “and I don’t have the stuff I know I’m capable of. It’s worrisome, it’s frustrating.”

    If it still were spring training, when the first glimpses of Hughes’ deceleration appeared, he would think nothing of it.

    “Spring training, you don’t really get lost in velocity readings and so on,” he said. “This is magnified, obviously, with two bad starts . . . ”

    He feels “good,” he said. He has experienced “dead arm before,” but the mystery now is that “it’s not a sense of dead arm. It’s more just arm strength. Dead arm you definitely feel. When you lose some strength, it’s not something you necessary feel right away.”
    ******

    We can probably forget the dead arm theory. For folks who sometimes forget that players are human beings, not just robots, Phil’s quotes could serve as a reminder that they are. Athletes’ careers are finite – you never know when you’ve thrown your last pitch, taken your last golf swing, thrown your last TD pass. Most of us can do our jobs for as long as we want them – not an athlete.

  228. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I’m just advising you to keep your religious comments off this blog. Not everyone agrees with your views and this is not the forum for it. Hope that’s clear, Blojo.

  229. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Wasn’t Verlander’s velo down in April a few years ago only to bounce back? These things are unpredictable, sort of like comas.

  230. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
    I’m just advising you to keep your religious comments off this blog. Not everyone agrees with your views and this is not the forum for it. Hope that’s clear, Blojo.
    ______________
    What’s clear is I have no respect for anything you say, nor care about your opinions. Hope that’s clear.

    Now I am trying to have an adult conversation here with some others. Please stop trying to interrupt.

  231. pat April 12th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Lots of people say they forgive but do they forget?

  232. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    pat April 12th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
    Lots of people say they forgive but do they forget?
    __________
    Don’t know–can’t recall.

  233. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    So what?

    —–

    He’s a douche and s bad teammate :mad:

  234. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Rich, yes it was – I thought it was due to the workload from the year before, but someone mentioned that Verlander had had his workload increased gradually and so that wasn’t it.

    Off-topic Rich – how do you think the Knicks will do in the playoffs? Win 1 game? 2? I didn’t watch the Bulls game, but they played hard (not well in the 3rd quarter)………Of course they didn’t have Amare, though the Bulls are better anyway. I still feel pretty good about them. I will be very happy if they are competitive in the series.

  235. West Coast Yankee Fan April 12th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Dismissed Blojo.

  236. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
    So what?

    —–

    He’s a douche and s bad teammate
    ____________
    Oh. Why didn’t you just say so in the first place?

  237. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    I’d still take Hamilton anytime if the Rangers want to do a Granderson for Hamilton swap.

  238. LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Oh. Why didn’t you just say so in the first place?

    —–

    I had to present my case first.

  239. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
    Oh. Why didn’t you just say so in the first place?

    —–

    I had to present my case first.
    _______________
    :-)

  240. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Betsy

    Anyway, if Hughes isn’t hurt, I think he’ll bounce back.

    I agree with Hahn that the Celtics are a better opponent for the Knicks than the Heat. He’s picking the Celtics in six, I think. I’ll take that Knicks is six. That’s partly the fanboy in me, but hey, I’m human…with many accompanying faults.

  241. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    As I said, I’d take Hamilton on the Yankees any time, even if it means I have to buy him a case of Massengill each month.

  242. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    “Massengill”

    What is that?

  243. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Google it.

  244. Carl April 12th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    <—- Brought up the Cole Hamels theory when it was first reported his velocity was lower than normal.

    I hope I am worng.

  245. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Rich–

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8OPxZvCAuw

  246. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    And why does he need such?

  247. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Rich, hey, you’re allowed, lol. When I go to the track, I never bet against a horse I love even if I don’t think he or she will win – I just wouldn’t bet. I don’t think the Knicks will win, but their games against the Celtics have generally been competitive.

    Hamels had thrown a million and a half innings the year before he struggled, though…….

  248. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
    And why does he need such?

    ____________
    LGY April 12th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    He’s a douche and s bad teammate

  249. Jerkface April 12th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    I would definitely take Hamilton on my team, that doesn’t have anything to do with the discussion currently though.

  250. Betsy April 12th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    My prediction for Phil this year was that he’d have an ERA about 4.25 to 4.50. He’s going to have to work awfully hard to have an ERA that low, lol. One guy on ESPN (some Fantasy dude) compared him to Javy – which is beyond asinine. Javy was not old, but he was 10 years older than Phil and had many seasons of 200 IP behind him. There’s no way the two are comparable …….

  251. Rich in NJ April 12th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Bojo

    *slaps head*

    I would take him too. Jeter would set him straight in a NY second…or else.

  252. BoJo April 12th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    JF–

    I agree…and I don’t think he is a bad guy either. Joking aside, he is an extraordinary talent.

    And with that, I bid you good night night people.

    Hopefully, visions of Neal Beaver will not keep me awake tonight.

  253. BoJo April 13th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    “Hi Nick, I’m a big Mets fan, and my name is Neal Beaver. This is my girl friend Honey Bush.”

    OMG–more nightmares…

  254. Carl April 13th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Juan Miranda hits a pinch hit 3 run bomb

  255. West Coast Yankee Fan April 13th, 2011 at 12:26 am

    The bad news for Sux fans: The Sux are 7-for-52 with RISP.

    The ‘really’ bad news for Sux fans: John Lackey, he of the 15.58 ERA goes in Wednesday night’s series finale.

    :)

  256. Vineyard Yankee April 13th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Hamilton’s companion / roommate is Jerry Narron. He was long before the coed incident as well.

  257. Vineyard Yankee April 13th, 2011 at 12:34 am

    WCYF:

    I see ‘old’ Blojo (Georgie) was spouting off again with his usual BS. Instead of the usual sick sexual innuendos, lame dumb jokes and silly childish nicknames his has now become a ‘minister in training’. Time to disinfect the pulpit !

    LMAO ! LMAO !

  258. Vineyard Yankee April 13th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Typo:……..s/b…… he has now become……….

  259. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Am I missing something? All Bojo did was comment on Hamiltons very very outspoken religious affiliation. I see the Hive Mind is a bit faulty.

  260. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 12:40 am

    Wrong Narron.

  261. Vineyard Yankee April 13th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Thank you, I stand corrected, it is Johnny Narron.

  262. m April 13th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    That comment didn’t trigger any bells for me. Bible thumping by athletes is nothing new. I saw it as a joke. But the funniest part is anyone thinking that Hamilton is armed only with a bible.

  263. Vineyard Yankee April 13th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    ‘But the funniest part is anyone thinking that Hamilton is armed only with a bible’.

    ===============

    Quite true, he has lots of family and friends who support him.

  264. tyanksfan36 April 13th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    I read Hamilton’s book. It was really good. It made me feel bad that he got caught all up in that stuff but happy that he was able to pull himself out of it.

  265. m April 13th, 2011 at 1:01 am

    And a babysitter, tight pursestrings, and frequent drug tests.

  266. m April 13th, 2011 at 1:05 am

    Any guesses on who gets called up to replace Ayala?

  267. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 1:19 am

    its a crapshoot, it could be Garrison or anyone really.

    Here are the guys on the 40 man:

    Steve Garrison, Jose Ortegano, Noesi, Pope

    Pope is on the minor league DL.

  268. m April 13th, 2011 at 1:28 am

    Thanks, JF. Garrison sounds like a possibility. They gave him a good look in ST. Didn’t look that good IIRC.

    Comment of the day courtesy of Extra Bases commenter: “Last year was the bridge year to nowhere!”

  269. m April 13th, 2011 at 1:58 am

    Damon re: Boston fans, “I get booed. They absolutely despise me. I just have to say, ‘You’re welcome for ’04. You’re welcome for making it fun again over there.”

    :mad:

  270. GreenBeret7 April 13th, 2011 at 2:23 am

    It won’t be Garrison any time soon. He just got hammered tonight in 3 innings at Trenton. They’ll need to DFA/trade somebody and bring Sisco or Okamoto up.

  271. Median April 13th, 2011 at 2:37 am

    from Donnie Collins:

    “I will add that Chad tells me it doesn’t sound like they’re going to go the Steve Garrison route. So they may try to find a way to get Andy Sisco on the 40-man.
    Just a guess, though.”

  272. West Coast Yankee Fan April 13th, 2011 at 3:11 am

    Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Am I missing something? All Bojo did was comment on Hamiltons very very outspoken religious affiliation. I see the Hive Mind is a bit faulty.

    *****************

    Yes you missed something. No surprise, you miss things all the time. Like calling the Japanese nuclear incident no big deal when it happened because you just had to pretend to be an expert on along with everything else in the universe. Now it was just graded today a type seven disaster – the same level as Chernobyl.

  273. GreenBeret7 April 13th, 2011 at 3:21 am

    Just a wild guess, but, Kevin Russo is on a very short leash. He plays a few positions, but, none at an outstanding level and his bat is nothing to brag about. The Yanks have better. It’s that or backdate somebody on the DL to the 60 Day DL. It will depend on the results of Feliciano’s MRI tomorrow.

  274. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 3:45 am

    Now it was just graded today a type seven disaster – the same level as Chernobyl.

    And yet, it isn’t anywhere near on the level of Chernobyl. You do not have an informed understanding on the situation or the relative nature of either. You are a concern troll. The situations are very different.

    Here is a source:

    The International Atomic Energy Agency has supported the Japanese government’s analysis that the release of radioactive materials from the Fukushima Daiichi plant is on a smaller scale than the 1986 Chernobyl accident.

    [...]

    Flory said the Japanese government has provided credible data to the IAEA. He supported Japan’s analysis that the cumulative dose is about 10 percent of the one from the Chernobyl plant.

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/13_10.html

  275. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 3:46 am

    Now tell me what any of that has to do with you and your twin jumping on Bojo about some religious tangent that he never started? I’m guessing it is something from your long standing jihad but which had no relevance here.

  276. West Coast Yankee Fan April 13th, 2011 at 3:55 am

    It’s a new hobby of mine pointing out when you’re wrong.

  277. West Coast Yankee Fan April 13th, 2011 at 3:58 am

    No, you’re wrong about Japan. That’s what you can’t handle is I’m better informed than you are. You’ve been wrong since the beginning.

  278. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 4:06 am

    If you’re saying that this is as bad as Chernobyl, then you’re wearing your ignorance on your sleeve. A rating system without granularity might rate them similarly but they are not anywhere near the same.

    The radiation levels, area of irradiation, damage to infrastructure, ruination of the land, just not the same.

    In the exclusion zone a reporter drove around with a geiger counter and the highest recorded radiation was .002688 Sv per day. The highest level recorded anywhere was 24 sv per day in the reactor room. Chernobyl was 7200 sv per day.

  279. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 4:09 am

    New hobby same as the old hobby, being wrong all the time.

  280. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 7:08 am

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scie.....t-13048916

    An article that talks about why it received the INES rating it did, and why it doesn’t mean its the same as Chernobyl.

  281. Fran the original April 13th, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Good morning.

    Still raining here. Hope it clears up so we can get some baseball tonight.

  282. Carlo April 13th, 2011 at 7:40 am

    What other baseball blog has two mopes arguing about who is more educated on the subject of nuclear radiation at 4AM than this one? Priceless stuff.

    $5 for the first right answer.

  283. blake April 13th, 2011 at 7:43 am

    2-9….ouch! Not to fear Red Sox nation, John Lackey is pitching tonight :(

  284. m April 13th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Fran,

    Junk! I hope they have baseball. 3 days without Yankees baseball is an eternity.

    Have they announced what they’re going to do about the rotation? I’m not keen on pitching Hughes and possibly skipping Freddie.

    I know they want to see something from Hughes and the only way to do that is to throw him out there.

    But Freddie has yet to make his debut. And Hughes still sounds baffled.

  285. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    It seems like the Yankees want to be shocked / surprised when Hughes takes the mound and is suddenly throwing 93 mph. Why don’t they buy a radar gun and check Hughes side session, especailly if he is doing all this long toss and changing how far he is landing towards home plate? Then you won’t be surprised at the results in the game and he can just treat it as normal.

  286. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    The mystery element of this whole Hughes velocity thing is really baffling to me.

  287. m April 13th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    blake,

    How demoralizing is it to the red sox that the team that’s beating them also has a terrible record.

    They’re not buried by any means. Things could happen. The Yankees and the Jays could falter. But there might be a point when it might look impossible. I say at least a couple of months.

    Unless the infighting consumes them. :P

  288. blake April 13th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    JF,

    I don’t understand that either….hold a gun on him in his bullpen and see if he’s progressing. The problem is that it seems like it’s also a confidence thing with Hughes if he doesn’t have his heater…..that’s something he’s going to have to get past regardless because he’s not always going to have his best stuff when he takes the mound. However, I would resist sending him back out there until the Yankees and Hughes himself sees the velocity coming back.

  289. m April 13th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    I said the first start that it must be mechanical. But that doesn’t explain the magnitude of the drop in velocity.

    He needs to become more concerned with his mechanics, and let the velocity creep back to its norm.

    We know he’s not following through. For sure on the top. Someone also described how his base is not quite there either.

    These kinds of things really need to be ironed out off the field first.

  290. blake April 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    m,

    It’s worse because they are losing at Fenway also….they aren’t historically a good road team so if they are going to dig themselves out of this hole they are probably going to have to do a big chunk of it at the Green crackerjack box.

    They are going to play better but as you say…at some point they are in fact making it much harder to climb out of the hole they are digging. Spotting the rest of a competitive division 5 games isn’t what the best team ever had in mind I’m sure.

  291. Carlo April 13th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    Everyone is talking about the Red Sox being 2-9, the bottom line however is that they are probably playing as poorly as they can or will for the majority of the season and we only have a 4 game lead on them, 5 in the loss column. If all things were equal in August and we had a 4 game lead on them, we wouldn’t be so cavalier about the situation. Just something to keep in mind. Now if they continue to sputter and we get hot over the next 2-3 weeks and the 4 game lead swells to 8 or 9, then we will have reason to smirk.

    If nothing else, I think this start for them has proven that their pitching is a significant problem for them. Outside of that, I’m not taking anything else for granted.

  292. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    4 game lead in august is good.

  293. m April 13th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    blake,

    Reading some of the comments on Pete’s blog, they target the usual suspects. Theo, Crawford, Francona, and even Gonzalez. Something about Gonzalez was brought in to pepper balls off and over the monster. :roll:

    Oh, and they’re clamoring for more Lowry. !!

    Hopefully they have one of those season where the rotation, lineup, and bullpen take turns screwing it up for them.

  294. 108 stitches April 13th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Gammons is nursing a powerful hangover this morning. Sole possession of last place and worst record in baseball is the big contributor.

  295. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    I am very shocked that Gonzalez isn’t leading the league in doubles and HR after 5 games in Fenway. He is going to have to work overtime to reach his 60 60 quota.

  296. Carlo April 13th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    4 game lead in august is good.
    —————————————

    Yes, its good, but we wouldn’t necessarily be so merry about it, especially if we had a lot of head to head games remaining.

  297. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 13th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Does anyone know if Jeter is injured? He’s playing like a mutt.

  298. m April 13th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    The Sox will most likely dig themselves out of this hole. But what we’re seeing confirms what many of us said. That their pitching was as suspect as ours or even moreso. And their lineup wasn’t all that great.

    Francona is the one that baffles me. Wonder where Crawford will hit today?

  299. blake April 13th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Of course its not the end of the season for the Sox…..they could come.back.from this and they will play better but some of their holes are being exposed. Let’s just say Id rather it be them with the 2-9 start than the Yanks.

  300. MTU April 13th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Morning folks.

    Re Hughes:

    Good point made about putting a radar gun on him in the pen (perhaps they do ?).

    If there is no upgrade to his velo or command he shouldn’t be sent to the hill IMO. This should be not some sort of experiment.

    He either has enough and is showing it, or he doesn’t and further analysis is required.

    He doesn’t have “dead arm” more like “tired arm”.

    Different problem.

    The long toss should help but no guarantee.

    I hope not not but may even have an as yet undiagnosed injury.

    1 more start max. unless he shows improvement.

    Re the Sux:

    I know it’s Boston and they are not supposed to have it there but
    they find themselves in quicksand.

    Seems like the more they struggle the deeper they sink.

    Do the math to amuse yourselves.

    If the Sux should be swept they would have to go around .620 for the entire remainder of the season just to get to 95 wins.

    Not easy.

    The more they lose the deeper the hole gets.

    Something definitely smells rotten in Beantown.

    :)

  301. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 13th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    At what point does Jeter get moved way down in the lineup? How can one go from 334 to 270 in one year? Building that mansion and coveting material possessions, and quite frankly, being old and in decline is finally going to prove itself in 2011. Jetes doesn’t lose since he gets overpaid with his whopping new contract. How nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  302. blake April 13th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    The Sox are going to have problems against LHP…..especially if Youkalks doesn’t hit.

  303. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 13th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    In one year, Jeter in full player decline mode, makes more money that all of the posters on this board combined but gets to doink every hot model in NYC. That’s called living lmao.

  304. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    M, what do you want to do with Phil?

  305. MTU April 13th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Did the Mets know Feliciano was damaged goods ?

    I want a refund.

    :)

  306. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Blake, I dont’ think it’s as simple as Phil not having confidence when he doesn’t have his best stuff…………he’s not had his best stuff before and he’s survived, even if barely. This is about recognizing that he has absolutely nothing without his FB – nothing. He’s naked, in essence, without his FB. If he’d actually had breaking pitches, he would be better off – maybe not a great deal better, but he’d be able to get some hitters out. Either this teaches him a lesson and he makes a total committment to his curve and change or it doesn’t…..and if it doesn’t, then he’s only going to be hurting himself in the long run.

    I probably would not be sending Phil out there – what’s the point? So he can get tattooed?

  307. m April 13th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    I want to skip him due to the rain postponements. I’d send him to Tampa to throw against minor leaguers. Continue to try to build up arm strength.

    And I’d have Nardi (if he’s still with us) look at video. Though I’m sure he already has.

  308. blake April 13th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    MTU,

    I don’t understand the need to try and cram all this between starts…….they have Colon, skip Hughes a turn and see if he improves. Im not surprised that they are keeping Hughes on schedule but unless significant improvement has occurred since Friday……Im not sure it’s the right move, we’ll.see.

  309. MTU April 13th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Blake-

    The Sox are having more problems than anyone could have anticpated.

    Are they sure there isn’t a “Murphy” hidden on their roster somewhere ?

    Too funny.

    Lackey and Dice-bb make Nova and Garcia look like superstars.

    And cc looks like a deer caught in headlights.

    :)

  310. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    All I read here was that Phil had great and repeatable mechanics, but he’s always having mechanical issues- and not small ones, either. He also seems to have a hard time throwing non-FB type pitches with any consistency – even ones, like the curve, that he once had. I know he was injured 2 years in a row, but he didn’t hurt his arm. I don’t remember how hard he threw in the Texas near no-hitter game, but it does seem like he’s never been the same. I suppose it’s understandable if his stuff never returned – his leg injuries were bad – but there’s no reason he should have lost the feel completely and permanently of his breaking pitches. Granted, he hardly threw the curve as a reliever and when he did, it was smacked around – and obviously not the change.

  311. blake April 13th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Betsy,

    His stuff hasn’t ever been down this much….he seems discouraged and I can’t blame him. I think they should see some improvement in side sessions before sending him back out there…..maybe they have but it seems like they are trying to force this to happen (for the velocity to come back) and it doesn’t always work that way……it’ll happen when it happens.

  312. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    M, I probably would just send him to Tampa as well…………..there’s no way this is going to be a quick fix thing and the Yankees are deluding themselves by thinking that one day Phil is just going to wake up and be ok. In the meantime, everytime he gets plastered by another team, it’s another hit to his psyche.

  313. m April 13th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Worrying about arm strength/velocity is the most like culprit for the wacky mechanics.

    Taking him out of the rotation would serve as the ultimate motivation. I think he’d move heaven and earth to get back in it.

  314. blake April 13th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    “All I read here was that Phil had great and repeatable mechanics”

    He does….that doesn’t mean they can’t break down or get out of sync. I don’t think its a definite that this is mechanical ….he doesn’t look like he’s getting good extension and it doesn’t look like he’s driving with his legs (finishing high)…..he looks tentative with his delivery like he’s guiding the ball instead of turning it loose. Those are just my impressions from 2 starts…..it may have nothing to do with anything.

  315. MTU April 13th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Blake-

    GB pointed out something important the other day.

    I certainly took note of it.

    Hughes threw closer to 200 innings last season if you count the post season (which I do).

    His previous high was around 140, and that was a while ago.

    That’s a jump of around 60 innings, possibly a bit more.

    It wouldn’t surprise me then that his arm has not responded as well as it might have.

    The normal Verducci is around 40.

    In any case, it’s not an exact science just a guide.

    Some pitchers can do OK violating it some not.

    I just hope the methods they are using to get his arm strength back will eventually yield fruit, and he has not sustained an injury of some kind.

    Hoping for a solution. We really need him.

  316. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Blake, of course he’s discouraged – as he said, it’s his livelihood. He has to be thinking the worst: what happens if his velocity never comes back? This is what he’s trained to be his entire life. We talk about expectations that fans had/have for him, but in the end, it’s still his career. He faced the same sort of crisis of confidence in 2008 – he admitted he wondered about his future – but at least there was a reason for his struggles and broken ribs heal. There is no guarantee that his FB will return, that he will ever have the career he probably thought he was supposed to have. That’s why I feel sorry for him…………it’s hard not too.

  317. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Blake, that’s what Phil has said as well, but why would he be having these delivery issues at this point in his career? People on other boards who saw him in the minors have said that his delivery has never been the same in the majors as it was in the minors – again, tweaking by the Yankees?

  318. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    M, possibly. It’s like when you have a cold and you have to breathe through your mouth. Normally, you breathe and don’t even think about it, but when you have to all of a sudden force yourself to think about it, it’s not so easy.

  319. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    what a surprise, i dont read the blog for like 2 weeks in the morning, so today i get a chance to jump on in the a.m. and what do i find?

    same person whining about phil again.

    like i never left…

  320. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    If you compare how he throws in that trenton thunder youtube clip to now, it looks virtually identical. There is going to have to be some real nitpicking to suggest his delivery is not the same.

  321. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Give me a freaking break, ______. We’re all talking about Phil. You have a problem with me? TAKE IT UP WITH THE MODERATORS AND TRY TO HAVE ME BANNED. Short of that, just be quiet already. This is a problem the team has and Phil has and it’s beyond sad that you can’t regognize it. Go ahead – try and have me banned because I bore you. LOL Good luck.

  322. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Why don’t you go back to the rock you crawled out from under?

  323. blake April 13th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Betsy,

    I really don’t know…most all pitchers struggle with their delivery from time to time, its just a difficult thing to keep in line. Mariano Rivera is a freak of nature….everyone else has to work to keep things right.

  324. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    just an observation

  325. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Even if that’s the case, Jerkface, he doesn’t seem to be the same pitcher. No point in wishing that was the case as you just have to deal with the situation now……….

  326. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Stop observing…….

  327. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    id never want you banned betsy, your phil rants are nothing but informative, all 45 per day. i’ve been looking forward to your phil rants every monring now for, oh, i’d say 60 days or so.

  328. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Blake, I know that’s true, but it seems to happen a lot with Phil……In any case, he’s an inveterate tinkerer and that’s part of the problem. He keeps switching grips on curves, trying out new pitches, that sort of thing………..there’s no real consistency there..

  329. m April 13th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    That’s my cue.

    G’night.

  330. MTU April 13th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Right now the wheel of fortune has spit out the worst case scenario with Phil.

    We have a Pitcher whose bread and butter are his FB command and life with incomplete secondary stuff.

    That combo is not a good one.

    For him to be effective the minimum would be extremely precise control which may be related to the tired arm.

    Mechanics may be affected too.

    His confidence is down right now as well.

    Learning to pitch with reduced velocity in the middle of a season in not a formula for success for any pitcher.

    If the 2ndary stuff were better things would be different.

    Imagine throwing that many cutters ?

    Sign of desperation if you ask me.

    IMO the Yanks need to concentrate on improving Phil’s command, and improving his 2ndary offerings.

    The velo may or may not come back.

    I hope strength testing has been performed, and an MRI may be in the cards.

    Again, fingers crossed, hoping for the best.

  331. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Give me a break, lol. My rants about Phil? I give up – we’re all talking about him, but you pick on me. You’re not worth spending any time on.

  332. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Showers all day today, what if this game gets rained out? :x

  333. Betsy April 13th, 2011 at 8:40 am

    MTU, if they want to keep him up here, they do have to concentrate on improving his secondary pitches (that should have been a priority anyway), but Phil has already admitted that he doesn’t have great command (thought that was something he did have in the minors). If his arm is really weak, I don’t think his command will be any good – that’s the thing. The best thing to do is really to send him down to Tampa and just build arm strength, for however long that takes.

  334. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    relax people, he threw @ 91 last outing according to pitch trax, regardless of what john sterling said. he usually throws 94 95 in game. he is missing a couple of mph, its not unusual. lincicum was throwing below 90 all last april but was hitting 97 at the end of the season.

    phil will be phine, his velocity will go up slightly each outing. he needs to have more confidence pitching without his best fastball though.

  335. jonathan p April 13th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    am i the only person who thinks that jesus montero could help aid this anemic offense?

    check out his start

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=524968

  336. MTU April 13th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Betsy-

    I agree but we’re not there yet.

    More time needed for evaluation.

    If the next start is sub par I think phil will be skipped and they go from there.

    Perhaps Pat M. is right and in a month or so this will turn out to have just been a bad dream.

    I’m a little more snaguine about i than that. I am starting to think the innings hangover from last season may be with us longer than we’d like.

    I hope I’m dead wrong.

    Got to run. hike today. Later.

  337. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    The problem with this, if it becomes a thing, is basically counting Hughes out for a months worth of starts. He has tanked the very beginning of the season, that sucks.

    Once they work this out I suspect he’ll be throwing early and long tossing often next spring.

  338. Melkmanisinhotlanta April 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Phil misses Dave Eilland. Plain and simple. Without his minor league coach he is useless.

  339. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    montero might help with the bat a bit, but it seems hitting is not our problem.

    but the problem with that is that he needs work as a catcher. are you going to sit down martin who’s been raking, to get jesus into the lineup? if so, you are pretty much giving up on him as a catcher. is that worth the short-term help he might give us with the bat (remember he is currently hitting aaa pitchers)?

  340. IDCWYT April 13th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    I heard an interview of Rick Peretersen yesterday. He thinks that Hughes’ decrease in velocity may be due to him throwing the cutter too much. He said he has seen it in a lot of pitchers.

  341. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    sorry, meant to say “if not” instead of “if so”

  342. YsGuy April 13th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    petersen is unemployed for a reason. how’s that victor zambrano ‘fix’ going?

  343. Jerkface April 13th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    petersen is unemployed for a reason. how’s that victor zambrano ‘fix’ going?

    Buck Showalter was unemployed for quite a while “for a reason”. Peterson is probably a good coach, though I don’t think he can speak about Hughes seeing as how he doesn’t have first hand knowledge of the situation. His offering of an outside opinion based on what limited info he has is ok, but not gospel.

  344. West Coast Yankee Fan April 13th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Sending Hughes down after a couple of bad starts makes no sense at all. You first try to work through it and not disrupt your rotation or batter his confidence anymore than it is already. I am seeing a lot of overreaction. Let the coaches work with him and See what happens. There is nothing obvious, no apparent injury or significant mechanical problem.

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