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Pregame notes: Another lefty likely finished for the season

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Apr 14, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Pedro Feliciano had an MRI this winter before he signed with the Yankees. It showed no problems. When he got to spring training, he pitched with no pain and no cause for concern. In his fourth spring outing, he allowed one hit and struck out the other three batters he faced. It seemed to be another good sign, but that’s the day Feliciano first felt something in his shoulder.

“That day that I pitched, I remember I threw long toss with Soriano and I was fine,” he said. “I did my short toss and everything, then in the bullpen I was fine. After I got my first out, I got a single bloop to the righty and then I got my two strikeouts. I got the last two outs, but it wasn’t me. That inning was weird. I’ve never had that, so I thought it would go away. That’s why I kept pitching, but the next day was bad.”

Initially, Feliciano thought it was just unexpected soreness. When it lingered, he initially labeled it a triceps issue. Gradually, the diagnosis shifted closer to the shoulder, and yesterday he found out that there’s a small tear in his shoulder capsule. Feliciano believes it’s a new injury, one that happened that day in Florida, not over time at Citi Field. He wonders if it’s connected to all the weight lifting he did this spring.

Bottom line, Feliciano will see Dr. Andrews on Monday for a second opinion, but he’s expecting to have surgery. The Yankees are expecting the same. Brian Cashman called it a “very obvious” diagnosis, and surgery will keep him out all year.

Even if Andrews says surgery is not necessary, Feliciano will still be out several more weeks leaving the Yankees without their primary left-handed reliever, the guy they gave two year, $8 million this winter. The Yankees were well aware of Feliciano’s workload with the Mets, but they thought this was a risk worth taking.

“He was definitely abused over there,” Cashman said. “But we knew that.”

Here’s Cashman. It’s worth a listen. He talked for about 20 minutes about the Yankees own history of overusing pitchers. Cashman said he spoke to Joe Torre about it several times, asking that he not go to the same guys over and over again, and he seems happy that it’s no longer an issue with Joe Girardi.

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• For now, the Yankees are going to stick with Boone Logan as their only left-handed reliever. There’s no one in the system they’re considering calling up at the moment, and Girardi said he doesn’t expect to find a lefty on the market right now.

• The most obvious left-handed addition might be Andy Sisco, but Cashman said Sisco’s fastball in Scranton hasn’t been what it was when the Yankees saw him this winter. Sisco might be an option down the road, but Cashman said he’s not an option right now.

• Here’s Joe Girardi on the bullpen without Feliciano: “The bullpen is what it is. We believe that we have right-handers that are capable of getting left-handers out. At this point, Pedro has to make a decision on what he’s going to do. It’s disappointing. We were counting on him to be a big left-hander out of our bullpen. Boone Logan stepped up for us last year, and he’s going to have to do it again.”

• The Associated Press reports that Major League Baseball is leaning toward expanded use of instant replay next season.

• Both Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos have been placed on the Double-A disabled list because of blisters. Cashman said he believe it’s because the seams are smaller — not as raised — on minor league baseballs, which might have been an issue for Betances and Banuelos shifting from big league spring training to the minor league season.

• In other minor league injury news, Josh Norris reports that Gary Sanchez is headed for the disabled list in Charleston. Not sure why.

• Obviously today is a pretty big start for Phil Hughes, as big as a third start of the season can be anyway. Both Girardi and Cashman said Hughes has generally been slow to generate velocity, that it usually doesn’t come until a little later in the season. Last year was an exception to the rule. Girardi said he still considers the velocity a secondary issue. “I wasn’t getting so caught up in it,” he said. “It comes down to locating the ball and changing speeds.”

ORIOLES
Brian Roberts 2B
Nick Markakis RF
Derrek Lee 1B
Vladimir Guerrero DH
Luke Scott LF
Adam Jones CF
Mark Reynolds 3B
Matt Wieters C
Cesar Izturis SS

Associated Press photo of Feliciano

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61 Responses to “Pregame notes: Another lefty likely finished for the season”

  1. ac1 April 14th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    at this point, shouldnt Igawa at least get a look for the pen?

  2. Betsy April 14th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Not much else to say except it sucks

  3. joeman April 14th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    1. ac1 April 14th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    at this point, shouldnt Igawa at least get a look for the pen?
    ———————————————–
    nope

  4. Benny Blanco April 14th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Anyone else want to go on the DL? any takers?

    **hand raised**

    Now we lose Feliciano…UGHHH!! Marte, now Pedro.

  5. Jerkface April 14th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    If you listen to the audio, Cashman doesn’t really throw Torre under the bus. He says he went to the Manager and Pitching coach and talked to them about reliever usage, and they said that they always ask the players how they are feeling etc.

    So then Torre met with proctor and villone and others and told them to stop telling the manager/pitching coach they are fine if they aren’t, because if you lie to them they are going to use you.

  6. YsGuy April 14th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    im constantly surprised by how much shorter the citi field fences are for the visiting team than they are when the mets are battting…

    jonathan herera? really?

  7. GreenBeret7 April 14th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    brian Cashman is a true leader. He’s saying all of this to get people to stop complaining about Hughes. He’s taking a hit for the team.

  8. Jerkface April 14th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    I mean that Cash met with proctor and Villone

  9. Rich in NJ April 14th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    “Pedro Feliciano had an MRI this winter before he signed with the Yankees. It showed no problems. ”

    I don’t buy this. Any pitcher of a similar age and workload is not going to have a clean MRI.

  10. Jerkface April 14th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    No problems could mean no capsule tear. Doesn’t mean theres no regular wear.

  11. tcompany April 14th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Repost:

    Jerkface April 14th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Yes… or an email address. Somehow I have managed to post on this site for 4 years and not a single person has “found out who I am” or could unless I really wanted them to. It doesn’t happen by accident.

    no one is hacking lo-hud accounts.
    Guessing password reset questions? maybe…
    hacking? media hyped fiction.

    Here is what happened: Crazy guy becomes best friends with someone, gets access to the lohud fantasy league, does other kinds of trickery to get people give them email addresses / names. Then uses very easy means from that information to get more.

    Its not complicated. Don’t become best friends with crazy people, its simple. Someone decided to team up with said crazy person and started this mess.

    _______

    That is how it started, Jerkface. But don’t blame Trisha. I have dependable ways of finding out everyone’s information. GB7, you, Betsy, and Pat M were not in fantasy league, but I received the information of all 4 of you. Plus most other posters on this site. IP addresses, email addresses, etc.

    When you go out into the wilderness and begin hunting your prey, it’s becomes more than just a sport. It becomes a way of life :)

  12. GreenBeret7 April 14th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Rich in NJ April 14th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
    “Pedro Feliciano had an MRI this winter before he signed with the Yankees. It showed no problems. ”

    I don’t buy this. Any pitcher of a similar age and workload is not going to have a clean MRI.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    You’ve uncovered another conspiracy. Cashman is trying to wreck the Yankees from within.

  13. Jerkface April 14th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    You don’t have a dependable way of finding anything out with someone to do initial leg work for you.

  14. tcompany April 14th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Cashman did grow up a Red Sox fan. A reasonable and potentially factual conspiracy.

  15. Rich in NJ April 14th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    “You’ve uncovered another conspiracy. Cashman is trying to wreck the Yankees from within.”

    Yeah, whatever.

    But back to reality, my point is simply that to characterize an MRI of a veteran pitcher as having “no problems” is almost certainly inaccurate.

  16. Jerkface April 14th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    But back to reality, my point is simply that to characterize an MRI of a veteran pitcher as having “no problems” is almost certainly inaccurate.

    No problems could be a relative assessment.

  17. Rich in NJ April 14th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    “No problems could be a relative assessment.”

    Right, relative for a similarly situated pitcher, but hardly clean.

  18. Rich in NJ April 14th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    OT, audio of the sound of the Japanese earthquake recorded underwater:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

  19. GreenBeret7 April 14th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Montero has the night off for Scranton. Jose Gil is catching. Amaury Sanit is starting tonight.

  20. cloverweb April 14th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    VILLONE. he is lefty, available, inexpensive, and reliable.

  21. YsGuy April 14th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    mets really look like they could lose 100+. hard to believe with thier hitters, but they are likely

    the worst pitching staff in baseball.

  22. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 14th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    “Here is what happened: Crazy guy becomes best friends with someone, gets access to the lohud fantasy league”

    jerkface, you’re making this sound a lot more simple than it truly is.

    1. C*9 and I were very good friends. You’re right about that.

    2. C*9 DID NOT get access to the lohud fantasy league through me, if that is what you are suggesting.

    3. C*9 obtained personal information on posters who had nothing to do with the fantasy league and who were in no way connected to anyone in the fantasy league. The people had never published their email addresses on lohud.

    C*9 is extremely adept with the use of the computer and extremely sophisticated in his ability to find out whatever information he wants to find out. That is obvious.

    I don’t think anyone here deserved any of the things that were done to them. I have had some knock-down drag outs with some posters here in the past and have really felt great resentment toward them, but I would never publish their private information as a means of getting back at them. I cannot imagine having the kind of demon in me that would allow me to do something like that.

  23. PaulieNumbers April 14th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Reinier Casanova signs with us.

  24. arjay April 14th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    And no comment on all of this from Chad or Sam. Silence speaks volumes.

  25. Triple Short of a Cycle April 14th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    trisha,

    Well then their information was posted somewhere online unless he hacked into the loHud database but judging by his posts he doesn’t appear to be that smart

  26. BoJo April 14th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Trisha–

    Was any contact info for those people in your e-mail files? It’s possible he hacked your account and got it that way, isn’t it?

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 14th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Triple, you’re all underestiming just how smart he is. Someone doesn’t have to post like a rhodes scholar to be highly intelligent.

  28. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 14th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Bojo, I didn’t have any information on a number of the posters on whom he got information. Neither did anyone in the lohud fantasy league. That’s what I’m trying to tell you all. GB never put out information on this forum.

  29. Triple Short of a Cycle April 14th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    trisha,

    Well he either hacked someone’s email to get their contacts or he hacked into the LoHud database. Those are really the 2 options

  30. GreenBeret7 April 14th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    For those interested, the 4 Yankee minor league teams have free radio feeds available, including the rare FSL with a Duniden Blue Jays feed of the TY team.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....p?sid=t587

  31. BJK April 14th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Fun fact: Brian Cashman is paying more left-handed pitchers that won’t throw a pitch on the major league team this year $4 million than the Red Sox have wins.

  32. Salliedogs7 April 14th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Let’s go Hughes and let’s go yanks. Looks like a great night for baseball.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 14th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Triple, maybe the lohud database. Again, he could have hacked into every single one of the email accounts of people who were in the lohud fantasy league, but not one of those people had an email address for GB or SJ, amongst others! That’s what I’m trying to tell you. And GB7 has give up no information about himself on the forum, especially an email address!

    I don’t know how he did it, just that he did it.

  34. pat April 14th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    StoneLarry Boof Bonser needs Tommy John surgery. Imagine if he had been Dr. Jobe’s first patient, and all future pitchers got Boof Bonser surgery.

  35. blake April 14th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Lets go Phil!

  36. 4 NYY April 14th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Sad prediction : If Hughes doesn’t pick up 2-4 mph tonight, he’s toast in this game.

    Plus be able to hit his spots.

  37. 4 NYY April 14th, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    # GreenBeret7 April 14th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    For those interested, the 4 Yankee minor league teams have free radio feeds available, including the rare FSL with a Duniden Blue Jays feed of the TY team.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball…..p?sid=t587

    ========================

    Thanks, but half the guys I wanna know about are DL’d. Seriously, thanks.

  38. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    It’s nice to know Colon can be called in if Phil struggles.

    I hope they don’t need him, but not many teams have a long man who can throw even close to as well as Bartolo did in Boston.

  39. Tom in N.J. April 14th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    “Reinier Casanova signs with us.”

    At first I thought it said Reinier Wolfcastle signs with us.

  40. BoJo April 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    pat April 14th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
    StoneLarry Boof Bonser needs Tommy John surgery. Imagine if he had been Dr. Jobe’s first patient, and all future pitchers got Boof Bonser surgery.
    ______________
    How many pitchers would have said “thanks, but no thanks?”

  41. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    If Phil does struggle, they should know quickly…

    can’t hang with Phil if he’s still “off”

  42. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Nice start!

  43. BoJo April 14th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    So Trisha–You actually know who this guy is…because we’ll just have him killed. Okay?

  44. West Coast Yankee Fan April 14th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Unreal all this Hughes angst after two poor starts.

  45. 4 NYY April 14th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    t April 14th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    StoneLarry Boof Bonser needs Tommy John surgery. Imagine if he had been Dr. Jobe’s first patient, and all future pitchers got Boof Bonser surgery.

    ——————————————————-

    Or Mark Rzepczynski !

  46. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    WCYF,

    The angst was warranted for those who watched the games… including Yankees management.

  47. West Coast Yankee Fan April 14th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    After two games? Why.

  48. 4 NYY April 14th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan April 14th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Unreal all this Hughes angst after two poor starts.

    ===============================

    I’m pullin’ hard for the guy !!! Just an opinion.

  49. West Coast Yankee Fan April 14th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    So am I 4 NYY. I just don’t feel there is anything to worry about.

  50. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    WCYF,

    I dunno, ask Phil. Ask the Yankees.

    If you had no concerns, you might be the only one.

  51. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 14th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    bojy – don’t know who he is. never got any personal information. Always called him C*9

  52. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    I’d like to see a Gardner bunt tonight.

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan April 14th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Maybe I am BD. I just think a 24 year old who is not injured, at the start of a season, in cold weather, whi has the talent — doesn’t make me think it’s that much of a concern. Maybe I’m wrong.

  54. P April 14th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    lol@jeter .. how the mighty have fallen so far.. I can’t express how frustrated I am seeing this guy barely able to hit a ball past the pitchers mound!

  55. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Very nice change up from Arrieta.

    It’s early but it might be a night to take a few aggressive swings on the first pitch to make Arrieta think twice about grooving fastballs over for an easy strike one.

  56. P April 14th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    I mean if he was hitting the ball hard, or having good at bats I wouldn’t be so frustrated.. but he’s been behind in 95% of his at bats this season.

    it just doesn’t seem possible that he can fall so far so fast.. and all last year I stuck up for him and gave him a pass. Dunno if I can this year as well.

  57. West Coast Yankee Fan April 14th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Good cutter to Vlade

  58. BD (Boston Dave) April 14th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Wow – poor pitch selection to Vlady… unless Phil can’t throw the curveball.

  59. P April 14th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Phil needs to slow down a bit.. he’s pitching fast!

  60. P April 14th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    whoops wrong thread ->

  61. CompassRosy April 16th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    this is a test

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