Game 12: Yankees vs. Rangers
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Apr 15, 2011 
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YANKEES (7-4)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Andruw Jones LF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Curtis Granderson CF
RHP Ivan Nova (1-0, 6.10)
Nova vs. Rangers
RANGERS (9-3)
Ian Kinsler 2B
Elvis Andrus SS
Michael Young DH
Adrian Beltre 3B
Nelson Cruz RF
David Murphy LF
Yorvit Torrealba C
Mitch Moreland 1B
Julio Borbon CF
LHP Matt Harrison (2-0, 1.29)
Harrison vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES Network
WEATHER: Colder than last night, but not quite as bad as Wednesday night. Wind is blowing in a little bit, but mostly just blowing from right to left.
UMPIRES: HP Gary Cederstrom, 1B Lance Barksdale, 2B Fieldin Culbreth, 3B Adrian Johnson
CELEBRATING JACKIE: Today is Jackie Robinson Day. All MLB players, coaches and umpires will wear No. 42. The Yankees are celebrating with an on-field ceremony including Rachel Robinson — Jackie’s wife — along with their daughter Sharon, two scholars from the Jackson Robinson Foundation and members of the Tuskegee Airmen.
ONE AND DONE: Ivan Nova has faced only one current member of the Rangers. He faced Adrian Beltre twice last season and held him hitless.
MORE THAN ONE: Eight of Alex Rodriguez’s 14 hits this season have been extra-base hits, four doubles and four home runs. Five of Jorge Posada’s seven hits have been extra-base hits, all five homers.
ONE WITHOUT FOUR: The yankees have scored at least four runs in 10 of their 11 games this season. The White Sox are the only other team with so many four-run games this year. The Yankees also lead the majors with 21 home runs. According to Elias, the total is tied for the most home runs through 11 games in franchise history. The Yankees also had 21 homers through 11 games in 1932.
UPDATE, 7:38 p.m.: The Rangers take a 1-0 lead in the second inning, but Nova has done a nice job of getting ground balls when he’s needed them. When Nova’s getting the ball on the ground, that’s usually a good sign that his fastball is going where he wants it.
UPDATE, 8:00 p.m.: Nova is still throwing some fine pitches, but the Rangers came away with another run in the third inning an it’s now 2-0. Meanwhile, the Yankees caught a break with the leadoff error in the bottom of the third. Granderson is at second with no outs.
UPDATE, 8:04 p.m.: The Yankees turned the error into a run on Nick Swisher’s RBI single. It’s now 2-1 heading into the fourth.
UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: So far the Yankees really haven’t done much against Matt Harrison. They have three hits and scored their only run thanks to an error. It’s still 2-1 Rangers after four.
UPDATE, 8:28 p.m.: Wonder if the cold is affecting Nova. He’s walked a batter, hit a batter and thrown a wild pitch this inning. The Rangers have taken advantage with a run for a 3-1 lead. It’s gotten really cold and I can’t help wondering if Nova’s having a hard time gripping the ball.
UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: Here’s Robertson to relieve Nova with one out in the fifth. Either the cold got to him, or this was just one of those Nova starts where the wheels came off after four innings.
UPDATE, 8:44 p.m.: Robertson is having control problems of his own. He just allowed a run on a wild pitch before finally getting out of the inning with the Rangers up 5-1. Hector Noesi is getting loose. Not a great night for a big league debut, but this might be the time to use a long man to eat some innings.
UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: The Noesi experience will have to wait. Here’s Boone Logan in the sixth.
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: Here’s Lance Pendleton. Kind of amazing that he went from pretty much a non-prospect to pitching at Yankee Stadium. Not that he was ever a bad pitcher, but he was completely buried in the Yankees organization, then he had a nice year last year and got himself on the radar. Good for him.
UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: Another Granderson home run against a lefty and it’s now 5-2 Rangers. Pendleton, meanwhile, has been outstanding through his first two major league innings.
UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: The Yankees have tied an American League record by grounding into six double plays tonight.
Let’s do what the Sawx couldn’t.
Beat Texas!
Verlander averaged 94.1 on his FB during 2007
He averaged 93.7 in 2008, and got it up to as highly as 99 in the summer. His velocity seemed to fluctuate a lot according to his velo. chart. It’s not like the guy was throwing 88 all year.
And the last 2 years, Verlander has averaged 95.5 on his FB.
Hoping for 6 strong innings from Nova and at least a split of the first 2 games before CC’s first win Sun night. Tomorrow will be tougher so might as well win the first one
those power #s are pretty impressive considering how many guys seem to be stumbling out of the gate.
Texas has a tough lineup even without Hamilton.
In addition to Alex and Jorge’s XBH numbers, Granderson also has 5 XBH out of 7 total and Cano 8 XBH of his 15 hits.
CB ? I have to disagree with your take on the Yankees? decision making about Hughes.
All we know is what has been reported in the media. What we don?t know is how accurately that reflects the internal discussions. Did they actually seriously consider sending to AAA, or was that the organizational equivalent of thinking out loud. Or was it taken from someone who was out of the loop?
All we truly know for sure is the end result, ie, the DL. And, at least to me, that end result makes sense.
Out by a mile.
This game is on MLB if anyone is interested.
Also, I think Jackie Robinson could be remembered if every ball player wore a 42 patch on their sleeve instead of guessing who is playing.
What a throw by Martin.
I am a big fan of the rangers throwing away outs
“All we know is what has been reported in the media. What we don?t know is how accurately that reflects the internal discussions. ”
Joe,
Your right of course and what you’ve said is accurate. We don’t know. We never really know.
Usually I don’t like to speculate but it was what Hughes said that concerned me.
But it absolutely could have been brought up as a systematic way to go through different options in the process of deciding what was best.
The whole thing has struck me as odd though so it just concerned me.
Nice movement on Nova’s FB.
JF,
Me too….
Nova looks good after he found the zone. He has really good stuff.
The more I watch, I am convinced that Martin will be Yankees catcher for years to come if he keeps his health.
Great signing by Cash.
Nova working the bottom of the zone.
Great feet by martin on that throw. Really transitioned from the squat to throwing position seamlessly and very fast.
I wonder what his pop time on that throw was.
Anyone has a link where I can watch the game?
Don’t know if it can be posted here, but if allowed, I’d appreciate it.
Nice to not have to see Hamilton in the first inning.
CB,
I don’t know but it was quick
Another one of those infield his for Jeter.
blake,
how painful is it for you watching harrision throw? he’s been great to start the season.
Feliz, andrus and harrison in one deal. Schurholz was usually on the money but man hard to believe that deal.
wow, thought Jeter would be on 3rd
Jeter – Swish. That’s always been my lineup. Left or right. (cue the stat police)
CB,
but it was for the great Mark Teixeria
but yes – that trade is one for the ages
Another one of those infield his for Jeter.
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At the end of the day he can get on anyway he wants as long as he gets on
Jeters been more patient this year compared to last, at least just eye balling it.
If I am not mistaken, Hughes going to AAA was first reported by NY Post and evey outlet hopped on that story.
It is possible Post’s original story was not realiable.
Laptops down 3-0. Yet another home run
CB,
painful…..I still can’t believe it. What stinks is that they decided to go for it in a year that they weren’t good enough to win it all anyway most likely…..and then traded Teixera for nothing.
the blue Jays are a dangerous club.
Lol Buttholz.
Another HR given up.
3-0 Jays
Left handed pitchers as a whole throw the ball really badly.
Harrison throws the ball very well. His balance could be better but he I like the way he throws.
Blake, very dangerous…….and they will continue to be as they are run very well and they have $$$.
They might call that HR back but I think it went over that yellow line
Wow….he is human
stupid instant replay
instant replay on the Jays HR?
I always feel weird watching a lefty pitch – it just doesn’t look natural, lol, but of course I’m a righty, so naturally I’d feel that way
wow, i didnt get to see the replay
was it the right call?
how about those ridiculous yellow lines that are 6 inches away from the foul pole?
Rob Lyerly has a solo homer in Tampa and Jose Ramirez is pitching with 1-0 lead after 1 inning
Montero is 1-2 with an RBI giving scranton a 1-0 lead, Warren has allowed 1 hit, pitching in 4th inning
blake & CB-
Did you mention that Saltalamachia was the key one acquired in that deal.
I hate Beltre
“What stinks is that they decided to go for it in a year that they weren’t good enough to win it all anyway most likely…..”
That’s what I didnt’ like about that deal. Not just the whole giving up kids for a veteran.
That braves team just wasn’t good enough.
And I really couldn’t get over the braves giving up Feliz. He was the guy I just couldn’t believe they would include on a rental.
What weird twist of fate for feliz. He goes from an organization that is great with kids that makes an unusual short term move to an organization which never gave him a shot to start.
That trade may have cost him 100M+.
Interesting comment by Singleton on Nolan Ryan developing the Rangers pitching staff; opting for pitchers in great shape, going deeper into games and not relying so much on the bullpen. The opposite of Cashman.
Trader,
no and he was a good prospect at the time.
Nova has to get the ball down
Has Nova gotten the first batter of the inning out in any game this year?
CB,
I have no doubt that Feliz would be in the Braves rotation right now if he were still with them.
“Did you mention that Saltalamachia was the key one acquired in that deal.”
YT,
Salty was a huge part of that trade. But Feliz was the really the most special piece. He just had top of the rotation potential.
There were some questions about Salty’s swing. He was a blue chipper for a catcher but didn’t have the kind of outrageous talent that Feliz has.
The Rangers seem to be sitting fastball. Nova has to keep his ball down and mix up his pitches or he will get hammered tonight.
to be fair, Feliz was coming out of rookie ball. Its like Vizcaino for Vazquez. Though obviously Feliz had more upside than Vazquez
West Coast Yankee Fan,
let me know when their pitches start throwing 120 + pitches a game and when they adopt a 4 man rotation. Things Ryan has planned to do. Another relic from the past yearning for the good ole days
Nova is opening up and yanking the ball.
Lind homerun overturned. 0-0.
# West Coast Yankee Fan April 15th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Interesting comment by Singleton on Nolan Ryan developing the Rangers pitching staff; opting for pitchers in great shape, going deeper into games and not relying so much on the bullpen. The opposite of Cashman.
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Ryan knows how it used to be. Might be right too. But with the fragility of today’s guys, will it work again ? Too much babying because of $$$
Triple I didn’t endorse it. I said it was interesting how different the approaches are.
That sucks.
Huge break for Buttholz.
I think it can safely be said that #42 is going to make the difference in this game.
hmm, glad that worked out – looked like Tex misplayed it
The Rangers should practice what they preach , their starters all getting pulled in the 6th and 7th with 100+ pitches. No 120-130 pitch counts to be found
Triple I didn’t endorse it. I said it was interesting how different the approaches are.
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What pitchers has he implementated this approach with?
LGY – simply makes it more demoralizing when it happens again shortly.
He may be wrong, time will tell, but I like that Ryan has a specific philosophy on pitching.
I don’t know, Singleton made the comment on the air last inning.
Fenway is such a dump that the lines around pesky pole arent even close to lining up. the ball hit to the fair side of the line and the foul side of the pole. how does that work?
Just caught up on the game. Can’t believe that Alex actually hit into a DP and didn’t get a hit.
4 NYY,
Today’s pitchers are bigger,stronger and better then the majority of pitchers back in the day. But hey Koufax always has those 5 years to look back on
Jerk,
That’s true as well. He was a long way out. But man he was just so ridiculously talented. His arm was just so good.
It was just the perfectly balanced trade by Daniels. He almost got it all. Short term value with high floors, up the middle talent, and front end pitching.
Ryan has no business talking about putting emphasis on the rotation as long as Feliz is in the BP.
Ryan just likes to hear himself talk.
Buchholz still threw close to 25 pitches in the 1st.
Meanwhile, Cecil is off to a good start for Toronto. 1-2-3 first and 13 pitches.
Crawford down to .149
I think the Lind ball should have been a ground rule double.
LGY –simply makes it more demoralizing when it happens again shortly.
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Good thinking.
It was just the perfectly balanced trade by Daniels. He almost got it all. Short term value with high floors, up the middle talent, and front end pitching.
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Its a credit to the Rangers scouting and a real wtf re: Braves scouting. As far as I see it the Braves have to have some of the best scouts in the game given the talent they bring up and trade for. How did they miss those guys? Or was it simply a calculated loss because of Cox?
Come on #42! You’re blowin’ it for us!
/#42 jokes.
blake,
i didnt get to see it. what happened?
Hitting this guy hard.
thought that was going to be a hit
Yankee BABIP
BD – I only worry about starters early inning pitch counts when the goal is to get the starter out of the game because said starter is good. Does not apply in this case.
An aside. I happened to be a huge Ryan fan as a baseball fan, he’s the greatest pitcher I ever saw in person. Circumstances dictated I always seemed to be where he was pitching, New York, Anaheim and Houston. Was lucky enough to sit behind the plate for more than a few games and saw him no-hit Baltimore and Los Angeles.
BD,
It rattled around Pesky’s pole….they called it foul after initially calling if fair.
“Nova is opening up and yanking the ball.”
I like Nova. I like his arm. I like his stuff and his frame.
But he doesn’t repeat his mechanics that well and that concerns me.
His arm action in particular really isn’t great and that’s why he isn’t more consistent.
His release point varies across games. It’s not great and I don’t know how much he can do to fix it.
watching the replay of the Lind play…the ball looks like it landed on top of the wall fair and then bounced into the crowd foul to me…..which means it landed on the line and should have either been a homer or ground rule double.
“The Rangers should practice what they preach , their starters all getting pulled in the 6th and 7th with 100+ pitches. No 120-130 pitch counts to be found”
Oh, I know. For all that talk they are handling their staff in a very conventional fashion.
Hard to believe that Nolan Ryan is putting Feliz in the bull pen. The lack of irony is hard to get over.
By that logic Ryan would never have given a young nolan ryan a chance to start.
Feliz is a much more polished pitcher than ryan was at the same age and it’s not even close.
blake,
wow – sounds like the Sox caught a break.
CB,
that is the biggest thing with him…he loses it for periods of time within games and that’s usually when he gets in trouble. He has to learn to repeat better to avoid those lapses.
Nova is about to walk himself into trouble.
“that is the biggest thing with him…he loses it for periods of time within games and that’s usually when he gets in trouble. He has to learn to repeat better to avoid those lapses.”
Agree. That’s why the whole issue of him not getting through the line up twice seems to me something of a red herring.
It’s not getting through the line up twice. It’s keeping his mechanics consistent for more than 5 innings or so.
And probably more important, being able to correct his mechanics once trouble starts.
Kinsler spiked cano
he was out
Bad call we got a break.
Come on you know Cano has quick hands.
“It’s not getting through the line up twice. It’s keeping his mechanics consistent for more than 5 innings or so.”
yes. He has really good stuff and really good movement….he’s a young guy hopefully he can refine that delivery and get more consistent at making quality pitches.
Leave it to a silly little ballpark like in Boston to have inexact foul lines. One in a line of many jokes of what goes on in Jurrasic Park.
close call, cant blame the ump either way.
I really hate this Texas team
wow why was granderson playing so far in
that ball is right down the middle to Young
yankee pitchers need to get out of the middle of the plate
He’s just not repeating his arm action well tonight. That loop in his arm action just isn’t great.
It makes him inconsistent with his command.
Nova is not gonna last long throwing fastball after fastball.
Will we be seeing Nova “twin” Noesi in this game?
Young pitcher’s mistake. You can’t throw a fastball dead center of the plate to a hitter like Young.
Of course a walk turns into a run. I doubt Nova will last that long in this game. He isn’t consistent enough with his mechanics and location.
nice K
Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
4 NYY,
Today’s pitchers are bigger,stronger and better then the majority of pitchers back in the day. But hey Koufax always has those 5 years to look back on.
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I believe he had 6 great seasons. Lived in L.A. then. I’ve always liked something Don Drysdale said as an announcer with the Angels. That being that today’s players have little fat on their bodies to protect muscle. Then of course they went crazy with PEDS.
Nova’s stuff is saving his behind thus far….he’s going to have to make better pitches and throw more strikes.
Nova’s main issue isn’t throwing too many fastball’s etc.
It’s his arm action and the impact that has on his command.
It’s an issue for his fastball and it’s why his curve ball isn’t a better pitch.
Nova has thrown a lot of pitches through 3 innings
If you could fuse Nova and Noesi you’d have a great young pitcher.
They each are good at what the other isn’t as strong at.
One day Grandy will crush that get me over curve
How did Cruz get that
Clang….I thought that was in the gap.
That ball was smoked.
Thanks Cruz we will take it
ouch
gotta catch that. no way it’s a hit.
Let’s capitalize on the error! Let’s go Jeter!!
That should be an error. It was off Cruz’s glove
Please don’t bunt
Granderson has such a good stroke and such great hand speed.
He is really starting to drive the ball with authority.
Regardless of the scoring of the play he really drove that ball with authority into the gap and did so against a very tough lefty who has been giving the line up trouble until now.
CB,
yea if you could give Nova Noesi’s command then we’d be in business.
Let’s go jetes.
So much for Granderson not being able to hit lefties.
Why is Jeter swinging like that at a 1-0 pitch….that was a 2 strike swing.
# CB April 15th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
If you could fuse Nova and Noesi you’d have a great young pitcher.
They each are good at what the other isn’t as strong at.
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Exactly 3 walks have hurt him.,
Ellsbury K’s with the bases loaded to end the 2nd.
He’s at .184 – should we reopen the Ellsbury vs Gardner debate
j/k
blake April 15th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Why is Jeter swinging like that at a 1-0 pitch….that was a 2 strike swing.
Chopping at the ball.
He’s been doing it all year.
“yea if you could give Nova Noesi’s command then we’d be in business.”
Or give Noesi Nova’s life and movement.
Jeter did the job.
Are the rangers playing with 4 outfielders?
The ball either isn’t carrying tonight to right center or Martin, Granderson, and Jeter all 3 didn’t catch all of it.
Need to get this run in.
The Swisheroo !
Sac fly again?
go Swish (him and Granderson have been doing well lately)
Way to go swish.
Being aggressive early in the count..nice
Please keep Swish in the 2 spot.
Nice job by Swisher.
CB
You don’t think there is much Rothschild can do to help Nova become more consistent with his mechanics?
Nope… single up the middle. That’s what I get for predicting plays.
Jeter put a better swing on that one but he still doesn’t look comfortable yet….atta boy Swisher.
wtf Texeria….this DP ball is killing our rallies. We should have more than one run
“Why is Jeter swinging like that at a 1-0 pitch….that was a 2 strike swing.”
Honest answer – his bat speed just isn’t there and he’s not able to let the ball travel as deeply as he used to.
I hope it’s just temporary as he irons out his swing.
But he swinging at those pitches because he doesn’t have as much time to recognize the pitch and make decisions.
If he waits the bat head isn’t going to get to the ball.
It’s also why he’s hitting so many ground balls.
CB and blake-
I couldn’t find the original Atlanta Journal article about the trade obtaining Teixiera but as I recall the braves reports were were that Salty and Andrus were the key players in that deal and as the attached USA Today article
http://www.usatoday.com/sports.....gers_N.htm:
Swisher is back at doing what he was so good at last year.
Last night he gets the run home by taking the ball the opposite way.
Tonight he takes the ball up the middle twice to get hits.
He is so much better when he’s trying to take that ball back through the box and keeping it simple.
Carl April 15th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Please keep Swish in the 2 spot.
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Yes – yes and yes.
syd_cash April 15th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
wtf Texeria….this DP ball is killing our rallies. We should have more than one run
He did it on purpose.
Trust me.
CB,
I agree that’s what it is….he’s still trying to figure out when to swing with his current bat speed. It’s an adjustment. Still looks like he doesn’t know quite what to do with his left foot either and I think that’s messing his timing and trigger up.
Over aggressive Jays give Buchholz a very easy 1-2-3, 6 pitch inning
I know 3 of the Robinsons in the HOF-Jackie, Brooks and Frank.
Who is the 4th?
Jeter should do what Chipper Jones did.
Get a lighter bat.
Trader,
I remember the deal being sold as Salty, Andrus, and Feliz….
Pitching is a lot easier when you’re ahead in the count.
And Jeter, IMO needs to drop the head of the bat on inside corner pitches, and would be hitting the ball in the air more. Has little trouble from center to right. May be rolling over.
Why is Mo in the game so early? And why is he playing every position? Yes, I realize he of all people could do it but I just don’t want him tired out!
Carl – interesting thought.
Fran,
Wilbert Robinson….And no, I didn’t know that one, either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbert_Robinson
As Singleton mentioned, Swisher has been fine batting right handed. But he has been dreadful from the left side, not just results but how his swing has looked. So that remains a problem for revising the lineup against righties.
Zeppo Robinson does not belong.
Nice inning by Nova
he needed that quick one…..
“You don’t think there is much Rothschild can do to help Nova become more consistent with his mechanics?”
LGY,
I hope so and I want to be optimistic. But objectively, I’m afraid it will be very difficult.
The problem is his arm action. He’s athletic enough where you would expect him to repeat well.
But his arm action is the problem and that’s extremely difficult to fix because it would require him to fundamentally change how he throws. That in turn could ruin him if it was even attempted.
It’s a major debate about what to do with arm action. Much of it is just natural so it’s just very hard to change.
It’s not something like tempo or leg lift, etc. It’s just not easy to change.
You just hope that it’s something he can learn how to manage.
I’ve posted quite a bit here about hughes and the difference between throwing and pitching.
Nova is a case where you hope his pitching can make up for a deficit in his throwing, a deficit which is not easy to fix.
But that takes a lot of pitching skill to compensate for.
Pedroia continuing to carry the Sox on his back (to the tune of 2-9)
solo HR following a good defensive play the previous half inning
1-0 Sawx over Jays
Pedroia continuing to carry the Sox on his back (to the tune of 2-9)
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In fairness to Pedroia its not like he has a big back.
i know Jackie Robinson, Brooks Robinson and Frank don;t know the forth
Some of Nova’s movement and sink comes from his arm action as well…..
JM,
Good job. Thanks for the info.
CB, so if you throw well – free and easy – the pitching will follow?
Good for the elfkin. Let him carry the team on his back and tire himself out early in the season. I’m all for it.
GO BRETT CECIL!!!!
The Chucky Doll (that would be Bucholz for the forces) is pitching a no hitter. But not for long now that the universal jinx is put out there.
CB – with respect to your comments about jeters ability to recognize pitches and react, why would u think it may be temporary? We’ve been seeing it for some time now, what makes you optimistic it can change?
I’m not saying it won’t, merely asking what your thought process is that it may.
Wilbert Robertson: former Highlander (Yankee)
Youk HR
3-0 Sox
(following a walk to Adrian despite 2 of the 4 balls being strikes that the ump called balls)
Fran,
Gotta love Google. LOL. It was driving me crazy that I didn’t know the fourth one.
“but as I recall the braves reports were were that Salty and Andrus were the key players in that deal and as the attached USA Today article”
YT,
They were the key in that they were the guys who were closest to the major leagues and played premium positions.
Feliz was a big part of it though in the sense that he was the most talented player in the deal. Farthest away but with the highest ceiling.
He was throwing like 97-100 as a kid and doing so with easy heat. Same thing you see now.
He has one of those arms that you don’t forget and don’t fine very often at all.
Ugh. The uglies are now 3-0.
ump in the Sox Jays game is abysmal. pitches right down the middle are balls – in fairness he was squeezing Buchholz too.
Alex walked, but took a very good FB at 1-1. Keep swingin’ slugger.
Dp is killing us tonight.
Perhaps Cano could take a pitch
Where’s Vernon Wells when you need him.
uncle robbie, the manager of the Brooklyn Dodgers, back in the day.
one of the pioneers of baseball.
harrison throwing a lot of dp balls.
Not a good at bat for Cano there.
Yanks going for the DP record
isn’t that the 3rd DP in the last 3 innings. Ridiculous
Why are we having so much trouble with this pitcher? I really don’t know hoe their staff is putting up such good numbers. seems like it is mostly smoke and mirrors
That was a lazy at bat by Cano
“Some of Nova’s movement and sink comes from his arm action as well…..”
Absolutely true as well. No question about it.
Nova is a bit like the guy who throws across his body.
The problem is also his greatest strength.
That’s why you just leave well enough alone and hope you’ve got a nice middle of the rotation starter who will be a valuable asset for a long time.
DPs bailing out this guy
JM,
Yeah, Google can sure make us look smart
This inning and the next will be a big test for Nova
I feel like the Yanks are going to break through with the bats at some point here….just have to keep Texas off the board.
luck’s gotta change soon. timely hits will come.
honestly, nova looks better than he did last start. his control is a bit better. no reason he can’t be a 4 or 5 starter for years
Anyone notice that Cano poses just a second before he takes off when he knows he has a hit to the outfield ? Not sure if he does it on grounders. Will watch closely.
It’s not like Buccholz was going to be bad forever………and if I recall, he owns the Jays.
4th walk, not good.
“with respect to your comments about jeters ability to recognize pitches and react, why would u think it may be temporary? We’ve been seeing it for some time now, what makes you optimistic it can change?”
A couple of things.
The first is his feet. They really are all messed up right now. His base is all screwy because he tried to make those adjustments.
Now those adjustments were a very good idea in theory – but they are not easy to put into place in practice.
I also get the sense that he’s thinking too much up at the plate and it’s slowing him down some.
Those are the main reasons why. He looks far worse now than he did even at the end of last season.
On the whole he’s going through a process of adjustment to diminished bat speed. Hopefully he has the bat skills to manage that transition.
That’s why I think it could be temporary or at least part of it could be temporary.
His base really is messed up right now. And that makes it much more difficult to pull the trigger at the right time.
CB,
Yea I think changing the way Nova throws might take away what makes him effective and thats that sinking fastball…..it is a tough motion to repeat though so as you say we can just hope that he gets better at repeating it and therefore allows his movement to get hitters out.
there he just walks another guy to start the inning….didn’t even get close to the plate.
a leadoff walk
shocker
Great, another walk that will come around to score. Does Nova have to concentrate more or is it all mechanics??
Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Why are we having so much trouble with this pitcher? I really don’t know hoe their staff is putting up such good numbers. seems like it is mostly smoke and mirrors
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They’re good.
Just let him bunt Jesus Christ.
they are going to give away an out….let them, don’t walk him.
Throw strikes!!!
Seems like he loses concentration.
35 BB, 35 K…. over 70 pitches
50-50 balls and strikes, that could def be better for Nova
His release point is different on a pitch to pitch basis this inning.
It’s that loop his arm travels through. Just too much distance in the pathway to throwing the ball.
“It’s not like Buccholz was going to be bad forever………and if I recall, he owns the Jays.”
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umps looked like they blew a call in the 1st that would have likely given the Jays 2 runs.
Jays have not looked good at the plate since then.
I can’t imagine it has anything to do with concentration – if it did, wouldn’t everyone have perfect control?
Too many leadoff guys reaching base and too many walks.
At this point, that’s more lack of focus instead of lack of mechanics.
Can’t keep the guy in the game who is fearful of the strike zone.
He’s got to pick it up. Too good an arm to throw this poorly.
Too many young guys feel they have to pitch too precise at the major league level.
That’s what gets them in trouble.
Too many balls for Nova ! Oops, sorry ladies, I mean pitched balls.
Nova!!
It’s early. Sux game just started…
BD, that stinks, but you give a good pitcher a 2nd chance and generally he takes advantage of it.
Another ball causes pain !
Nova is in trouble here.
Nova being Aj’ish from last season. This isn’t good. Garcia??
Watching Nova pitch is torture.
It’s amazing how once the 5th inning comes Nova turns into a pumpkin. It happens very single time.
CB – thanks for that color re Jeter. Very helpful for me. Appreciate it.
Nova’s got the stuff, but can’t survive with two runners on every inning.
you have got to be kidding, his self destruction is painful to watch
Get the bullpen up…
Wow is Nova wild tonight.
Just look at how awful his release point was on that pitch.
He yanked the ball so badly.
Amazing stop by Martin.
Incredible try by Martin..not much he could do there.
I’m thinking you might want to thank me for breaking up the Chucky Doll’s no hitter.
Or thank the forces that seem to follow that seemingly silly maxim!!!!!
Yikes
Man – throw the ball to his glove, not the grass. No reason for that throw to be lousy.
Captain Clutch April 15th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
It’s amazing how once the 5th inning comes Nova turns into a pumpkin. It happens very single time.
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Yup its ridiculous
wild pitch may have cost them a DP as well
Got to get him out of the game now.
Too many mental lapses tonight and he’s giving runs away at this point.
A step back for him this evening.
lead off walks….almost always score
Good thing the pen has a few long relievers, because the starters really dont go long (Nova/Hughes).
Start Noesi, bring Nova in for 4.
The rotation outside of CC, AJ isn’t pretty. Colon is a positive, but how many innings can he take?
It seems like Nova isn’t ready to pitch in the majors. Even when he starts off good after 3 innings it all unravels.
We all knew Nova would have his growing pains…..
It is expected yanks will give up 4-5 runs tonight, do the math for the offense requirement to win the game
Carlo,
No problem. I enjoy the times on the blog when we can discuss real baseball issues rather than the usual… well you know.
Don’t know if I’m right or not. Just what I observe. I do think there’s something there though.
This rotation really is so bad. Its CC and everyone else is a 5 inning starter at best. The pen won’t be a strength come august.
Warm up Noesi
This reminds me of last year, when Phil had to take on more responsibility because of Javy and AJ’s failures. Unfortunately, Nova has to be better than he should have to be because of rotation woes
5 walks in 4 1/3?
Get Robertson in there.
Done !
Another walk. Ugh
Wouldnt leave Nova to face Young.
If Nova can settle down,
6IP and 3ER against the Rangers is fine.
but that’s 5 outs to go… need to get out of this.
He just can’t keep the ERA under 6
that’s so bad
about to go one batter too long with the starter again…
ac1
Joe G would
Any other manager would pull Nova now but of course Girardi will let him put this game out fo reach. Why can’t he ever pull the starter before the damage is done.
yep…. one batter too long.
Uh? Girardi???????
Right now could decide this game….they are still in striking distance now. Make the move
down 3 in the 5th – time to come for Nova.
batter too long as usual.
Way to go Joe!!!
1 batter late again!
Needs a DP here in the worst way.
And he doesn’t get it.
Ground ball but scorched.
His command is awful tonight. He just can’t repeat.
Is it automatic that SP’s have to give up 4 or 5 runs before they replace them ?
Not a very good outing by Nova tonight.
Question. Are we going to pull a pitcher every time he struggles? It isn’t like Nova has had Phil-like outings. There are going to be nights where our guys struggle on the mound.
On the other hand, one thing I always said was that with our bullpen, we would be in good shape if we got short innings from our starters.
Hey, good on Joe. He’s going with a shorter leash these days. Not a bad thing.
only joe would leave nova in there to face one of baseballs best hitters in this situation.
well, can Bartolo pitch tonight?
It’s the ups and downs of breaking in young pitchers.
For those of you who crave for Betances and Banuelos to be year, expect the same learning curve.
It’s why breaking in young pitchers is so challenging.
It’s never easy.
Stayed 3 hitters too late with him and it cost them 2 runs and counting.
Another poor job of handling the situation by Girardi.
Girardi is always one batter too late…he never learns. I really don’t understand what the point was of letting Nova face Young. Nova really should be in the minors. He isn’t ready to pitch in the minors.
I really don’t know what Girardi is doing early this season….the kid lost the strike zone
They should throw Noesi tonight. If he’s on the team he should be utilized.
The Cliff Lee deal-breaker, Ladies and Gentlemen!
BD, I’m available!
It’s unfair to say that Nova isn’t ready for the big leagues – he’s just a kid and will have growing pains. Maybe fans’ expectations for him should be tempered………. It’s not his fault the rest of the rotation is lousy
Hey, good on Joe. He’s going with a shorter leash these days. Not a bad thing.
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trish, it is always one batter too long though.
“Is it automatic that SP’s have to give up 4 or 5 runs before they replace them ?”
Tell you what. You don’t instill a ton of confidence in your pitcher if every time he gives up 4 or 5 runs you come and pull him.
Does that sound strange?
I just don’t want there to be an expectation by the eagerites here that whenever someone gets in trouble, Joe gets the hook.
It’s pretty ridiculous to whine about this batter too long crap at the beginning of the season.
Girardi wants a little length about of his rotation so he doesn’t kill his bullpen, and he wants to see how a lot of his arms handle the pressure. A short leash at the beginning of the season isn’t helpful.
Nova is still just a 4-inning pitcher.
This rotation really is so bad. Its CC and everyone else is a 5 inning starter at best. The pen won’t be a strength come august.
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AJ?
Garcia hasn’t even pitched yet.
Hughes is not a 5 inning pitcher when at full strength.
minors=majors
Ladies and Gentlemen……….this game thread is about to go downhill
Guess they are saving a long man for tomorrow. Don’t know what you’ll get from Garcia.
“I really don’t know what Girardi is doing early this season….the kid lost the strike zone”
I don’t know. It’s really odd. It almost feels like he’s just hoping things will revert to some kind of mean expectation if you give it enough time.
That’s just hard to do when you watch at how badly he was physically throwing the ball tonight.
Would have liked to have seen Chavez in there tonight, lefty or not.
Should Girardi just bring his laptop into the dugout and let us tell him when to take pitchers out? its not that hard to see what’s going on. I understand wanting to save the bullpen but it doesn’t help anything if the guy on the mound isn’t going to get the next hitter out anyway….you still have to go to the bullpen but now further behind in the game.
ac1, in fairness I just joined up a little while ago so I haven’t seen what Nova did or didn’t do from the start.
I’m just worried that people are going to expect the starter to get yanked all the time if he’s struggling. Our pen will be dead by mid season if that happens. I think it also doesn’t send a very good message. Every once in a while a Yankee pitcher is going to throw a stinker. It happens.
I like Nova but I don’t get why people fawn over him than Hughes.
ohmygodareyouserious
Should Girardi just bring his laptop into the dugout and let us tell him when to take pitchers out? its not that hard to see what’s going on
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You could never manage a game or walk on a piece of wood. Or manage a piece of wood.
It’s likely to be this way all year. I don’t think anyone was under the illusion that we had a very good rotation this year.
Starting rotation is a huge mess
Mossi isn’t the answer either.
Trading young guy for young guy in the rotation solves nothing. He will have the same growing pains.
It’s painful but, you have to deal with the growing pains of young pitchers.
They ALL struggle.
The ones who learn from their mistakes, become good ML pitchers.
The ones who don’t never make it.
It’s why guys like Freddie Garcia and Bartolo Colon will always get chances until their arms fall off because they are veteran guys who know to navigate their way thru games.
Martin is going to need a day off after tonight.
I really struggle to find any silver lining whatsoever in the rotation. Coming in, everyone said Burnett is the key. Well, burnett is 3-0, we lost 2 of CC’s 3 starts, and the rest of the rotation happened to pitch on nights we scored in bunches.
I like Nova longer term, but he’s nothing more than a 5th starter on a good team in 2011. Hughes is a disaster and our 5th starter is deemed so unrelieable he’s worked 1 inning so far this year. I think its going to be very challenging to play at a high level for an extended period of time with this staff. Hot streaks become very hard to maintain with a staff like this. The trade deadline can’t come soon enough.
I didn’t realize this was the 7th game of a playoff series.
It’s amazing how the Rangers are able to advance on balls that don’t even get away from the catcher. They are sooo aggressive and that is why they deserve what they got with Hamilton getting hurt on such a stupid play.
I’m just worried that people are going to expect the starter to get yanked all the time if he’s struggling. Our pen will be dead by mid season if that happens. I think it also doesn’t send a very good message. Every once in a while a Yankee pitcher is going to throw a stinker. It happens.
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Agreed. But you still have to see when it is about to come apart, and in at least 3 games this year, it has been obvious its about to fall apart, then it does.
I didn’t think we’d have a very good rotation, but it is early…
“its not that hard to see what’s going on. I understand wanting to save the bullpen but it doesn’t help anything if the guy on the mound isn’t going to get the next hitter out anyway….you still have to go to the bullpen but now further behind in the game.”
That’ the thing. You can see it. It’s just so clear.
It’s not a matter of if the bull pen is going to be needed – just when. And giving a pitcher throwing that badly another batter on the marginal chance things will revert just isn’t a high probability gamble.
It’s really not saving the pen when a guy is throwing like that. It’s just a matter of time and how much damage you allow him to do to the team being able to win.
They should walk Cruz
Joe ,
I think I’m still bitter from the ALCS
need to keep the game within 3 here.
“It’s unfair to say that Nova isn’t ready for the big leagues – he’s just a kid and will have growing pains. Maybe fans’ expectations for him should be tempered………. It’s not his fault the rest of the rotation is lousy”
Besty, you had me right to the point about the rest of the rotation. Except for Phil I think the rest of the rotation is great!
All these wild pitches are getting ridiculous
They are making life very difficult for Martin tonight.
You have to be kidding me. Another WP!
Martin definitely needs the day off tomorrow, the way the pitchers are forcing him to bounce around…
this is a nightmare. Like an awful flash back of the ALCS
I’m turning this amateur show off.
Sorry, but Martin just reached for that, didn’t move his body.
Tex is a better team, nuff said
They really have to get Phil fixed….
I don’t understand why they pitched to Cruz anyway. Just an ugly, ugly game.
Well goddamnit
One of those games. Poor pitching, wild pitches, hitting into double plays, etc.
3 WPs, 3 DPs… has that feel.
this is a really tough game to watch
it’s one thing when the other team is outplaying you.
but walks, hit batters, wild pitches, sloppy… and just ugly.
“I didn’t realize this was the 7th game of a playoff series.”
Ditto.
“Maybe fans’ expectations for him should be tempered”
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He was a deal-breaker for Cliff Lee. So either he’s supposed to be REALLY good or our GM is a moron.
At least Robertson has his FB.
7 walks, 3 WP, and a HBP and it’s only the 5th inning.
Not good.
No sense burning Robertson in this one.
Use Noesi and Pendleton and save the core pen guys for the rest of the weekend.
undoubtedly the worst pitching to date in the season.
ac1 April 15th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
3 WPs, 3 DPs… has that feel.
6 or 7 walks.
The bullpen is going to get abused. Colon isn’t stretched out and probably has 60 good pitches in him, Nova is usually a 4 inning pitcher. They better have 2 long guys in the bullpen to cover them.
Going to get to see Noesi tonight at least.
Martin is all played out from playing goalie all night. Have to come back again tonight.
Trisha, the rest of the rotation is great? I’ve always liked AJ personally, but let’s wait a bit before we say he’s back. That said, I think he’ll be fine. I didn’t think Phil would have a great year (not like this though, lol) and Nova is a kid. He’ll be fine, but he’s our 4th starter- ideally, he should be the 5th starter. I’d like to see what Garcia has if they ever stop skipping him. It’s not that good of a rotation.
Joba did the same thing the other night; he threw a wild pitch with a runner on third. Martin didn’t get the lucky bounce of the wall this time.
Get the bats going and lets see what Noesi has next inning.
Texas is the better team based on half a game?
This might be the first legitimately poor all around played game by the yankees, somehow they will survive to make the playoffs.
The problem is, it’s hard to know what you’ll get from Garcia tomorrow…..Need to have a long man available to back him up, too.
He was NOT the deal breaker for Lee – but that’s over and done with and you wouldn’t listen anyway, so have a nice night.
Garcia starting scares me, for real. It will take a lot of at em’ balls for him to succeed.
I love watching Robertson all the more now that I know why his strikeout rate is so good!
Despite a wild pitch.
It does seem as if every year our pen gets burnt out – or has the potential too. The rotation always seems to have serious issues.
Question. Should Russell Martin been given a day off by now? Just curious. I think yes.
If you’re going to get hepped up because our rookie pitcher has some less-than-stellar games from time to time, maybe you need to get some good drugs to take before you watch the game.
Look I haven’t seen the beginning innings, but I heard that Texas had some pretty good hitting. Does that factor in at all?
All sincere questions. Now I have to go and pick up my dinner. Hopefully the score is the same (Texas-wise) when I get back in 10 minutes.
This is absurd.
3 runs on 1 hit!
That’s just unacceptable.
Happy Montero wasn’t catching this game as a 21 year old.
He would have been run out of town trying to handle these pitches.
The good thing Girardi does is keep two long men in the pen. Rarely in his tenure has the pen become completely worn down.
As for the starters, it is very likely that Cash makes a huge move in July this year, especially after losing Lee and Haren last July.
I still hope Florida falls out and makes JJ available, because i dont believe that even if Felix is available, that Jack Z would ever give him to us.
# Jerkface April 15th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
This might be the first legitimately poor all around played game by the yankees, somehow they will survive to make the playoffs.
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Agreed, they will do what’s necessary.
Well at least the other Rangers team is losing
Nova wasn’t the deal breaker for Lee.
But I guess if you keep saying it, you will believe it’s true.
I was talking to a couple of Yankee beat writers the other day you stalk on Twitter.
They agreed you are the dumbest Yankee fan they have ever dealt with.
Congratulations. You are now a complete laughingstock.
Question. Should Russell Martin been given a day off by now? Just curious. I think yes.
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he has had a ton of days off, due to rain outs.
Texas may not be the better team but they certainly have better SP which will go a long way
The bullpen is going to get abused. Colon isn’t stretched out and probably has 60 good pitches in him, Nova is usually a 4 inning pitcher. They better have 2 long guys in the bullpen to cover them
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Nova is not going to improve with more major league experience?
Hard to figure what Yankee fans expect from young pitchers.
5 innings to score 4
4 innings if you don’t count Feliz as an opportunity
“Garcia starting scares me, for real. It will take a lot of at em’ balls for him to succeed.”
I feel the opposite. I think he’s going to be great for the Yankees and will really help the rotation. I was psyched from the time is was mentioned that the Yanks were looking at him.
what the hell is wrong with Posada’s shoulder and neck?
“Except for phil, the rotation is great”……..may I edit that to read, “except for phil, nova, garcia, and likely aj many times, the rotation is great”
Yes they do have better SP. I’m not saying they aren’t a better team, just that you can’t say it based on 2 weeks into the season.
“Nova is not going to improve with more major league experience?
Hard to figure what Yankee fans expect from young pitchers”
Flippin’ bingo.
(In case you’re intersted LG, Chucky has two on with one out, 75 pitc hes at the top of the fifth)
The problem is, it’s hard to know what you’ll get from Garcia tomorrow…..Need to have a long man available to back him up, too.
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This is quite a team Brian Cashman put together…
We’re forced to count on Bartolo Colon AND Freddy Garcia, and we’re probably going to need Kevin Millwood at some point to.
But hey, it’s not like Cashman has a $200 million buget or anything.
Millwood will never see the Bronx.
Over 162 games, every team will play several poor games like tonight.
Drawing long term conclusions, in April no less, is dumb.
Some folks will do it.
Just means they are dumb.
But hey, it’s not like Cashman has a $200 million buget or anything.
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But hey, it’s not like they’re already paying just A-Rod $30m of that
“may I edit that to read, “except for phil, nova, garcia, and likely aj many times, the rotation is great””
No you may NOT. Betsy talked about the “rest of the rotation”, meaning the rotation absent Nova.
CC- great
AJ – great
I already said Phil was not great
Garcia – you have no idea.
So it appears that what I said was correct, as far as we’ve seen.
It does seem as if every year our pen gets burnt out –or has the potential too. The rotation always seems to have serious issues
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Yet, they somehow finish with the best or one of the best records in baseball almost every.single.year.
“Over 162 games, every team will play several poor games like tonight.
Drawing long term conclusions, in April no less, is dumb.
Some folks will do it.
Just means they are dumb”
Maybe all of this will expedite Banuelos to NY.
Why you swinging at that R-mart.
Betsy April 15th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
He was NOT the deal breaker for Lee – but that’s over and done with and you wouldn’t listen anyway, so have a nice night.
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Fact: After Adams medical records eliminated him, Seattle asked Cashman to replace him with ONE of Nova or Nunez and Cashman said no to BOTH.
That has been WIDELY reported in stories that include comments from Cashman himself. And that = deal-breaker.
LGY, and they often get knocked out of the playoffs early – is your point that SP is overrated?
Well… at least it wasn’t yet another double play in this game.
“Nova is not going to improve with more major league experience?”
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I never said that he isn’t going to improve. But I am just saying that right now he really has a problem pitching past the 4th inning and with Hughes out and not knowing how Garcia will pitch it could effect the bullpen.
Maybe all of this will expedite Banuelos to NY.
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And the same people that complain about Hughes and Nova will complain about Banuelos!!!
I have no interest in discussing this with you- it’s a lot more complicated than that. Us discussing this? Deal breaker
Logan warming up.
Ugh… don’t swing at that Grandy. It’s clearly high.
So we can have Banuelos try to save the staff? I hope not….
Jays cut it to 3-2
Grandy can.
sweetness
Ranger defense almost robbed another hit.
Whew…. that was close.
LGY, why is it that people who have concerns about some SP are labled complainers? Stating that Phil lacks good breaking pitches or that Nova doesn’t have great command at times is not complaining……..sometimes criticism is warranted
But hey, it’s not like they’re already paying just A-Rod $30m of that
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If the ARod contract were the worst, the Yankees would be in MUCH better shape right now.
great AB by Granderson
he’s been having some good AB’s lately – the Granderson hit parade will be coming soon
c;mon Jeter shut up all the haters
LGY, and they often get knocked out of the playoffs early – is your point that SP is overrated?
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If only they could be that team that wins all the world serie- oh wait
What if the conclusions have nothing to do with tonight? What if the rotation being a problem, one that has actually been a bigger problem than expected so far, was something that has been a conclusion since February?
Nobody is saying the rotation isn’t good because Nova wasn’t all that appealing tonight. Its more like having starters not last 5 innings way too many times, is a problem.
Trish, you sure are a super-optimist, lol – we disagree a lot, but so what, right?
SJ44 – don’t insult me like that. Don’t refer to certain people as Yankee fans…..
You have to be kidding me…..
sigh. what’s the record for double plays in a game??
Another DP hit into by the Yankees. Things are not going their way so far tonight.
All of the DP’s are killing them
6 in the AL, 7 in the NL
just one of those days…..
who didn’t see that coming?
its comical at this point
This appears to be just one of those games…..
Did it look like Jeter was hustling down the line? I didn’t really think so but am not 100% sure.
Captain Groundout
Hate to throw in the towel after last nights come back, but man are we not getting any breaks tonight. Their defense/scouting reports are flawless tonight. Playing us perfectly.
Whenever you feel the need to complain about ARod’s contract, just remember that Brian Cashman gave Kei Igawa $40 million and just handed Derek Jeter $56 million!
THAT’s FIFTY-SIX MILLION DOLLARS for a guy with NO range and hits the ball hard about once a month.
Yanks are on pace to shatter the DP record
CC – AJ and pray for rain. J/K
LGY April 15th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
You have to be kidding me…..
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About what???
Have you not seen Derek Jeter play in the last year?
FACT: you are wrong.
FACT: once Justin Smoak was added to the deal, it was OVER because the Rangers liked Smoak better than they liked Montero.
Secondary players did not turn the deal Texas’ way.
Those are the FACTS.
Since youmhave a difficult time functioning in reality, whatever WIDELY “facts” of yours are not remotely correct to the REALITY of what took place.
Please don’t be swept
SJ44,
you gotta start ignoring him.
as pathetic as he is, I can just picture that fool giggling in his parent’s basement when he riles you up like this.
stick with the fastball Boone…
Rangers announcers are currently laughing at the Yankees over their crying about Feliciano being damaged goods.
“Then why did you sign him?,” asks Tom Grieve.
Seems like a fair question.
just put Noesi in.
Gee, I just love walks.
BD, I think SJ kind of likes playing cat and mouse with this guy
“Trish, you sure are a super-optimist, lol – we disagree a lot, but so what, right?”
Absolutely Bets, because we know that we both love our team!
Logan has turned back into the real Logan
$200M payroll and the Yankees run out the like of:
Hughes / Colon
Nova
Garcia
Mr. Inconsistent AJ Burnett
As their starters
Now that is a complete freaking JOKE
Cash doesnt need to go get a lefty, just bring up Sisco.
Martin will sleep good tonight after this workout
can you people get over the $200 payroll argument.
It is irrelevant when the bulk is in the pockets of ARod, Tex, CC.
It’s not like it is $200 spread over.
Trish, right!
Sisco is not coming up and Cashman already explained why; the guy is not pitching that well despite his #s…….his FB hasn’t been that good also.
Logan is going to be a real problem, no doubt
Oswalt might be hurt. Thats one down for the Phillies. Injuries are the ultimate equalizer.
SJ44 April 15th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
FACT: you are wrong.
FACT: once Justin Smoak was added to the deal, it was OVER because the Rangers liked Smoak better than they liked Montero.
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The Rangers and Justin Smoak were not an issue or a factor until Cashman said no to Nova or Nunez. Period.
Oswalt hurt his back today apparently
Roy Oswalt with a back problem apparently. Not the fantastic four
“can you people get over”
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ac1,
who is “you people” ?
I wish #42 would stop walking guys and throwing wild pitches.
Jeter is getting lazy with that flip to 2nd base. He needs to start throwing to 1st, before they don’t actually get the runner at 2nd.
Nothing special there by Logan
How do pitchers have so much trouble running the bases?
ugh
Aceves in for the sox – buchholz goes 5 IP
2 on, no outs in the 6th
Blake,
Oswalt is on my fantasy team and he is pitching tonight. He is up 3-2 in the 7th.
BD,
You doesn’t rile me up.
I laugh at him.
He’s only here when the Yankees are behind and his “facts” always turn out to be hysterical fan boy babble.
He stalks Yankee beat writers on Twitter and they laugh at him.
He is far and away the most mocked Yankee “fan” by those who cover the team as well as those here with functional brain wave activity.
Sox are going to run Aceves into the ground. If Feliciano thought he got worked too hard….
Men, not machines.
If you expect the Yankees to make the olympics every single game, I’m afraid you’re going to be sorely disappointed. Over a 162 game season, there will be players who have some really flat stretches.
It doesn’t mean they’re not great players. It means they’re human.
Unless you think this is a game of wind-up dolls, learn to accept some less than perfect nights.
I know it would make you happier if they were in first place.
Oh wait…
Anyone have the pitch fx data on Logans fastball velocity? I swear he is down 4-5 mph from last year. He was a 94-96 guy for a good portion of last season.
I wonder what the NMore means – is it like the Beyond part of Bed, Bath and Beyond?
Yanks need to push a couple across here….don’t want to let this thing get to Feliz
SJ44,
you know what I mean.
you have alot more to offer the blog than educating imbeciles who have no interest in “learning” anything.
BD, they can’t run CB into the ground because he’s too fast!
can’t use Noesi because Girardi needs him tomorrow once Freddy Garcia goes 3 innings
Anyone have the pitch fx data on Logans fastball velocity? I swear he is down 4-5 mph from last year. He was a 94-96 guy for a good portion of last season.
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93 mph avg last year
91 this year
# syd_cash April 15th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Jeter is getting lazy with that flip to 2nd base. He needs to start throwing to 1st, before they don’t actually get the runner at 2nd.
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Serious ? Baseball much ?
Jeter knows what the heck he doing for quite a while now.
Bryan April 15th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
$200M payroll and the Yankees run out the like of:
Hughes / Colon
Nova
Garcia
Mr. Inconsistent AJ Burnett
As their starters
Now that is a complete freaking JOKE
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Not according to this board.
According to this board, you expect too much and you’re not being fair.
Brian Cashman is THE MAN! Executive of the year! LIFETIME CONTRACT!
Well he was up 3-2
Fran,
yea he pitched but hurt his back running out a ground ball….I think they took him out.
I wonder what the NMore means
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I wish it stood for never more, as in ‘I will be posting never more!’
are we just giving up hacking away at junk
In a rush to go home tonight?
“2 on, no outs in the 6th”
Woo flippin’ hoo!
Tito with the short hook. I certainly understand that when your team has a 2-9 record.
gotta get this starter out of the game
well at least no DP this inning so thats progress
good news… there will be no double play this inning.
Not true moron.
Jack Z wanted Justin Smoak and he never stopped talking to the Rangers until the Rangers relented and put Smoak in the deal.
It had nothing to do with Cashman ineptness.
Sometimes, you have to expand your limited intelligence and see reality.
I know it’s hard but, it’s the only way you will be able to function in society.
AWWWW. Carl Crawford didn’t make the catch. tie game
Carl Crawford misplays a ball in LF
double , tie game
I only get to see them once in a great while. and this is what I get. Probably the worst all around game this year. 3 innings left, but damn!
Yankees haven’t had much luck putting the ball in play this game.
Thanks Blake.
I’ll have to watch the next few days and see if it’s serious.
One reason I hate NL baseball – I’m sorry, if my pitcher is going to go down, let him go down throwing a pitch, not doing something like running the bases.
42 is sure making a lot of outs !
“You doesn’t rile me up.”
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Clearly.
Jerkface – thanks for that pitch fx data. 2mph not as bad as I thought. That could well be a product of it being april and cold.
Classic espn.com headline “rangers pounding yankees in alcs rematch”. Pounding? Down 4 runs? Really?
would Boston be the first team to 10 losses?
Quoth the Jerkface “Never More”………….
Crawford, on his way to becoming a real fan favorite in Beantown….Kinda feel sorry for him.
SJ44 April 15th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Not true moron.
Jack Z wanted Justin Smoak and he never stopped talking to the Rangers until the Rangers relented and put Smoak in the deal.
It had nothing to do with Cashman ineptness.
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Cashman HIMSELF has since admitted that the Mariners asked that he include Nova OR Nunez in the deal and he refused.
They should let Chavez hit for Posada so he can get an at bat or 2 and stay sharp. The Yanks seem to be mailing this one in anyway. It’s amazing how the Rangers are finding these nobodies to actually get people out.
Crawford, on his way to becoming a real fan favorite in Beantown….Kinda feel sorry for him.
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Uhhhh. HELL NO! 7/142. Impossible to feel sorry for him.
YankeesNMore – I’m sure this isn’t going to feel real fair to you, but I am being totally honest. I am going to do my best to get you run off this board. You have an ugliness in you that is your right to have, been when you spend your time doing nothing but spewing your unhappiness in life on a forum where the team is in first place and has won more things than you can probably count, then I don’t want you around. Again, probably not fair, but then again, one person deciding that his misery should be spread around to make everyone else equally miserable, well I think that’s equally unfair.
I really feel bad for you. That’s the truth. But I am short on patience with witting stupidity.
ac1, I kind of feel bad for him too. Sux were the only team who overpaid for him. It isn’t like he was jonesing to go there.
wow….
2 good hitters, 2 Ks.
Nice debut for Pendleton
Heir to Mo
not bad…lets keep this guy lol
Trisha – yankeesnmore isn’t making u or anyone else miserable with his comments……unless you or others are allowing that to happen. Frankly, he doesn’t bother me at all. I agree with virtually nothing he says, and I could care less that he says it.
Jack Z HIMSELF said he NEVER had a deal with the Yankees AND Justin Smoak was the guy he wanted ALL along.
Jack Z had the player. He NOT Brian Cashman, was going to determine where he was trading Cliff Lee.
As soon as the Rangers added Smoak to the deal, it was OVER.
Let it go because you clealy don’t have a clue about this,a Nd just about everything else you discuss here when you get hysterical each time the Yankees are behind in a game.
trish, when you take the money like that, you take the heat when you fail.
it’s different if the rays gave him 7/142, but when it is the Yankees/Sox, you are open to that ridicule.
Joel Sherman must be making things up, too. This from his October 14 recap of that deal gone wrong:
“Over the next several hours Seattle asked the Yankees to replace Adams. The Yankees offered touted righty Adam Warren. The Mariners said EITHER NOVA OR NUNEZ must be the replacement, which was their initial position a week earlier. CASHMAN REFUSED…”
THat’s a fact, jack!
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1Je2CONVC
“I am going to do my best to get you run off this board.”
“then I don’t want you around”
Trisha,
You are seriously mentally ill if you think you can dictate who can post here and who can’t.
if the sox game ends before the astros game or the mariners game, and they lose, first team to 10 losses. love it!
gumbyandpokey, I am seriously mental then, and seriously honest.
SJ knows A-Rod so watch out
YankeesNmore
Go sit on a tack.
And you’re going next.
Joel Sherman must be making things up, too. This from his October 14 recap of that deal gone wrong:
“Over the next several hours Seattle asked the Yankees to replace Adams. The Yankees offered touted righty Adam Warren. The Mariners said EITHER NOVA OR NUNEZ must be the replacement, which was their initial position a week earlier. CASHMAN REFUSED…”
THat’s a fact, jack!
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This doesnt mean he wouldnt have taken the Texas deal anyway.
Said it before and I’ll say it again, AJ will do fine this year as long as he keeps his walks down.
Somewhere in the 2-3 per 9 will do.
cano’s swing is so pretty
more hits than any 2nd baseman since he came up.
i sense a comeback
We have a great chance to gidp here. Perfectly setup
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
YankeesNMore – I’m sure this isn’t going to feel real fair to you, but I am being totally honest. I am going to do my best to get you run off this board.
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Oh dear. Whatever will I do now?
You have to be kidding me…..
5 double plays? really?
Jackie Robinson hits into another double play
posted too quickly. this game is the revenge of the double play
Yanks have double played there way out of this one
i’m glad Andruw can have a good laugh about all the double plays
OMG. Another DP.
Whats the record of team DP’s in one game, seriously?
i’m glad Andruw can have a good laugh about all the double plays
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I think that is just his face. Always looks like he is smiling, but he was shaking his head.
ac1, of course I hear what you’re saying. I guess I have a spot in my heart for him because I feel bad he wasn’t more seriously courted. You know how my emotions get all jumbled up over those kinds of things.
But it could be that I am seriously mental.
Just go and ask the former poster gumbyandpoky!!!
Normy–
Since you like to focus on negatives, I would like to help make your day. Just think, in 10 to 20 years, the chances are that you will be dead.
Enjoy! (No need to thank me.)
1 DP away from tying the AL record, 2 away from tying the MLB record
This doesnt mean he wouldnt have taken the Texas deal anyway.
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True. But you know what it DOES mean???
It means as far as Brian Cashman is concerned, Nova AND Nunez were BOTH deal-breakers for Cliff Lee. PERIOD.
Bobby Jenks in trouble already. 1st and 3rd nobody out.
FIVE doubleplays.
It is almost like Yanks were pre-destined to lose this game….
Still two more innings, anything can happen, just like yesterday….
was it me or did it seem jones showed no hustle there??
One of my biggest pet peeves in baseball is swinging at the first pitch.. even if it’s a hit and not an out.. make the pitcher throw the ball.. no excuse.
Jenks getting ready to give up the lead…..
“1 DP away from tying the AL record, 2 away from tying the MLB record”
Might as well try and get it now.
im thinking we wouldnt have been any better off with crawford than we are with gardner. in fact, i think gardners average may be higher and i think he is a better left fielder than little cc.
ac1 April 15th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
i’m glad Andruw can have a good laugh about all the double plays
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I think that is just his face. Always looks like he is smiling, but he was shaking his head.
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maybe he’s doing that laugh instead of cry thing…sure hope so
Bobby Jenks doing his best to put the Sox at 2-10
2 on, no outs
buchholz sucks
Bojy –
As my buddy Buzzkill used to say on The Daily News blog: “WE’RE DOOMED!!!”
Wish Montero could play left field…..
BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Normy–
Since you like to focus on negatives, I would like to help make your day. Just think, in 10 to 20 years, the chances are that you will be dead.
Enjoy! (No need to thank me.)
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Ahhhh yes… The sweet release of death!
Nova is fun to watch when he has his best stuff (that Os game in ST. The Chi Sox gane last year, etc.). Not so much otherwise.
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
ac1, of course I hear what you’re saying. I guess I have a spot in my heart for him because I feel bad he wasn’t more seriously courted. You know how my emotions get all jumbled up over those kinds of things.
But it could be that I am seriously mental.
Just go and ask the former poster gumbyandpoky!!!
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trisha i’ve always had a soft spot for Crawford…of course he’s a redsox now so no more of that
and i like this pendleton fella so far.
“Oh dear. Whatever will I do now?”
Be miserable elsewhere?
Is that Lance Pendleton or Dustin Moseley out there?
nice work so far
speaking of moseley, he is 0-3 with an ERA under 2.
Must love playing in SD.
This Pendleton guy is looking good with a 88 mph fastball.
Obviouly, he is locating well and secondary pitches are working.
YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Normy–
Since you like to focus on negatives, I would like to help make your day. Just think, in 10 to 20 years, the chances are that you will be dead.
Enjoy! (No need to thank me.)
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Ahhhh yes… The sweet release of death!
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Kontos gets a mention.
Maybe we will see him this year, if he can stay healthy.
Who claimed and returned Pendleton?
ugh…
Did anyone notice Cano’s little pose before he ran to first ? He always does it. It sometimes costs him a chance at a double or triple. Don’t know why he does kit, but he’s still outstanding.
Andruw J. smiles at everything.
This performance by Harrison shouldn’t surprise anyone. Coming into this game he was 2-0 with a 1.29 ERA.
And Texas leads the major leagues in team ERA 2.55, fewest runs allowed 34 and lowest batting average against .206
Hey Normy–For your tag line, could you update it to “We’re DOOMED!”?
everyone except alex and cano should be sent down to aaa
pat April 15th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Who claimed and returned Pendleton?
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Houston–who else would judge talent so poorly?
# pat April 15th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Who claimed and returned Pendleton?
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Lastros
trying to find rule 5ers. Johan Santana no?
syd_cash, I think if he came out knocking the tar out of the ball I could have formed an instant hate. But because he’s not yet a “real” Suxer to me, and because he’s struggling, I feel sad for him. I feel sad that someone with his ability has to be linked to that rag-tag, sad-ass, slouching zero of a team.
That’s all.
Mitre has looked really good for Milwaukee, believe it or not.
Very impressive outing by Pendleton.
nice job by Pendleton…..now is the time for this game. Get the bats going
might as well let Pendleton keep going.
Okay hypothetical question:
Game 7 world series at Yankee Stadium.. Yanks down by 2 bottom of the 9th, 2 outs and the bases loaded..
Other than Arod, who would you want up at bat, and why?
This performance by Harrison shouldn’t surprise anyone. Coming into this game he was 2-0 with a 1.29 ERA.
And Texas leads the major leagues in team ERA 2.55, fewest runs allowed 34 and lowest batting average against .206
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Their FIP and XFIP and BB/9 and K/9 and BABIP and LD% and LOB% != that ERA. Unless you think Harrison is going to survive giving up some of the hard shots he gave up tonight on a regular basis while not striking people out and walking a lot of people.
Did anyone notice Cano’s little pose before he ran to first ? He always does it. It sometimes costs him a chance at a double or triple. Don’t know why he does kit, but he’s still outstanding.
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It is not a pose.
It is the natural momentum of his swing.
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
“Oh dear. Whatever will I do now?”
Be miserable elsewhere?
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Your problems are in the mirror, Trisha.
Pendleton = Dan Geese (when he was actually good).
“everyone except alex and cano should be sent down to aaa”.
Then who do you want to play ?
Other than Arod, who would you want up at bat, and why?
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Maybe Posada….
He seems to come up big in the clutch.
AWWWW. Jays just took the lead 4-3.
Bautista crushes one off the LF wall
Jays take the lead
This Harrison kid combined with CJ Wilson would kill Boston in a play-off series.
Bautista just put a dent in the monster….4-3 Jays.
“Your problems are in the mirror, Trisha.”
Damn! Who told you I stole your mirror sadsack?
jenks winning clubhouse support in boston….
I think they would also kill Phillies if both ever got to WS>
“Other than Arod, who would you want up at bat, and why?”
Jeter because he is clutch and has a proven history of coming through in big spots in the playoffs. He’s not going to be phased by the moment or swing too hard. Just a hard line drive to RF.
This Harrison kid combined with CJ Wilson would kill Boston in a play-off series.
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Yeah, Boston isnt going to the playoffs.
We’re talking about a guy with a career 5 ERA. If he was on the Yankees you guys would have crushed him for being in the rotation.
Okay hypothetical question:
Game 7 world series at Yankee Stadium.. Yanks down by 2 bottom of the 9th, 2 outs and the bases loaded..
Other than Arod, who would you want up at bat, and why?
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Cano, because he can hit anyone.
Jays get one, looking for more….
watching the Sox blow a 3 run lead is making up for hte Yanks struggles tonight.
Bojo – what playoff series is boston playing in?
AWWWW. Now 5-3 and still only one out!
Good going Bobby Junks!
P April 15th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Okay hypothetical question:
Game 7 world series at Yankee Stadium.. Yanks down by 2 bottom of the 9th, 2 outs and the bases loaded..
Other than Arod, who would you want up at bat, and why?
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Better question: How far down the list is Derek Jeter???
Seriously, I am curious to your answers to my question above.
Guy is giving up 4.5 hits per 9, that ain’t gonna last.
another crappy Texas pitcher that somehow gets the job done. How is their staff doing so well this year?
5-3 Jays. Jenks < Joba
“Yeah, Boston isnt going to the playoffs.”
Truth as spoken!
Sox pitching is struggling but at least their offense…
wait, they have 2 hits tonight.
oh well, hello 2-10
WOW, that was cruuuuuushed.
Seriously, I am curious to your answers to my question above.
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Cano
turns out grandy can hit left handed pitching
Granderson got into that one….finally some signs of life
an A-bomb….oh wait…i’m mean go Grandy!!! He’s been swinging it nice lately
“Sox pitching is struggling but at least their offense…
wait, they have 2 hits tonight.
oh well, hello 2-10″
Would someone load the bases for Grandy, please ?
HR champ Jose Bautista steals 3rd on Salty
ouch
That’s one way to avoid the double play!
“”"P April 15th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Okay hypothetical question:
Game 7 world series at Yankee Stadium.. Yanks down by 2 bottom of the 9th, 2 outs and the bases loaded..
Other than Arod, who would you want up at bat, and why?
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Better question: How far down the list is Derek Jeter???”"”"
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What’s crazy is that just 3 years ago I might have chosen him.
Grandy just CRUSHED that !!! He has the most solo HR’s than anybody.
It’s at times like this that I wish Bob Ueker (sp?) was announcing radio for the Yankees.
“This Harrison kid combined with CJ Wilson would kill Boston in a play-off series.”
Are you giving up on Yanks. We may face Texas first. And Boston may not even make it to the playoffs.
1. Alex
2. Posada
3. Cano
Are you giving up on Yanks. We may face Texas first. And Boston may not even make it to the playoffs.
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May not?
They are about to go to 10 losses.
And so that nobody can accuse me of being a bandwagoner when it comes to saying the Sux won’t be in the postseason, I said it before the season even began!
thank you, thank you.
let’s go Yanks!
I’ll buy stock in a pie company if you pull it off tonight
Nice placement by the capn….
Jeter read the blog, racking up infield hits
Does that count as an outfield hit?
BJK April 15th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Weird that I actually look forward to watching Granderson hit against lefties these days.
Jeter is living on infield singles this year.
Lol. Jeter with another infield hit!
so who thinks another DP???? (I want to get excited but all the DP’s i can’t)
Derek is master of the infield hit.
Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Bojo – what playoff series is boston playing in?
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MLB Fantasy Play-Offs 2011…In stores now!
dear swish, anything but a DP please…
My 20$ bet that Jeter’s 3000th hit will be a single is looking like a good one.
Glad you can predict the future JF. Should serve you well.
P – here are guys I would want up: granderson, cano, martin
Here are guys I would not want up: swisher, jeter (only because its been a long time since he thrived in a spot such as this and recent history says he wouldn’t deliver)
i will throw my laptop if swish hits into a DP.
‘This Harrison kid combined with CJ Wilson would kill Boston in a play-off series.’
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Wouldn’t be afraid of Wilson, who lead the AL in walks last year and doesn’t go deep into games.
Or Harrison, who has peripherals to suggest that he is lucky. He basically has a Buchholz-esque line.
Still waiting for Lewis to come back down to earth.
Ogando? Filthy stuff. Will be interesting to see how he holds up. Not sold on Holland.
Their best starter is their closer.
Excellent O though,.
“another crappy Texas pitcher that somehow gets the job done. How is their staff doing so well this year?”
Triple, seriously, they have some really good pitching.
wait doesn’t the HR count as an outfield hit?
Now is the time to strike.
Somehow get to Alex.
Tonight’s Red Sox game is already 5x funnier than The Office last night.
6-3 Jays and counting
Seriously, if Jeter takes the first pitch (was is about 30% of the time) he swings at the second pitch 95% of the time.. he just doesn’t seem to be seeing the ball well at all.. and there he goes with a hit.. another weak ground ball that somehow found a hole.. Obviously, I’ll take it !
I am just going to start calling him “Grounder”.
7-3 in Boston.
7-3
10x funnier
BBFan April 15th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
“This Harrison kid combined with CJ Wilson would kill Boston in a play-off series.”
Are you giving up on Yanks. We may face Texas first. And Boston may not even make it to the playoffs.
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Not at all. I’m just pointing out how absurd the pre-season predictions were. Texas would have killed them.
Glad you can predict the future JF. Should serve you well.
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Are you predicting he is going to maintain a 1 ERA?
Besides Arod, I’d pick Cano, then Posada…..Teix has not yet proven he can get the big hit consistently in the playoffs….Cano has a sweet swing and can hit any kind of pitching, Sado has been there many times before….
And yes, up until a couple of years ago I would have said Jeter first but just not sure he can do it anymore….I would love to be proven wrong by the Captain, however….
Jenks’s stuff really doesn’t look very good and it didn’t the other night against the Yanks either.
here’s what you need to know about Nova
15… IP
256…PC
7 +..ERA
12..Runs
13..Hits
9..Walks
trisha,
CJ Wilson, Colby Lewis, Matt Harrison? These are not good pitchers
7-3 Jays now.
get this inning to Alex.
c1 April 15th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
i will throw my laptop if swish hits into a DP.
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Who’s near ?
Red Lobster April 15th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
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You miss my point. Left handers are going to dominate the Red Sox line-up…
7-3 jays
6 DPs WTF
called it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIDICULOUS
sickening.
blake,
in Jenks’ defense, the home plate ump has been horrible tonight for both sides.
Jenks isn’t getting his fastball by anyone, but his changeup has looked good. problem is, he needs to set up the changeup with the fastball first.
“i will throw my laptop if swish hits into a DP.”
You jinxed it
Good grief. This one aint meant to be guys…..
This is not a record the Yanks wanted. The hitting into DP record.
Maybe it’s time to put a hit and run on?
What an embarrassing record…SIX DP’s!!
Absolutely infuriating. I’d laugh if I didn’t want to break something.
c1 April 15th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
i will throw my laptop if swish hits into a DP.
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Throw it to me! Throw it to me!!!
YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Joel Sherman must be making things up, too. This from his October 14 recap of that deal gone wrong:
“Over the next several hours Seattle asked the Yankees to replace Adams. The Yankees offered touted righty Adam Warren. The Mariners said EITHER NOVA OR NUNEZ must be the replacement, which was their initial position a week earlier. CASHMAN REFUSED…”
THat’s a fact, jack!
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports…..z1Je2CONVC
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Boy, SJ sure shut up fast.
There’s an american league record for DP’s… 6 is waaaaay too many and expect to win a game, seriously!
Everyone look out for UFO !
Thats what Swisher gets for trying to play fundamental nice piece of hitting baseball. A double play.
Sock dingers 24/7
This just is not a good offense without the HR ball.
BD,
his command has been bad…he’s not throwing quality strikes and he’s not getting ahead. Their pen is a real issue for them
# NYY fan in NH April 15th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
There’s an american league record for DP’s… 6 is waaaaay too many and expect to win a game, seriously!
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Much like 5 turnovers in NFL !
You just can’t predict baseball….
ok i threw it.
got a soft cover because i would be an idiot not to, watching some of these games.
took an ugly bounce
joeman April 15th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
here’s what you need to know about Nova
15… IP
256…PC
7 +..ERA
12..Runs
13..Hits
9..Walks
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You forgot Cliff Lee deal-breaker!
Brian Cashman knows his baseball!
6 dp’s ties AL record
Bojo – I didn’t miss ur point. Ur point was boston was going to struggle versus lefties and they u proved ur a comedian by referencing the sox in the playoffs. I read u perfectly.
I don’t make many predictions JF. I observe and comment or try to. So far Texas pitching has been great, as in major league leading great. I have no idea if it is going to continue or not. Neither do you. Harrison is obviously a very talented composed young left hander with a good change and arm. Or did the Yankees just tie an AL record for hitting into 6 double plays because we can’t hit?
I wonder if “swish” stuck his tongue out after hitting into the record DP?
Is Phil watching Pendleton?
He is living with a sub-90 fastball.
If Tex can get on base (preferrably a double), i call walk off from Posada.
No offense intended, but people that call the Redsox “The Sux” or any other team a silly nick name like that, almost embarrass me to even be considered a fan with them. Even my friends who are mostly freshman do not act so immaturely. It’s as bad as hearing the Boston fans change “Yankee’s Suck!” the other night. No class at all.
Maybe it’s just me, but I respect all baseball teams and players, even the ones I don’t like.. If I offended you for posting this, it was not my intention. I just wanted to share that it really bothers me when I read it. Bleh!
# gumbyandpokey April 15th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I wonder if “swish” stuck his tongue out after hitting into the record DP?
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At least he didn’t smile !
“joeman April 15th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
here’s what you need to know about Nova
15… IP
256…PC
7 +..ERA
12..Runs
13..Hits
9..Walks”
Nova is no better this year than last. There’s been no growth or improvement. The Yankee starting staff is below average, which is inexcusable.
“”"Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Absolutely infuriating. I’d laugh if I didn’t want to break something.”"”
Carlo did you call it?
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I don’t make many predictions JF. I observe and comment or try to. So far Texas pitching has been great, as in major league leading great. I have no idea if it is going to continue or not. Neither do you. Harrison is obviously a very talented composed young left hander with a good change and arm. Or did the Yankees just tie an AL record for hitting into 6 double plays because we can’t hit?
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So you sit around thinking that whatever a players current stats are is their level of ability? Thats really dumb.
You have to put the ball in play and have runners on base to ground into double plays, so I’m not so sure its all on Harrison. Same guy with a 1.5 career whip and terrible seasons that are worse than any joba chamberlain season. Yet you seem to predict gloom and doom for him.
# YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
joeman April 15th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
here’s what you need to know about Nova
15… IP
256…PC
7 +..ERA
12..Runs
13..Hits
9..Walks
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You forgot Cliff Lee deal-breaker!
Brian Cashman knows his baseball!
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well if that is a fact he blew it for sure
42 is our best pitcher tonight.
( as usual )
did he go over 90mph?
Jerkface, stop. Swish not trying to advance runner down 3 runs.
At least the Yankees will still be in first place by the end of the night. For all the talent in the AL East, no one has gotten off to a great start.
One bright spot tonight – Lance Pendleton. Nice debut.
Noesi will probably be there tomorrow in case Freddy struggles…
“42 is our best pitcher tonight.
( as usual )”
lol
“CJ Wilson, Colby Lewis, Matt Harrison? These are not good pitchers”
Triple, they have some good young pitchers. Matt Harrison came into this game with a 2-0 record and a 1.29 ERA. In most places that would be called good. Then you might want to take a good hard look at Alexi Ogando and Derek Holland.
As I said, they have some seriously good pitching.
this staff is falling apart and it’s going to start hurting the pen with IP
Nice job by Pendleton
the pen will be fine. They always have two long men available. The SP, who knows.
joeman April 15th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
here’s what you need to know about Nova
15… IP
256…PC
7 +..ERA
12..Runs
13..Hits
9..Walks
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Would be fine if the guys in front of him could get outs (and pitch some innings).
Now we have Garcia, who hasn’t pitched in like 3 weeks, going tomorrow against a hot lineup. Colon might be another Nova – good for 3-4 innings, then runs out of gas. God forbid Burnett goes in a slump or has a bad game. Maybe we can actually score some runs for CC on Sunday,
No Jerkface I don’t predict doom and gloom for Joba. I have said he is pitching well in the role that he is best suited for on this team, a relief pitcher.
Matt Harrison came into this game with a 2-0 record and a 1.29 ERA. In most places that would be called good.
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Derek Holland and Matt Harrison have career 5 ERA’s. Worse records than Ivan Nova and not many people here a big fan of Ivan.
Its fun that Matt Harrison has a good record 3 starts into the 2011 season, but so did Hughes last year and once again, we all know what people think of him.
P – I agree with u re “the sux”. I hate the socks with a passion, but when people call them the “suxers” and all this other nonsense it just sounds childish and lame. Kind of a pet peeve of mine…….akin to grounding into 22 double plays in a single game.
This Feliz got me a lot of points last year in Fantasy League…A heck of an arm.
No Jerkface I don’t predict doom and gloom for Joba. I have said he is pitching well in the role that he is best suited for on this team, a relief pitcher.
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You had him demoted to 4th inning pitcher
Tex needs to get this inning off to a good start, but please get to 2nd.
And Jerkface as I said – if you can predict what Texas pitching is going to do in the future – that extraordinary skill you possess will serve you well.
With Tex, Alex, Cano and Sado coming up, we still have a chance…..
And Neftali Feliz is quietly sick.
Tex just need to lay off the changeups.
No I never said such a thing – it was the 6th inning I believe.
if you can predict what Texas pitching is going to do in the future – that extraordinary skill you possess will serve you well.
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I can certainly make an educated guess.
A-Rod missed another one
“You had him demoted to 4th inning pitcher”
Definitely had sarcastically and condescendingly (and continually) spit in his face and relegated him for the junk heap,
trisha,
So you are calling Harrison good based on 3 starts this year? Holland has been horrible since he came up. Ogando? He wasn’t even supposed to be a starter this year. Lewis is so good that he got pounded all the way to Japan
at least no DP now
A little known fact about Feliz…at the age of 23, he already has 46 saves. If he maintains his 40 saves per year pace, in 30 years, he will have more saves than Mo or anyone else.
Not trading Montero is the best non-trade for Cashman since he became Yankee GM.
And Lee would have left anyway.
Just missed a HR there.
Alex needs to stop jogging on those hits.
You forgot Cliff Lee deal-breaker!
Brian Cashman knows his baseball!
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well if that is a fact he blew it for sure
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I don’t know man… I mean we’re talking about having to give up a future middle reliever or our utility man that never plays…
And all we were getting back is Cliff Lee!
Brian Cashman = Executive of the Year!
Ball isn’t carrying at all tonight…
Patience, Cano…
What is Alex chewing? Popcorn
The good news is probably no DP now
Fran, never say never.
jacksquat April 15th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Not trading Montero is the best non-trade for Cashman since he became Yankee GM.
And Lee would have left anyway.
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You base all of that one WHAT, exactly???
Montero falling flat on his face with the bat and losing a major league job in ST???
Or the reality that he still sucks defensively as a catcher???
And how do you know that Cliff Lee wouldn’t have LOVED it here, especially if the Yankees won the World Series again, which they just might have done.
# ac1 April 15th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Alex needs to stop jogging on those hits.
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He thinks this is 07 where every ball ended up in the seats
Well that was weak.
lame
trisha – true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Definitely had sarcastically and condescendingly (and continually) spit in his face and relegated him for the junk heap.
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No, that was you.
that would have been the 7th dp if Alex wasn’t at 2nd
No Jerkface I don’t predict doom and gloom for Joba. I have said he is pitching well in the role that he is best suited for on this team, a relief pitcher
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How can anyone keep up with what you say?
You flip flop and change your opinions on things day to day.
Yesterday you are mocking people for wanting Hughes DLd. Today you ate saying putting him on the DL is the right call.
Like Yogi would say, “nobody is on when the bases are empty. ”
( for A-Rod )
ac1,
Note that I did say probably
Now for sure, no more DPs tonight.
*say* not ate
Game is still alive
Oh yeah, Posada can tie it up.
“Not trading Montero is the best non-trade for Cashman since he became Yankee GM.
And Lee would have left anyway.”
Not necessarily. Lee might have enjoyed being on the Yanks and stayed.
one swing away from a tie ball game….that’s really all you could ask for
Chavez!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can anyone keep up with what you say?
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He can only formulate opinions based on what is happening presently. Hughes wasn’t on the DL yesterday so it was good. Now he is, so now THAT is right.
Just like the Rangers have good pitching, until they don’t.
He is like an opinion front runner.
Another unreasonable observation on my part.
“Hey Joe. Play Chavez more.”
Chavez needs to be in there for a bit ! Don’t ya’ think Joe ?
Can Posada do it again?
Did Yogi really say that?
Rarity to lose when you’ve doubled the other team’s hits total.
Gardner STEALS!!!
Take that you Gardner Bashers!
“Derek Holland and Matt Harrison have career 5 ERA’s. Worse records than Ivan Nova and not many people here a big fan of Ivan.”
I guess if you want to look at 2 years and 4 years respectively as a career, have at!
Of course we know that players never improve.
And seeing I am a big fan of Ivan, well I absolutely ignore your constant need to pull out your abacus in order to talk results.
Gee, it’s possible that suckola umpiring behind the plate accounted for those pitchers having to throw more than three strikes to get an out, and the ensuing ERA.
Until you can come back with stats borne of accurate calls, your stats to me are meaningless.
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However, I CAN predict the future. Texas pitching is going to continue to kick ass.
I didn’t think Hughes should be sent down, if they are going to do something I like what they did keeping him here. That’s their call, not mine.
4 NYY April 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Chavez needs to be in there for a bit ! Don’t ya’ think Joe
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And where do you play him
# ericns1 April 15th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Did Yogi really say that?
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Nah, I’m just funnin’ !
YNM, I base it on not being an idiot like you.
carlo, me too. it really is super lame.. especialky when its adults that doing it.
ac1,
he thought he had it but no excuse. my dad taught/empasized three things when plyn baseball..
never EVER swing at the first pitch and always hustle no matter what and respect the other team as if your own!
posada looking dead red……
put in molina for martin. trust me
Pie for Russell?
thought Jorge would pounce on that 2-0 fastball
but ok
pinch run for Jorge
please
Come on Martin! You could get a plaque in Monument Park “IF” . . .
Awwww
CRAP!!!
man, so close……..
# BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Take that you Gardner Bashers!
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only way he can get on base is PR
Oh well. If not for all of those DPs, the Yanks probably would have won tonight.
Martin just missed it. Just got under the ball.
Good try at a comeback. Oh well.
9 hits to 4, but DP’s, walks, HBP killed us.
“No, that was you. ”
No I don’t have your reputation of saying one thing and then when fortunes change jumping on the latest bandwagon and pretending I was there all the time.
In fact I am someone who never turned my back on Joba since I was intelligent enough to know the kid wasn’t going to turn into a pumpkin just because phonies like yourself were ready to kick him to the curb.
Score yet another for me.
Feliz was really to crap his pants and Martin swings at the 1st pitch? Absolutely dreadful at bats by Cano and Martin.
# West Coast Yankee Fan April 15th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Good try at a comeback. Oh well.
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Yes, it was.
“How can anyone keep up with what you say?
You flip flop and change your opinions on things day to day.”
You noticed that too?
DPs killed us today.
We are still in first place in the AL east (probably tied with Jays).
Take it easy with the loss…..
I told you
Awww Trishy.
Does anyone else think Martin should have been sacrificing there?
“We are still in first place in the AL east (probably tied with Jays).
Take it easy with the loss…..”
Yep.
I do applaud your consistency, your mindless blabber never changes.
“”"trisha – true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
“How can anyone keep up with what you say?
You flip flop and change your opinions on things day to day.”
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Seriously, what is wrong with changing your opinion? It’s those that continue to fight to make their point even when they know they’re wrong, because they can’t admit it… that are the ignorant ones.
If we aren’t allowed to change are minds, what good would that be?
# joeman April 15th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
4 NYY April 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Chavez needs to be in there for a bit ! Don’t ya’ think Joe
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And where do you play him
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The guy has hit almost every ball this year hard. Share some game with Po.
P April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
If we aren’t allowed to change are minds, what good would that be?
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You have no clue what the issue is here. There’s history.
The Rays won yet again, putting even more space between them and the ever-flagging Sux.
“If we aren’t allowed to change are minds, what good would that be?”
This loser has a history of blowing in the wind and being a frontrunner with his comments and when things change he becomes a frontrunner in the opposite direction.
That’s chicanery and hypocrisy.
7% of the season is now over.
No it’s called not being an idiot and trying to predict the future – and smart fans observe and comment on what they see. Things change in baseball daily. If Joba sucks when he gives up two walks, two hits and two runs like he did a few games back that is a valid observation. If he pitches well, that is a valid observation as well.
No go back to something you do well like endless Red Sox blabber.
“”"BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
P April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
If we aren’t allowed to change are minds, what good would that be?
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You have no clue what the issue is here. There’s history.”"”
Seem to me there’s petty bickering.. somehow Trisha is again is in the middle of it.
RMS April 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
“Not trading Montero is the best non-trade for Cashman since he became Yankee GM.
And Lee would have left anyway.”
Not necessarily. Lee might have enjoyed being on the Yanks and stayed.
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Clearly you don’t know how this board works….
EVERY player move the Yankees make is exactly the right move, regardless of what it is…
Had we ended up with Lee, it’s the exact right move. When we don’t, that becomes the exact right move.
Truth and facts are ignored… Everything, after the fact, is molded and altered to fit the story of how the Yankees, regardless of what they did or how it turned out, did EXACTLY the right thing.
new post
P April 15th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Seem to me there’s petty bickering.. somehow Trisha is again is in the middle of it.
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Imagine that.
if something unpleasant is going on, she’s involved