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Wild inning costs Yankees, carries Rangers

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 15, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post


It was a three-run fifth inning that made the difference for tonight, and that inning came with the Rangers getting only one hit. Ivan Nova and Dave Robertson combined to walk three batters, hit a batter and throw three wild pitches in the fifth, and the three runs that came across carried the Rangers to a 5-3 win. Nova hasn’t pitched out of the fifth in either of his past two starts. The pitching bright spot for the Yankees was easily Lance Pendleton, who was called up earlier in the day and pitched three hitless innings in his big league debut.

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156 Responses to “Wild inning costs Yankees, carries Rangers”

  1. ac1 April 15th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    At least the Yankees are showing life in the 9th inning.

  2. Fran the original April 15th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    ac1,

    They did keep battling. The DPs killed them tonight.

  3. Carl April 15th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Joe G takes out Nova at the right time, maybe we tie/win this game.

  4. Captain Clutch April 15th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Posada and Chavez should split time at DH. They have to take advantage of his hot bat.

  5. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Not going to win probably any games when you GIDP 6 times

  6. Jerkface April 15th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Not going to win probably any games when you GIDP 6 times

    -

    Unless it goes along with 20 hits

  7. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Does anyone else think Martin should have been sacrificing there?

  8. pat April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    YankeesWFAN RT @joe_sheehan: The Yankees weren’t going to go down easy on Mariano Rivera Day.

    :smile:

  9. kd April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    it’s a total anomaly to hit into 6 dp’s. sure the pitcher has a lot to do with that, sometimes the odds are just stacked against you.

    that being said, there’s no quit in this team at all. a great sign for a team that will have some 5 inning starts

  10. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Yea the double plays doomed them tonight…..that’s the way it goes. They are showing some fight late in games and I like that. At least they aren’t about to fall to 2-10.

  11. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    If the Yankees keep playing like this in the ninth, they could have more come from behinds this year than John Holmes.

  12. Captain Clutch April 15th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    I know Girardi wants to save the bullpen as best as he can but he has to have a quicker hook with the starters. Especially Nova who still hasn’t proved that he can pitch past the 4th inning. The tack on runs in those innings are going to hurt them later in the games.

  13. gumbyandpokey April 15th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Sure seems like Cano has regressed this season.

  14. Against All Odds April 15th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    # gumbyandpokey April 15th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Sure seems like Cano has regressed this season.

    ——————————————-

    He’ll be fine Long will get him back to last yr. Regressed might by too strong of a word

  15. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Have we played even 10% of the games yet?! Seems a little too early to make final determinations on how players are going to do for the season…

    Except of course for Gio Gonzalez…

  16. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Yes, Gio Gonzalez.

    :)

  17. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    And the mighty Ogundo

  18. Captain Clutch April 15th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Cano just has to get back to being more patient like he was last year. In the 9th inng he should of walked but instead he helped Feliz out and swung at balls off the plate.

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    “Sure seems like Cano has regressed this season.”

    You still here? I thought I got you banned!

    :D

  20. Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    John Holmes reference = Amazing

    Solid work Bojo. Tough to laugh after watching 16 GIDP in one game, but that did it for me.

  21. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    “And the mighty Ogundo”

    And the mighty Ogundo! Thank you Bojy.

    I’m feeling mighty powerful at this point!

  22. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    7% of the season is now over.

  23. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Carlo–

    I was timing it before someone got the joke…Thanks to you, I didn’t have to stay up all night.

    :-)

  24. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Would have been nice to get this one tonight with Garcia throwing tomorrow….he hasn’t pitched in so long its tough to know what you’ll get out of him. Hopefully they’ll bring the bats tomorrow.

  25. Fran the original April 15th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    For any hockey fans out there, the NY Rangers lost 2-0 and are down 2 games to 0.

  26. gumbyandpokey April 15th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Cano’s plate discipline, or lack thereof, is back to what it was a few seasons ago. Add that revolting development to his worsening defense and it doesn’t look like a stellar season is on the horizon.

  27. Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    I hope the next 7% involves better starting pitching. Hopefully wang gets his act together on the DL.

  28. Against All Odds April 15th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    talk about panicking

  29. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Blake–The funniest things happen in baseball. WIth Garcia and Molina as the battery, one would think the Yankees have little chance…but quite often, these games go to the underdogs. It keeps me coming back to watch!

  30. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    RMS April 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
    “Not trading Montero is the best non-trade for Cashman since he became Yankee GM.

    And Lee would have left anyway.”

    Not necessarily. Lee might have enjoyed being on the Yanks and stayed.
    ———————————————————————
    Clearly you don’t know how this board works….

    EVERY player move the Yankees make is exactly the right move, regardless of what it is…

    Had we ended up with Lee, it’s the exact right move. When we don’t, that becomes the exact right move.

    Truth and facts are ignored… Everything, after the fact, is molded and altered to fit the story of how the Yankees, regardless of what they did or how it turned out, did EXACTLY the right thing.

  31. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    I hope the next 7% involves better starting pitching. Hopefully wang gets his act together on the DL
    _______________
    Was the Wang reference because you were thinking of John Holmes?

  32. Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    The Yankees have no choice but to develop young pitchers, so they have to show patience.

    They showed patience with AJ and Vazquez last season. There is no reason not to do the same with Nova.

  33. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Garcia vs Texas last year

    7 IP 2 runs

    6 IP 3 runs

  34. Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    John holmes was never as limp as the 09 wang or the 2011 version of wang, phil wang.

  35. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Bojo,

    True….wouldn’t shock me.

  36. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Normy–

    I beg to differ with you. Prior to the Lee trade, several here (including myself) were arguing against the trade. Many were arguing against signing him as a FA. There usually is quite a debate on each player, acquisition, possible trade, etc. That IMO is what makes the blog interesting. People argue passionately and BSers get called out. One has to come here with there A game arguments.

  37. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    The Yankees have no choice but to develop young pitchers, so they have to show patience.
    ————————————————————————————-
    All thanks to the fine work of Brian Cashman.

  38. Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    I have to go to sleep now so I can hear michael kay saying “grounded to second, flips to andrus for one…….on to first…..double plaaayyyy”.

  39. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Phil Wang–wow! Good one.

  40. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    LGY,

    He certainly could pitch well….but he hasn’t pitched in so long it wouldn’t be that surprising if he isn’t sharp.

  41. gumbyandpokey April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    But Nova isn’t showing any development. He still can’t get through a fifth inning, whether he was throwing well up until that point or not.

    Just because the guy is young doesn’t mean he will pan out and become a good starter. Better off to move the young guys and get proven talent, imo.

  42. Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    “All thanks to the fine work of Brian Cashman.”

    Exactly. He has assembled sufficient young talent to be able to develop young pitchers.

    I knew you had some positivity somewhere inside of you.

  43. Bo knows April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    It’s amazing one idiot comes up with this, “Can’t get past 4 innings” and it’s like a flood of lemmings. Facts don’t dissuade them, nothing. Limited minds can only accept limited input.

    It’s cold and miserable. The kid had problems with control. That’s the most walks he had ever given up. It’ll get warmer, his control will improve, das it. They didn’t exactly moider him out there.

    Can’t get past four innings – mumble, cretins, mumble.

  44. Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Yanks win tomorrow. Put it in the books. Good night fellas.

  45. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Blake

    Oh yeah, definitely.

    I was just posting that because I thought people would want to know.

  46. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    One has to come here with there A game arguments.
    ———————————————
    You mean like, “Nova and Nunez weren’t “deal-breakers” to Cashman in the Lee trade???

    This board has as many Kool-Aid guzzling cheerleaders as any.

  47. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    The Yankees have no choice but to develop young pitchers, so they have to show patience.
    ————————————————————————————-
    All thanks to the fine work of Brian Cashman.
    ____________
    Again, I would disagree. This is more about the change in baseball economics…where revenue sharing has given teams the resources to sign their young starts to contract extensions that keep the best young pitchers off the market until they are past 30 years old. CONSEQUENTLY, Cashman had to change the team strategy from signing FAs to developing from within.

    That was a brilliant move by Cashman.

  48. Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    “But Nova isn’t showing any development. He still can’t get through a fifth inning, whether he was throwing well up until that point or not.”

    He actually pitched well in his first start, but development isn’t always linear. So development needs to be viewed over a longer time horizon.

  49. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    LGY,

    That is good to know :) Molina is catching so they’ll have offense to spare.

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    So you know, I really like living on the edge, and I like it when the Sux are losing at the end of the game and the Sux fans actually think they have a chance to win. I even like it when they leave runners on base in the bottom of the 9th and only lose by one run!

    However, I’d be happy if the Jays would get this final out in the bottom of the 8th!!!

  51. Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    “Just because the guy is young doesn’t mean he will pan out and become a good starter. Better off to move the young guys and get proven talent, imo.”

    Like Javy Vazquez?

    And that’s not to criticize Cashman because he was very good in 2009.

    The point is that the idea that proven talent is superior to young talent is often false.

  52. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
    “All thanks to the fine work of Brian Cashman.”

    Exactly. He has assembled sufficient young talent to be able to develop young pitchers.
    ——————————————————
    The next significant pitcher this organization will develop under Cashman will be the FIRST.

    Of course, he’s only been the GM for about 15 years.

    Oh… wait… I forgot about the great Phil Hughes… Better known as “the next Roger Clemens.” laughable

  53. Carlo April 15th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    The Sox live and die by the infield single. Its hard to win games that away against bad starting pitching. Bad starting pitching will limit the infield singles and they will be shut down.

  54. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    “He actually pitched well in his first start, but development isn’t always linear. So development needs to be viewed over a longer time horizon.”

    Geeze yes.

  55. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Yes because everyone judges a pitchers development after 3 starts. He’s going to struggles…..that’s part of the deal if you go with young players.

  56. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
    One has to come here with there A game arguments.
    ———————————————
    You mean like, “Nova and Nunez weren’t “deal-breakers” to Cashman in the Lee trade???

    This board has as many Kool-Aid guzzling cheerleaders as any
    ________________________
    Sure there are some who flap with the wind, and simply cheerlead, but there are many others who question and debate everything. You can cherry pick who you want to debate with…

  57. Against All Odds April 15th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    # gumbyandpokey April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Better off to move the young guys and get proven talent, imo.

    ———————————–

    just like they used to do yrs ago with Johnson and Brown

  58. West Coast Yankee Fan April 15th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    “One has to come here with there A game arguments.”

    But obviously not their A game spelling.

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I totally believe the Jays will get out of this.

  60. Tom in N.J. April 15th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    “mumble, cretins, mumble”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ymeuOz0hZU

    RIP Joey Ramone. 10 years ago today…

  61. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
    Rich in NJ April 15th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
    “All thanks to the fine work of Brian Cashman.”

    Exactly. He has assembled sufficient young talent to be able to develop young pitchers.
    ——————————————————
    The next significant pitcher this organization will develop under Cashman will be the FIRST.

    Of course, he’s only been the GM for about 15 years.
    _______________
    When you make comments like that, you really do a disservice to your credibility. Chien Ming Wang was a 2 time 19 game winner and Cy Young candidate…Phil Hughes was an 18 game winner and All Star at 24, and Joba had some of the best peripherals of any reliever in 2010 and is again dominant in 2011.

    Your arguments show a lazy thinking process. You need to verify your points and arguments before stating them.

    I give you this feedback since it may help your readership and blog…not to ridicule you.

  62. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Geeze Louise. Well there’s the one run I always love the Sux to lose by…

  63. pat April 15th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Sox making it interesting.

  64. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Cool beans.

  65. blake April 15th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Jays bullpen trying their best to blow it.

  66. Betsy April 15th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    What are you going to do – just a bad game; move on

  67. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    …CONSEQUENTLY, Cashman had to change the team strategy from signing FAs to developing from within.

    That was a brilliant move by Cashman.
    ———————————–
    Right! Like that 2009 World Championship team Cashman “built from within.”

    Do you even listen to yourself???

  68. raymagnetic April 15th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Can Nova make 10 MLB starts at least before people start calling for his head and saying he isnt’ improving?

  69. raymagnetic April 15th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    “Right! Like that 2009 World Championship team Cashman “built from within.”

    Do you even listen to yourself???”

    Idiot. Do you even know how many homegrown players were on that team?

  70. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Can people just stop it with the “Phil Hughes is an 18-game winner” crap already???

    Legit baseball fans, including most on this board, recognize how ridiculous won/loss record is for a pitcher (see Felix Hernandez last year).

    Phil Hughes SUCKED after his first six starts last year… Could not put away ANYBODY, short outings, 4.98 ERA in a year when ERA’s overall took a HUGE drop thanks to the PED policies.

    Phil Hughes won 18 games last year for ONE REASON… He got better run support than ANY STARTER IN BASEBALL.

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    “Jays bullpen trying their best to blow it.”

    Hopefully they don’t succeed!

  72. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    raymagnetic April 15th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
    “Right! Like that 2009 World Championship team Cashman “built from within.”

    Do you even listen to yourself???”

    Idiot. Do you even know how many homegrown players were on that team?
    ———————————————————–
    Yes I do… And the LARGE majority of them were developed long before Cashman was the GM of the Yankees

  73. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Normy–

    If you really followed the history of Cashman–which I would expect you to do if you wanted to make a detailed criticism–you would know that he took over operations of player development in 2005, and knew he had to develop a pipeline of players. He discussed his strategy of acquiring FAs as a way to buy time to bridge the present to the future prospects. CC and AJ were keys to allow the young pitchers time to develop. Tex was picked up to keep him away from Sux (hehehe) and because no other bat would be available in the following year. The rest of the team was basically developed from within.

    You need to be on top of the timeline and actual facts in order to make credible criticisms. The way you currently do it makes your comments seem ill-informed and stupid.

    Do your research.

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    “Can Nova make 10 MLB starts at least before people start calling for his head and saying he isnt’ improving?”

    You betcha!

  75. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Can everyone please stop acknowledging Yankeesnmore’s existence???

    J

  76. SAS April 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Trisha,

    I sent you a brief email

  77. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    If you really followed the history of Cashman you would know that he took over operations of player development in 2005.
    ———————————————————
    It’s 2011. Where are all the pitchers???

  78. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    agree wtih LGY

    it’s embarrassing. he comes here to annoy and if he gets to you, it’s your own fault.

    he is winning. people who engage him are losing.

  79. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Normy–

    If you follow hti sblog, you would know that I am just lukewarm about Hughes. I view him as a solid #3 pitcher on this staff. However, a 24 year old winning 18 games and showing he can handle the pressure of playing in NY is credible as far as developing a young pitcher.

    I didn’t even mention the development of Kennedy and Coke as players that came up under Cashman.

    Again, look at making credible arguments with all the facts.

  80. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    SAS – currently in beantown watching them lose – if you know what I mean!

    Will check it as soon as the game is over.

    :)

  81. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
    Can everyone please stop acknowledging Yankeesnmore’s existence???
    ————–
    No…Sorry, but if he is willing to have a respectful discussion, I am willing to talk to him. You all can scroll by him and me if you wish. But I would very much like him to raise his game here and contribute to the back and forth. If he has negative comments, make them well phrased and thought through. I can find that interesting.

    I hope to point out ways to help him do that.

  82. GreenBeret7 April 15th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Pendleton’s debut was a pleasant surpeise. he was able to do that in the minors, but, I didn’t think he could keep Texas off of his pitches like that. Congrats to him. Don’t know if can do that consistantly, but, if he does, he’ll help a lot. He’s never been a hard thrower, so he’s spent his career refining his off-speed pitches and his location is really good. Not sure what happened in ST, but, maybe he can help against the lefty hitters.

  83. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    BOJO, people lean on 18 wins because there is nothing else to lean on with Hughes.

    Best-in-the-game run support. something like EIGHT RUNS A GAME! There is no telling how many guys would have won 18 games with that run support last year.

  84. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
    If you really followed the history of Cashman you would know that he took over operations of player development in 2005.
    ———————————————————
    It’s 2011. Where are all the pitchers???
    _________________
    Hughes will get past his dead arm
    Nova is starting and should do well once the weahter warms up
    DRob is a strong contributor
    Joba is again dominant in the pen
    Noesi and Pendletonare up to contribute.

    The AAA staff and Trenton staff are pack with good arms rady to come up in a year or 2.

    Pitchers take time to develop, buit scouts agree that the Yankee pipeline is deep.

  85. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Bojo

    You can’t honestly think he is capable of that. He is here for one reason as BD pointed out and people continue to feed him.

    It destroys the discussion here.

  86. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Here’s where the rubber meets the road.

    COME ON RAUSCH!

  87. Against All Odds April 15th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    # YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    If you really followed the history of Cashman you would know that he took over operations of player development in 2005.
    ———————————————————
    It’s 2011. Where are all the pitchers???

    ——————————————————

    Developing from within takes time but I think I see where you’re coming from. No one expects Cashman to develop future HOF pitchers on the first go around but things haven’t gone well. Yes Hughes and Joba are contributing to and maybe all they will be is a 3 starter and 7th inning guy but the expectations were so high that many fans aren’t satisfied.

  88. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    BOJO, people lean on 18 wins because there is nothing else to lean on with Hughes.

    Best-in-the-game run support. something like EIGHT RUNS A GAME! There is no telling how many guys would have won 18 games with that run support last year.
    _______________
    I understand what you are saying about Hughes, which is why I don’t see him as an ace. But what I do see is a good young arm who has a lively fastball that can set up other pitches. Once he gets his cutter, slutter, curve and change working again, I see him as a Mike Mussina type close–who should be able to be a solid contributor to the staff.

    I definitely see potential there…but understand that young pitchers take time to develop. Once you acknowledge that, you will gain credibility in your arguments.

  89. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Rauch will earn his paycheck here

  90. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Kennedy is where he belongs… The National League.

    In 2008, Cashman judged Hughes and Kennedy ready for the majors. How’d that work out?

    Then, after the team he built crapped out and missed the playoffs, his @$$ was in a crack, so he opened up the check book for CC and AJ, and then begged for more to get Tex.

    They won the World Series and Cashman got some breathing room.

    Now he’s back to trying to convince everybody how smart he is and how he can do it with the farm system… Hughes is crapping out again, and Nova averages 5 innings a start.

    And if you think this is bad??? Wait until Cashman starts showing off the second string… Guys like Warren are going to get DESTROYED if they’re asked to pitch in this division.

  91. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Crawford looks completely LOST

    awful awful

  92. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Wow. Poor Carl. He is getting booed roundly by those a-holes.

  93. Bronx Jeers April 15th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Can Nova make 10 MLB starts at least before people start calling for his head and saying he isnt’ improving?

    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    Actually….tonight was Nova’s 10th MLB start.

    Just sayin

  94. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Crawford 0-5 down to .137

    struck out on 3 pitches last AB

  95. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    LGY–

    I think his comments are flawed only because he needs to improve his process for formulating opinions. He needs to consider context and historical fact. These can be learned. If he adds his passion to a good process, he could be a valuable contributor–even if his POV is negative.

  96. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Rausch did a really good job for Minny last season.

  97. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    One

    more

    out

  98. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Can “MVP” Gonzalez pull a Posada?

    odds are against it….

  99. Against All Odds April 15th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Blue Jays win!!!!

  100. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    My FAVORITE kind of Sux loss.

    They come all the way back to get within one run.

    AND THEY LOSE!!!!!

    Enjoy it RSN.

    :D

    2 and freakin’ 10!!!!!!

  101. LGY April 15th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    He is a self admitted lunatic.

    You would think by now lohudders would learn to stop engaging people who freely admit they are nutbags.

  102. raymagnetic April 15th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    “Actually….tonight was Nova’s 10th MLB start.

    Just sayin”

    :shock:

  103. West Coast Yankee Fan April 15th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    2-10! I love it. Suicide lines at the Charles again tonight. Step – step – splash!

  104. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Bojo,

    YankeesNMore is here strictly to annoy people. that, for anyone with a brain, is crystal clear.

    you can of course engage him and post whatever you want to whoever you want.

    but i truly hope you don’t think you’ll have even the slightest chance of “getting through” to him or changing his mind on anything.

    i’d hope that actual Yankee fans would be smart enough to ignore the trolls because they come here strictly to rile people up.

  105. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Buchol – sucks

    Lackey – sucks

    DiceK – sucks

    Lester – probably good

    Beckett – inconclusive

    :) :) :)

  106. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Hughes will get past his dead arm
    Nova is starting and should do well once the weahter warms up
    DRob is a strong contributor
    Joba is again dominant in the pen
    Noesi and Pendletonare up to contribute.
    ——————————————————–
    So six years later, and the best defense you have for Cashman is a guy who continues to fall flat on his face, but who you THINK will do better…

    Another guy who sucks right now, but who you THINK will do better…

    A couple of middle relievers and some magic beans who have done NOTHING.

    That’s it???

    Six years later and the best defense you have for Cashman is a few “I expect them to improves”????

  107. blake April 15th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Patience is gonna run thin in beantown if Crawford doesn’t start hitting.

  108. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    I really need to watch the NESN postgame.

    Meanwhile, I wouldn’t want to meet Rausch in a dark alley. He looks pretty intense!

    Peter Gammons does the postgame with Tom Curran. Each night he looks more and more like he is in need of an oxygen tank. At this point he can barely speak!

  109. GreenBeret7 April 15th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
    Bojo,

    YankeesNMore is here strictly to annoy people. that, for anyone with a brain, is crystal clear.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    He trolled every ESPN sports board they have, including NASCAR, tennis and golf. Who the Hell trolls a golf board?

  110. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    And the MVP hits a weak grounder to end the game.

    :)

  111. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    blake – this is what I’m talking about!

    They just continue to Sux. And it’s getting late early.

    :)

  112. GreenBeret7 April 15th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Berkman with two homers tonight and 6 on the year with 13 RBI in 14 games.

  113. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    And by the way. Seriously look at the track record of all of the players the Sux give early extensions.

  114. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
    _______________
    That was a good post. You are starting to back up comments with background logic.

    But regardless of whether kennedy belongs in the NL or not, he was a good prospect developed in the system, and probably could have been a #4 type starter here and done okay. With the run support he would get here, he may have been a 15 game winner. That has value.

    As for your other comments, Cshman was in the position of having to transform a team built on signing old over-the-hill FAs into a contender. He did this well by getting rid of bad wood and bringing in the players who won the WC. Saying he just bought the title is not really a good comment, as many teams have proven in the past that you just can’t buy a title. I’m sure you and I could both name 20 teams that tried and failed.

    No–Cashman had to assemble a team that would get through the several rounds of paly-offs, and perform well under pressure in NYC. And he did–and consequently deserves tons of credit.

    He did this while transforming the player development process entirely…away from picking safe college picks towards taking high risk high rewards players and internatioinal signings.

    Consequently, he has a tema which won the WS in 2009, missed geting to the WS in 2010 by a team hitting slump, and is strongly positioned in 2011 to make another run…He has a great roster, and many chips to use to acquire needed pieces later.

  115. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Oh my God I can just imagine what it would be like here if the Yankees were 2 and 10. There’s a part of me that hopes that Yankee fans are trolling all of the Sux forums, the way those banshee fans would be trolling us if the Yankees had a 2 and 10 record! Cripes they do it with the Yanks in first place. Imagine what they’d do with us in last!

  116. pat April 15th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    “Berkman with two homers tonight and 6 on the year with 13 RBI in 14 games.”

    K. Long effect. :wink:

  117. Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Oswalt gets hurt and leaves the game. Pen costs him the win and a chance for a save for me. Weaver’s game about to be blown. Hell of day in fantasy for me

  118. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
    ________________
    No the best defense is that he won a WS, got us to within spitting distance of a second WS, and has fielded a very strong team for 2011.

    The only thing you are really presenting as arguments are loud accusations that are incomplete and ill-informed. You can’t claim he just bought a WS title when others have failed at the same tactic…You can’t brush aside the team’s performance in 2010, nor their current competitive capability.

    If you want to criticie, you have to begin by acknowledging the truth of the above, and then point to where he could do better with current info…no Monday morning quarterbacking. Start by taking a stance on what you think he should do going forward and defend your position…Then you ‘ll have some credibility when and if your predictions come to pass.

  119. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    LGY – still think Crawford belongs at the top of the lineup?

  120. GreenBeret7 April 15th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    pat April 15th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
    “Berkman with two homers tonight and 6 on the year with 13 RBI in 14 games.”

    K. Long effect.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Could be. It’s the same swing he had in the playoffs..and he’s healthy. All of it left handed. in 7 at bats, syill no hits

  121. kd April 15th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    2-10. wow just wow.

    they have serious work to do.

    we have some fine tuning. yes, phil is a mess, but it’s a 5 to 10 percent solution. not like dice-k who is not a ml pitcher now.

    it’s sad their only two wins are against us

  122. Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    trisha,

    Crawford has always said he hated batting lead off and the numbers prove it. He should be batting second with Pedroia leading off

  123. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    BOJO, I keep hearing about how Cashman has “transformed the system.”

    Based on what??? Baseball America rankings???

    Baseball America had our system ranked top-5 and “transformed” with tons of good pitchers serveral years ago, too…

    Yet somehow, this offseason, we had to go sign Garcia, Colon AND Millwood because we have no starters.

  124. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Boston Red Laughing Stox

    2-10 is a beautiful thing…

  125. YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
    ________________
    No the best defense is that he won a WS,
    ————————————————–
    With a check, not a “transformed farm system.”

  126. blake April 15th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Crawford should be hitting 7th or 8th against LHPing.

  127. JobaTipsHisCap April 15th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    “Nova hasn’t pitched out of the fifth in either of his past two starts”

    This is the more scary part, with Hughes = Dice-k.

    Rotation is a total mess.

  128. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Normy–

    As an example, I often take positions on where I would like to see the team go rather than criticize the past. In 2008< istrongly urged acquiring Zack Greinke before he resigned with KC. In 2009, I urged trading for Josh Hamilton when there were rumors of Texas discontent with him. I urged acquiring Josh Johnson (byt rading Phil huges) before he resigned. I urged signing Adrain Beltre and moving ARod to RF/DH. I urged playing Gardner and having him lead-off. This past year, I urged acquiring Gio Gonzales, and perhaps Carlos Beltran and Johan Santana at trading deadline.

    Many of these moves were just dreams–sure. But the fact that these players all went on to have great seasons allowed me to say there were things that could have been done differently, and point to results that had merit. That–in turn–would allow me to critique Cashman on for examples being too conservative in pursuing a potential second ace…

    I suggest you try the same approach.

  129. RMS April 15th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Getting back to the Yankees, (seems a lot of RS watchers), I think Nova will improve.

    And for someone who is old and chubby, Colon has great movement on his pitches and still throws in the low nineties. Am looking forward to his start.

  130. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
    BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
    YankeesNmore April 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
    ________________
    No the best defense is that he won a WS,
    ————————————————–
    With a check, not a “transformed farm system.”
    ______________
    That is a very poor argument. You can do better.

    Acknowledge that many teams have tried to buy titles but failed…Cashman put a TEAM together….not just 3 stars.

    I strongly suggest you deposit that argument in your trash shredder. It has zero credibility.

    I again am only saying this to give you feedback to help your style and blog…not to berate you. You’ll be more successful as a blog writer if your threads are well thought through and insightful, not full of meaningless and thoughtless drivel.

  131. Betsy April 15th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Sox lost? Sweet! I still don’t think they are close to being buried – esp. since the Yankees are off to an ok, not great start and the Rays are hot now.

  132. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Normy–

    Its bedtime for Bojo, so I can’t continue any further. I hope you find my comments helpful to your goal of being a profitable blog writer. Please take them in the spirit of helpfulness with which they were intended.

    Good night night people.

  133. Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    BoJo,

    Why do you bother engaging. He isn’t a Yankee fan

  134. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Definitely agree that the elf should be leading off.

    “it’s sad their only two wins are against us”

    kd, you know, if Phil hadn’t been terrible, we scored more than enough to win that game. And you know how Beckett had adrenaline running when he pitched against us Sunday night. He was almost otherwordly. Life happened. But we’re in first and they’re in last. So I don’t think there’s anyone chest thumping going on in beantown because they took the series against us.

    They are in BIG trouble. BIG.

    :)

    “2-10 is a beautiful thing…”

    A BEAUTIFUL thing!

    “Rotation is a total mess.”

    And yet the Yankees are in first place in the AL East. Hell of a place America is!

  135. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Betsy, I think we’ll do our disagree thing again.

    :)

    The Sux are buried.

  136. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    If the postseason were decided today, I’m thinking the Sux wouldn’t be the wild card.

    :D :D :D

  137. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Last comment to LGY and BD–

    Unlike the other trolls, Normy has a motivation–to run a profitable blog with readers. Helping him frame his arguments better to build readership is a strong carrot that should motivate him. I can say this with some certainty based on how quickly he improved his blog design based on feedback from others here.

    Helping him frame his arguments helps him and helps this blog by having comments that are thoughtful and provoking. I truly think he is open to it. It’s money in his pocket.

  138. trisha - true pinstriped blue April 15th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Well night all! Looking forward to seeing the Chief on the mound tomorrow!

    :)

  139. MTU April 15th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    The Sux theme song:

    “You load sixteen tons, what do you get
    Another day older and deeper in debt
    Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
    I owe my soul to the company store”

    Night everybody.

    :)

  140. Vineyard Yankee April 15th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    # BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    ‘If the Yankees keep playing like this in the ninth, they could have more come from behinds this year than John Holmes’.

    =================

    Wow, another one of your sick, not funny sexual innuendos George. I believe there is therapy for perverts like you. Seek professional help, sicko.

  141. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    The way things are going, for the first time in history, Gammons might not be grossly overrating the Sox first round draft pick.

    I mean, the #1 overall pick is usually pretty good, right? :)

  142. Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Vineyard Yankee,

    I thought it was pretty funny

  143. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    I keep getting pulled back!

    Triple–

    I don’t think it is a requirement to be a Yankee fan to be a good contributor to the discussion. On the private discusison board we set up last year, we had a very big Red Sox fan. He and a Rays fan were also on the Daily News board.

    They offered excellent and thought provoking comments that stirred conversations. They did it in a fun and respectful manner, and everyone enjoyed their participation.

    If Normy is open to suggestions as to how to improve his craft (which i think he is), he too can become a strong contributor here. If it doesn’t pan out in 60 days, I have his IP address and will have him killed.

  144. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    Bojo,

    we can agree to disagree. No offense, but I think you are delusional on this one.

    I’m pretty sure you’re the only one on this blog that doesn’t see YNM for what he is. A nuisance who adds literally nothing to the blog.

    You can continue to chat with him, it’s your right.

    but your responses to him only further add to that nuisance and it creates more negativity in here that most of us don’t need.

  145. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Vinny–

    I realize you are not intelligent enough to understand my humor, and thus I don’t worry about you not getting it. I don’t write for morons.

  146. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    BD–That’s fine. I don’t intend to make him my pupil. If he wants to improve, he is smart enough to make the changes quickly. We will see very soon whether he just wants to aggravate people or if he is really interested in hosting a good blog that has readers interested in his POV.

  147. Betsy April 15th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    BD, I’m sorry to say I agree…………the guy pollutes the place

  148. Vineyard Yankee April 15th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle April 15th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Vineyard Yankee,

    I thought it was pretty funny.

    =======================

    Possibly to some but there is a long history and pattern of his sexual innuendos and homosexual bashing. IMO not the place for it here on a Baseball Blog where many women participate.

  149. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Again Vinny–no one cares about your opinion.

  150. BD (Boston Dave) April 15th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    fair enough Bojo.

    you’re entitled to spend the time to learn what the rest of us already know :)

    just make sure “very soon” is in fact, very soon!

  151. West Coast Yankee Fan April 15th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    YankeesNmore – why don’t you ask Blojo (aka Brads77) about these gems of his:

    brads77
    July 5, 2009 2:02 PM

    How many here would trade Cano for Aaron Hill ? I would.

    brads77
    July 9, 2009 7:56 PM

    When they Yankees sign Chapman, Brackman, Betances, and McAllister all become irrelevant…They keep Joba and Hughes. They give up Montero but his value decreases as a DH/RFer.

    brads77
    July 9, 2009 2:18 PM

    Joe Mauer will be picking up a $200M paycheck for 10 years from either Red Sox or Yankees.

    brads77
    July 9, 2009 7:13 PM

    Halladay-who owns a no-trade clause–apparently does not like hitting, and may eliminate the Phillies as a contender for his services.

  152. BoJo April 15th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Wow–

    Now Vinny takes the lead and when he gets slammed, John comes in and attacks. The hive thrives. Tow accounts…one half brain.

    BD et al–I have a lot of experience dealing with losers and trolls like John?WCYF and his Vinny persona…so take me at my word when I tell you that Normy is a kitten compared to that troll.

    Anyway, I really do have to get to sleep. I’m sorry to leave you now with what is certain to be 2-3 hours of whining, lying, and false accusations.

    But good-night.

  153. West Coast Yankee Fan April 15th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Sleep well Blojo. Your comments stand for all to see what a baseball illiterate you really are.

  154. Vineyard Yankee April 15th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Blojo / George / Brad / Dimwit:

    I understand your dumb, lame attempts at humor just fine. The bottom line is you are just an attention starved old fart who tries soooo very hard to garner attention to yourself and have others recognize you.

    As usual you are not funny and apparently have a severe mental issue with women as you continue with these ‘little puns’ that you think are funny. Grow up child you are just not funny.

  155. Jerkface April 16th, 2011 at 2:09 am

    I like that the guy who says he specifically doesn’t make predictions because he doesn’t know anything bashes people for predictions.

  156. West Coast Yankee Fan April 16th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Who would that be. Never mind, rhetorical question, no question mark needed. I know the game of baseball; unlike some who knows only how to read a book with statistics.

    As to that above. There is absurd — and there is absurd.

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