Game 13: Yankees vs. Rangers
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Apr 16, 2011 
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YANKEES (7-5)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Andruw Jones LF
Jorge Posada DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Gustavo Molina C
RHP Freddy Garcia (0-0, 9.00 ERA)
Garcia vs. Rangers
RANGERS (10-3)
Ian Kinsler 2B
Elvis Andrus SS
Michael Young DH
Adrian Beltre 3B
Nelson Cruz RF
David Murphy LF
Yorvit Torrealba C
Mitch Moreland 1B
Julio Borbon CF
LHP Derek Holland (2-0, 2.25)
Holland vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network
WEATHER: Cold, windy and rain is on the way. Let’s play two!
UMPIRES: HP Lance Barksdale, 1B Fieldin Culbreth, 2B Adrian Johnson, 3B Gary Cederstrom
TWIN KILLINGS: The six double plays that the Yankees grounded into on Friday night tied the all-time AL mark and set a franchise record. I also thought it was interesting that each of the first through sixth hitters in the lineup grounded into one apiece.
HOT ROD: Alex Rodriguez is on the AL leaderboard in almost every major category: Second in batting average, first in runs, tied fourth in home runs, first in OBP, and first in slugging percentage. He’s reached base in all 11 games in which he’s played this season.
BULLY PEN: Yankees relievers have held opponents to three earned runs over the last 20 innings pitched and have posted a combined 3.26 ERA this season.
UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: That’s Teixeira’s fifth of the season on a 3-2 pitch and it’s 2-0 Yankees. Nice for Freddy to get a lead to work with.
UPDATE, 1:25 p.m.: To steal a line from my buddy Anthony McCarron, Cano must still think it’s last night – he grounds into a DP to end the first at 2-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 1:38 p.m.: Nice weave out of trouble for Garcia, who put the first two men on in the second inning but worked out of it. Still 2-0.
UPDATE, 1:51 p.m.: Pretty nice dive by A-Rod there on Andrus. It’s interesting to see how many more balls he gets to with his hip healthy now.
UPDATE, 2:01 p.m.: Walk from Jeter, double from Swish and sac fly from Teixeira sends Freddy back to the mound with a 3-0 lead.
UPDATE, 2:34 p.m.: Good news? We’re through 4 1/2 innings and it’s an official game. Bad news? It’s still raining.
UPDATE, 3:08 p.m.: Joba does his job and now it’s on to Soriano in the three-man Yankee bullpen relay. The rain has let up a bit here now. Looks like we’ll get all nine in today.
UPDATE, 2:47 p.m.: Garcia has absolutely done his job and more – six shutout innings and Joba warming in the pen to start the Yankees relief train.
UPDATE, 3:22 p.m. Getting a little hairy here as Rafael Soriano is struggling. After a double, walk and two singles (the last an infield nubber by Michael Young), it’s 3-2 with two on and one out for the Rangers.
UPDATE, 3:25 p.m.: Wow, big escape for Soriano. Adrian Beltre missed a three-run home run by about five feet, then grounded into an inning-ending double play to let the Yankees off the hook. They’re clinging to a 3-2 lead with three outs left to get. Mariano up next.
UPDATE, 3:33 p.m.: Funny how this game works sometimes: Beltre’s ball just misses the foul pole and, minutes later, Cano bangs one off it to give the Yankees a 5-2 lead. Mo with a big cushion now.
I’m interested in seeing what Garcia is going to do this afternoon.
Alex Rodriguez is on the AL leaderboard in almost every major category
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TO me, he is going to be on the top 3 greatest Yankee players of all time….maybe top 2.
Radio is saying Moreland is DHing and Young playing 1B.
I’m organizing a boycott of the Harvest on Hudson restaurant.
Scroll over the ad to understand my reasoning.
“I also thought it was interesting that each of the first through sixth hitters in the lineup grounded into one apiece.”
More interesting is that after the 3rd or 4th GIDP, you would have though that they would have figured this was the TX plan and come up with an alternative approach.
# BoJo April 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Alex Rodriguez is on the AL leaderboard in almost every major category
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TO me, he is going to be on the top 3 greatest Yankee players of all time….maybe top 2.
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me too……just wonder when it’s time what will the HOF think about him, they seem to be drwaing a line here
Go yanks
Hopefully NY still grinds out ab’s against Holland. He has sketchy control, but in this weather it could be tough to stay patient.
# joeman April 16th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
# BoJo April 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Alex Rodriguez is on the AL leaderboard in almost every major category
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TO me, he is going to be on the top 3 greatest Yankee players of all time….maybe top 2.
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me too……just wonder when it’s time what will the HOF think about him, they seem to be drwaing a line here
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he’ll get in once someone who already is a HOF is exposed for being a roid user.
# Against All Odds April 16th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
# joeman April 16th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
# BoJo April 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Alex Rodriguez is on the AL leaderboard in almost every major category
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TO me, he is going to be on the top 3 greatest Yankee players of all time….maybe top 2.
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me too……just wonder when it’s time what will the HOF think about him, they seem to be drwaing a line here
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he’ll get in once someone who already is a HOF is exposed for being a roid user.
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it may take that and even then who knows
weather going to hold?
Joeman–
ARod won’t be eligible for 10 more years or so. IN that time, the whole PEDs issue should be old hat, with guys like Bonds in the HOF. I think he goes in 2nd year.
Against All Odds
he’ll get in once someone who already is a HOF is exposed for being a roid user.
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you have people in mind
Strange comment by Waldman about Garcia-
“The Yankees would certainly like to get some length out of him today, and they would like to get it…uh…before it rains.”
???
# joeman April 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Against All Odds
he’ll get in once someone who already is a HOF is exposed for being a roid user.
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you have people in mind
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no one in mind but once it happens there is nothing they will be able to do. They aren’t going to remove whoever the player is and doubt he would take himself out of the hall.
I know some ppl have suspected Ricky as being a person that might have used.
Just so this is out there.
I’m a card carrying member of the Freddy Garcia bandwagon.
The hof should be jackasses and put A-Rod in as a Ranger if he happens to make it.
Wait, Carl Crawford needs a day off? Didn’t he just have 2?
That’s not called “needing a day.” That’s called being benched.
Good start for Garcia.
Freddie is on my Fantasy Team. I have to love him. Here’s to a quality game for the guy. He deserves it after waiting all this time.
He’s pitching well so far, but I think he’s going to get hit hard later in the game. But that’s OK. We only need 5-6 innings of 3-4 run baseball from him.
He’s our Mike Mussina this year and if he can locate like he’s been doing so far, he can win 10-14 games with our offense.
He looks as if he’s throwing the ball with little to no effort and he’s got some good movement, keeping the hitters a little off balance.
Tex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah baby opp field
boom….great swing.
did that just barely crawl over. not watching just listening to the game?
Not that it matters. Yeah Tex
alex just isn’t swinging at bad pitches this year….
wtffffffffffffffffff
ugh cano
Been a long time since we’ve been BOLD here.
did that just barely crawl over.
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Maybe 3 rows back.
You can only hit into one DP per inning right?
UnKnown April 16th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
did that just barely crawl over. not watching just listening to the game?
Not that it matters. Yeah Tex
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Few rows back.
slash bold
Jo Jo reyes with a horrific performance against the Sox so far. Ugh.
I anybody wants to do a Freddie Garcia song parody, “Lady Madonna” seems like a good fit.
Just what we need.
Walks.
you can tell Garcia just does not have the necessary “stuff” to do well. what the heck has the yankees starting staff come to?
Garcia has to give them some length. His stuff has just diminished so much. Not a good start at all.
Murphy is a dangeroius hitter…this is a tough spot
Same, yanks are expected to give up 4-5 runs, so the offense has to talk
good fortune there….need a DP of our own here.
nice play by Jeter.
every time garcia pitches, fans will be holding their collective breath each inning. he looks so hittable, it’s just too nervewracking.
“Jo Jo reyes with a horrific performance against the Sox so far. Ugh.”
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what do you mean? he struck out two and got a groundout!
well, after letting the first 5 guys reach safely
Sox had bases loaded and nobody out – no extra runs
Way to battle.
phew
thats what garcia can do….he knows how to pitch.
Freddy looks like the Rock.
Yes, BD, thankfully Jason Varitek, Mike Cameron and Darnell McDonald comprise the bottom half of the Sox order:)
starting to rain…. get through 5 with the lead, just in case.
I see Freddy already has zero rope from some fans
Grandy smashing lefties.
Bold is back.
It’s incredibly windy on LI…………wonder how it is at the stadium
here is LGY’s moment…..mighty Molina is at the bat.
there’s an inning w/out a DP.
baby steps.
ha….. not exactly 1996 in Atlanta, but still nice.
Great range.
Arod doing it all.
A-Rod my man.
when healthy, A-Rod is still the best player in baseball
That was a great play by Alex…no way he makes that last year.
“when healthy, A-Rod is still the best player in baseball”
I agree.
Dr. Philippon for MVP.
I think Jeter can still be a very good hitter v. LHP.
“Dr. Philippon for MVP.”
lol…seriously.
Swish YAAAAAAAA!
Great baserunning.
(Most Valuable Physician)
Heads up by Swisher.
they need to keep this as the lineup against lefties and righties. jeter/swish better than gardner/jeter.
nice swing…nice baserunning…..Holland isn’t locating well at all…..need to make him pay this inning and get Freddy a big lead
ac1 April 16th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
they need to keep this as the lineup against lefties and righties. jeter/swish better than gardner/jeter.
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Agree
I’m not sure that Kay knows what deep means, but that works.
a run w/o a hr color me surprised
Great job Tex…and more good baserunning from Swish.
Pick him up, Robbie.
Terrific base running by Jeter and Swish
Hmm looks like someone forgot to close a bold tag
That pitch looked like it went around the plate..
Jed Lowrie = Sox MVP
In all due respect, Garcia is a pitcher, along with CC and Colon.
Hughes and Nova are learning how to pitch.
AJ is becoming a pitcher.
Nice breaking ball.
BD (Boston Dave) April 16th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Jed Lowrie = Sox MVP
I like him.
he’s keeping them off balance so far.
Garcia is pitching well…
Garcia rolling along.
The Rock is looking good today…
Telling the Rangers that is doesn’t matter what they think..
Toronto pitcher JoJo Reyes approaching 70 pitches through 1 2/3 innings
i don ‘t know how he’s doing it but keep doing it
Hey it might be smoke and mirrors but he’s changing speeds, changing eye levels, and keeping a very good lineup from squaring the ball up. Nice job so far.
meanwhile in boston, jo-jo reyes is above 60 pitches still in the 2nd.
Garcia is the people’s champ
Smart approach to hitting.
That might be Andrew’s best swing as a Yankee.
Carl April 16th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
BD (Boston Dave) April 16th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Jed Lowrie = Sox MVP
I like him.
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trust me if Lowrie is the Sox MVP this year they are in trouble
” gumbyandpokey April 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
you can tell Garcia just does not have the necessary “stuff” to do well. what the heck has the yankees starting staff come to?”
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at least so far – we have our “genius post” of the day
Does Jones smile at everything?
Jones is a happy fella.
perhaps jones is as stoned as Cano is lazy
Jones was born in the islands…
Mr. I smash Lefties is up.
i think Holland things Jones is flashing the signs.
Does Jones smile at everything?
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Yeah but is that a bad thing? I like players like him… shows they are having fun out there which is the whole point
permagrin
rain appears to be picking up…. just get through the next half inning.
Patrick April 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Does Jones smile at everything?
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Yeah but is that a bad thing? I like players like him… shows they are having fun out there which is the whole point
Didn’t say anything about it being bad, or him not having fun.
Just asked if he smiles at everything.
ac1,
yup – get through that inning and then they can slow it down. but hurry up until then…
He hit on the screws.
blake April 16th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Garcia is the people’s champ
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all we need now is a elbow drop and an eye brow raise
Poor Molina
man, Gustavo nearly put one in there….
They had that played right.
Need 3 outs.
oh Gustavo….
so close
all we need now is a elbow drop and an eye brow raise
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I vote for calling the 67 mph curve, “The People’s Curve”.
Man I thought Gusty had one.
“I vote for calling the 67 mph curve, “The People’s Curve”.”
come on freddy,
take is from cc, when it starts pouring, pitch faster, not slower.
blake April 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
“I vote for calling the 67 mph curve, “The People’s Curve”.”
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I like the sound of that
ac1 April 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
all we need now is a elbow drop and an eye brow raise
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I vote for calling the 67 mph curve, “The People’s Curve”.
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The most electrifying curve in baseball history
can someone please turn off the bold?
Where the %$^& was that?
wow, the umps really trying to cost Freddy a win here.
where was that
Way to navigate the wind, Swish.
Didn’t say anything about it being bad, or him not having fun.
Just asked if he smiles at everything.
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Sorry I was more commenting on people saying “oh he’s high all the time” which is kind of insulting
wow, swish can do it all.
Wow that was almost trouble. It’s nasty out there…
Lowrie hitting .526 for the 2-10 Sox
you can only hope to contain him – because you know you can contain everyne else
One out and it’s official–Nick wins the bet.
Garcia proving you don’t need 95 mph fastball to get outs.
Mad props to Garcia, he hasn’t pitched in a long time, this is his first start of the year and the weather is MISERABLE. Somehow he is locating well
“Sorry I was more commenting on people saying “oh he’s high all the time” which is kind of insulting”
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Patrick, I think I was the only one who said that and I was 100% kidding – even using the “Cano is lazy” analogy that some people still actually say.
and we have a game…
Pitchability.
Thank you, Freddy!!
“Hey it might be smoke and mirrors but he’s changing speeds, changing eye levels, and keeping a very good lineup from squaring the ball up. Nice job so far.”
More fun to watch when it’s done for us rather than to us.
Garcia for Cy
pat,
exactly
Good job by Garcia so far.
Any outs yet in the top of the 5th. Is my boy Freddie doing as well as it appears?
Hey it might be smoke and mirrors but he’s changing speeds, changing eye levels, and keeping a very good lineup from squaring the ball up.
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Which is why he is a Pitcher.
Why can’t Hughes and Nova learn to pitch?
I guess he is doing fine. I have to go out so……………go Yankees go!!!
“Why can’t Hughes and Nova learn to pitch?”
Freddy couldn’t do it at 24.
wow, jeter almost put one out.
Poor Jeter
Jeter has one xbh in 50 ABs this season.
stupid wind
Jeter has one xbh in 50 ABs this season.
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Without the heavy wind, that may have been gone, to the deepest part of the field.
Rich in NJ April 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“Why can’t Hughes and Nova learn to pitch?”
Freddy couldn’t do it at 24.
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Yup, a veteran pitcher versus young pitchers. That’s how it is. The good veterans stick around because they just know how to pitch.
Even Felix Hernandez needed time to develop at the major league level. He was just good enough to get up while he was very young.
“Jeter has one xbh in 50 ABs this season.”
They mostly have faced RH pitching.
Last season:
SLG
v. RHP: .317
v. LHP: .481
Hopefully Garcia has at least one more good inning in him. Since he hasn’t pitch in a while he might get tired soon.
That was a nasty pitch
I think the key to today’s performance is Molina catching
get 6 in, then JoSoMo
It seems like Robertson warms up everyday
there was the people’s curve
Patrick, I think I was the only one who said that and I was 100% kidding – even using the “Cano is lazy” analogy that some people still actually say.
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ok im still really tired, my brain isn’t working quickly today. no problem
A “washed-up bum” and a “never-was” catcher: hell of a battery, I’d say.
I think Garcia might be able to give us 7or 8 innings today. He has been very economical, and it isn’t like he is throwing with much effort.
We know what the hell Freddy Garcia is Michael Kay.
Garcia has been an artist out there.
Great job by Garcia. I am sure AJ can learn something watching him pitch.
unbelievable job by Garcia….every pitch is a different speed
Derek is a naturally gifted athlete. He was as consistent a hitter as one could find (pore through his #s before the last two yrs and you’ll see that his avg. was over .300 for every single month…mind-boggling consistency).
The “re-working” of his swing hasn’t produced the anticipated results. At this point, let him revert to what feels natural, and maybe he’ll find his groove again.
So much for ST results……………. thank you, thank you, thank you, Freddy!
What a shot in the arm by Freddy. Good job Chief!
Jeter really did connect on that pitch be hit deep…. I think he will slowly get back to somewhere where we stop talking complete regression. p(between last years .270 and his usual .300).
“The “re-working” of his swing hasn’t produced the anticipated results. At this point, let him revert to what feels natural, and maybe he’ll find his groove again.”
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he gave the “re-working” of his swing about 2 games before abandoning it.
Girardi will probably go batter to batter with Garcia in the 7th. If the Yanks score another run here then he can give him a longer leash.
What has made Jeter special for a ST was his ability to SLG as well as his AVG.
ST = SS
It seems like there are 50 of Andrus and Kinsler on the field
Also, we know Andrus has range. He’s 20 something. No reason to harp on it when he’s fielding a 50 hopper that Jeter could get to.
Garcia could have at least started the 7th. What did he do wrong?
I would go with AJ and Colon in Toronto.
Then CC, Freddy and AJ in Balt.
Then Colon and Nova vs Chi, in that order.
Garcia headed to clubhouse. Joba will be in.
Girardi manages by formula. I agree though, I would let Garcia start the 7th.
Quality Start #1 on the year for Freddy Garcia.
In the interest of safety, they should call this game now.
Eh I don’t have a problem with Garcia leaving the game, this is his first start of the year and it’s been a long time since he started a game
Unless Garcia threw a lot of pitches, and I doubt it, there is no reason whatsoever to take him out of the game………..
Jones lobbying for more PT
Rich in NJ April 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Girardi manages by formula. I agree though, I would let Garcia start the 7th.
Pitch well, you get a short leash.
Pitch bad, he’ll give ya an extra innning.
Speaking of the lack of importance of ST stats, Jones looks good so far. Unlike Winn, I had thought he might still have something left.
They probably don’t want to push Freddy too hard after such a long layoff.
If Girardi took him out he has a reason.
Too many people look at ST and just project the results into the regular season – they did it with Thames and also with Jones
84 pitches, yeah, it’s reasonable to take him out given his inactivity.
Jones lobbying for more PT
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This has become a strict platoon.
Love these hungry veterans winning jobs.
I am an hour south of new york and it’s POURING! Not much time left for this game.
Garcia is old and has had shoulder problems.
Let him build that arm back up cautiously.
He should be good for around 100 next time.
Betsy-
Garcia threw 84 pitches, 55 for strikes. His limit was probably set at 85 or so, the same Colon will be set at when he makes his first start.
Garcia has thrown 84 pitches and that is a lot considering it’s his first start of the season. It just stinks to take him out when he looked so good in the 6th. Hopefully Joba has his good stuff.
Big, big start by Freddy after Hughes and Nova burnt the pen…
“They probably don’t want to push Freddy too hard after such a long layoff.”
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Quite possibly.
I have no problem taking Garcia out there. He did his job – no need to push him after a 3 week layoff.
Garcia player of the game.
A solid quality start by Freddy Garcia. Never a thrower – always a pitcher. Props to Molina for calling a good game for Freddy.
Ah, back to normal.
YT, ok – thanks. Either way, Freddy came up huge when we needed him…….
Good move removing Alex for Chavez in this weather.
Joba is gonna seem like he’s throwing 100mph to texas after seeing Garcia.
I will be accepting applications to the Freddy Garcia bandwagon shortly after the game.
Damn Arod is out of the game. I hope it’s nothing serious.
A-Rod out?
Garcia and Colon were the butt of many Yankee haters’ jokes over the off-season.
Not quite so funny now.
Jeter still can pick um.
Now Chavez in playing 3rd- ARod out for???
“Garcia player of the game.”
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as long as the Yanks hold on for the W, that’s a no brainer
Garcia was better than anyone could have hoped.
FYI:
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....oss-sunday
Phil Hughes will begin his long-toss program on Sunday. He will throw another long-toss session on Monday and take a rest on Tuesday, according to Yankee pitching coach Larry Rothschild.
Rothschild, along with the rest of the Yankee hierarchy, hopes that the long-toss drills and arm-strengthening exercises will help Hughes develop some of the velocity that’s been missing through his first three starts this season.
Rothschild will watch Hughes’ arm speed during the long-toss drills. Hughes will throw the ball on a line rather than up in the air. He will also be throwing off of the mound but not until after a day of rest Tuesday, at the earliest.
“It’s just to try to change things. It’s to see if something connects,” Rothschild said.
Rothschild, like the rest of the Yankees, could not pinpoint the reason for Hughes’ lack of velocity.
He said it was not necessarily a “dead-arm” issue because Hughes hasn’t thrown at his normal velocity since reporting for spring training in mid-February.
“It’s been a long period of time,” Rothschild said of Hughes’ lack of velocity. “It’s more getting the arm strength back to where it should be. And it hasn’t been there all spring.”
A-Rod
Jobanating!
I love watching Joba pitch but every time I think about how he should be a starter
Damn Arod is out of the game. I hope it’s nothing serious.
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Its prolly nothing, weather related.
Everyone named Molina frames pitches well…
Sox game started at the same time and just finished the 4th inning.
Yanks game is really moving along. Thanks Freddy.
Sit down Cruz-that was a beautiful strike-3.
They should have a kinesiologist look at Hughes.
Just because he’s doing well as a reliever, though, doesn’t mean he should be a starter.
this home plate ump has been very good.
they are bad so often that you gotta give them credit when they do well.
It’s only a 3 run game. I doubt Girardi would just take Arod out for the weather.
Putting Freddy between CC and AJ will spin Orioles heads next weekend.
Rich, what is that? You yourself said, in any case, that you think Phil will be fine in a couple of weeks if he’s not hurt. Obviously we won’t be seeing him for awhile………
“Just because he’s doing well as a reliever, though, doesn’t mean he should be a starter.”
It doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be either.
Clutch, I agree…………trying not to think bad thoughts
Just because he’s doing well as a reliever, though, doesn’t mean he should be a starter.
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Obviously, what’s your point?
It’s only a 3 run game.
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Hey it’s JoSoMo time, game over…
Rich, we could go on forever – there’s no point. The Yankees have made their decision and you disagree. If Joba wants to be a starter badly enough, he’ll leave as a FA and then we’ll see how he does as a starter as I’m sure some team will take a chance
Betsy
A person who is skilled in the science of body movement. I’m just building on CB’s knetic chain posts.
Obviously we won’t be seeing him for awhile……
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At least a month, maybe more if Freddy and Colon stay hungry…
Joba dominating = Jobanating!!!
Nasty. Love Joba as a reliever.
I know this has been stated plenty of times, but with Joba like this, it’s almost not fair to the rest of the league that he is their 7th inning guy.
JoSoMo could end up being one of the best bullpen trios in modern history. *fingers crossed*
BD (Boston Dave) April 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
this home plate ump has been very good.
they are bad so often that you gotta give them credit when they do well.
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great point.
it was a tough call on pitch 7 to Cruz, and he nailed it:
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
1/3 of JoSoMo complete.
Is Molina Freddy’s personal catcher?
Man King Felix has been getting slapped around lately
Nice inning for Joba. His slider has been really, really good so far this season. Last year he wasn’t throwing it for a strike and batters would just take it but now he is.
Rich in NJ April 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
They should have a kinesiologist look at Hughes.
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Great idea–my wife used to see one…they can do wonders.
No guarantee Soriano comes back next season and Joba will be the 8th inng guy.
Kate Smith still has a powerful voice!
Ok, Rich -thanks! I still don’t get what CB is saying and I don’t feel like reading reams of articles on the web about a topic I don’t understand. The one thing I take from CB’s comments is that Phil has a dead arm and because of the dead arm (and that’s actually Phil’s term – his arm apparently is completely lifeless), it’s throwing each part of his delivery off. If one thing is off, that affects another affects another…………..Is that the idea?
Kate Smith still has a powerful voice!
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Even from the grave!
hardwired,
thanks for the link – looked like he got it right but that proves it.
BD, way, way too early to say that
“No guarantee Soriano comes back next season”
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I’d be shocked if he comes back next season.
Find me some top Boras clients who could have opted out and didn’t.
Hughes’ mechanics are a mess, it’s not necessarily “dead arm”
Just a thought, but maybe this long toss program pushes Phil to pitch 94-95 on the fb come summer?
Joba worked hard to improve and it’s really paying dividends……nice to see.
Obviously we won’t be seeing him for awhile……
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Phil could be back for Nova, in due time.
Joba is lookin very good these days.
Betsy,
way too early to say they “could end up being” ?
of course it’s too early to say it, but there’s no reason they can’t and it’s really up to Joba. If he stays this good, I think Soriano and Mo have proven what they can do.
Joba missed his spot on that slider Torrealba struck out on.
The pitch was up in the zone.
It did not even have particularly good bite to it. It actually hung a bit.
But despite all those negatives it was a devastating pitch due to the arm speed he threw it with.
Torrealba whiffed on the pitch because he was so far out in front. Joba threw the ball with the same arm speed he throws his slider with and Torrealba couldn’t pick up the pitch or stay back.
And that really comes from the interdependence of the slider and fastball. Establishing his fastball and making the hitter respect it and have to protect against it is what allowed Joba to throw a poor slider and still get a strike out with it.
Last season – that pitch gets hammered.
’d be shocked if he comes back next season.
Find me some top Boras clients who could have opted out and didn’t.
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Arod?
I’d be shocked if he comes back next season.
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He could be back. Nobody paid him this season, who will next?
Not dead arm like you normally see in spring, but actually a dead arm. Phil has said that his arm has absolutely nothing – it’s just like a useless apendage at this point in terms of pitching. I don’t know what Verlander said about his arm when he was struggling, but I don’t recall it being this bad.
Poor Molina again
Rich-
John Smoltz saw a sports psychologist early in his career with the Braves.
Jack Llewellyn became a famous baseball shrink by getting credit for turning around a young John Smoltz. The pitcher started the 1991 season 2-11; after working with Llewellyn, he went 12-2.
Not dead arm like you normally see in spring, but actually a dead arm. Phil has said that his arm has absolutely nothing – it’s just like a useless apendage at this point in terms of pitching. I don’t know what Verlander said about his arm when he was struggling, but I don’t recall it being this bad.
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Yet he still can throw 91 at times. I think you are mistaken
Betsy April 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Joba worked hard to improve and it’s really paying dividends…
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As have you Betsy
The Yanks just seem really puzzled as to what’s going on with Phil. It’s not like they can pinpoint when everything went wrong – he was like this from beginning of ST
BD, I wouldn’t mind making these games 6 inning games – 1996 was pretty cool that way. You were dead in the water against the Yanks if you didn’t have a lead
Patrick, go speak to Phil then as he’s the one who said that about his arm
“I’d be shocked if he comes back next season.
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He could be back. Nobody paid him this season, who will next?”
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Like I said, find me some top Boras clients who didn’t opt out when they could have.
Yes he could stay – but I’d be surprised. That’s all.
These guys can’t wait to get this game over with.
Like last night it is as cold as hell out there.
It seems like Hughes won’t be back for a while. He first has to build up his arm and then pitch in AAA games and get his arm back up to 100 pitches.
Betsy,
I never saw a quote of him saying his arm is completely useless and without life. How can you have a “dead” arm anyways, shouldn’t it be decaying or something?
Phil Hughes – Zombie Arm
I’m not assuming the worst with Soriano; with Mo done after next year, which he’s said, he could assume the closers role here if he sits tight. He will also have opportunities to close in the next couple of years.
Yes he could stay – but I’d be surprised. That’s all.
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He’ll go if some team pays him more and they won’t.
Patrick, he said something exactly like that, but if you are skeptical of that, no problem.
It seems like Hughes won’t be back for a while. He first has to build up his arm and then pitch in AAA games and get his arm back up to 100 pitches.
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After the All Star break.
unfortunately, Beckett is following up his dominant performance against hte Yanks with another one at home vs Toronto.
Jays are still in the game down 4-1 but Beckett looks good (not quite as good as against NY but still)
Where’s all the folks who insisted Derek Jeter’s “pride” (or some such nonsense) would be enough to have him bounce back to being a .300 hitter after hitting the wall at age 36???
This guy is one of the worst offensive players in the game today…. And owe him $56 million!
I wish we had a little color on why Al is out. Could enjoy the last 6 outs a little more.
“He’ll go if some team pays him more and they won’t.”
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I’m pretty sure you have to opt out before you can find out if some team will pay you more.
Patrick, he said something exactly like that, but if you are skeptical of that, no problem.
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I listened to all of his interviews and I’m pretty sure you are exaggerating
Mo looks like he could pitch until he’s 50. I wish.
Come on Soriano…
If Soriano opts out he’ll possiblly competing with:
Shutdown relievers Heath Bell, Jonathan Broxton, Matt Capps, Francisco Cordero, Ryan Franklin, Brad Lidge, Joe Nathan, Jonathan Papelbon, Jon Rauch, Francisco Rodriguez, Koji Uehara and Jose Valverde could all hit free agency next offseason in what would be the most impressive relief class in recent memory.
I’m pretty sure you have to opt out before you can find out if some team will pay you more.
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Exactly. What’s your point?
BD, that sucks
Good try by Tex…He almost had that
Wow, just noticed that Soriano has a 7.71 ERA still
The Yankees didnt screw up as bad as everyone says with the opt out clauses. As Yankee Trader pointed out, the FA class is absurdly deep.
No zip on Soriano’s FB lately.
No zip on Soriano’s FB lately.
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It’s still Winter.
Soriano only throwing 92mph
mick,
I made my point pretty clear. sorry if it’s still eluding you.
I know you made a really bold statement saying “he could be back.”
we can end this discussion until you’re ready to go out on another limb.
Soriano can opt out and get a raise from NYY, like Arod.
By the way if anyone cares, Beckett looks awesome again.
Here you go, Patrick……..
http://www.lohud.com/article/2.....60334/1108
“Something had to be done,” Hughes said. “The arm feels dead, just nothing coming out. I’ve got to get it right, so this will give me an opportunity to build up some arm strength without having to worry about my start in three days.”
I guess this game isn’t close enough for Soriano to focus his tiny brain on.
Soriano could be an issue
Betsy,
it does suck. Toronto’s lineup has plenty of holes but you have to give Beckett the benefit of the doubt right now. He’s pitched well…. hope it doesn’t last.
And the Yankees would still get draft picks for Soriano, since he’ll almost certainly be a type A FA.
mick,
I made my point pretty clear. sorry if it’s still eluding you.
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testy, testy.
I think a lot of people are a bit mistaken about Soriano’s velocity. Last year he averaged 92.9 on his fastball. He’s throwing 92 today but it’s cold and rainy, what do you expect?
A-rod has oblique and lower back stiffness.
oblique stiffness for Alex
Torrealaba was not hitting that slider even if he was not out in front.
Arod out with lower back and oblique stiffness…
Really?!
I think Girardi should get Robertson up…Soriano looks really bad..I wonder if he is struggling with not having the adrenaline of the 9th innning.
What is with all these oblique injuries?
Just stiffness.
Thank ya Jesus Montero.
Alex is out of the game with “lower back/obligue stiffness? WTH!!
oblique is the new black
Kinsler will try and steal 2nd.
A-Rod left with “stiffness” low back and oblique according to Kay.
BD, I’m not even going to concern myself with it actually. Had you not mentioned it, I wouldn’t have given a 2nd thought to the Sox – or Beckett or anyone else. I just don’t get the point of following them on a day to day basis – at least, it’s not something I’m interested in. I do know that it’s premature to bury the Sox – esp. as long as the Yankees have rotation woes. It’s not like we’re off to such a hot start.
Agreed Patrick.
Now he just needs to work on location.
Geez, are you kidding? Another freaking oblique?
How ironic is it that Chavez replaces a guy with low back stiffness?
Beckett’s velocity is better than last year. Why?
I think Girardi should get Robertson up…Soriano looks really bad..I wonder if he is struggling with not having the adrenaline of the 9th innning.
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Dude he’s been a closer for 2 years of his career, I think he can handle it
Oblaque…….
Not good on Arod. But I guess no tests is good news…
Soriano does not look comfortable or confident today.
Soriano needs optimum conditions.
Betsy,
oh i know. But I still (right or wrong) see the sox as the team the Yanks need to be most concerned with in the AL East.
If the idea is to have more wins than the next best team, it does make sense to keep an eye on your opponents. but it’s a long season…
BD, I’m not even going to concern myself with it actually. Had you not mentioned it, I wouldn’t have given a 2nd thought to the Sox – or Beckett or anyone else. I just don’t get the point of following them on a day to day basis – at least, it’s not something I’m interested in. I do know that it’s premature to bury the Sox – esp. as long as the Yankees have rotation woes. It’s not like we’re off to such a hot start.
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I follow Beckett b/c he’s on my fantasy team.
Soriano looks like he might be trouble…
Stiffness is okay, as long as it’s not an oblique strain
Looks like another blown game for Soriano.
Weather is clearly bothering So. He keeps blowing on his hands.
Still, it’s nice to have Chavez in there instead of a Ransom
Warm up Robertson
oh get Soriano out.
His shoulder is flying open.
Soriano is going to blow this game if Girardi doesn’t take him out. His fastball is garbage.
Really, Soriano?
# gumbyandpokey April 16th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Beckett’s velocity is better than last year. Why?
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because he plays for a team that is 2-10 and often times guys on teams that are that bad try and throw harder to impress guys they find cute.
Girardi better not stay with him if another guy gets on.
Young will get a hit
Don’t get me wrong, Patrick. I was one of the rare ones who was all for the Soriano signing.
I just remember him as a mid-90′s beast from a few yrs back. That’s the guy I hoped the Yanks were signing. He was more effective w/the electric FB.
I think Mo should come in now.
what luck….
see?
Patrick, I don’t care if anyone else follows him – you’ve ever right to do so even if he wasn’t on your fantasy team. I was just making a point to BD that even though it sucks if he’s back, it’s not something I’m going to spend time worrying about.
Can Soriano suck any worse?
this would be a killer loss
Girardi has cost the team 2-3 games already this season.
if he makes it 3-4 its gonna be tough.
Why isn’t Girardi taking him out? This is ridiculous. Girardi is a terrible manager
Unreal…
8th inning guy! He’s the 8th inning guy! He must get every out in the 8th.
Just hilarious man.
Ok, this is a 3-2 game now
What the hell
Soriano is brutal. What a bad signing.
Soriano does not look comfortable or confident today.
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Totally agree. If Soriano doesn’t live up to his billing[getting booed now], the Yankees will hope he opts out!!
Hey Joe, how about getting somebody up?
mo isnt up, this game is on Soriano
and its too cold for him…
Thank goodness for Girardi’s formula – if you’re a Rangers fan, that is.
The Yankees could have has Jaquoin Benoit as the 8th inning man for half of Soriano’s price.
Soriano might be a dreadful signing
Here comes the 3 run bomb and the boo birds.
With whom is Girardi going to replace Soriano?
Mariano?
c’mon
Lets trade Soriano to the Phillies.
Girardi was awful in 2009, he was worse last year and it looks like he’s stepping up the terribleness even more in 2011. This will be the third game he’s given away, and it’s only just april. Thanks joe
BD, for me, keeping an eye on them, sure, but only in general. What they do on a day to day/game to game basis isn’t really anything that interests me……..more concerned with the Yanks (not saying that you aren’t)
Maybe Soriano isn’t used to the cold weather…he played in Atlanta for years and then Tampa Bay
Robertson up.
Too cold? Poor Soriano. Somehow Freddy and Joba made it through the weather.
Dont worry. We got this stiff for another 2 yrs
God, he’s just spinning breaking balls…
Don’t throw high fastballs to Beltre…
beltre just waiting for his pitch a fastball
I think Soriano will be great this season and it’s just a matter of time.
But there is no point in leaving him out there to lose games until he is.
Nice pickoff move.
Girardi is going way too long with Soriano. He has nothing…
Beltre going yard with this soft crap…get him out Joe b4 you are losing
Lucky!
Good thing Soriano only needed to throw one time in ST.
Definitely looks ready for the season.
Take him out, now.
just about to write 3 run jack coming up
I hope that was the 3 run bomb i was calling for.
Jeebsus h……
I’d pull him. Now.
Homer-just missed.
Patrick, did you see the quote?
I don’t think Joe trusts Robertson
look at Soriano’s face. he is not into this game.
Soriano better be careful with Beltre or he will hit the ball fair 900 feet
If Soriano doesn’t strike out Beltre, I’m driving to the Stadium to choke him to death
Need a K.
Another hanger…
BD, you’re kidding, right?
Flirting with disaster.
Phew.
Lucked out.
Whew!!!
DP!!!! WHEW!!
Soriano’s got to get his head out of his you know where.
Thank God for that…
Man that was lucky. Insurance, please.
lucky
Better then a K.
Wow, Soriano got so lucky in that AB. All his pitches to Beltre were up and right down the middle
Ok thank God
Honestly, I would’ve exploded if we blew another scoreless start
we don’t get many of those
83 mph hangers will not get the job done.
Thank goodness for the DP.
Soriano headed to the showers and a quick exit??
wow – lucked out there. Beltre just missed hammering a couple bad pitches.
I’ll take it.
Beltre kept waiting for the fastball that never came.
I have no idea why he leaves pitchers in that just don’t have it…………..He’d rather lose a game?
how long until soriano is the 7th inning guy and joba is 8th inning
Patrick, did you see the quote?
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Where?
We did a little more than flirt with disaster there rich……..our flirting was more like paid escort flirting than high school library flirting.
Just what they need – an “eight inning guy” with an ERA of 9.53 and an attitude.
Soriano had terrible body language in that inning
Can Soriano opt out after April?
That half-inning sucked. But I got a laugh out of it because mlb.com gameday had Beltre batting from the left side. I wasn’t watching the game but I’m assuming Beltre didn’t suddenly bat lefty. If he did, that’s pretty pathetic that Soriano need 8 pitches to get him out.
He’s our eigth inning guy.
I guess I’m not surprised about people complaining about Girardi again. Many of you folks don’t really do a lot of thinking, do you?
I can see Soriano really becoming a fan favorite in NY, haha.
I have no idea why he leaves pitchers in that just don’t have it…………..He’d rather lose a game?
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Well you see, Soriano is our Eighth Inning Guy and therefore, he must pitch the eighth inning.
Holland is in the 8th and he’s only at 100 pitches?
Eighth, that is.
I don’t think Joe trusts Robertson
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No, he just trusts the guy they paid a bagillion dollars to pitch the 8th inning too much.
This is why you don’t overrule your GM. Soriano was a terrible signing and Cashman knew it.
http://www.lohud.com/article/2…..60334/1108
“Something had to be done,” Hughes said. “The arm feels dead, just nothing coming out. I’ve got to get it right, so this will give me an opportunity to build up some arm strength without having to worry about my start in three days.”
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Just so you know that I didn’t exaggerate.
wait, alex has an oblique injury now?
I guess I’m not surprised about people complaining about Girardi again. Many of you folks don’t really do a lot of thinking, do you?
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is what they call knee-jerk
How was he a terrible signing a few games into the season?
Agree with Radiokev……..throwing Girardi under the bus, not only today, but frequently, whenever players dont perform is shortsighted.
If Soriano doesn’t strike out Beltre, I’m driving to the Stadium to choke him to death.
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Matt- There’s already a line forming at the stadium to do just that. LMAO
He may be valuable for us this season. But no way he duplicates his Tampa numbers.
Whenever the Yanks score early and don’t tack on runs it always comes back to hurt them. They have to get better at scoring runs later in the game.
LGY, I have no problem with Joe trusting Soriano – but with any pitcher, no matter how good, if he doesn’t have it, he doesn’t have it. Joe needs to realize that it’s not a matter of trust to pull a good pitcher who’s struggling – it just means he’s not getting it done on that particular day
I thought Soriano was an awful signing when they did it and still stand by that. Wasn’t he calculated as only adding 1 win for the year?
Alex has reported stiffness lower back and oblique was the only info given out so far from Kay.
he stuck with soriano and he came through.
Did they say if A-Rod’s soreness was from the dive?
But RadioKev just insulted anyone who disagrees with him, that’s lovely
hope any back and side problem doesnt slow Alex down.
“Agree with Radiokev……..throwing Girardi under the bus, not only today, but frequently, whenever players dont perform is shortsighted.”
Radiokev wanted to warm up Roberston. So, if he’s warming, do you wait until the lead is gone to bring him in?
Straw, I think I’ll wait past a couple of weeks into the season before making any kind of judgement on him
If Soriano has a couple of more inning like that and Joba will be pitching in the 8th inning
Just so you know that I didn’t exaggerate.
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You can’t be serious?
“Not dead arm like you normally see in spring, but actually a dead arm. Phil has said that his arm has absolutely nothing – it’s just like a useless apendage at this point in terms of pitching.”
That’s not even close to what Phil said.
Anyways I really don’t give a crap, panic all you want.
No tests planned for Alex?
Clutch!
Cano!!!!
Go Cano!!! That is a big homerun!!!
There you go….
LOL I’m not panicking and you just don’t want to acknowledge you’re wrong. Anyway, go back to bemoaning Joba’s fate…….
Robby!!!!!
How was he a terrible signing a few games into the season?
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He was a terrible signing zero days into the season. He is ridiculously overpaid, those opt-outs mean it’s a no-win situation for the Yankees and they lose a 1st round pick in the best draft we’ve had in years. Now you can add on the fact that the guy can’t pitch.
Brilliant managing there!
No cheapie there.
Cano!!!!!
Kev, let’s suppose he gets one out there. Do you leave him in for 40 pitches?
So funny how everyone is down on Sori now.
I just dislike whiney baseball fans, that’s all. We cheer for the Yankees for crying out loud. I’ve got friends who are Mets fans that whine less.
Soriano who?
It’s Cano time!
LOL I’m not panicking and you just don’t want to acknowledge you’re wrong. Anyway, go back to bemoaning Joba’s fate…….
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Where does Phil say his arm is a “useless appendage”
Ca-Yes
Still no laser show, but that was awesome
Robbie Cano Dont You KNOW! WOOHOO for insurance runs!
Anyways this argument is completely pointless, Phil might have “dead arm” whatever that means, but his main problem is terrible mechanics
So you get to determine who’s whiney? Ok.
I just dislike whiney baseball fans, that’s all. We cheer for the Yankees for crying out loud. I’ve got friends who are Mets fans that whine less.
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That’s because they have given up.
“He is ridiculously overpaid, those opt-outs mean it’s a no-win situation for the Yankees and they lose a 1st round pick in the best draft we’ve had in years. ”
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while I do think Soriano will pitch very well for hte Yankees this season, it’s hard to argue that the opt-outs were wise. It really is a no-win situation as Patrick says.
best case scenario, Soriano pitches great this season, opts out, and the Yanks can try to resign him if they’re interested.
I’ll root for that for now.
turns out Soriano was just being a mensch: he wanted to make sure Mo got another save.
Give him a hit.
Not even 2 weeks into the season and Soriano has already had 2 games in which he hasn’t “had it” and nearly blown 3+ run leads?
That’s not what you pay $11 million for.
Rich in NJ April 16th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
“Agree with Radiokev……..throwing Girardi under the bus, not only today, but frequently, whenever players dont perform is shortsighted.”
Radiokev wanted to warm up Roberston. So, if he’s warming, do you wait until the lead is gone to bring him in?
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By no means did Soriano look good on the mound, of course you warm Robertson up. He’s the one remaining pitcher you can play because you really want to save Mo early in the season. You can’t just toss him into the game without warming him up.
If another hitter had got on base, then you yank Soriano. Girardi had to show a bit of faith there no matter what.
So you get to determine who’s whiney? Ok.
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Whiney is whiney.
Holland with a 94mph throw to 1st
Michael Young doing his best Giambi impression.
This would have been a good day for Hughes to have pitched.
My whine of choice is a merlot.
Too early to be saying Soriano sucks. He just didn’t have it today. Soriano has a good track record and it we’re only two weeks into the season. And please stop with the body language analysis.
And thank you Nolan Ryan for pushing your non-elite pitchers well past 100 pitches. Keep doing that please, thanks.
Girardi had to show a bit of faith there no matter what.
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If he’s trying to win the game I don’t see why he has to show faith in a guy that didn’t have it today.
I’m in the Boca Raton Apple store checking in a Gamecast while the wife shops…a long way from home in NY….now I feel I can leave the mall confident Mo holds a 3 run lead..PS Hit the beach in Palm Beach this morning, 85 and awesome!
best case scenario, Soriano pitches great this season, opts out, and the Yanks can try to resign him if they’re interested.
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If he opts out, we get two picks, and the 11 mil to sign another arm for the pen, maybe a Rauch/Fuentes that is currently on a 1 year deal.
Can’t wait till Texas starts blowing out their arms. Another idiot manager that doesn’t know when to pull a starter. Over 100 pitches and losing the game yet lets send him out for another inning. Still waiting for Nolan Ryan to implement the 4 man rotation
# Captain Clutch April 16th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Go Cano!!! That is a big homerun!!!
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Why?
Was Mo going to give up a run?
Ok, but what about if gets the second out but is at 35 pitches. I think Robertson needed to come in on the next batter no matter what.
BTX,
In Soriano’s defense, plenty of excellent closers have blown leads and cost their team games only to pitch well for the most part.
It’s too early to suggest Soriano will be terrible or even that he won’t be very good.
But it sure would be nice if he figures it out soon and that Girardi doesn’t let him cost the team any 3 run leads by leaving him in too long when he hasn’t.
Enough about Soriano, the game wasn’t blown so let’s move on.
Lets hope we can get CC his 1st win tomorrow.
Beckett only gave up 3 hits in 7 innings.
He looks like a legit number one guy this year.
“By no means did Soriano look good on the mound, of course you warm Robertson up. He’s the one remaining pitcher you can play because you really want to save Mo early in the season. You can’t just toss him into the game without warming him up.
If another hitter had got on base, then you yank Soriano. Girardi had to show a bit of faith there no matter what.”
I agree with you up until the last sentence. Because the cost of losing this game would be so high, I would have brought Roberston in when Beltran’s long fly fortuitously curved foul.
I actually think that, on balance, Girardi handles the pen well, especially in comparison to Torre, but he is a bit too mechanistic at times.
Mr. Holland’s Opus? Kay is brutal.
Cashman told Francesa during that breakfast that the opt out was HIS idea. He wasn ot in favor of signing him, but suggested to ownership that the opt-out was the best way to structure it.
Beckett only gave up 3 hits in 7 innings.
He looks like a legit number one guy this year.
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It kind of sickens me that reading this made me happy. What is fantasy baseball doing to me!?
He looks like a legit number one guy this year.
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Except that first game he started. If Beckett looks like a legit number one, CC must be Cy Young then.
turns out Soriano was just being a mensch: he wanted to make sure Mo got another save.
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No save with a 3 run lead?
It’s that time again …………………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY3LAFJbKyY
Gardner
Enter Sandman.
Gardner gets picked off so we can get this game in before the downpour. What a guy!
It kind of sickens me that reading this made me happy. What is fantasy baseball doing to me!?
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You have been corrupted.
Beckett has the talent, it’s just a matter of can he stay healthy.
It’s not Soriano I am questioning. It is the binder.
By the way, Gardner still hasn’t learned how to be a good baserunner.
No save with a 3 run lead?
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If he didnt give up the runs it would be 5-0 and no save.
Except that first game he started. If Beckett looks like a legit number one, CC must be Cy Young then.
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haha he very well might win the Cy Young this year. Came close last year.
Patrick,
trade him now! his stock is high… and you cant be pulling for him to do well.
win-win
“If he’s trying to win the game I don’t see why he has to show faith in a guy that didn’t have it today.”
Well there’s a few reasons. Robertson needed to warm up being one of them. You can’t just call a guy onto the mound without warming him up because that will just create more problems.
The other reason is, yes, he is Soriano. He was a top closer last year and I believe he led the majors in saves. If you don’t show a little faith in that kind of player, then who do you show faith in? You just can’t yank a pitcher every time he struggles because that’s not great leadership, it’s impractical, and soon you’ll have no pitchers.
Do you yank Mariano every time he gets in a jam?
“Except that first game he started. If Beckett looks like a legit number one, CC must be Cy Young then.”
If Beckett continues to throw like he did in his last two starts, he’s better than CC.
haha he very well might win the Cy Young this year. Came close last year.
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As long as he keeps that ERA down, because we know wins dont matter in the Cy Young voting.
EA,
How is putting in the opt outs the best way to structure the deal?
Wow, Mo
If Beckett continues to throw like he did in his last two starts, he’s better than CC.
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IF…… CC is consistently good, Beckett is not.
BD,
I do have a wealth of pitching, I might have to do that! Unfortunately it’s the lohud league where everyone is a Yankee fan so I’m sure they will have the same reservations that I do
“If Beckett continues to throw like he did in his last two starts, he’s better than CC.”
Some of the worst pitchers in MLB history were great for two starts.
Automatic Mo!
Girardi has to realize that Soriano is just like Joba/Robertson, he’s not Mariano. Joba/Roberton last year were streaky, had game in which their mechanics were out of whack, and had trouble limiting damage. Also had games in which they were lights out. Soriano has shown the same signs so far in his short stint here.
He is effortless and elegant.
not only is Mariano saving games, but he’s doing it on a ridiculously low # of pitches
he is making it look as easy as ever so far this season
Surgical
What will we do when we have no Mo?
Well there’s a few reasons. Robertson needed to warm up being one of them. You can’t just call a guy onto the mound without warming him up because that will just create more problems.
The other reason is, yes, he is Soriano. He was a top closer last year and I believe he led the majors in saves. If you don’t show a little faith in that kind of player, then who do you show faith in? You just can’t yank a pitcher every time he struggles because that’s not great leadership, it’s impractical, and soon you’ll have no pitchers.
Do you yank Mariano every time he gets in a jam?
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Robertson should have been up and warming after it was apparent Soriano didn’t have it today. Girardi was asleep at the wheel once again and let it get way too close before starting Robertson (or Mo).
Soriano is a big boy, he can handle being taken out of a game. If he can’t, he shouldn’t be in the major leagues. If a pitcher isn’t doing well the obvious move is to take him out. I don’t see why that’s different with certain guys.
And to your last point – Soriano is NOT Mo. Not even close.
Darn…………..just delayed gratification, though. Mo will get the next guy out – no problem
Mo has said next year will be his last.
Whoops, rare mistake.
6 saves. 60 pitches. Cyborg.
cs in la April 16th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
What will we do when we have no Mo?
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Sniff glue?
Theee Yankees win!!!!Theee Yankees win!!!!!!
Thought that was going to be an annoying bloop hit, but now.
Great, GREAT job by Garcia – the real hero of the game. Great job by Joba and Mo and by Cano, for giving us breathing room
“If Beckett continues to throw like he did in his last two starts, he’s better than CC.”
Better stuff, more Ks. Probably not as many innings. Beckett will probably also not be as consistent as CC (CC churned out 16 consecutive quality starts in the summer last year) nd will probably have a couple of 7 run games to inflate his ERA.
Beckett throwing like this is as good as CC though for sure, regardless of numbers.
Good afternoon fellow Yankee fans. Garcia should be the Chevy player of the game.
# Betsy April 16th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Mo has said next year will be his last.
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Have you seen that in writing?
Rich in NJ – my comments re agreeing with radiokev had more to do with the chronic efforts of some to blame girardi for 75% of our losses. By no means would I have left soriano out there to face beltre…..joe did, and it worked out. Doesnt mean i am wrong or he was right to do so. My only point was, Girardi is not responsible for nearly every loss, which is what it would seem like if folks didnt watch games and only read this blog. thats all i was saying.
“How is putting in the opt outs the best way to structure the deal?”
I think because it gives the Yankees a chance to recoup the draft picks that they lost from signing him, which was Cashman’s main sticking point.
Betsy…I believe he used the word “might” when referring to this as his last contract.
Gustavo Molina – 1
Haters – 0
Straw, I’ll do some digging, but I’m sure I just read that he said his 2 year deal is his last
If he pulls Soriano he could lose him for the rest of the year.
The guy could be tempermental.
Its called managing.
“I think because it gives the Yankees a chance to recoup the draft picks that they lost from signing him, which was Cashman’s main sticking point.”
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the opt outs give no advantage to the Yanks whatsoever
they are player options.
RS,
Cash also said that about the Vasquez deal
Straw, I’ll do some digging, but I’m sure I just read that he said his 2 year deal is his last
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You read it here.
If he said that it would be front page news.
Cashman looking pretty damn smart right now for some of these veteran signings.
OK, Carlos.
Ooops, Carlo
“Cash also said that about the Vasquez deal”
And it worked…sort of. Vazquez became a type B FA instead of a type A but the draft pick we got for him is still our highest pick this year.
“Cashman looking pretty damn smart right now for some of these veteran signings.”
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seriously. hats off to Cash!
many of my Sox fan friends were laughing it up in the offseason when the Yanks brought in Garcia, Colon, and Prior.
who’s laughing now b1tche$ ??
# Betsy April 16th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Mo has said next year will be his last.
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When you make a statement like that you better be sure about it.
RS,
He was counting on him as being a type A. I swear to some people Cash can do no wrong. The man is like the pope
We all know Mariano is the greatest closer of all time. Here are some more milestones. Rivera passed Trevor Hoffman for total saves (Regular and postseason combined) with his 606th save against Baltimore on 4-13. Today, he passes Hoffman for in terms of “Saved innings” in the regular season. Hoffman which has 601 saves, they represent 602 innings where he’s preserved the lead. Today, Mariano had his 565th save, representing 602.1 innings.
Trevor Hoffman is a class act. When Mariano breaks the saves record, Hoffman will be among the 1st to congratulate him after his Yankee teammates.
Folks need to remember this Garcia start because this was indicative of his season last year. very good quality starts with a few absolute april 2011 hughes’s mixed in.
The fact that Joe hasnt even spoken to Alex is a good sign in my view. If he was concerned, he would have surely spoken to him. Cant afford to lose Al for an extended period…..especially with so many guys not producing.
Thank God, Girardi gave Cano the HR sign. Otherwise I’d be on him like stink on skunk.
How about those Cleveland Indians ?
C’mon Rays ! …….. keep distance and separation between 4th and 5th place.
“the opt outs give no advantage to the Yanks whatsoever
they are player options.”
An opt-out might motivate Soriano to pitch better because he’s theoretically playing for a new contract. Look at Arod’s 2007 season or Burnett’s last season with the Blue Jays. The Yankees can then either convince him to re-sign or let him go and recoup this year’s lost draft picks. Worst case scenario, Soriano has a bad year and sticks around, but that would happen with or without the opt-out clauses.