So far, the Grandy Man can
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 21, 2011 
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This must be what the Yankees had in mind back in the winter of 2009 when they traded three legitimate young players — their center fielder of the future, a young left-handed reliever and a former first-round pick — for Curtis Granderson.
The Yankees knew Granderson would strike out a bunch, and they knew he had a tendency to struggle against lefties, but they also knew he could provide a good glove and a powerful bat.
They saw the glove last year. Now they’re seeing the bat.
Through 16 games, Granderson is hitting .273/.322/.691. He’s now homered in three straight games and left-handers have not been a problem. It’s hard to make too much out of 16 games, but Granderson’s success dates back to last season when he hit .261/.356/.564 after making a mid-August mechanical adjustment.
“We always knew he had a lot of power,” Joe Girardi said. “I think what you’re seeing is he’s making more consistent contact and hitting the ball harder on a consistent basis. It’s been a fairly lengthy period, so that’s a good thing. It bodes well for us.”
Here’s the thing: Sixteen games into last season Granderson was hitting .268/.349/.482. The power numbers weren’t quite the same as today, but he was clearly off to a pretty strong start. By August — when he made those mechanical changes — his slash line was down to .239/.306/.415.
The trick is — as always — to keep going.
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# Against All Odds April 21st, 2011 at 11:49 am
# stuckey99 April 21st, 2011 at 11:46 am
“Reyes is going to have alot of suitors knocking on his door.”
Believe, I’m not advocating it. Just anticipating when a sect of our fellow fans will.
That said, the number of suitors wouldn’t (in theory) be an issue for the Yanks.
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And Reyes wants to stay in NY or at least that’s what the insiders say. Who knows if that’s true or not.
Best CF in baseball.
Grandy owns!!! My favorite player besides Alex. Would love to see him hit 2nd every game but he’s gonna play great anywhere in the lineup.
Also, what’s the over/under on Cashman getting some credit for Colon/Garcia/Martin?
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And Chavez.
Colon impressed me so much last night. I never could have predicted how well he would throw the ball. The fact that he kept his pitch count low was also very impressive.
Colon deserves at least 1 more start. If he can continue to pitch well, I have to believe he is a stronger starter then Ivan Nova or Hughes at this point.
Regarding Reyes, he may be an option if Jeter doesnt come around.
Jeter is not going to stick around to completely embarrass himself for 4 years.
Colon will get at least one more start with Hughes on the DL.
The question is when Hughes comes back, will Nova remain in the rotation?
Unless he pulls it together too, as there are others that can fill his spot.
Gotta love the Grandy Man
The year before the Yankees got Granderson I was watching a Detroit/Yankees game. My husband walked into the room, and I said to him: You know I like Granderson a lot and would like to see him in a Yankees’ uniform.
I got my wish, and last year everyone on here was slamming his offense. I still liked him. Hopefully, I will be proven right over this year and ones to follow.
From the last thread:
“Look Jeter will get better. he isn’t going to hit 220 all year but giving him a 4 years deal was just insane. ”
It wasn’t insane. It was a recognition of past accomplishments and some compensation for the marketing benefits he confers on the franchise.
And, as you said, it’s too early to write him off.
But what was a little nuts (insane is too strong) is the criticism the Yankees (and some of us got) for not wanting to give him even more.
ac1
Regarding Reyes, he may be an option if Jeter doesnt come around.
Jeter is not going to stick around to completely embarrass himself for 4 years.
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I have mixed feelings on this . I can see Jetes sticking around forthe rest of his contract. He maybe on the back 9 .. but he still loves to play . thats the conflict
Joe from Long Island April 21st, 2011 at 11:55 am
If Jose Reyes wants Carl Crawford money, he needs to improve his play.
I watched a TV game Sunday, when Yanks where ESPN night game – dumb, just dumb late-inning baserunning.
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last night was bad too getting doubled off first
Yes!
This is not some rookie. He’s supposed to know better. Well, he doesn’t. Just not a good ballplayer. Right now, I think he’s living off his rep as an “exciting player”, who “can make things happen”. Right now, the only thing he’s making happen is more mistakes and contributing to losses.
Granderson will be an all star this year.
Somehow, I think Jeter will retire if he can’t play the way he thinks he should be playing. I may be wrong, and find out he was just in it for the money. It would change my opinion of him as a person. One never knows. I think the contract for him was 3 yrs with an option….not sure.
“So far, the Grandy Man can ”
You gotta sing it brother !
Seriously, Sterlings Granderson HR call might be the worst one ever. It’s embarrassing.
I’ve literally run to the radio at work to turn it down after a Grandy HR lest someone else hearing it.
# Joe from Long Island April 21st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Joe from Long Island April 21st, 2011 at 11:55 am
If Jose Reyes wants Carl Crawford money, he needs to improve his play.
I watched a TV game Sunday, when Yanks where ESPN night game – dumb, just dumb late-inning baserunning.
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last night was bad too getting doubled off first
Yes!
This is not some rookie. He’s supposed to know better. Well, he doesn’t. Just not a good ballplayer. Right now, I think he’s living off his rep as an “exciting player”, who “can make things happen”. Right now, the only thing he’s making happen is more mistakes and contributing to losses.
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yes his baseball IQ is not where it should be at this point in his career. He has a lot of things to work on in that respect.
Jeter’s contract is 3 years, with an option that they can decline for 5 M.
I can guarantee if it gets that far, and Jeter is still getting worse, he will not be playing that 4th year.
Yankees have loyalty but it would be nice to also get that from someone other than Rivera.
“And Chavez.”
Indeed…
I believe the curve Cashman is graded on by some is thusly:
1.) He doesn’t get credit for big-ticket signings like Sabathia and Teixeira because he’s just spending the Yankees money.
2.) He doesn’t get credit for spring training invitees (Chavez/Colon/Garcia) because that’s just getting lucky.
3.) Regard for most of his moves, like sticking with Gardner instead of making a play for Holliday, the Granderson trade, Marte-Tabata, gets constantly readjusted according to how hot the players are aren’t playing for the Yankees happen to be.
Some fans seem to want Cashman to make trades that rob the other team blind, get the premier free agent of every class without significantly outbidding the other suitors, and every prospect he keeps has to become an above average player.
“You know I like Granderson a lot and would like to see him in a Yankees’ uniform.”
Same here. I think it was during the all star game. I remember thinking the Yanks rarely seem to have a player like that in their prime.
Bronx Jeers April 21st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I?ve literally run to the radio at work to turn it down after a Grandy HR lest someone else hearing it.
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I hate to say it but signing Reyes to play SS would improve the Yankees a great deal
The “Russell has muscle,” followed by the French phrases, is giving “The Grandyman Can” a run for its money.
On a similar note, Reyes for SS in 2012?
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Bret already started that over the winter minutes after Crawford signed with the Sox.
Not to help push this agenda, but as flawed as Reyes is, he’s still (when healthy) an .800+-ish OPS SS who has 50+ SB potential and perennial 110 runs scored potential.
Jeter’s contract is 3 years, with an option that they can decline for 5 M.
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It’s a player option for $8MM. If he declines Yanks owe him $3MM
And the $8MM can go up to $17MM depending on things like MVP votes, Gold Gloves etc etc.
Not to help push this agenda, but as flawed as Reyes is, he’s still (when healthy) an .800+-ish OPS SS who has 50+ SB potential and perennial 110 runs scored potential.
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SMH
LGY,
Then apparently I should take the under.
Cash deserves more credit, by far, for CC than any other signing because:
1) He’s really good.
2) There was only money available because Cash got ownership not to trade for Santana
3) CC had to be convinced that the unpleasant clubhouse culture that sprung in the latter years of Torre’s reign would be changed to a more fun atmosphere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6sA9uwdlw
I would love to have Reyes, but I know it isn’t happening.
Patrick, “SMH” usually indicates disagreement. Do you?
JM April 21st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
The ?Russell has muscle,? followed by the French phrases, is giving ?The Grandyman Can? a run for its money.
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I haven’t had the pleasure (?) of hearing that one yet. This is what he came up with??? LOL
Sterling’s Martin call…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6sA9uwdlw
Patrick, “SMH” usually indicates disagreement. Do you?
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In this case it was meant to indicate disappointment and disbelief that you’d quote runs scored as something that matters
Oh also stucky, SMH stands for “shake my head”
“In this case it was meant to indicate disappointment and disbelief that you’d quote runs scored as something that matters
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Patrick, not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not. Are you in the camp that RBI and RS are just products of who hits in front of and behind you and not useful stats?
Re: Reyes
Idk how many of you guys watch Mets games, but idk if signing Reyes would be the best idea. Obviously, he brings a lot in terms of talent on the field, but
1. He’s not always healthy. History has shown he has a hard time of keeping his talent on the field. Plus he’s young and his skillset, much like Carl Crawford, doesn’t lend itself to aging.
2. He is not a “Yankee” type player. He is consistently making terrible mistakes in the field and on the bases. He isn’t very patient at the plate either. His focus simply wains on certain days which, as I’ve seen with many of my Met fan friends, can become frustrating.
There are obvious benefits to having a player of his caliber, but IMHO, for what a SS like him will command in the offseason, especially since some big money teams are in desperate need of SS, I don’t want to see the Yanks give him the $$ or, more importantly, the years to sign him.
Forget Reyes…I’m holding out hope that the Rockies go in the tank and need to trade Tulo at some point.
“I may be wrong, and find out he was just in it for the money. It would change my opinion of him as a person.”
Derek was lucky that he got drafted by a team he loved and one who would pay him to keep on loving it instead of a team that would test his loyalty in free agency.
A game to fans but a business to players and I don;t think less of any of them for making what they can when they can.
If the Yankees offered Derek 10/$100 and the Angels offered him 10/$189 in 2000 do you think he would have stayed a Yankee? I’m not so sure.
Hopefully one of the several SS’s the Yankees have drafted recently will pan out.
# Patrick April 21st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I hate to say it but signing Reyes to play SS would improve the Yankees a great deal
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Reyes and Cano in their prime to go along with Tex and A-rod who is getting older but can still be a 30 and 100 guy. Also the hope of Montero becoming a big leaguer yes that would be sick.
“If the Yankees offered Derek 10/$100 and the Angels offered him 10/$189 in 2000 do you think he would have stayed a Yankee? I’m not so sure.”
No way, but he’d have been right to leave.
stuckey99 April 21st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Sterling?s Martin call?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6sA9uwdlw
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thanks for posting it stuckey. I can’t listen to it at the moment, but I definitely will later. Very curious to hear this thing.
Anyone read about Ryan Franklin going off about the Cards fans?
He ever did that in NY, he would be done.
Like they dont have a right to boo the guy blowing all their games, yet making as much money as he is?
Are you in the camp that RBI and RS are just products of who hits in front of and behind you and not useful stats?
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Short answer: Yes
Long answer: RBI and RS are products of many things, not just who hits around a guy. RS could be a function of OBP, ability to steal bases, speed, and who hits behind a hitter. RBI could be a function of batting average, SLG and who hits in front of him. The point is, telling me a guy has 110 runs scored potential just doesn’t make any sense because it’s making a comment about a team, not a player.
It makes more sense, and is more complimentary to the player, if you say that he has good OBP skills, good hitting skills and GREAT speed.
# blake April 21st, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Forget Reyes…I’m holding out hope that the Rockies go in the tank and need to trade Tulo at some point.
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Tulo would fit like a glove.
You’re all forgetting the worst element of Sterling’s Granderson home run call, the first part: “You’re something sort of grandish”.
For those keeping score at home, “Something Sort of Grandish” is a song from the musical Finian’s Rainbow.
“Forget Reyes…I’m holding out hope that the Rockies go in the tank and need to trade Tulo at some point.”
Perchance to dream.
Granderson really could prove to be a top center fielder this year.
Franklin has been awful. As a fantasy owner of his I am booing him right now as I type. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Screw Him
I think Jeter’s obituary is being written too soon. If he hasn’t picked it up by June then we can talk….he’s still trying to get comfortable at the plate again, has looked better the last week or so. It’s still extremely early in the season.
“Tulo would fit like a glove.”
Ya think?
Arguably the moment’s best player in the game would fit like a glove on 29 teams, minus perhaps the Marlins, though I don’t think Ramirez is long for SS… so make that all 30.
I’d love to see Curtis make an All-Star game as a Yankee.
Stuckey,
maybe we can get Madoff to give the Rockies owner some advice…..
Tulo isn’t the best player in baseball but he’s the one I most wish I could transplant onto the Yankees sometime in the next 2-3 years.
Yeah, I think Jeter is hitting the ball harder lately.
Tulo isn’t the best player in baseball but he’s the one I most wish I could transplant onto the Yankees sometime in the next 2-3 years.
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Yeah agreed. If I was starting a franchise I’d pick Tulowitzki #1 in the draft. He’s young, plays a premium position, hits well, fields well… he’s a great guy to build a team around
Calling it now, Cito Culver will be the next Tulo. Cito & Tulo.
Kidding, by the way.
# stuckey99 April 21st, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Tulo would fit like a glove.”
Ya think?
Arguably the moment’s best player in the game would fit like a glove on 29 teams, minus perhaps the Marlins, though I don’t think Ramirez is long for SS… so make that all 30.
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I agree I can see Hanley being moved off of SS. I’m surprised that hasn’t been addressed already.
Wears 2 just like Jeter, he’s the leader of the Rockies, plays defense, hits for power and average, etc. It’s like the baseball Gods(if anyone actually believes that kind of thing) said we have the replacement for the Captain but he will never play for the Yankees.
Patrick,
I would as well I think. A great SS is probably the hardest thing to find in baseball right now.
Grandy is on fire.
Austin Jackson who???
After Russell has Muscle! he says ” Monsieur Martin est’ la ”
Supposed to be “Mr Martin is here” or something.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6282202
A little Jeter love to break up all the hate.
Chavez hasn’t homered yet.
” Eric Chavez ? You look Mahhhhvelous !!! ”
Just wait….You heard it here first.
As far as Reyes goes, I don’t think I see him as a Yankee. He is on my fantasy team. He hasn’t done much. I don’t know what his batting average is, but his offense is not that great. He is flighty on the field, and makes too many mistakes for an all star quality player. He is certainly not worth 17 million or whatever Crawford makes, which he is worth either.
We all have to hope that Derek will return to a semblance of his former self. The Yankees aren’t going to eat his contract: I don’t think.
Fun with numbers…
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/b.....l/sort/OPS
Austin Jackson, Brett Gardner and Carl Crawford are currently the 3 lowest (in that order) qualifying AL outfielders at the moment, by OPS.
In other words, Brian Cashman was pretty much f****d whatever he did…
Reyes is very overrated. One of the laziest players in the league, shows up out of shape all the time, chronic hammy issues.
Why do we want him? Because of his horrible on-base skills?
“In other words, Brian Cashman was pretty much f****d whatever he did… ”
Matt Holliday: .439/.558/.634/1.192
SAS,
Reyes’ only standout skill is speed. He’s a good but not great hitter, and a good but not great fielder. But he’s incredibly valuable because he plays SS, has great speed and doesn’t have any big weaknesses at the plate or in the field. It’s incredibly hard to find a good shortstop. He will get big money this offseason.
UnKnown
thanks for the Jeter article
NickSwisher Enjoying an awesome off day after a huge win last night with @joannalgarcia, the Robertsons, and the Longs. Let the fishing begin!!
What’s the connection between Fernando Llamas and Eric Chavez?
they are skipping Nova right?
So this weekend is Garcia/CC/AJ?
ac1 April 21st, 2011 at 12:44 pm
they are skipping Nova right?
So this weekend is Garcia/CC/AJ?
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Nova is going on Sunday as far as I know. AJ starts the CWS series on Monday.
I’d love to see Garcia and Colon go back to back in a doubleheader against, say, the Royals.
“The trick is — as always — to keep going.”
That pretty much says it all. And come October we’ll be able to better evaluate Granderson and Gardner and Jeter and everyone else on this team. No one can predict the future with any certitude.
Billy Crystal’s a big Yankee fan ?
There’s just not many options with Eric Chavez. This season could be Sterling’s swan song and he wants to go out in a fabulous blaze of glory.
Unknown,
Yes thanks for the link. I give Sutcliffe a hard time but he really does seem like a good guy….horrible announcer but a good guy.
That’s the Derek Jeter that so many are on constantly…the guy that has been nothing but a great ambassador for the Yankees and baseball for so many years…..the guy that helped with 5 championships and has only missed the playoffs once in his career.
Cut the guy some slack…..even if he dares start to decline a bit. One day he’ll be gone and I’ll miss seeing him out there….that’s for sure.
CC, Garcia, Nova for the wknd
As long as he’s healthy, Colon’s going to be in this rotation.
Right now, he’s the second best guy we’ve got. He isn’t doing this on smoke and mirrors. His stuff has looked great and he’s got 20 Ks to 5 walks in 18 innings. Just impressive.
Nova’s probably pitching for his spot in the rotation this weekend.
Reyes is very overrated. One of the laziest players in the league, shows up out of shape all the time, chronic hammy issues.
Why do we want him? Because of his horrible on-base skills?
Because of his unique baserunning, and overrall winnng personality?
(If you can’t tell, I’m kidding.)
Joe from LI – He makes my legs hurt when I watch him run :p
Joe,
I agree…..I’d let some other team take on the huge risk of a big contract with him.
UnKnown April 21st, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Franklin has been awful. As a fantasy owner of his I am booing him right now as I type. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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I dropped Franklin like a hot potato after the first couple weeks, in favor of the best available closer at the time – Nunez. He’s no Mariano but, so far, he’s been serviceable.
Bronx Jeers April 21st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Billy Crystal’s a big Yankee fan ?
There’s just not many options with Eric Chavez. This season could be Sterling’s swan song and he wants to go out in a fabulous blaze of glory.
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Speaking of Sterling, that would be Donald Sterling who owns the NBA Clippers, the worst owner in sports by far — Billy Crystal is a huge Clipper fan and in his Jack-lite first row seats almost every game. Go figure.
“Why do we want him? Because of his horrible on-base skills?”
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In 2010 only 3 SS had an OPS over .800.
When Reyes is healthy he is a legitimate .800 OPS+ player, with good defense, and great SB ability.
He is a top 3 SS in baseball when he is healthy and would I assume people are talking about him because he would be a MAJOR upgrade over Jeter.
Sterling will be carried out. He’s here for his duration.
‘He is on my fantasy team. He hasn’t done much. I don’t know what his batting average is, but his offense is not that great’.
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Boy is that hitting the nail on the head. Every time I have to ‘auto draft’ my team I end up with Reyes. He just sits there and plugs along, last year he was injured so often it wasn’t even funny. Never does anything spectacular, gets some SB’s and scores a few runs. Based on fantasy I think he is a loafer and comes up with mystery ailments to get days off.
Reyes at the top of the Yankee lineup would enable this offense, all things being equal, to score 1000 runs.
# Rich in NJ April 21st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Reyes at the top of the Yankee lineup would enable this offense, all things being equal, to score 1000 runs.
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he would have a field day in that ball park.
Rich – why? Reyes is an awful leadoff hitter.
Reyes hasn’t done much???
He is hitting .329 with an .848 OPS and 8 SB (0 caught stealing) so far this year.
That is doing A LOT, especially for a SS.
Reyes has had an OPS over .800 twice in his career and hasn’t done so since 2008….also hasn’t played a full season since 2008. He’s a good player when he’s healthy….but he’s never healthy and I wouldn’t want him on a long term big contract.
“Rich – why? Reyes is an awful leadoff hitter.”
How so? When healthy, he’s pretty much puts up a .350-.360 OBP. With his speed, that’s effective, and more importantly, the Yankees have no one better.
“Reyes at the top of the Yankee lineup would enable this offense, all things being equal, to score 1000 runs.”
How exactly are we going from the 859 runs scored (with Jeter scoring 111 of them) to 1000?
Is Reyes going to score 252 runs?
“How exactly are we going from the 859 runs scored (with Jeter scoring 111 of them) to 1000?
Is Reyes going to score 252 runs?”
Because a player of his caliber (when healthy) has the potential to have a synergistic effect on the lineup.
Like you get that he can drive in runs as well, right?
The Yankee offense is way better than the 859 runs they scored last year.
While we’re dealing with the Mets, let’s get Bay, too.
Jose Reyes would turn the Yankees into a 1000 run offense…if Matt Holliday were in left field.
1 overrated leadoff guy isn’t going to make the yankees 200 runs better. You’d need to also replace Gardner with someone that has power and have average-above average years for everyone on the team.
The Yankees scored 915 runs in 2009 with Jeter near the top of his game. So maybe not 1000, although a big year from Granderson and that punchless LF could make it possible, but 950 potential is there.
Sorry I don’t buy it. Reyes might be a 20-30run improvement to the team over Jeter, certainly no where near 100.
Reyes is certainly not a better leadoff hitter than Gardner (when he’s right… obviously right now he isnt).
teixeiramark25 While I do not condone organized crime, there are some great movies on the subject. Here are my Top Five “Mobster” movies of all time:
5) Casino
4) Scarface
3) The Godfather
2) Goodfellas
…1) The Godfather, Part II
Tell me what you think, I left some good ones off my list but there is only room for five.
top 5 people the Yankee organization need to rid themselves of.
1. Jon Sterling
2. Suzyn Waldman
3-5. See 1 and 2.
6. Kei Igawa
Jerkface, I already suggested one: Bay from the Mets in a salary dump, and I imagine they’d eat some of it to be rid of him.
I would put the godfather movies together and put donnie brasco or ronin on that list
Jerkface is right.. Matt Holliday would come a lot closer to turning this offense up a notch than Reyes would….which is why they should have signed him when they had the chance.
Irreverent Discourse April 21st, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I would put the godfather movies together and put donnie brasco or ronin on that list
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I agree with his top 4, although I’d flip The Godfather and Goodfellas. For some reason, I’ve never really cared for Casino.
I think Donnie Brasco is underrated…I like that one.
I wish YES could permantly have Singleton and Cone do the games and allow the voice of the Michael Kay show to be the voice of the Michael Kay show.
blake April 21st, 2011 at 1:28 pm
I wish YES could permantly have Singleton and Cone do the games and allow the voice of the Michael Kay show to be the voice of the Michael Kay show.
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I was pleasantly surprised to get the YES feed last night-I had forgotten how much I missed Cone in the booth!
Erin April 21st, 2011 at 1:21 pm
teixeiramark25 While I do not condone organized crime, there are some great movies on the subject. Here are my Top Five “Mobster” movies of all time:
5) Casino
4) Scarface
3) The Godfather
2) Goodfellas
…1) The Godfather, Part II
Tell me what you think, I left some good ones off my list but there is only room for five.
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I love The Departed. That movie was awesome. Great cast.
Does “the whole 9 yards” count as a mobster movie?
I’d rather have Beltran. Bay is under contract, and I don’t want him mucking about in left field for 3 years.
blake April 21st, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Does ?the whole 9 yards? count as a mobster movie?
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sure, why not?
There are plenty of mob comedies
I’m just getting to this now as I was at work earlier, but if Colon sticks, then the only way Phil makes it back to the rotation is if Nova fails (I don’t see Garcia being replaced unless he’s just awful). That’s amazing to me. Of course, I don’t think we need to worry about this anytime soon…….and better AAA than the pen (unless the Yankees want to keep going through the innings issue with him again in 2012), but in the event the Yankees have to make a choice……..wow.
As to Grandy, aside from Mo, he’s my favorite Yankee – I love him ever since he was traded here and I always had faith that he would come through.
but in the event the Yankees have to make a choice……..wow.
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If the choice does come down to Phil or Nova, it is a very easy decision.
I was worried that Tex was condoning orgranized crime, so that’s a relief.
RiverAveBlues RT @AlexBelth: National Geo Channel special on the the dismantling of Yankee Stadium airs next week: http://tinyurl.com/6est9z2 Looks great
Nick in SF April 21st, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I was worried that Tex was condoning orgranized crime, so that?s a relief.
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LGY, really? Even if Nova is doing well?
The Departed was good so many quotes from that movie.
“Who the *blank* are you
Dignam: I’m the guy who does his job you must be the other guy.
I don’t even love Nova, but it’s amazing how many have given up on him already
If Hughes is healthy and throwing with good velocity, he will replace one of: Colon, Garcia, Nova. Nova will probably get shifted to long-man.
Donnie Brasco is a great movie. Can’t really beat the first two Godfather flicks. The third one; what a disappointment! And Goodfellas is one of my favorite all-time movies. Hard to believe it did not win Best Picture. The scene where Henry and his girlfriend (soon to be wife) are escorted through the back door of the Copa and eventually to seats right by the stage is one of my favorite all-time movie scenes.
Phil has way more talent and upside than Nova and was guaranteed a rotation spot coming into the season while Nova battled to get a spot at the backed of the rotation.
Finally, Phil is coming off a season that Yankee fans should be t absolutely hrilled with if Nova could just replicate that performance.
Not much of a decision to be made IMO.
I refuse to watch Sopranos or the Godfather (too much blood), but I’ve gotten into real life organized crime just recently. Mobsters, on Biography, is a really cool series. My father grew up with a friend whose uncle was a big deal in Murder Incorporated……
In college, my roomate was a girl whose uncle wrote Goodfellas……
What to do with too many effective starting pitchers is not exactly a big concern right now.
Jerkface, that’s probably true…….I don’t believe he should be wally pipped.
I don’t think many have given up on Nova.
Some people just put ridiculous expectations on Nova after one start, saying silly things like he is better than Phil.
Wally Pipped?
What future Hall-of-Famer and all-time-great is going to force Phil Hughes out of the rotation?
Anyway, there are multiple rotation spots, so it’s not like one person locking up a single one would force out another pitcher for good like someone locking up first base did in the 1920′s.
I don’t believe he should be wally pipped.
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Right but what makes you think he would be? You’re thinking too much worst case scenario.
Nova and Hughes both stink. They can’t develop starting pitchers. They shouldn’t even try. And trade every pitching prospect they have as well.
I refuse to watch Sopranos or the Godfather (too much blood), but I’ve gotten into real life organized crime just recently.
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You should have ended your post there
Jerkface, it was brought up last night and then I saw the thread about Colon sticking…….that’s all. I’m not really concerned about it now because I do not think we’re going to see Phil anytime soon, but since the topic was brought up last night, it got me thinking.
LGY, I thought the expectations for Nova pre-season were too high. I mean, even the very best prospects often struggle in their first year starting…..Now, when he’s struggled a bit, I’ve seen people (not so much here, granted) just want to dump him as if he’s nothing. Are you referring to anyone in particular who made that sort of comment about Nova and Phil?
“but I’ve gotten into real life organized crime just recently.”
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so “Besty Nails” wasn’t just a joke….that was your street name?
Patrick, why?
Patrick, why?
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Because it’s funny?
Are you referring to anyone in particular who made that sort of comment about Nova and Phil?
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A few people (prob more than a few) said that.
I like to pick on mick, so I’ll just name him.
Blake, it might well be, lol. I had a biting problem when I was a kid and I was constantly in trouble at camp, lol……. I used to fight with this girl all the time and I had no problem using my nails, lol. I’m not sure why I didn’t end up as some moll
There are two types of days when Phil Hughes is a crucial topic: off days and games days.
Since this is one of them, I’ll weigh in with my untutored opinion.
Phil Hughes has a lot of talent. If he regains his arm strength and demonstrates the ability to get hitters out again, they will find a place for him to pitch and that place will likely soon be in the rotation.
LGY, it’s probably not a good idea to get into it, but I will just say that Nova has better stuff and more pitches than Phil.
“Jerkface is right.. Matt Holliday would come a lot closer to turning this offense up a notch than Reyes would….which is why they should have signed him when they had the chance.”
Et tu Blake?
LGY, it’s probably not a good idea to get into it, but I will just say that Nova has better stuff and more pitches than Phil.
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lol
How exactly are we going from the 859 runs scored (with Jeter scoring 111 of them) to 1000?
Is Reyes going to score 252 runs?
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LMAO !
Nova has better stuff than Phil Hughes with worse results.
Nova does not have better stuff. He just doesn’t.
Oh, lol – now that I re-read it, that comment is sort of interesting. It’s funny, I can watch a documentary on the Valentines’ Day Massacre and not flinch (even though it’s real blood in the photos, it’s black and white), but I can not think about watching a movie like the Godfather. The color of red, even though it’s just dye/paint/whatever, is too realistic.
Nick, do you still go to In and Out?
# blake April 21st, 2011 at 1:57 pm
“but I’ve gotten into real life organized crime just recently.”
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so “Besty Nails” wasn’t just a joke….that was your street name?
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Lohud Blogger by day…Betsy Nails by night and no one would suspect a thing.
Erin April 21st, 2011 at 1:21 pm
teixeiramark25 While I do not condone organized crime, there are some great movies on the subject. Here are my Top Five “Mobster” movies of all time:
5) Casino
4) Scarface
3) The Godfather
2) Goodfellas
…1) The Godfather, Part II
Tell me what you think, I left some good ones off my list but there is only room for five.
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The St. Valentine’s Day Massacre.
Nitti: The Enforcer
Road to Perdition.
Betsy,
Totally serious question/suggestion. Why not just post once saying you were severely disappointed in both Phil Hughes 2010 and his stuff, he is NOT the player you thought you were championing before last summer and you’ll always have doubts about this potential to have a long career as a front of the rotation guy despite your personal like of him, and that there is nothing wrong with having that opinion.
In all earnest seriousness, anything beyond that is utterly superfluous at this point.
never mind the talk about Reyes, Phil and Nova
when do we start complaining that the Yankees don’t win enough consecutive games, or score enough runs in a particular inning?
I’m not boycotting In-N-Out but I haven’t been going frequently lately.
You can add
“Oscar”
“Murder, Inc.”
I wonder if that place is as good as it’s cracked up to be. I love burgers, but boy, the way people talk about it……..
One awful movie that I saw bits and pieces of was Capone, with Ben Gazarra. First of all, Capone around that time (1920s) was pretty young – and Gazarra looked like he was in his 50′s. They also took a real life incident (the attempted assassination of his mentor, Johnny Torio) and made it seem like Capone set that up.
Just saw a bio on Nitti – he committed suicide. I find Luciano to be an interesting character as well.
Odds, only the people in my inner circle and they wouldn’t talk because as anyone knows – rats are considered lower than low.
We’re now getting Smashburger’s in the NJ area.
I like. Better than 5 Guys.
Shake Shack rules, however.
Best thing at CitiField, by a mike, all inclusively.
when do we start complaining that the Yankees don’t win enough consecutive games, or score enough runs in a particular inning?
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Both of these issues stem from the same ‘problem’, rotation and lineup inconsistency. The superior talent (and over achieving in the rotations case) allow the yankees to still perform better than most other teams in baseball. Hooray for having a deep team!
Going back a bit, “Public Enemy” with James Cagney (and Jean Harlow) is another good one.
Betsy:
Will you say ‘Hi’ to Pluto for me when you go on your trip ?
# Betsy April 21st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Odds, only the people in my inner circle and they wouldn’t talk because as anyone knows – rats are considered lower than low.
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lol
Yes rats aren’t tolerated at any level. Rule number # 1 never cross Betsy Nails it won’t be pretty.
5 Guys is very good – their fries are fantastic.
See you later everyone
How about “Key Largo”?
Smashburger is ok, 5 guys is better
I’ll take 5.5 runs a game, any which way the Yankees want to score them, no questions asked.
All in one inning, all homeruns, 9 consecutive catcher interferences.
You name it, I’m easy.
Donnie Brasco.
oh I forgot the other complaint, that the Yankees score most of their runs via the HR
we heard that about you Stuckey
Odds, that’s right, lol…..I’m going to have people call me “Nails” from now on…
Shake Shake #1
Shake *Shack*
GreenBeret7 April 21st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Erin April 21st, 2011 at 1:21 pm
teixeiramark25 While I do not condone organized crime, there are some great movies on the subject. Here are my Top Five “Mobster” movies of all time:
5) Casino
4) Scarface
3) The Godfather
2) Goodfellas
…1) The Godfather, Part II
Tell me what you think, I left some good ones off my list but there is only room for five.
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The St. Valentine’s Day Massacre.
Nitti: The Enforcer
Road to Perdition
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The Departed
Donnie Brasco
Once Upon A Time in America
Freundian slip LGY
GreenBeret7 April 21st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
The St. Valentine?s Day Massacre.
Nitti: The Enforcer
Road to Perdition.
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GB, I love Road to Perdition.
How about “Public Enemy”? Am I the only really old fart here?
oh I forgot the other complaint, that the Yankees score most of their runs via the HR
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The best way to score!
Brett Cecil just got optioned to AAA, blue jays vastly more impatient than yankees.
jonmorosi Surprising news from Toronto: #BlueJays send starter Brett Cecil to Las Vegas and promote infielder Chris Woodward. #MLB
# Nick in SF April 21st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I’m not boycotting In-N-Out but I haven’t been going frequently lately.
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Nick, in the northeast we have a relatively new chain called 5 guys and I find it as good as, if not better than In and Out, the fries are better, burgers about even, they’re only missing milkshakes. Have you tried it yet or heard anything about it out west?
Do the Mayans have some sort of 2011 prophecy about oblique injuries and lost velocity?
Morrow should be off the DL soon, maybe that is why? They were talking about how the Jays carry 13 pitchers and had a limited bench as a result.
Were Guy Ritchie’s Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels & Snatch mentioned as well as Quentin Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction mentioned?
For HBO series the show Boardwalk Empire is terrific.
“jonmorosi Surprising news from Toronto: #BlueJays send starter Brett Cecil to Las Vegas and promote infielder Chris Woodward. #MLB”
If you can’t shutdown the Yankees’ pitiful offense, you shouldn’t be in MLB.
I think 5 Guys has been around for a while. It’s from DC or Virginia.
Yanks need to get that in there and can that Johnny Rocket place.
Count me in the Donnie Brasco is underrated group. Great movie.
Blood and mob movies kind of go hand in hand.
If you like British crime and James Bond, look into Layer Cake.
You won’t be disappointed.
my top 5 for gangster films
1. Godfather 2
2. Godfather 1
3. Goodfellas
4. Departed
5. Pulp Fiction
I tried Five Guys at Dulles last year, it was great. I think it’s actually been around for a while, maybe it’s just recently that they’ve expanded.
Five Guys is ramping up their operations in California, a direct challenge to In-N-Out.
Betsy April 21st, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Just saw a bio on Nitti – he committed suicide. I find Luciano to be an interesting character as well.
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Geez, and all this time I thought Kevin Costner threw him off a roof!
BryanHoch Yankees.com: Yankees partner with Keep America Beautiful http://atmlb.com/dQctmv
If you like British crime and James Bond, look into Layer Cake.
You won’t be disappointed.
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Good movie. I would recommend for Sienna Miller alone but seriously, a good movie.
jonmorosi Column at FOXSports.com: This season — and the AL East — is playing right into the #Yankees’ hands. http://on-msn.com/gUJWO6 #MLB
Is Pulp Fiction considered a mob/gangster movie?
Well, if it is, that’s definitely in my Top 5.
Not sure if “Blow” is considered a gangster movie, but I think that one is underrated as well.
Coincidentally, another Johnny Depp movie. I like him much better in serious roles than the Pirates of the Caribbean and other kid movies.
I’ve been to 5 Guys in Seattle, it was really good. To each their own, but I thought In n Out was terrible. Fuddruckers is really good too.
“Good movie. I would recommend for Sienna Miller alone but seriously, a good movie.”
I like her in “Interview.”
“Good movie. I would recommend for Sienna Miller alone but seriously, a good movie.”
Directed by the guy who also directed Kick-Ass and this year’s X-Men: First Class.
Erin April 21st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
GreenBeret7 April 21st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
The St. Valentine?s Day Massacre.
Nitti: The Enforcer
Road to Perdition.
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GB, I love Road to Perdition.
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Erin, that movie had so many shockers in it. Given the stars are Paul Newman and Tom Hanks, never expected that. Great movie
There have been 3 five guys built within 15 minutes of me within the last year. One in my office building….it’s tough to not just walk down there every day for lunch.
True Fact: Road to Perdition is a comic book movie! Had a great cinematographer.
True Romance is a good gangster movie as well.
# tomingeorgia April 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
How about “Public Enemy”? Am I the only really old fart here?
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Nope, I mentioned that one as well….And yes, I guess I am old….LOL
JM, sorry I missed your post somehow. Does “Key Largo” qualify?
“True Romance is a good gangster movie as well.”
My favorite Tarantino screenplay, even better than Pulp Fiction.
I have seen True Romance about 25 times.
True Romance is excellent.
Anything with Edward G. Robinson.
I just want to see Joe Pesci and Frank Vincent go at it one more time.
Especially “Little Caesar”.
True Romance had an all star cast:
Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, Gary Oldman, Tom Sizemore, Chris Penn, Brad Pitt, Samuel L. Jackson, James Gandolfini…etc, etc.
I can watch True Romance every time it’s on cable, fantastic film. Not sure if it fits in this category but that can certainly be debated.
Miller’s Crossing was good.
Joelsherman1 3UP http://nyp.st/eoboSj Did losing weight cost Hughes velocity, feels late around #Mets, why doesn’t Jeter get Gardner treatment #Yankees
I love that the Stadium is using renewable energy!
Any type of responsible action like that is better than doing nothing at all.
I love that the Stadium is using renewable energy!
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Why do you think Cashman targets guys with electric stuff?
upstate kate April 21st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Morrow is on one of my Fantasy Team DL’S………..stashed away for a rainy day.
Jeter doesn’t get the Gardner treatment because he’s a HOFer and has given the Yankees 15 plus productive seasons……not half of one.
Two years ago, I wondered aloud (on this blog) what it would take to pry Granderson away from the Tigers. It was a lot, but he will be a big star in New York. Four years ago he hit .302, scored 122 runs with 38 doubles, 23 triples, and 23 homers. That’s big.
I’d like to see him slotted in the number two spot ahead of Tex and Arod permanently.
“Why do you think Cashman targets
guys with electric stuffrecycled players?”Fixed?
Never seen True Romance….sounds like I should
# Betsy April 21st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
5 Guys is very good – their fries are fantastic.
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Just got the 1st 5 Guys out here in the North Bay about 6 weeks ago. Very good.
i can watch the Christian Slater-Gary Oldman, or Chris Walken/Dennis Hopper scenes all day.
But one of my favorite movie lines of off ALL TIME is this one…
It’s when Elliot (Bronson Pinchot) is meeting Clarence for the first time in the amusement park about buying the cocaine.
He says “So you guys got five hundred thousand dollars worth of cola that you’re
unloading..”
He gets interrupted by Clarence and begins again, verbatim.
“So you guys got five hundred thousand dollars worth of cola that you’re
unloading..”
Brilliant moment that utterly explains Pinchot’s character without a single line of exposition.
Nick in SF, so far I’ll take the recycled ones.
“I’d like to see him slotted in the number two spot ahead of Tex and Arod permanently.”
If he keeps hitting lefties like he has been then they do need to get him more AB’s….
Erin:
Are you lurking out there ? I have a question for you.
Fixed?
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Very good.
VY
Morrow is on my fantasy team as well! I am anxiously awaiting him to be off the DL b/c I also have Phil.
Vineyard Yankee April 21st, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Erin:
Are you lurking out there ? I have a question for you.
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Yep, still here!
Brews give Braun a contract extension through 2020.
Cecil is going through the same thing that Phil is…..missing velo and command of the fastball……the “dead arm” thing.
Reyes would be at his most dynamic in our lineup and playing his home games @ Yanks Stadium. In essence as much as I like Swisher i’d prefer to pay Reyes 15+mm over the next 5 or 6 years than say Swish that much for 3 or 4 years.
Reyes is signed and is the ’11 starting SS and Jeter having finished his career @ SS with 3100 hits is the starting RF’er or Swish is resigned Jeter is the primary DH and Posada is in the yes booth with Kenny, Kay and Conie.
Gardner LF
Reyes SS
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Cano 2B
Montero DH
Grandy CF
Jeter RF
Martin C
or
Gardy LF
Reyes SS
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Cano 2B
Swish RF
Grandy CF
Montero C
Jeter DH
would be impossible lineup to pitch to…
Seems unnecessary
I have a feeling that some of these teams dealing out these extensions are going to be burned….it sounds great at the time but 9 or 10 years is a long time.
Braun was already locked up through 2016…
Erin:
Don’t laugh too hard now…………..how do you make those little yellow arrows that you post when there is a new thread ? LOL !
Vineyard Yankee- it’s : arrow : (no spaces between the colons)
Jerkface,
exactly, that’s already a long time….why not see how he’s playing in 5 years.
And its for 21 mil a year??! Brewers must think alot about salary inflation.
BartoloarrowBartolo
Hmmm, didn’t work.
Nick is nothing if not quick on the draw…..
CAA_Baseball Congrats to #Brewers Ryan Braun on 5-yr, $105M extension through 2020, largest deal in team history.
$10 m. signing bonus. Salaries 2016-2020 $19 m, $19 m., $19 m. $18 m., $16 m
WOW…why?
One movie that gets no recognition and I forgot to add is “The Seven-Ups” with Roy Scheider. Some of the best car chase scenes in movies.
Nick in SF April 21st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
BartoloarrowBartolo
Hmmm, didn?t work.
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OMG, Nick I just spit my water all over my desk.
Wonder how Braun’s signing affects Prince Fielder.
The Brew Crew must have a pretty good feeling that Prince is leaving.
That’s a big extension that starts a long time from now….lot of risk involved in that deal. Braun will be like 32 or 33 in 2016 and just starting that extension. Doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you are getting a big discount.
David April 21st, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I’ve been to 5 Guys in Seattle, it was really good. To each their own, but I thought In n Out was terrible. Fuddruckers is really good too.
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I think there are about 4 Five Guys in the Seattle area. I haven’t been but my son and his girlfriend rave about it.
Tonight, for me, it will be a gyro at The Safe. I haven’t seen a Felix start in person so far this season … I’m hoping it will be a Happy Felix Day and not a sad one (as has been the case for his last 3 starts)
“BartoloarrowBartolo”
Explaining that would get lost in the translation if I tried to explain why I just busted out laughing on a call with a client. Right?
Fielder’s either going to have to go on a diet or go to another team. Brewers are going to have to cut back on the pre- and post-game spreads to pay for Braun.
Little Caesar is also excellent. Forgot about that one!
It’s interesting that Scarface, when it came out, was pretty universally panned. Now it’s become a kind of cult classic.
Miller’s Crossing is one of my favorite movies for some reason. What’s the rumpus?
Kate:
This is my Pitching Staff for that particular team. Apparently Morrow came off the DL just a short time ago. (today)
Felix Hernandez, Sea
Clayton Kershaw, LAD
Mat Latos, SD
Ricky Nolasco, Fla
Ian Kennedy, Ari
Jonathan Broxton, LAD
Leo Nunez, Fla
Chris Carpenter, StL
Ryan Franklin, StL
Colby Lewis, Tex.
Matt Harrison, Tex.
Andrew Bailey*, Oak. DL
Brandon Morrow, Tor DL
New Post: “You take advantage of it when you can”
“Bugsy” was a good movie, too.
Little Caesar was the first mob movie, three years after talkies originated, and Robinson’ first famous “See?”
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The Braun deal makes little sense. The Brewers take an extra $105M salary risk with no real time pressure to do so. I guess an earlier poster was correct in saying they must really believe salaries will significantly increase.
I’m not sure Pulp Fiction is a ganster movie, but it is one of my very favorites.
If Posada continues to struggle, do the Yankees add someone or do they use Chavez much more and hope his health tolerates it?
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