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Martin starts day game after night game

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 24, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner LF

 
 

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126 Responses to “Martin starts day game after night game”

  1. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Let the Girardi bashing start for playing Martin today, a day game after night game and getting hit……

  2. jacksquat April 24th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    “Rupe insists pitch to Martin was accidental”

    Pants on fire…

  3. Fran the original April 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    I expected Martin to play today because he is on fire and you never want to sit when you are hitting so well.

    Happy Easter to all of you who celebrate.

  4. Rich in NJ April 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    If Martin and those western medicine practitioners think his body can withstand more PT, I”m fine with it.

  5. Tar April 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    I guess because of the off days everybody is playing.

    But I would have liked to see Nunez and Chavez get a start.

  6. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Fran, I disagree. The manager has to think about his player’s health and what’s best for him – and given Martin’s health history and the fact that he plays a very demanding position, I just don’t get Joe.

  7. ericns1 April 24th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Guess you go with the hot hand – would like to give him rest though.

  8. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Also, Rupe? I don’t buy what you’re selling, gutless idiot

  9. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    “But I would have liked to see Nunez and Chavez get a start,”

    My guess is they will get to play a couple of times in the next 16 days as there are no off days, unless there are rainouts. Same goes for Cervelli when he joins the team later the coming week.

  10. Madrugador April 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    First things first. I have been a Yankee fan since the days of Horace Clark and Jerry Kenney so don’t misunderstand this but some of these guys are hitting home runs like never before. Russell Marting most home runs in a season, 19. Jorge Posada average home runs 23 between 2000-2007. He did poke 30 in 2003. Maybe Martin is healthy for the first time in a long time and maybe his post season work outs are really paying dividends but you shouldn’t expect a 39 year old player to hit the most home runs of their career in what may be the last year that they play.
    What is going on here?

  11. Shame Spencer April 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Tar – I’m more concerned with Martin’s health long term. I love that he’s been in almost every inning.. I just find myself worrying if by August he’ll break down.

    As long as he keeps making me forget to worry by hitting home runs I guess I’ll survive the uncertainty :D

  12. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    What’s not to get? Martin had three off days this week, if he’s okay after being hit then he plays as he’ll get another offday on Tuesday or Wednesday.

  13. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    “What is going on here?”

    Diuted pitching talent with too many teams with expansions.
    Smaller ballparks.

  14. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Martin has had a lot of rest this week….normally they wouldn’t play him today but he was off Monday, Thursday, and Friday.

    Interested to see how Garcia follows up his last start today…

  15. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    By the way, the lineup could change after Girardi talks to the trainers and Martin. The lineup is three hours before game time so plenty of time to change it.

  16. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Repost

    CB, That’s why somebody needs to step up and show that intentional or not…..that crap isn’t going to be tolerated.

  17. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    So we’re supposed to believe that Alex and Jeter were never and are not now friends? Right, lol………..well, just another book to consign to the trash bin. O’Connor is a complete hack.

  18. Madrugador April 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    same diluted pitching and same ballparks as last year.

  19. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Blake, it should have happened yesterday.

  20. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    The Yanks play 15 straight days starting today…..16 counting yesterday. Perhaps the days off could be better served in the middle of that span.

  21. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Regarding Martin:

    He just had two days off with the rainout…. So, he is not taxed.
    Cervelli will be back latest by Thursday.
    Then Martin will get at least a day off every week or five days.
    Giradri knows better about his team unlike certain arm-chair pundits here.

  22. Fran the original April 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Betsy,

    I’m sure that Joe checks with the players and feels Martin is ok to go. The Yanks just had 2 days off. He can sit Martin later on in the week. Besides by then, Cervelli may be back.

  23. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Betsy,

    I think.had CC been left in then it would have been…..

  24. Against All Odds April 24th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    # Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    So we’re supposed to believe that Alex and Jeter were never and are not now friends? Right, lol………..well, just another book to consign to the trash bin. O’Connor is a complete hack.

    —————————————

    I’ll never forget what he did to get an interview with the Boss a couple of yrs ago.

  25. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Just looking at the schedule …..the Yanks have 1 off day between now and May 26 and only 2 before June. Big stretch of games coming up.

  26. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    “same diluted pitching and same ballparks as last year.”

    I thought you were comparing to the days of Horace Clark.
    Yes, there is a spike early this season, but I think over the full season it will even out as Pitchers gain arm strength.

  27. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    As to last night, Buck is trying to out-Madden Madden; we know what happened in ST to Cervelli and now Buck is trying to teach his kids to win by being macho punks. Well Rupe wasn’t macho – he was a total wimp doing what he did. He stinks – obviously knew he couldn’t get Martin out. As Singleton said several times last night, WEAK.

    Odds, that’s right – absolutely disgusting. It’s too bad that now we’re going to hear bad things about Alex again and how Jeter/Alex are not really friends anymore. Fantastic.

  28. NYY626 - Retire 46 April 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Oh they were definitely friends. Jeter gushed about Alex in his book and they used to get teased all the time about their sleepovers ( which in retrospect, is kinda funny). All that matters is that they are friends now, and have been for years. Nice article to come out on Easter Sunday :/

  29. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Blake, Buddy Carlyle is too mediocre I suppose to even bother trying something like that, but now IMO it’s too late. The game is over and done with……..

  30. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Judging from the article in the NY Post, Jeter/Arod are friendly now.

  31. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Well obviously this book is going to portray the opposite and that they aren’t friends now………..O’Connor makes my skin crawl

  32. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Betsy,

    Its not too late at all….these things often aren’t dealt with in the same game.

  33. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    “Blake, Buddy Carlyle is too mediocre I suppose to even bother trying something like that, but now IMO it’s too late. The game is over and done with……..”

    Baseball players don’t ever think it’s too late. Their mentality is quite different from fans such as us, who have never played the game at that level.

  34. Rich in NJ April 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    When it comes to HBP near the head, it really doesn’t matter if someone says it was purposeful, because they always say it wasn’t.

    The point is that it’s reckless, i.e., a conscious disregard of a known risk.

    If you can’t command the ball inside, don’t throw it inside.

    So let them deny it. There still needs to be a message sent in response.

  35. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    “Well obviously this book is going to portray the opposite and that they aren’t friends now……….”

    Again, not true according to the excerpts.

  36. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Blake, then they run the risk of starting a brawl (and getting someone hurt) or getting tossed

  37. Rich in NJ April 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    I don’t care whether or not Jeter and A-Rod are friends. The only thing I care about is on the field performance.

  38. Against All Odds April 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    # Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    As to last night, Buck is trying to out-Madden Madden; we know what happened in ST to Cervelli and now Buck is trying to teach his kids to win by being macho punks. Well Rupe wasn’t macho – he was a total wimp doing what he did. He stinks – obviously knew he couldn’t get Martin out. As Singleton said several times last night, WEAK.

    Odds, that’s right – absolutely disgusting. It’s too bad that now we’re going to hear bad things about Alex again and how Jeter/Alex are not really friends anymore. Fantastic.

    —————————————————

    The media loves to rehash the Jeter/A-rod thing. Both guys have moved on but the MSM feels it would be better to bring it up every chance they get. SMH. God forbid they don’t have a story to write about every day.

  39. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    “Blake, then they run the risk of starting a brawl (and getting someone hurt) or getting tossed”

    No warnings have been given and the Orioles are fully aware that payback is going to come.

  40. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Craw, I just saw it mentioned that the book is about a “fake” Alex/Jeter friendship……..I hope you are right.

  41. yankee21 April 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    ..I don’t care whether or not Jeter and A-Rod are friends. The only thing I care about is on the field performance…

    For sure, it is a total “who gives a flying rip” story line.

  42. Tar April 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    What Rich said.

  43. CB April 24th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    (repost):

    for me and a lot of these guys on this team, I pitch in. That’s what I do when I’m coming out of the ‘pen.

    So Josh Rupe says that he’s a Showalter guy and pitches “in.”

    Last night Rupe threw 23 pitches.

    The catcher set up on the inside part of the plate on only 5 of those 23 pitches – 2 of which were to Nunez.

    Of those 5 pitches where the catcher was set up inside – Rupe threw to the inside part of the plate on 4 pitches.

    Prior to Martin getting hit, Rupe had thrown 13 pitches. The catcher had set up on the inside part of the plate on 2 of those 13 pitches.

    Martin was hit on pitch 14. The catcher was set up on the inner half that pitch but not on the extreme inside corner (and the target was down). Rupe didn’t try to really aggressively jam any hitter all night.

    Rupe’s claim that he hit Martin just due to his aggressive nature of “pitching in” is just plain false. He’s full of it. All night last night he worked Yankee hitters away most likely because he was scared of giving them anything they could pull out of the park.

    The book on Alex Rodriguez is to pitch him in to prevent him from extending his hands. And even then the catcher set up inside on Alex on only one pitch.

    Rupe’s entire game plan was to work hitters away, away, away.

    Showalter may or may not have ordered Rupe to hit Martin. But either way Buck’s act is tired. He’s trying to build this faux machismo culture down in Baltimore to stamp his “imprint” on the team and it’s just silly and embarrassing because they are terrible and can’t back it up.

    Buck’s got one of his relief pitcher’s claiming that he hit a guy who’s taken the O’s deep twice because he’s an aggressive relief pitcher who claims the inside of the plate when in fact that pitcher wanted nothing to do with the inside part of the plate all night.

    Just lame, embarrassing excuses which match their level of play despite the managers bluster.

  44. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Odds, it’s stupid. I’m personallly glad that they are friends again, but even if they weren’t – who cares?

    Craw, again, I hope you’re right. The whole mentality of baseball – throwing at a guy because his teammate hits a HR – is weak. Throwing at someone’s head is downright inexcusable and I’m looking forward to someone on the Yankees teaching someone on the Orioles a lesson.

  45. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    “Craw, I just saw it mentioned that the book is about a “fake” Alex/Jeter friendship……..I hope you are right.”

    That was mentioned in the book when ARod first got to the Yankees and when things were bad between them. They have both moved on from those times.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Martin is young, perfectly healthy and hot. I’m glad to see Girardi actually caring about winning games by putting his best lineup on the field.

  47. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    CB, I completely agree on Buck…………..

  48. Against All Odds April 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Odds, it’s stupid. I’m personallly glad that they are friends again, but even if they weren’t – who cares?

    ————————————————

    Yea I’m glad they’re friends again too. It’s dumb to hold grudges when life is so short.

  49. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    If Girardi didn’t care about winning games then he shouldn’t be Yankee manager.

  50. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Craw, back then I could definitely understand awkwardness between them. I didn’t think Jeter handled his captainship very well because, despite his feelings for Alex, he needed to treat him like everyone else. I guess Alex saying they weren’t close anymore allowed the relationship to breathe again, though I’m not sure exactly why that was the case. I’m sort of a baseball romantic and I like happy endings, so although I hardly think about their friendship, I’m still glad they are friends.

  51. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    CB, good analysis.
    I think if the game is one-sided today, somebdoy will get plunked.

  52. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    He didn’t care about winning games late last year

  53. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Easier said than done treating everyone the same especially when it comes to a very personal situation between two people.

  54. CB April 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    blake,

    It’s nonsense and needs to stop.

    Even in the first inning Andino pushes Tex in the back on the tag though Tex easily slides in safely on his double. And then Andino starts jawing at Tex.

    It’s this whole superficial culture that Buck is trying to rig down there. Tex hits a rope off your pitcher and you’re going to jaw at him when he gets to second? And then Alex hits an absolute rope into the gap.

    Just embarrassing.

    And Buck’s platitudes abut playing the game the “right way” make it even worse.

  55. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    “He didn’t care about winning games late last year”

    He cared, but not to the level some fans feel he should have been.

  56. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    I did not know that Donnie faked it with Boggs – I thought they did become friends after Wade joined the team. I wish I didn’t know that.

  57. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Tolerating somebody doesn’t mean your friends.

  58. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    CB,

    It goes back even before Buck as well with guys like Guthrie last hear who had no idea where the ball was going and still recklessly threw inside and then claimed it was unintentional.

    The best way to get respect is to not suck.

  59. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Buck’s last comment in that Post article is interesting, but he could also have said that Alex understands Jeter. Real friendship is a two way street……Jeter is a very good guy and I love him, but just like anyone else, he’s not perfect.

  60. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Most of us work with certain individuals we don’t really care for, but we tolerate them as co-workers. The same applies to ballplayers, who generally spend more time together than what we do with our co-workers.

  61. mick April 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Giradri knows better about his team unlike certain arm-chair pundits here.
    ================
    And you know who you are….feeling froggy, write a book.

  62. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Craw, I know, but I remember reading that they did become friends. Of course maybe they did later and Donnie just faked it earlier…………who knows. There are some things I’d rather not know – guess I don’t mind being an ostrich with her head in the sand at times, lol

  63. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Betsy,

    Buck and Arod aren’t exactly cozy so how would he know how much Alex understands Jeter.

  64. Bo knows April 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Anyone mention that the strike zone was totally weird last night. Understandable for the first five innings due to forecast rain, but it continued all game. First game in a long time where the strike zone was “in the vicinity”.

  65. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Blake, if I recall, they never retaliated against Guthrie

  66. Tar April 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I don’t mind Martin playing so much because of the off days, his hot bat and I think he needs to catch Garcia. Also Molina is not really part of this team.

    I do think Joe needs to find more playing time for Nunez and Chavez, as they are definitely going to be needed over the long haul.

    Alex should DH, and Jeter should get some days off— soon.

    I really liked that Tex totally ignored Andino and his mouth. It was like Tex was saying you are insignificant, don’t even bother talking to me.

  67. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Well, one whining kid just woke up :)

  68. mick April 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I did not know that Donnie faked it with Boggs
    ==================
    Donnie was fakin it?
    Fake, fake…fake fake

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Ridiculous that some fans are encouraging a Yankee pitcher to intentionally hit someone. I guess if they put the player out for the season they’ll be happy. Gardner payed that debt – we don’t need ejections, a possible brawl, an injury, or suspensions.

  70. BIG AL April 24th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Martin didn’t play for 3 days this week, now the doom and gloom crowd will claim Girardi is over using him, what trash.

    It seems those that have the least knowledge, cry the loudest.

  71. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    “Craw, I know, but I remember reading that they did become friends. Of course maybe they did later and Donnie just faked it earlier…………who knows.”

    Betsy,

    That’s true until we know the full context of Donnie’s comments we really don’t know whether they’re friends now or not.

  72. mick April 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Who cares who’s friends with who?
    You.

  73. CB April 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    “The best way to get respect is to not suck.”

    Lol. Exactly.

    He’s been trying to get the O’s to play with a chip on their shoulder as if that chip were going to make them a better team.

    The O’s don’t play the game the “right way.” That’s the fact. Gutherie’s pitching last year was just bush league. Rupe last night. And for him to then try to play the Bob Gibson card afterwards makes the whole thing even more of a joke.

    No O’s pitcher worked the yankees inside last night. Not one. And there was an obvious reason why – none of them had the command to do so. None of them trusted their stuff to throw the ball in a spot where the yankees could pull the ball.

    It wasn’t old school baseball at all. It was very contemporary baseball that’s trying to lacquer itself up as something it’s not.

    And in Baltimore that seems to start with the manager.

  74. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    I always thought WCYF was my friend.

  75. blake April 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Perfect outcome of todays game would be for the Yanks to pound and humilate Orioles pitching again, Garcia throw another solid game, then have Joba come in after the game is in hand and put one in Roberts, Markakis, or Jones rib cage at 96……the Os pitchers need to be held accountable for their actions whether its intentional or not.

  76. mick April 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    mick says:
    April 24, 2011 at 9:13 am
    • Girardi said he wasn’t sure whether Martin would play tomorrow. My guess would be no — strictly a guess — but Girardi said he was going to sleep on it.
    ===========================================
    And the reason for this is what?
    3 days off this week , not enough.
    Molina is Freddy’s personal catcher?
    Afraid of a brawl?
    Farewell gift for GMo?

    ————

    Day game after a night game.
    ===================
    Let Martin play.
    Wait for the right time to hit an Oriole.
    See how simple it is…

  77. Bo knows April 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Gardner’s at bats are still a work in progress but I do like the developing setup. He is a strong little guy and going forward double digit HRs are pretty well a given with his new approach. There is enough power there and he did have five HRs last year prior to the injury.

  78. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Yeah, I get that Craw, but clearly that statement was placed at the end of the article for a reason – and it’s to focus on Alex’s perceived foibles. People who are friends each understand how the other is. In any case, in the scheme of things, the books is really nothing and very likely will tell us nothing new. I’d just like to re-start the book I’d picked up 2 months ago, lol

  79. BBFan April 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    I think if they pick one to hit, it will be thier catcher.

  80. mick April 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    And in Baltimore that seems to start with the manager.
    ====================================
    Buck is overrated.
    He can’t keep a job and they win the year after he leaves.

  81. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Blake, that would be a perfect scenario – hope it plays out like that.

  82. mick April 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    It seems those that have the least knowledge, cry the loudest.
    =========================================
    Seems that way…

  83. Against All Odds April 24th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    # Bo knows April 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Anyone mention that the strike zone was totally weird last night. Understandable for the first five innings due to forecast rain, but it continued all game. First game in a long time where the strike zone was “in the vicinity”.

    ——————————————-

    I was watching some of the Met game yesterday and the strike zone was worse. The ball was practically in the other box. Are these umpires in a rush to go somewhere.

  84. Carlo April 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Just win the game and don’t bother getting into an unnecessary brawl with a team that has nothing to play for. The orioles are exactly the type of team u don’t escalate these matters with.

  85. BIG AL April 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Have a great day folks – later.

  86. Fran the original April 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    The Yanks have a lot more games left with the O’s. They don’t have to retaliate today. Sometimes it’s more effective to wait and keep them guessing. Keep them on edge the next series waiting for the brush back.

    Meanwhile, let their bats do the talking today.

  87. blake April 24th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Carlo,

    You aren’t trying to start a brawl….you’re trying to make it clear to the Orioles that they can’t put Yankee players in jeopardy and it go unchecked. What if the next time.one of these guys “tries to go inside ” it breaks Arod’s wrist heaven forbid. You do it so that they think twice about coming in there if they can’t command their stuff or if it was intentional they think twice about doing it again.

  88. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Put one in someone’s ribs at 96? Really.

  89. mick April 24th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Fran is the voice of reason.
    Stow the football mentality.
    Remember a Joba never forgets and…
    again for the uninitiated,
    Revenge is a dish best served cold.
    We have bigger fish to fry…

  90. mick April 24th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Carlo,

    You aren’t trying to start a brawl….you’re trying to make it clear to the Orioles that they can’t put Yankee players in jeopardy and it go unchecked.
    =================================
    blake

    you need to calm down.

  91. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    I’m everyone’s friend Crawfish. : )

  92. 108 stitches April 24th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Fran the original April 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am
    The Yanks have a lot more games left with the O’s. They don’t have to retaliate today. Sometimes it’s more effective to wait and keep them guessing. Keep them on edge the next series waiting for the brush back.

    Meanwhile, let their bats do the talking today.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Exactly right. Let them fester until the Yankees return to Camden Yards on May 18-19.
    Cervelli will be back sooner than later so keeping Martin in his hot mode is the way to go.
    Today the bullpen can go full throttle if necessary.

  93. Bret The Hitman April 24th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    When Cervelli returns, you could make an argument that:

    1)Russell Martin is the best all-around catcher in baseball
    2)Francisco Cervelli is the top backup catcher
    3)Jesus Montero is the best catching prospect in the minors
    4)With Martin, Cervelli, Montero, Romine and Sanchez, the Yankees have the most catching depth in all of baseball…by a longshot
    5)The Red Sox catching situation is the opposite of 1-4 above

  94. UnKnown April 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    I like having Martin in there today. I think Joe knows Cervelli is coming back a lot sooner then anyone thinks and then will have no problems sitting Martin in a situation like today. Might even give Martin two days in a row at times.

    However, the current situation has just to much of a drop off in the catcher position when you go with Molina. Plus Martin looks vibrant and very fresh.

    Nice decision by Joe, go for the Sweep.

  95. Bo knows April 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    The best thing about the Martin signing is that there is more ammunition re Cashman’s lack of management skills. Between Swisher and Martin and the pitching patch job looks like high end managing to me.

    Did I mention that Gonzalez and Gardner have the same amount of HRs?

  96. blake April 24th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Mick,

    Im calm buddy….having a wonderful day so far. Just don’t want to see a key Yankee player get injured because the Orioles want respect.

  97. Bret The Hitman April 24th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Cashman still gets an F for the starting staff. He was lukewarm on Danny Haren despite Haren’s track record. There’s no possible way to add a starter of Haren’s caliber at last year’s asking price. The offense is great. The bullpen, stellar. But Cashman has his work cut out for him with the starting staff. I want to see Cashman bring Sizemore here and Gio Gonzalez at the deadline. Then I will retract my harsh stance against him. Maybe he has a plan. I hope so. I can only imagine Montero and the killer B’s will boost their trade value even higher as they master the minors.

  98. Giuseppe Franco April 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    If Cervelli plays like he did last season, he’s not even close to being the best backup catcher.

    If he plays like he did in 2009, he’ll be fine.

    People seem to forget how bad Cervelli really was last season. His overall game took a huge dive from 2009.

  99. blake April 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Have a great Easter everyone!

  100. Carlo April 24th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Blake – I worry more about retaliation spurning more retaliation and then your scenario playing out. I don’t think Baltimore pitchers will say “hey, rupe drilled martin and they didn’t retaliate so now I can drill a bunch of guys too.” I don’t think pitchers think that way.

  101. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Cashman made a terrible mistake in assuming Lee was his, but please – Sizemore? To replace who? Gonzalez is a good pitcher, but please tell me why on earth the A’s would trade any of their pitchers when they can win that division.

  102. Giuseppe Franco April 24th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    # West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Martin is young, perfectly healthy and hot. I’m glad to see Girardi actually caring about winning games by putting his best lineup on the field.

    ———-

    Aren’t you the same guy who didn’t think Molina making the team out of ST was a big deal when others like myself and Jerkface were opposed to the idea?

    Now Martin has to play everyday so they can “put their best lineup on the field?”

    Sounds like a flip-flop to me.

  103. Betsy April 24th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Blake, you too!!!

  104. pat April 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    The Yankee/Jeter dynamic in the Post article getting some exposure is much more interesting than the Derek/Alex dynamic which is old news.

    Coincidence that Cashman was on blast during Derek’s negotiations this off season because Derek’s agent was selling the millions that should be added for leadership? Some Yankee officials had been seething about Derek’s willingness or unwillingness to “lead” when they asked him to for years.

  105. BoJo April 24th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    I’d like to chime in on throwing at the Os in retaliation. Sure, I’d like to see Joba throw at an O today, but I’d prefer it if he threw at Buck when he visits the mound. No one would be expecting that….yeah.

  106. raymagnetic April 24th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Cervelli had a .359 OBP last season. Was there a backup catcher in baseball who made less outs than Cervelli?

    I doubt it.

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Giuseppe Franco – one of your weakest attempts at gratuitous fight-picking ever. As I said back then, Molina was, is and always will be a stop gap, temporary insurance policy.

  108. Giuseppe Franco April 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    # West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Giuseppe Franco – one of your weakest attempts at gratuitous fight-picking ever. As I said back then, Molina was, is and always will be a stop gap, temporary insurance policy.

    ———-

    Some of us didn’t want him on the team because he’s not a major leaguer.

    But, again, now you claim Martin has to play everyday so Molina doesn’t see the field – even against the hapless Orioles.

    One can only imagine how much you would be whining about Molina getting playing time if the Yanks hadn’t had to deal with three rainouts in the early going.

    I don’t need to pick any fights with you. You hang yourself constantly with your own words.

  109. cs in la April 24th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I dont know why everyone is excited to have Cervelli back. Do you remember how awful he was second half of last year?

  110. tyanksfan36 April 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    I think the whole thing with Molina being awful so they have to put Martin out there everyday is stupid. They rested Jeter and Arod last year and put Pena out there every time and he can’t hit. They’re playing Martin because he is fine, they just had 2 days off.

  111. LGY April 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    So my nightmares last night of seeing Imposter Molina swing the bat were for nothing??

  112. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Giuseppe Franco April 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Some of us didn’t want him on the team because he’s not a major leaguer.

    ***************

    It shows what you know, he is a major leaguer. That’s a fact.

    And I never said Martin has to play every day. Why do you intentionally distort things? If a player is beat or injured you rest them. That is not the case today with Martin. That is what I meant by putting your best team on the field every day. Obviously, that doesn’t mean players who need the time off for physical reasons.

  113. Joe from Long Island April 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Good morning. Just finished brunch at home, and now catching up a bit.

    Happy Easter to all who celebrate, and good Sunday to everyone else.

    Guys, don’t be surprised if nothing happens in today’s game. Depending on a whole host of things, including game situation, things may be left for later in the season. But, ballplayers have long memories.

    Judging on Runge’s no-warning last night, if Garcia does a HBP, then they may let it go. I don’t know, but, I think these sort of things get worked out by the players at some point. Martin seems to be very well liked by the team.

  114. Tar April 24th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    “because Derek’s agent was selling the millions that should be added for leadership?”

    Pat

    I am not sure that was what his agent was trying to sell.

    I think it was more bottom line profits that he adds to the organization, in addition to his on the field play.

  115. Niblick April 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    To all of you in a panic about Martin playing a day game after a night game:

    He’s played a total of 16 games in 24 days. That’s a lot of rest. Even for a catcher who was injured last year.

  116. Giuseppe Franco April 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Last week you were annoyed that Girardi sat Martin against the Red Sox, so you obviously think Martin is fine and should be playing everyday. That’s the only game this season he hasn’t played.

    40 ABs over a 9 yr career doesn’t make Molina a major leaguer. Only means he’s played in the majors.

    Molina was never good enough to stay for any length of time – not even as a backup catcher – a position just about every team is looking to upgrade.

  117. mick April 24th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    There is no need for a super BUC on this team.
    The next catcher is at AAA if needed.
    For now what is the differnce between cervelli or molina?
    Much ado about nuthin.

  118. 108 stitches April 24th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    If Cervelli remembers what he learned from Kevin Long in early ST, he’ll be a better backup than in 2010. Until he got hurt in early March, it was noticeable that his batting stance had changed by holding his bat further back to generate more power from seeing the ball slightly longer.
    He was also drilled especially hard by Tony Pena as soon as he arrived in ST.
    He knows that Montero looms in the background but will do his damndest to stay a Yankee.

  119. LGY April 24th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Real team leaders are not really tested until they have to deal with someone they do not like or get along with.

  120. BoJo April 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    I’d be very happy with a Yankee catching combo of Martin/Cervelli for the next 3 years. I think Cervelli will hit better after his work with Cano, and I think he is a very good defensive catcher when not over-worked. Remember, he jumped from AA to majors without a lot of development time, and still is improving.

    The kid has one thing you can’t teach–desire.

  121. West Coast Yankee Fan April 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Giuseppe Franco April 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Last week you were annoyed that Girardi sat Martin against the Red Sox, so you obviously think Martin is fine and should be playing everyday. That’s the only game this season he hasn’t played.

    You obviously don’t understand the difference between number of games played and when you play them. As Niblick pointed out above, Martin has played a total of 16 games in 24 days.

    You also don’t understand the difference between a backup catcher, i.e., Cervelli and a stop-gap, temporary catcher like Molina who was just here for a few weeks insurance.

  122. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Is Martin playing today after having three offdays in the last seven days really worth this argument?

    He’s going to sit sometime this week probably either Tuesday or Wednesday. What’s the big deal?

  123. Crawdaddy April 24th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Matter of fact, Martin might sit next a game next weekend too so he’ll have two offdays this week.

  124. David in Cal April 24th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Bo knows April 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am
    Anyone mention that the strike zone was totally weird last night. Understandable for the first five innings due to forecast rain, but it continued all game. First game in a long time where the strike zone was “in the vicinity”.
    ———————————————————–
    Yes, that seemed to be a very wide strike zone on both sides of the plate. At least, the ump was consistent for both teams and throughout the game.

    BTW while I was watching on mlb.com, nobody mentioned the wind. On account of all the HRs, I assume the wind was blowing out.

  125. Tar April 24th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    “Real team leaders are not really tested until they have to deal with someone they do not like or get along with”

    Do you remember Thurman and Reggie? :D

  126. LGY April 24th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    :arrow:

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