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Hughes waiting for test results, plus a lineup

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 26, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Phil Hughes had two MRIs and some
vascular tests this morning, but he hasn’t heard any results. He’s scheduled for more tests tomorrow as the Yankees try to rule out everything or find out something.

About 15 minutes ago, Jorge Posada, Brett Gardner, Derek Jeter, Andruw Jones and Nick Swisher went onto the field with Kevin Long for a little early batting practice. Looked like A.J. Burnett in the outfield doing some long toss with bullpen catcher Roman Rodriguez.

Here’s the lineup. Gustavo Molina and Eric Chavez are starting.

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Eric Chavez 3B
Brett Gardner LF
Gustavo Molina C

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80 Responses to “Hughes waiting for test results, plus a lineup”

  1. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    2 MRIs and a vascular exam and he has yet more tests?

  2. Mell April 26th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Vascular exam? Is that to check for clots?

  3. 108 stitches April 26th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    re-post

    Tonight is a telling game for Ivan Nova. Does he or doesn’t he belong in the rotation ? Will he or won’t he show he can throw a quality start for 6+ innings ?
    With the Hughes question, it’s more important now that Nova shows what his potential is.

  4. NYYROC April 26th, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Fingers crossed for Hughes!

  5. Shame Spencer April 26th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Mell – I would assume so. Not sure how much we can read into that information, I think at this point they’re just checking everything to be safe.

  6. Erin April 26th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    According to Carig, it was 4 hours of tests. That does not sound like a very fun way to spend a day. :(

  7. Mell April 26th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Tonight is a telling game for Ivan Nova. Does he or doesn’t he belong in the rotation ? Will he or won’t he show he can throw a quality start for 6+ innings ?

    ============

    Law of averages say the White Sox are due to start raking, but right now they can’t fall out of a boat and hit water. If Nova doesn’t enjoy a reasonably successful start tonight, it wouldn’t be surprising to me if the team looked to Millwood to see what he has.

  8. Abe Peterham April 26th, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Im guessing they didnt do these tesst initially to not give him the ‘placebo effect’ w symptoms, not planting any bad seeds in his mind.
    but vascular is obviously blood flow and or clot studies.
    And could strengthening exercises have exacerbated anything?

    looks like Gus is gonna represent before Cisco shows up..

  9. joeman April 26th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    two for me..

    Nova won’t make it thru the 5th inning

    can’t the WS have a Lefty pitching so I don’t have to see Gardner go 0-4-4

  10. pat April 26th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    2 MRIs likely means at least 1 involved contrast. Not a pleasant day for him.

  11. austinmac April 26th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Betances is set to pitch on Thursday per Mike Ashmore.

  12. Warning Track Power April 26th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Congrats to Gustavo for making the starting line-up tonight.
    Good call by Girardi. Martin needs a rest and tonight is the perfect time.

    Chavez has been hitting so well, I think his name in the line-up only makes us better.

  13. Tar April 26th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Pat

    Or maybe they were on two different parts of the arm?

    I know when they did one on my ankle, they did it slightly too low, which meant I had to go back for another one.

  14. Mike in Harrisburg April 26th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Aneurysm?

  15. Warning Track Power April 26th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    I’m listening to Michael Kay right now in the hopes his show has breaking news on the MRI results.

    At this point I would not rule out anything.

    I wonder if Coney experienced similar symptoms to what Hughes has described??

  16. JoeyA April 26th, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I wasn’t going to give my 2 cents because I’m not a medical expert, but my aunt is a doctor, as well as a Yankee fan…

    She has been saying for a bit now that it’s possible it’s a blood clot. They obviously aren’t painful and do affect overall energy, especially in a centralized location i.e. shoulder or arm as a whole.

  17. Mike in Harrisburg April 26th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    From 1996 NYT article –

    “Hershon said doctors had been gathering and interpreting information and dealing with a circulation problem that was first diagnosed on April 27. Cone felt tingling in his pitching hand after throwing five innings on a cold day in Milwaukee on April 17. Five days later, he had trouble gripping the ball during a game at Kansas City.”

    So more specific than Phil’s “symptoms.”

  18. Warning Track Power April 26th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Leiter is on the Kay show right now and he’s offering his advice regarding Hughes’ injury.

  19. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    I’m hoping that Phil will get what most people would call a “clean” report.

    Basically saying there is no structural damage or circulatory problem.

    That would be the best case scenario.

    That would leave tendonitis as the main explanation.

    Tendonitis can be cured fairly easily with anti-inflammatory medication and rest.

  20. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    WTP-

    What is Leiter saying ?

  21. Warning Track Power April 26th, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Leiter is sharing similar stories in his career where his arm felt “dead” or the times when he would warm up before a game and he felt like he had “nothing” to offer that day.

    He also mentioned that some pitcher’s are just destined to have injuries because of how they throw.
    He said there are times when Phil Hughes delivers the ball just a little short and that might not be very healthy for his arm.

  22. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    WTP-

    thanks.

    The hearsay on Hughes was always that his Mechanics were near perfect, and that he wouldn’t be susceptible to arm injuries because of it.

    Strange that Leiter would say different.

  23. pat April 26th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

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  24. Erin April 26th, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Ledger_Yankees “I don’t want them walking around like SpiderMan.” – Girardi on sending players for too many MRIs

    :lol:

  25. stuckey99 April 26th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    “The hearsay on Hughes was always that his Mechanics were near perfect, and that he wouldn’t be susceptible to arm injuries because of it.”

    He generally does, but his does not get ideal extension of his arm during it’s backwards rotation.

    Short means he goes maybe 80-90% back than pitchers with longer extension and his elbow is a little more bent when he begins the forward rotation.

    Not unusual. But there. Look at replays of his. He doesn’t lean as far back as other pitchers. The right side of his body stays more parallel to the rubber.

  26. justinxdance27 April 26th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    # austinmac April 26th, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Betances is set to pitch on Thursday per Mike Ashmore.

    ———————-
    For Trenton?

  27. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    That’s right Joe. It’s better to just keep ‘em in the dark, or better yet just keep ‘em guessing.

    MRI’s cost about $1000 bucks and depending take about 1/2 an hour.

    There is no risk of radiation exposure.

    So sure. That makes sense. Not.

  28. Chad Jennings April 26th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Just to clarify, Hughes had one MRI on his shoulder and one on his elbow. He said the elbow MRI was miserable, 35 minutes in a tube with his arm up over his head. The vascular tests were about blow flow — obviously — and included one that was similar to taking his blood pressure all along his arm. Girardi said the doctors are simply trying to rule out everything. That’s why there are more tests scheduled for tomorrow. If today’s tests don’t give any answers, they’ll try more stuff tomorrow.

  29. Patrick April 26th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    There is no pitcher that is immune to arm injuries. I don’t care how perfect the mechanics are, a pitcher will always be susceptible to arm injuries. Throwing a baseball is an unnatural motion

  30. Erin April 26th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    RiverAveBlues Ok, ok. I think I get it. Joe Girardi is just worried that this is going to happen to tonight?s starter after an MRI: http://bit.ly/hbdKld

  31. Chad Jennings April 26th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Also, for whatever it’s worth, I was covering Ian Kennedy when he had his aneurysm. His symptoms were nothing at all like what Hughes is experiencing. Not saying it should be ruled out — they have to check it, obviously — but that’s my only experience dealing with a pitcher who had a significant blood-flow issue, and it’s hard to draw any connections between the two situations.

  32. Giuseppe Franco April 26th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    I had a blood clot about 18 months ago. They can be painful.

    Perhaps not all blood clots are painful, but they are NOT always painless.

  33. Erin April 26th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Chad Jennings April 26th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    Just to clarify, Hughes had one MRI on his shoulder and one on his elbow. He said the elbow MRI was miserable, 35 minutes in a tube with his arm up over his head.

    **********************
    Ugh. Poor guy.

    Thanks for the info Chad

  34. Giuseppe Franco April 26th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    If I remember correctly, both Kennedy and Cone had a significant amount of numbness in their fingers/hands.

    I seem to recall Cone saying that his fingers were blue.

  35. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    GF-

    You are indeed correct Sir.

    :)

  36. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    I ,for one, am glad the Yankees are being thorough.

    Sounds like we might know something in a couple of days.

  37. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    If its tendonitis like MTU said he had, then it would make sense the symptom re-occurred. You need to rest for like a couple of weeks right? They gave him some medicine and then had him throwing in like 3 days.

  38. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Correct jerkface.

    Complete shutdown is required until the full course of Anti-inflammatoires is completed.

    In my case, that was 2 weeks.

    Throwing would be counter productive before then.

  39. michaels07 April 26th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Why not bench Gardner, play Jones

  40. stuckey99 April 26th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    “Why not bench Gardner, play Jones”

    Because players don’t sit there way outta funks.

  41. Giuseppe Franco April 26th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Gardner is going to sit tomorrow anyways.

  42. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    This might be the best lineup, substituting Martin for Molina of course.

    Girardi could rotate the DH between Tex, ARod, Chavez and Jeter perhaps Playing ARod at SS when Jeter DH’s. Crazier things have happened. :-)

  43. jankees27 April 26th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    White Sox lineup:

    Pierre LF
    Ramirez SS
    Quentin RF
    Konerko 1B
    Dunn DH
    Rios CF
    Pierzynski C
    Beckham 2B
    Morel 3B

    Floyd P

  44. West Coast Yankee Fan April 26th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Even though Kevin Millwood has won both of his minor league starts and posted a 1.29 ERA, scouts say he doesn’t look very good. Millwood, whose fastball is averaging 85 mph, can opt out of his contact with the Yankees this Sunday. — MLBTR

  45. Giuseppe Franco April 26th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    You’re not going to see A-Rod play SS again. Not unless something freakish happens and they have no SS left for whatever the reason.

    A-Rod has even said he doesn’t want to go back to SS.

  46. 108 stitches April 26th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Patrick April 26th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    There is no pitcher that is immune to arm injuries. I don’t care how perfect the mechanics are, a pitcher will always be susceptible to arm injuries. Throwing a baseball is an unnatural motion
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    This is true and only the rare ones like Ryan and Seaver among others were able to avoid it.
    They had strong legs to push off the mound and take some strain off elbows and shoulders for their lengthy careers.

  47. Irreverent Discourse April 26th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    lol you think Jeter is bad at SS now? Stick A-Rod over there 8 years removed from full time duty… no one will complain about Jeter anymore.

  48. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    JF-

    I could be completely wrong but my theory is that the Yankees may have mistook Tendonitis for the much more normal “tired arm”.

    In their defense, They are not Drs. and go by experience. It might not be easy for a lay person to distinguish the 2.

    If you’ve ever had tendonitis you know the difference from fatigue.

    Moreover, Phil has a “history’ of reduced velocity in the Spring.

    Therefore they were not alarmed.

    Phil reported no pain. Which he wouldn’t with certain forms of tendonitis.

    Unfortunately, If I am correct in my theory they prescribed actions that would be good for tired arm but very counter productive for tendonitis.

    One requires use and strengthening, and the other requires medicine and rest.

    We’ll know soon.

  49. Bronx Jeers April 26th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    “Cage Ra” excerpts.

    Introduction by ARod

    http://www.harpercollins.com/b.....0062079039

  50. yclept April 26th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    108 stitches April 26th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    This is true and only the rare ones like Ryan and Seaver among others were able to avoid it.
    They had strong legs to push off the mound and take some strain off elbows and shoulders for their lengthy careers.
    —–
    And even Ryan had an arm issue in 1975.

  51. Erin April 26th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Irreverent Discourse April 26th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    lol you think Jeter is bad at SS now? Stick A-Rod over there 8 years removed from full time duty? no one will complain about Jeter anymore.

    ******************************
    :lol:

    very true

  52. tom tresh 15 April 26th, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Hoping to see S/WB Yanks tomorrow as they play in Charlotte. Anyone know how to find the pitching probables ?

  53. hardwired7 April 26th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    crazy Nolan Ryan stat:

    1973 & 74 combined innings pitched – 658.2

  54. joeman April 26th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    # Giuseppe Franco April 26th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Gardner is going to sit tomorrow anyways.
    ———————————————————————
    great news

  55. Mike_Boston April 26th, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    MTU,
    That would be really brutal if your theory is correct given the course of action they took, but understandable I guess. Do you think given the circumstances that tendinitis would be one of best case scenarios considering all other alternatives?

  56. pat April 26th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    “A-Rod has even said he doesn’t want to go back to SS.”

    I bet Alex still thinks he could play SS but would never say it because of the firestorm he knows it would start.

  57. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    At least I got a rise out of a few of you to break to medical monotony. :-)

  58. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Mike-

    Yes. It is certainly better than a structural, circulatory,nerve, or metabolic cause.

    Absolutely.

  59. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    lol you think Jeter is bad at SS now? Stick A-Rod over there 8 years removed from full time duty… no one will complain about Jeter anymore

    —–

    Why would we complain about Jeter with Alex ranging around at short? ;)

  60. Patrick April 26th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    A-rod never should have moved from SS. It kind of bums me out that he did…

  61. blake April 26th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Had Alex never moved from SS then he would have likely moved by now anyway…..you’d have Alex at 3rd or DH, Jeter in the outfield, and lord knows what playing SS. It worked out for the best the way it happened.

  62. stuckey99 April 26th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    “A-rod never should have moved from SS. It kind of bums me out that he did…”

    Why?

  63. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    ID may be on to something.

    Notice how no one complains about Posada’s defense now that Martin’s back there?

    The Yanks should find a better SS so the miscreants on here stop complaining about Jeter.

    :D

  64. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Only a few old timers that one of the things that ended Whitey Ford’s career was a circulation problem in his left arm. In 1965, he kept a bottle of hot water in his back pocket on cold days because there wasn’t enough blood flowing to his hands. He eventually have a vein graft after that season, but, never fully recovered.

    While it’s true that Ford had another bottle in the pocket of his warm-up jacket, that was for other reasons.

  65. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Only a few old timers ***would remember***that one of the things that ended

  66. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    “While it’s true that Ford had another bottle in the pocket of his warm-up jacket, that was for other reasons.”

    That was to celebrate all his victories so he must have taken a nip quite often.

    :)

  67. Mike_Boston April 26th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    For those out of market the game is on MLB T.V. tonight.

  68. stuckey99 April 26th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    The MRI’s are negative…

    For Montero, that is…

  69. Irreverent Discourse April 26th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    LGY – not exactly what i was getting at but… as long as the net result is less complaining i’m game :)

  70. Patrick April 26th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Why?

    Because he was a far better fielder than Jeter when he came to the Yankees. He was at the prime of his career and would have gone down as the best SS of all time had he stayed there.

  71. blake April 26th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    If Arod staying at SS would have meant that he never hurt his hip…..then fine but considering he would have been playing a more demanding position, that’s probably not realistic.

  72. Irreverent Discourse April 26th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    blake – didn’t they say that hip thing is something alex has been dealing with his whole life? he supposedly has more range of motion in that hip now than he ever did.

  73. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    The smartest thing the Yankees ever decided to do was realize that Rodriguez was the best choice for third base. He was also the best choice for shortstop. With all of the crap he took from the media and so-called fans” for muscling in of Jeter’s stage, imagine him taking over at shortstop. I think the fans were more jealous of Rodriguez and figured he was just trying to steal Jeter’s spotlight. They, for the most part behaved like junior high school girls freezing out the new girl.

    As far as that article, it was pretty harmless. What made it look bad was the same thing that always looked bad with Rodriguez…not what he said, but, the way he said it and media and fans were more than happy to jump on it with both feet. Looking back, what he said was the truth and not meant to disparage Jeter’s talents. Face facts…no team ever worried about Jeter ending a game with a bomb, even though he was and is one Hell of a run producer and had he chose, could have been a 30 homer a year hitter. There was Williams, O’Neill, Martinez, Posada and later, Giambi to provide the thump..

  74. 108 stitches April 26th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Alex came to the Bronx in ’04 knowing full well it was Jeter’s town. He was more than willing to make the transition to 3rd base and worked many long and grueling hours with Graig Nettles to be sure he would work the position well.
    In the few times that Jeter has been out of the lineup for extended games, the question never came up with either Torre or Girardi to have Alex move to SS until Jeter returned.

  75. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    MTU April 26th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
    “While it’s true that Ford had another bottle in the pocket of his warm-up jacket, that was for other reasons.”

    That was to celebrate all his victories so he must have taken a nip quite often.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Ford never partied at all the night before he pitched and almost never when they were home. He has a lot of stories to tell, though. Like the time that Mantle told Howard that catching/calling a game was no big deal and he could do just as well. Ford didn’t realize that howard made a bet with Mantle that he couldn’t call a win in Ford’s game. Mantle gave the signals from center field. Ford pitched a shutout and Mantle was jumping around like they had just won the WS. Then, Howard paid Mantle the $25 bet and they told Ford about it. Ford grabbed the money and went to dinner on Mantle’s money.

  76. blake April 26th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Id,

    He couldnt have played SS the last 2 years and it probably wouldn’t be a good idea now. ….he would have had to move positions and Jeter would have already been playing elsewhere.

  77. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Great story GB.

    Thanks for sharing it.

    :)

  78. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    New thread ==>

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