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Yankees squander another strong start

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 26, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post


For the second night in a row, the Yankees wasted a strong outing by their own starter and were largely shutdown by the White Sox starter. Ivan Nova walked off the mound in the seventh inning with a 2-1 lead and a standing ovation, but Rafael Soriano gave up a two-run home run in the eighth and the White Sox beat the Yankees 3-2. The Yankees were held to just four hits, and the only hits that kept them from a second straight shutout were solo home runs by Robinson Cano and Brett Gardner.

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128 Responses to “Yankees squander another strong start”

  1. Rich in NJ April 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    As I said, Soriano can help, but being wedded to him in the 8th right now is dumb.

  2. Captain Clutch April 26th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Absoolutely unreal. 9 times out of 10 he doesn’t catch that ball from Cano. What a lucky catch.

  3. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    I just got home.

    Gumby blew another friggin game???

  4. JM April 26th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    well, i guess the yanks helped the pale hose out of their slump.

  5. rr212 April 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Better team won. This team has way too many holes.

  6. Yankee Trader April 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Title should be “Soriano Squanders Another Strong Start.”

  7. The Other Phil April 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    sleeping bats and another bad outing by Soriano. not a good showing the past few days. Would be great if Soriano could earn his bullpen spot.

  8. Carl April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Anyone else hate having Grandy Bunt?

  9. Marcus April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    The White Sox aren’t exactly smashing the ball.

  10. Madrugador April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    It won’t matter how many games Gumby saves, holds or wins. I will never trust this guy with the ball. Can we still give him back to Tampa?

  11. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Yankees getting hosed on balls in play, they might as well go for Home Runs since they can’t buy a hit dropping in (except for Jeter amazingly)

  12. cs in la April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Feel like someone kicked me in the nuts.

  13. sunny615 April 26th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Soriano blows. Glad Hal overruled Cash to get and lost our first round draft pick. Good leadership. Offense sucks right now. If you can’t win the close games you have no chance in the postseason.

  14. JM April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    tough loss. oh well. right back at them tomorrow….

    don’t like soriano’s body language at the moment. he looks like he almost expects to be lit up.

  15. michaels07 April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Terrible loss, blame it on Girardi the magnificent.

  16. sunny615 April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    And this ain’t exactly the halladay’s or cliff lee’s were facing.

  17. Madrugador April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Grandy bunting puts the tie run at second with Teixiera and A-rod to follow? Seems reasonable to me.

  18. GoldGlove9486 April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Team should be 16-4. Two games lost by Soriano, one Mariano blown save turns into a loss, and maybe one Hughes implosion should have been a win.

  19. YankeesNmore April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    YankeesNmore April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
    hillbillyshakespeare April 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
    Soriano looks like he doesn’t even want to be out there. I really don’t like this guy’s attitude, he doesn’t belong in pinstripes.
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    At least he has the talent to turn it around… I’ll take that over that waste of space we play at SS and bat leadoff every night.

    Oh, and we owe him $51 million, too.

  20. YankeesNmore April 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    YankeesNmore April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
    The Yankees have done a wonderful job of bringing a team of the walking dead back to life and making them feel very good about themselves.

    Nice effort.

  21. coolerking101 April 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    This loss brought to you by Randy Levine. You may know him from some of his other great moves, including the the current contracts of Soriano, Jeter and A-Rod.

  22. Captain Clutch April 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    I really hope Girardi let’s Robertson pitch the 8th inning the next time the Yanks have a lead. Soriano’s act is getting old very fast. Let him pitch better, lose the attitude and then he can get his job back. The back of the bullpen is killing them right now.

  23. sunny615 April 26th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Why girardi keeps going to sorry-ano is beyond me. This guy has junk, blows leads like he’s giving out candy and can’t even pass through a craptastic white sox offense.

  24. Rich in NJ April 26th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Pat M.

    Rich in NJ……Soriano was a panic signing that made sense because power arms in the pen win games in October
    __

    The price was too high in terms of dollars, years, and picks, and it’s not smart to disregard your GM’s advice.

    So he may help, but given the price, the bar will be set awfully high.

  25. hardwired7 April 26th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Carl April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Anyone else hate having Grandy Bunt?

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    having a HR hitter give away an out in the 9th? no sir, I don’t like it.

  26. Shame Spencer April 26th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Soriano isn’t endearing himself to many Yankee fans thats for sure.. I didn’t get to see him pitch, did he really stomp around on the mound like a little kid?

  27. YankeesNmore April 26th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I know it didn’t end up mattering, but UNBELIEVABLY stupid baserunning from Derek Jeter not to tag and make it to third on the ARod ball.

    Bad enough the guy has zero talent left and has sucked virtually every night for the last 10 months… Now he plays like an idiot, too.

    $51 million well spent.

  28. Marcus April 26th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I think Girardi keeps running Soriano out there in the 8th.

  29. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    There was a reason our own GM was against the signing.

  30. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    I only saw the first 4 innings.

    How did Nova look after that?

  31. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Giving away outs in the 9th is moronic. Let Grandy hit. Giving a struggling pen a free out is just dumb

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Soriano has a great arm, it was a signing that had to happen. He is pitching poorly right now.

  33. tampayank April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Brian Cashman #Winning

  34. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    hey, as two wise posters always say, its fine to just hit home runs…..2 more tonight and an entire 2 other hits as well. just keep hammering out those long balls.

    maybe babip is not in our favor right now, but the all or nothing model wont work longer term.

  35. Rich in NJ April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    “it was a signing that had to happen”

    So it was preordained?

  36. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Y even take out d-rob? Y can’t he start the 8??? This bullpen mgmt is terrible.

  37. Chambliss April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Two great catches lost the game. It happens.

    Soriano is a mess. He needs to be moved out of the 8th inning role. Give joba or Robertson a chance. I don’t care how much money he makes. He can’t handle the pressure right now. Let him pitch in the 6th. If he complains, cut him and eat the salary.

  38. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    He looked like Ivan Nova, except for the fact that he pitched well and into the 7th inning.

  39. Captain Clutch April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    I didn’t like the bunt but it has nothing to do with why they lost. Soriano pulling a Randy Johnson, Pavano and Javy Vazquez killed them once again and that nobody in RF making the play of his life. 9 times out of 10 Lillibridge doesn’t make that catch on the ball by Cano and the Yanks win. Players go all out against the Yanks, against any other team that ball falls in and the W.Sox lose.

  40. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    hey, as two wise posters always say, its fine to just hit home runs…..2 more tonight and an entire 2 other hits as well. just keep hammering out those long balls.

    maybe babip is not in our favor right now, but the all or nothing model wont work longer term.

    Did you see the balls Cano and Arod were hitting tonight? Granderson as well in the 1st. I guess you can choose to believe that every RFer in baseball is going to make back to back best plays of the year on our guys all season long.

  41. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Who would have guessed the starters would be good n the pen terrible??

  42. RhapsodyInBlue April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    YankeesNmore do everyone on the thread a favor and go play in the traffic.

  43. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Granderson bunted in the 9th?

    Really?

  44. 4 NYY April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    10 hits to 4. You don’t win many times when you’re more than doubled in hits.

    Just the way it works in baseball, the vast majority of the time.

  45. bruceb April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Overpaid, overrated and over-used. Soriano sucks. Plain and simple. We were supposed to be the team that couldn’t lose if we had a lead after six innings. Instead, we can’t win unless we’re five runs ahead. Way to endear yourself to fans in the Bronx. Bout time a few of our hitters came to life too. With our talent, games like these should never even go down to the wire.

  46. tampayank April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    lots of Jeter hate but he’s been in decline since last season, it’s sad to watch……I didn’t buy it was just one down year, you don’t improve at 37 unless you get on cattle steroids

  47. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    # Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Giving away outs in the 9th is moronic. Let Grandy hit. Giving a struggling pen a free out is just dumb

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    Why? The tying run scores on a single. you eliminate the dp possibility. you have tex, arod, and cano up and you force them to use another reliever. the move was the right move. face facts all, you can blame soriano or girardi if you want, but this offense lives and dies on the long ball and it needs to change.

  48. RhapsodyInBlue April 26th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Randy Levine way to go.

  49. hardwired7 April 26th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    “How did Nova look after that?”

    He kept his composure all night. There didn’t seem to be any dip in the quality of his pitches.

    His final pitch count was in the low 90′s.

    Easily his best start as a Yankee.

  50. TheStraw April 26th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    The whiners are out in full force I see…Crappy loss, but at least Nova looked good. Can’t blame the loss on Girardi, this one is all on Soriano and the offense. Anyone who thinks Joe shouldn’t use him there is smoking crack. If you don’t allow him to overcome April struggles, you may as well trade him. Whether or not it was a good deal is a different discussion, but you can’t blame this one on Joe. Plus, despite all that, it took two highlight reel plays for the Chisox to pull it out.

    And for the commenter who said we aint exactly facing Halladay, I would take Floyd over 3/5 of our starters.

  51. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    # Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    hey, as two wise posters always say, its fine to just hit home runs…..2 more tonight and an entire 2 other hits as well. just keep hammering out those long balls.

    maybe babip is not in our favor right now, but the all or nothing model wont work longer term.

    Did you see the balls Cano and Arod were hitting tonight? Granderson as well in the 1st. I guess you can choose to believe that every RFer in baseball is going to make back to back best plays of the year on our guys all season long.
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    right, so if pone of those 9th inning balls fall in we have 5 hits for the game. im overwhelmed now.

  52. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Maybe his back is still bothering him and he isn’t letting on.

  53. sunny615 April 26th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Wait. Let me guess. Jeter wants to tip his cap.

  54. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Nova made a real fine effort tonite given that he hadn’t pitched in 10 days or so.

  55. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    right, so if pone of those 9th inning balls fall in we have 5 hits for the game. im overwhelmed now.

    We had 3 line outs, a sharp groundout, and 2 hard hit fly outs. All you can ask is that the Yankees hit the ball well.

  56. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    The Yankees had to have Sori? An overrated got ball reliever, with a bad attitude, unsustainable numbers, making ridiculous money, and costing a draft pick?

    How does that work?

    Hopefully Levine is learning his lesson and in the long run this Sori thing may work out cause it teaches Levine to stay out of Cashman business.

  57. Joe from Long Island April 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Kay talking about Goose Gossage blowing games, when he first came over to the team.

    I’ve read, in several sources, that, early when Goose was on the team, that Munson would come to the mound and greet him by saying “So, how’re you going to blow this one?”

  58. Captain Clutch April 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Good thing the Yanks face a lefty tomorrow that gets Gardner out of the lineup. Home run aside a pitcher could have better at bats than him. He seems to have a mental block against swinging the bat.

  59. hardwired7 April 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    If they had Ramiro Pena up there, the bunt made sense.

    Granderson has been in a groove, stroking easy HRs. Go for the kill there.

  60. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    You want the yankees to get base hits, but to get base hits you need to hit the ball hard (generally) and past / around fielders. Its more complicated than simply getting a base hit.

  61. Shame Spencer April 26th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    I think the positive in the past two games is we’ve gotten good starts out of AJ and Ivan. Hopefully our offense will click a little better for the other starters. The pen looks a bit disheveled right now, but it always does around this time of year it seems. It always shakes out in the end. I think some arms from the minors will end up in some of those roles. Some of the guys they’ve already called up have been pretty good. Robertson is vastly underrated. Our pen will be fine.

  62. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    # Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    right, so if pone of those 9th inning balls fall in we have 5 hits for the game. im overwhelmed now.

    We had 3 line outs, a sharp groundout, and 2 hard hit fly outs. All you can ask is that the Yankees hit the ball well.
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    wow, al leiter mentions exactly what i have been saying all year. “you cant win games with just home runs”. he must be a red sox fan or he simply hasnt had the wisdom of babip…..also known as every hard hit ball should definitely be a hit for us……instilled in him.

  63. NYY626 - Retire 46 April 26th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    4 hits tonight. Jeter had 2 of them ( yes I know the 2nd one doesn’t count to some of you). He was on base 3 times tonight and people are still complaining about him. Not his fault we lost guys, jeeze.

  64. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    “Robertson is vastly underrated.”

    I think so too.

    ;)

  65. Joe from Long Island April 26th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Hey, it’s easy to dump on Randy Levine. I mean, the guy does seem to invite it. But, realistically, it’s way too early to write off Soriano.

    They’re in a team slump the past two games. Just like that team from Boston was for the first two weeks, before they came on past couple of games, you know, to claim their 2011 World Championship.

  66. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    wow, al leiter mentions exactly what i have been saying all year. “you cant win games with just home runs”. he must be a red sox fan or he simply hasnt had the wisdom of babip…..also known as every hard hit ball should definitely be a hit for us……instilled in him.

    What should the yankees do, not hit the ball hard? How do you think they should fix it? Hit 100% line drives?

  67. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    # LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    The Yankees had to have Sori? An overrated got ball reliever, with a bad attitude, unsustainable numbers, making ridiculous money, and costing a draft pick?

    How does that work?

    Hopefully Levine is learning his lesson and in the long run this Sori thing may work out cause it teaches Levine to stay out of Cashman business.
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    maybe, “in the long run”, soriano becomes a great setup man for rivera and levine looks like a genius while cashman waits for his boy feliciano to finally go for surgery and end the charade.

  68. Captain Clutch April 26th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    On the post game they just said in the 9th inning today is the 1st time that Lillibridge has played RF this year and only the 8th time in his career. Unreal….

  69. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    ‘Munson would come to the mound and greet him by saying “So, how’re you going to blow this one?’

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    Just gotta love old Thurm…………..what a character.

  70. Kevin Not That Kevin Brown April 26th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    How frustrating and disheartening – we come home from a good road trip to four games with a team that isn’t just stumbling but reeling, so we have a chance to steal some wins.

    Instead, we suddenly can’t hit and our bullpen is in big trouble – and I’m not talking about Mo.

    Joba is not working as a reliever – I believe he’s given up runs in over half his appearances so far, this after a 4+ ERA last season – and since he didn’t work as a starter, he’s pretty much done. And Soriano clearly has not adjusted to his role as a non-closer. We have no bridge to Mo.

  71. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    # Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    wow, al leiter mentions exactly what i have been saying all year. “you cant win games with just home runs”. he must be a red sox fan or he simply hasnt had the wisdom of babip…..also known as every hard hit ball should definitely be a hit for us……instilled in him.

    What should the yankees do, not hit the ball hard? How do you think they should fix it? Hit 100% line drives?
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    im not asking the yankees to do anything, im pointing out, as i have been, that if you cant play station to station baseball with the long ball mixed in, your offense wont be consistent and wont be close to the offense it is expected to be over the long term. my point is very simple, living off the home run is not going to work all year.

  72. Bronx Jeers April 26th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Gossage gave up a HR in each of his first 3 games but his ERA on April 25th was below 3.

    http://www.baseball-reference......;year=1978

  73. Marcus April 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    It doesn’t matter whether Granderson bunted or not. The fact is that both A-Rod and Robbie’s outs should’ve won the game. The RF made great plays.

  74. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    im not asking the yankees to do anything, im pointing out, as i have been, that if you cant play station to station baseball with the long ball mixed in, your offense wont be consistent and wont be close to the offense it is expected to be over the long term. my point is very simple, living off the home run is not going to work all year.

    I’m saying that the offense in the long run won’t be 100% reliant on the home run. You phrase your worries as if once they stop hitting HRs they will falter. I look at the game Cano had , the game A-rod had and see guys hitting hard line drives that will go for extra bases in the future. I don’t want to get into this again, we pretty much ran through it last night.

    I think it is silly to look at the game some of our hitters had today and say they aren’t employing the right process. The results weren’t there, but not for a lack of hitting the ball hard.

  75. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    maybe, “in the long run”, soriano becomes a great setup man for rivera and levine looks like a genius while cashman waits for his boy feliciano to finally go for surgery and end the charade.

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    Soriano has blown how many games already?

    Relievers have minimal impact on the season as it is.

    The contract was near impossible to justify to begin with.

  76. Rich in NJ April 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    “maybe, “in the long run”, soriano becomes a great setup man for rivera and levine looks like a genius while cashman waits for his boy feliciano to finally go for surgery and end the charade.”

    “In the long run we are all dead. ” Keynes

    So you’d prefer that Levine be the GM?

  77. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Carlo

    Yes or no.

    The Yankees will lead the league in runs this year?

  78. Don Vito A. Bellamo April 26th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Donning my Cap’n Obvious Cap, I gotta say that Soriano is NOT who we thought he was. Again, with an early sample size taken into consideration, he STILL has to earn this 8th inning job, IMHO. Especially with how he has pitched so far. Both of these games were winnable and to go 0-2 is not the end of the world, but makes tomorrow’s game just a bit more important, right ? Have a great night, ALL ! :-)

  79. JM April 26th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Sheesh, you’d think Derek Jeter shot someone’s dog or killed their grandma, with all the hate he gets on here….

  80. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Relievers only get so many leads, the fact that Soriano has already blown 2 or 3 means he is going to be about average or below on the year. He could make up for it by being lights out in the playoffs though. (But last year he said he didnt want to pitch unless they had a lead and subsequently ran off a 9 ERA)

  81. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Joe from Long Island April 26th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
    Kay talking about Goose Gossage blowing games, when he first came over to the team.

    I’ve read, in several sources, that, early when Goose was on the team, that Munson would come to the mound and greet him by saying “So, how’re you going to blow this one?”

    Joe, Wettland was another one. He had a 5.30 something ERA in may of ’95. They seemed to do pretty well after that. Soriano was at least throwing hard, so, I expect better from here on out. One thing there can be no complaints about in the last 5 games….starting pitching.

  82. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    No it’s always a great idea to bunt with ur leading HR hitter and against a pitcher who can’t throw strikes. By all means.

  83. Bronx Jeers April 26th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    I blame the no-show ghosts and the recessed upper deck.

    Lillibridge looks like Buchholz! :angry:

  84. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    # LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    maybe, “in the long run”, soriano becomes a great setup man for rivera and levine looks like a genius while cashman waits for his boy feliciano to finally go for surgery and end the charade.

    —–

    Soriano has blown how many games already?

    Relievers have minimal impact on the season as it is.

    The contract was near impossible to justify to begin with.
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    not arguing the contract, merely saying that soriano could turn out to be a very valuable asset to the team over the next 140+ games.

    also, if you say relievers have minimal impact then why are you asking how many games soriano has blown already? he can only impact games in a negative way?

    Soriano has blown 2 games, minnesota and today. mariano has blown one, and was very close to blowing a 2nd. the numbers arent pretty, its early, but fans like yourself will make a dicey situation worse when the boo birds start at the stadium.

  85. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Carlo I agree with the basic premise that teams cant survive hitting only home runs unless they do it at an above average rate. The blue jays last year scored 750 runs basically hitting only HRs. I disagree with the premise that the yankees have this problem.

  86. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    I’m excited for tom. No soriano. Who has had a clean inn once as a Yankee.

  87. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    also, if you say relievers have minimal impact then why are you asking how many games soriano has blown already? he can only impact games in a negative way?

    Relievers can only affect like 4% of the innings pitched on the season, but in that inning they can definitely blow a game. The problem is , even if they succeed they have only affected 1 inning and there are 8 others that need to be pitched clean to win the game. Being a reliever is very difficult, you can tank a game and even when you are successful its no guarantee.

  88. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Soriano has blown 2 games, minnesota and today. mariano has blown one, and was very close to blowing a 2nd. the numbers arent pretty, its early, but fans like yourself will make a dicey situation worse when the boo birds start at the stadium.

    ——

    Thanks, but I don’t boo players.

    If I did though, I would have booed Soriano at his press conference.

  89. Ace April 26th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Anyone that thinks this team doesn’t have a problem scoring on anything other than a HR hasn’t been watching. U have to tack on and also string 3-4 hits together. We r not doing that. Tough to homer off better pitching.

  90. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Bronx Jeers April 26th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
    Gossage gave up a HR in each of his first 3 games but his ERA on April 25th was below 3.

    http://www.baseball-reference……;year=1978

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    Gossage was 1-3 with 2 blown saves in his first april. The only reason his ERA stayed that low was that he pitched multiple innings. he wasn’t good, no matter how it’s colored.

  91. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    LGY – no, i dont think we will and here is why:

    right now we are hitting a home run every 17-18 plate appearances. last year, the red sox led the AL in home runs and they homered 1 in every 27 or so plate appearances. clearly our pace will fall off.

    adjusting for games played, we are leading the league in runs right now by a handful………that said, we have 6 guys on pace for 40+ homers. we also have a few easy outs who i dont expect to get better as the season moves on.

  92. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Tough to homer off better pitching.

    Actually in my anecdotal experience its easy to hit a solo HR or a timely HR against an ace pitcher. Look at the postseason last year.

    Its much more difficult to string together 4-5 hits off a good pitcher. They wouldn’t be a good pitcher otherwise. Who makes 5 consecutive mistakes?

  93. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Carlo,

    Who is going to lead the league in runs if not the Yankees?

  94. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    right now we are hitting a home run every 17-18 plate appearances. last year, the red sox led the AL in home runs and they homered 1 in every 27 or so plate appearances. clearly our pace will fall off.

    Last year the Blue Jays led the league in HRs and it wasnt close. They homered every 23 PA.

  95. CB April 26th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    It gets late early for relievers because they just don’t throw many innings.

    Soriano’s career high in terms of innings pitched is 75.

    He has already thrown 9 1/3 innings so far this season.

    That’s over 12% of his innings based on that career high.

    He’s not going to throw more than 80 innings this season.

    So he’s already accounted for a significant portion of all the value he can contribute to the team.

    He really must turn it around in a big way and produce major results in the post season.

  96. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    # Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Carlo I agree with the basic premise that teams cant survive hitting only home runs unless they do it at an above average rate. The blue jays last year scored 750 runs basically hitting only HRs. I disagree with the premise that the yankees have this problem.

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    a – i agree with your commentary on relievers but disagree with the premise that we should all put a fork in soriano because “he stinks”

    b – i am not staunchly saying we will have this problem all year, but we have it now and it has to change…….changing it involves removing some of the guys who are all or nothing hitters and replacing them with fundamental hitters (posada)……the other issue is our non power guys are completely awful….the gardner/jeter combo batting a combined .210 is unfathomable and cant be overcome over the long haul. they have to be table setters.

  97. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    # Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    right now we are hitting a home run every 17-18 plate appearances. last year, the red sox led the AL in home runs and they homered 1 in every 27 or so plate appearances. clearly our pace will fall off.

    Last year the Blue Jays led the league in HRs and it wasnt close. They homered every 23 PA.

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    i stand corrected. you are correct, didnt look far enough down the column. they hit 257 home runs and finished 6th in the AL in runs scored……that further proves the danger of hitting nothing but home runs.

  98. Pat M. April 26th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Power bullpens win in October……I fully understand Rich in NJ not being happy about the Soriano signing and was adamant about it well before he was inked….And although it wasn’t really about the dough as it was about losing the pick……Once Lee was gone and they knew that Pettite wasn’t returning they decided to build the rotation from the back forward…..Not exactly ideal but look at Oakland and Andrew Bailey, can the Yanks really have depth in the pen to absorb an injury hit…..Hughes bailed the pen out in 09 after Bruney went down……..I’m pleased with the signing, not crazy how things have gone since he was lights out to start the season

  99. Rich in NJ April 26th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    No, reasonable person has said put a fork in Soriano.

  100. Carlo April 26th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    i have to go to bed fellas. enjoy your night. we’ll smash buehrle tomorrow and get back on track.

  101. Captain Clutch April 26th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    I wonder if Mr. Moody stayed around to talk to the media this time. Or if he too cool for that.

  102. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    I have been a fan of Girardi but he us killing me this season.

    Between the bullpen management and the bunting, I am starting to question if he really is a good manager.

    I can’t believe he bunted Grandy in the 9th.

  103. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    That silly play to tie at home maxim.

  104. blake April 26th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    I can’t believe both of those balls were caught…unreal.

    I choose to look at the positives….which obviously was Nova just as AJ was last night. If they keep getting good starting pitching then they’ll be fine….I have to believe their pen will stop blowing these games., i

  105. Bo knows April 26th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    It is a continuing saga with the Yankees really noticeable with second half of last year. It’s like they’ve never seen a breaking ball before, 10 SOs and the starter into the ninth. Pitch backwards and they self destruct. Swisher and Teix need to do reverse torques, it looks painful in what they do to their body.

  106. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Yanks right now are getting surprisingly good outings from Logan, and shockingly from “Kitty” Carlyle and Pendleton and with the exception of two games from Rivera and Chamberlain. Rivera will be Rivera and Soriano will be just fine.

  107. blake April 26th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    LgY,

    I didn’t like that either….he’s hit lefties well and doesn’t hit into a lot of DPs….and could end it with one swing…that said Jeter would have scored without two great catches in RF.

  108. Jerkface April 26th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Soriano has only had 1 clean inning this year, and his WHIP is 1 higher than last year. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  109. LGY April 26th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Blake

    Yeah. Grandy is near impossible to double up. He has hit into 21 double plays in his entire career.

  110. blake April 26th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Soriano’s velocity was better tonight as he predicted it would be after about a month…..does anybody recall when he said he’d actually be ready to get guys out?…..May, June?

  111. Rich in NJ April 26th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Someone needs to burn Girardi’s binder.

  112. blake April 26th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Lgy,

    That’s why it was a strange play to give away an out there….especially when the game isn’t tied.

  113. tyanksfan36 April 26th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    GB7

    Ryan Pope pitched again tonight, worked a perfect inning and got around an E3. Don’t know what he normally pitches but so far they have just been 1 inning stints.

  114. blake April 26th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    These last 2 games is exactly why I hate series against teams that have been struggling and are due to play better…..baseball has a remarkable way of correcting itself.

  115. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    TY, Pope was converted from starter to closer about a year and a half ago.

  116. blake April 26th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Night all…

  117. MTU April 26th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Good night Blake.

  118. tyanksfan36 April 26th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    GB7

    ah, well he hasnt pitched in the 9th inning(little eighth inning guy humor) but he has done well.

    something of interest, maybe you might have insight to this. Luis Sojo does not come onto the field, or even out of the dugout for the National Anthem, ever. The people in front of me at the game noticed it, said they always look to see if he will and he never does, said he never came out when he was the manager the year before last too.

  119. Bo knows April 26th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Well, I think it’s Buehrle tomorrow – Junk and Lefty. At least Swisher will switch and Jones in.

  120. tyanksfan36 April 26th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    MTU

    20 days away from my first Yankees @ Rays game at the Trop. Gotta find a way to smuggle in my tomatoes for Joe ;)

  121. pat April 26th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    bkabak Wait. Javier Vazquez’s fault. Lillibridge traded by Atlanta to Chicago for – wait for it – Javy and Boone Logan.

  122. Vineyard Yankee April 26th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    It is only one game, even though it is a loss.

  123. tyanksfan36 April 26th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    well at least the Red Sox lost.

  124. GreenBeret7 April 26th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    tyanksfan36 April 26th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
    GB7

    ah, well he hasnt pitched in the 9th inning(little eighth inning guy humor) but he has done well.

    something of interest, maybe you might have insight to this. Luis Sojo does not come onto the field, or even out of the dugout for the National Anthem, ever. The people in front of me at the game noticed it, said they always look to see if he will and he never does, said he never came out when he was the manager the year before last too.

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    I think that sojo had a hip replaced last year, so getting up and down steps may be an issue. Does he make pitching changes?

  125. Pat M. April 26th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    GB…Now that things have quieted down, I just can’t comprehend how insanely fickle the thin skinned Yankee fans are here this season…..I’m not referring to the regular guys who were outspoken about their reservations or flat out against The Soriano signing….It’s the flopper’s that go from bandwagon to bandwagon from game to game……Good thing we didn’t have the blog back in 2000 when the Yanks limped to the finish line only to take out the Mets….Actually just go back to 09 and all the disenchantment with Alex….80 % here hated # 13…….They think Giradi has no clue, they should have been around for the Old Professor, Casey Stengel himself……

  126. Dill Pickler April 26th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Same old same old with this offense. It really shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone at this point. These clowns come to the park half-asleep in at least a third of their games. They don’t wake up until the late innings in way too many games. Last season, despite leading the league in runs scored, they were held to 3 or fewer runs in exactly 1/3 of their games — 54. That’s pretty amazing, when you think about it. What it proves is that this team is wildly inconsistent. Just look at the last 4 games. They hang 15 on Baltimore, then the next night are shut down offensively for the last 6 innings, only bailed out by Baltimore’s horrible defense. Now the first two games of this series, they have a combined 7 hits. That’s three games in a row this offense has pretty much been sleepwalking through games. Pathetic.

  127. Peepee Hands April 27th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Soriano should have been booed off the mound. What a disgraceful outing. He couldn’t put any hitters away. He looked like he didn’t even want to be out there. He looked like he flat out didn’t even care. He is pitiful. Don’t blame this one on Girardi. Blame this one on Soriano and the rest of the 0 for April Yankees.

  128. GreenBeret7 April 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Pat M. April 26th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
    GB…Now that things have quieted down, I just can’t comprehend how insanely fickle the thin skinned Yankee fans are here this season…..I’m not referring to the regular guys who were outspoken about their reservations or flat out against The Soriano signing….It’s the flopper’s that go from bandwagon to bandwagon from game to game……Good thing we didn’t have the blog back in 2000 when the Yanks limped to the finish line only to take out the Mets….Actually just go back to 09 and all the disenchantment with Alex….80 % here hated # 13…….They think Giradi has no clue, they should have been around for the Old Professor, Casey Stengel himself……

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    How would they have treated the much loved Yogi Berra in ’64? That team was so banged up on the offense that they had so business getting into the 7th game of the ES. What really hurt that team in the WS was not having Pedro Ramos to close for them because he came to the team after Sept 1st, and when they wanted his to replace the injured Tony Kubek, they were refused and had to add the useless Mike Hegan. Hegan was good a few years later, but, not them. Would they have won with Kubek instead of Phil Linz? I don’t know, but, they would have won with Ramos instead of Pete Mikellson. He got that close using a rookie start in 3 games (Stottlemyer) who had 15 ML starts under his belt.

    As far as the idiots on here, I’ve tried to ignore most of the game threads lately. Hell, even when they win, they complain about Jeter or somebody. Just imagine if this were Gossage in ’78 or Nelson, Stanton and later the terrible David Weathers and Graeham Lloyd. These people actually believe they were good all of the time. Only when they got to the post season did something kick in.

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