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Regular vs. lefty lineup

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 27, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Andruw Jones LF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Curtis Granderson CF

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76 Responses to “Regular vs. lefty lineup”

  1. blake April 27th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    I think i’d consider hitting Granderson higher against lefties.

  2. justinxdance27 April 27th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Well I just got back from the Triple A game and Justin Maxwell hit two more bombs and Vazquez drove the ball pretty well and had two hits. Saw Montero peak out the dugout to get a baseball and throw it to a kid. Nice day and win.

  3. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    “I think Gardner and Posada have 2 weeks to show some progress or Gardner will be demoted to AAA and Posada will see Chavez slowly take his at bats.”

    ——————

    The problem with the whole Posada situation is that if you take him out of the full time DH role, he would be a pretty big clog on the roster.

    I thought Jorge was going to be a really good DH this season so I still have faith, but if this continues what do you do with him?

    The situation could get pretty ugly so hopefully it doesn’t come to that.

  4. ericns1 April 27th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Also please don’t use Soriano tonight!

  5. upstate kate April 27th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Girardi already said last night that he wouldn’t use Soriano…he has had 2 back to back days

  6. blake April 27th, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    I think Jorge will come around so Im not going to worry about that until its clear that he’s not going to.

    If he could still catch part time then he’d have value there….but it just doesn’t seem that they feel its safe for him at this point.

  7. 108 stitches April 27th, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Eric Chavez will get his share of playing time. From what he’s shown and with good health, he’s anything but marginal. Girardi should look at scouting reports and any pitcher Jorge has a history of not hitting should see Chavez as the DH.

  8. mick April 27th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    cano needs better protection, i’m thinking Martin

  9. Joe from Long Island April 27th, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    LGY – you’re right in your analysis of Posada’s situation. It’s similar to the Ortiz situation last year in Boston, when Ortiz wasn’t hitting – he’s one-dimensional, and if he’s not hitting he clogs a roster spot. That’s very expensive, team-wise.

    For that reason, I think they will give Jorge every opportunity to get it going. It will be very difficult on the team if he doesn’t, so it behooves them to have patience.

  10. Erin April 27th, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    I think Posada will eventually come around. This is a completely new situation for him-I’m not surprised it’s taking him awhile to find some consistency.

  11. Warning Track Power April 27th, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Jorge will have more than enough time to get HOT at the plate.
    So many “fans” are impatient.
    Where is the love???
    Calm down.
    Take a breathe and all will be well.

  12. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    I think Posada will eventually come around. This is a completely new situation for him-I’m not surprised it’s taking him awhile to find some consistency.

    I would be more optimistic if he were simply hitting into bad luck, but he is having real trouble with anything that isn’t a fastball. K’s 30% of the time.

  13. Irreverent Discourse April 27th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Jerkface – He’s been K’ing at 24% for his entire career, 30% isn’t that big a gap… biggest thing I notice is lots and lots of flyballs, he’s just not driving it at the moment.

    He’ll be fine, it just looks like timing to me.

  14. mick April 27th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Sado could be done, after all he is 40

  15. G. Love April 27th, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    LGY-

    If Jorge doesn’t get it together, and the Yankees decide to replace him at DH with a combination of Chavez, Arod, Jones, etc. he would be dead wood on the bench. He’d do nothing for the team other than pinch hit for Gardner/Jones.

    If he continues struggling, it comes down to the Yankees deciding the value of carrying him out of respect for the remainder of the season or releasing him.

    Here’s what we know; The Yankees did not want to give Jorge the contract for this year. His little lunch with the Mets got him this year that the Yankees wanted no part of.

    Would I be stunned if he didn’t hit better and they released him? Yes.

    Could it happen if he doesn’t start hitting for some kind of average? I think it could. It depends on how much the Yankees want out of his roster spot and if they think they have something better to fill the role on the 25 man.

    Jorge better start hitting or he’s going to force the Yankees to make a career altering decision about him.

  16. Mell April 27th, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Vicente Padilla closed for Mattingly’s Dodgers today. Hmmm.

  17. Bronx Jeers April 27th, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Even though I never really played, I miss GTLU.

    “You know that Cinderella song, “You Don’t Know What You Got (Till It’s Gone)”? That pretty much says it better than how I know how to say it…in words.”

    ?????

  18. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Jerkface – He’s been K’ing at 24% for his entire career, 30% isn’t that big a gap… biggest thing I notice is lots and lots of flyballs, he’s just not driving it at the moment.

    A 6% increase in K’s over his career average and a 2% increase in the amount of swinging strikes. Making 7% less contact in the zone. All his offspeed run values are negative, where as they were positive last year.

  19. Mell April 27th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    “He’s been K’ing at 24% for his entire career, 30% isn’t that big a gap”

    25% increase is knida significant, no?

  20. Irreverent Discourse April 27th, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    it would be a pretty significant drop-off in one season for Posada to keep performing this way.

    FB% is up, 10% over career
    LD% is low, 10% under career

    Just a little under the ball, probably by way of being late on pitches.

    Once he gets his timing up to speed he’ll be just fine, assuming the last concussion didn’t knock it all out of him.

  21. Wave Your Hat April 27th, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Jorge has been more productive offensively than Gardner, Jeter or Swisher.

  22. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    it would be a pretty significant drop-off in one season for Posada to keep performing this way.

    FB% is up, 10% over career
    LD% is low, 10% under career

    Just a little under the ball, probably by way of being late on pitches.

    Once he gets his timing up to speed he’ll be just fine, assuming the last concussion didn’t knock it all out of him.

    Or it could be a Jeter situation, in which he never gets his timing back because he is physically incapable of it. I thought Posada would play a big part this year, even getting some catcher spot starts, but with the concussion worries and now his odd start I can see him fading out of prominence.

  23. Captain Clutch April 27th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    No Gardner and no Soriano should equal a W. Also the Yankees usually pound Buerhle.

  24. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Jorge has been more productive offensively than Gardner, Jeter or Swisher.

    ——

    But the Yankees actually have legitimate options at DH.

  25. Erin April 27th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    LoHudYankees Girardi says nothing new on Hughes right now. Doc will be here later. Might have an update then.

  26. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    I once saw Gardner hit a grandslam off Buerhle in person

  27. Wave Your Hat April 27th, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    “But the Yankees actually have legitimate options at DH.”

    Well Jeter better pick it up or the Yanks will have a legitimate option at SS.

  28. Jacques Strappe April 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    I would not be surprised, if Posada keeps hitting with a HR-to-outs ratio like Dave Kingman (though w/fewer strikeouts), Chavez starts seeing more DH time.

    Same goes for Andruw Jones seeing some of Gardner’s playing time. But when you compare base running & getting to more balls in the OF, it gets harder to take Gardner out.

    If Chavez can show he’ still 80-90% of the hitter he used to be, he’d still be a decent hitter. So far, so good … but so far it’s a small sample size.

    Same goes for Jones showing he can still be 80-90% of the hitter he used to be. He hasn’t had much luck accomplishing that over the past few years though, which is why nobody wanted him for so long and he’s now here making a fraction of what he used to make.

  29. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Well Jeter better pick it up or the Yanks will have a legitimate option at SS.

    Which they will never take.

  30. Wave Your Hat April 27th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    The options at DH are somewhat tricky, as Chavez will get more playing time but you don’t want to give him too much, and Jones should only hit vs LHP when he will be in the field anyway.

  31. Erin April 27th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Girardi insists Soriano will remain the #8thInningGuy

    JackCurryYES Soriano 9 ERs w Yanks after 12 in 2010 w Rays. “He’s had a bad month,” said Girardi, who said he now expects 5 good months

  32. RadioKev April 27th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    As said earlier, you’ve got to bat Granderson higher than 9th. I’d plug him right behind Jones.

  33. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    The options at DH are somewhat tricky, as Chavez will get more playing time but you don’t want to give him too much, and Jones should only hit vs LHP when he will be in the field anyway

    ——-

    Montero

  34. jacksquat April 27th, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Montero is not going to be considered at DH before Jones/Chavez, which is fine with me because he needs to be catching.

  35. tom tresh 15 April 27th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    justinxdance27 April 27th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Well I just got back from the Triple A game and Justin Maxwell hit two more bombs and Vazquez drove the ball pretty well and had two hits. Saw Montero peak out the dugout to get a baseball and throw it to a kid. Nice day and win.
    ***************************************************************************
    Wish I had known you were there. Maybe we could chat a little

  36. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Montero is not going to be considered at DH before Jones/ Chavez, which is fine with me because he needs to be catching.

    ——

    Neither Chavez nor Montero should play everyday at this point and as Wave pointed out Jones will be in the OF when he plays.

  37. Wave Your Hat April 27th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    LGY-

    Mid to late May is when the Yanks will think about Montero. That gives Jorge some time. By then his BA will have come up, and his isolated power will have decreased. How much of each will be the key.

  38. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    If they ditch Posada as the DH Montero should be called up as a DH option and BUC.

  39. jacksquat April 27th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Jones plays in the OF now vs lhp. The situation may be different if Posada is sat down, i.e. Gardner LF + Jones DH.

    Anyway, I don’t think Posada is going to sit much anytime soon.

  40. Erin April 27th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Charleston River Dogs in the house.

  41. jacksquat April 27th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    LGY, you are arguing what should be, I am saying what would probably happen. Often two different things with Girardi.

  42. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Wave

    Sounds right. I think Posada deserves late May to figure it out.

    June 1st would be the D Day of sorts for me.

  43. Nick in SF April 27th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Messi wouldn’t have bunted. :cry:

  44. mick April 27th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Once he gets his timing up to speed he’ll be just fine, assuming the last concussion didn’t knock it all out of him.
    =============
    That could be the crux of the matter and that likely can’t be fixed.

  45. mick April 27th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Montero has been the next DH option all along.
    And you get a BUC to boot. Sounds ideal.

  46. mick April 27th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    As said earlier, you’ve got to bat Granderson higher than 9th. I’d plug him right behind Jones.
    ——————————–
    why not bat him behind cano, they are pitching around him to swisher or whatever drek is there

  47. JobaTipsHisCap April 27th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    DJ will lead? oh my.

  48. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Jerkface – He’s been K’ing at 24% for his entire career, 30% isn’t that big a gap… biggest thing I notice is lots and lots of flyballs, he’s just not driving it at the moment.

    A 6% increase in K’s over his career average and a 2% increase in the amount of swinging strikes. Making 7% less contact in the zone. All his offspeed run values are negative, where as they were positive last year.

    ——————————–

    I love it when you post stuff like this. I would love to see your spreadsheets sometime.

  49. RMS April 27th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    “Montero has been the next DH option all along.
    And you get a BUC to boot. Sounds ideal.”

    Montero is a young kid needs to catch every day. He should not be a BU catcher and DH.
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    Posada is making 13 million. He is not going to be cut or sit on the bench. Give him time, it’s not like he is not going to hit.

  50. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    LGY April 27th, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    If they ditch Posada as the DH Montero should be called up as a DH option and BUC.

    —————————————

    No Vazquez for now then Montero? Only saying so because I think Martin will get more time off and maybe Cervelli is the better option behind the dish for now…….we can let Montero get at bats and behind the plate work in AAA for a bit longer and bring up Vazquez to DH.

    At this stage, one can make the claim that Vazquez is as prepared if not more prepared than Montero offensively…..taking into consideration that he will likely not press given lower expectations. Also, bringing Montero up, if not for good, is a tough move to make because no matter what, if you send him down with less than stellar numbers, the murmurs of failure start from the media and that can be tough on a guy his age.

  51. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Give him time, it’s not like he is not going to hit.

    As a very old player who has suffered multiple head injuries, this is not really a stance one can take unless they are operating on blind faith.

    Thankfully two of Posada’s best attributes, power and patience, have not been affected, but he has to work harder to make contact.

  52. BoJo April 27th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    The amount of money Posada is being paid will have nothing to do with whether or not he can still hit. I have no idea whether he is through or not, but I suspect that if he isn’t hitting by June 15th or so, that Cashman will cut him and bring up Montero.

    I hope it doesn’t come to that, but Cashman is concerned with winning, not Posada’s feelings.

  53. tyanksfan36 April 27th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    Erin

    do you follow dannyburawa on Twitter? He is posting pictures from Yankee Stadium.

  54. Erin April 27th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    tyanksfan36 April 27th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    Erin

    do you follow dannyburawa on Twitter? He is posting pictures from Yankee Stadium.

    ************************
    ty-I don’t, but I will! Thanks for the heads up. :)

  55. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Give him time, it’s not like he is not going to hit.

    As a very old player who has suffered multiple head injuries, this is not really a stance one can take unless they are operating on blind faith.

    Thankfully two of Posada’s best attributes, power and patience, have not been affected, but he has to work harder to make contact.

    ————————

    His patience may not be altered, but his ability to recognize pitches in the zone and put good swings on them certainly appears to be.

  56. LGY April 27th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Carlo

    Personally, I don’t have any belief in Vazquez.

    I know some people think he could hit at this level, but I think he would strike out an outrageous amount and have an abysmal OBP.

  57. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Did anyone else get really irritated by the comments in the O’Connor book regarding Cashman telling Torre to speak to Jeter re the Arod stuff and Torre refusing to do it? Really bothered me for some reason……almost irrationally.

  58. BoJo April 27th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Aside from age, Posada might just be experiencing a slump while getting adjusted to his new role. The sample size is too small at this point to know for sure or to worry too much about it.

  59. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    LGY April 27th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Carlo

    Personally, I don’t have any belief in Vazquez.

    I know some people think he could hit at this level, but I think he would strike out an outrageous amount and have an abysmal OBP.

    ————————————–

    The AAA numbers indicate you are probably right. My bigger concern though is I don’t want to yo-yo Montero. When he comes up, I want it to be for good.

  60. BoJo April 27th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    Did anyone else get really irritated by the comments in the O’Connor book regarding Cashman telling Torre to speak to Jeter re the Arod stuff and Torre refusing to do it? Really bothered me for some reason……almost irrationally.
    _______________
    I’ll refrain from answering as I don’t like Torre and thought he was worthless after Zimmer left.

  61. RMS April 27th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Cashman is not going to cut Posada, who is making 13 million. He is in a slump and will come out of it.

  62. Bronx Jeers April 27th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Some moron at the Yankee ticket office sent out an email to about 1,600 season ticket holders that had an internal spreadsheet attached. Lot’s of personal info exposed but nothing too dangerous.

    Also leaked was some info about non-premium seat plan holders.

    * The Yankees’ total non-premium ticket licensee ticket revenue for far in 2011 is approximately $131,978,910 (plus or minus 1% accuracy due to possible discounting)
    * There are 17,686 non-premium subscriber accounts
    * There are 26,904 full season equivalents
    * There are 21,468 ticket plans
    * There are 59,498 ticket plan seats
    * 2,179,237 total subscriber tickets sold

    http://nyystadiuminsider.com/2.....asses.html

  63. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    The AAA numbers indicate you are probably right. My bigger concern though is I don’t want to yo-yo Montero. When he comes up, I want it to be for good.

    This might lead to exploring less than optimal replacements before Montero gets his shot. I don’t know about Vazquez because if he fails they have to waive him most likely instead of have him eat a roster spot.

  64. Tom in N.J. April 27th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    “Livan Hernandez is the target of a federal probe related to money laundering on behalf of convicted Puerto Rican drug trafficker Angel Ayala Vázquez,”

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......ing-probe/

  65. RadioKev April 27th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    # RMS April 27th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Cashman is not going to cut Posada, who is making 13 million. He is in a slump and will come out of it.
    ————

    Agreed. Almost a 0% chance Posada will get cut. Perhaps he’ll ride the bench a whole lot if he continues to slump, but he’s finishing this season as a Yankee.

  66. joeman April 27th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Gardner has to play how else is he going to get out of his slump

  67. GreenBeret7 April 27th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    That quake you just felt was Juan Miranda slidinging into 3rd base on a triple

  68. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    BoJo April 27th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    Did anyone else get really irritated by the comments in the O’Connor book regarding Cashman telling Torre to speak to Jeter re the Arod stuff and Torre refusing to do it? Really bothered me for some reason……almost irrationally.
    _______________
    I’ll refrain from answering as I don’t like Torre and thought he was worthless after Zimmer left.

    ———————–

    Ditto. Hence my anger. I respect him and am grateful for all he did in his time here …… but his abilities as a manager and the things he did that came out after the fact really bother me. I would love to here what Michael Kay has to say about him.

    “There are things about Joe Torre, if I wanted to come out and say, would show how cold and calculated he really is,” Kay fumed. “… Joe Torre is for Joe Torre. … The graveyard of Yankees coaches is loaded with bones of coaches Joe Torre did nothing about.”

  69. joeman April 27th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    some of those Torre teams I could have been the manager and had won

  70. mick April 27th, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Posada is making 13 million. He is not going to be cut or sit on the bench. Give him time, it’s not like he is not going to hit.
    ====================
    Nobody can say for sure what will happen but if Posada continues to slump he will likely be Dled for Montero.
    His perception could be altered due to his many concussions and that could warrant a DL stint.
    Besides, if he does start to hit and run the bases something is bound to tear or be pulled.
    This would open the door for Montero, which has been their plan all along.
    No way they get full value in a trade if he hasn’t had some ML AB’s.

  71. Carlo April 27th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    joeman April 27th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    some of those Torre teams I could have been the manager and had won

    —————————————————

    All I know is that during the 1996-2000 run, it seemed like the guy had the golden touch. Granted a 1998 and 1999 weren’t high stress years, but 2000 was and 1996 certainly was. It just seemed like even the moves he made that looked utterly insane on paper worked. I even remember going nuts sitting 550 feet from home plate in WS Game 1 in 2000 screaming about why he didnt pinch run for O’Neill after the walk against benitez. o’neill came to the plate two more times in that game.

  72. MG April 27th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I just got sick reading the last thread about the ‘statistics’ regarding whether Grandy’s bunt last night was the right play.

    Some of you throw around numbers like they are an absolute when every decision in life that is is based on statistics includes the error range, which is normally defined as +/- 3 sigma (standard deviations).

    For example, saying that a runner has a 41.4% chance of scoring from 1st base with no outs and only a 39% chance of scoring from second base with one out (I may have the numbers reversed) means nothing because unless the standard deviation for both calculations is below 0.5% (highly unlikely) there is no statistical difference between those numbers.

    I thought Grandy’s bunt was a reasonable decision, just as swinging away would also have been reasonable-I doubt that the outcome would be different statistically if you repeated this enough times (at least 30, but 100 would be a better test) to have good data to analyze.

    That’s just the point about baseball, there are no absolutes and it’s way too easy to criticize a move that didn’t work out when another one could have worked out because the success rate in baseball (at least offensively) is way below 50%. As it was, the only reason the Yankees didn’t score last night was the play on Cano by whoever that guy is (the catch on Rodriguez wasn’t that difficult)-he probably couldn’t make that catch more than 1 or 2 times out of 10 and every other time both runs would have scored to end the game.

  73. mick April 27th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    NEXT====>>>

  74. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    As it was, the only reason the Yankees didn’t score last night was the play on Cano by whoever that guy is (the catch on Rodriguez wasn’t that difficult)-he probably couldn’t make that catch more than 1 or 2 times out of 10 and every other time both runs would have scored to end the game.

    One of the other reasons they potentially didnt score is because they gave up 1 of their chances to score by bunting Granderson.

  75. Jerkface April 27th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Also the run expectancy numbers aren’t based on like a calculation, it looks at the past play-by-play data of all games in the year range. Thats how many times it actually happened in the past.

  76. hardwired7 April 27th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Livan, Livan likes his money

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