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A sign of things to come for Posada?

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 30, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jorge Posada was out of the lineup on Friday, and Joe Girardi had a perfectly reasonable explanation.

Brett Gardner has terrific career numbers against Ricky Romero. The Yankees other regular outfielders have hit well against lefties, and so has platoon starter Andruw Jones. Mark Teixeira was ready to play again after a shoulder injury. The only way to get all of those players in the lineup was to sit Posada.

“I actually thought his at-bats were pretty decent (Thursday) night, but this is the lineup that I chose today,” Girardi said. “I really wanted to get Gardy in there against Romero because of his success, and we brought Jonesy over here to hit against left-handed pitching, and he’s swung the bat pretty well against left-handed pitchers so far this year. That’s why I chose to do what I did.”

Hard not to notice, though, that Posada is hitting .130 and hasn’t had a hit since his sixth home run of the season last Saturday.

For a while, Posada remained productive despite his low batting average, but that was because of an unsustainable home run rate. Without the home runs, Posada has just three singles to go with his 20 strikeouts. Maybe it’s because of age, maybe it’s because of his adjustment to a new role, and maybe it’s nothing more than a rocky start to what will become a good season.

Question is, how long will the Yankees give Posada regular chances to find his swing and produce more than scattered home runs?

Girardi said he plans to mix in some different designated hitters in the next few weeks, but he indicated that had less to do with Posada’s numbers and more to do with playing 32 games in 33 days. Again, the explanation made sense, but it was hard ignore the underlying issue.

“We talked about doing it before the season even started,” Girardi said. “That that was what we would have to do if you wanted to keep a guy’s bat in the lineup, an Alex or a Cano, if we were in long stretches. We talked about that before the season even started, and that Jorge would DH a lot for us, but it wouldn’t necessarily be every, every day.”

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248 Responses to “A sign of things to come for Posada?”

  1. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    # Wang IS Taiwan April 30th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Joeman — VERY good question. I’m very suprised Chad hasn’t addressed this. Pete would have been on it immediately.

    # joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    I do have my email address on it but I’m the only one to look at it unless the peeps running the blog got that info out by mistake

  2. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Posada sucks, why can’t people say it? Why can’t the people asking Girardi be honest and say, Joe please enlighten Yankees fans that you have Jones in the lineup today because you see what everyone sees and that is Posada should have retired at the end of last season, and that he should not be the fulltime DH, correct?

  3. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    Po likely needs more AB’s not less. I understand resting him and wanting certain match ups, but would hope he plays consistently enough to get in a groove. I also think the panic over certain players based on a small sample size is premature. Come see me in late May.

  4. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    i think the personal info problem has less to do with the exodus from this blog than the constantly negative attitude of the current posters. if you come here during a game post, even when they are winning, it reads like a red socks blog.

    total hate for jeter, posada, girardi, cashman and the yankees in general.

    most of the longtime posters stopped going on game posts a long time ago

    now i come onto the game post to troll-as a yankee fan actually rooting for the yankees!

    the vast majority on here in the afternoon/evenings/game posts and overnights are fairweather frontrunning crybabies.

    for real yankees fans this place is dying.

  5. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    For some reason Posada’s bat speed is gone, except at the beginning of the season when he lucked into a few HR’s. He has no speed, so he can’t beat out infield hits or go from 1st to 3rd or steal a base. He’s 40 yrs old, and only still with the Yankees because of a horrific 4 yr deal that Cashman now regrets every day and that deal is holding up Montero’s progress. I forsee many games like last night’s game where he rides the pines clogging up the bench and allowing Montero to rot further in Scranton.

  6. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    …see what i mean and as the day goes on it just gets worse and worse.

  7. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    joeman,

    Security issue are a concern here. What happened to many original LoHudders is difficult to stomach. This site has definitely lost its uniqueness in the Yankee Universe with so few people left. The personalities as well as the Yankee talk made this site special.

    Many of us Yankee STH experienced a big security breach when the Yankees divulged our personal information recently. That is a whole different story, but also very upsetting. Yankees sent us a form letter, but have done nothing further, nor have they changed STH’s account numbers. It is very upsetting to have personal info like emails and unlisted phone numbers released to god knows who.

  8. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    *issues*

  9. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Posada needs more AB’s??????????????? Are you nuts??? He needs to be at home playing with his son and making love to his beautiful wife and working on his charity foundations and visiting Pettitte in TX instead of clogging the progress of the best Yankees prospect in decades while he serves the last year of one of the worst deals in Cashman’s tenure.

  10. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 8:53 am
    Good morning, MTU and morning LoHudders.

    This site is woefully lacking of late.

    Manuelito is pitching tonight; I am hoping to attend. Trenton is a near sell-out. However, the little pitcher still sits anonymously in the stands, charting pitches. So his mlb outings having translated to milb recognition. Last night, I watched Betances pitch and lifted velocities from Manuelito’s radar gun (Trenton doesn’t post them). Betances looked good in first outing off the DL, but only threw about 60 pitches, sitting 91-94, mostly 93, topped out at 96-7, and mostly threw fastballs. If I attend tonight’s game, I will provide a report on Manuelito.

    ////
    Yea Yankfem, first outing for Dellin showed much of what we saw from him last season: the AA hitters just can’t get the good wood on his pitches. It’s comical how he runs through lineups. Not the same command as midseason (esp on the few breaking pitches) but still crazy action on the fastball running up and out to righties luring them to swing at a virtually unhittable pitch that is rarely a strike but it looks that way to ‘em & just explodes up. Hechevarria was the only batter to get a solid hit (off LF wall). He did go backwards a couple times on lefty to get ahead. Wait til he’s in rhythm. I may skip Manny tonight & get him next Thurs.

  11. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    id say dont feed him but its futile, there are a dozen more yankee haters coming as the day progresses

  12. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    jerkface will be here soon. the over/under on the # of his posts slamming jeter for the day is 100 and i’ll take the over.

  13. MaineYankee April 30th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Reading through the posts from last night I thought the Yankees must be in last place.

    What a surprise when I looked and saw they were in 1st.

    To single out individual players as the cause of a team loss just shows a lack of understanding of the concept that baseball is a team game.

    It’s unusual for the whole team to be doing well at the same time.

    It’s also easy to focus on certain aspects of a players performance to support an opinion and ignore something positive that that player brings.

    The focus on certain players and their early struggles just spoils the game for me.

    It seems that there are many good players throught baseball that are struggling, not just on the Yankees.

  14. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:25 am
    id say dont feed him but its futile, there are a dozen more yankee haters coming as the day progresses
    ______
    We need a sign like they have at the zoo that says, “Don’t feed the animals?” ;)

  15. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    It would be great for delusional fans of Posada and Jeter if Girardi could turn back time to say 2002 or 2003 but Girardi can’t turn back time. No one can. Baseball is a young man’s sport and Posada and Jeter both have seen their best days. For Montero and Nunez their best days are ahead of them and should be able to display those better days instead of rotting on the bench or in SWB.

  16. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    the usual knee jerk clueless hate towards Po.let’s just give up on the guy & ignore his career #s.
    ///
    yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:18 am
    Po likely needs more AB’s not less. I understand resting him and wanting certain match ups, but would hope he plays consistently enough to get in a groove. I also think the panic over certain players based on a small sample size is premature. Come see me in late May.
    ///

    yep.

  17. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Yankeefem

    Awesome that you get to see Manny pitch today! And too funny that he isn’t recognized in the stands. I always knew who was charting pitches. Its cool though that they can do that without worrying about fans constantly coming up to them. I know when he was down here, every now and then I would see someone ask for his autograph but rarely.

    I got video of Jose Ramirez for you but its not very good. I found a better place to sit to get a better camera angle next time. I know he threw one pitch a lot that started straight and then curved to the side when it got near the plate. I saw that one a lot. He is still 0-fer so hopefully all his stuff starts working together

  18. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Prufrock,

    Dellin looked mighty good for just having come off the DL. He toys with hitters. Just wait until that CB is in mid-season form. I am hoping to get to the ManBan game IF I can. Getting down to Trenton two days in a row after spending two more in Lakewood this week might be tough. Have to say though, it was great seeing all the Charleston prospects. That lineup is loaded. Heathcott, Feliz, Flores, and Sanchez in a row has me giddy. Damn, I wish Charleston had more NY metro area games this season.

  19. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    # yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    joeman,

    Security issue are a concern here. What happened to many original LoHudders is difficult to stomach. This site has definitely lost its uniqueness in the Yankee Universe with so few people left. The personalities as well as the Yankee talk made this site special.

    Many of us Yankee STH experienced a big security breach when the Yankees divulged our personal information recently. That is a whole different story, but also very upsetting. Yankees sent us a form letter, but have done nothing further, nor have they changed STH’s account numbers. It is very upsetting to have personal info like emails and unlisted phone numbers released to god knows who.
    ————————————————————
    but you don’t have to give up your email or phone #’s on the profile…am I missing something here. I haven’t been here long but about 3 years, I myself never had a problem

  20. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:27 am
    jerkface will be here soon. the over/under on the # of his posts slamming jeter for the day is 100 and i’ll take the over.

    ///
    that guy’s song & dance is already old & transparent. he sees everything through this tainted lens:buidling up his boytoy Brett Gardner & running down Jeter. Boring. Predictable.I just skip those posts the odd times I’m even coming in here.

  21. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    It’s not being a Yankees hater to say that Posada needs to retire. Why is that being a Yankees hater? It’s called “Being Realistic”. Hello! It’s called seeing the future and knowing that Posada isn’t going to be a part of it, so let it happen already!

  22. Wang IS Taiwan April 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Frankly, I get tired of the constant bickering that happens between a couple of posters. And then during games, Trisha was always responding to the RedSox idiots which was incomprehensible. Ignoring them is a much better tactic. “Don’t feed the animals” still holds true on blogs.

    But when only a handful are posting and bickering to boot, that’s when I’m off searching for greener pastures. It’s a shame. We used to have a wide variety of very interesting folks contributing.

  23. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    tyanks,

    Thanks, and looking forward to the J-Ram vid, and to talking more prospects with you later on! I am dashing off to work and then hopefully off to Trenton for the night game. However, I will catch you later. :)

  24. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Yankee STH…I’m a little dumb …what is this

  25. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    For some reason Posada’s bat speed is gone, except at the beginning of the season when he lucked into a few HR’s. He has no speed, so he can’t beat out infield hits or go from 1st to 3rd or steal a base. He’s 40 yrs old, and only still with the Yankees because of a horrific 4 yr deal that Cashman now regrets every day and that deal is holding up Montero’s progress. I forsee many games like last night’s game where he rides the pines clogging up the bench and allowing Montero to rot further in Scranton

  26. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    # J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:27 am
    jerkface will be here soon. the over/under on the # of his posts slamming jeter for the day is 100 and i’ll take the over.

    ///
    that guy’s song & dance is already old & transparent. he sees everything through this tainted lens:buidling up his boytoy Brett Gardner & running down Jeter. Boring. Predictable.I just skip those posts the odd times I’m even coming in here.
    —————————-
    LOL!!!! I tend to be the other way

  27. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Before I go, it is too early in the season to say anyone needs to retire. Knee-jerk much? Speaking of jerks, not really interested in Jerkface’s night and day Jeter demise posts. You really have to wonder who JF works for, and what his agenda is. It is not neutral posting, in spite of protests otherwise. Very emotionally charged posts behind that saber neutral facade.

  28. rr212 April 30th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    YS, I understand that there is a lot of player bashing and negativity on here during the games. I’ll admit, I sometimes am a culprit, however, for me it is just for venting. I still wake up every day loving this team and hoping for the best. Hopefully they can get on a nice roll starting today.

  29. Wang IS Taiwan April 30th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Joeman — season ticket holders.

  30. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    # Wang IS Taiwan April 30th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Joeman — season ticket holders.
    ——————————–
    did I say dumb

  31. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    A sign of things to come for Posada? – God can only hope so. Would love to see more Nunez also. Is now a much better offensive player than Jeter.

  32. Wang IS Taiwan April 30th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Not dumb at all. :)

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:32 am
    Prufrock,

    Dellin looked mighty good for just having come off the DL. He toys with hitters. Just wait until that CB is in mid-season form. I am hoping to get to the ManBan game IF I can. Getting down to Trenton two days in a row after spending two more in Lakewood this week might be tough. Have to say though, it was great seeing all the Charleston prospects. That lineup is loaded. Heathcott, Feliz, Flores, and Sanchez in a row has me giddy. Damn, I wish Charleston had more NY metro area games this season.
    ///

    My first look at Feliz & just WOW WOW WOW. Anderson Effin’ Feliz is what I was sayin leaving that park. Made some mistakes,even, in the field, but that kid is a keeper! lanky & gets movin fast off the ball on defense,smooth arm & I didn’t realize he was a switch hitter. Too much of an arms hitter LH but rightside he’s really anchored. still managed to line the ball nicely from both sides.

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Joeman,that’s it for me on that topic, just not interested.

  35. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    its not a question of whether you like jeter or think he’s great , its a question of how many times are you going to say the same thing over and over and over. like this posada guy, just a one trick pony who is gonna keep posting the same sentence in 1000 different variations, they just dont stop.

    apparently the arguing is a carry over from a couple of other yankees blogs that group has kiilled over the years and now they have come here and are contributing to killing this one.

  36. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    There is a difference between constructive criticism and player bashing. I will acknowledge that players are done when the sample size proves as such, and not any sooner than that.

    Prufrock, agree on Feliz. Loved Sanchez in spite of his not being in sync yet.

    Later.

  37. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Wang IS Taiwan April 30th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Not dumb at all.
    ————————————–
    feel much better & thanks

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    well,I’ve had my lohud fill for the month! take care, all ye sane ones!

  39. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    # J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Joeman,that’s it for me on that topic, just not interested.
    ———————–
    K

  40. yankeefeminista April 30th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:29 am
    It would be great for delusional fans of Posada and Jeter if Girardi could turn back time to say 2002 or 2003 but Girardi can’t turn back time. No one can. Baseball is a young man’s sport and Posada and Jeter both have seen their best days. For Montero and Nunez their best days are ahead of them and should be able to display those better days instead of rotting on the bench or in SWB.
    ______
    2002, 2003? You missed a few very good years from both them then. Keep trying. :)

  41. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    I for one am going to stop being negative about Gardner,Joba and Nova…for me it was getting to a point where I wanted them to fail so I could do a I told you so….

  42. J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    # J. Alfred Prufrock April 30th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Joeman,that’s it for me on that topic, just not interested.
    ———————–
    K
    ///

    my apologies,no offense intended toward you. just don’t like discussing other posters at length.i made my point & that was that. have a good one.

  43. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    im just a cranky old SOB who isnt willing to give up something that alot of very good yankees fans made fun to these whiny frontrunning crybabies. but i am howling at the moon im afraid.

  44. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    2002, 2003? You missed a few very good years from both them then. Keep trying.

    Granted Jeter had a good year in 2009 but it’s still the point that they’re both over the hill. Has Jeter even hit a ball out of the infield this year? And then Nunez who’s been rotting on the bench all sesaon hits a ball the other night over the left fielder’s head, something I haven’t seen all season from the Captain. Sorry, the truth is right there in front of you. Watching Posada bounce every ball the other night and rolling it over to the 2nd baseman 4 straight times is not my idea of getting it done, sorry!

  45. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    can you imagine if they had this blog in 1938? they would be tearing lou gehrig to shreds. 1968 it would be ‘mantle is garbage!’

  46. austinmac April 30th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Posada does look like he has lost bat speed. That’s leading to starting early and swinging at awful breaking balls. I have grave doubts we will a return of the bat speed. Yes, the same may be said for Jeter, but I hold out more hope for him.

  47. Abe Peterham April 30th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Hey All,
    Im a big time reader of this blog, check it several times daily, for years.. Dont let the trolls ruin a good thing.. Lohud needs to institute ways to block/report offensive posts, we need the regulars back!
    That said, if anyone goes to a ‘rogue’ blog, let me know.
    GO YANKS!

  48. MaineYankee April 30th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:46 am
    I for one am going to stop being negative about Gardner,Joba and Nova…for me it was getting to a point where I wanted them to fail so I could do a I told you so….

    ———————————————————————————————————

    I got caught in that thought process for a short time a few years ago till I realized it was affecting my view of some players on the team.

    It spoiled my enjoyment of the whole team so I just wanted them all to succeed.

  49. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    their last two months of the reg season is scary …..with 20 total home games

  50. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Have to agree on Charleston’s talented team. It is one of the most talented teams in all of minorleaguebaseball. Heathcott who is hitting .370 with 11 2B’s already and 21 runs scored is on the fast track imo. He will be in Tampa in a couple of weeks. Gary Sanchez who is struggled early is a superstar in the making imo and I love JR Murphy and Ramon Flores is only 19 but is a versatile player and has great patience at the plate way beyond his years. It’s a great collection of talent up and down the lineup.

  51. MaineYankee April 30th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    timmyb72

    So if they play Nunez instead of Jeter and Montero instead of Posada, when they don’t perform well because like the Yankees know already(they need more time) who do you replace them with?

  52. fiveironfromfenway April 30th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Prufrock, Feminista, and TYanks – I know it has been said already, but thank you all very much for the outstanding first hand reports. It is soo limiting to just read the box scores but the first hand reports are great. Keep up the good work.
    The Yankees farm system is loaded from top to bottom. A couple of years ago it was all pitchers and virtually no position players, now it is very nicely balanced.
    BTW – Anyone notice that Romine is starting to kill it in Trenton. Joseph is also up to almost .300 and reports are his defense at 2b has come along really well.

  53. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    enough about the haters, WE NEED A WIN!

    i encourage anyone who really is a yankees fan and cares about this blog to get onto the game posts and blast these haters out of the room with positive posts!

    real yankees fans know who’s struggling and they ROOT FOR THEM TO GET BETTER!

    and believe it or not the often do! the haters wanted gardner beaten about the head and shoulders last week, last night he barely got mentioned.

    nobody came in and said, hey, i’m sorry i was wrong he isnt an aa player, they just aimed thier hatred at jeter instead.

    i say lets take back OUR BLOG from these miscreants!

    HIP HIP JORGE!!!!!!

    DEREK JETER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!1

  54. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    can you imagine if they had this blog in 1938? they would be tearing lou gehrig to shreds. 1968 it would be ‘mantle is garbage.

    Hello, are you comparing Posada and Jeter to 2 of the iconic Yankees and players of all time? Gehrig was voted the best 1B of all time. Mantle the best Switch hitter of all time. Posada is maybe the best spokesman for his son’s ailment of all time but that’s it, sadly. Jeter is not even considered the best SS of alltime.

    And that being said, yes by 1968 Mantle was indeed garbage. He wasn’t the same player he was in 1956 when he won the Triple Crown, he was a broken down physically shell of his former self. Same with Gehrig in 1938. he not the player that he was in 1927 or 1931, as great as he was he was on his last legs and tragically died of ALS soon after that.

  55. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    as long as martin keeps this up, montero can continue to develop as a catcher in aaa. its quite a position of strength to be in right now with so many teams searching for someone who can do the job. romine is tearing it up, too.

    anybody know how montero is doing behind the plate in scranton? THAT is going to determine when he comes up, not his hitting.

  56. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Why does Montero need more time? He’s already been in AAA for over a year. Has been hitting over .400 all season, now down around .360. Why does he need more time to be the fulltime DH? If he falters put Chavez in that role or A-rod/Jones and Chavez on a rotating basis. Why does Nunez need more time? He’s been in major leagues now almost a year and already 24 years old. Bring up Pena if he falters, go get someone at the trading deadline if he falters, but give him a shot at least.

  57. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Why does it matter what Montero does behind the plate if he’s the DH and maybe a once a week C? Let Cevelli get the BUC scraps.

  58. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Found these 4 consecutive posts from late lst night/early this morning amusing.
    ___________________________________________________________________________
    Ys Guy says:
    April 30, 2011 at 1:13 am
    fair weather fans are not fans at all

    Ys Guy says:
    April 30, 2011 at 1:12 am
    they didnt win today waaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!
    they didnt win by enough today waaaaahhhh!!!!!!
    they are in first place but not by enough wahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ys Guy says:
    April 30, 2011 at 1:11 am
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

    Ys Guy says:
    April 30, 2011 at 1:11 am
    this used to be a good blog for yankees fans. now we are almost all gone. whiners and crybabies have taken over and chased out the yankees fans and this blog has become a place for whiners and crybabies.
    __________________________________________________________________________________

    Talk about a crybay!

    Waaaaaaaaah! Somebody pay attention to me! Waaaaaaaaaaah!

  59. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    solid pitching matchup tonight aj vs. drabek. lackey going for the socks and big game james for the devils. we need a win!

    all that was really missing last night was the timely hit, it happens sometimes, but seems to happen more after a blowout like the other night. you cant save ‘em for when you need ‘em though!

  60. ac1 April 30th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    ok i have to get this out.
    i try to defend jeter as much as possible, but he is OFFICIALLY the most UNCLUTCH player in MLB.
    If there was one player i DONT want up with the game on the line it is him.
    When is the last time he came up with a clutch hit or even a sac fly in the 8th or 9th?
    From what i see he strikes out everytime we need a hit or a productive out out of him with the game on the line.
    ridiculous!

  61. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Prufrock

    I too agree on Feliz, saw him at the end of last season when he came up to fill in vacant spots after promotions and SI season ending, I was like who is this kid? he did something every time he was in a game, stole a base, made a good play on a ball, hit a home run. I hope to see him and more of the prospects in the summer. Right now Tampa is light on the prospects but I guess after having 2 championship teams we have to wait and let someone else experience that. We often say, when an outfielder misses a ball that “melky could have had that one” but I guess we just need to give them time.

  62. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    wishing i could go see manny b today, but i cant swing it with the broken ankle.

    fortunately we have our lohud correspondents to cover it for us and give us some inside perspective.

    and there is the ashmore blog.

    im almost afraid to mention his blog for fear that some of these haters will start attacking it, too.

  63. G. Love April 30th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Pat M said it best in the last thread. The Yankees keep spotting the other teams home games that should be in the bag. With the road schedule in the 2nd half being ridiculous with a lot of ballparks not having a porch so short in RF, this team needs to be as close to perfect now as they can be to leave them some slack in the 2nd half once the road trips get tedious.

    Hopefully, Cashman will realize the beast that the 2nd half is and find a way to inject some life into the team at the point in the season when they’ll need it.

    That said, if we took care of our business better at home, we’d be up 9-10 games on Boston and they’d be an afterthought. Instead, we’re keeping them close while they struggle. I hope it doesn’t come back and bite us later on.

    As for Jorge, the lineup cannot afford to carry a low average hitting Jorge, Jeter, Swisher, Gardner, etc. If Girardi has matchups on the bench that make more sense, it’s in his best interest to use them since this offense needs to play advantages to win.

    He should be using Chavez and Jones more at Jorge’s expense. You have enough guys hitting .240-.250 in this lineup and it will be a very long tough season.

    I get so frustrated with this team when hitters making some of the highest salaries at their position can’t hit for a decent average. Yes, the power is nice, but the only reason we had an 6 run rally the other night is because hitters made contact.

    There’s something about this team, and this goes back to the late Torre years, that they just seem to play for HR’s and that’s it.

  64. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Another reason to promote Montero is the great job Romine is doing at Trenton. Romine who is in his 2nd season at AA needs to be promoted imo. Both he and Montero have proven what they can do at their current levels. Let the kids play!!!

  65. austinmac April 30th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    I strongly believe Montero needs more plate discipline to succeed in the majors. He has 69 plate appearances this year with no walks. Yesterday, according to Donnie Collins, Peavy made him look very bad. I saw him chase too many breaking balls in the spring for my comfort level. Major league pitchers will take advantage of that.

  66. ac1 April 30th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Ys. I think we see a fine line between troll and venting. Me personally, sometimes i feel i just need to get it out, but i still love this team and believe despite flaws, they are the best team in baseball.

    They will get it together over the long season, the pen especially.
    A-Rod will get his swing back
    We will get something to add to the rotation
    We will hopefully see Montero and Banuelos this year, maybe even Betances but who knows.
    Hell, it even looks like gardner is starting to get his swing back.

    I still believe in my rant vs. Jeter though. Love him, but completely lost when you need him not to be. He could be 4-5 one night and that 5th AB would be a bases loaded strikeout in the 8th or 9th inning when we are down 1.

  67. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Ys Guy

    wish I could go see Manny pitch too but Florida is just too far away from Trenton. I will also be 100 miles further too because I am going to Port Charlotte today for my minor league baseball road trip. The Stonecrabs against the Miracle. Totally picked this game because there will be a Mauer at the game and so far my Joe has eluded me, his brother Jake is my only other option.

  68. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Tampa may be currently prospect light but that won’t last long. Heathcott is definitely on the fast track to Tampa imo and a few others currently in Charleston may be as well.

  69. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    For the record, my issue with last night’s game has very little to do with the loss, the mistakes or the wasted opportunities.

    All those things will happen over a long season multiple times and to everybody. Had the jays lost last night, they had plenty of wasted opportunities to look back on.

    My issue is with Derek Jeter.

    Everybody else in this lineup will go through good times and bad times multiple times this year… u have to ride out the bad to get back to the good.

    That is simply not the case with Jeter. He’s done, and its been obvious for a long time. Yet the Yankees either can’t or won’t bench him, and God forbid they should ever pinch hit for him with the game on the line.

    To let him bat in important late-game situations is to say his feelings are more important than the team and more important than winning.

    That makes meek sick and I feel a summer full of theses moments are coming.

  70. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    gardner seems to be coming around and jeter’s been hitting over .300 the past week or so, i think thats what’s been missing from the lineup is the top guys getting on in front of the big boomers. last night, we had the runners on with the big bats up just couldnt get the big hit.

    i think this is a sign of good things to come.

    as for the shedule issue, it is possible we will have a better rotation in the later parts of the season that may help us with that. we have been extremly fortunate with the pitching we’ve gotten from this rotation but by later in the year we will probably have traded for another good starter and manny and dellin might be options in august/early september.

    i dont think its any coincidence that both those guys have pitched so little this early in the season, its like they purposly pushed back the start of thier seasons just in case they find themselves in the bronx in the late summer.

  71. timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I disagree on the lack of plate discipline so far this season for Montero, his OBP is over .380, he hasn’t walked much so far this season because he’s been hitting everything. He’s been putting balls in play left and right. He struggled against Peavy I agree with that but who doesn’t? He’s one of the best pitchers in baseball. I’ve seen MLB allstars struggle against Peavey. Plus Montero is recovering from taking a pitch in the groin that knocked him out of the lineup for 4 days. He’s still feeling the effects imo. He needs to be in the majors plain and simple imo.

  72. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Ther’s a Jorge at SWB who had his 9th homer off Peavy yesterday and is batting >.300-Jorge Vazquez!

    Many of the Yankee losses can be attributed to what was thought to be the best bullpen in the league. The bullpenhas squandered leads or when down by a run or two has widened the opponents lead. Actually I believe, when Robertson’s ERA was ZERO he had allowed 7 inhereted runners to score-most on the team.

  73. Against All Odds April 30th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    # timmyb72 April 30th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I disagree on the lack of plate discipline so far this season for Montero, his OBP is over .380, he hasn’t walked much so far this season because he’s been hitting everything. He’s been putting balls in play left and right. He struggled against Peavy I agree with that but who doesn’t? He’s one of the best pitchers in baseball. I’ve seen MLB allstars struggle against Peavey. Plus Montero is recovering from taking a pitch in the groin that knocked him out of the lineup for 4 days. He’s still feeling the effects imo. He needs to be in the majors plain and simple imo.

    ———————————-

    Montero will be here but they are going to give Jorge every chance to turn it around.

  74. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    timmyb

    yeah I know. I know we have been spoiled last year and the year before, unfortunately I missed Montero and Romine because I didnt start going to the games until last season but I was fortunate enough to see Manny and Dellin pitch quite a bit. I really like offense over pitching so I am eager for some of those position players from Charleston to get promoted.

  75. MaineYankee April 30th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    So I guess some of you think Jeter is the reason they lost the game.

    I guess no one else had a chance to drive in runs and didn’t.

    Or I guess a pitcher didn’t throw a ball away that cost them.

    Only a hater would just blame Jeter.

    Go watch golf so it is only up to one person.

  76. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    whenever i see guys in aaa putting up huge #’s without any walks, im very suspicious. often thats because they are just raking on guys with inferior stuff. im glad he’s hitting but i wonder how much it would carry over. when you see can’t miss guys who raked in aaa come up and struggle, especially catchers, you have to be wary.

    but my question is always, how’s he doing behind the plate? when the yankees think he can be a mlb catcher, he will come up, till then, there is no reason not to keep him playing as much as possible.

  77. Abe Peterham April 30th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    “”austinmac April 30th, 2011 at 10:20 am
    I strongly believe Montero needs more plate discipline to succeed in the majors. He has 69 plate, no walks””

    wow, zero walks is crazy..

    As far as Jeter, gotta give him till at least June to consider ‘bashing’ him,, too many years of success. Tex has proved bad starts can improve… And his oft mentioned fielding?? better than 90% of the league, heck nunez showed what a replacement could look like..

  78. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Yankeetrader

    Robertson did let inherited runners score earlier in the month but for the past few games they have put him in with runners on and maybe a 1 or 2 run lead and he has done well. Except for tonight which was a lack of remembering basics, I think he has done his job.

  79. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    As far as Posada is concerned his replacement last night Andruw Jones was handled easily by his lifelong nemesis-off speed pitches and had 3 strikeouts.

  80. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Ys Guy

    I also think it comes down to Russell Martin, he has done remarkable since coming over to NY. It might be hard for them to want to bring up Montero and displace Martin a few times a week when Martin is doing as well as he has been doing. You see what sitting on the bench so often did to Nunez. On a side note I read that Ramiro Pena is doing good in AAA, hit his 2nd home run the other day.

  81. mick April 30th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    People are worried about away games in Aug-Sept?
    Really? When did the Yanks begin play in the NFL?
    If their s*it is together those months , they will win away games.
    If not, they won’t.
    When did 4 games in Chicago, Minn or Balt or 3 in KC , Sea or Tor scare them?

    The last 8 , 5 at home, against TB and Bost will be the most telling.

  82. austinmac April 30th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Timmy,

    You may disagree on plate discipline, but no walks and a lower OBP than batting average says otherwise.
    Twenty-one year old always have improvements needed. Plate discipline is his need. Without it, he will struggle. The difference in MLB pitchers is they can can command off speed pitches, and if Montero doesn’t lay off breaking balls off the plate he, like every other hitter, will struggle.

  83. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    I think, for as great as Kevin Long is, he needs to teach the whole lineup how to handle off speed stuff. It is their kryptonite.

  84. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    tyanks, i had the pleasure of seeing all the ‘dynasty’ guys come through aa ball in albany/colonie. it was great. the guy i fell in love with bernie watching him play and barely noticed mariano and posada. guys like kevin maas and brien taylor and gerald ‘ice’ williams were the ones everyone was watching. it was fun and there is nothing like seeing ‘your guys’ go up and do well, or in bernie’s case do awesome!

    and thanks for your reporting, i look forward to whatever morsels i can get out of the minor leagues.

  85. G. Love April 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Jeter still hasn’t reached over 100-200 at bats, so pronouncing him dead is a little early in my opinion.

    That said, I do think fans have to scale back any expectations for him. I’m not confident any sort of power is going to return to his game.

    He just might be a .265 hitting singles hitter for the rest of his career and that’s that. If that is the case, he’ll be batting 7th or 8th by the ASB. The only thing he can do to help this team is try to get on base more and work out some more walks if possible.

    I’m not confident that he turns this around, but I’m hopeful.

  86. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    tyanksfan36-

    I’m just pointing out that the preseason strength of the team- the bullpen-has not been a sure thing. In fact Robertson, and for the most part Rivera have done their jobs. Too small a sample size to comment on Carlyle or Pendleton.

  87. blake April 30th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    The Yankees are 14-9. The bullpen has blown 4 late leads (Soriano and Rivera….two of the best relievers in baseball from 2010) even if they win 3 of those games they are 17-6 right now.

    I’ve said it before but Yankee fans in general could really benefit and gain some perspective from watching other teams play occasionally. They could then see that the team they root from isn’t the only one that: blows leads, doesn’t get big hits, makes defensive mistakes etc……the Yankees have less problems than most teams, and play bad less often than the majority of teams as well.

    Yelling and screaming about every mistake or at individual players (especially ones that have track records ) is pointless and helps nothing.

    Its not even May yet….nobody knows what they have at this point or how any player is going to end up playing……

  88. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    some of the haters wanted logan released or dropped (preferably off a bridge) about 2 weeks ago.

  89. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    thinking Jeter will be up around .280 when Sept comes

  90. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Ramiro Pena is not hitting well in AAA.

    SWB stats:

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....38;cid=531

  91. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    jeter has batted .360 the past week. this while the rabble wants him beaten and run over by a truck.

  92. mick April 30th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    People are just bored.
    Does anyone think the Yanks are not making the playoffs?
    Everything will come down to pitching at that point.
    Cash is not depending on Garcia, Nova and Colon or even AJ at that point.
    That is where the problem lies, not if Arod, Posada, Jeter, Swisher or Gardner are slumping in April .
    Starting pitching is the be-all, end-all.
    Trades will be made, pitchers will be called up.
    It’s a work in progress, like this blog.
    Stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

  93. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    i have a vision of jeter conjuring up another ‘flip’ type play to save the yankees bacon in the PS this year. you cant dicount his ability to do what needs to be done at just the right time. a guy like him is invaluable in the PS.

  94. tyanksfan36 April 30th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Yankeetrader

    by doing well I meant to say that he has hit 2 home runs. I think that Pena should be up in NY as the SS/2B backup unless something happens and they have the need for a guy who can certainly get his hits like Nunez. Jeter and Cano are realistically the only guys that Pena can give breaks to since we now have Chavez and we know Robbie never takes a day off and Jeter doesnt very often.

  95. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    im quite sure that jeter will be getting regular days off moving forward. not because of his hitting, but because of his age. girardi did a masterful job of getting max production out of matsui and damon when they were here by resting them regularly despite the hatred that was thrown at him from here when he did it. he will do the same with jeter now that the schedule becomes unrelenting moving forward. same for arod

  96. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    blake-

    How’s little Joseph?

    Actually with a shutdown bullpen the Yankees might have won the 10-7 loss to the Tigers, the 9-6 loss to the Red Sox, perhaps even the 4-0 loss to the Red Sox, even though it was Beckett, it was only 1-0 before the bullpen gave up 3 runs. These were 3 other games that neither Rivera or Soriano pitched in.

    The bullpen has been shaky at a time of year when pitching is supposed to be ahead of the hitters.

  97. David in Cal April 30th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    The obvious solution is to cut Posada and make Montero the regular DH. However, I don’t think the Yanks will be hard-hearted enough to let Posada go. At least, not yet…

  98. mick April 30th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    There’s something about this team, and this goes back to the late Torre years, that they just seem to play for HR’s and that’s it.
    =======================
    Yeah, lefty bats like Tex, Grandy, Cano, Swish even Posada playing one-half their games with that short RF porch will do it everytime.

  99. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    alot of people here will be shocked if motero comes up and struggles when he gets here. especially if he gets spotty ab’s. i’ve got news for you guys, there are alot more saltalamaccia’s and weiters in the world than longoria’s.

    how many ab’s of sub .270 hitting by montero would it take before all the haters on here want him demoted to staten island?

  100. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    # mick April 30th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    People are just bored.
    Does anyone think the Yanks are not making the playoffs?
    Everything will come down to pitching at that point.
    Cash is not depending on Garcia, Nova and Colon or even AJ at that point.
    That is where the problem lies, not if Arod, Posada, Jeter, Swisher or Gardner are slumping in April .
    Starting pitching is the be-all, end-all.
    Trades will be made, pitchers will be called up.
    It’s a work in progress, like this blog.
    Stop feeling sorry for yourselves.
    —————————
    I’m a new man no more complaining just going with the flow

  101. mick April 30th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    The obvious solution is to cut Posada and make Montero the regular DH. However, I don’t think the Yanks will be hard-hearted enough to let Posada go. At least, not yet
    ================================================
    Posada has the month of May to prove himself or they will find a mysterious injury for him and promote Montero.

  102. austinmac April 30th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I think Vasquez would be a more likely DH call up. He has a .200 OPS higher than Montero. Let’s see of he can help as Montero develops.

  103. joeman April 30th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I’m rooting for Po this year then it’s bye bye..

  104. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Actually a platoon at DH of Jorge Vazquez and Chavez might make sense, but Posada will be given every chance to find his stroke first. Andruw Jones is striking out nearly at the same rate as Posada.

    When baseball expands next year to an extra playoff team, it’s going to be harder for Cashman to trade for pitching in midseason, as many teams will still be in the hunt.

  105. Ys Guy April 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    posada will get chances to get in the swing, and he will at some point. and he will struggle at others. so will jones and chavez. but together you have a great dh/bench situation.

  106. blake April 30th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Trader,
    he’s doin great….growin like a weed. I agree regarding the pen….I think it’ll be better .

  107. mick April 30th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    The pitching staff is more important than the hitting woes.
    They will hit, maybe not together, but they will hit.
    Wait and see if Garcia has another bad one, or Nova and Colon slip.
    This is the cornerstone of the staff we are dependent on.
    If they slide then the panic will start.

  108. Yankee Trader April 30th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Anyone think Millwood will be called up, despite a poor outing, by Sunday. I think there are other teams out there in need of starting pitching that would sign him. The Red Sox just lost Matsuzaka.

  109. austinmac April 30th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    I give Garcia a lot of credit. He can be fairly effective without much stuff. He will have days with control issues as he must pitch to the corners. We see what happens to balls that are centered.

    That said, he will likely be the one replaced if a sub can be found.

    I am glad Betances is back pitching. His line from yesterday was impressive. He has a chance to be very good.

  110. Tar April 30th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Y’s Guy

    Just remember, the most important person ( the manager) agrees with you, and Maine, and Blake and………. :D

    Been real busy, but when I get a chance I will join you on game thread for some fun!

  111. blake April 30th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Yea I agree…..Garcia will compete that’s for sure, he’s not going to be great every outing but I think he’ll give them a chance to win in most of them and that’s really what you want out of a #5.

  112. mick April 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Without Andy in the middle of the rotation, there is a big hole.

    Hughes 18 wins are also sorely missed.

    It seems like a house of cards.

  113. mick April 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Tampa is still the #1 team to be reckoned with because of their starting pitching.
    Quietly they have been under the radar.

  114. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Its not that Jeter is the ONLY reason the yakees lost… its not EVEN that the yankees lost…

    Its that letting Jeter bat there is wasting an out in a game-changing opportunity. Swish didn’t come through, arod didn’t come through… but at least they have the talent required to give them a CHANCE.

    Jeter’s talent is gone.

    And the whole “he’s hit .300 the last week” is a joke.

    Look at the “hits” … infield rollers and bleeders… how many “hits” left the infield? … when’s the last time Jeter hit a ball even to the warning track? Or close to it?

  115. Against All Odds April 30th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    # mick April 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Without Andy in the middle of the rotation, there is a big hole.

    Hughes 18 wins are also sorely missed.

    It seems like a house of cards.

    ———————————–

    Not just this yr but going forward as well. Yankees have some rotation issues

  116. BD (Boston Dave) April 30th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    “Not just this yr but going forward as well. Yankees have some rotation issues”

    —————

    if you make the poor assumption that none of the Yankees young arms will contribute at a high level, then yes.

    Is Nova already a bust? Will Banuelos contribute in 2012?

    The Yankees will always have the $$ to spend on the free agent market. Maybe it won’t be for elite “Cliff Lee” types, because of their scarcity on the open market, but they will always be able to fill holes.

    Though, doesn’t their rotation depth make it even more critical to keep CC in pinstripes by offering him a couple years extension to get rid of that opt-out option?

  117. Against All Odds April 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Even if those arms do contribute there will be bumps in the road for them because nothing ever goes according to plan.

  118. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Everyone gets old. As long as every player on the roster is treated the same when there is a potentially more productive alternative, I’m fine with moving on at some point.

  119. West Coast Yankee Fan April 30th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    This “giving the team a chance to win” is a stategy fraught with peril. Our bats disappear for long stretches.

  120. Giuseppe Franco April 30th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    And their bats carry the team for long stretches, too.

  121. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    This is still the best offense in MLB. The only question is can it be made better.

  122. blake April 30th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    “giving your team a chance to win” isn’t a strategy …..its what every team hopes for out of the back end of their rotation.

  123. Bo knows April 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    The problem with Jeter is two fold. One is he is getting older, can’t do much about that. The major problem is that his swing is disconnected, it’s all arms. Every player has to adjust a number of times throughout his career. Jeter amazingly, hasn’t had to do this. The crux of the matter is, will he be able to do this at this time. It is very difficult to do this during the season under the spotlight. He either will or he won’t. Stay tuned.

    Screaming insults on a blog is akin to holding your breath till you turn purple.

  124. Tar April 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    This team can make the post-season while carrying some bats that are not being as productive as they should be. Think Granderson last year.

    As long as they play good D, and pick the right spots to get hot.

    Rich

    Veterans and big contracts are not treated the same way. You know that, it has always been that way.

  125. West Coast Yankee Fan April 30th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Well hopefully on those days that Garcia struggles, because we know there will be more, we don’t go ofer with no outs and the bases loaded. The RISP will kill you. It seems as if we are being less patient at the plate as well but we are second in the AL in OBP.

  126. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Obviously, we have no idea if Jeter can adjust. I think the AS break is a more than fair timetable to make the assessment. At that point, Nunez should probably get more PT if Jeter isn’t hitting.

    The next question, imo, is should Jeter be moved down in the lineup before than if he isn’t adjusting, say by June 15th.

    But it’s still only one month in, so I would not make any final judgments on Jeter or Posada now. They may both bounce back in a big way.

  127. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Tar

    That’s why I have laid out the timetable above. It accounts for the contracts and well-earned status of both.

    It would actually be shorter for Posada, say June 1st. So Jeter would get a month and half more.

    I don’t think you could give them the whole season.

  128. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Jeter hs been trying to “do this” since last June. No luck.

    gardner was coming off a GREAT season, and he’s young. Took him 2 weeks to lose his half of the leadoff job… thbis very article is abojt posada losing playing time after 4 weeks of poor performance.

    Derek jeter has sucked since last June yet still plays ss and hits leadoff every day. We can’t even pinch hit for him in the eighth ining with the game on the line.

  129. Vineyard Yankee April 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Just a small stretch of consistency with the bats would be nice to go with the great starting pitching we have been getting. It’s time to go on a winning streak, say 12 out of 15.

    This inconsistency is killing us right now even though we are in 1st Place.

  130. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    But it’s still only one month in…
    _____________________________________

    So wr’re just pretending last june, july, august, september and october didn’t happen now???

  131. Mike_Boston April 30th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    YankeesNmore and timmyb72, why do you even bother here? You’re literally driving real fans away from this site. Do you have any self respect for yourselves?

  132. blake April 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    RSNM,

    You really have an unhealthy obsession with Derek Jeter…..did you treat Nomar this way?

  133. Vineyard Yankee April 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    I believe that Jeter has been trying to adapt to his new stroke at the plate since he spent time this past offseason with Kevin Long. Jeter will be fine given a bit more time to get the stroke down.

  134. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    “So wr’re just pretending last june, july, august, september and october didn’t happen now???”

    No, but we are also going to acknowledge that 2009 happened, and recognize that those skills might return, even if somewhat attenuated.

    It’s not like Jose Reyes is on the bench being blocked.

  135. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Could not care less about what you think, Mike_Boston. If people have to run from the truth, let em run.

    Its a public message board.

  136. Giuseppe Franco April 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    You must care about what some people think or you wouldn’t come here almost everyday to annoy Lohudders with your stupidity.

  137. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Its not 2002 anymore… guys don’t “refnd their lost skills” at 36 anymore.

  138. Tar April 30th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Rich

    I think they could go the whole year with Jeter struggling. Bad Jeter is still league average. But it becomes problematic when it’s Jete and 4 others.

    I do agreePo is on a shorter leash.

    As for the line-up, It would have been great if Gardner started hot. For me it’s a non – issue this year. If Joe thinks it’s going to help he should move Jeter down today. It wouldn’ t bother me at all.

  139. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    What specifically di I say that qualifies as “stupid,” mr. Franco?

  140. Mike_Boston April 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    No one is running you fool. Normal fans don’t like reading ‘sky is falling’ trash from maniacs like you every day, it’s extremely tedious. If you had any semblance of a life you would clearly recognize this…

  141. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Bad Jeter is still league average.
    ———————————-
    At last check, jeter ranked 189th of 196 qalifiers in slugging percentage.

    Hardly “league average”

  142. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    “Its not 2002 anymore… guys don’t “refnd their lost skills” at 36 anymore.”

    See, I don’t think it’s worth putting you down because you do such a good job of it yourself.

    2009 was not that long ago. It’s not uncommon for aging players to follow up a down year with a productive one.

    And again, who do the Yankees have that is guaranteed to do better?

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  144. Vineyard Yankee April 30th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    This is funny, people saying that they are annoyed at others comments. Just blow past them and don’t respond if you don’t like what they say.

    On the other hand you can always go take the dog for a walk and come back to the blog later.

  145. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

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  146. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Tar

    They could, but I don’t think they should. Not that he wouldn’t play at all, but if his slash line is exactly the same in mid-July as it is not, I think Nunez needs to play at least twice a week (three if he hits and doesn’t suck in the field). That way, Jeter would still have the opportunity to play the majority of time and right himself.

    I like Granderson at leadoff v. RHP right now. Jeter can remain v. LHP.

  147. Vineyard Yankee April 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    At last check, jeter ranked 189th of 196 qalifiers in slugging percentage.

    Hardly “league average”

    ==================

    Slugging Percentage from a Yankee SS on this team is not really important. I would rather he improve his OBP.

  148. Bo knows April 30th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Where is Molitor now that Jeter needs him? Would be the perfect tutor.

    Jeter will either adjust or he won’t. A Rod is next, he’s in transition as we speak.

    Yay Cano. How about that masher. Holy Canoli, is he smokin

  149. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Rich, I honestly don’t believe you recognize what your seeing. Opposingv pitchers haven’t shown Jeter ANY respect since at least last June.

    That’s makes it pretty clear what the scouts are saying about him.

  150. 108 stitches April 30th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    There’s no room for sentimentality in this game. Age and the most demanding position in the game has taken it’s toll on Jorge from his years of catching. Jeter isn’t far behind.
    They have to deal with the realization that their careers have reached the end point.

  151. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I would rather he improve his OBP.
    —————————————-
    Good luck. He has no bat speed left.

  152. UnKnown April 30th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    No Alex today. Maybe a day off will be good for him.

  153. Giuseppe Franco April 30th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Just as Mike_Boston said, the same “sky is falling” crap every single day in here regarding a team that’s likely to win 95 games and make the postseason for the 16th time in the last 17 years.

    Threads littered with that kind of tripe is the reason why a lot of people don’t even bother coming here after a Yankee loss – or during the game for that matter.

  154. UnKnown April 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

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  155. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    YankeesNmore

    Respect? Please.

    At least break it down properly. He hit: .321 .391 .481 .872 v. LHP in 2010.

    Are you not aware of that?

    Yes, his bat speed v. RHP appears to have diminished a bit. So he’s trying to make adjustments to compensate for that loss.

    It’s too early to say he won’t be able to do that at this point.

  156. YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    That’s on them, mr. Franco.

    Public messag board

  157. Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    “Yay Cano. How about that masher. Holy Canoli, is he smokin”

    That’s why it would be insane to trade Montero. They need another young high-end bat.

  158. Tar April 30th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    YNM

    For the record, I think you are a troublemaker and an idiot. This is the last response you will be getting from me.

    Rich

    I am for Nunez getting more playing time. I do not want to see Jeter play 150 plus games this year. It’s not good for him or the Team.

  159. Giuseppe Franco April 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    # YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    That’s on them, mr. Franco.

    Public messag board

    ———

    No, that’s on you. There’s a lot more of us than there are of you.

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    I’m not concerned at all about Jeter’s contract, he deserved it for who and what he is and the Yankees who cut payroll this year can afford carrying it easily. He has great value to the team as the captain, an icon and a role model, intangibles of great value, especially to the younger players. This often gets overlooked by fans, understandably, they’re not in the clubhouse.

    Winning games is a different story and eventually the powers that be will do the right thing when they feel the evidence of poor performance is overwhelming. In Jeter’s case, one month is not enough especially since he is playing well at shortstop. In POsada’s case it is; all he is asked to do in the DH role is hit.

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    Normy–You have been much more coherent lately–with full paragraphs and logic. Good for you! I may or may not agree with whatever point you bring up at a particular time, but stating your reasons and logic leads to better discussions. So thanks for the effort.

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  164. BoJo April 30th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

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    No…was talking to YNM

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