Today’s Lineup vs. Blue Jays (Updated with A-Rod explanation)
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Apr 30, 2011 
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Hey all, Sam here today. No A-Rod in the lineup; check back for more later.
Jeter SS
Granderson CF
Teixeira 1b
Cano 2b
Swisher RF
Chavez 3b
Posada DH
Martin C
Gardner LF
UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: Just a regular day off for A-Rod, who has played seven in a row, Girardi said.
That’s why it would be insane to trade Montero. They need another young high-end bat.
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especially with the Jeter, Alex, and Posada getting older. I would also love to get Tulo but that’s a pipe dream.
Actually glad the Yanks can give guys like Alex occasional days off.
Chavez allows them to do that.
Are we sure it’s a day off? A rather cryptic “check back for more later” from Sam.
I’m not concerned at all about Jeter’s contract, he deserved it for who and what he is and the Yankees who cut payroll this year can afford carrying it easily. He has great value to the team as the captain, an icon and a role model, intangibles of great value, especially to the younger players. This often gets overlooked by fans, understandably, they’re not in the clubhouse.
Winning games is a different story and eventually the powers that be will do the right thing when they feel the evidence of poor performance is overwhelming. In Jeter’s case, one month is not enough especially since he is playing well at shortstop. In POsada’s case it is; all he is asked to do in the DH role is hit.
Sounds like the Sawx dodged a major bullet with Daisuke. Optimism out of Boston that he’ll make his next start.
Of course, once he reverts to his usual 5 inning, 3-4 run, 105 pitch performances, the optimism will fade.
Nice post WCYF
Would fans care as much about Jeter’s slow start if he had signed a 3yr/$9M deal?
If not, then that $$ needs to be viewed simply in terms of opportunity cost. If, and it’s a big IF, Jeter being on the team is costing the Yanks so much $$ and in turn that prevents them from making moves they would have made if not for the money, ok.
I don’t know Jeter’s real value to the Yankees, but I have a feeling he was, is, and will be financially beneficial for them.
If that’s the case, crying about how much they paid Jete is a monstrous waste of time.
Now, arguing that he should be at the bottom of the lineup is a different story.
p.s. I don’t think Jose Reyes will end up being a good signing, for whoever pays him big $$. So, unless you’d rather have JJ Hardy playing SS for the Yanks, Jeter will suffice, at the very least.
That said, my $20 bet that jeter’s 3000th hit will be a single is looking like one of the safest bets I’ve ever made.
Hey! Captain Crap batting leadoff and playing shortstop. That’s refreshing!
Would fans care as much about Jeter’s slow start if he had signed a 3yr/$9M deal?
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If they insisted on batting him leadoff and never pinch hitting for him under any circumstance, ABSOLUTELY I would care as much!
Question:
YankeesNmore April 30th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
What specifically di I say that qualifies as “stupid,” mr. Franco?
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Answer:
YankeesNmore April 29th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
The Yankees, thanks to their own incompetence/inability to make an emotional (but EASY) decision, DESPERATELY need Derek Jeter to suffer a serious injury.
The day that happens is the day the Yankees are both off the hook and a significantly better team.
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In this particular case, make it stupid and creepy. Cataloging all of your inane observations on this blog would be an extraordinarily laborious activity, so I imagine that you’ll have a hard time finding somebody willing to undertake the effort. Suffice it to say that your futility in making a thoughtful and useful post far exceeds any futility that Jeter has had at the plate this year (or last year, for that matter).
Jorge Vazquez’s numbers are just ridiculous: .337 .357 .663 1.020, with 9 HR’s/ 27 RBI’s. He was mashing in ST and hasn’t stopped.
Time for the Rays vs Angels.
Arod just DHed the other day so I doubt it’s just a day off. He has been struggling the last couple of days so maybe he has a small injury.
I don’t have a problem with Jeter being the shortstop. My only issue is how long will the Yankees keep him at the leadoff spot if he continues to struggle. Not just this year but for the remainder of his contract.
RS,
no doubt about that.
But truthfully it’s been one month. It’s something that needs to be discussed, but I don’t think it’s something they need to act on quite yet.
Mike_Boston April 30th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Jorge Vazquez’s numbers are just ridiculous: .337 .357 .663 1.020, with 9 HR’s/ 27 RBI’s. He was mashing in ST and hasn’t stopped.
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An improvement over Posada allowing Montero more time to work behind the dish at SWB.
I am wondering what if anything is wrong with A-Rod. His performance has fallen dramatically since the oblique issue; I hope it’s nothing but he may be getting a bit more fragile with age.
Fingers crossed.
Every thing I said there is spot on, mr. Franco. The da jeter gets hurt is the day the yankees become a better baseball team.
WCYF:
Girardi’s R & R schedule. That’s what his binder says.
Jeter’s contract is a sunk cost, it only matters if prevents them from giving a big contract to another SS, should that prove necessary.
Even if you give him the entire season, if he continues to hit like he is hitting now, it wouldn’t make sense to start him next season.
Again, I think he will hit to an acceptable level for a SS, but that’s a guess.
If people are concerned about Montero’s plate discipline, the last person you would want to see is Jorge Vazquez.
UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: Just a regular day off for A-Rod, who has played seven in a row, Girardi said.
# Tom in N.J. April 30th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: Just a regular day off for A-Rod, who has played seven in a row, Girardi said.
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panic level downgraded
Thanks for the update Tom. That’s good news!
First of all I think some of you put too much emphasis on who hits lead- off.
Would batting .455 leading off the game be good enough? How about .333 leading off an inning?
Say hello to Derek Jeter’s 2011 stats.
Thank Sam it’s his report….
Amazing how weak the lineup looks w/out Arod in it.
Expect Cano to see nothing to hit today.
Swish 5th is just plain bad.
Tar
I think the most important thing to consider in lineup construction is putting your best hitters at the top of the lineup to get them a not insignificant number of extra AB over the course of the season.
The rest is randomness, imo.
If you knew that the Yanks would be w/out Pettitte and Hughes, would you think we’d be 14-9 at this point?
That’s why I say we are a House of Cards.
Imagine if we were 9-14?!?! This place would be in a panic.
I think the most important thing to consider in lineup construction is putting your best hitters at the top of the lineup to get them a not insignificant number of extra AB over the course of the season.
The rest is randomness, imo.
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Disagree.
If your lineup dies after Cano, who protects him?
He gets nothing to hit.
# mick April 30th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
If you knew that the Yanks would be w/out Pettitte and Hughes, would you think we’d be 14-9 at this point?
That’s why I say we are a House of Cards.
Imagine if we were 9-14?!?! This place would be in a panic.
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if they were 9-14 there would be screams of fire Cashman
To put Rich’s comment in perspective.
Grandy and Jeter have played the same number of games, but Jetes has 9 more PA.
Same with Jetes and Martin but has Jetes has 18 more PA.
Rich
I know you think that way, and I do get that.
I don’t believe the vast majority of line- up lead off complaints are thinking about P.A. Over the course of the year however.
Cano has played one more game than Jeter yet they have the same number of PA.
They are 5 games over .500 .
Most baseball fans, these days , have football mentalities.
They think of home and away schedules instead of pitching staffs.
I worry that 80% of our pitching staff is iffy.
LGY
If you bat Grandy first who bats second?
if they were 9-14 there would be screams of fire Cashman
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the same ones who are lauding him for the brilliant pickups would kill him
I suspect some people would still complain about Jeter no matter where he hits in the lineup.
Normally I would say Swisher, but Martin’s approach has really impressed me so I would be inclined to see how he would do hitting 2nd.
Rich in NJ April 30th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Jeter’s contract is a sunk cost, it only matters if prevents them from giving a big contract to another SS, should that prove necessary.
Even if you give him the entire season, if he continues to hit like he is hitting now, it wouldn’t make sense to start him next season.
Again, I think he will hit to an acceptable level for a SS, but that’s a guess.
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This rings true to me. Jeter’s new contract is irrelevant for any decision-making going forward, assuming that it doesn’t preclude the Yanks from pursuing other viable alternatives.
At a similar stage in his career, paulo Molitor went through a rough patch, and was able to recover enough to be successful during his last couple years. So, it wouldn’t be unprecedented to have a late career renaissance. I don’t think that Jeter yet has figured out how to solve his struggles, but it’s way too soon to write off Jeter. He has shown some signs over the last couple weeks, so I expect that the Yanks will continue to exercise patience with him, assuming that he can maintain an OBP in the neighborhood of about .340 (it’s been .333 during the last couple weeks and .336 over the last year).
However, if Jeter starts showing signs of regressing, particularly if Gardner and Granderson continue to demonstrate improvement or if the Yanks go on an extended losing streak, then the Yanks may have no choice but to drop Jeter in the batting order.
Somehow I felt more confident last year with CC-Andy-Hughes over CC-AJ etc.. this year .
If you bat Grandy first who bats second?
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Grandy should be hitting 5th today.
LGY
Fair enough. That might be kind of cool Grandy-Martin.
I have been one who always wanted to see Alex bat third. By your above stated logic can I assume you agree with me?
the yankees will never move jeter in the lineup
mick April 30th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
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Me too. I think that all of this talk about Jeter misses the actual critical issues that the Yanks face. Their primary problem is the starting rotation. So, far it looks great on the surface, but on closer inspection it seems frail–Colon’s rebirth this year is nothing short of miraculous. Can we expect it to continue? Excluding 2011, his last 3 or 4 years strongly suggest that we can’t. Garcia has been someshat less impressive than Colon, but I think that he is more likely to maintain his current level of performance than Colon. If either of them falter, then Cashman is going to have to come up with something good.
The Yanks’ second main problem is over-reliance on the home run, leading to inconsistency in run production. It’s a problem that they had last year, and we’ve seen glimpes of it again this year. Given the state of our rotation, the Yanks can’t afford to lose games when they hold the opposing team to 3 runs or less. We’ve got to win those, and we can’t have the bullpen giving away hard-earned leads.
Triple Short of a Cycle April 30th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
the yankees will never move jeter in the lineup
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Idon’t see why not–They’ve already done it twice this year…
Sorry to feel this way, but Jeter at short is a huge negative,time has caught up to him