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No Jeter, No A-Rod in Yankees lineup

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 05, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner LF
Nick Swisher RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson CF
Jorge Posada DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez SS

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227 Responses to “No Jeter, No A-Rod in Yankees lineup”

  1. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Is Joe aware of how well Martin has hit this season?

    Move the man up in the lineup! :mad:

  2. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    I’m liking the Cano/Tex flip. Usually Robbie hits cleanup when Alex sits.

  3. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Why does Swisher and Posada continue to bat so high in the lineup at the expense of Granderson,Chavez and Martin?

  4. Don Vito A. Bellamo May 5th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    No worries, its these games without our superstars that people worry about that we win easily. 7-3 Yankees….BOOK IT, Dan-O ! :-)

  5. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Jeter saw he wasn’t in the lineup and shook his head. He really needs to grow up

  6. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    “Is Joe aware of how well Martin has hit this season?”

    6 for his last 30.

    Small sample obviously, but so was the 18 for 54 that he started the year with. He’s where he should be as bottom 3rd of the order guy on this team, IMO.

  7. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Mell,

    and Swisher belongs in the top third?

  8. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    After last night’s performance, Freddy “The Chief” Garcia is striking out 8.3 batters per 9 this season.

  9. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Jeter saw he wasn’t in the lineup and shook his head. He really needs to grow up

    ==========

    He’s probably a little frustrated on a number of levels (struggles at the plate, hip, etc). He’s always been a guy who wants to be in there everyday. Nothing wrong with that. Girardi’s doing the right thing with both Jeter and Rodriguez, IMO.

  10. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
    Jeter saw he wasn’t in the lineup and shook his head. He really needs to grow up

    __________________________________________________________
    Not sure if this is sarcasm? If not, really??? o_O. The man shook his head because he wants to play, he didn’t run around throwing a temper tantrum.

  11. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    These guys want to be in there every day…especially Jeter who is starting to look a little more comfortable at the plate the last few games. It’s not a all unusual for a competitive athlete to be irritaed at not being in the lineup when they feel fine to play.

  12. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
    Jeter saw he wasn?t in the lineup and shook his head. He really needs to grow up

    *******************
    did you witness this???

  13. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Trip:

    Oddly enough, Swisher is 10 for 29 (.340-something) in the 2 hole this season and did pretty well there last season over 350 or so at bats.

  14. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    did you witness this???

    ==============

    Wallace Matthews indicated that he witnessed it in a tweet.

  15. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Mell May 5th, 2011 at 10:25 am
    did you witness this???

    ==============

    Wallace Matthews indicated that he witnessed it in a tweet.

    *********************
    thanks Mell. That’s the one beat writer I refuse to follow. lol

  16. I Like Inge May 5th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    To say Jeter needs to grow up is silly. He’s a grown man. All he does is play hard and act responsibly. You can get on him for his hitting groundballs but don’t get on the guy for the way he acts. He wants to play and is not in the line up of course he is going to be pissed. All he does is play hard, work hard, and show commitment to the team.

  17. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Oddly enough, Swisher is 10 for 29 (.340-something) in the 2 hole this season and did pretty well there last season over 350 or so at bats.

    —-

    He hasnt had a problem from the right side this,tear which is when he usually hits 2nd

  18. upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Well my line up was a little off, but at least I guessed who would be playing.

    I would be disappointed if Jeter wasn’t disappointed at not playing.

  19. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Swish has kind of been like Tex usually does in the early going.

    Way better from the right side but lost from the left side.

  20. Against All Odds May 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    # upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    I would give Alex and Jeet both the day off

    ——————————————–

    Your wish has been granted

  21. bruceb May 5th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    This is what you get when you sign older players to ridiculous long-term contracts…they are frequently injured and they go through prolonged slumps.

  22. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Jeter also acted like a child with the whole Arod situation. Showing him up on the field during the popup. Refusing to make a statement to the fans when they were booing AROD every at bat even though he was asked. Arod also acted like a child during those years as well.

    He is sarcastic and snippy with reporters all the time.

    Of course I rooted for him and will continue to root for him but I never liked him as much as Pettitte,Rivera or Oneill

  23. ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Jeter just glanced at the lineup card and shook his head when he saw he wasn’t on it
    ___

    I have that same reaction everytime Jeter strikes out or weakly grounds out with RISP.

  24. upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    AAO
    my real wish is to have a post w/ no Jeter bashing, but I guess that is too much to ask for

  25. 38HotDogs May 5th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Obviously I am not in that clubhouse but I am wondering if Jeter and Posada, not happy with what transpired this off season have brought a dour mood over the team. There seems to be a tightness and the guys look like they are not having fun, even when they are winning. Or maybe it’s just a by product of the lousy weather so far

  26. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    YankeesWFAN Todays lineup a good example of why Chavez is important. Hard to give both Jeter and ARod a day if Nunez and Pena were the backups.

  27. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    I didn’t know that you could actually SEE a head shake on twitter. I’ve got to upgrade, obviously.

    The real question for Derek is: will there come a time when he realizes that he is no longer producing, and puts the interests of the team ahead of his personal interests, in the style of great Yankees such as Gehrig and DiMaggio, or will his ego prevent that? If it is the latter, when, if ever, will Girardi make the necessary move(s)?

  28. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    “Jeter also acted like a child with the whole Arod situation”

    do you know first hand how Arod treated Jeter?

  29. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    “Move the man up in the lineup! ”

    I have been saying that for a couple of weeks, v. RHP.

  30. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    I think I am the only Yankee fan in the western world who views Jeter objectively.

    ;)

  31. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    It’s nice to have quality back ups and I think it was the right move to rest both of them in a day game before the Texas series….however a win would be nice tonight. I’m thinking a fresh start at the Ballpark in Arlington could get Alex back on track….

  32. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/y.....ples+lives!

    look at these pictures of jeter from last week, pouting on the bench and destroying team chemistry :(

  33. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    “I think I am the only Yankee fan in the western world who views Jeter objectively.”

    eh, that’s in the eye of the beholder :)

  34. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    blake,

    Are you asking if I was in the room? I believe Cash when he asked Jeter to knock it off and he refused.

    I believe Chad Curtis when he said he was shunned by Jeter because Curtis had the “gall” to call out Jeter when the team was involved in a fight and Jeter was yucking it up with Arod

  35. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    NYY626 – Retire 46

    I think the hyphenated words are premature.

    IOW:

    Pettitte in 2012

  36. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    I think with Jeter the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction…..for years he was the golden boy who could do no wrong. Now that perhaps age is showing itself a bit the fanbase has turned on him just as anyone else and the total opposite is the reality.

    Instead of getting free passes for mistakes, he’s under a magnifying glass 24/7 and every AB is picked apart bit by bit. Hopefully it will subside….

  37. upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Rich
    you just made NYY626′s day

  38. ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Can we limit the Jeter ‘critique’ to his ‘performance’ this year?

  39. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    “I believe Cash when he asked Jeter to knock it off and he refused. ”

    I believe his quote actually was something to the effect that he had tried numberous times with Alex but he kept pushing him away. They were young and probably both had egos that clashed…..it really couldn’t matter less at this point and was only brought back up to attempt to sell books.

  40. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Triple

    Aren’t you, in effect, criticizing Jeter for being both too friendly and not friendly enough to A-Rod?

  41. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Rich, nobody wants Andy to play in 2012 more than I do, I’m just too lazy to change my SN again lol. ( for the record, I dont think it’s going to happen).

  42. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    all in all though Rich….you are pretty objective.

  43. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Sure, how about an OPS of .537 against right handed pitchers? Does that work for you?

  44. ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Instead of getting free passes for mistakes, he’s under a magnifying glass 24/7 and every AB is picked apart bit by bit. Hopefully it will subside….

    ___

    Blake, it will subside when Jeter starts being a little productive. Until he gets that key hit in the game, the fact remains he is under a microscope because he isnt hitting well, or with RISP.

    I think we would all be thrilled if he broke out and hit .300. No one is wishing him to fail, but there is only so much time a yankees fan base will stay quiet, even for the core.

  45. upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    this constant bashing of older players seems so red-soxish to me

  46. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    ac1,

    it’s all anyone talks about though. If anyone has paid attention he has been swinging the bat better lately….Tuesday was the best swings he’s had all season and he managed to hit a line drive up the middle yesterday against a pitcher that dominated the entire game.

    I’m choosing to focus on those things….

  47. Against All Odds May 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    # upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    AAO
    my real wish is to have a post w/ no Jeter bashing, but I guess that is too much to ask for

    ——————————————–

    Yes that is too much to ask for. I’m surprised the attacks on him occur daily whether the post is about him or not.

  48. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    kate: right – the constant bashing of Phil is somehow ok though?

  49. ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    this constant bashing of older players seems so red-soxish to me

    ___

    i agree on the personal stuff.
    who cares how he treated a-rod?
    alex is a big boy he can handle it

    if you mean the bashing over what he is doing at the plate, i think age has very little to do with it.

    see how people react to gardner or swisher when they arent hitting.
    it isnt just posada and jeter.

  50. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Rich in NJ,

    It is not questioning how friendly or not friendly he is it is to point out how childish he is and the way he deals with people who he might have a disagreement with

  51. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    if fans get on every player that isn’t hitting then they should understand that everyone struggles at times in this game.

  52. Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    I don’t have any way of telling whether Jeter is in a slump or through as a good hitter. I don’t believe anyone who comments here does either. Jeter is an all-time great, and I think he’s earned the right not to hear it from the fans, especially Yankee fans, at this point at least.

    The Yankees gave him a huge contract and he’s going to play. There’s no young Troy Tulowitzki he’s keeping off the field by playing. The Yanks aren’t exactly struggling to compete either.

    Given all that, I think we should just sit back and let it play out.

  53. ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    it’s all anyone talks about though. If anyone has paid attention he has been swinging the bat better lately….Tuesday was the best swings he’s had all season and he managed to hit a line drive up the middle yesterday against a pitcher that dominated the entire game.

    I’m choosing to focus on those things

    _____

    I agree, and i TRY to do that as well.
    Jeter has been my favorite player since he came up in 1995-1996.
    I would love nothing more than for him to be somewhat productive and end most of this.
    Again, my ONLY issue is his ABs late in games or with RISP.
    Not his age, his fielding, or even his hitting over all.
    If he hits 150 singles, thats fine, as long as a few of them come in clutch situations.

  54. G. Love May 5th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    blake,

    I know my issue with Jeter goes back to last season’s performance and the team covering their collective eyes at what was happening.

    You give him a fresh slate this year and I thought he’d come out with a chip on his shoulder and tear it up in the first month and instead he looks worse at the plate than last season.

    It’s not 100 at bats most of us are reacting to. It’s 2010 + the 100 at bats.

    It’s also very hard watching a player who could be relied on fail. I went through this with Donnie when the back troubles took over the talent.

    In Donnie’s case, he left the 3 spot to a more capable hitter, the team got better and Donnie was still part of something special.

    The way the Yankees handle Derek Jeter suggests to a lot of us that he sees any doubters as a slap in the face and the team is terrified of Jeter waking up on the wrong side of the bed.

    His vendetta with Arod coupled with Arod’s immaturity/insecurity created a bad clubhouse here where the GM had to go to CC and throw bags of money at him and ask him to help fiux the clubhouse.

    I don’t hate Jeter. I don’t want to see him fail. But I’m getting more and more convinced that the days of him being a valuable hitter in our lineup are over and there is no reason he should be leading games off getting the most plate appearances of any hitter on this team. That’s bad managing.

    Last night LGY said Tex hits far better with RISP and worse with no one on base. Maybe if Jeter got on base once in awhile and there were some ducks in the pond Tex would be hitting higher than .260.

    As Joe Posnarski said on SI a lot of us are at the point with Jeter that we’re hoping for miracles.

    If anyone has it in him, it’s Jeter. That said, he’s not a top of the order hitter on any team in baseball except the Yankees and that’s only because of his name and legend.

    Donnie had to step down from the 3 spot and be a team player. So does Jeter and if his manager is too frightened to deal with that, we have a problem.

  55. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I also think part of the reason why people might have turned on Jeter was how the negotiations played out. Some people on here were shouting down others who didn’t think he deserved a blank check just because his name was Jeter and what he did in the past

  56. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Jeter’s lead off the last 3 games with a hit if I remember correctly, so he is getting on base for Teixeira….

  57. ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Rich Hill and Scott Atchison are here… Hearing Jenks and Wheeler to the DL. #RedSox
    _____

    Really?
    Can you go to the DL for sucking?

    Before anyone says, ” ask Phil Hughes “, im going to say that Phil obviously had something wrong because of the velo, but Wheeler and Jenks were throwing just as hard as last year, but really bad.

  58. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    ac1 May 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
    Rich Hill and Scott Atchison are here? Hearing Jenks and Wheeler to the DL. #RedSox
    _____

    Really?
    Can you go to the DL for sucking?

    **************************

    :lol:

  59. Against All Odds May 5th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    # Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I also think part of the reason why people might have turned on Jeter was how the negotiations played out. Some people on here were shouting down others who didn’t think he deserved a blank check just because his name was Jeter and what he did in the past

    —————————————-

    I understand but sometimes ppl make it personal. There was someone on RAB that said Jeter potentially missing a couple of games was the first good news of the day.

  60. upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    If people want to complain about performance, fine. Not my thing, but I can understand it. It is all the personal attacks by people that have no idea what is really going on in the club house that I find annoying. And I feel that way about all the players (yes, Niblick, Phil is one of my favs). There is no one on the current team I don’t like.

  61. blake May 5th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    “I know my issue with Jeter goes back to last season’s performance and the team covering their collective eyes at what was happening. ”

    1 bad season with a very long track record of success and no clear replacement at SS is what they were thinking. He had just come off an MVP type season the year before. I get what you’re saying…I do. I just think that it needs to play out and that talking about it every day is pointless.

    The Yankees will give Jeter until the all star break to come out of this and start looking more like himself….if he isn’t then he will be moved down the lineup against RHPing.

    I think much of the concern is that the Yankees are just going to leave him in the leadoff spot forever as a figure head even if he’s not performing…..they won’t….they never have operated like that and they won’t now. Lets just sit back and see what happens.

  62. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Triple

    But aren’t we basing the characterization largely on hearsay?

    I can’t recall a lot of direct quotes from the parties on the issues.

    It’s usually, x said that y said this or that.

  63. I Like Inge May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    upstate kate May 5th, 2011 at 11:07 am
    If people want to complain about performance, fine. Not my thing, but I can understand it. It is all the personal attacks by people that have no idea what is really going on in the club house that I find annoying. And I feel that way about all the players (yes, Niblick, Phil is one of my favs). There is no one on the current team I don’t like.

    ——————-

    Great perspective. That’s how I feel. If you wear a Yankee uniform, I’ll root for you. If you are on a title winning team. You are golden to me. If you are on 5 title winning teams like #2, I’ll never criticize you and will always root for you. Some fanbases never see a title. Yankee fans see 5 in 15 or so years, with Cap manning short stop, and they get on him now for slumping. Makes no sense. He’s put in enough work to get respect from the fanbase.

  64. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    BloggingBombers Jeter says he’s had “zero treatment” on his hip today. Was surprised not to be in the lineup but didn’t try to talk his way in.

  65. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    BloggingBombers Jeter says he’s had “zero treatment” on his hip today. Was surprised not to be in the lineup but didn’t try to talk his way in

  66. austinmac May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    I pull for everyone on the Yankees and have since 1960. There are no exceptions. Heck, I pulled for Steve Howe. Show your concern, but if you have hostility toward a Yankee player, you should analyze what is wrong in your personal life. This is a game. It is meant to be fun for we fans. If you don’t enjoy it, go watch bowling.

  67. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    NYY626- Jinx!! ;)

  68. G. Love May 5th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    blake,

    It’s never been, at least to me, about replacing him at SS. It’s about giving one of the worst hitters in the lineup the most plate appearances on the team.

    While I agree that if he continues to struggle (and 3 hits this week don’t have me jumping for joy yet) they will be forced to move him in the lineup, I’m still not convinced that Girardi or Cashman truly want to deal with that from a media or team perspective.

    That said, Donnie had to vacate the 3 hole when he couldn’t do it anymore so time will tell.

    When I saw Jeter injured his hip last night though I got upset because I was prepared for the “Jeter is a gamer/guts it out” spin to start to explain why he can’t hit for the next 100 at bats.

    If he’s hurt and the hip is affecting his already poor hitting, he should take one for the team and get healthy and let a player who is 100% spell him like today.

  69. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    When you leave a game due to an injury, especially a night game, it’s kind of comical that you would be surprised that you weren’t in the lineup for the next game, especially a day game.

    I suspect that Jeter’s reaction was intended for media consumption.

  70. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Rich in NJ,

    There is a quote from Jeter when he said he can’t tell the fans what to think when he was asked to make a statement regarding the boos.

  71. Mike Ri May 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Even Babe Ruth got Boooooed

  72. MaineYankee May 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    It seems to me that the ones covering their eyes are the ones that think the Yankees are.

  73. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    I think maybe we should worry a bit more about Swisher. After all, he’s still young, so he doesn’t have the age explanation/excuse that Jeter has. And he plays at a position that generally expects significantly more offensive production than Jeter.

  74. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    BloggingBombers Girardi on Jeter: “He was going to get a day off sometime during this long stretch. I chose today.” Same thing with A-Rod.

    BloggingBombers Girardi said he had planned on resting Jeter today even before the hip issue came up last night.

  75. CountryClub May 5th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    BloggingBombers Mark Feinsand
    Jeter says he’s had “zero treatment” on his hip today. Was surprised not to be in the lineup but didn’t try to talk his way in.

    —————

    If he’s not hurt he should be playing. He’s finally started hitting the ball hard the past few games. No need to rest him now that his swing is looking better.

  76. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Erin May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
    NYY626- Jinx!!

    ________________________
    Heh. :)

  77. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Triple

    But isn’t that the point? Jeter never says anything of substance. I think it’s kind of disappointing, if not frustrating, at times. Nonetheless, at least from his perspective, he never says anything that would either inculpate or exculpate him in any controversial situation.

  78. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    G. Love: Jeter has been remarkably clever about exploiting his “injuries” over the years. Publicly, he always downplays them, says he’s fine and ready to play. And yet somehow, we all find out about them, and way too many are way too eager to give him a pass because of the injuries, instead of questioning whether it is better for the team to have an injured player play or to step out of the lineup until the injury heals.

  79. CountryClub May 5th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
    I think maybe we should worry a bit more about Swisher. After all, he’s still young, so he doesn’t have the age explanation/excuse that Jeter has. And he plays at a position that generally expects significantly more offensive production than Jeter.

    ————-

    Don’t worry about Swish, he started last yr almost the same way he’s started this yr.

    From RAB:

    Through the team’s first 27 games Swisher is hitting .231/.348/.297, with just one home run among his 17 hits. This isn’t anything new, really. Swisher finished last April at .250/.345/.434, hitting only two home runs and four doubles in the month.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....eks-47562/

  80. J. Alfred Prufrock May 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Show your concern, but if you have hostility toward a Yankee player, you should analyze what is wrong in your personal life.

    ///

    Spot on summary. The clenched teeth give it away.

  81. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    So when I hated Tony Womack it was really about me?????

  82. Triple Short of a Cycle May 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Rich in NJ,

    I agree. It is quite frustrating

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock May 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    No, that was likely about Tony Womack.

  84. jacksquat May 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Cano is only hitting 3rd with Tex moved to 4th to break up the lefthanded hitters.

    Even though Cano and Granderson both hit lhp well now.

    I never understood designing a lineup with fear of the LOOGY over designing it to beat the starting pitcher.

  85. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    heh

  86. hardwired7 May 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    “Girardi said he had planned on resting Jeter today even before the hip issue came up last night.”

    Girardi also claims he discussed it over breakfast with his wife, Morgan Fairchild.

  87. jacksquat May 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    And Girardi was also part of Seal Team 6 and was the one who shot OBL.

  88. Erin May 5th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    benshpigel Girardi summoning inner Ice Cube when saying why Jeter/A-Rod both got day off: “I just thought today was a good day.” #breakfastwithnohog

  89. UnKnown May 5th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Well last night sure looked like the offense was on “get away day mode” so I can’t see how mixing up the lineup is going to hurt any.

  90. NYY626 - Retire 46 May 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    in honor of cinco de mayo and because this is the lohud jeter blog…

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/.....season_27/

  91. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Even though Cano and Granderson both hit lhp well now

    ============

    Wouldn’t say Granderson is hitting lefties well (.259 OBP), but when he has hit them, he’s hit ‘em far.

  92. blake May 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    “It’s about giving one of the worst hitters in the lineup the most plate appearances on the team.”

    when he’s right he isn’t one of the worst hitters in the lineup…he’s one of the best. They want to make sure that guy isn’t coming back before making a change.

    “When I saw Jeter injured his hip last night though I got upset because I was prepared for the “Jeter is a gamer/guts it out” spin to start to explain why he can’t hit for the next 100 at bats.”

    That’s unfair. He has never made excuses ever for his play and has already said the hip isn’t an issue..

  93. Mike Ri May 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    How about that CJ Wilson !! . . . helped me big time in my fantasy baseball league . . .also a free agent next season ! . . . wink wink ! . .

  94. Rich in NJ May 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    “Girardi also claims he discussed it over breakfast with his wife, Morgan Fairchild.”

    That made me laugh.

  95. Warning Track Power May 5th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Very interesting line-up. I have to think that Jeter is slightly injured or else he would have argued his way into the starting line-up today.
    As for Alex, I have no idea what to think.
    Giving them both a day off at the same time is fine, but I guess the impact would be less if the Yankees didn’t lose their previous 2 games vs the tigers.

  96. blake May 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    They find out about the injuries because the manager or training staff is asked about it….not sure in the world we live in how those things could ever remain a secret.

  97. bruceb May 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am

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    What complete and utter nonsense. If you earned close to $20 million a year in your job yet failed to justify that money, day in and day out, wouldn’t you expect some criticism?

  98. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Well last night sure looked like the offense was on “get away day mode” so I can’t see how mixing up the lineup is going to hurt any

    ==========

    They were facing a guy who has top of the rotation stuff and happened to have his “A” game going on last night. It was more about the pitcher than it was the hitters.

  99. Against All Odds May 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    # Mike Ri May 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    How about that CJ Wilson !! . . . helped me big time in my fantasy baseball league . . .also a free agent next season ! . . . wink wink ! . .

    ——————————–

    Didn’t CJ make comments about not liking how the Yankees go about their business?

  100. Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    “What complete and utter nonsense. If you earned close to $20 million a year in your job yet failed to justify that money, day in and day out, wouldn’t you expect some criticism?”

    At this point, criticism comes across more as rank ingratitude.

  101. Warning Track Power May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    They were facing a guy who has top of the rotation stuff and happened to have his “A” game going on last night. It was more about the pitcher than it was the hitters.
    *********************************************************************
    I agree. Sometimes the pitcher is going to dominate, no matter who the hitter’s are. Last night was one of those occasions.

  102. West Coast Yankee Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am

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    Even though Cano and Granderson both hit lhp well now.

    *************************

    Granderson is hitting .259 with a .259 OBP against LHP in 2011.

    Cano is hitting .267 with a .324 OBP against LHP in 2011.

  103. Mike Ri May 5th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Against All Odds

    Didn?t CJ make comments about not liking how the Yankees go about their business?

    ——

    We’ll see what he says when the money hits the table :-)

  104. blake May 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    If I could make 20 million bucks to succeed 30% of the time I’d be happy anyway…..the money is irrelevant. What isn’t is those 5 championships he helped the Yankees win.

  105. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Granderson is hitting .259 with a .259 OBP against LHP in 2011.

    Cano is hitting .267 with a .324 OBP against LHP in 2011.

    —————-

    Granderson has a .926 OPS vs LHP.

    Cano has a .891 OPS vs LHP which is higher than his OPS vs LHP from 2010.

  106. Against All Odds May 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    # Mike Ri May 5th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Against All Odds

    Didn?t CJ make comments about not liking how the Yankees go about their business?

    ——

    We’ll see what he says when the money hits the table :-)

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    it will be like Johnny Damon all over again. :)

  107. West Coast Yankee Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    One cannot look at Derek Jeter through the prism of an average major league ballplayer. He is about as far away from that as could be. Jeter is much more than his stats.

    Read what Chad had to say about it in the chat yesterday.

    “Sure. And I think the impact within the clubhouse would be immediately noticeable if the Yankees benched Jeter or ripped him in some other way. These players know what he’s done for the team, and the know what he means in the clubhouse.”

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    At this point, criticism comes across more as rank ingratitude.

    So you get paid according to how you used to do your job rather than how you do it now? It’s not ingratitude, it’s reality. That’s why so many people were upset about Jeter’s contract in the winter. They knew there was no way he could ever justify it out on the field of play. Will his 3000th hit make up for a batting average below .250 and the Yankees missing out on the post season? Maybe, for the Jeter lovers out there, the answer to that question is yes. But not for me.

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    The Rangers have money, and I can’t see Wilson going somewhere else. He likes it there and has succeeded there.

    I can’t foresee the Dodgers ever being in a selling mode, but the other teams must, at some point, wonder why they are financing another team with a high payroll.

    Question for the group–when can Montero come up without costing a year of service time?

  110. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Granderson has a .926 OPS vs LHP

    =============

    Shallow argument because it’s all slugging percentage based. If he’s making outs 75% of the time against lefties, he’s not hitting them well.

  111. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Question for the group–when can Montero come up without costing a year of service time?

    =====================

    Right around the 1st of June, I believe.

  112. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Shallow argument because it’s all slugging percentage based. If he’s making outs 75% of the time against lefties, he’s not hitting them well.

    ——————-

    Hitting for a lot of power is not hitting them well?

  113. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    So, inferring from what Chad wrote, there’s nothing that the manager can (or should do) even if Jeter doesn’t hit? The “clubhouse” apparently is concerned more about the feelings of one player than the success of the team? If that’s the case, then we better hope that Jeter confronts reality and goes to Girardi voluntarily.

  114. jacksquat May 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Thanks LGY for correcting the cherrypickers.

  115. Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    bruceb-

    Given that the Yanks are in first place by two games, and given that it is early May and not late July or August, and given that Jeter’s contract is now a reality and there’s nothing you or I can do about it, and given everything Jeter has done over the years, I repeat some of this criticism comes across very poorly.

  116. Wave Your Hat May 5th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    “Shallow argument because it’s all slugging percentage based. If he’s making outs 75% of the time against lefties, he’s not hitting them well.”

    Mell, you know better than that.

  117. jacksquat May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    For even less cherrypicking, go back to when Granderson changed his swing last year, and Cano has hit lefties well for a while. Cano actually has a higher OPS vs lhp 2008-2010 than vs rhp.

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  119. Niblick May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    LGY – by your standard, the whole team is not hitting well. The Yankees batting average is .250, so by definition they are collectively making outs 75% of the time.

  120. UnKnown May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Really suprised no hitter is over.300 and only 2 are over .270. Even more suprised that the Yankees have as good as record as they do with those offensive numbers.

    I think the starting pitching has been the least of the what to worry about so far this year with the Yankees. Pretty crazy how its played out to date.

  121. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    LGY – by your standard, the whole team is not hitting well. The Yankees batting average is .250, so by definition they are collectively making outs 75% of the time.

    —————-

    Wrong person.

  122. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    :arrow:

  123. Mell May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    “The Yankees batting average is .250, so by definition they are collectively making outs 75% of the time”

    Getting on base means not making an out. Yankees may be hitting .250 but their OBP is around .340, which means they’re making outs roughly 66% of the time.

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    We have some issues this season so far at the plate. We have no one with more than ten at bats hitting over .300, are 4th in runs scored, 13th in hits and 4th in walks in the AL.

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