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Ramiro Pena says he’s been called up

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 05, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ramiro Pena just talked to Donnie Collins after tonight’s Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees game.

Pena confirmed that he has been called back to the big leagues. I have to assume he’ll fly to Dallas in the morning and join the team in time for this weekend series against the Rangers.

It could be that Eduardo Nunez will step into the Eric Chavez role at third base, and Ramiro Pena will step into the Eduardo Nunez role at short. Or maybe the Yankees will stick with Nunez as the No. 2 guy at every infield position, leaving Pena as a defensive replacement for the late innings. Either way, Pena’s role is probably limited.

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89 Responses to “Ramiro Pena says he’s been called up”

  1. Chase May 5th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Boo.

  2. blake May 5th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Pena grabbed his wet noodles….I mean bats ….and headed to Texas.

  3. Captain Clutch May 5th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    It’s crazy to have both Pena and Nunez on the roster. Nunez should be in AAA working on his defense. He always had defense issues so the Yanks shouldn’t act like it’s happening just because he isn’t playing everyday.

  4. jankees27 May 5th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    makes sense.

    Of the possible call ups, only Pena, Russo and Laird (not Vazquez or Montero) were on the 40-man roster, so they don’t need to DFA anyone. Laird needs to play every day, and Pena has experience and at least an ability to be a plus defender at the major league level. Russo didn’t show much of anything in his time up last year. Also, Ramiro has been getting some work in in the OF down in Scranton, so between him and Nunez, they have considerable versatility. Nunez is a better pinch hit option anyway, especially against righties (when Jones is less effective)

  5. Ghostwriter May 5th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Captain Clutch May 5th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    It’s crazy to have both Pena and Nunez on the roster. Nunez should be in AAA working on his defense. He always had defense issues so the Yanks shouldn’t act like it’s happening just because he isn’t playing everyday.
    ==========================================

    That’s an argument for sending Nunez back down to Scranton, not a reason not to bring Pena up to the Bigs. I thought that Nunez should not have come up with the big club, but I gess that now it’s a moot point.

    I’m afraid that this Chavez injury could wind up being a big detriment to the Yanks. I suspect that A-Rod is injured; having Chavez would have cushioned cushioned the blow, expecially with the way that he was playing…

  6. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Nunez will get better infield instruction from Kelleher, Rodriguez, Jeter and Cano than he will at Scranton.

  7. tyanksfan36 May 5th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    GB

    Last night I lost the little faith I had in Rob Lyerly. He still sucks defensively. Good news is that Torre Tyson is in Tampa. He needs to get to work.

  8. MattPat11 May 5th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Oh, good.

  9. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    TY, Lyerly needs a real 3rd baseman and 1st baseman to rework his defense. I’ve been saying that his defense wasn’t good, but, no question about the bat. Murton is much the same, but, he’s also older. None of the Yankee farm teams are fundamentally sound. They need a complete overhaul.

  10. NW Yankees Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Some thoughts about this blog:

    It is still a good blog. Many who left do not like to be disagreed with or get angry when one has a different point of view. They cannot tolerate any criticism of the Yankees at all. They are quick to call anyone who dissents a troll. Ridiculous! So they take their ball and leave the playground. See ya.

    I was born a New Yorker and I have been a Yankees fan since 1967. I am currently living in the great northwest (it sucks, don’t believe the b.s. about the beauty and such). I appreciate how good it is to be a Yankees fan when you get to see the Mariners year in and year out. That being said, being a Yankees fan has its challenges. When a team spends over 200m in salary, I expect a lot and am easily disappointed. When they win a championship, I am joyful but expected that all along. We are definitely spoiled, for sure.

    I do not like this years team for several reasons:

    Girardi thinks he is playing strat-o-matic and could easily be replaced by a laptop with his number on the cover. No one would notice. I had high hopes for him but he is a poor manager, plain and simple.

    Jeter and Posada are finished. Anyone who cannot see that, is not watching objectively.

    OB% is low for most players. Other teams have started throwing strikes and saying we won’t walk you, you have to earn it.

    When a team has a talent like a Robbie Cano and he does not have his name penciled into the third slot in the lineup, there is something wrong.

    Too much b.s. such as Jeter hits first, Tex third, ARod fourth, no matter what. The eighth inning guy, no matter what. No pinch hitting for Jeter, no matter what. What could Cano produce with Arod behind him in the order? With some protection? Too many set rules on this team, too many egos to sooth and a gutless manager as well.

    I could be wrong, but this is a really bad team and they have been lucky and have not been tested yet. I just do not like the feel of things this year.

    One more note on Jeter and Posada; I feel many fans have turned on them because they not only have refused to realize their decline but they held the Yankees up in contract negotiations. Posada is clogging up the whole roster. We owe these players nothing.

  11. Jerzz May 5th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    eboland11 A nice 72 degree night in Dallas. Temp supposed to be in the 80′s all weekend. Perhaps a favored place of beverage awaits

  12. tyanksfan36 May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    GB

    Yes, he has the bat. Both him and Murton but their defense is terrible. Its like the coaches don’t care about errors and things like that. Kevin Mahoney played 3rd the other day and did a much better job. He gets on base at a good rate but doesn’t have the bat that Lyerly has.

  13. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    NW Yankees Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
    Some thoughts about this blog:

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Will you be repeating this for the third time tomorrow?

  14. 4 NYY May 5th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    Damn, what a shame to lose Chavez. We all hoped he could stay healthy. Just not in the cards for him. At least Pena is a good runner with a good glove. Maybe he will improve his hitting somewhat. ( sooner or later )

  15. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Mahomey’s sort of a utility type. A real hustler, like Russo, but, also short on the talent to ever be more than a utility player.

  16. West Coast Yankee Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    NW Yankees Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Some thoughts about this blog:

    It is still a good blog. Many who left do not like to be disagreed with or get angry when one has a different point of view. They cannot tolerate any criticism of the Yankees at all. They are quick to call anyone who dissents a troll. Ridiculous! So they take their ball and leave the playground. See ya.

    ****************

    Post it as many times as you want, it needed to be said. Amen to that.

  17. tyanksfan36 May 5th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    GB

    If Lyerly doesn’t get better with the glove then what do they do with him?

  18. NW Yankees Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Sorry did not mean to over post. I am a little rusty.

  19. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    TY, he’ll stay where his is for now, His problem is more footwork than glove, but, both need work. Eventually, he could go to the outfield. He’s got the average, he’s got developing power and he has decent speed. Mostly, he has something the organization is short on…left handed bat.

  20. tyanksfan36 May 5th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    A lot of the people who left were harassed outside of the blog. It didnt have anything to do with people disagreeing with them or criticizing them about baseball related issues. I cant speak for everyone who left but I do know that some of them left because they no longer felt this was a secure site.

  21. SAS May 5th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    NW Yankees Fan,

    If you knew what you were talking about, it would be fine. Most of the people who stopped posting here did so because they were threatened by a nut case. So before you go spouting your mouth off, you might get your facts straight.

    Also, the constant in-fighting by a certain group made posting here not much fun for anyone.

    The fact that you think you know it all is alarming!!!

  22. SAS May 5th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Seems like there is someone else who is saying the exact same thing.

  23. tyanksfan36 May 5th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    GB

    that is true. In last nights game it was definitely the glove. The ONE ball that came to him the whole game, not even a hard hit ball, he reached down for and couldnt come up with which is something I have seen many times. It rolled right through his legs, had Ibarra not been behind him to pick it up, more runs would have scored.

  24. SAS May 5th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Hi GB,

    I miss not seeing you around much. I skim through here, but rarely post anymore. I do miss the friends though.

  25. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    People can keep saying that Cano should be in the 3 hole and how great he has been this season, but he shouldn’t and he has not been better than Tex. Tex has been significantly better than Cano this season.

    Cano has a grand total of 3 walks this season. He has basically turned into Vlad Guerrero this season. With Jeter leading off, Grandy or Swisher 2nd, and Cano third Alex and Tex will be hitting with the bases empty all the time.

    Tex has walked 19 times this season. His OBP is .403. You put him in the 5th spot and all those walks are in front of guys like Swisher and Posada who haven’t hit a lick this season.

    Tex is the perfect 3 hole hitter on this team when Alex is right and Cano is hitting well. Not only is he capable of mashing the ball and driving the 1-2 hitters in the lineup home but he is getting on base at an excellent rate which sets things up for Alex and Cano.

    Tex’s walks are much more valuable in front of Alex and Cano than Posada and Swisher.

  26. GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Evening, SAS. It’s gotten to the point that it’s really not worth it. Sadly, a few remain, but, like you and Kate, it’s hard to get a decent conversation going when you have to pick through the garbage.

    I miss the old crowdm but they’re disappearing fast, What a pity. It was a great place to catch up on the Muppet gossip from the E&E twins. You guys were a lot of enjoyment to wake up and read some if the early morning silliness and Muppets, cars, movies and of course all of the Hollywood shenanighens. Now, it’s over run by the trolls and jackasses.

    How are things going with your guy and the fuzzy creature? Hope all is getting better.

  27. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    In 18 PAs across 4 games from April 7th to April 10th Tex had 0 hits and 2 walks.

    Since then from April 13th to May 4th (stats from today have not been updated yet) Tex is hitting .306/.443/.613.

    Before those 4 games Tex hit .333/.455/1.000 in the first 5 games of the season.

    He has had one really bad 4 game stretch so far this season. Other than just 4 measly games, Tex has been fantastic this season.

  28. Ghostwriter May 5th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    LGY May 5th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    People can keep saying that Cano should be in the 3 hole and how great he has been this season, but he shouldn’t and he has not been better than Tex. Tex has been significantly better than Cano this season.

    =========================================

    I concede the point about Cano’s OBP-I think that he may have become perhaps a bit too homer-happy. Still, for my money, I would prefer Cano over Tex in the 3-hole, because Tex is a little too pull-conscious and streaky for my taste.

  29. Tar May 5th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Hey everybody.

    LGY

    Not a bad argument (11:39) but this sentence

    “With Jeter leading off, Grandy or Swisher 2nd, and Cano third Alex and Tex will be hitting with the bases empty all the time.”

    Was not necessary to your argument or accurate. The rest of post was good, I particularly like the closing sentence.

    Good night all.

  30. LGY May 5th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Cano has 4 opposite field hits this season.

    Tex has 3 opposite field hits this season.

  31. LGY May 6th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Tar,

    OBP

    Jeter: .308
    Grandy: .325
    Swisher: .339 (was actually surprised by this. I thought it was much lower)
    Cano: .322

    None of those guys are getting on base at good rates. And Cano and Grandy are hitting bombs all the time so they are clearing the bases often.

  32. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2011 at 12:15 am

    I would construct a lineup of descending order of OBP. Just ’til they come around.

  33. GreenBeret7 May 6th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    Yanks seemed to have gotten a break for the Texas series. They miss Lewis and wilson on the mound and Hamilton and Cruz will not play.

  34. UnKnown May 6th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    Well the Rangers looked pretty crappy tonight. Means they will play lights out this weekend for a home sweep I suppose.

  35. LGY May 6th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    Yikes. Just saw on RAB that the Yanks are averaging 3.64 runs over their last 11 game which includes that 12 run outburst.

    7 of the last 11 they have scored 3 or less.

    If you take out those 12 runs they have averaged 2.8 runs in the other 10 games. 2.8. Gross.

  36. UnKnown May 6th, 2011 at 12:37 am

    I have seen the question on the comments before but never answered. Isn’t Pena Hurt?

  37. UnKnown May 6th, 2011 at 12:40 am

    Chris Young is really good for AZ. Been watching a lot of late night ball lately and he is a great player.

  38. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2011 at 12:44 am

    If they are calling Pena up, I think it’s safe to assume that he isn’t hurt.

  39. LGY May 6th, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Since BA has been talked about a lot with this team, I wonder if teams with higher BA are less streaky…Lemme check.

    2010 % of games 3 runs or less.

    -Texas (Led the AL with .276 BA): 36%
    -Kansas City was 2nd but they sucked so no point
    -Minny (3rd in BA with .273): 36%
    -Tigers (.268): .39%
    -Boston (.268): 38%
    -White Sox (.268): 39%
    -Yankees (.267): 33%

    So the Yanks had the least amount of 3 runs or less games last year followed by Texas and Minny.

  40. tyanksfan36 May 6th, 2011 at 12:49 am

    Pena fouled a ball off his foot the other day and I think he missed a game but he was playing today until they pulled him to let him know he was being called up.

  41. LGY May 6th, 2011 at 12:50 am

    The Yankees had the highest OBP in 2010.

    Minny was 2nd, Boston 3rd, Texas 4th.

  42. UnKnown May 6th, 2011 at 12:55 am

    thanks tyanks, that is what I was trying to remember.

    tomorrow nights game is a rematch of the opener in the bronx Nova vs. Harrison. this was the 6 dp game. Definitely a game that can be put on the left side with some life on offense. Thinking 4 to 6 runs.

  43. LGY May 6th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    2009:

    Angels (.285): 34%
    Yanks (.283): 25%
    Minny (.274): 38%
    Boston (.270): 35%

    2009 American League: 39%
    2010 American League: 43%

  44. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    Of course, maybe the Yankees are just messing with us, realizing themselves how ridiculous it is to bring up Pena.

  45. LGY May 6th, 2011 at 1:06 am

    I can’t find anything that stands out that explains why some teams are less streaky than others.

  46. UnKnown May 6th, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Rangers losers of 8 out of the last 11. Lost 3 of 4 to the Jays, 2 of 3 to the A’s, and 3 of 4 to the M’s.

    They are getting back Feliz tomorrow and Cruz on Saturday, but they are not playing well. This has not meant anything when team have played the Yankees this year, however, the excuse that the opposition is really hot can’t be used througout this whole road trip.

  47. jacksquat May 6th, 2011 at 1:41 am

    Lots of people have differences of opinion on this blog without being maligned.

    It’s not the difference of opinion with people like YankeesNmore.

    It’s the fact that he presents his opinions in an obnoxious manner, and does so with great frequency and repetetiveness.

    People freaking out about short term performance is annoying as well.

  48. Pat M. May 6th, 2011 at 2:01 am

    stroll down the old neighborhood, I don’t see very many friendly faces anymore…….So good night night people and Good Morning to Doreen and the Morning People…..Ah, those were the good old days……..Although it wasn’t all that long ago…….There was a GB sightings, but it was fleeting……Now we get forced fed an endless line of stats by people who probably never did a thing to be at a time one of their stats……CLUE 30 minutes of arguments…….I guess you never get really go back home……..

  49. Vineyard Yankee May 6th, 2011 at 2:28 am

    NW Yankees Fan May 5th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Some thoughts about this blog:

    It is still a good blog. Many who left do not like to be disagreed with or get angry when one has a different point of view. They cannot tolerate any criticism of the Yankees at all. They are quick to call anyone who dissents a troll. Ridiculous !

    =====================

    It’s called drinking the ‘kool aid’. If you don’t take it through an IV everyday 24 / 7 then it is a problem. Opinions vary, thanks for your opinion.

  50. Rich in NJ May 6th, 2011 at 2:30 am

    There is an awful lot of drama here now, and I really don’t like drama.

  51. NW Yankees Fan May 6th, 2011 at 2:47 am

    Vineyard Yankee May 6th, 2011 at 2:28 am

    It’s called drinking the ‘kool aid’. If you don’t take it through an IV everyday 24 / 7 then it is a problem. Opinions vary, thanks for your opinion.

    =====================

    Thanks Vineyard. Seriously, I have posted here a total of ten times in three years. I remember talking bad about Joe Torre and was accused of being a troll. Look at the responses to my one comment tonight from Green Beret and SAS; pretty nasty. I even remember one of the sacred regulars they speak of threatening someone a while back.

    I think this blog is fine. Some people scoff at those that like to throw stats around. Isn’t one of the biggest parts of baseball stats? That’s what makes it fun, for me at least.

    When I post on this blog, I do not expect to be agreed with but I do expect to be treated respectfully. It is funny how the biggest whiners of how bad this blog is are so disrespectful to others. Your comment about the “kool aid ” is accurate. If we do not want to drink it, why not intimidate and slander us until we go away. What a shame.

  52. Vineyard Yankee May 6th, 2011 at 3:26 am

    NW Yankees Fan May 6th, 2011 at 2:47 am

    At this hour I am laughing. Your take on my ‘kool aid’ comment is accurate. Heaven forbid if you say that the Red Sux have a powerful lineup with the addition of AGone and Crawford or that the Giants have one of the best young pitching staffs in MLB. Does that make me any less of a Yankee Fan…………NO.

    In cases like that you are considered an outsider or a troll. If you state things of a more obvious nature like Arod is in a slump or that Joba has dug his own hole in becoming a middle reliever or that Gardner is not a good base stealer right now then you are labeled a Red Sux Fan or a Yankee hater.

    I like this blog for what Chad and Sam provide, they always provide fresh news and cover as much in Yankee land as they possibly can. There are also some great posters here who have alot of Baseball knowledge, others who don’t care for what I post, I could care less what they think. I come here to learn new things and read what Chad and Sam provide. The weirdos and 24 / 7 ‘kool aid’ drinkers who don’t like hearing opinions on the flip side of the coin can do exactly as you say, take their ball and walk.

    I find it refreshing that you posted what you did earlier, don’t be a stranger here.

  53. NW Yankees Fan May 6th, 2011 at 3:58 am

    Vineyard Yankee May 6th, 2011 at 3:26 am

    Thank you for the kind words and I will not be a stranger. I enjoy your posts as well. You are correct when you state that Chad and Sam do provide fresh news and cover lots of Yankees news. I have looked at other blogs but really enjoy this one. Hopefully tonight’s game will be a good one.

  54. Vineyard Yankee May 6th, 2011 at 5:48 am

    NWYF:

    Three losses in a row with almost zero run support for the SP. Tough to watch and swallow when we know that the team is much better than they have showed lately. We will need some offense to beat Texas and their SP is not as tough as Detroit right now. Feliz due back today or tomorrow so we need the lead going into the late innings. What part of the greater NW are you in ?

  55. joeman May 6th, 2011 at 6:14 am

    Ramiro Pena says he’s been called up
    —————————————————-
    now I feel better, maybe this team needed to make a bold move and bring up Montero who could DH against LHP & catch once a week…..wonder what his catching and DH splits are in the minors

  56. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 6:37 am

    LGY May 5th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Cano has 4 opposite field hits this season.

    Tex has 3 opposite field hits this season.
    ================================================

    This season? I hope you’re kidding. These number over several weeks aren’t ey meaningful. Would you have the numbers for previous years (I couldn’t find them)? I would be astonished if they had a similar number of oppo field hits over an extended period of time. I would expect that Cano’s reduced oppo field output this year is a symptom of being little too homer-conscious,

  57. Vineyard Yankee May 6th, 2011 at 6:41 am

    Thank you for that info. on Cano… ‘Macphisto’.

  58. jpb173 May 6th, 2011 at 7:13 am

    If the Yankees aren’t going to give Jorge Vazquez, a 29 year old minor leaguer, a shot when he is hitting .302 with 9 HR’s and 27 RBI’s (so much for the concept of rewarding success in the minor leagues) then they should release him and let him try to catch on with another big-league team. I understand the importance of defense and speed in the modern game, but Ramiro Pena can’t hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

  59. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 7:18 am

    NW Yankees Fan May 6th, 2011 at 2:47 am

    Thanks Vineyard. Seriously, I have posted here a total of ten times in three years. I remember talking bad about Joe Torre and was accused of being a troll. Look at the responses to my one comment tonight from Green Beret and SAS; pretty nasty. I even remember one of the sacred regulars they speak of threatening someone a while back.

    When I post on this blog, I do not expect to be agreed with but I do expect to be treated respectfully. It is funny how the biggest whiners of how bad this blog is are so disrespectful to others. Your comment about the “kool aid ” is accurate. If we do not want to drink it, why not intimidate and slander us until we go away. What a shame.

    ================================================
    Let me get this straight:

    First, You come on this blog, and make a series of unflattering sweeping generalizations about the people that post on this forum (even though you admittedly have little posting history on this forum and no rapport with any of the regulars), calling them intolerant, and reposting it at least two times to make sure that everybody saw it.

    Second, some people on the forum have the temerity to express their displeasure with your remarks (Imagine!). GB indicated that your repetitious posting of the same post was not appreciated, and SAS suggested that you get your facts straight before you opine on matters. And you consider these remarks “pretty nasty” and “disrespectful”?

    Is that it? Does that about sum it up? People who disagree with you are KoolAid-drinking bullies? And you complain about how the biggest whiners on this board are disrespectful to others? Oy!

  60. mick May 6th, 2011 at 7:26 am

    Let me get this straight:

    First, You come on this blog, and make a series of unflattering sweeping generalizations about the people that post on this forum (even though you admittedly have little posting history on this forum and no rapport with any of the regulars), calling them intolerant, and reposting it at least two times to make sure that everybody saw it.

    Second, some people on the forum have the temerity to express their displeasure with your remarks (Imagine!). GB indicated that your repetitious posting of the same post was not appreciated, and SAS suggested that you get your facts straight before you opine on matters. And you consider these remarks “pretty nasty” and “disrespectful”?

    Is that it? Does that about sum it up? People who disagree with you are KoolAid-drinking bullies? And you complain about how the biggest whiners on this board are disrespectful to others? Oy!
    =========================
    Doreen?

  61. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    mick,

    I’m not sure that I understand your reference. I’m not Doreen, and I’m not very familiar with her posts…

  62. mick May 6th, 2011 at 7:35 am

    People here are pining for a few regulars who have left the scene for various reasons.
    Not meant in a bad way, she was a good poster.
    Your common sense reminded me of her.
    She also said Oy a lot…and Ghostwriter seemed like a name someone would use to reappear.

  63. SJ44 May 6th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Ghostwriter isn’t Doreen.

    Nor is “NW Yankee Fan” a “new” poster who has only lurked in the past.

    As the collective intelligence of the blog dips, so does people’s abilities to see they are being played by the person most responsible for the blog mass exodus.

  64. randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    this blog simply needs a moderator who blips out comments that do not work for a good baseball discussion.

    trolls and toxic posters seem to like to see their words immortalized in discussion threads.

    peter abraham’s secret was he knew it was his blog and he was in charge.

    the new guys, as good as they are as reporters, don’t get it that they need to be in charge of this blog and act as a moderator when necessary.

  65. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    mick May 6th, 2011 at 7:35 am

    People here are pining for a few regulars who have left the scene for various reasons.
    Not meant in a bad way, she was a good poster.
    Your common sense reminded me of her.
    She also said Oy a lot…and Ghostwriter seemed like a name someone would use to reappear.
    ==================================================

    Oh, I see. I’ll take it as a compliment. I understand that she was well-liked on this forum, and I hope that she chooses to come back at some point.

  66. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    SJ44 May 6th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Ghostwriter isn’t Doreen.

    Nor is “NW Yankee Fan” a “new” poster who has only lurked in the past.

    As the collective intelligence of the blog dips, so does people’s abilities to see they are being played by the person most responsible for the blog mass exodus.
    ==============================================

    I hope that you aren’t implying that I’m some sort of troublemaker, or somehow lumping me in with the forum trolls.

  67. Mell May 6th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    If the Yankees aren’t going to give Jorge Vazquez, a 29 year old minor leaguer, a shot when he is hitting .302 with 9 HR’s and 27 RBI’s (so much for the concept of rewarding success in the minor leagues)
    ==================

    .227 with 18 strikeouts in 44 at bats over his last 10 games. 32 K’s and 4 BB’s on the year. Power aside, that type of plate discipline doesn’t seem likely to succeed at this level.

  68. austinmac May 6th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    Nothing less interesting in a baseball blog than discussing the blog, but I will do so anyway.

    I have no problem with concerned viewpoints. Their are reasons to be concerned. However, such posters will be listened to only if they are balanced. The team is neither all good nor all bad. It has strengths and weaknesses.

    One of the principal purposes of a blog is to suggest improvements. It is not to repeatedly say this team or this player sucks.

  69. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 7:58 am

    randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    this blog simply needs a moderator who blips out comments that do not work for a good baseball discussion.

    ==================================================

    I’m not a fan of censoring posts; I would much rather see an aggressive banning policy for bad actors. I agree with your general point that somebody needs to enforce decorum on this forum. However, I have to admit that I’m pretty impressed with the ability of folks on this forum to self-police it.

  70. randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    “I’m not a fan of censoring posts”

    how well does a boxing match work without a referee ?

    … a baseball game without an umpire .

    a blog doesn’t work unless someone is in charge.

    anyone who was a regular on this blog two years ago knows the blog is going down for the count .

  71. SJ44 May 6th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    Ghostwriter,

    This has nothing to do with you.

    I’m not lumping you in with the problems here. You aren’t a problem.

    Merely pointing out you aren’t Doreen, as was suggested by someone.

  72. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    “I’m not a fan of censoring posts”

    how well does a boxing match work without a referee ?

    … a baseball game without an umpire .

    a blog doesn’t work unless someone is in charge.

    anyone who was a regular on this blog two years ago knows the blog is going down for the count .
    ============================================

    So, you snip out the substance of my remarks in order to respond to them, pretending as if I hadn’t already agreed with your principal point about the need for some enforcement of decorum? Interesting. Our dispute was over censoring the content of posts, not whether there should be a moderator.

  73. blake May 6th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    I’m hoping the two good AB’s yesterday + heading back to the launching pad in Arlington will help jump start Arod and get him going.

    Nothing jump starts this offense like Alex can because he can flat out carry it when he’s hot….so hopefully he gets it going. I think it’s no coincedence that when he went into a funk, the rest of the offense did as well.

  74. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    SJ,

    Thanks for clearing that up!

  75. Mell May 6th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    The irony surrounding the present discussion is that things seem to have gotten much worse AFTER a registration process, that many called for, was put in place. I don’t say this to demean that process, which I more or less agreed with. I just find it a little peculiar that it seems to have worked out that way.

  76. blake May 6th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Mell,

    I think the quality of discussion may have gone down….but the impostering that went on before registration was really bad as well because you had no idea who you were talking to half the time.

  77. Mell May 6th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    I think it’s no coincedence that when he went into a funk, the rest of the offense did as well

    ============

    It’s a shame he needed those few days off with the back/oblique/whatever it was thing. He was on a major roll prior to that and the time off seemed to have temporarily cost him his rhythm. Good looking AB’s yesterday, as you say though. Maybe that’s the catalyst.

  78. blake May 6th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Mell,

    as they say….it always comes down to Arod. (many times it does)

  79. randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    i am a fan of chad and sam deleting posts and having a strong presence on the blog interacting in discussions the way peter abraham used to do.

    i own a business. i control what goes on inside it. it’s for 99.9 % of customers ,but not for everyone.

    if that .1 % crosses a line , they are out of there.

    the blog should be the same way.

  80. blake May 6th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    I wish Chad would post more often if for no other reason than I like his insights.

  81. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    As this team is currently constituted, we really need Alex to carry us, to a fault. We need to get Posada and Swisher going, because without them, the lineup lacks punch. I keep looking for bright spots from them, but the glmmers of hope at this point seem faint–Posada hits the ball hard when he makes contact, but strikes out way too much, and rarely ever walks; Swisher draws walks, but can’t seem to make solid contact.

    The bright spot is Brett has started to come out of his funk, but we need the run producers to drive him home, otherwise it does us no good…

  82. yanks61 May 6th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    I usually get a lot of enjoyment out of reading the varied views of posters here, though I rarely post myself. It’s been really sad to see how some very good people having been avoiding the blog in the last few weeks.

    I believe that SAS was correct in stating why NW Yankee Fan was wrong about the reasons why people were leaving in such alarming numbers, and I think that Ghostwriter made a perfectfully sensible, well argued repost to NWYF and Vineyard Yankee.

    Ghostwriter, I don’t believe that SJ 44 was attacking you. I believe what he was saying (and would guess most of us understood), is that WCYF, NWYF and VY are one and the same. They’re not only from the same time zone, they are either all three the same poster – or are simply buddies that continuously cover for one another. It’s been more than obvious (at least to me) that one of the handles always pops up on the blog just as soon as one of the others seems to be running into flack because of some ridiculous statement or other.

  83. RadioKev May 6th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Well, all we can hope is that our pitching remains this fairly consistant for the rest of the year. The bats won’t slump all season, and if some do, we’ve got some pop down in AAA.

  84. blake May 6th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    I don’t necessarily think they need Alex to carry the lineup….it’s a good lineup on it’s own that is struggling right now…..it’s just when Alex hits like he was to start the season it takes it to another level. When Alex is locked in he’s still as good as anybody….so he would do that to any lineup. What I was hoping is that he could perform like that for a good portion of the season because when he is he can mask other players struggles…..hopefully this slump has just been a blip on a great season.

  85. blake May 6th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    I’m still scratching my head over the decision to bring Pena up unless they are sending Nunez down. I just see no point in carrying them both……the only benefit is if you have 2 infielders get hurt in the same game or an extra pinch runner I guess. I’d rather have the extra bat on the bench myself.

  86. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    There are a couple of problems with censoring posts.

    First, it’s rarely done in an even-handed fashion. Oftentimes, innocent bystanders find their posts deleted irrevocably, without warning or appeal. Censoring really has to be done carefully and with an eye for context, which often is not the case.

    Second, bad actors strategically will exploit censoring to their own advantage: They will make offensive posts for the express purpose of inciting others, and wait for the censor to come around behind him to clean up and dispose of the evidence of what they did. Once the bad actor has gotten the attention that they desire, they play dumb about the trouble that they have caused.

    Banning trolls is the way to go: You post the rules of decorum, you give out warnings when somebody steps out of line, and ban the chronic bad actors.

  87. randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    there is no right to post on a blog.

    whoever runs the blog controls the content.

    this bog used to be much better when comments were deleted and commenters were told to take a hike if the blog meister peter a. didn’t like what someone was saying.

    i know because i got that message several times :)

    i don’t go on RAB because i have no interest in the sabermetric weenie point of view of the guys who run the blog, but they do not have the problem that lohud has because they do delete and censor comments.

    like them or not , they police and control their blog.

  88. Ghostwriter May 6th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    randy l. May 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    there is no right to post on a blog.

    ================================
    We disagree. Fine, let’s leave it at that. Maybe you’ve had better luck with censoring than I have had.

    I just wish that you wouldn’t put words in my mouth: I never asserted a “right to post on a blog.” I don’t appreciate strawman arguments.

  89. Georgia_in_MS May 6th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Good for Pena. Maybe his bat has been struggling in the minors because he is mentally down. I’m sure going to the minors from Yankees is the equivalent of us being sent back to the mail room. I hope he does really well. I do not believe he would make throw-aways like Nunez has.

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