Yankees postgame
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 11, 2011 
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Derek Jeter continued his resurgence, going 2 for 4 after going 4 for 6 in Texas Sunday. This was actually his season-high third straight multi-hit game. His average is up to .283. He had a two-out RBI single in the third inning of this 3-1 over the Royals.
But ask him about all this at your own risk. The Captain wasn’t happy when a reporter threw a question at him about his hitting again.
“I’ve talked so much about it,” Jeter said. “I’m not talking anymore. I’ve told you guys the more comfortable you are, the better you see the ball. The better at-bats you have, the results will be there. But it’s been dissected enough.”
Alex Rodriguez had just one hit in four at-bats, but it was the clutch two-out, two-run tiebreaking single with the bases loaded in the fifth. He broke an 0-for-10 skid with runners in scoring position.
“I’m in an RBI position,” Rodriguez said. “I want to not only gets hits but drive the ball, doubles, home runs.”
A-Rod is still just hitting .175 with no homers since April 23.
“He’s still not perfect,” Joe Girardi said. “But RBI guys find ways to drive in runs.”
As someone who has gotten on Joba Chamberlain at times for his inconsistency, I must say the guy looked great in this game, throwing a 1-2-3 eighth with Rafael Soriano unavailable due to a sore elbow. Chamberlain hit 98 on the gun when he got Alex Gordon looking. Joba talked about his mechanical changes for this season. He starts his hands lower, just like he did when he first came up. His ERA is down to 3.18 after 17 appearances.
“You’re just starting to see his stuff coming back to what it was,” Girardi said.
David Robertson did a great job as well, striking out two with the bases loaded in the seventh. He has a knack for the great escape. Joba labeled him “Houdini.”
Freddy Garcia evened his record at 2-2 and lowered his ERA to 2.61. Pretty good for a fifth starter. He allowed one run and six hits over six-plus, looking like his typically crafty self along the way.
“For me, I have to throw strikes,” Garcia said. “I don’t have the power anymore.”
Wednesday night’s matchup will feature A.J. Burnett and Vin Mazzaro in his first big-league game of the season.
Did everyone hit the rack ? Sandman came calling I guess.
““You’re just starting to see his stuff coming back to what it was,” Girardi said.”
That’s why Joba should pitch the 8th even if Soriano’s elbow is pristine.
Hey Vin…I left you a couple of more threads on the last page. I think I will hit it, it was a long day. Good night all!
NW:
Just responded.
RIP Bill Gallo. Grew up seeing his sports catoons in TDN. Great and unique in his day.
All those endless hours debating whether Joba was best suited to be a starter or in the pen . . . yawn.
Maybe his extra poundage has contributed to his increased velocity.
Not really. When you get what the Yankees got from AJ and Vazquez last season, whether or not Joba would have been a better starter was a fair question to debate. The confound was that he may not have been fully healthy until this season. Now that it seems like is, let the debate begin anew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whatever it is – I personally think it’s the funnel cakes given to him by a great reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper – he should keep this up.
It was never a fair question, you can say it was, and others here can say it was, that doesn’t make it so. Brian Cashman knew it wasn’t so, the entire Yankees organization knew it wasn’t so, and many fans knew it wasn’t so.
Joba was not a good enough starter, he could not sustain his velocity for enough innings to be one, he’s clearly much better emptying the tank for an inning.
Can’t you keep a secret ? The 3 of them, oops now 4 go to Coney Island to have the fresh ones specially made. Two dozen slide right down I’m told.
West Coast Yankee Fan May 11th, 2011 at 2:09 am
Don’t you mean filling the tank ?
S H H H H H H !!!
When Joba was a great reliever, he was a great starter.
When Joba was a mediocre reliever, he was a mediocre starter.
Joba looks like a great reliever again. Therefore he could be a [fill in the blank] again.
It was never a fair question, you can say it was, and others here can say it was, that doesn’t make it so. Brian Cashman knew it wasn’t so, the entire Yankees organization knew it wasn’t so, and many fans knew it wasn’t so.
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Considering the Yankees traded the one of the “Big Three” that is having the best career thus far and they would be in a better position today if they had made Hughes the reliever instead of Joba, Brian Cashman and Co. don’t exactly get glowing reviews for their decision making and what he “knew”
I like Cashman, but so far he has killed Wang, traded Kennedy, turned the starter with the highest ceiling of all of them into a reliever, and is in the process of killing Hughes.
Every decision he has made when it comes to young starters like Joba should be questioned and looked at very skeptically.
Joba was a very good starter in 08 and at times in 09. The fact that the yankees gave up on him so soon is crazy. Plenty of young starters struggle and Joba didnt even struggle that badly. WCYF you were all on the jocks of Holland and Harrison when they were off to a good start this year and neither had as good a track record as Joba did. To develop young starting pitching the organization has to be willing to take lumps. The Yankees give Hughes a ton of chances and gave Joba 1 shot? Now that he is showing good velocity again they ought look at him as a starter.
lol.. just silly.
“I like Cashman, but so far he has killed Wang, traded Kennedy, turned the starter with the highest ceiling of all of them into a reliever, and is in the process of killing Hughes. ”
Wang had arm issues his entire career.
Kennedy was traded for a guy who appears to be the best CF in the league.
Joba was injured as a starter and maybe he just isn’t built to start.
How is he in the process of killing Hughes?
“I like Cashman, but so far he has killed Wang, traded Kennedy, turned the starter with the highest ceiling of all of them into a reliever, and is in the process of killing Hughes. ”
- Wang “killed” himself ! . . it was unfortunate but not Cashmans fault
- Kennedy is what he is . . . a National league pitcher . . Put him in the AL East he’d be a .500 pitcher .
- Joba ….. he’s where he belongs . .
- Hughes — Not Cashmans fault he’s “hurt” with “dead arm” … Hughes won 18 games and was an All-Star last year
lgy running out of things to whine about. the g.m. kills pitchers? now that is a unique theory….
West Coast Yankee Fan May 11th, 2011 at 2:09 am
It was never a fair question, you can say it was, and others here can say it was, that doesn’t make it so. Brian Cashman knew it wasn’t so, the entire Yankees organization knew it wasn’t so, and many fans knew it wasn’t so.
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I suppose if one was asleep during 2008 before the injury, and unaware of what Joba did as starter in the mL, one might think it wasn’t a fair questIon.
“Every decision he has made when it comes to young starters like Joba should be questioned and looked at very skeptically.”
I like Cashman, but I agree with LGY’s above statement.
I think the jury is still out, but the next crop of young pitching is going to very telling on Cashman’s legacy in this regard.
if soriano is injured, joba is going to be badly needed in the bp. i predicted pre opening day that joba would be the eig by midseason and take over for mo by the end of next season.
The thing with Joba that confuses me is that the Yankees spent a season and a half building him up under the “Joba Rules” program. Only to ditch it.
NY Daily News sports cartoonist Bill Gallo died last night.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....ength.html
I guess some here saw a different pitcher than I did when Joba was starting.
I saw a young pitcher learning his craft that knew better what to throw for a pitch than a veteran catcher.
The constant shaking off of the catcher, the infatuation with the slider that hitters knew wasn’t going to be a strike so they layed off and the need to have a long man ready because Joba got to 100 pitches by the 4th or 5th inning.
We can state all we want what the Yankees should do with certain players but when you only can decide that based on what we see from the outside it is hard to make that determination.
Funny how the Yankee GM is accused of ruining pitchers. If that happens with any other ballclub it’s usually blamed on the manager or pitching coaches.
The Yankees do need Joba in the bullpen right now…..especially if Soriano is going to have injuries popping up.
However, I do agree with what LGY said…..how Joba has pitched has never had anything to do with his role IMO, its been how he’s thrown the ball. There hasn’t ever been this stark difference in how he pitches in the different roles….
I still believe there is something we don’t know about the whole situation…..because how they’ve handled him makes very little sense at face value.
The White Sox are starting to use a six man rotation now that Peavy is back. That certainly means, provided Peavy stays healthy, that they have one available.
as i’ve said before, for any team trying to develop 3 hot pitching prospects, to have 1 be a mid rotation starter on thier team, one an mlb starter traded to another organization and one end up being a premium relief pitcher is a very good outcome.
IPK was excellent last night, he even got a hit off Lincecum
Perhaps Joba is good in the pen right now because he’s just better suited for it? Cashman seems to believe his fastball and slider play up better in a one inning situation than a starter situation. The logic seems as simple as that. Do people bemoan Mo not being a starter?
Joba’s value in the short term is back up again. Not as high as it once was, but it’s up there in terms of affordable solid relief pitching.
Wang’s situation was disappointing, but what can you do? If he wasn’t right he shouldn’t have said something sooner. He should have also rounded the base paths better. I don’t see how any of it is Cash’s fault. He’s not a doctor.
As others have said, IPK is who he is. He just didn’t fit into the Yankees plans, and I still don’t think he does. Nova has better stuff and could become a better pitcher, Hughes had a good showing last year, and we’ve got a bunch of great talent coming up.
And Hughes’ career is far from over right now. This could just be a bump in the road.
I was so impressed with Joba last night, I’ll refrain from commenting about his hair.
I was actually a little surprised at the lack of reception for Melky last night. I wasn’t expecting him to get a standing ovation or anything, but I thought he’d get a warmer response than what he got. Or maybe he did and it just didn’t come across well on TV.
Hopefully all goes well for Soriano today.
Erin
I don’t know why Kay/Flash didn’t mention it, but when Melky took the field there was a very loud roll call for him. I could easily hear it over their chatter.
I was impressed w/ all the pitching last night. I enjoy watching Joba when he just goes out there and throws…no pacing around, no shaking off the catcher.
thanks kate! That’s good that he at least got something!
It’s funny how LGY seemingly changing his mind about Phil overnight – to the point where he now almost thinks he’s better as a reliever – has gone unnoticed.
I would trade IPK for Granderson any day of the week – it’s not like they traded him for a bag of balls.
As to Cashman ruining Phil, I’ll be interested to read how that’s possible. If Phil doesn’t develop into what people thought he was going to turn into, that’s on him. It’s not Cashman’s fault that Phil has a hard time throwing breaking pitches. Then again, I’ve never blamed Cashman for Wang having shoulder issues and certainly not for Joba being a reliever at this point. Players have to take most of the responsibility for the direction of their career.
i was definitely dissappointed in melky’s ovation last night, ill bet he gets a better one tonight. when we were speculating about the ovation melkman would get the other day, people on here even said ‘o yeah, i forgot he was on kc” if people on here werent thinking melky when kc came to town, alot of people in the stadium probably werent really paying atttention to it either.
still, the guy was a cf on a championship team and yankees fans need to give some love for that fact alone, whether they really liked melky or not, its respct for the ring that’s the thing!
hoping for a bit of a makeup ovation tonight!
lol welcome back betsy, im shocked that you chose to post about phil…
Hi Betsy!!! Nice to see you back!
I have no problem w/ the the Granderson deal, he has quickly become one of my favs.
I’m going to call Cashman on his cell phone this morning and make sure he never runs out on the field again and kicks a pitcher in the foot like he did with Wang, he has one helluva nerve ruining a career like that.
ipk (and coke) for granderson is GRAND-theft-cf and a stroke of genius but that idiot gm of ours!
*ajax*sorry bad editing
Nothing like waking up to revisionist history.
Betsy – welcome back. Hope you’re well.
Sorry to read about Bill Gallo. Like many others, I grew up reading The Daily News (for better and worse,
), and loved seeing Gallo’s cartoons.
Later……
New Post: Robertson to the rescue
I was so impressed with Joba last night, I’ll refrain from commenting about his hair.
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I’ll do it for ya…
Receding hair in the front and long hair in the back is a one-way ticket to mulletville.