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Postgame notes: “It’s like when I have to go to the dentist”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on May 16, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi speaks of confidence and character. He said his team is too talented to play this poorly, and he said he’s seen teams bounce back from slumps just as bad as this one.

But in his time as Yankees manager, Girardi never had a team lose six in a row until tonight. If the Yankees lose again tomorrow night, they’ll fall to .500 for the season, a full four games behind the Rays for first place in the American League East. Just one week ago, the Yankees were leading by a game. Two weeks ago they were ahead by three games.

“It’s like when I have to go to the dentist,” Girardi said. “I know I’m going to get through it, but I still dread it every time I go.”

Tonight the Yankees had a four-run lead after five innings, and Burnett was dealing. And then, in an instant, he wasn’t. Even after the home run to Sam Fuld, Burnett was still just one out away from ending the sixth inning and keeping the Yankees in front by two runs. Two singles, two wild pitches and a bad curveball to B.J. Upton changed this game in a hurry.

That was tonight’s tooth-pulling moment.

“This is a tough one,” Russell Martin said. “We had a decent lead at certain points, so those games you definitely want to win, especially when you’ve got a guy like A.J. who’s been throwing the ball really good. But there’s going to be tough ones. We’re in a tough stretch right now, but good teams know how to get out of them, and I think we’re a good team.”

From the bad to the bizarre, Rafael Soriano is going to see Dr. Ahmad tomorrow. His elbow felt tight again this afternoon and he had to cut his bullpen session short. Girardi seemed legitimately concerned about his setup man, who said he felt better today than last week, and who said he felt “a lot different” from his injury plagued 2008 season.

Of all the things he said, though, tonight’s Soriano interview will be remembered for three things, all of them suggesting he skipped the media training session this spring.

At one point Soriano said he had been advised to take a week or two off, but when asked who gave him the advice, he said it was team vice president Felix Lopez, who Soriano had been talking to pregame. The Yankees later clarified that Lopez had been acting as a sort of intermediary for the training staff. Maybe that’s explainable, but two other comments suggest Soriano will need to apologize more than Jorge Posada.

Asked whether it bothers him to not be able to pitch, Soriano threw his lineup under the bus: “I don’t think the bullpen be the problem right now. I think it be the hitters. That thing happens sometimes. Whatever we have to do, make a good game and see what happens. One of these days, everything be better.”

Given a second chance to answer essentially the same question, Soriano was asked how much it’s bothered him to miss games against Boston and Tampa Bay: “Not at all, to me,” he said. “Because in the situation, how the team looks be the situation when I’m supposed to be in the game, the eighth. Everybody see, (the team is) losing two, three runs. I don’t think it be that situation that I would be in the bullpen, that I would be in the game.”

Here’s the Soriano group session, which will surely create some sort of stir.

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• Robinson Cano fouled a ball off his left leg, just above the knee. He was clearly hobbled late in the game. “It hurt a little bit,” he said. “Hopefully I’ll be alright tomorrow.”

• Given the way A.J. Burnett pitched through the first five innings, and the fact he got two outs before two ground ball singles, Girardi said he never seriously considered bringing a reliever to pitch to B.J. Upton. “Of course you have confidence that he’s going to be able to shut it down,” Girardi said. “Even after he gave up the two-run homer to Sam Fuld, you believe that he’s going to shut it down, get you through seven innings and do his job. It just didn’t happen.”

• If he had a full bullpen, though, Girardi said the sixth inning might have been different. The Yankees didn’t have Rafael Soriano or Dave Robertson available. “If you have a full bullpen, you might have different options,” Girardi said. “But we don’t right now.”

• The pitch to Upton was a curveball that Burnett said he didn’t get low enough. After a fastball up on the previous pitch, Russell Martin said he thought the Yankees could get Upton with a breaking ball. “The hook to Upton floated in there,” Burnett said. “It’s got to be bounced.”

• As you might expect, Burnett was kicking himself and put the loss on himself. “Taking nothing away from the Rays, they’re a good-hitting team, but I had way too good of stuff tonight,” he said. “I was locating early, mixing early, and it just got away. You can’t allow it to happen, not when (the Yankees hitters) came out like they did tonight swinging the bats.”

• Curtis Granderson is absolutely the bright side for the Yankees right now. He leads the big leagues with seven home runs against left-handed pitchers. Tonight’s was the first left-handed home run David Price had allowed since Chase Utley hit one in 2009. Price had faced 310 consecutive lefties without giving up a homer.

• On the other end of the spectrum is Alex Rodriguez, who took an 0-for-4 with three strikeouts. His batting average is down to .242. “I sense he’s probably frustrated like a lot of other hitters we have,” Girardi said. “But I’m not sure what pressing means. I see Alex do his work, I see him relaxed every day. I see him go about his business the right way; the results just haven’t been there.”

• Why pinch hit Brett Gardner for Andruw Jones, who had good numbers off Kyle Farnsworth? “You’ve got the speed there,” Girardi said. “And Gardy’s been doing a pretty good job off of righthanders the last three and a half weeks.”

• Strange defensive game for Eduardo Nunez who made another throwing error — he has six errors this season, a massive number for a guy who hardly plays — but he also made several nice plays, starting a double play and charging a bunt. “This is an adjustment that he has to make,” Girardi said. “We’ll continue to work with him.”

• Of course, it helps Nunez’s case that he had the only non-Granderson RBI on a two-out, two-run single in the second inning.

• Before that game-winning home run, Upton was 7-for-36 (.194) with no home runs in his career against Burnett. That’s the way the Yankees season is going right now.

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118 Responses to “Postgame notes: “It’s like when I have to go to the dentist””

  1. Against All Odds May 16th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    RS May 16th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    What a joke the NL is. It’s only the 11th inning and the Mets are forced to use a pitcher to pinch hit as the tying run.

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    Who just got a triple.

    Sterling: That’s baseball isn’t it amazing.

  2. Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    Too bad that Girardi doesn’t think to use his pitchers to pinch hit. CC is actually quite a good hitter. His lifetime BA is .258, which is better than most everybody on this team this year.

  3. tampayank May 17th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Soriano clearly doesn’t understand the New York Media, signing him was a mistake

  4. tyanksfan36 May 17th, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Rivera pitched in the game last night and we were losing didnt he? Soriano really needs to get over himself.

  5. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 12:07 am

    It may not be politic, but as non-circular as this lineup is (it’s almost linear) they really need to stack their best (or hottest) hitters at the top of the batting order. They don’t have the luxury of waiting.

  6. Carlo May 17th, 2011 at 12:13 am

    The biggest day of the offseason will be the day soriano declares whether he is picking up his player option for 2012. What a complete goon.

  7. Carlo May 17th, 2011 at 12:14 am

    Anyone know the % of our runs granderson has scored or accounted for in the past 10 games?

  8. West Coast Yankee Fan May 17th, 2011 at 12:15 am

    “Of course you have confidence that he’s going to be able to shut it down,” Girardi said. “Even after he gave up the two-run homer to Sam Fuld, you believe that he’s going to shut it down, get you through seven innings and do his job. It just didn’t happen.”

    *******************

    I had confidence that I was going to ____________. It just didn’t happen.

  9. West Coast Yankee Fan May 17th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Please don’t ever laugh at the Mets anymore.

    Cliff Lee —-> Derek Jeter ——> Jorge Posada ——> Rafael Soriano.

    The Bronx Zoo. Take two.

  10. TheStraw May 17th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    WCYF-

    As I stated bfore this looks like 1977. But I’d love the same result.

  11. UnKnown May 17th, 2011 at 12:19 am

    Soriano is an absolute lala land. What disaster he has been to date. That dude can’t stay out of his own way.

  12. TheStraw May 17th, 2011 at 12:20 am

    Anyone want to bet the Sox sign Millwood now that Lackey is on the DL?

  13. BIG AL May 17th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Where have all the Yankees fans gone ……… Lokking for fair weather elsewhere.

  14. Nick in SF May 17th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    The pampered Pinstriped proletariat need to stop playing like lazy, hapless Mensheviks and start playing like ruthless, cunning Bolsheviks.

    You have to WIN before you can terrorize your opposition and modernize your feudal, agrarian society!

    :mad:

  15. Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Not 1977. More like 1965. The good news, however, is the Yanks finished 6th in 1965; they can’t finish lower than 5th this year.

  16. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 12:23 am

    “Anyone want to bet the Sox sign Millwood now that Lackey is on the DL?”

    Maybe they can reacquire Masterson.

  17. BIG AL May 17th, 2011 at 12:24 am

    We need a Cashman moment, like when he visited the team in Atlanta, and they turned their season around after that.

  18. West Coast Yankee Fan May 17th, 2011 at 12:26 am

    Martin and Lyle. lol

  19. Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    What about Aaron Small? He’s been out of baseball since 2006, so he fits the Yankees profile for a replacement starter. On the other hand, he’s only 39, so he may be a bit young for this club.

  20. TheStraw May 17th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Niblick you’re smoking crack if you think this team is only going to win 77 games.

  21. TD213 May 17th, 2011 at 12:28 am

    Worst Yankee team since 1992?

  22. Wang IS Taiwan May 17th, 2011 at 12:29 am

    Wow — Soriano has an extremely high opinion of himself, I’d say. What a horrible signing. There is no “team” in this guy at all. Just what we need right now.

  23. Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Straw: it’s not the number of wins; it’s the collapse of a team that contended (or won) the pennant year after year. In 1965, a combination of veterans who were aging, underperformance by other players, a lack of young talent (other than Mel Stottlemyre), and a totally screwed up front office/organization, led to the downfall of the team and a long, long drought.

  24. TheStraw May 17th, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Look, they stink right now. But is a lomg season and there is no way they are as bad as the seasons you guys are referencing.

  25. RSM May 17th, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Yes,
    1965 seems a more appropriate comparison at this point.

  26. Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Straw: they may not be as bad, in terms of number of wins, but the same factors are at work here that were present in 1965. That’s the scary part. And, like 1965, there doesn’t seem to be any immediate help available from their vaunted minor league system.

  27. Ace May 17th, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Is soriano the stiff wrong??

  28. ChokeXOnXFailure May 17th, 2011 at 12:35 am

    “You can’t allow it to happen, not when (the Yankees hitters) came out like they did tonight swinging the bats.”?

    No.

    This is another one of those deceptive games, where you look at the score and say “They scored 5 runs? That’s a pretty decent amount”, and figure it was the pitching that blew the game.

    While I’m not excusing Burnett’s terrible 6th inning, what you don’t see is that after Granderson’s home run in the 4th inning, they had exactly one other man on base. One man on base from the 4th inning on. Five innings, one runner.

    So no. The offense didn’t have a good game. They did what they’ve done the last 3 weeks: Get a lead, decide it’s enough, don’t tack on when they should be able to, let the other team get back in the game, get down a run, and then quit, because “Who cares, we aren’t going to win anyway”.

    These guys are playing with absolutely no heart right now, and it’s really gotten impossible to watch. This has nothing to do with being “fairweather”. It has everything to do with having it physically pain me to watch these guys go out and quit on the team. As a diehard fan, I just can’t do something that pains me this much anymore. They don’t have to win every game, but they have to play like they care. Right now, they aren’t. As a fan of baseball, I just can’t stomach watching that.

  29. BIG AL May 17th, 2011 at 12:35 am

    Most buried the Red Sox and Rays when they got off to terrible starts, and now you want to bury the Yankees due to a very poor stretch.

    I’ll bet those here spitting on the Yankees will be the first ones jumping on the bandwagon when they turn it around.

    This team is too talented to stay down, they will get back on track, and will be successful

  30. West Coast Yankee Fan May 17th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    I just cannot believe that the RedSux have won more games than we have. Un-bleepin’ believable. Oh, did I mention 13 other teams in baseball have also?

  31. EA May 17th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    Didn’t the 27 Yankees get off to a rough start too before turning it around?

    I recall Babe Ruth hitting a HR off James Waffle in St. Louis when the team was around the .500 mark in May and ended up going 17-5 the rest of the month

  32. TheStraw May 17th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Again I state that their current problems have nothing to do with age, except for Posada and possibly Jeter. They are just underperforming AT THE MOMENT. The question is whether or not they will turn it around. I believe they are too talented not to. 1965-1976 will not happen, the farm system is decently stocked enough to produce some players and enough trade to acquire others. There was no free agency in 1965 either.

    If you want to compare it to a year, 2008 is a closer comlarison, although I think this team is far better than that one.

  33. West Coast Yankee Fan May 17th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    One can only hope this team plays better and there is a bandwagon to jump on. We are all rooting for the Yankees, no one here wants them to lose. But the negative assessment of this team right now is 100% on the mark. There is no inconsistency in that whatsoever.

  34. Jerkface May 17th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    This is another one of those deceptive games, where you look at the score and say “They scored 5 runs? That’s a pretty decent amount”, and figure it was the pitching that blew the game.

    Pitching blew the game. 5 runs is 5 runs dude, teams kill to score 5 runs. Whats the difference between scoring 5 runs early and scoring 5 runs spread out and scoring 5 runs late?

  35. Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    EA: You recall that? I’m surprised that anyone old enough to be around in 1927 could recall anything from that year.

  36. BIG AL May 17th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    ” As a diehard fan, I just can’t do something that pains me this much anymore. ”

    =======================================

    End your pain, don’t watch the games anymore.

  37. LGY May 17th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Is Soriano friggin serious???

    I didn’t think it was possible to hate that signing more, but amazingly this guy finds a way.

    Two years and 5 months more of this jerkoff because of that idiot Levine. Awesome.

  38. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 12:42 am

    If the Yankees are as willing to offend other underperforming players at they were with the Posada, they can easily turn this around.

  39. TheStraw May 17th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    You know luck also plays a factor. A call that is slightly off by an ump. A foul ball that goes in the stands by a foot prior to an exta base hit. Even errors and mistake pitches. These things even out over time and the results change. It is a much bigger part ofnthe game than anyone ver gives credit for. The Yankees have not finished under .500 since 1992. Does that mean it’s impossible? No. But i would say it is unlikely.

    This is not a stay the course post, though. Changes need to be made.

  40. lounge lizard May 17th, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Is soriano the stiff wrong??

    ______________________________________

    Yes, because he first declared himself unavailable in the KC series, which cost us the extra innings game that started the losing streak. Tonight’s game was affected because Robertson was overworked and the pen short, which caused Girardi to leave Burnett in.

    Probably at least two losses attributable to his taking a vacation. He will not opt out because no one will pay him more. He has no reason to pitch for his next contract until 2013. A predicable disaster.

  41. BIG AL May 17th, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Night folks – Keep the faith!

  42. michaels07 May 17th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    Girardi is a terrible mgr , he has to be fired, but he was signed to a three yr contract in the offseason another Stei Cash mistake. the Steinbrenners should sell the franchise to a group of Yankee Bloggers reduce the price of the seats behind home plate.ask waivers on Posada.

  43. vinslol May 17th, 2011 at 12:54 am

    Burnett fell apart a bit in the 6th, some of it is on him but jesus christ if these guys couldn’t look any more complacent with a lead with the way they’ve been playing

    then they lose it and suddenly they look lost at the plate against average at best relievers

    it really is painful to watch these last few games..I’ve always been a huge yankees fan but I can moreso watch root for the mets and when they lose well, I’m not really expecting them to win big,the yankees don’t have that excuse.

  44. ChokeXOnXFailure May 17th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    This is another one of those deceptive games, where you look at the score and say “They scored 5 runs? That’s a pretty decent amount”, and figure it was the pitching that blew the game.

    Pitching blew the game. 5 runs is 5 runs dude, teams kill to score 5 runs. Whats the difference between scoring 5 runs early and scoring 5 runs spread out and scoring 5 runs late?
    ——————————————————————

    Jerkface,

    Because for 5 innings, they did nothing. I’m not scoffing at 5 runs, don’t get me wrong. It’s a lot of runs. Even I thought the game was in hand, and things were finally back to being “normal”.

    But you can’t come out and say the offense did it’s job when they did absolutely nothing for more than half the game.

    The problem with the offense has been inconsistency, and uneven play. Scoring 5 runs in 4 innings, and then getting 1 man on base the rest of the game is just more of that.

    To put it another way…They scored 5 runs early, and the pitching blew it in the 6th. That means they had 9 batters to get 1 run. All 9 batters made out. If the team was doing what it was supposed to do, they would’ve at least threatened, or gotten someone on base. But all 9 guys went down. I know that the pitchers DO have something to say about that, but the ABs they took in those last 3 innings were dreadful. How many pitches did Farnsworth throw? If I remember correctly, Swisher saw 1, Gardner saw 4, and Martin saw 2. You’re going to let KYLE FARNSWORTH, who did nothing buy walk guys and get himself in trouble when he was here, get out of the inning on 7 pitches?

    Like I said, 5 runs is a lot of runs, and AJ absolutely DID blow the game. But the offense got them early and went to sleep, and I can’t applaud them for that.

  45. Jerkface May 17th, 2011 at 1:09 am

    I wager that most teams that allow 6 runs lose. Teams are 99 and 5 this year when their offense scores 6+ runs. I’m not saying applaud the offense, but they really weren’t the problem. Obviously once AJ blows the game they need to try and come back, but its not going to happen as often as anyone thinks it does.

  46. stuart a May 17th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    soriano and jorge and jeter should hang out together.

    the 3 clueless. jeter thinks he can still play, jorge the same, and soriano cares about only 1 person and that is him…

    counting on aj for anything is like counting on ed whitson. the great aj has a 3.99 era, that is probably the lowest it will be moving forward.

    martin is a star and he is hitting 250… jeter hits like a pitcher, arod is totally lsot and such a woosie.. tex yech, swisher o for 17 with RISP, jeter 2 for 21 men from 3rd.m the beat goes on. granderson at 280 + is the top hitter……………….

    we need new blood fast… cut jorge and andruw jones, bring up some young guys, hit jeter 8th, imagine the tabloids with that one…..

  47. LGY May 17th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    The loss was on AJ Burnett. It’s as simple as that.

    I don’t care what happened before, after, or in between. When your offense hands you a 5-1 lead against one of the best pitchers in baseball you can’t self combust and blow it in one inning.

    AJ completely melted down in a game the Yankees desperately needed to win.

  48. LGY May 17th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    Against an offense that averages less than 3 runs per game at home to add insult to injury.

  49. stuart a May 17th, 2011 at 1:19 am

    dunn on the marlins a yankee trade chip to get I think javier vazquez is pitching real good for the marlins right now. a lefty reliever the yanks threw away. they have only been looking for a good lefty releiver for about 10 years……….

    ouch…………….

  50. Jerkface May 17th, 2011 at 1:21 am

    dunn on the marlins a yankee trade chip to get I think javier vazquez is pitching real good for the marlins right now. a lefty reliever the yanks threw away. they have only been looking for a good lefty releiver for about 10 years……….

    Walking 6 guys per 9. Thats a recipe for disaster in the AL

  51. LGY May 17th, 2011 at 1:40 am

    Alex in his last 84 PAs:

    .175/.214/.238

    27% K rate, 3.6% walk rate

  52. jacksquat May 17th, 2011 at 1:43 am

    Niblick May 17th, 2011 at 12:02 am
    Too bad that Girardi doesn’t think to use his pitchers to pinch hit. CC is actually quite a good hitter. His lifetime BA is .258, which is better than most everybody on this team this year.

    One word: Wang

  53. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 1:48 am

    “Alex in his last 84 PAs:”

    That’s why I think he’s hurt or hurting.

  54. jacksquat May 17th, 2011 at 1:51 am

    I defended Soriano, but not after that statement.

    Hopefully he dislikes being the eigth inning reliever so much he opts out.

  55. stuart a May 17th, 2011 at 2:23 am

    soriano will not opt out especially if he has a bad year or is injured.

    thanks levine, steinny boys, and the rest of the panic brigade that if they do not get a few new toys each offseason go in full panic mode.

    i liked the feliciano signing but this I did not. to much coin and to long…….

  56. Jerkface May 17th, 2011 at 2:40 am

    I’m about facing a bit on the options. At least this wasn’t a GUARANTEED 3 year deal. There is some hope, albeit small, that Soriano opts out.

  57. Nick in SF May 17th, 2011 at 2:50 am

    Felix has advised him against opting out.

  58. Madrugador May 17th, 2011 at 6:02 am

    Early on, while Soriano was blowing games, someone predicted he would come up with a fake injury so he wouldn’t have to play. Now he has it. The Yanks have a couple of good options at the triple A level. Move Robertson to the set up role and let’s see some mnor league talent. It won’t be worse than Soriano and I am sure they won’t mouth off like he does either.

  59. Gary May 17th, 2011 at 6:08 am

    “This is a tough one,” Russell Martin said. “We had a decent lead at certain points, so those games you definitely want to win, especially when you’ve got a guy like A.J. who’s been throwing the ball really good. But there’s going to be tough ones. We’re in a tough stretch right now, but good teams know how to get out of them, and I think we’re a good team

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    Unbelievable as I watched the latest installment of the train coming off the tracks last night. AJ hopefully only morphed back to last years form for one game. Troubling that the excuse has now gone to all teams go through this stretch. With the age factor creeping in and the sustained poor performance of a number of players it seems debateable at this point just how good they really are. I hope this “tough period” is just about over as we are going backwards right now at a pretty rapid rate.

  60. Gary May 17th, 2011 at 6:10 am

    Madrugador May 17th, 2011 at 6:02 am
    Early on, while Soriano was blowing games, someone predicted he would come up with a fake injury so he wouldn’t have to play. Now he has it. The Yanks have a couple of good options at the triple A level. Move Robertson to the set up role and let’s see some mnor league talent. It won’t be worse than Soriano and I am sure they won’t mouth off like he does either.

    ________________________________________________________________________

    I kind of wish that Soriano was the problem out there right now. It is a problem, but not having an impact on what is happening out there right now. I wish we could get to a situation where the setup man has a role in the game outcome.

  61. ron May 17th, 2011 at 6:15 am

    Thats why you don’t give a setup man that much money.

    I hated the signing.

    We have terrible luck signing pen arms.

    Someone would of stepped up that we don’t know about.

  62. Ghostwriter May 17th, 2011 at 6:21 am

    LGY May 17th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    The loss was on AJ Burnett. It’s as simple as that.

    I don’t care what happened before, after, or in between. When your offense hands you a 5-1 lead against one of the best pitchers in baseball you can’t self combust and blow it in one inning.

    AJ completely melted down in a game the Yankees desperately needed to win.
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    That’s about 80 percent true. Girardi shares the rest of the blame for this one. There is no way that AJ should have been allowed to relinquish the lead. We’ve seen this movie before with AJ; he should have gone to get him after the second wild pitch, and arguably, he should have gotten him after the first wild pitch. Especially considering how badly we needed that game last night to end the losing streak.

    That said, all of the front-runners pronouncing the team old and predicting more than 80 losses this year are beyond the pale, and in all candor, pretty darn annoying. The Yanks are going through a bad stretch right now. You can’t look at a team at its lowest point, and realistically decide that its performance at it nadir is representative of their true capability going forward. Boston was pronounced dead by many earlier in the season. So was Tampa. Many said Ortiz was done last year. That’s was trying to base predictions on a small sample will get you. I wonder how many of the people that are “realistically” and “objectively” writing off the Yankees right now, wrote off the Yanks in 2009. Don’t these people learn?

    This Yankee team is good enough to compete in the AL East, and in all likelihood, barring injury, they will be in the race until the very end. In a division as tough as the AL East this year, with 4 potential 90-game winners in it, having a shot to win ithe divsision is about all that you can ask If the Yanks are still struggling come June, then they are going to have to make some moves to shake things up a bit. My guess is that they’ll be winning by then, and the last couple of weeks will have become a moot point.

  63. Ghostwriter May 17th, 2011 at 6:32 am

    ChokeXOnXFailure May 17th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    This is another one of those deceptive games, where you look at the score and say “They scored 5 runs? That’s a pretty decent amount”, and figure it was the pitching that blew the game.

    Pitching blew the game. 5 runs is 5 runs dude, teams kill to score 5 runs. Whats the difference between scoring 5 runs early and scoring 5 runs spread out and scoring 5 runs late?
    ——————————————————————

    Jerkface,

    Because for 5 innings, they did nothing. I’m not scoffing at 5 runs, don’t get me wrong. It’s a lot of runs. Even I thought the game was in hand, and things were finally back to being “normal”.

    Like I said, 5 runs is a lot of runs, and AJ absolutely DID blow the game. But the offense got them early and went to sleep, and I can’t applaud them for that.

    =======================================
    Soooo, the offense was terrible because it scored 5 runs and not 7? Sure. Check. Got it. Are you familiar with the part about how it is difficult to hit a baseball, especially against Major League pitching?

  64. The Mick536 May 17th, 2011 at 7:00 am

    This will get worse.

  65. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:04 am

    I don’t know what’s wrong with what Soriano said about the hitters, it’s true.

    A few more runs on the board and the pen wouldn’t look so bad.

    “I don’t think the bullpen (is) the problem right now,’’ Soriano said”

  66. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:06 am

    This prolonged slump has more to do with risp and defense more then anything else.

    There is some truth in what Soriano said.

  67. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Jeter and Posada are angry at Cashman ?

    Great besides that how about some hits?

  68. Mike Ri May 17th, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Man Arod had an awful game ! .

  69. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:13 am

    Nunez works the reliever last night for 9 pitches in a good at bat to soften him up for Jeter the next batter, Jeter steps into the box to pop out on the first pitch thrown to him. 0-3 with

    I want to see some leadership from Posada and Jeter.

  70. Ghostwriter May 17th, 2011 at 7:14 am

    RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:06 am

    This prolonged slump has more to do with risp and defense more then anything else.

    There is some truth in what Soriano said.
    ============================================

    There is a lot of truth in what he said. But he still shouldn’t have said it. It was very impolitic of him, and now the reporters will be following him around the place, trying to gin up a controversy of some sort.

  71. sunny615 May 17th, 2011 at 7:15 am

    Everyone outside of Granderson had an awful game.

  72. Mike Ri May 17th, 2011 at 7:27 am

    Everyone outside of Granderson had an awful game.

    —-
    True .

  73. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:27 am

    Gin up controversy?

    Where have you been?

    All this controversy would mitigate if the guys who are being handsomely compensated to get hits do so.

  74. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:31 am

    The best thing that could have happened is that the Stein brothers had granted Jorgie’s request to be released.

    That’s the big stink that’s festering.

    Wait until he goes 0-4 tonight.

  75. Mike Ri May 17th, 2011 at 7:41 am

    RhapsodyInBlue–

    The best thing that could have happened is that the Stein brothers had granted Jorgie’s request to be released.

    —-

    As much as i wouldn’t mind seeing that happen . . .the best thing for the Yanks is to ride out Posada for the year…….. Its his last year.

  76. raymagnetic May 17th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    The Yankees look bad right now.

  77. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    I’m all for moving on, but I think all that has happened is that a lot of the tension has been buried, to re-emerge.

    It’s only May, Posada struggling and complaining, undermining team moral is not going to help anything.

    Let the Diva have his wish and let him go home and take care of his art collection.

  78. randy l. May 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    “The Yankees look bad right now.”

    raymagnetic-

    they do , but they’re not getting killed by other teams. two of the games with the red sox were close.the game last night was close. it’s possible this is just a bad luck period where a few breaks at the right time would have resulted in a few more wins and there wouldn’t be the panic that appears to be settling in.

    it does get late early with the yankees. they need a win to get the pressure and media spotlight off this little bump in the road..

  79. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    The losing bs stops tonight.

  80. RhapsodyInBlue May 17th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Have a great day everyone.

    I lived through Billy and George I can live through this as unpleasant as it is.

  81. Mell May 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    they do , but they’re not getting killed by other teams

    ======================

    Do losses come with style points now? It’s been about bad play, not bad luck. Who cares if the games are close. They blew 3+ run leads the past two games. That’s not luck. Starters ERA the last time thru the rotation was 7.52. They walked 11 Royals in one game. They’ve allowed 7 unearned runs during this losing streak. There have been errors, passed balls, failure to turn double plays, minimal timely hitting, etc. Nothing unlucky about this 6 game losing streak. They’ve earned every bit of it.

  82. Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Soriano absolutely threw his team under the bus, but overall, I get the idea that he just doesn’t get the whole media thing. I just get the idea that he’s more clueless than anything else.

  83. Frankg May 17th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    The Yankees could certainly use one or more of these young, healthy, and currently effective relief pitchers they let slip through their hands in the past few years—M.Dunn(1.96 ERA), Melancon(1.83), McCutchen(.053), Clippard(1.80), Aceves(2.60).

  84. Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    This game was on AJ who performed quite a choke job

  85. Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Yankees are awful right now – and it doesn’t matter if they are losing close games. That actually makes it more disturbing – that they can’t win the close games. They make bad plays at the wrong time, bad pitches at the wrong time – even against bad teams.

  86. RayVT May 17th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Nope! This game was on the team. Poor fielding. Poor execution. Poor play. Poor Coaching. AJ should have been out before the last HR. One of the principles of so called managing is to never let your pitcher suffer a defeat after 5+ innings of pitching well. AJ should have been out after the 1st HR. Why are the Yanks carrying 13 pitchers if they can only use a few?

  87. 108 stitches May 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Jeter never has or ever will be a vocal leader. He’ll never be the Captain Thurman Munson was.
    Never could understand Jeter standing around joking and laughing with opposing players at 2nd base when he should be discussing strategy with his 3rd or 2nd baseman.

  88. Mell May 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    This game was on AJ who performed quite a choke job

    ==========================

    Strange effort as that 6th inning kinda came out of nowhere. He was cruising thru 5. Only at about 60 pitches and aside from Damon’s homer, nothing was really hit terribly hard.

  89. Abe Peteraham May 17th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    HAH, being a dentist I can tell you watching the Yanks at this point is much more painful than coming into my office!

  90. blake May 17th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    I think Girardi needs a new dentist :)

    After 6 straight losses Im kinda numb to it at this point…..if there is a way to lose they are finding it. AJ looked good last night and then imploded …..something he has avoided this season.

    I don’t think this team will turn things around until Arod does…..I can’t remember him ever looking this lost at the plate. I do think its just a deep deep mechanical and timing funk though…..so hopefully he will break out of it. When you’re in a slump facing Buchholtz, Beckett, Lester, and Price on consecutive nights doesn’t help.

    I don’t know what to say about Soriano……I liked the on field part of the signing a lot when they did it. Its not working out at all…..he’s not pitching well, he has no idea how to handle the media, and injuries are popping up. The bad news is there is no way he’s opting out of that contract without a major turn around …..and even then the past 6 weeks should have scared other teams enough that he wont get anything more than he’s already gotten.

  91. Triple Short of a Cycle May 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    What do you mean he doesn’t get the media? The guy has been in the league for a number of years.

    Plus why is Lopez telling him to rest for a week to 2 weeks? If the guy is “hurt” you DL him. Are you telling me they are going to play shorthanded for 2 weeks?

  92. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    The game was on everyone. Yeah, AJ blew the game, but then guys have to pick him up and score some more runs.

  93. Erin May 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    ?It’s like when I have to go to the dentist,? Girardi said. ?I know I’m going to get through it, but I still dread it every time I go.”

    ***************
    ugh…that reminds me I have to go to the dentist next month. :x

  94. YankeeRay May 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Not a good time:
    A Gonzalez is a way better hitter than Tex. Though we won a championship with Tex, the Sox got the better player in the long run. He will make Tex look silly over the next 7 years.

    With a 5-1 lead in the 6th and the Sox trailing 6-0 it looked like a good night. Once Boston cut it to 6-5 you knew they would win and sure enough Agon goes the other way twice for 3 RBI’s and the game winner, something Tex can’t do.

    Farnsworth gets the save against us?

    Aceves comes in and looks lights out getting the win? We couldn’t use him in our pen right now?

    Posada looked like a fool Saturday on national TV and Jeter had the nerve to say it was no big deal? Pull out against the Sox on national TV when we need him and a win? You want to leave the team? Negotiated a 4th year when Cash knew better and now you feel disrespected?

    All that and I still wore my blue and grey suit to work today. Hopefully this is rock bottom.

  95. Mike Ri May 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    I don?t think this team will turn things around until Arod does

    Blake i agree 100 percent ! .. Arod is the engine on this team.. Seems like when he’s on fire the whole team catches fire.

  96. Mell May 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Yankees are awful right now – and it doesn’t matter if they are losing close games. That actually makes it more disturbing – that they can’t win the close games. They make bad plays at the wrong time, bad pitches at the wrong time – even against bad teams

    =========================

    There is some upside here. First of all, nobody has been playing all that great to this point in the AL East, thus nobody is running and hiding with the division. Secondly, teams will have stretches like these over the course of 162. The same things being written about the Yankees, were written about the Rays and Red Sox the first 10-12 games of the season. Tampa has played over. 700 since and Boston has played about .650. No reason the Yankees can’t do that over the next 30 games or so. You’re never as bad as you look at your worst or as good as look at your best. This is the Yankees worst. They’ll be better.

  97. Erin May 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Hopefully Cano will be OK.

    I’m convinced that what threw AJ off was realzing that he actually had run support. That must have been quite a shock. ;)

    Soriano’s comments are…interesting. I wish an executive at my company would advise me to take a week or two off. LOL

  98. Triple Short of a Cycle May 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Frankg,

    Just what we need. A guy who could never stay healthy for us and NL trash

  99. Erin May 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 8:26 am
    The game was on everyone. Yeah, AJ blew the game, but then guys have to pick him up and score some more runs.

    ********************
    agreed.

  100. Mell May 17th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Plus why is Lopez telling him to rest for a week to 2 weeks? If the guy is “hurt” you DL him. Are you telling me they are going to play shorthanded for 2 weeks?

    =====================

    Hard not to believe that something was lost in translation here.

  101. Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Ray, nope – disagree. It was all on AJ – guy choked away a big lead.

  102. Erin May 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Mell-great post @ 8:28.

  103. Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Blake, Alex will be fine – he’s not a worry to me. However, it’s pathetic that this team supposedly full of good hitters besides HOFers and near HOFers depends so much on him. That does not speak well of them.

  104. Betsy May 17th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Mell, I’m sure they will be better, but the Rays will never go away because of their pitching and I think the Sox are now in it to stay. I’m not overly confident, but maybe they’ll play better while I’m away, lol.. I have a bad feeling about the subway series.

  105. Mell May 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am

    Betsy:

    I agree that the Yankees are probably not good enough to runaway with the division, but I never thought that. Also don’t think anyone running away from them though. It’s going to be competitive. Every team has some obvious strengths and obvious issues.

    As for the subway series, the Mets come in battered and w/o their two biggest bats. Yankees should be able to make some hay this weekend.

  106. RadioKev May 17th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    If the Yankees lose to the Mets it will be officially rock bottom. I agree with Mell on this, I don’t think the Mets could pull it off with their current line up.

  107. Erin May 17th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    I actually have a good feeling about the rest of this week. If Baltimore and the Mets can’t snap them out of this, nothing will. ;)

  108. blake May 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Betsy,

    Alex was the best hitter in baseball again to start the season ….you take a guy like that and replace him with what he’s doing now in any lineup and its going to hurt. The bad thing is that the rest of the team went into a deep freeze with him….which I doubt was coincidence

  109. randy l. May 17th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    the yankees are not having one thing going wrong right now.they have a lot of things going wrong.

    alex, teixeira, swisher, posada, jeter, and others are contributing to the slump. gardner is a total bust with the speed game though he’s hitting lately.

    i do think it wouldn’t hurt to rethink the line up. leaving slumping players in key spots in the line up doesn’t make sense. teixeira and arod at the 3 and 4 hole are the first place i’d change just to shake things up.

    plus if you move them around and they are not locked into a spot, it makes it easier to have everyone get used to being moved around.

    with this aging team there are going to be lots of problems from time to time as it transitions over the next few years. a set line up doesn’t give the flexibility needed.

  110. Triple Short of a Cycle May 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    blake,

    Of course its going to hurt but the lineup shouldn’t be paralyzed like this when he goes cold. Are we going to have to wait till June for Tex to get hot or will it last longer now since he had a good first couple of weeks.

  111. Rich in NJ May 17th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    “i do think it wouldn’t hurt to rethink the line up. leaving slumping players in key spots in the line up doesn’t make sense. teixeira and arod at the 3 and 4 hole are the first place i’d change just to shake things up”

    Yes, that’s what I’ve been saying. No sacred cows, so Jeter has to be moved as well.

  112. randy l. May 17th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    blake-

    i don’t think we’re ever going to see alex be the best hitter in baseball again. he was good last year , but that was it.

    he’s no superstar anymore.

  113. Triple Short of a Cycle May 17th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    I keep on hearing how this is an old team yet

    Gardner,Swisher,Martin,Tex,Cano,Granderson are all in thier primes. That is 2/3 of their lineup and once Montero comes up that will be 7 out of 9 hitters that are young

  114. Erin May 17th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    New Post: Return to form, or a bump in the road?

    :arrow:

  115. randy l. May 17th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    “Yes, that’s what I’ve been saying. No sacred cows, so Jeter has to be moved as well.”

    i would move anyone and everyone if necessary.

    at the same time, i wouldn’t move jeter to the ninth spot forever either.

    he could get moved back to lead off or second when he starts hitting.

    but i guess we agree that with this team more flexibility is needed.

    teixeira just killed the yankees last year and just leaving him in the third spot when he was clearly
    in a deep slump hurt the yankees.

    yup, get them all used to having to check the line up each day.

  116. Mell May 17th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    i don’t think we’re ever going to see alex be the best hitter in baseball again. he was good last year , but that was it.

    he’s no superstar anymore
    =====================

    I agree, Randy. He’s still obviously a capable bat, with 30/100 potential, but his days of being a 1.000+ OPS force of nature are long gone. As it is, I wonder whether he isn’t a little hurt right now. He simply hasn’t been the same since suffering whatever that injury was back in April. At his age, even the little things can be a little more difficult to bounce back from.

  117. CCBiggs May 17th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    At least Soriano speaks well!

  118. Frankg May 17th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Someone above mentioned where would we be without Granderson’s hitting in this losing streak? I have watched him in Detroit for years and now in NY, and he tends to do well in a losing cause. When it comes to winning games, he is much less effective, somewhat like Posada in past years. You look at both of their numbers at the end of the year, and they are quite impressive and you think that they are valuable to the team, but they they did more to help them lose games by fewer runs than they did to help their teams win games.


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