Game 43: Yankees vs. Mets
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 20, 2011 
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Yankees lineup
1. Derek Jeter SS
2. Curtis Granderson CF
3. Mark Teixeira 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Robinson Cano 2B
6. Russell Martin C
7. Jorge Posada DH
8. Nick Swisher RF
9. Brett Gardner LF
Freddy Garcia P
Mets lineup
1. Jose Reyes SS
2. Daniel Murphy 1B
3. Carlos Beltran RF
4. Jason Bay LF
5. Fernando Martinez DH
6. Justin Turner 3B
7. Josh Thole C
8. Jason Pridie CF
9. Ruben Tejada 2B
R.A. Dickey P
Time/TV: 7:08, MY9
Umpires: Tim Timmons HP, Jeff Kellogg 1B, Eric Cooper 2B, Mark Carlson 3B
Weather: 62 degrees, mostly cloudy
Battering the Mets: Derek Jeter is No. 2 all time with a .380 average (117 for 308) against the Mets for players with at least 150 plate appearances.
Interleague champs: The Yankees begin this latest round of interleague play with the most wins (144) and best winning percentage (.585) in AL vs. NL play.
Bad home cooking: The Yankees have lost five straight at home. They have dropped six straight at home just once since 1990. That came when they lost eight in a row in 2003.
Update, 7:13: Good start for Garcia, just one walk in the first. Garcia was released by the Mets’ organization after just two Triple-A starts two years ago when he was on the way back from shoulder surgery.
Update, 7:20: 1-2-3 first for Dickey. Be interesting to see how the Yankees do against the knuckleball after erupting for 13 runs last night.
Update, 7:24: What was up with that? Robinson Cano threw way wide of first trying to double up Justin Turner. E-4. Turner on second with two outs.
Update, 7:36: Bases loaded, two outs for Gardner here in the second.
Update, 7:39: A-Rod leads off with a double and doesn’t score. Gardner bounces to third.
Update, 7:51: Teixeira just snuck one into the right-field seats in the third, No. 11, his second in two nights. It’s 1-0.
Update, 8:00: Justin Turner is looking like a find for the Mets. He has been very productive lately. Now comes this RBI double in the fourth, and we’re tied.
Update, 8:11: Swisher goes down swinging with one on to end the fourth. The Yankees are 0 for 4 with runners in scoring position.
Update, 8:17: Garcia is on, one run and three hits allowed through his first five innings.
Update, 8:31: The Yankees are struggling in the RISP department vs. Dickey. The first two guys get on in the fifth and then the next three go down. Five complete, 1-1.
Update, 8:34: Daniel Murphy unties it, going down and getting a low pitch and sending it to the right-field seats to open the sixth.
Update, 8:46: Swisher just missed that Turner ground-rule double with a dive near the right-field line. So it’s second and third with two outs. Boone Logan is warming.
Update, 8:48: Thole, having an underwhelming season, grounds to first to end the threat.
Update, 9:00: Russell Martin is stranded at second after a one-out double in the sixth. Somehow I find it hard to blame the Yankees in this game with Dickey’s knuckleball floating well.
Update, 9:07: Good job again by Garcia, two runs, five hits through seven. I believe he’s around 95 pitches.
Update, 9:08: The Yankees can celebrate. Dickey is out of the game. Lefty Mike O’Connor is coming on.
Update, 9:11: Joba is warming up.
Update, 9:19: O’Connor was just as effective as Dickey, 1-2-3 seventh. Garcia is done, Joba is in.
Update, 9:27: Bottom of the eighth now, still 2-1. Jason Isringhausen is coming on in his usual role. If it gets to the bottom of the ninth this way, K-Rod has been invincible since blowing his first save of the season, although he usually makes it an adventure.
Update, 9:34: 1-2-3 for Izzy. K-Rod is warming for the ninth. David Robertson is on for the Yankees.
Update, 9:47: Bottom of the ninth, K-Rod will try to close it out.
Update, 9:56: 1-2-3, Mets win, 2-1.
Went to the Show in 03 interesting.
Go Freddy. Go Yanks. Beat the Mets.
And the Reyes tryout starts with a flyout. Hopefully Beltran has the same luck this weekend.
I hope the pitchers are smart enough to pitch around Beltran if they have to in a big spot.
BryanHoch Bryan Hoch
Just for fun, the 1st Yankees-Mets lineup: Jeter 6 Kelly 4 O’Neill 9 Fielder DH Martinez 3 Hayes 5 Whiten 7 Curtis 8 Girardi 2 Pettitte LHP
Thats a good lineup
Good inning.
I like when Jeter walks
They definitely have to be patient with Dickey and make sure he is throwing strikes
I dislike when that happens
It’s incredible how many double plays this team has hit into.
I’ve decided that Jeter needs to get on an extended roll, now. I’m not talking about going 2-5 today and then 1-5 tomorrow with a couple of dink singles. Its time for him to run off a stretch of 20-50, with some doubles, walks, and maybe a home run or two??
Seeing that his average and OPS after that first inning walk were .257 and .640, respectively, was enough to make me a bit queasy.
Martin knows all of these NL hitters so that’s a positive for these games against the NL teams
Mets #6 hitter is up there bunting
Cano you’re better than that
what would a yankee game be without an error?
Robbie how do you even make a throw that bad. wow
Can’t blame the glove on that one I guess.
Error #4 for Cano already.. Made 3 all of last year..
Oh Robby, don’t do this to me
Cano with more great defense. He really should get checked for ADD…
2011 – the year of the bunt
Dickey….will be tough to score on tonight..Swish could have a nice game tonight
Garcia should be successful tonight if he locates his off speed pitches to these AAA hitters. The key is really to make good pitchers to Reyes, Beltan and to a lesser extent Bay.
Cano with a Brett Favre play?
Over on RAB Mike chose Justin Turner as the player most likely to annoy the hell out of us. It took him one at bat to be proven right.
I love hearing that sound off of Arod’s bat
Is it too early to fire the fielding coach. We went from having one of the best defense last year to this.
Cano is making me twich
Cano has real issues
Cano didn’t swing at those pitches last year
Cano
Not a productive at bat there for Cano.. Would’ve been nice to get Arod to 3rd.
This inning is slipping away fast..
Is it too early to fire the fielding coach. We went from having one of the best defense last year to this.
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On one hand our outfield defense is awesome, on the other hand our infield defense is regressing. Can we quarter the fielding coach?
Cano is only hitting .280 in his last 140 games and is on pace for 100+ k’s this year.
Hey, we caught a break!
Only a matter of time till we get to Dickey
Jerkface,
Its time for Girardi to be a parent on not their friends. He started with batting Posada 9th. Why not just keep the infield after the game is over taking grounders and throwing to a bullseye at first. It worked in the movie Miracle (skating after the game after checking out chicks during). Time to win the gold.
Don’t swing.
That looked low
Nasty first pitch strike to Gardner
should be 3 and 0
someone has more passed balls than the Yankees??
They have to be patient
Gotta come fastball soon here to Brett
how is that a strike????
They have to be patient
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On the other hand they have to be ready to attack Dickey’s 80 mph fastball
what a BS at bat.
Sigh.
How is that a strike??? Gardner got screwed on 2 pitches…
It must be so nerve-wracking for a young kid to catch a knuckleballer with the bases loaded
Just glanced at the Cubs lineup. They have 5 guys batting over .300. Hope they can get to Lester tonight. Elf is batting .230 and some change. Thought he was the best second baseman to ever play the game? His name cemented with the best closer ever in Craig Hansen.
well that was melo dramatic inning..
Bad job by the offense.
I hope this isn’t the beginning of the traditional 4 or 5 game lull that comes after exploding for an unnecessary amount of runs against a terrible team.
Having the bases loaded hurt that situation, without a force on third its possible Gardner could have made that close at 1st
I hate pitchers like this. They make a mockery of the game. Throw the damn ball like an adult of get out
The Yankees get R.A. Dickey and the Red Sox get Doug Davis; which AAAA pitcher/complete retread will get pummeled first?
Captain Clutch,
It wasn’t but the ump got confused from this carnival side show pitcher
The Yankees get R.A. Dickey and the Red Sox get Doug Davis; which AAAA pitcher/complete retread will get pummeled first?
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The red sox are already winning, so uh I pick Doug Davis
yet that pitch wasn’t called a strike
Yes Jerkface but I wouldn’t say he’s been pummeled yet, the race continues!
Umpires hate Brett Gardner.
“I hate pitchers like this. They make a mockery of the game. Throw the damn ball like an adult of get out”
how is it making a mockery of the game?
The Sox scored 2 but after that they had second and third none out and couldn’t get another run in
how is it making a mockery of the game?
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Its called baseball not slowest ball ever.
Why am I listening to the SNY announcers on MLB Extra Innings? Is this a non YES game?
Why are people so disappointed that Dickey isn’t pitching to a 2.80 ERA like he did last year? He’s really not very good
Stacey,
The catcher has no idea where the ball is going. The ump has trouble following the ball. It is side show crap
isn’t the point to get the other guy out? who cares how you do it?
Kaptain couldn’t catch up with 86mph heater
I know the Yankees are a patient team, but you have to hope that they don’t get antsy at some point during this game. Dickey is throwing about two pitches in the zone per at bat. They just need to stay ready for a BLAZING 86 mph fastball like the one that just turned Derek to dust.
Why are people so disappointed that Dickey isn’t pitching to a 2.80 ERA like he did last year? He’s really not very good
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He made some legit changes that made his performance last year kind of seem repeatable. He was throwing his knuckleball for strikes, didn’t walk many guys.
Looks like Chief Freddy is going to have to keep throwing zeros
The Yankees rarely score the game after a big blowout. Add in that this guy is throwing junk and it’s an uphill battle for us tonight.
A knuckleball is a great pitch to be able to throw, but the bottom line is that you have no idea where the hell it is going to go. You can have a great season one year, and a miserable one the next. Tis the risk you take if you’re gonna throw a knuckler.
Tex!!!
We’ll take the cheapie.
probably why there are not many knuckleballers out there but if he gets outs and wins games thats the point….there are much worse things wrong with the game than a knuckleball pitcher in my opinion
Nice sat fastball 3-1
Like Francesa says, who has the best change to feast on RF usually wins at YS
The SNY announcer said that Tex’s HR is a fly ball in ANY other park. Has it been proven that Yankees Stadium has the shortest RF in the majors?
Dickey is a bum. In his head he thinks “I’m gonna throw a bunch of terrible knuckleballs and then fool everybody with my 85 mph fastball!” There, I just figured out his entire game plan. Now go destroy him Yankees.
Stacey,
Of course there are worse things, my only point is that its a gimmick pitch
It’s a good thing Teix hit one out, I figured one more shutout inning from Dickey and the jump squad at the GW Bridge would be on full alert.
Does anybody know if Jarrod Saltalamacchia has actually gotten a hit against another team besides the Yankees? I’m pretty sure he hasn’t.
Tex’s ball might be a HR in Fenway, but that’s probably the cheapest HR I’ve seen him hit. Mets fans will be whining about that for days
Laura – I Bleed Blue,
Shocker coming from Gary Cohen. Biggest cry baby ever. He is the only announcer who goes out of his way to knock the opposing team in town
Where was that pitch?
I thought off the bat that Mark got a lot more of that ball then he did.
Laura, my9 if you’re in the NY area
If the Mets have such a problem with our park they should build their own “band box”
I’ll take any knuckleballer who makes any hitter look silly if he gets ‘em out and wins games….if he’s inconsistent and can’t get outs or win games then he shouldn’t be pitching anyways
RS May 20th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Tex’s ball might be a HR in Fenway, but that’s probably the cheapest HR I’ve seen him hit. Mets fans will be whining about that for days
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They don’t move the fences out when the other team hits.
Garcia is getting squeezed
Any truth to the rumor that the Wilpons tried to buy a bleacher seat and couldn’t afford it?
How was the Chris Young a nice signing? He does what he does every year and gets hurt. If he didn’t the Mets couldn’t afford him anyway
Come on Garcia
Justin Turner is now 2-2. What the hell is going on
Russell needs to move his body in front of the ball.. this backhand stuff only works so often. Garcia not getting it done with 2 outs. Turner is a gnat!!
Goob job Garcia keep missing your spot
Turner is awful.
The Yankees have to lead the league in leads given back the inning after taking one
Yankees are famous for taking other teams minor leaguers and making them elite superstars overnight.
Captain Clutch,
He’s given up 1 run in 4 innings. How about getting on the offense who can’t hit the gimmick
Thank goodness I’m not watching SNY. Watched the game on there yesterday and they made Justin Turner sound like the second coming of Ted Williams. He’s having a nice stretch but lets not get carried away…
How can Turner be awful if he’s hitting .350+ and has RBIs in 6 straight games?
Turner is the Mets offense right now. He has driven in 11 of their last 16 runs.
Turner is the one guy who has been hot for the Mets. Pitch around him if you have to or start hitting your spots……
Tyler,
Thats all Gary Cohen. Its a shame because I really like Darling and Hernandez but whenever the Mets have a rally or something I have to mute the TV.
Cubs are putting guys on just can’t drive them in.
Talk to me at the end of he year about Turner. He is not a good hitter at all. He won’t even be up with the team at the end of the year
There’s only so much you can expect out of Freddy Garcia. He throws slop, and gets by on sheer guile.
He has done about as well as you can expect and he deserves credit.
On the bright side, Garcia looks awful. He’s not throwing strikes and probably would have 5 walks right now if he was facing the Red Sox. But because it’s the Mets his line score looks decent and he has a good shot to pull out a win
How can Turner be awful if he’s hitting .350+ and has RBIs in 6 straight games?
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Cervelli once hit .400 for a month
He just missed that
Triple-
I do like Darling. Hernandez is alright. I don’t know if I’d be able to watch him consistently. He’s kind of like O’Neil in my opinion. I love hearing their stories but they really don’t do a whole lot of research or put a lot of time into their jobs. I probably wouldn’t be able to take him every day but that’s just me. Agree though that Cohen brings down that broadcast.
Dickey has given up 21 runs in his last 6 games
I wonder if rain helps or hurts a knuckleball
“On the bright side, Garcia looks awful.”
Really. I guessed I missed that. I may have to rewind the DVR and see how bad he’s been.
I’d like to see the Yankees attempt some steals with a knuckleballer on the mound.
Turner is hot right now. I’ll give him credit for that. But I do not think he will keep this up. He’s really not a prospect.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Noesi replace Garcia in the rotation by the all star break
Tyler,
Especially what Cohen did when they made the playoffs a few years ago and forced himself on the radio to take innings away from Howie Rose another guy i like
I hope we don’t have to hear the usual we haven’t seen this guy before excuse a lot during these NL games
Martin is lazy to block the ball.
He should be benched by doing that.
“Really. I guessed I missed that. I may have to rewind the DVR and see how bad he’s been.
I mean, just by watching him throw the ball it looks like he’s missing his spots. The Mets are chasing pitches out of the zone and getting themselves out. I think Garcia had better stuff against the Red Sox, but the Sox are a vastly more disciplined and talented offensive team than the Mets right now.
The Cubs tied it up in Boston
Wow, I didn’t realize how cute David Wright is.
Captain-
Not sure of the timetable on Hughes, but you would have to think that it might be Hughes who takes Garcia’s spot.
Garcia has been very good though. 1 run in 4 innings tonight, has around a 3 ERA… that’s fantastic. He’s not been a problem at all. Actually been a surprise.
Doesn’t Swisher know the saying, “if it’s low, let it go”. He had no chance to hit that ball he just swung at
Didn’t Buckner throw out the first pitch tonight in Fenway?
So far it’s the usual we haven’t seen thig guy before. Dickey has been awful recently but of course they score 1 run on a homerun.
if Turner was a Yankee farmhand his AAA stats (he was drafted by them in 2005) would have many of you clamoring for him to be on the team and taking time away from Robbie Cano.
BAL vs WAS. That should be the ESPN game Sunday night.
Hollywood needs to hit the ball to LF like last night…
RS
Honestly, I kind of FF my way threw the first couple ofd innings.
I didn’t notice many hit balls that were squared up. Which to me– tells me he is on his game.
But maybe you are right.
I love that the Phillies are the Red Sox “rivalry” matchup
if Turner was a Yankee farmhand his AAA stats (he was drafted by them in 2005) would have many of you clamoring for him to be on the team and taking time away from Robbie Cano.
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Unlikely
The benefit of the call? Looked good to me
Garcia just painted the outside corner with his fastball 2X to Tejada, that doesn’t equate to a guy missing his spots all the time…
The Mets should trade Reyes yesterday
Sox up 3-2. That took long. Why is Doug Davis still pitching anyway?
RS May 20th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
I love that the Phillies are the Red Sox “rivalry” matchup
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Haven’t you heard that the rest of the teams have NO chance against these giants of baseball? Ugh.
Wow its official we should definitely sweep this team this weekend.
Garcia pitching well tonight.
And Crawford is still hitting .211.
Cubs just had a perfect relay to nail Gonzalez at the plate
Don’t get me wrong, I love what Freddy has done for us this year. I’m just glad he’s facing a poor hitting team on a night where his command probably isn’t as good as he’d like. Works out well for us.
But don’t worry, Jed “Look at my ear flaps” Lowrie just drove in Ortiz.
I know this is huge what if but what happens if Colon pitches like this all year? Do you resign for him and for how much?
Gardner better steal 2nd base
Run Brett run
He was probably out, but the Mets deserve that after the BS call on Werth yesterday that saved them the game
he was definitely safe, oh well…
Do you resign for him and for how much?
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At most 1 year and less than 10 mil. He is 38
definitely out i mean
Jeter can’t possibly bunt right?
Knuckleball pitcher and josh thole. Gotta steal
Pitch-out
Jerkface,
Yea I agree
Come on steal 2nd base
beat me to it
Huge sigh of relief from Brett there
Wow, close
Well it wasn’t easy but he got to 2nd
Gardner’s not making it look easy
That was to close
Thats an interesting stat, only 2 guys have attempted against dickey all year?
Can they score this?
Senator Granderson will come up big here
“Thats an interesting stat, only 2 guys have attempted against dickey all year’
Doesn’t seem right.
Brett should be at 3rd
Gardner didn’t get a good jump. It looked like his spike got caught in the dirt or something. Let’s go Granderson!!!
Doesn’t seem right.
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I guess his pickoff and slide step are that good
Come on Granderson!!
Unknown,
You can’t run on a ground ball in front of you. If Brett gets thrown out at 3rd we would be losing our minds.
“I guess his pickoff and slide step are that good”
In that case, good job Brett
This team never ever gets runners over with no one out. It’s pathetic…
On the weak throw by reyes he couldve took off, but was going back to 2nd.
I would love to see Gardner even attempt to steal 3rd base. He stands on base like a statue…
wow really Tex….
Can a rod save the day?
“On the weak throw by reyes he couldve took off, but was going back to 2nd”
With Tex and Alex coming up, I don’t think so.
This team is dreadful with guys on base…Just awful…
That is a short stop play
Pathetic. They should lose tonight
1-9 with RISP tonight.. Just can’t build on from game to game.
Dickey’s line is going to say one run in five innings, but anyone who watched this game knows it should be much, much different.
Unreal..I love how other teams play against the Yanks like its the world series..Reyes dogs it against everyone else..
Two brutal at bats by the heart of the order.
“That is a short stop play”
True, but so was the play that allowed Alex to get up in the first place.
“That is a short stop play”
Are you trying to say that Jeter wouldn’t have made that same play?
Reyes just wants to be traded. Anywhere.
seems like A-rod should have beat that out….maybe the hip is bothering him
The only thing keeping the Yankees in the game is the fact that Wright and Davis are out. No excuse not to sweep this series.
You knew that was going to happen
Pathetic..
“..I love how other teams play against the Yanks like its the world series..Reyes dogs it against everyone else”
That’s what happens when you are best. You should be used to it.
Are you trying to say that Jeter wouldn’t have made that same play?
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I will leave that up to the viewers at home.
“Unreal..I love how other teams play against the Yanks like its the world series..Reyes dogs it against everyone else..”
Do you watch Mets games? Because I’m pretty sure you’re here every night.
Only a matter of time. unfortunately.
Runner on 2nd base no one out = no runs
1st and 2nd base no one out = no runs
Leave men on base and see what happens right after… Just awful!
every team gets up to play the Yankees….it makes up for the Yankees having the highest payroll…everything balances out
It might be time to get someone up in the bullpen
c’mon Garcia
BS that was a strike
Freddy walking the tightrope all night. Can’t go much longer with him.
Reyes dogs it against everyone else..”
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Reyes does have that rep — and he also is criticized for being dumb on the bases at times…not my kind of player.
Garcia should have a short leash. He’s not commanding the ball well and it’s only a matter of time before the Mets hitters start to figure that out
Is it just me or does the Jason Bay signing by the Mets look like a bad deal?
Get the bullpen up
I really don’t think I can take another home loss. Hopefully garcia keeps it here and the bats get goin with risp.
It’s not just you, Laura.
Well deserved.
Suck
Girardi is going to wait too long with Garcia
JoelSherman1
#Yankees catchers behind plate for more Es, WPs and PBS combined (28) than any AL team #can’tblamePosadaforthat
Nibbling.
Any manager in baseball wouldn’t mind reyes .317 ba & .840 ops.even dogging it.
Too bad teams can’t get up to play the Red Sox like they do us
Break the game open here
this is once again on the offense.
i mean how good can you expect garcia to be?
Freddy & Javy are basically the same. They depend on smoke and mirrors. Give me power guys. I look forward to Bartolo pitching games and Garcia I only hope for the best.
Jason Bay- “That was a home run at Fenway. Sigh.”
That’s almost the same pitch Garcia threw to Youkilis. The Red Sox version of Jason Bay would have hit that out of the park
Gotta stop the home losing stareak against this bad team…no excuse not to.
The Red Sox are getting hot and will leave the yanks behind if the Off continues this way.
Fortunate the Sox started so poorly otherwise we would be 6-7 games out.
I am tired of hearing Kelvin Long when they got 2 hits.
I can’t believe that no one is warming up
The Sox have won 6 in a row — tonight will be 7.
Tex’s HR is a routine flyout in any other ballparks.
So who stole the Yankees offense? It’s inexcusable that they can’t hit this meatball.
jackamir
the list of pitchers that do it with “smoke and mirrors” is long and impressive.
Personally, I really appreciate a pitcher that does it on stuff and not just power.
Lucky that went into the stands
This Turner is really getting on my nerves
This guy is driving me nuts. Are you joking?
3 hits and 1 run off RA Dickey through what, 4?
Hard to root for this team.
Girardi should have somebody up.
Obviously, nobody is up.
Swisher is slow
swish shoulda had that
Terrible job by Swisher..
Swish is slower than my grandpa
Yanks should sweep the Mets.
Dickey stinks this year. 3 of the Met regulars are on the DL.
Countdown til Swish is gone. Great personality and I do like him, but I’m ready to see him go.
Nice jog for the ball, Nick. Don’t want to tire yourself out by actually running at full speed.
They will drop to below .500 soon, 3rd place in division.
Swisher is slower then a fat mailman.
Just another day at the ball park for Agon. 3 for 3
It’s 2-1 and you people are flipping out and complaining about every little thing…
Swish not doing the job in the field or at the plate…. a team spending 200 mill needs more production out of its corner outfielders.
Freddy has been really great so far. Who knows how the season will end, but so far so good.
Just another day for Boston another pitcher with health problems.
Dickerson has to start replacing Swish in RF for defense
It’s 2-1 against a team led by a complete bum of a pitcher with a lineup full of AAA non-prospects.
“Countdown til Swish is gone.”
I think a better countdown is when he starts raking again.
Garcia slopped his way through six strong innings again.
For this team to waste another one of his efforts would be flat out WRONG.
It would be less frustrating if it wasn’t so predictable. Every time they go off for 10 + runs against a terrible team and you think the offense is back, they lay a complete egg, usually 4-5 eggs in a row.
Lets see if they can’t shut me up.
Not a strike!!!!!!!!!!
Is it just me or does the Jason Bay signing by the Mets look like a bad deal?
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Bay should have stayed with the RS, but he went for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$. HRs are hard to hit at Citi field.
strike? really?
Yankees getting robbed defensively
RhapsodyInBlue,
Huh?
Martin!!!
Still looking for that ever elusive hit with RISP
I agree Tar.
leiter needs to remind swish of the low let it go theory
I like to see Robbie getting a little pisssed off.
Countdown until he starts raking again as well
Yankees getting robbed defensively
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Well this is the world series for the Mets
“Countdown til Swish is gone.”
I think a better countdown is when he starts raking again.
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Agreed!!
That was anasty pitch
This is embarrassing.
Way too many k’s agaisnt dickey. Geez.
what are they looking for exactly?
tex and posada just staring at pitches down the middle.
What was he looking for there?!
This team is unbelievably frustrating.
just going to have to wait until the bases are empty to get a solo homer to tie it up.
another runner to leave in scoring position
C’mon Swish!!
I don’t even have confidence against the Mets bullpen because it’s full of a bunch of no-name scrubs the Yankees have probably never faced before, and then of course KRod.
I am sure we are going to see this against all of these NL pitchers that they haven’t seen before. You know the usual….
if they cant win home games now, august and september on the road are going to be really hard to watch…
swisher locked in?
locked into what exactly?
unbelievable….
The thing is, this is a situation similar to the Yankees taking Colon out the other night. The Orioles were ecstatic to see anyone besides Colon out there, and the Yankees will be happy to see anyone besides this bum out there.
I’m usually a big optimist, but this is pathetic.
Truly pathetic.
So sick of Swisher. Is he going to go another 20 AB with RISP before he gets a hit?
SWISH right past the ball. Yep, if they drop this one, they will be 13-12 at home. Pretty brutal.
Way to go, Mr. 1-21.
Absolute garbage offense.
Bridge year.
Girardi has to start sitting Swish against righties. He is totally useless!!! Let Dickerson or Nunez play.
This team looks exactly as it did the last time they were home. Cano and Martin make hard contact and you think Dickey’s tiring and a rally might be coming, but then up comes Posada and Swish to strike out.
im also sick of them making no adjustments.
everyone with eyes can see swisher swinging for a homerun everytime he takes the bat off his shoulder, and continues whiffing…
How bout a manager or hitting coach steps in and fixes that?
Why is Garcia still in the game?
Swish is a decent player who can only hit a fastball. There is absolutely no reason to think that he is going to turn around his season and start hitting. Girardi should platoon him and Cashman better not pick up his option after this year. I am so tired of him already.
Bridge year
Embarrassing…….w/ this name lineup.
How long does CASHman wait to do something? Same ol same ol
it’s no bridge year.
that would mean bringing up the young guys, not letting the guys already here continue their run at futility 5 of 6 games, then putting a 10 spot up to keep themselves at the top of the runs per game numbers.
Yankees have to have the lowest avg with RISP in the league, right?
How can they be losing to a guy named Dickey?
Why is Garcia still in the game?
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because it is 2-1….
garcia isnt the problem here…
False hope is what this team gives you and a horrible home record to boot. Swish is wearing on me more than any other player right now. Skiddish defense and can’t hit RH’s. Plus a .220 avg.
Freddy is pitching a great game
The 2009 offense and this year’s pitching staff would have won 110 games probably
Cashman better not pick up his option after this year.
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I have bad news for you
Bridge year? Bridge to what, exactly?
If this continues maybe it will spark a change……getting swept by the sox did not do it.
I know some people think they will no doubt keep swish, but i am not convinced.
Swisher is lost in space. His head moves too much. He swings and misses way to often. His days in New York are quietly winding down.
The score is 2-1.
I don’t care how bad Dickey has been all year, he has pitched a helluva game tonight.
So has Garcia.
There is nothing pathetic (well maybe risp) about this game.
Step back away from the ledge.
Dickey!
gotta love a guy name Dickey who is a knuckleball pitcher in the major leagues….and he’s beating the Yankees tonight…for him it makes up for all the name calling he got when he was a kid…
but that’s beside the point….
c’mon Yankees, this is ridiculous…wasn’t the wisest thing for Soriano to say but he was right, its not the pitching its the hitting
brian heyman making an excuse for the bully offense. swish 1 for 21 with RISP and 2 outs…
posada watching a pitch right down the middle.
tex standard tourist. this is a game in and game out habit, this is the yankees.
the erupt once every week to 2 with a huge game and therefore the runs scored look better then they are. they score 3 runs or less often and this team just can’t hit with risp. try to hard!!! these are all vets or mostly vets that is a bad excuse……………….
Garcia did his job. Let’s hope Booney doesn’t give up 3 runs in the 8th.
c’mon Yankees, this is ridiculous…wasn’t the wisest thing for Soriano to say but he was right, its not the pitching its the hitting
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Maybe but Soriano/Joba and even Rivera are responsible for five or six blown games already this year….
So some of it is on them.
Especially Soriano and his 7 ERA>
I’m not ready to say that Swisher’s days here are numbered after 140 at bats this season.
He’s done a hell of a job since he’s been here.
Anyone who thinks that he’s going to be shown the door after 140 bad at bats this year is just wrong.
also garcia did pitch good tonight but he will never last and be this effective for thwhole season no chance. he is pitching on borrowed time. good hitters if they go deep into the count will rock him.
and who really thought the Cubs would challenge the Sox this weekend. Yankees need to take care of business with Wright, Davis out.
If the Boss were still around, heads would roll. He hated getting embarrassed by the lowly Mets.
This game is far from over.
Do the Yankees not realize that every great outing by Freddy Garcia is a precious occurrence and should be taken advantage of? Especially these home starts. These are the games you kick yourself about not winning late in the season
It’s amazing how many games this team has lost because of the offense. Everyone thought that the pitching would be awful and it’s been the total opposite. A lineup full of all stars and they get shut down almost every night. Just pathetic…
Just like the 2 games vs the Mets last year where Hiroshima shut us down…. Feast or famine offense, we need some .300 hitters, less power guys who are too streaky…..
The Sox will have a 7-game winning streak after tonight, and Lester, Buchholz, and Beckett have each pitched twice in those 7 games. How is that possible?
well as long as the bases are empty, there is still a chance…
Can’t watch this flailing wiffs anymore. Running out of outs!
Anyone who thinks that he’s going to be shown the door after 140 bad at bats this year is just wrong.
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Swisher could have a terrible year overall and the yankees will still pick up his option. There is no replacement coming in FA and it will only cost them 9 million to do so. They could then simply trade swisher to another team if they manage to find a replacement. But any replacement would have to be through trade since there isn’t anything in free agency
cubbies are fighting back against lestah
Jeter can’t get around on a 90 MPH fastball from Mike O’Connor.
Unfriggingbelievable.
No carryover whatsoever from this team from one game to another… Ugly 3-0 swing from Granderson. Pitiful!
Yankees futility in hitters counts is… unsustainable. It has to be.
Great decision by Girardi to turn him loose.
Just awesome.
3-0 and swinging for a homerun…That is all you need to know about the Yankees offense
Jack Curry said the other day that rookie starters or guys the Yanks haven’t faced before in the last 6 starts are 5-1 with a 1 something era. We should get used to the hat tipping against all of these NL teams.
The thing that bothers me about Swisher is that he used to be patient and take walks even when he wasn’t hitting, but now he’s swinging through ball 4 so often. Last year he became more aggressive and raised his batting average…this year it looks like that change in approach has come back to bite him.
“Somehow I find it hard to blame the Yankees in this game with Dickey’s knuckleball floating well.”
R E A L L Y ? ? ?
3-0 and swinging for a homerun…That is all you need to know about the Yankees offense
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Making an out doesn’t mean they are automatically swinging for a HR.
Joba is fun to watch again.
He’s working quickly, throwing on a great downward plane, and constantly pounding the zone with strikes.
One of the only bright spots on this team right now.
Swisher is terrible in the clutch, quite a difference from 2010.
To me the 8th inning is the inning they score or you can pretty much kiss the game goodbye
Girardi should have to tell Granderson to take 3-0.
He has been the one hitting well.
# Triple Short of a Cycle May 20th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Only a matter of time till we get to Dickey
The Yankees are an offensive disgrace.
You mean you dont want to see the offense get to jeter in the 9th with a chance to win?
Exactly, if Tex/Cano/Arod don’t get it done you can kiss the game goodbye. Swisher and Posada will just flail at KRod’s curveballs and changeups in the dirt
also good to see the cubbies start to catch up, then let the sox put up another big inning….
Gas
Granderson swinging for a home run might be the best thing we have at the moment.
Joba is so over-talented for this role its not even funny.
He could still very easily be at LEAST a number three starter on a championship level team.
if they cant hit isringhausen, then they should all be fired on the spot!
Vince McMahon style!
Anyday now Cashman will wake up and realize that Montero should be on this team. This team needs a shakeup or we can just sit around for another 2 months and hope that something clicks.
really lets stop talking about what the RS are doing…..
This is the final score.
LOL, what a joke.
Joba is so over-talented for this role its not even funny.
He could still very easily be at LEAST a number three starter on a championship level team.
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Except the fact his talent comes off the upper 90s fastball, and when he started, he was throwing 91-93 mph fastballs…
“He could still very easily be at LEAST a number three starter on a championship level team.”
He should certainly be given the chance.
really lets stop talking about what the RS are doing…..
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Why not, at least that game is interesting.
# joeman May 20th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Dickey….will be tough to score on tonight..Swish could have a nice game tonight
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I lost the vig
“Except the fact his talent comes off the upper 90s fastball, and when he started, he was throwing 91-93 mph fastballs…”
Only post injury, and he was throwing with less velo in the pen then too.
again i say, if they cannot hit isringhausen, they should just give it up.
Jason Isringhausen.
# ac1 May 20th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
really lets stop talking about what the RS are doing…..
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Why not, at least that game is interesting.
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this is a 2-1 game ….
Nice swing Tex
“Except the fact his talent comes off the upper 90s fastball, and when he started, he was throwing 91-93 mph fastballs…”
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That was in a season when he was coming off a mystery shoulder injury. His velocity as a reliever likely wouldn’t have been any more consistent, just like it wasn’t last year.
He looks completely healthy and rejuvenated now. If he keeps his focus from game to game, he’ll be the best reliever in baseball, or damn close to it, from this point on. His stuff + command combo is otherworldly.
Here is the 90 year old set up man
this is a 2-1 game ….
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and as usual, we get 20 men on base and score 1.
Does he throw a ball ever?
Can somebody lean into a pitch or something?
How many times today have the Yankees been foul-tipped on a check swing?
this game isn’t interesting….why because they are losing?
i still say, keep joba in the pen, let him keep his arm strength, and close whenever rivera hangs it up….
this game isn’t interesting….why because they are losing?
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Yeah.
They suck tonight.
You’ve enjoyed watching this?
Ball 4…This is embarrassing….
Great, let’s look at called strikes and swing away at balls
this game isn’t interesting….why because they are losing?
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no because its the same BS game after game.
men on, inability to score, strike outs..
the way the yankees have played the last two weeks has been interesting to you?
this whole inability to score runs is getting BEYOND ridiculous…i have no words to describe it anymore.
# G-C May 20th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
this game isn’t interesting….why because they are losing?
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Yeah.
They suck tonight.
You’ve enjoyed watching this?
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Yep
Any day now this team will hit garbage pitching
That was absolutely pitiful.
impressive 8th inning but the heart of the lineup
3-4 HITTERS they are spending 50 mill on coming through again
The Yankees are losing this game. No chance Swisher and Posada lay off KRod’s junk
Darn if only Jeter was playing for the Mets when Alex hit the ball up the middle earlier.
# ac1 May 20th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
this game isn’t interesting….why because they are losing?
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no because its the same BS game after game.
men on, inability to score, strike outs..
the way the yankees have played the last two weeks has been interesting to you?
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didn’t they just win the last 3 games in a row
“this whole inability to score runs is getting BEYOND ridiculous…i have no words to describe it anymore.”
I have one: Montero.
The collection of players on the Mets is a complete joke.
The Yankees should beat this team 9 times out of 10.
No excuses.
Really pathetic that this is what this team has come to. They think they can just flip on a switch in July and that everything will be okay, because that’s what they’ve gotten used to under Girardi and in the last couple years under Torre.
So what’s the Yankees approach there?
Take good pitches and swing at bad pitches??
And the worst part is we have to waste our two good set-up men in a game like this
didn’t they just win the last 3 games in a row
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one ‘good’ offensive game and two good pitching performances….
Before those three, they did lose 6.
And the point is, RISP FAIL!
Joba should and IMO will not ever be given a chance to start for the Yankees again. That would be a huge mistake. I’m with Cashman 100% on this one.
# Rich in NJ May 20th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
“this whole inability to score runs is getting BEYOND ridiculous…i have no words to describe it anymore.”
I have one: Montero.
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lot of hype for a player who hasn’t played a inning in a major league game
As usual, they score 13 runs to pad their RS total, but then go cold for a week.
This offense just isin’t very good because of its inconsistent and age at key positions. Need to call up Montero.
These players should really be embarrassed by this performance at home against an injury depleted bunch of scrubs…
Another great day at the office for the pathetic offense. But yesterday they scored 13 runs, does that count towards today? Going down 1,2,3 against Izzy is beyond pathetic.
Embarrassing but Joe will say how well they were pitched against and trot out the same guys tomorrow.
How about mixing up 3-4-5 to Cano Tex Arod or something.
Wait a minute…Is Robertson ahead of Joba now on the pitching ladder? When did this happen????? Girardi never told us!!!! HE DIDN’T HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE OR ANYTHING TO INFORM US! DOES IT SAY IT IN HIS BINDER??????
# ac1 May 20th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
didn’t they just win the last 3 games in a row
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one ‘good’ offensive game and two good pitching performances….
Before those three, they did lose 6.
And the point is, RISP FAIL!
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they live by the HR & when they don’t get them more often than not they lose
They are scoring 5+ runs at the same rate as the 09 yankees
i dont care if montero struggles.
he is the future and worth watching, compared to what we get 5 times out of 6 now.
The Yankees are averaging 6 runs scored in their last 3 games, but the offense was truly terrible in 2 of those 3 games
GIRARDI MUST ANSWER FOR TAMPERING WITH THE ORDER OF THINGS HE MUST BE BROUGHT FORTH TO EXPLAIN THIS
They are scoring 5+ runs at the same rate as the 09 yankees
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they also struggled in april and may, however they had the ability to come back late in games and had many walk offs.
you knew in the 9th they had a chance
does anyone feel that way this year?
Just drives me CRAZY when the Yankees, in tight games like this, waste outs on guys who have no real chance.
Lots of guys are struggling, but at least ARod, Tex, Swisher, etc… are capable major league players… Jeter and Posada are not.
The Yankees gave away an out in the 7th by letting Captain Crap hit, and they’ll give away another in the ninth when they refuse to pinch hit for Pusada.
Jerkface May 20th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
They are scoring 5+ runs at the same rate as the 09 yankees
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13-1-1 = 15 = 5 runs a game
And Dickey’s knuckler probably screwed up the swing of these guys for the rest of the series so they have a ready made excuse.
Before we clamor for a stud starter, how about fixing the dormant offense? Just pathetic. And don’t blame just the older players, how about the guys in their ‘prime’ who are supposed to carry this offense doing nothing and waiting for Alex to hit a 3-R HR?
ac1…agree, give the kid a shot
Girardi is losing control of the team. Posada was obviously wrong in pulling his hall of fame hissy fit, but look, he hasn’t batted 9th yet has he?
they also struggled in april and may, however they had the ability to come back late in games and had many walk offs.
you knew in the 9th they had a chance
does anyone feel that way this year?
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The 09 offense was special, this unit has yet to show a similar quality, but its early
They are scoring 5+ runs at the same rate as the 09 yankees
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13-1-1 = 15 = 5 runs a game
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You misunderstand, I meant the actual runs in a single game of being 5+. 09 team scored 5+ runs 57% of the time, 2011 is same rate.
They are what they are. Consistently inconsistent as the capt would say. Still reminds me of the 08 team.
can’t even worry about a trading for a starter right now.
the pitching is fine
gotta do something about the offense.
this all really went south when Chavez got hurt.
Coincidence?
“lot of hype for a player who hasn’t played a inning in a major league game”
Who’s your cost-free suggestion?
# Jerkface May 20th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
They are scoring 5+ runs at the same rate as the 09 yankees
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13-1-1 = 15 = 5 runs a game
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You misunderstand, I meant the actual runs in a single game of being 5+. 09 team scored 5+ runs 57% of the time, 2011 is same rate.
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sorry
# Rich in NJ May 20th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
“lot of hype for a player who hasn’t played a inning in a major league game”
Who’s your cost-free suggestion?
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they will get this straighten out
Luck…
doubla06 May 20th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Girardi is losing control of the team. Posada was obviously wrong in pulling his hall of fame hissy fit, but look, he hasn?t batted 9th yet has he?
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Nope… He has not.
Throw a tantrum, not only do you NOT have to answer for it, the Yankees organization actually CAVES to your tantrum.
I said it then, I’ll repeat it now… You COULD NOT SEND a worse message. Not possible!
Yankee offense was just like this last year, way too inconsistent, especially vs. unfamiliar pitching…we scored 13 last night, 1 tonight, that’s how you lead the league in runs scored, yet still have an offense not really that good….the problem is Jeter, AROD, Swisher, and Posada…they can be beat too easily by pitchers who follow the scouting report well like Texas did in the ALCS……not sure how to fix this, I guess a RF and a DH who hit for a high average would be a start…Montero for DH, Dickerson getting a longer look in RF?????
“they will get this straighten out”
Adding a bat that has his upside potential could accelerate that, and considering that Cervelli isn’t a ML catcher or hitter, and that Posada can’t hit RHP, I see no reason to wait.
These guys look and are playing tired. Late flights, early morning arrivals are catching up with them.
Tomorrow will be another story.
So who freaks out more after they save a game Valverde or K-Rod
The Sox will finally pass the yanks after a 2-10 start
They had a special team in 09, thats why they won the title. Their comeback ability saved them so many times during the playoffs in swing games.
This is more like 08 than 09, even without all the freak injuries of 08. Is starting Molina/Moller that much different from starting this version of Posada? That version of Jeter/ARod will probably blow the doors off this year’s version. Forget Abreu, Melky from 08 would probably outperform this version of Swisher.
Sorry LHP
Nunez in RF.
cs in la May 20th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
These guys look and are playing tired. Late flights, early morning arrivals are catching up with them.
Tomorrow will be another story.
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Ya, that trip from Baltimore to NYC is a REAL pain in the ace!
Martin’s defense keeps getting worse and worse as the season goes on
Gee I’m real worried about the Sox passing us on May 20th.
If they trade MOntero for pitching when the offense is so bad, it will be telling of our future vision.
solid inning from Robertson….he’s really great when he doesn’t walk ppl. Another day of great pitching wasted by not being able to score runs. Awesome
“If they trade MOntero for pitching when the offense is so bad, it will be telling of our future vision.”
Current as well.
# UnKnown May 20th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
So who freaks out more after they save a game Valverde or K-Rod
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will see a good show tonight if he gets it done
TheStraw May 20th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Gee I’m real worried about the Sox passing us on May 20th.
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this is just matter of time.
Yankees don’t care now.
When this team scores 5 runs, the pitching can’t hold on. Like Colon’s start against the Rangers when they fell behind 5-0, came back to tie it, and then the bullpen gave it up. Or scoring 5 runs against the Royals after they already jumped out to an 8-0 lead. Or Burnett’s implosion against the Rays.
I’d like to see some good, clean 5-2, 6-3 games. That’s what we got early in the season when the team was playing at a .600 clip.
# TheStraw May 20th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Gee I’m real worried about the Sox passing us on May 20th.
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and after the start they had..unreal
This is more like 08 than 09
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The 08 offense scored 5+ runs only 47% of the time, and 4 runs only 9% of the time compared to 16% and 14% of the 09/11 offense. They scored 2 runs or less 30% of the time in 08. Twice as often as the 11 team. This offense is probably more like 2010. Which is a good offense but not a supernaturally good offense like 2009 or 2007.
At least the Rays are losing
It’s time to find out what Montero can do. If they wait until late June or the all star break to make changes it could be too late. The starting rotation isn’t going to keep pitching as well as they have been and then they are really going to be introuble. You can’t keep wasting so many great pitching preformances by the starting rotation.
Has anyone noticed how this year in interleague the Red Sox play the four NL Central teams that are under .500, but the Yankees have to play the two teams at the top of the division?
I hate first pitch swinging.
i guess they want to make this quick
K-Rod has been even better than MO this season and he doesn’t give up HRs.
So basically, they need a Luis Castillo moment to win this game.
Here comes a wasted at-bat.
Pussada to the plate.
Either lose the game or win it right here, so we can at least contribute to the Mets having to vest an embarrassing option on KRod
c’mon Yankees, this is ridiculous…wasn’t the wisest thing for Soriano to say but he was right, its not the pitching its the hitting
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Maybe but Soriano/Joba and even Rivera are responsible for five or six blown games already this year….
So some of it is on them.
Especially Soriano and his 7 ERA>
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sorry, had to leave for awhile…
completely agree with you, this bullpen has not lived up to its expectations and Soriano has no room to talk, not a fan of his at all just saying that the pitching has been better than the hitting lately…hope they both come together sooner than later
Swinging at the 1st pitch in the 9th inning really makes sense. Martin’s play is getting worse as the season goes on.
hip hip…..
Not a strike.
“The 08 offense scored 5+ runs only 47% of the time, and 4 runs only 9% of the time compared to 16% and 14% of the 09/11 offense. They scored 2 runs or less 30% of the time in 08. Twice as often as the 11 team. This offense is probably more like 2010. Which is a good offense but not a supernaturally good offense like 2009 or 2007.”
The 2010 offense was different from August on, like the rest of the team. This looks like a continuation from August on last year.
People like to point to how Girardi ‘punted’ games down the stretch, but a lot of our losses came because of our offensive ineptitude.
If the yankees lose it means the offense scored less than the opponent, but sometimes that falls on the pitching and defense. You have to win games where you score 4 runs or 3 runs sometimes.
posada is struggling enough without getting calls like those two
Jorge
How is that pitch a strike? The tip of the bat would barely reach it if you swung
Good job ump. Dickey got those calls all night and Garcia didn’t….
Pussada griping about a called strike it laughable.
Like it matter when he’s at the plate
Girardi after the game, “Dickey’s knuckle ball kept us off balance.”
That one was….
AL teams win 65% of the time scoring 5 runs. Yankees at 44% this year.
What an embarrassment.
YankeesNmore: It is when you get in a t 2:20 a.m., two night after they got in a 3:30 and then two nights before the got in a 5 am.
Swisher Sweet
this ump wants to go home
TheStraw May 20th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Not a strike.
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As if it matters when Pussada has a bat in her hands.
The 2010 offense was different from August on, like the rest of the team. This looks like a continuation from August on last year.
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Ok but even still they are better than the 08 offense. People don’t understand the 08 offense was atrocious.
Too bad there is no one to pinch hit for Swish
Now that Martin has turned back into 09/10 Martin, the bottom of the lineup is simply putrid.
Of course the top of it isin’t much better. Either way, they have major lineup issues
nunez can pinch hit, and maybe even get a hit
Shouldn’t KRod be in jail or something?
Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? …..replaced by a bunch of stiffs…
Now that Martin has turned back into 09/10 Martin, the bottom of the lineup is simply putrid.
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If only we had a guy who could give Martin much needed rest…
Krod lost some weight from last year
“As if it matters when Pussada has a bat in her hands.”
LOL
One of Muts friends worry about Yanks this week, I told him no need to worry at all.
LOL, the joke $200M+ team.
I’m sick of Swisher.
I could have called that Swisher AB yesterday.
Its ok, take 2 out of 3
Maybe we can watch Swish swing at the dirt 100 more times this year
Typical Swisher at bat, swinging like a crazy man.
losing to the worst team in baseball without their 2 best players
don’t know of anything more embarrassing
Pathetic…as they are right now they are not good enuf to be a playoff team.
well another game and nothing will change.
swisher 3 Ks.
lets keep watching and hoping for consistent change.
Does K-Rod own the Yankees? It seems like they never blow his saves. Except for that Luis Castillo dropped ball
“Krod lost some weight from last year”
contract year
similar to Soriano last year
Through 43 games, this has been the most joyless/least fun to watch team I can remember.
I wish someone would drill a line drive to KRod’s back when he follows through with his back to homeplate
if they thought Montero was that good he would have made the team out of ST
Jerkface May 20th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Its ok, take 2 out of 3
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really? it’s safe to say they already lost the series, if not being swept.
Swisher needs to be shopped.
I pray they don’t pick up Hollywood’s option….I’d rather see Nunez in RF…
“if they thought Montero was that good he would have made the team out of ST”
So they’re infallible?
Swisher is a bum. Has he ever looked worse at the plate?
Oh look Jon Lester gave up 5 runs! But the Red Sox have scored 10, like they’re supposed to in such situations, against a pitcher of The Great Doug Davis’s caliber.
Good evening ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Introducing your third place New York Yankees.
really? it’s safe to say they already lost the series, if not being swept.
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Really? Safe to say? Perhaps you’d like to cheer for a different team. Though given your derisive nickname, that may already be true.
Capuano stinks and is a lefty, who we usually pound
Pelfrey is inconsistent and walks a lot of guys
Just ran into a bad matchup tonight. The offense has major issues but they will win 2\3
Shopped? Where?
geez, Swish is not the only problem, the entire lineup sucks. everyone single one of them.
Swisher needs to be benched ……though the 200 mill roster has noone good enough.
doubla06 May 20th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Through 43 games, this has been the most joyless/least fun to watch team I can remember.
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Amen, brotha.
There is no reason for Swish to be an everyday player anymore. Pitchers know to just throw him off speed crap and he will swing at the dirt every time. Let Dickerson and Nunez platoon with him.
really? it’s safe to say they already lost the series, if not being swept.
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Really? Safe to say? Perhaps you’d like to cheer for a different team. Though given your derisive nickname, that may already be true.
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face the reality.
thinking they are better at judging players than you or I
We wouldn’t get a bag of balls for Hollywood..
The Mets came in here praying for just 1 out of 3 and the Yankees gift-wrap it for them with their ineptitude.
Girardi should play Dickerson tomorrow and bat Posada eighth.
This team is going nowhere. Go ahead and rationalize. Embarrassing.
The ump was equally blind tonite.
The joylessness starts with Genius Joe.
thinking they are better at judging players than you or I
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Then how come not all of their moves ever work out?
Yesterday the Yankees were going to make the playoffs, but today they’re at best third place material.
Wha hoppened?
Nothing, just fans still thinking this is August.
posada should bat in Tampa.
Agree, Jerkface. Not going to fret too much if they take the next two. And i don’t know why so many are worried about the standings with over two thirds of the season left. By the way, the Sox have exactly two starting pitchers right now and they just signed Millwood! They will start losing some games very soon.
Everyone is guilty.
Even Granderson has cooled off.
BUT…Swish is lost. He’s completely pulling off. Can’t hit that way. Not keeping his shoulder in and trying to drive the ball.
YankFanCA
Exactly…..this team is a joke….but nothing will change
“Nothing, just fans still thinking this is August.”
At the rate this team is going, they’ll be lucky to be on the fringe of WC contention in August.
Agree, Jerkface. Not going to fret too much if they take the next two. And i don’t know why so many are worried about the standings with over two thirds of the season left. By the way, the Sox have exactly two starting pitchers right now and they just signed Millwood! They will start losing some games very soon.
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Long winning streaks are awesome, but they happen only a few times a year. Most of your winning needs to be done piecemeal over a large sample of games. Inside of those samples will be losses. When you look back on it, the Yankees might run off a .600 or .700 winning percentage over 30 games, but fans will be dying with every loss. Just the way it goes.
Yankees have a .750 winning percentage in their last 4. They could make it .800 with a win tomorrow and .833 with another one on sunday.
Yankees need a dose of greenies Hgh layered with some Roids.
1 for 10 with risp. All Posada’s fault. Yeah, right.
You all should play the lottery because you kniw what is going to happen in the future…
Yank 97,
A bad matchup with a guy who has given up 21 runs in his last 5 games. They will prob win tomorrow but Pelfrey will prob shut them down as well
At the rate this team is going, they’ll be lucky to be on the fringe of WC contention in August
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The rate of losing 1 game?
There is no reason to think that Jeter, Swish or Posada are going to hit any better than they are right now. Right now they are getting close to nothing from RF, DH and very little from SS and Martin has really fallen off a cliff. Swish should be benched, Martin has to get more days off or he is totally going to fall apart and they have to get Montero up here. Or they could do nothing and just continue to get shut down every night by garbage pitchers.
Cashman has to shake thing up with a trade, perhaps the Dodgers for an outfielder.
Or they could do nothing and just continue to get shut down every night by garbage pitchers.
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They torched the garbage last night and beat up Price and Lester.
I can’t figure out where this teams heart is, maybe it left with Andy.
This team is pathetic. Truly pathetic.
I would say ’08 was less fun to watch because you had Hughes and Kennedy giving up 6 runs each turn through the rotation. At least this team is competitive when they lose.
1 run on a homerun. You know the usual day at the office for this all star lineup.
Big mkt for garbage Pitchers to face the Yankees. Have Garbage will pitch.
The Yankees only torch garbage pitchers when they’ve faced them multiple times. That’s why they beat up on the Orioles.
And they’ve also won all but four series: the two against the Sox and the Royals and Tigers series.
I would say ’08 was less fun to watch because you had Hughes and Kennedy giving up 6 runs each turn through the rotation. At least this team is competitive when they lose.
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The 08 team was a nightmare, just a complete mess, and they still won 89 games. This team is better and is in better position to be helped by trade. Can’t think about trades now though, its still too early. Gotta get to late june before you consider the market , so the yankees will need to do something internally if they want a spark.
“1 run on a homerun.”
That would have been an out in any other ballpark…
“At the rate this team is going, they’ll be lucky to be on the fringe of WC contention in August.”
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And that’s just my point, “At the rate this team is going”, can change in less than a week in a baseball season.
Next month they could be 15 games over .500 leading the East by 6 games.
That is a more likely scenario, judging the veteran leadership and talent they have on this team, than yours.
Sadly, the only way roster changes will get made on this is when it totally hits rock bottom….like under .500, or 4 th place…
Hey Cashman do something for the Fanbase.
1 run on a homerun. You know the usual day at the office for this all star lineup.
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So usual its the first time they scored 1 run in a game.
They torched the garbage last night and beat up Price and Lester.
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Yeah but more often than not they get shut down. It’s ridiculous how inconsistent they are.
The Yankees can longer win at home. pls stay on the road.
Girardi – calm and oh well. It was the knuckleball. This is the kind of post-game that George would can you for.
Maybe Swisher should try hitting just righthanded.
Yeah but more often than not they get shut down. It’s ridiculous how inconsistent they are.
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More often than not they score 4+ runs in a game.
Yeah, I believe the closest the ’08 team got to first place was when they were 3 games out in late July, right when they traded for Nady and Marte. It was all downhill from there. At least this team has consistently been at or close to first place.
Girardi talks Garbage.
Girardi just basically said A-Rod isn’t as quick to the ball in the field as he used to be.
Finally! Honesty!!
Jerkface May 20th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Agree, Jerkface. Not going to fret too much if they take the next two. And i don’t know why so many are worried about the standings with over two thirds of the season left. By the way, the Sox have exactly two starting pitchers right now and they just signed Millwood! They will start losing some games very soon.
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Long winning streaks are awesome, but they happen only a few times a year. Most of your winning needs to be done piecemeal over a large sample of games. Inside of those samples will be losses. When you look back on it, the Yankees might run off a .600 or .700 winning percentage over 30 games, but fans will be dying with every loss. Just the way it goes.
Yankees have a .750 winning percentage in their last 4. They could make it .800 with a win tomorrow and .833 with another one on sunday.
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it doesn’t make any sense that you mention their winning percentage for last 4 games amd totally ignore they have been playing .500 ball for a long time, none. zero.
If they win tomorrow, their winning percentage will be 100% for 1 game.
Yes, I got it. this makes a lot of sense.
The Old saying translated to baseball Compose a roster, Garbage in garbage out.
Can’t wait until we play in NL ballparks and we can replace Posada’s .180 bat with Sabathia’s .260 bat, lol
At least this team has consistently been at or close to first place.
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Toronto and the Rays lost today, the Yankees have been in far worse position even in 09. The Yankees hallmark is tearing it up in the heat of June and July and running rampant in August and September.
They were 3 games out in 09 at this time. 7.5 games out in 08. 10 games out (and under .500 in 07!)
How can people not trust the Yankees, who will do everything in their power to win and have almost always come back (bar 1 year where excessive injuries stalled them and they almost came back)?
it doesn’t make any sense that you mention their winning percentage for last 4 games amd totally ignore they have been playing .500 ball for a long time, none. zero.
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The yankees are above .500, so they aren’t playing .500 ball.
Nice job by the offense tonight
They have no confidence and no sense of history…
two straight losses at home to KC followed by three to boston and now one to the Mets.
“Girardi just basically said A-Rod isn’t as quick to the ball in the field as he used to be”
He was talking about his foot speed.
Gee, what team in MLB is more than 10 games over .500 right now? Oh, thats right, one. The Cleveland Indians.
bet Dialed In tomorrow, he gets pace he will win
I think people are just frustrated (including me) because we don’t know how long the pitching is going to be this good and it seems like such a shame to be wasting these types of performances because the offense can’t do their job.
I also don’t like this feeling where I have little confidence in this team’s comeback ability. It just makes games where they’re losing even less enjoyable to watch.
# West Coast Yankee Fan May 20th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Girardi just basically said A-Rod isn’t as quick to the ball in the field as he used to be.
Finally! Honesty!!
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he was lost speed for sure …play by Reyes up the middle wasn’t as close as it should have been
because we don’t know how long the pitching is going to be this good and it seems like such a shame to be wasting these types of performances because the offense can’t do their job.
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To be fair to the offense, they have a .400 winning percentage when scoring 5 runs, which means the pitching has wasted some good offensive performances as well. I think the pitching is legit, but we will still see some spot starts by guys in AAA at times this year.
How many games do you think Garcia can pitch giving up only 2 runs? You have to win those games, especially against the Mets, with a bunch of AAA players in the line-up.
Not many walk-offs and pies this year….
“To be fair to the offense, they have a .400 winning percentage when scoring 5 runs”
It just shows how out of sync this team is. I think we’re 1st in the AL in runs scored, and 5th in ERA. That should amount to better than a 3 games over .500 record. But we just can’t seem to pitch and hit well in the same games (except against the O’s).
RS May 20th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
I would say ’08 was less fun to watch because you had Hughes and Kennedy giving up 6 runs each turn through the rotation. At least this team is competitive when they lose.
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Hughes wasn’t given a chance to come back that year after is injury because Kennedy was given a second chance and ruined it for Hughes. Who at the time was getting ready to come back up.
After getting 4 hits tonight, it’s hat tipping time…
YankeesInk Granderson is giving credit to Dickey. “Nothing really you could have done differently in those at-bats.”
YankeesInk Swisher: Tonight’s a different matchup. You’re talking about a knuclkeballer.
Not many walk-offs and pies this year….
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The yankees just started walking off around this time last year, collected a lot over the summer when the team usually gets hot…
You’re not in Baltimore anymore Dorothy.
So nonchalant…pretty soon the Yankees will be tipping their cap to the Red Sox and Rays for zooming past them in the standings
Rich in NJ May 20th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
“Girardi just basically said A-Rod isn’t as quick to the ball in the field as he used to be”
He was talking about his foot speed.
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Uh, yes. We know.
So nonchalant…pretty soon the Yankees will be tipping their cap to the Red Sox and Rays for zooming past them in the standings
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The rays lost today. Oh no, their season is over
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, there is now much more parity in the league than even a few years ago. The so called “lousy teams” are much better and improved than they have been in a number of years, thanks to revenue sharing and many draft picks. This coincides with the traditional powerhouses such as the Yanks, Sox and Angels being somewhat in transition. We will not see teams like the 1998 Yanks anytime soon. But this team is still plenty good enough to make the playoffs. The moves they make later in the season will determine just how far they will go.
You see Rich – that’s what “in the field” means.
The Red Sox are going so well…when their offense can only scrape together 1 run, their pitchers put up zeros, when Lester gives up 5 runs or Matsuzaka lays down for the Orioles, their bats come mashing. The Yankees are running in the opposite direction. When the offense scores 1 run, the pitching gives up 2. When they manage to score 5, Burnett gives up 6, etc. etc.
# DocTodd May 20th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Not many walk-offs and pies this year….
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not many last yr either
Girardi’s answer to the changing the lineup question bothered me. He said, look what happened the last time that I changed it, the uproar that it caused. That was weak, it is almost ASIC he has no solutions. He probably should be replaced.
Girardi’s answer to the changing the lineup question bothered me. He said, look what happened the last time that I changed it, the uproar that it caused. That was weak, it is almost as if he has no solutions. He probably should be replaced.
I should have left the Rays out of it, but it does look bad that they were 6 games behind us less than a month ago and now they’re in front by a game. The Yankees have dropped a lot of ground the last couple of weeks.
Sorry, I double clutched there.
I really hate FOX night games. Just like after last Friday’s loss to the Red Sox, I want the quickest turnaround possible. Thank god Sunday is a 1 pm start
I should have left the Rays out of it, but it does look bad that they were 6 games behind us less than a month ago and now they’re in front by a game. The Yankees have dropped a lot of ground the last couple of weeks.
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The timing of slumps is everything. IF you slump then start winning then its like you found some magic and everything is cured (regardless of how you end up at years end), if you play well then slump well… everythings over and the team stinks. Good thing its just may.
It’s sad that Girardi’s scared to change the lineup because I got really excited when I first saw that Swisher and Posada got bumped down last week. It was the most visible thing that showed me the team might be just as frustrated as the fans are.
“The timing of slumps is everything”
So true. You’ve just got to look at the big picture and think, 6 weeks into the season we’re a .5 game behind the Sox, tied in the loss column. The way it all transpired stinks, but the end result isn’t so bad.
I’m just waiting for this team to go on a hot streak. Even the Sox have now gone on a long winning streak…I don’t think the Yankees have even strung together 4 in a row at any point. At some point they’ve got to reel off a bunch of wins, especially with how strong the rotation has been.
Its very difficult to win games when you score 1 run. This team has given up 4 runs in the last 33 innings over the past 3 games. While winning 2 of 3 is fine, its a stretch that should have been swept. Some won’t admit it, but posada and swisher are killing this team. Having 2 guys batting roughly 200 between them back to back in the lineup behind the meat of the order is as counterproductive as it gets. The uproar over moving posada to 9th is another example of yankee fans with an inability to let go of the past and look to the future will hamper this team.
Really poor job going 9 up 9 down the last three innings. Very unacceptable.
Sorry – meant 5 runs.
SI_JonHeyman #nats surely enjoy shellacking of rival orioles. 1 national player sarcastically referred to balt as “buckball” the other day
Again, does anyone think the Sox will keep winning with Lackey and Dice-k on the DL? Wakefield is worse than Garcia and if they put Millwood in there they will lose some games. Even Beckett may fall off a bit as it seems like he is now fighting some nagging injuries.
It’s a long season…
Hard to buy the knuckball argument when it comes to the bad offense. The Yankee lineup also made the Mets relievers look awesome. Isringhausen with his smoking 89-91 fastball made quick work of the bot 8th. That shouldn’t happen.
Our starting catcher is beginning to look weary. That lazy backhanded attempt by Martin to stop a pitch in the dirt … he’s getting tired.
It’s time for Cashman to be proactive. Promote Montero. Let him get some games behind the plate. And let him take away more at-bats from Posada at DH. Shake things up.
Yankees didn’t even compensate us fans for the world ending tomorrow by getting a win. Our last memory of our beloved team is getting shut down by RA Dickey and 40 yr old Jason Isrenhaugsin mowing throw the middle of our lineup.
Look – all of us like to pretend we are GMs’ on this borad, or else, let’s face it, we wouldn’t hole up in our parents’ basement before during and every game to show everyone how smart we are. But by game 40+, doesn’t everyone here GET it? We are not watching a SLUMPING offense – we are actually watching a BAD offense. The kind of offense that Boston can & will pullaway form, and is already starting to do so. Give it up and stop looking for the consistent magic of ’09 or the bludgeoning lineups of 02-07. This is it, absent some major moves. Our own team, the NY Yankees, is now one of those teams that always made us chuckle – one too many past-there prime guys mixed together with 3 or 4 LEGITIMATE .230-.250 hitters. The recipe doesn’t work folks. Let it go before you get an ulcer. Go back to watching Star Trek on WPIX instead of trading fantasies on this site about getting to third base with your friend’s sister. There is nothing Girardi can do except play the hand he’s been dealt by Cash. There are no magic solutions to the batting order. I am not a self hating Yankee fan – in fact, I think our next dynasty will start in 2014. But this year’s team as it is currently constitued is a 90-72 team at BEST. We’ve already given away 6 games we should have won, so now we’ll even be lucky to get to 90 with this lineup, defense, assortment of passed balls, throwing errors . No one could have predicted this brutal, continuing nightmare of RISP and LOB. This is it folks! Welcome to the world of 90-72 teams that fight for their playoff lives until Sept 30.
6 games that’s what I get too that they should’ve won. They the first game against the O’s this year that they should’ve lost. So lets say 5 games they let get away.
The most disturbing thing off all is how this team just plays dead in the late innings. They just drift away silently into the night offensively.
The enter key is your friend Hassey. Use it and use it good.
You look “dead” when you don’t score. How alive did the team look when they won 3 in a row?
“Again, does anyone think the Sox will keep winning with Lackey and Dice-k on the DL?”
The real question is, can they keep winning when those two come OFF the DL?
It’s worth nothing that Lester, Beckett, and Buchholz have started 6 of the 7 games in this Red Sox current win streak. And the one game started by Matsuzaka is the one where they had to come back from a 6-0 deficit. So they haven’t exactly been tested by those two injuries yet. I actually think Wakefield and Aceves will do okay (relative to most teams’ 4-5 starters) but the interesting thing for me is how well the Sox bullpen holds up without having Ace available to throw 2 or 3 scoreless innings here and there.
And btw, we’re really missing a reliever like that. If this was 2009, Ace would have pitched those last two innings tonight and let Joba and Robertson rest for a possible save situation tomorrow. Seems like we’re riding those guys hard in wins AND losses.
The yankees will win the Next two, based on the law of Averages.
Aceves will be injured some time in the near future. Unless you think a bad back will miraculously heal.
Jeter, Swisher, & Posada are just killing this team.
At least Swisher & Posada have been dropped in the line-up to 8th & 9th, the next step is to bench them or cut them outright.
However, Jeter continues to leadoff or hit second. WHY? He is next to last among the regulars (behind just Posada) in OBP. His O.B.P. is 74 points under his career avg.
Its not just a small sample anymore, its been a full 2 months now that the guy can barely get the ball out of the infield. This following his worst season ever. At what point does he get dropped in the order? He is killing the club in the lead-off spot.
I could care less about his quest to 3,000 hits, I want to see the team win. They will not win consistently without a better lead-off batter to set the table for the heart of the order. Day after day its the same old crap.
I was surprised that Girardi used Robertson and Joba tonight. I could see using one of them in the 7th inning because the middle of the order was up but you would think that Ayala could get the AAA guys out at the bottom of the order. They can’t kept riding those guys so hard or their arms are going to fall off.
And btw, we’re really missing a reliever like that. If this was 2009, Ace would have pitched those last two innings tonight and let Joba and Robertson rest for a possible save situation tomorrow. Seems like we’re riding those guys hard in wins AND losses.
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Soriano, whether you want to say predictably or not, has become a bullpen disaster as his presence completely destroyed the bullpen ecosystem that Girardi had cultivated the past 2 years where non-established guys got chances to work into roles. By acquiring Soriano it turned the bullpen into a rigid hierarchy and then his subsequent sucking/not pitching has left the bullpen in bad shape. Feliciano bailing as well.
They need to infuse another talent into the bullpen, someone that can be worked into a dependable role. You can’t have D-rob and Joba cover 90% of the bullpen innings.
Are you talking about the same Jeter who tripled last night?
The bullpen right now is
Rivera
Chamberlain
Robertson
Logan
Ayala
Noesi
Sanit
the BP right now has 3 guys that aren’t bullpen arms down the stretch.
I’d like to see Noesi get a shot at a consistent role in the pen. I don’t think he’s just here to be a mop-up reliever…it would be terribly foolish to waste his arm on 3-4 innings every 10 days. The Yankees should give him an inning or two when they’re maybe up by 4 runs or down by a run, and see how he handles it.
Look – all of us like to pretend we are GMs’ on this borad
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I like to pretend that I’m the assistant to the traveling secretary.
Are you talking about the same Jeter who tripled last night?
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Lets not use 1 game or 1 PA as a counter-example. This team still hasn’t had their struggling players find consistency (outside of Gardner)
Has there ever been a successful FA reliever signing (for 3 or more years)? For non-closers especially?
I’d like to see Noesi get a shot at a consistent role in the pen.
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I think he should be sent out and kept ready to work as the first starter called up. His command can play and he has a good fastball and the ability to spot all of his secondary offerings. Maybe he could be like Aceves though, same type. Aceves is basically a junk baller but can spot so many things and his stuff is like junk-ball-elite, not quite good starter stuff but with the command it plays. Noesi is the same way (with a better fastball)
Jeter has hit more balls in the air the last couple of games, and he’s actually done a good job leading off the first inning. My issue with him has become the fact that he seems to disappear in the later innings.
Guys (and Erin, who is off getting me a sandwich) – You all sound like pretty smart folks. Thoughtful, friendly, well spoken. Some of you may even be older than 20, But why are you sitting here once again talking about how to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic? Is it me that’s the only one missing what this site is supposed to be for? Frisbeeing ideas to each other about how to rearrange the SS Yankees’ deck chairs? I mean, the bullpen for the rest of 2011? Who cares? It’s all on the O
FA relievers are a tricky business. Seems like the Yankees are 0 for their last 50 on those signings. Soriano, Feliciano, Marte, Farnsworth, Hawkins, Myers, Vizcaino and on and on.
Jeter has hit more balls in the air the last couple of games, and he’s actually done a good job leading off the first inning. My issue with him has become the fact that he seems to disappear in the later innings.
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Maybe they can platoon him. Jeter for innings 1-5 (at home, top of the 5th), Nunez for inning 5 to 9 (bottom of the 5th pinch hit)
True Jerkface. But many of them were showing signs of coming out of it prior to tonight. Jeter has looked better the last handful of games prior to tonight, although will never probably have the occasional power he did early in his career. Alex was starting to hit in Tampa, and Tex seems to be coming out of it. Even Swish and Posada have shown signs, although in Swish’s case it was only one night.
The problem is the timing of the hits, and I have ni explanation for it. I can only beleive that random bad luck has to be playing some role in the RISP fail. It has to sort itself out, right?
Straw – It doesn’t have to sort itself out this season. We’re not victim of random bad luck – it’s actually random bad hitters. In this case, sprinkled generously throughout our lineup. You can’t maintain a long winning streak with this lineup in the same way that you can’t maintain a long winning streak with less than stellar pitching. So for all those who get themselves to sleep by assuming we’re due for a long streak, you’re going to wake up in September disappointed.
I can only beleive that random bad luck has to be playing some role in the RISP fail.
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For the team to be so bad with RISP luck is playing a part. For example, A-rod with a textbook single up the middle, Reyes lays out on the outfield grass behind 2nd and guns him down. Thats a play that not every SS makes. Tex and Swisher both had SHOTS down on the line that just went foul. Cano robbed by Beltran when he anger-pounded that knuckleball
Jeter and Posada have looked better recently but it would be nice to see Jeter get a hit with risp, in those situations he has been dreadful. A big problem has also been innings 7-9 they go down easy and can’t seem to get anything going. I am very down on Swish he is dreadful batting lefty.
But Jerkface, all the at bats you mentioned were not simply bad luck – they were cases of our hitters not being able to get the ball in fair territory and out of reach of the fielders. The cosmos are not a factor here, just bad hitters (granted Cano is a great hitter, but he is as streaky as Danny Tartabull and his 2011 regression has been unpredictably dramatic)
13 runs one night. 1 run the next.
But the stat junkies will say we averaged 7 runs the past 2 games.
That’s why stats never tell the whole story.
Last night everyone hit and they all joined the fun stress free party. When the pressure is on though too many guys on this team look to the next guy to get it done. It’s been this way for years here.
Keep giving away home games. Just keep giving them away.
Bad offense. As in, “not good”, as in “inconsistent”.
13 runs against Baltimore when they had to burn their starter in extras the night before and throw a kid to the wolves yesterday doesn’t make me feel any better. It’s the typical stat padding double digit victory this team has once a week that makes all the numbers on the back of baseball cards look ducky but never fails to address that this current group of hitters are an inconsistent lot of multi-millionaires.
Jeter gets worse as the game goes on primarily because he has no shot against your typical hard throwing RH reliever.
But the stat junkies will say we averaged 7 runs the past 2 games.
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Why would anyone do this??? Wow a whole 2 game sample, no one is going to actually believe that. I don’t like people completely misrepresenting folks who happen to enjoy stats and their illumination of the game.
As I stated earlier, this team scores 5+ as often as the 09 team but isn’t converting them to wins as well.
The problem with this team is they all show signs — for 1 or 2 games, then it’s back in the slump. Or on to the next slump. A couple of weeks ago Jeter had what was supposed to be his big breakout game or two in Texas. He followed that up by hitting .120 over the next week. Swisher seemingly has only hit in two games this year, the game when they beat Baltimore 15-3 and he had a couple of meaningless tack-on hits late, and then yesterday when they scored 12 in another laugher win. In the close games, just like in postseason, he disappears in a puff of whiffs. The season is more than a quarter over now, and this team looks awful. Jeter, Posada and ARod are looking their ages, Cano has regressed back to his flail-at-everything, lackadaisacal defense self of three years ago, Teixiera continues his transformation into Dave Kingman, and Swisher has decided to answer the question of “Which player are you? The 29-homer regular-season guy, or the choke artist from the playoffs?” with the answer: the latter.
That leaves Gardner, Granderson and Russell Martin as the only guys you can count on for anything resembling consistency, if you even want to include Gardner in that category.
People pointed out last year — correctly so — how inconsistent this offense was. They led the league in runs scored, yet scored 3 runs or fewer in exactly 1/3 of their games (54). This year, the inconsistency is even more marked.
The first 17 games of the season they only scored 3 or fewer twice. But over the past 25 games, they’ve been held to 3 runs or fewer 11 times. What’s odd is that in three of those games that they weren’t shut down, they scored 12, 12 and 13 runs, leading us to think they were about to break out of it, only to crawl back into their slump.
You can keep tipping your cap to the pitcher and talking about what great stuff they had tonight, but at some point you have to point out that these guys are being paid a LOT of money to hit major league pitching, and they just haven’t done it over the first 1/4 of the season. What’s even more disconcerting to me is, they don’t seem to even show any late-inning fight. In seasons past, it always seemed that they would at least put the tying run on base, even in games they ended up losing. And they came back to win a lot of games. Not this year. They just go meekly in the late innings, the same as they go meekly in the early and middle innings.
At some point, I believe they are going to have to make a move, similar to when they brought up Cano and Wang to infuse the team with some energy. Something needs to change, or you are looking at a 3rd or 4th place division finish this year.
Jeter, Swisher, Posada are all hurting the team offensively.
Its may. My parents always said, the goal is to get to the all star break in good shape and then go on a run.
And if we get swept by the Mets at home and the offense performs like tonight all weekend you can be sure there will be changes to this offense come Monday.
Everyone knows what giving away home games means to the 2nd half of this season and the front office will not put up with it for too much longer.
If I was Mr. Swisher, I would be seriously concerned about this being my last year (maybe weeks) in pinstripes. He’s lousy except against mediocre pitching that lays fastballs over the plate to him.
Yeah, they’ll move Posada to 9th again…
Rich,
They’ll bring up Montero and they’ll drop Jeter from leadoff against RHP by Monday if they struggle like this all weekend and get swept.
Jeter vs relievers: .143/.169/.196
The problem with the bring-up-Montero scenario is, he’s a catcher, not a dh. Martin has been one of their best and most consistent hitters, and pretty good behind the plate and with the pitchers. It doesn’t seem like dumping Martin as the catcher will help things, and I really don’t think they want to bring up Montero and dh him, or have him sit on the bench as the backup catcher. They want him to develop as a catcher. What they need is a corner outfielder with a bat, and for the middle of the order to start hitting the way they ought to hit. And yes, it would be nice to have a leadoff hitter who could get on base every now and then. They need an injection of energy.
As long as they keep living in the past they will continue to lose. Jeter will never be moved down in the order like he should be because they don’t want another hissy fit, Posada should be a part time player platooning with Montero and Swish should be on bench for a couple of days so he can work with Long. Let Dickerson and Nunez play RF or at least just give Nunez a chance to play RF and see how it looks.
The problem with the bring-up-Montero scenario is, he’s a catcher, not a dh.
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Surprisingly he can do both. In his minor league career he has a higher slash line as a DH than as a catcher.
Yes, Jerkface, but they want him to be a catcher. Having him come up to be a dh sets him back in that development. I’m not arguing against it, I’m just saying that’s the thinking that, I believe, is keeping that from happening. That and, I don’t think they’re ready to totally give up on Posada yet.
Having him come up to be a dh sets him back in that development.
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He can do both. Martin needs time off. Cervelli isn’t the guy. If montero comes up and gets a burst of starts (imagine alternating some starts, or giving Martin every 3rd day off while spending time at DH), they can see what they have.
No one has to give up on Martin or Posada to give Montero PA. Girardi already said in Spring if Montero is on the team they will find ways to get him PA.
I’m not arguing with you. I think it’s a good idea at this point. I just think the Yankees see it the other way — they think “if you call him up, he has to catch the majority of the games.” I guess we’ll find out.
I would have Montero catch Nova, they worked together in AAA, and Colon.
There is never going to a perfect time to bring up Montero. I would think letting him catch some games and DH the others would be perfect. It’s going to be the same situation next year since Martin will be here. If they are waiting until he can catch everyday and his defense is gold glove then he could be in the minors for another couple of years.
Somebody’s playing time is going to get cut if he comes up. Either Posada or Martin. At this point, you would have to say it would be Posada.
I agree with you both. I just wish he played right field, because Posada’s been more productive than Swisher.
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I’ll give you props if they do, but I think the worst they’ll do is to lose 2 out of 3. Then what?
Martin definitely needs more day offs than they are giving him. He looks to be wearing down and he had knee and hip surgery in the off season. Posada already doesn’t play against lefties so Montero can DH in those games and against some righties also. I would much rather have Montero DHing instead of Jones. Posada doesn’t have to DH everyday.
“Jeter, Swisher, Posada are all hurting the team offensively”
Tex, Alex and Cano are all not living up to their potential, and therfore are hurting the team offensively as well.
Granderson gets a pass. Everyone else is suspect.
But that will change.
Somebody’s playing time is going to get cut if he comes up. Either Posada or Martin. At this point, you would have to say it would be Posada.
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Both should get days off, and if you start sitting Martin more then you open him up to pinch hitting and coming in for defense more than he should be now. When he gets a day off now its almost like a relief from catching 5 days in a row and he still has to come in sometimes so he doesn’t get a true day off. IF he is sitting 2 or 3 games you can be more free to insert him back into games.