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Yankees postgame

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The Yankees’ erratic offense was back to struggling again. After scoring 13 runs Thursday night in Baltimore, they managed one run off starter R.A. Dickey in this 2-1 loss to the Mets. The Yankees blamed his hard knuckler.

“That knuckleball was going everywhere, throwing it inside, throwing it outside, up and down,” said Mark Teixeira, who homered in the third but off a Dickey fastball. 

So what’s it really like to try to hit a knuckler?

“It’s been described to me as eating soup with a fork,” Nick Swisher said.

“We really couldn’t tell where it was going.”

It was hard to tell that Dickey had been struggling, having shown up with a 1-5 record and a 5.08 ERA.

The Yankees left seven on base in six innings against Dickey.

Teixeira got caught looking at a knuckler with two on and one out in the fifth. Jose Reyes then robbed Alex Rodriguez with a diving stop on a grounder.

“The play Jose made to end that inning lifted our club up,” Terry Collins said. “I thought it gave our club energy that, ‘Hey we’re still in this game.’ ”

The Yankees couldn’t hit Mike O’Connor, Jason Isringhausen or Francisco Rodriguez, either. Each turned in a 1-2-3 inning. Swisher went down swinging to end the game against K-Rod after fanning in his last two at-bats against Dickey.

“You face somebody throwing 93, 94 after a knuckleballer all game, it kind of feels like 105 miles an hour,” Swisher said.

They ended up wasting a nice start from Freddy Garcia, who gave up the two runs and five hits over seven. Daniel Murphy hit a splitter to the right-field seats for the tiebreaking homer in the sixth.

“I thought it was a good pitch,” Garcia said. “He hit it with one hand. … The ballpark plays really small, but that’s part of the game.”

The Yankees have lost six straight at home for the first time since they dropped eight straight in 2003.

Game two Saturday night features A.J. Burnett and Chris Capuano as the starters.

 
 

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108 Responses to “Yankees postgame”

  1. yankeefeminista May 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Derek Jeter 2011

    1st Batter G .464/.516/.536
    Leadoff Inn. .368/.410/.509

    (Jeter walked tonight in only lead-off appearance, which further improves but has not be factored in to above numbers)

  2. yankeefeminista May 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    *been*

  3. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 12:37 am

    Pinch hit for Jeter after his 1st PA of the game.

  4. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:37 am

    “Tex, Alex and Cano are all not living up to their potential, and therfore are hurting the team offensively as well.

    Granderson gets a pass. Everyone else is suspect.

    But that will change.”

    Tar

    OK, but they give you far more than Swisher, Jeter, and Posada, so they are hurting the team less.

    Jeter needs to be moved down from the 1 and 2 holes.
    They need a RH DH.
    Swisher is just lost and they have no better option against RHP, for now, because Jones stinks.

  5. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:38 am

    yankeefeminista

    So if he’s not leading off a game or an inning, PH for him?

  6. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:40 am

    JF beat me to it, sort of.

  7. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 12:40 am

    Leading off an inning includes his leading off the game stats, so he isn’t doing quite as well as it looks after the first inning.

  8. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 12:40 am

    “Jeter needs to be moved down from the 1 and 2 holes”

    Ok who is your number 1 and 2?

  9. LGY May 21st, 2011 at 12:41 am

    Swisher has a -4.4 runs above average against the curveball this season. That is by far the worst in the American League.

    Justin Smoak is 2nd worst in the AL against the curveball and he has been a full 1.1 runs better than Swish at -3.3

  10. Captain Clutch May 21st, 2011 at 12:42 am

    I wonder if there is a date in Girardi and Cashman’s mind or what has to happen for them to make a move

  11. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:43 am

    “Ok who is your number 1 and 2?”

    Gardner-Granderson, unless there is a pitcher that Jeter has recent great stats against or Gardner has awful stats.

  12. Dill Pickler May 21st, 2011 at 12:44 am

    “It’s been described to me as eating soup with a fork,” Nick Swisher said.

    That’s funny, because watching Nick Swisher play this year has been like stabbing myself in the eyes with a fork.

  13. Captain Clutch May 21st, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Gardner-Granderson
    ———

    Girardi’s famous binder says that 2 lefties can’t bat back to back so that would never happen

  14. yankeefeminista May 21st, 2011 at 12:46 am

    This is merely a rebuttal to the discussion that Jeter has been a terrible lead-off hitter this year. The numbers say otherwise. Does Jeter have deficiencies, yes, but that is a different discussion. However, please don’t force me to come in here to correct irresponsible posting not supported by the numbers.

    Have a good night!

  15. G. Love May 21st, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Captain Clutch,

    The lose this series this weekend and the changes will start.

    I also think June 1st will carry a lot of weight for the team. You give certain guys 2 months to show you something and if they don’t, you start to make big adjustments.

    The only thing that will keep a struggling Jeter in 1 spot vs RHP is the quest for 3000 which is ridiculous to me and is everything against what Jeter supposedly stands for. I thought it was never about personal accomplishments for him but I do think that is a hurdle facing this team that needs to get cleared as soon as possible.

    They lost 2 of 3 this weekend and Girard will sell the same “knuckleball” garbage he sold tonight as an excuse.

    They get swept at home this weekend against a team they should be clobbering?

    You’ll see changes next week in the batting order and I’m fairly certain you’ll see Montero up here.

    I also think if Swisher keeps up what he’s been doing (or not doing in his case) he’ll be dealt.

  16. LGY May 21st, 2011 at 12:48 am

    *Fighting urge to make obvious comment that Jeter is not just the leadoff hitter in his first PA of the game*

  17. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:49 am

    He’s just not a good hitter.

    I view the leadoff/1st batter stats as outliers.

    “However, please don’t force me to come in here to correct irresponsible posting not supported by the number”

    Please factor sample size constraints into your (mis)characterizations.

  18. G. Love May 21st, 2011 at 12:50 am

    So what we’re saying essentially is Jeter is only worth a damn as a hitter if no one is on base and there are no outs.

    Once you add pressure to it, he folds according to the stats this season, correct?

  19. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:50 am

    “I also think if Swisher keeps up what he’s been doing (or not doing in his case) he’ll be dealt.”

    What’s he worth hitting like this?

  20. LGY May 21st, 2011 at 12:52 am

    25% of Jeter’s hits this year are infield hits.

  21. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 12:53 am

    I am not ready to say Gardner is all better now. (I know, I know the evil axis is :evil: )

    He kind of failed miserably at the top to start the year. (and that was against RH pitchers only)

    Also his base-running is completely out of whack ( not to mention bunting).

    Give him time to settle in, let him gain all his confidence back. Then maybe you make that move.

  22. yankeefeminista May 21st, 2011 at 12:55 am

    Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:49 am
    He’s just not a good hitter.

    I view the leadoff/1st batter stats as outliers.

    “However, please don’t force me to come in here to correct irresponsible posting not supported by the number”

    Please factor sample size constraints into your (mis)characterizations.
    _____
    lol, I learned small sample size from Jerkface. He quoted these exact stats for Gardner last year for “1st Batter G” for a mere 20, count ‘em, AB’s.

    I never even considered small sample sizes as valid until I watched how much they are used and skewed here. I am not even that interested in putting up Jeter’s numbers, but when they are constantly used and skewed, someone has to keep you boys honest. Enjoy your night. :)

  23. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 12:55 am

    “25% of Jeter’s hits this year are infield hits”

    90% percent of your posts are anti Jeter drivel.

  24. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:56 am

    I’m not singling anyone out, but if Jeter had been hitting as well as Gardner has over the last 3 or 4 weeks, there would be a lot of eating crow talk.

    To be clear, I want to eat crow about Jeter, although I thought he’d bounce back in a big way this year and decline again next season.

  25. LGY May 21st, 2011 at 12:57 am

    90% percent of your posts are anti Jeter drivel.

    ———————-

    Definitely false.

    I actually haven’t really posted anything about Jeter in weeks.

  26. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:57 am

    “…but when they are constantly used and skewed, someone has to keep you boys honest. ”

    I may be an idiot, but I’m honest.

    GN

  27. G. Love May 21st, 2011 at 12:58 am

    Rich,

    Swisher would be dealt for a similar reclamation like project. Probably a starting pitcher or OF’er in a similar age/contract range who is wearing out their welcome in their town. Think Jonathan Sanchez on the Giants, another player accused of “drifting mentally”.

  28. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:59 am

    G Love

    OK, but they need an OF back or in another deal.

  29. yankeefeminista May 21st, 2011 at 1:01 am

    Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 12:57 am
    “…but when they are constantly used and skewed, someone has to keep you boys honest. ”

    I may be an idiot, but I’m honest.

    GN
    _____
    The skewed numbers reference was not aimed at you, as we both well know. GN.

  30. G. Love May 21st, 2011 at 1:03 am

    Rich,

    They could have Beltran probably next week if they take on all his salary from this point on.

    And for the record, he moved a heckuva lot better in RF than Swisher has moved this season.

  31. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 1:03 am

    “I’m not singling anyone out, but if Jeter had been hitting as well as Gardner has over the last 3 or 4 weeks, there would be a lot of eating crow talk.”

    Why just take 3 or 4 weeks? Gardner leading off this year. (mainly against Rh pitchers)

    .167 .222 .238 .460

    Just leave him alone, let him go on an extended tear and re-evaluate then.

    That’s my take on it.

  32. Captain Clutch May 21st, 2011 at 1:06 am

    What we are seeing from Jeter going back to the end of last year is many more bad days than good days. He has only driven the ball a couple of times this year and his hits are balls that just get through the infield. I know no one is allowed to say anything bad about him but honestly I really don’t think he has much left. Whether it’s bat speed or what it’s just not there.

  33. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 1:06 am

    G Love

    I guess if they could dump Swisher’s salary and not give up too much for Beltran, but I suspect the Mets don’t want to deal with the Yankees on the same terms as they would other teams.

    Tar

    Because Gardner has struggle do start a season before and went on to have a good season. Similarly, he led off when he wasn’t hitting.

  34. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 1:07 am

    struggled to start…

  35. G. Love May 21st, 2011 at 1:08 am

    Tar,

    I’d give Gardner another shot leading off against RHP. If we learned anything from watching Cano develop, sometimes being promoted in the batting order takes a few attempts to work. Cano used to not be able to hit above 6 in the past and when they promoted him he’d fail his way back down to the bottom of the lineup. It took patience and several attempts to get him where he was last year in a big run producer spot.

    Doing the same old thing with Jeter is not improving things. This team isn’t killing the opposition so it’s not like taking chances is going to hurt the offense.

  36. G. Love May 21st, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Clutch,

    While I agree that Jeter isn’t the Jeter of old and probably will never will be with some rare exceptional days from this point on, I don’t think he’s done anything in the field to cost his team a game this year.

    If he was just a sure handed SS, Yankee legend who was batting in the bottom of the order there would be less heat on him.

    Leading off and the impression that the team and the player are blind to his struggles at the plate is what is getting fans hot.

  37. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Rich

    Leading off is not for everyone. BG is a protypical lead-off man-on paper. Real-life… well let’s just say it’s a process. :wink:

  38. RS May 21st, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Going forward, Gardner’s the only player in-house who seems to be a solid option to lead off, so why not let him get accustomed now? Who do you see being this team’s leadoff hitter next year, or 2013? Jeter’s barely hanging by a thread. Gardner has to get comfortable in the leadoff spot eventually, because we have no one else to put there. Plus, I’m sure he batted first a lot in the minors, so he must have some inherent ability (his minor league numbers were good).

  39. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 1:16 am

    Tar

    The overriding issue with lineup construction is that you want to give your best hitters the most AB. Now, you can stack the top four spots in the lineup with Cano, Teix, A-Rod and Granderson in some order, if you prefer, but any way you slice, Jeter is not one of their best hitters and should not get more AB.

    Over the last month, Gardner is one of their better hitters.

    Again, leave him at SS, but let’s not pretend about what he appears to have left offensively.

  40. Captain Clutch May 21st, 2011 at 1:21 am

    G. Love,

    If everyone was hitting then Jeter batting lead off wouldn’t be a big deal but since most of them are struggling it really stands out more. We are going to have to forget about it because I really doubt they will move him down this year. We just have to hope that the main guys snap out of it and get more consistent. If Posada and Swish don’t get better that they play less and Cash makes a move with Montero.

  41. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 1:38 am

    “Now, you can stack the top four spots in the lineup with Cano, Teix, A-Rod and Granderson in some order, if you prefer, but any way you slice, Jeter is not one of their best hitters and should not get more AB”

    But that’s not way it’s done. Take that up with Giradi.

    I am not against moving Jeter down and Gardner up at some point this year. I don’t think we are that point.

    Gardner needs to have the whole package together, for a period of time before he convinces the people in charge, he’s ready for that role. He hasn’t done that yet. He’s had a chance and he will get another, let’s hope he runs with it (pun intended).

    As for Jeter

    “If everyone was hitting then Jeter batting lead off wouldn’t be a big deal but since most of them are struggling it really stands out more”

    This is very true.

    I thought and posted last year was all the Yankees need is for Granderson to play good defense, and get hot at the right time.

    I feel the same way about Jeter this year.

    Derek Jeter is the SS on this team and is not the problem with this offense (even leading off) .

    Actually I am not sure what the problem is because the team leads the league in every statistical category except batting average. Go figure.

    (Sorry for all and any typos)

  42. MoRings42 May 21st, 2011 at 1:38 am

    Gardner has a .429 OBP in the month of May

    Meanwhile, Jeter has .306 OBP in the month of May.

    I don’t get it. Why are they giving Gardner less AB’s? Why does it seem to be sacrilegious to suggest that Jeter should be moved down in the order?

    Isn’t the point to win games?

  43. MoRings42 May 21st, 2011 at 1:40 am

    I guess I should have read the other comments first

  44. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 1:42 am

    I never even considered small sample sizes as valid until I watched how much they are used and skewed here. I am not even that interested in putting up Jeter’s numbers, but when they are constantly used and skewed, someone has to keep you boys honest.

    *posts something to rebut nonexistent argument*
    *ignores leadoff hitters responsibility of getting the most PAs in a game*
    *ignores all evidence against*
    *is yankeefeminista*

  45. UnKnown May 21st, 2011 at 1:44 am

    Freddy you pitched great but don’t blame that blast you gave up on “the park playing small.” That ball was crushed Chief.

  46. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 1:45 am

    Freddy you pitched great but don’t blame that blast you gave up on “the park playing small.” That ball was crushed Chief.

    Might have been hit hard, but it was only hit hard 310 ft. Just like Tex crushed a ball 315 feet.

  47. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 1:48 am

    The Yankees are also last in MLB in doubles. :shock:

  48. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 1:50 am

    “But that’s not way it’s done. Take that up with Giradi.”

    After the way the Posada thing has been handled, I have no confidence in him with regard to lineup construction.

    But it is done that way to the extent that players with Jeter’s OBP, don’t lead off.

  49. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 1:51 am

    The real issue with Jeter is that he disappears after the 3rd inning. Its his job to start rallies before the heart of the order and he can’t be counted on to do that.

  50. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 1:56 am

    “But it is done that way to the extent that players with Jeter’s OBP, don’t lead off”

    Actually, Gardner’s OBP when hitting lead-off is 100 points worse than Jeter.

  51. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 2:00 am

    Actually, Gardner’s OBP when hitting lead-off is 100 points worse than Jeter.

    Of course, because Gardner led off when he was awful. But he succeeded in that spot in 09 and ’10. If Gardner is hitting, batting 1st doesn’t phase him. I don’t think if he hit 9th to start the year, it would have gone any different.

  52. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 2:01 am

    Maybe the key to getting Jeter healthy is batting him 9th, since he can’t handle leadoff right now.

  53. jacksquat May 21st, 2011 at 2:04 am

    yankeefeminista May 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am
    Derek Jeter 2011

    1st Batter G .464/.516/.536
    Leadoff Inn. .368/.410/.509

    (Jeter walked tonight in only lead-off appearance, which further improves but has not be factored in to above numbers)

    Jeter has a lot of weird splits.

    vs. Left 44 8 13 2 0 1 2 6 1 3 0 0 .295 .392 .409 .801
    vs. Right 127 16 31 2 1 1 11 6 1 20 2 2 .244 .277 .299 .576

    Home 89 14 20 1 0 0 5 8 2 9 1 0 .225 .294 .236 .530
    Away 82 10 24 3 1 2 8 4 0 14 1 2 .293 .326 .427 .753

    Day 43 8 14 2 0 2 7 5 1 5 1 1 .326 .392 .512 .904
    Night 128 16 30 2 1 0 6 7 1 18 1 1 .234 .277 .266 .543

    Grass 153 23 42 4 1 2 11 11 2 20 2 2 .275 .325 .353 .678
    Turf 18 1 2 0 0 0 2 1 0 3 0 0 .111 .158 .111 .269

    None On 108 2 32 4 0 2 2 6 1 14 0 0 .296 .339 .389 .728
    Runners On 63 22 12 0 1 0 11 6 1 9 2 2 .190 .260 .222 .482
    Scoring Position 42 19 7 0 1 0 11 4 1 6 1 0 .167 .240 .214 .454

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock May 21st, 2011 at 2:06 am

    # MoRings42 May 21st, 2011 at 1:38 am

    Gardner has a .429 OBP in the month of May

    Meanwhile, Jeter has .306 OBP in the month of May.

    I don’t get it. Why are they giving Gardner less AB’s? Why does it seem to be sacrilegious to suggest that Jeter should be moved down in the order?

    Isn’t the point to win games?
    ////

    For me, sacrilege has nothing to do with it. I’m not assuming Gardner will just be better as a leadoff hitter than DJ, even a declining DJ. If this were Slade Heathcott (ETA 2014), with a ton of upside, I’d be a little more inclined to take for granted that he would eventually grow into the role & therefore the commitment to him there would eventually be rewarded. I just don’t see it with Gardner. He’s too much of a project. project swing mechanics, project base stealer, even the BBs sometimes seem as much a product of paralysis at swinging at hittable pitches than a discerning eye, reluctant to bunt even though it would make him much more useful, etc. He’s a self-made baseball player & a nice package for a nine hitter, when the rest of the lineup is going, but not a long term answer at leadoff, IMO. If you want to run him out there as a trial thing vs RHP & leave Jeter in against lefties you could, but I can’t see it as a long term solution. I think sticking with Jeter, even in his twilight, will actually pay bigger dividends in the short term (this season). Yea it’s about winning games & I still feel, even if by default, my better option is DJ batting 1st.

  55. MoRings42 May 21st, 2011 at 2:07 am

    Jeter may not be “the” problem but he doesn’t help the situtation. We have someone else on the team who is not only hitting better, but gets on base more often and is a hell of alot faster.

    The point is to win games and to get to the World Series. Nothing else. It’s not about 3,000 hits. That’s just something to root for along the way. Jeter can always move back if he hits better or hits against someone better. The line up should be flexible with everyone.

    I just don’t get this team sometimes.

  56. jacksquat May 21st, 2011 at 2:08 am

    Maybe the Yankees should just make a policy, no contracts that go past age 35, no matter how great the player has been, except 1 year contracts.

  57. Tar May 21st, 2011 at 2:09 am

    “Of course, because Gardner led off when he was awful. But he succeeded in that spot in 09 and ’10. If Gardner is hitting, batting 1st doesn’t phase him. I don’t think if he hit 9th to start the year, it would have gone any different

    *posts something to rebut nonexistent argument*
    ignores leadoff hitters responsibility of getting the most PAs in a game* (huh)
    *ignores all evidence against*
    *is Jerkface

    Keep trying you might come with something

    Nice post J.A.P.

  58. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 2:11 am

    Tar,

    what is going on there? You don’t understand that the leadoff hitter is more important than simply leading off the game? They get the most PA on the team. They hit before your best bats. Jeter is dynamite first inning, but he disappears the rest of the game. That helps no one.

  59. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 2:12 am

    For me, sacrilege has nothing to do with it. I’m not assuming Gardner will just be better as a leadoff hitter than DJ, even a declining DJ.

    Given your preachy posts, it has everything to do with it.

  60. MoRings42 May 21st, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Why are you holding Gardner to a different light than Jeter? Jeter rarely steals, he rarely bunts.. he can no longer inside out the ball.. he’s a different hitter than he was

  61. J. Alfred Prufrock May 21st, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Thanks Tar. It’s not about Jeter MUST be leadoff because he is “Jeter”. That’s the strawman argument. It’s about, what are the alternatives? They are, IMO, a few years away if they’re coming out of our system.

  62. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 2:19 am

    It’s not about Jeter MUST be leadoff because he is “Jeter”.

    Jeter must hit in the 1st inning because he is jeter

  63. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 2:21 am

    I would shake up the lineup more than just batting Gardner 1st (or not even bat him 1st!), but Girardi is a slave to lefty-lefty positioning despite our lefties generally being able to handle lefties now.

    Swisher’s suckitude hurts lineup choices because he was a good optimizer in the 2 spot. You could bat Jeter 8th, Gardner 9th, Granderson 1st, Cano 2nd, Tex third, A-rod 4th, Swisher 5th, but Swisher sucks so we can’t do that.

  64. LGY May 21st, 2011 at 2:21 am

    Every starter on this team except for Posada is a better option than Jeter as a leadoff hitter.

  65. jacksquat May 21st, 2011 at 2:23 am

    BloggingBombers Girardi was asked if he would think about shaking up the lineup. “The last time I did something, everyone was in an uproar.”

    Great, so basically Girardi can’t run the team because he is afraid.

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock May 21st, 2011 at 2:26 am

    I think Joe had tongue in cheek.

    Night, all.

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan May 21st, 2011 at 2:33 am

    It doesn’t matter much where anyone hits in this lineup – no one is hitting consistently. Yes, we have hit this many home runs and scored this many runs . . . and we have lost 6 games in a row at home. And all I heard tonight were excuses why a crap 1-5 5.08 pitcher beat us.

  68. Captain Clutch May 21st, 2011 at 2:38 am

    “We don’t face those guys [knuckleballers] more than twice a year anyway,” said Swisher, who went 0-for-3 with three strikeouts — two by Dickey. “I’ll give them those at-bats.

    Swisher is now 10 for his last 51 at the plate (.196) with 19 strikeouts.

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan May 21st, 2011 at 3:44 am

    We’re a fourth of the way through the season and Boston (remember them?) is ahead of us in the standings. So at what point does this become a cause for concern?

  70. Jerkface May 21st, 2011 at 3:48 am

    So at what point does this become a cause for concern?

    When they are more games ahead of us than there are left to play. Blah blah blah look at the standings every year blah blah blah. Have to wait until an appreciable amount of games are played before things really shake out.

  71. Gary May 21st, 2011 at 6:37 am

    Morning, well another tough loss for a good pitching performance by a Yankee starter.

    Don’t buy the excuse of the tough Knuckleballer who went out there with a 1-5 record. We are a much better team than we showed last night.

    Getting tired of the Swisher denial of the day. 41 games into the season and your batting .218 with only 7 doubles/ 2 HR’s and 19 RBI’s. On the flip side 37K’s already. Nick your problem is alot more than the knuckleball.

  72. sunny615 May 21st, 2011 at 6:56 am

    Welcome to third place Yankees. You again sucked.

  73. DocTodd May 21st, 2011 at 7:01 am

    Last night was embarrassing…

  74. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 7:05 am

    I’m not embarrassed, just frustrated that nothing is being done to address the glaring offensive underproduction.

  75. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:10 am

    Garcia and the bullpen did a nice job last last…..the rest was embarrassing. Scoring 1 run against the garbage the Mets threw out there for 9 innings shouldn’t happen.

    Gotta turn the page and win tonight though…..really have to take 2 of 3 from the Mets at home.

    I see it was all Derek Jeter’s fault again with the overnight crew……you guys do realize that he got on base 2 times more than Gardner did last night right? Putting Jeter under a magnifying glass when the rest of the team did nothing offensively is silly …..none of them hit and thats why they lost.

  76. rr212 May 21st, 2011 at 7:17 am

    No home field advantage. 13-12. That’s brutal.

  77. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 7:18 am

    “I see it was all Derek Jeter’s fault again with the overnight crew…”

    This is false, blake

    Three names have been mentioned: Posada, Swisher, Jeter on this thread or the prior one.

    Unlike the other two, no one is saying Jeter should be replaced except in the leadoff position.

    Posada can remain the LH DH.

    Swisher should go if only to reduce the team’s annoying quotient.

    As I said, if Jeter’s stats were similar to Gardner’s over the last three or four weeks, people would be saying (perhaps correctly) that’s he’s back.

    Gardner since April 26th:

    .368 .450 .529 .979

    http://www.baseballmusings.com.....yerID=9927

    Just keeping it real.

  78. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:19 am

    They scored a ton of runs the night before and had won 3 straight games……im not sure what they were supposed to do with the offense before last nights game.

    As currently constructed…..when Granderson, Tex, Arod, and Cano don’t hit they are going to have a tough time scoring runs. They need Montero to get red hot at SWB and then bring him up and see if he can help

  79. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 7:23 am

    One thing they could do is to be consistent. If you are going to risk alienating a player who has done as much for the franchise as Posada (and there was some reason to do it), that reasoning should last for more than a day.

    But Girardi just made a fool of himself on that.

    Another thing would be to get their best hitters the most AB by putting them all at the top of the lineup.

  80. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Rich,

    I admittedly didn’t read all the way back through the read ….I just woke up. However as it relates to last nights loss Jeter was no more a cause than anyone else and less so than some.

    I understand the frustration with Swisher….but they really dont have a lot of options there and none that are as good as he CAN be. He stinks right now…..but he was pretty darn good the last 2 seasons and he’s in his prime age wise. Therefore the Yankees best option right now.in RF is.probably to continue to hope he plays to his potential.

    Posada I think has a couple more.weeks and then they will start off platooning him at DH with Montero.

  81. DocTodd May 21st, 2011 at 7:25 am

    Swisher has stunk up the joint the last few postseasons,now he’s doing it full-time. He made adjustments in the past to ‘quiet’ his swing, but now he’s back to trying to hit a 5 run homer every at bat…I’d rather see Nunez out in RF…I doubt they’ll trade Hollywood, who would want him?? I’m hoping they pass on the 2012 option…but I can see them doing something dumb, like passing on his option, but resigning him for less for say a 2 year contract….I’ll be happy when he’s gone, whenever that occurs..

  82. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Also, the workload may have worn Martin down and Cervelli is a mLer in a ML uniform.

  83. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 7:29 am

    blake

    No one pinned the loss on Jeter as far as I can tell.

    How long do you give Swisher and what’s the contingency plan? I’d start giving Nunez time in RF.

  84. Rich in NJ May 21st, 2011 at 7:30 am

    I have errands to run. Enjoy your day. They’ll win tonight…or else!!!!

  85. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:34 am

    Rich,

    I think you have to give him at least until the all star break because that’s just the thing….what is the contingency plan? Do you stick Nunez out there? A guy with very limited experience in the outfield…….and a guy who has very little big league track record? Do you try to make a trade at the deadline …..for who? Beltran, Sizemore, somebody off the Twins? That market hasn’t developed yet and we don’t know what the prices will be.

    As I said, the best option is for Swisher to play better because there is no clear alternative and because he’s a good player playing bad right now……

  86. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:37 am

    Rich,

    Enjoy your day as well…..im in boring lectures all day so after that Ill be expected to.sit down and watch a victory…..or else as you say ;)

  87. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:38 am

    Expecting.

  88. blake May 21st, 2011 at 7:40 am

    Glass half empty : Yanks are in 3rd place
    Glass half Full: Yanks are tied for 1st place in the loss column

  89. Keith--FL May 21st, 2011 at 7:47 am

    It seems the Yankees will keep crediting the good pitching and the tip your cap stance to the other pitcher…the 13 runs scored the other night was an aberration as this offense needs a shake-up, Vazquez and Montero is a start as well as batting Cano 3rd, Tex 5th….you can say the line-up was truly exposed in the ALCS last year vs. the Rangers as Cano was the only one to truly hit….see this article from Kernan in today’s NY Post below, says it all perfectly…..

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1MzCxD8MX

  90. BIG AL May 21st, 2011 at 8:02 am

    R.A. Dickey is such a tough pitcher for the Yankees to hit, but, the NL eats him up. Give me a break with those lame excuses.

    The real problem is not hitting with RISP, period!

    Swisher had best stick to acting, because he can no longer hit a baseball. He can put on his resume, “I once played a baseball player in NY.”

  91. Wang IS Taiwan May 21st, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Not a fan of the “tip of the cap” excuses the guys offer up so much of the time. This guy was considered a slug. Why do the Yanks have such a difficult time when other teams can hit a particular pitcher with ease?

    Frustrating.

  92. randy l. May 21st, 2011 at 8:10 am

    not surprisingly, as the weather heats up and lgy ventures outdoors to see if can still kick his beloved soccer ball around, team jerkface has pulled ahead significantly of team lgy in the season long competition to use the word “jeter” as many times as possible.

    lgy in his latest tweet says he will sleep less if necessary to close the gap.

  93. blake May 21st, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Randy,

    :)

  94. Wang IS Taiwan May 21st, 2011 at 8:16 am

    “Eventually it’s going to turn,” Girardi said.

    This is the problem with Girardi — he thinks if he just waits long enough, he won’t need to make the tough decisions.

  95. TheStraw May 21st, 2011 at 8:25 am

    The biggest problem, as Tar pointed out last night, is that the Yanks are last in the major league in doubles. I’m not sure what accounts for this. Are they simply swinging for the fences too much, resulting in the HR, single or K cycle? Are their swings messed up mechanically? Is it a question of not seeing the ball properly? Is it bad luck?

    You would think that KLong or somebody woukd take notice of this. Not sure how to fix it. Maybe giving more time to Nunez, Chavez when he comes back, Dickerson woukd help. Those guys have neglible power, so they are more likely to hit gappers than Swish. Posada uswd to hit a lot of doubles and seems like he might be geeting better, but no reason they can’t mix in a healthy dose of Chavez when he is ready.

  96. randy l. May 21st, 2011 at 8:29 am

    blake-

    lgy and jerkface are in a minor dispute because lgy has had jeter’s image painted on his soccer ball and he wants credit for a “jeter” every time he kicks the image.

    jerkface says there’s no way to measure it accurately, but it appears lgy has some unpaid interns ) who watch him and grade his kicks as a soft kick,a medium kick, or a hard kick.

    they may compromise and count only the hard kicks.

    this new stat will be called “jeter”+ .

  97. Niblick May 21st, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Only 2 pitchers in MLB have more blown saves than Mo this year.

  98. 108 stitches May 21st, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Another wasted quality start by Freddy Garcia. The rest of the starting staff has experienced the same thing due to lack of run support.
    Wasn’t the hitting supposed to carry this team ?

  99. randy l. May 21st, 2011 at 8:54 am

    “Wasn’t the hitting supposed to carry this team ?”

    if this team doesn’t lead the league in hitting, they are going to have problems.

  100. joeman May 21st, 2011 at 8:54 am

    # Niblick May 21st, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Only 2 pitchers in MLB have more blown saves than Mo this year.
    ———————————————
    Mo isn’t the same pitcher he once was, still a very good one but he’s slipping. It will be a sad day when he leaves because was the MVP on the WS runs they had. And when Mo knows he’s had it he will leave the game, no hanging on for him

  101. joeman May 21st, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Wang IS Taiwan May 21st, 2011 at 8:16 am

    “Eventually it’s going to turn,” Girardi said.

    This is the problem with Girardi — he thinks if he just waits long enough, he won’t need to make
    —————————————–
    he knows what he has with this team….Bos manager was saying the same think about the Sox team,it took time but they turned it around…Yanks will do the same

  102. Against All Odds May 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Wasn’t the hitting supposed to carry this team ?

    ———————————————–

    that’s what we all thought lol

  103. Purenyyankee May 21st, 2011 at 9:03 am

    I’m TIRED of heaing the excuses from this MISERABLE team. Before last night, Dickey was awful. He was 1-5 and his ERA was over 5. That’s his FIRST win since April 3. Shut up and go win a ballgame. Losing SIX games in a row at home is completely UNACCEPTABLE. Posada needs to SIT. Swisher needs to SIT. I don’t care what kid comes up here. Shake things up. I’m fed up with this GUTLESS team.

  104. randy l. May 21st, 2011 at 9:03 am

    “.Bos manager was saying the same think about the Sox team,it took time but they turned it around”

    with two starters now out, has boston really turned it around ?

    the next few times through their rotation is going to be interesting.

  105. Wang IS Taiwan May 21st, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Joeman,

    I’m afraid I don’t share your optimism, but that doesn’t mean I still don’t have a tiny bit of hope that you’re right.

  106. TheStraw May 21st, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Dbacks release Russel Branyan—is he worth a flier? Although we probably have too many K or HR guys now. But that lefthanded power woukd be nice at NYS.

  107. Triple Short of a Cycle May 21st, 2011 at 9:35 am

    randy l,

    Problem is we have been playing like this since last August Boston hasn’t

  108. Ghostwriter May 21st, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Since about this time last year, the Yanks have been putting the lie to the central contention of sabremetrics that OBP and slugging are all that matter when it comes to run production. The consistency and day to day variability of run production also has a powerful determinative influence. Scoring 13 runs one day, and 1 run the next is going to make for a .500 team; it almost doesn’t matter how good the pitching is if the offense is this erratic.

    I trace the decline of this team’s ability to produce runs consistently to the departures of Matsui and Damon: We never replaced their clutch bats, although Granderson and Martin have picked up some of the slack. Even so, these problems of producing with men on base seems endemic to this lineup, it isn’t just Swisher and Posada, but it’s also ARod, And Cano–it’s up and down the lineup. If the problem is this endemic, then maybe the Yanks ought to consider shaking things up by bringing in a new hitting coach. For my part, I would shake up the lineup a bit, try to find a way to get a new right fielder, release jones, and move Swish to the bench or as part of a platoon.

    Right now, A-Rod and Cano are killing us in the middle of the lineup, so I would try this order, at least until Cano and ARod start showing a little more consistency at the plate and with runners in scoring position:

    Gardy
    Jeter
    Granderson
    Tex
    A-Rod
    Cano
    Martin
    Posada
    Swisher

    And frankly, at this point, I very easily envision swapping Martin and Jeter in the batting order.

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