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Pregame notes: “I’m not that type of guy”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on May 23, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The leading home run hitters in the American League are squaring off tonight, and while most seem to be wondering how Juan Bautista got to the top of that list — from fairly anonymous player to arguably the most dangerous hitter in the game — Curtis Granderson seems to find it more bizarre to find himself on that list.

“It (was) unusual for people to throw these crazy predictions before I even played my first game as a Yankee,” Granderson said. “And with the stuff that’s going on now, there’s even crazier ones. I ask people, physically, look at me. I’m not that type to guy. If it happens, great. It’s not something I try to do. I don’t put myself in a category like Bautista or a Ryan Howard or an Alex Rodriguez, except for the fact we’re all baseball players.”

Granderson hit 30 home runs in his last year with the Tigers, and because he was moving from Detroit’s spacious ballpark to the Yankees occasionally homer-happy stadium, there were instantly predictions of 40-plus. Then Granderson got off to a miserable start last season, and those lofty hopes were kind of forgotten.

It was somewhat forgotten — or lost completely — that Granderson hit 14 home runs in his last 46 games last season. This year he has 16 through 45 games. He’s been hitting home runs near this pace for roughly a half-season worth of games.

“Bautista you saw a whole year of the same thing and now you’ve seen two months of it,” Joe Girardi said. “Curtis, it’s been the past four months, but it was two months one year and maybe people forget. It’s not glaring how many home runs he hit last year, but then you look at his two months this year and you say, wow, he’s got a lot at this point. It’s two guys that have made adjustments and have become big power hitters.”

Fair enough, but don’t expect Granderson to buy into it any time soon. He called 40-plus home runs a “kid dream kind of deal,” something he’d obviously like to do but would never actively pursue.

“I’ve never considered myself that,” he said. “I try to drive the baseball, I’ll say that. Sometimes they happen to get out of the ballpark.”

Here’s Granderson.

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• Nick Swisher is getting another healthy day off to work on his left-handed swing. It reminds me of the days Granderson was given late last season when he and Kevin Long made those successful changes to his swing. “He’s just doing the drills that he’s been doing,” Girardi said. “There’s a lot of different ways to work with players when they’re going through some tough times, offensively or pitching. You can keep running them out there or you can give them a couple days to try to work on some stuff. I chose at this point — because I’ve been running him out there every day — to give him a couple days.”

• Girardi said there’s a chance Rafael Soriano will be on a mound at the end of this home stand. Sounds like it’s not set in stone, but that’s what the medical staff was talking about.

• Still no date set for Phil Hughes to get on a mound. He’s scheduled to make the upcoming West Coast trip.

• Alex Rodriguez has not had his hip checked. No appointment scheduled. Rodriguez said last weekend that it wasn’t an urgent matter, just something they want to have checked at some point. It’s not bothering him.

• Girardi plans to stay away from Joba Chamberlain today, but that’s strictly because of his workload. It has nothing to do with Chamberlain’s eye infection. “I was not aware of his eye infection,” Girardi said. “Sometimes I’m the last one to hear things. It’s been that way my whole life. I will stay away from him today.”

• Eric Chavez is walking around without his protective boot, but he can’t run yet. He won’t really begin baseball activities until he can run. “I can’t tell you when he’ll be able to run,” Girardi said. “But he seems to be doing OK. As far as walking. He’s walking fine, but it’s just getting to that next step.”

• Girardi said it’s hard to call Bartolo Colon a surprise at this point: “We witnessed it almost three months,” Girardi said. “It was a pleasant surprise early on, what I saw in spring training. But it’s a guy now that you expect it from, and when you don’t get great location, you’re a little bit shocked. Like the day he had in Texas. We were a little bit shocked. He’s been outstanding. It’s a guy you expect to give you a distance. It’s a guy you expect to keep you right in the game and throw a ton of strikes.”

• A very quick congratulations to my friend Trisha who was married this weekend in Michigan. It was great to get up north and see her family, who I hadn’t seen in several years. Congratulations to Trisha and Nick!

BLUE JAYS
Rajai Davis CF
Corey Patterson LF
Jose Bautista RF
Yunel Escobar SS
Juan Rivera 1B
Aaron Hill 2B
Eric Thames DH
J.P. Arencibia C
Edwin Encarnacion 3B

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199 Responses to “Pregame notes: “I’m not that type of guy””

  1. mick May 23rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Trisha married Nick? :)

  2. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Nick, you got some ‘splainin to do…

  3. LGY May 23rd, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    LGY –Alex got nothing he wouldn’t have gotten this offseason aside from strife and the possibility to play for some worse team (and no WS ring). 7 years $190m is what the extension breaks down to. Even with hip surgury he signs that contact this past offseason, if not more

    ——

    :shock:

    You think ARod would have gotten 7/190 this winter??

  4. Warning Track Power May 23rd, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Mo will probably get in the game no matter what tonight.
    He last pitched on the 18th.

    How about another strong 8 innings from Colon and Mo in the 9th(with a six run lead).

  5. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Can it simply be that Cashman does not want to expose Montero in the bigs and is planning on pulling the trigger for a top notch player at the deadline?

    I know just as much about Super 8 coming out next month as I do Super 2. Which is not much to brag about.

  6. Carlo May 23rd, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    I think Jo Jo Reyes hasnt won in 27 or 28 starts…..he will either tie or break a record if he doesnt get a win against us on Wednesday. We’ve broken some long losing streaks for folks this year, lets not break this one.

  7. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Speaking of movies. Which movie will gross the most come years end?

    Transformers
    Cars 2
    Harry Potter
    X-MEN
    Aliens vs. Cowboys
    ??

    My monies on Potter.

  8. Warning Track Power May 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    If Bautista hits a HR tonight, I will be very, very unhappy.
    Keep the ball on the outside part of the plate. If he can manage to hit a HR to the opposite field, then tip your cap to him.
    Make him hit the ball the other way and DO NOT throw the ball inside, unless the ball is busting him in or actually hitting him in the arm

  9. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Speaking of movies. Which movie will gross the most come years end?

    Transformers
    Cars 2
    Harry Potter
    X-MEN
    Aliens vs. Cowboys
    ??
    Add
    Kung Fu Panda 2
    Hangover 2

    Still on Potter

  10. Bronx Jeers May 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Lee has been the best pitcher in baseball for the last few years (CC has not)

    ———————————————-

    Lee has not been the best pitcher in baseball by far and one could argue that even CC’s been better than him over the last 2 seasons. 2008 Lee was better than CC but in 2007 & 2006 Lee was just another starter and CC was great.

    CC’s younger and has had a far more consistent/better career. Lee was a late bloomer and didn’t look great in Texas and hasn’t really caught fire in Philly.

    I don’t get why CC gets no love.

  11. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    BJ – Don’t look now, but 2007 was 4 years ago. In the 3 years since, Lee has been better.

    LGY – Obviously I think that, I said it.

    Werth – 7/124
    AGon – 7/154
    A-Riod – 7/196

    Yeah, I think he’d get that. One of these players is going to break the ML home run reacord and fill your ballpark, 2 of them aren’t.

  12. Nick in SF May 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    I was not in Michigan this weekend, I have witnesses.

    And I prefer CC to Lee, so there.

  13. RMS May 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball.

  14. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Riod was a typo, not insinuating anything there.

  15. Captain Clutch May 23rd, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    I hope the Yanks don’t let Roidtista beat them like they did with Miguel Cabrera. If 1st base is open with 1 or 2 outs pitch him on the outside part of the plate and if you walk him then you walk him. But they can’t let him beat them. Make Escobar and Rivera batting behind him beat you.

  16. LGY May 23rd, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Why would any sane person pay Alex 27-30 million until he is 42 years old?

    Why on earth would they do it with knowledge of his steroid use, hip issues, and the 2010 season he just came off?

  17. Warning Track Power May 23rd, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Hey Cappie-
    Last week ESPN featured Bautista and when I saw the hitting stats of the other 8 blue jays, there is no reason to let him beat the Yankees.
    The rest of that line-up is nowhere near as good as him.
    Either walk the guy 4 times or pitch away. Stay away. Nothing down the middle. No pitches on the inner half.
    Everything away and let him get himself out.

  18. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    A-Rod hit 30HR last year and had the lowest BABIP of his career. Was he bad on some other planet?

  19. LGY May 23rd, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    A-Rod hit 30HR last year and had the lowest BABIP of his career. Was he bad on some other planet?

    ——

    Bad? No.

    One of the better players in baseball? Not even close.

  20. LGY May 23rd, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    He is had the worst year of his career and continued to have hip issues and he would be 35 at the start of his contract.

  21. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    I didn’t realize that baseball stars were infallible and never had “off” years recovering from surgery.

    Would he have gotten the same exact contract? No… probably not. Would it have been damn close? Yes, absolutely.

    Was it worth it for him to opt out and possibly go to some other team, not get those years or the $, and eliminating the 2009 WS ring on his shelf? For an extra… let’s say the Yankees over-paid him $15m from what he would have received this offseason? I don’t think so.

  22. Bronx Jeers May 23rd, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    BJ – Don’t look now, but 2007 was 4 years ago. In the 3 years since, Lee has been better.

    —————————————————————————————————————–

    Cliff Lee was awesome in 2008 but CC basically put the Brewers on his back and carried them to the postseason. I’m not sure what criteria you’re using to say Lee was better CC the last 2 seasons.

    Where are all the stat guys when you need them?

  23. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Remember at the time ownership stared him directly in the face and said “opt out and you’re gone”. Yes, they backed down on that but that is hindsight, it was not the most likely of scenarios.

  24. LGY May 23rd, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    ID

    He is 35 years old, had hip surgery, an admitted steroid user, and was coming off the worst year of his career.

    He would have gotten nowhere close to 200 million. Not even close.

  25. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    BJ – I am one, and Lee was better by almost every measuable and formulaic category.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....#038;ind=0

  26. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Only mound I wanna see soriano near is under one in the woods somewhere.

  27. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Albert Pujoles had better hope his 2011 season is as “bad” as Rodriguez’ 2010 season was, because right now, the only thing Pujols leads in is GIDP.

  28. Bronx Jeers May 23rd, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Ahhh …. WAR

    Forget I said anything.

  29. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Cliff Lee is great if you don’t want more than 200 innings

  30. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Bronk Jeers – Is there some other measure of pitcher you wish to discuss? CC is not leading Lee is any measurable category.

  31. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Fangraphs WAR is based off of FIP, which is the theoretical ERA cliff lee et al would have if there were no fielders involved. If you go by REAL LIFE CC probably is better because he pitches more and has almost the same aggregate performance in like 20 extra innings.

  32. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Edinson Volquez has been demoted to AAA by Cinncinati. How the mighty have fallen. Looks like it’s not just Hughes, but, Volquez, Santana, Ubaldo Jiminez, Danks. Latos, and Leake that have stumbled off of the “must have” pile..

  33. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Bronk Jeers – Is there some other measure of pitcher you wish to discuss? CC is not leading Lee is any measurable category.

    50 extra innings and only a difference of .05 ERA points. I’d take CC

  34. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Lee averages 218 innings per season and has been over 200 for… 5 of the last 6 years except for one injury shortened season.

  35. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Pitcher WAR is basically Real Dumb

  36. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    jerkface – that makes zero sense considering what you know about statistics.

    ERA? We just got Jerkface on record quoting ERA?

    Fantastic.

  37. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Bronx Jeers May 23rd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
    Ahhh …. WAR

    Forget I said anything.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    “WAR!!! HUUUHHH. What is it good for?

    Absolutely nothing.”

  38. Erin May 23rd, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    BloggingBombers Joba was sporting some Ricky Vaughn-like glasses in the clubhouse today. Said he’d put his contacts in to pitch, however. What a shame.

    ****
    we need a picture of him with his glasses on. ;)

  39. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    jerkface – that makes zero sense considering what you know about statistics.

    ERA? We just got Jerkface on record quoting ERA?

    Fantastic.

    What are we talking about? Who is better from that time period or who will have better stats going forward or whatever? FIP is a good predicative stat but it doesn’t tell us what happened on the field.

    Its like giving the batting title to the guy who had the best BABIP instead of the best batting average.

  40. Erin May 23rd, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Speaking of movies. Which movie will gross the most come years end?

    Transformers
    Cars 2
    Harry Potter
    X-MEN
    Aliens vs. Cowboys
    ??
    Add
    Kung Fu Panda 2
    Hangover 2

    ****************************

    Harry Potter. Definitely. :)

  41. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Basically, if you’re looking at WAR, the stat should tell us what happened that season. Don’t tell me who is theoretically better, tell me who was better. Even if being ‘better’ is just being ‘lucky’. Since batters get the benefit of luck in their WAR all the time.

    I like Joba going forward because of his FIP, but I’m certain a reliever with a worse FIP actually bettered him on the field in 2010.

  42. Erin May 23rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    JoeAuriemmaYES A-Rod is 0-11 against the Jays in ’11. His .149 BA in 16 Gs since the beginning of last season is his lowest vs. any opp. during that span

    JoeAuriemmaYES The good news is A-Rod’s 52 HRs vs. Toronto is 2nd most all-time vs. the Jays. Manny Ramirez hit 54 against the blue birds.

  43. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    jerkface what on earth are you talking about? Past or present doesn’t change the fact that ERA is a bogus stat when comparing pitchers.

    Just because it “already happened” doesn’t change the fact that plays in the field the pitcher had no control over changed the outcome of those games.

    Are you feeling OK?

  44. Bx is Burning May 23rd, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Isn’t CC way ahead of Lee in straight wins the last couple of years?

  45. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Wins, ERA…

    I’m done. I’ll find intelligent conversation elsewhere.

  46. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    jerkface what on earth are you talking about? Past or present doesn’t change the fact that ERA is a bogus stat when comparing pitchers.

    Ok eat this then, CC pitched 50 more innings and his xFIP is only .1 fippy doodles away from Cliff Lee. The point of this argument re: ERA is that Clay Buchholz is not the 2 ERA pitcher he was in 2010, but that doesn’t change the fact that he spent most of 2010 NOT GIVING UP RUNS. He would be suitably punished by WAR despite probably helping his team more than a pitcher with a sterling 2 FIP but 4 ERA.

  47. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    I’m sorry you can’t understand what I’m saying. I would take CC Sabathia’s superior innings and near identical total performance over theoretical cliff lee performance.

  48. Bx is Burning May 23rd, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    I’ll find intelligent conversation elsewhere.
    ————————————————-
    Please.

  49. Bronx Jeers May 23rd, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Bronk Jeers – Is there some other measure of pitcher you wish to discuss?

    ——————————————————————————————————————————————–

    Honestly I don’t get much deeper than ERA+.

  50. montyque May 23rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    His name is JOSE BAUTISTA, not JUAN BATISTA.

  51. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    I wish we were facing juan batista

  52. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    jerkface – you have that almost entirely backwards. Buchholz did nothing to help his team win, his TEAM and circumstances did… hence the ERA much lower than the FIP. The result doesn’t change the effect a pitcher had on the game. If you are talking about which pitcher gives you a better chance to win games, the lower FIP is ALWAYS the answer. The answer is never ERA (OK, I guess it could be if they played on the same team since the defense and park and scheduling factors would slightly neutralize).

    BJ – ERA+ is “adjusted ERA”. Adjusted for park factors and league average ERA.
    A flawed stat based on a flawed stat doesn’t equal a good stat, IMO.

  53. hardwired7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Edinson Volquez has been demoted to AAA by Cinncinati. How the mighty have fallen.

    ————–

    For Volquez and Ubaldo Jimenez, it’s the BBs that have killed them. Both have given up fewer hits than IP, but their BB/K ratios have tanked.

  54. Nick in SF May 23rd, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Good one, next you’ll say his name is DEREK JETER, not DON JOHNSON.

  55. P May 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Tex’s last 10 games ..

    9 hits, 9 strike outs, 4 walks .209 batting avg.. when do you consider moving him out of the 3 spot ?

  56. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    P.S. I went looking for intelligent conversation and found myself back here. The interwebs is a scary place full of Yankee hate :(

  57. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Erin,
    Great minds think alike.

    I thought our shortstops name was Don Juan?

    GB are you out there? Need to ask you something.

  58. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Wins, ERA…

    I’m done. I’ll find intelligent conversation elsewhere.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Not likely that you’d fit in there. I suggest that you hang out at http://www.BozoTheClown.com

    Start out with the lower life forms and work your way up to your level at Idiot.

  59. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Buchholz did nothing to help his team win, his TEAM and circumstances did

    Doesn’t change the fact that Buchholz is the one pitching those games where the other team didn’t score any runs. For the 2010 season, Buttholez should have a great WAR, since we don’t care about theoretical goodness, we only care about real goodness.

    You’re confusing predicative and narrative arguments. Daisuke Matsuzaka had one of the flukiest seasons ever but it helped the Red Sox more than a good FIP pitcher not living up to his periphs. Please understand this.

    I’ve already addressed the CC-lee argument in terms of FIP, and its even more of a slaughter if you go back to 07.

  60. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    GB7 – I’m sorry, shut up.

  61. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    WAR isn’t supposed to tell us who will be better. It should tell us who was better at a particular point in time. In 2010 Buchholz was better at stopping runs from scoring (helped by defense or not) than most other pitchers. The fact that pitcher WAR is based on FIP is a tragedy.

  62. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Ask away, SoS. If I don’t have an answer, I’m sure that Bill James disciples will look in their little pink books and make one up.

  63. LGY May 23rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    9 hits, 9 strike outs, 4 walks .209 batting avg.. when do you consider moving him out of the 3 spot ?

    —–

    Please not this again… :(

  64. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    What happened to coming in here and having NOT SO intelligent conversations. Like
    BEST ACTORS
    BEST THING TO PUT ON FRIES
    BEST 80′S MOVIES
    WORST LOSS 2004 VS. SOX OR 2001 VS. DBACKS
    BEST CARTOON EVER
    ETC.

  65. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    A batter can have a flukey good year with HR/FB% or BABIP and get a crazy good WAR. Even if qualitatively you’d say they aren’t a good bet to be good going forward. Pitcher WAR works in the opposite fashion, where you are rewarded more for merely piling up good secondary stats than actually not giving up runs.

    ERA can be really dumb in a lot of ways, but when you boil it up at some point you have to look at the actual runs which came across against the pitcher of record.

  66. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    jerkface – I was not under the impression it was the pitchers responsibility to live up to his FIP, but the team’s.

    FIP = walk rate, K rate, HR rate, innings.
    Pitcher controlled. Very simple.

    ERA = Basically everything else
    Outfielders dropping balls in the gap, throwing to the wrong base, umpires missing calls in the field, weather, catcher that can’t throw out baserunners… these things all change ERA and the pitcher has little to no control over them.

    If you go back and read the conversation we were having before you jumped in here, you’d see that I was asking for a better method of evaluating and comparing pitchers than WAR (since it was rejected outright and I am WELL AWARE of its limitations). ERA/ERA+ does not qualify so I’m still waiting.

  67. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    GB,
    Just found out yesterday that my father in law has parkinsins. He was in the Vietnam war and was around that yellow stuff(cant remember the name). My wife found out that if anyone was in that war, they can get extra help medically and extra income from being exposed to that stuff. Just wanted to know if you knew anything about it and if you were in that war. If so, thought i would give you the info on extra income that should probably be coming to you.

  68. Jerkface May 23rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    If you go back and read the conversation we were having before you jumped in here, you’d see that I was asking for a better method of evaluating and comparing pitchers than WAR (since it was rejected outright and I am WELL AWARE of its limitations). ERA/ERA+ does not qualify so I’m still waiting.

    There isn’t going to be a catch all stat for pitchers.

  69. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    jerkface – I know there isn’t, that is why I was asking BJ what he would use instead. He said ERA+, I sighed.

    It was not about Lee being better or worse than CC. We were talking about CC (not) opting out and his market value compared to Lee this past offseason.

    Then it got derailed.

  70. joeman May 23rd, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Sabathia likely to use opt-out; seek more years
    ————————–
    all on board for giving him 7 years

  71. P May 23rd, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    same people as usual calling everybody else stupid and dumb. I am going to stop myself now before I get in too deep again..

    Irreverent Discourse>>

    I guess your wearing the target tonight.. sure wish there was an ignore button. Perhaps talking about the Yankees is worthless here these days if you’re not a statistician .. because stats don’t ever ever mislead.

  72. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    P – I put the target on myself, because it’s BORING AS HECK around here.

  73. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    SoS, I assume that you’re referring to the chemical defoliant named “Agent Orange”? If so, that stuff was used everywhere, but, mostly in the central highlands and the heavily jungled areas. It caused a lot of things, including cancers and use of motor skills.

    I was there, but, so far, no after effects. The documentation for such things will take som digging, but, one of the best places to get assistance besides the Veterans Assistant in the phonebook for your area. Another great place to get help are the VFW and American Legion.

    I did try to get some assistance for being an ass, but, they looked into it and desided that was a pre-existing thing.

    Best of luck and best wishes to your father-in-law and you and Mrs. SoS. Parkinson’s is nasty business.

  74. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    SoS – I assume you’re referring to Agent Orange?

    Check this out… http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/b...../aono3.htm

  75. GreenBeret7 May 23rd, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    ***decided***

  76. Bronx Jeers May 23rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    ID,

    Bear with me I’m trying to understand this.

    I’m looking just at 2009-2010. Cliff Lee is better because he walked approx 1.47 batters less per 9 innings than CC.

    The other 2 factors are pretty close.

  77. P May 23rd, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    GB7,

    What is “agent orange” is that like GMO that they put on our food ? Whatcha talkin bout willis?

  78. SoS May 23rd, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    I did try to get some assistance for being an ass

    ========

    i have the same problem. I thought it was called being misunderstood? In all seriousness though.

    Thanks for the info. His hand shakes right now and is starting to forget things. Hope it doesnt move too fast. Only 62 years of age.

    I.E. thanks for the link.

  79. P May 23rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Wow, Joe Bautista is just ridiculous.. did this guy drink some superman kool aid or what.. he didn’t even hit that ball right.

    I watched the baseball movie The Natural with my dad over the weekend, and when Hobbs hit the HR into the lights I told my dad that if anyone can do that Bautista can..

  80. P May 23rd, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    I wish we had a #3 hitter like Bautista .. really really do.

  81. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    BJ – Basically. It’s not like they are worlds apart… very comparable players. Lee has been “controlling” it a little better and CC has been “winning it” a little better, if that’s a skill :)

    But who’s out there paying another Lee contract this year, last year there were 2 teams and a 3rd swooped in. This year there will be… 2 teams (that already have a rough estimate of what they wanted to pay an ace) and CC is going to opt out based on some mystery team driving up his price? I just don’t see it.

    I would be fine with them extending him to “stop him” from opting out, but I really don’t think it makes sense for him. Most of the big market teams are tied up or out of the running before the race even starts.

  82. Irreverent Discourse May 23rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    To further and drop this point…

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