Game 47: Yankees vs. Blue Jays
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on May 24, 2011 
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YANKEES (25-21)
Derek Jeter DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Russell Martin C
Nick Swisher RF
Brett Gardner LF
Eduardo Nunez SS
LHP CC Sabathia (4-3, 3.06)
Sabathia vs. Blue Jays
BLUE JAYS (24-23)
Yunel Escobar SS
Corey Patterson LF
Jose Bautista RF
Juan Rivera 1B
J.P. Arencibia C
Aaron Hill 2B
Edwin Encarnacion DH
Rajai Davis CF
John McDonald 3B
LHP Ricky Romero (4-4, 3.10)
Romero vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES Network My9 and MLB Network
WEATHER: Things have cleared nicely here at the stadium. It actually feels really nice out, and the sun was shining throughout batting practice.
UMPIRES: HP John Hirschbeck, 1B Wally Bell, 2B Laz Diaz, 3B Scott Barry
YOU AIN’T GOIN’ NOWHERE: Yankees pitchers have faced 46 batters with the bases loaded this season. In those situations, the Yankees staff has allowed a .179 batting average (third-best in the Majors) and a .196 on-base percentage (best in the Majors).
IT’S ALL OVER NOW: Yankees relievers have a 2.63 ERA since April 7, the lowest in the American League and second-lowest in the Majors during that stretch (San Diego has a 2.28 bullpen ERA). Since April 4, Yankees relievers have never allowed more than three earned runs in a game.
ONE MORE CUP OF COFFEE: After not pitching during his first call-up from Triple-A, long reliever Hector Noesi has now appeared twice in a week, pitching a total of seven innings with one run. He pitched three innings last night.
DON’T THINK TWICE, IT’S ALRIGHT: After slumping for a couple of weeks, Alex Rodriguez is now hitting .484 with three home runs in his past seven games. He’s had five multi-hit games in that span.
OUTLAW BLUES: Brett Gardner has been successful in his past three steal attempts. Before this stretch, he was successful on only one of his previous four stolen base attempts.
BALLAD OF A THIN MAN: Today is Bartolo Colon’s 38th birthday.
MY BACK PAGES: On this date in 1936, the Yankees set an all-time franchise record with 25 runs in a game. Tony Lazzeri had three home runs, including two grand slams, and set an American League record with 11 RBI.
UPDATE, 7:28 p.m.: Wish I had a Dylan song for every note I post tonight, but I doubt that’s going to happen. Russell Martin just scorched a home run for a 1-0 Yankees lead in the second inning. That came after two nice plays by Brett Gardner in the top of the inning.
UPDATE, 8:03 p.m.: Sabathia looked really sharp in his previous outing, but now he’s back to kind of what he looked like the week or so before. He’s not getting crushed, but the Blue Jays are able to scratch out some hits and some runs.
UPDATE, 8:05 p.m.: Now the defense is doing him no favors. I think Teixeira was right to throw to first — don’t think he could have gotten the out at home — but obviously Cano’s got to catch the thing. It’s 4-1 Jays.
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: This has quickly become one of those games in which the Yankees just don’t look very good. Sabathia has been hitable, the defensive has made some mistakes and the offense hasn’t done much of anything since Martin’s home run.
UPDATE, 9:15 p.m.: Look a that, some life from the Yankees offense. Robinson Cano’s two-out double and Russell Martin’s two-out single have pulled the Yankees within 4-3 in the eighth inning.
The Yanks have been scuffling, but the times, they are a changin.
Soriano is a liar and a thief.
# mick May 24th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Grateful Dead did that song really, really well.
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They did everything well with Jerry.
# mick May 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Never could figure out why the Dead were such an underrated band.
Maybe the name, maybe the drug culture …
I always figured if a band could develop a cult following like theirs , they had to be good.
Not many bands have.
Nobody covers Dylan like The Dead.
As a lifelong Yankee fan, “I Believe In You”.
And finally, no “A Hard Rain’s Gonna Fall” into “Buckets Of Rain”
losing Soriano for 12-18 months, which is a real possibility now, is just terrible.
the look of the bullpen has gone from downright scary to just ‘above average’ in no time.
Feliciano should have been a very good lefty and Soriano the best setup man in the game.
Joba and Robertson are obviously capable of being great, but that doesn’t take away from the point that with Soriano, the pen could have been an embarrassment of riches.
really sucks….
He doesn’t drive the ball…..but he does drive an Edge!!!
MY BACK PAGES: On this date in 1936, the Yankees set an all-time franchise record with 25 runs in a game. Tony Lazzeri had three home runs, including two grand slams, and set an American League record with 11 RBI.
GB–how was the weather that day?
Tex looks so much better from the right side.
nice hit
Hallelujah – Teix went line drive opposite field. Praise the Lord.
Oh they didn’t score in the first inning. We’re doomed, I tell you, doomed.
wow he made Alex look bad there… missed strike 2 by 2 feet
Take that, all you Gardner haters.
What an overrated fourth outfielder.
Gardner saves a lot of runs with his defense….lots of balls would drop in for hits if someone else was out there….
headhunting for what?
Some nice pitching to Cano.
My Favorite Martin!
MARTIN! YES!!!
That pitch to Cano was obvioulsy to try and intimidate him. But it worked because Cano was thinking about that pitch so he swung at ball 2. If the Jays want to continue that CC will have no problem hitting one of their guys.
Lay Russell Lay, lay that ball across that big blue fence…
Chad , you dont seem like a deadhead lol
That inning was why you play Gardner in LF instead of Jones. If Jones was playing LF the Jays most likely score a run.
so what’s the over/under on the yankees scoring anymore runs tonight
Captain ClutchMay 24th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
That inning was why you play Gardner in LF instead of Jones. If Jones was playing LF the Jays most likely score a run.
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I agree Gardner is one of if not the best defense players on our team. I would have him out there almost every night especially since his bat has picked up. He is a real asset
If Chad can find a way to work Motorpsycho Nightmare into the game thread, he’d be my hero.
O’Neil is funny …wants to throw a ball hard to Kay to see if he can catch it…
Last year Cano gets that ball
sloppy
Cano has been brutal defensively.
Cano’s glove again?
Where’s Ruben Rivera when you need him?
CC is only an ace va the Orioles it seems.
It’s amazing how many issues the Yanks have with the Jays considering most of their lineup is a bunch of scrubs.
Meanwhile, Soriano has become the new Pavano .. and it even rhymes.. go figure !
i was saying that Cano shoulda got the golden glove in ’09 and he got it last yr ’10, what happened this year….he looks horrible at 2B
I don’t know what Cano’s problem is but I really hope that he gets tomorrow’s game off. He has played in every single game except maybe 1 or 2. Fatigue is probably an issue but not the whole story.
Kome on Kaptain….Kripes!
Please, I beg you to move Jeter out of 1 spot and Girardi down to club house attendant ! P-L-E-A-S-E !
ID’s soriano history left out his other injured years.
2002 – 47 IP
2003 – 53 IP
2004 – Injured
2005 – Injured
2006 – 60 IP
2007 – 72 IP
2008 – Injured
2009 – 75 IP
2010 – 62 IP
2011 – INJURED
He had TJS in 04 and had elbow soreness among other things in 08.
How bout some patience here cano?
small ball sucks, how about an extra base hit?
the yankees as a team have forgot patience. Remember how patient they were last year smh
Happy birthday for Rivera….talk about a lucky grab…
I really starting to not enjoy watching this team play.. it’s so frustrating.
I guess Cano isn’t willing to see more than 2 pitches in one at bat tonight. When is he going to actually swing because he thinks he can drive the ball instead of just hacking away because his bat can reach the pitch?!?! He is lack of patience is so frustrating to watch.
That’s our ace. No location.
geez….since when could Juan Riveria rake….Yankees pitching makes him look phenom
R u kidding me?
CC has to start hitting his spots or he will get tattooed. It would be nice to see him dominate a team besides the Orioles.
Unreal. This team sucks. Last 112 games they are a 500 team. Just gotta accept that this is a 200mil dollar 3rd place team at best this year.
CC keeps missing his spot over and over
CC not dealing. Still think he’ll get more years opting out?
I really wonder if he is tipping his pitches. The Jays seem to be ready for the pitch and location.
Is Girardi going to have CC load the bases, too?
Losing streak again?? Will the offense pick him up?? Stay tuned!
WTF?
this is painful….mostly because you figure the Yanks can’t come back
Hey CC these aren’t the Orioles.
Our ace is not much better than colon
He really might be tipping them, I’ve never seen a team able to stay back on CC’s breaking pitches like they are
This team sucks
oh robbie……
This is like a little league team
See, cano sucks. HOF?
Lol
Wow — they look like bumblers out there.
aahh ridiculous!!! utterly ridiculous.
Ugg. Boy the Yankees look pathetic.
CC should have sent a payback pitch to McDonald’s back.
I would be Pissed if I were at the Stadium….at least at home I can turn this garbage off…..
how many balls is robbie gonna drop this year
from gold glove to stone glove?
Something isn’t right with Cano’s focus..
You knew that was coming…And the way that the Yanks are hitting….
If I was Girardi I would pull Cano from the game
This team is not fun to watch lately. Not at all.
Hey Kay — what a way to state the obvious, “the defenses has not been that sharp”…ya think?
Goodnight! Maybe the Yankees will back CC with his usual 7 runs per game.
Maybe they wanna us focus on NBA instead
games over this heartless team wont come back
This lineup only hits homers n this isn’t Capuano.
Let this fat pig opt out tonight. See who cares?
Good thing Girardi went out to the mound…
Unfortunately CC only looks good against the Orioles. He is getting beat up by a bunch of scrubs tonight.
Just another reason to ditch Andruw.
Like clockwork. Team is down and the bridge jumpers fill the board with their usual nonsense.
Grand Salami coming up
DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Good thing Girardi went out to the mound…
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The team does seem to find him truly inspiring, don’t they?
cano with another bad bad play. closed his mitt early!!!really what is going on with him?????????
A single here would do the trick
Haha. Wow. I am actually jealous watching the jays. They are better than the yanks in every aspect of the game. This one is over.
Wow. CC sucking big tonight. Who’s left in the pen?!? Noesi again?
“Like clockwork. Team is down and the bridge jumpers fill the board with their usual nonsense.”
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yup.
the Yankees wouldn’t have any players left if the board had the power to fire them every time they didn’t have a good game.
Lot’s of cheap hits that inning….what can you do?
Like clockwork. Team is down and the bridge jumpers fill the board with their usual nonsense.
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No hitting, no defense. pitching no great. not winning at home. what would you call it
see what happens when you put the ball in play with RISP.. the strikeout happy yankees maybe can learn something.
sportsfans don’t look now but Cano is regressing big time… that error there is inexcusable plain and simple. that was routine…….
Either Cano has ADD or there is something going on in his life that is causing these issues. This is more than just making a throwing error here or there. Besides the errors there is also no excuse for having zero patience at the plate and basically mailing in at bats.
Time for the offense to get back into the game!!! Gag.
Is there ANYBODY who needs the Baltimore Orioles MORE than CC Sabathia???
I’d love to see his splits when he’s NOT facing the O’s.
PRAY he opts out of his contract. The Yankees would have to be morons to extend him beyond the four years they already owe him.
Someone needs to put thee fit in Cano’s ….
watch the Yanks mail it in for the rest of the game
“No hitting, no defense. pitching no great. not winning at home. what would you call it”
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one bad inning from the team currently in first place in May ?
Too bad the Yanks can’t see Romero’s changeup like the Sox do. They never swing at that crap in the dirt and they absolutely own him.
Can swish get a hit?
Guess another 123 inning
syd_cash May 24th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
watch the Yanks mail it in for the rest of the game
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What do you mean, the REST of the game???
great at bat swisher
Nope.
You can’t point to any one thing with the Yanks right now, more like 20 !
Meaning about 5 guys are doing well.
Grotesque. Keep tryin to hit home runs guys. Seems to work vs teams like baltimore and the mutts.
Unfortunately for this offense 4-1 is like 10-1
Hey BD, Hey Other Phil –I see this place is a wasteland again. Just thought I check in.
What will they do when Swish and Jorge are both under .200? What will they do?
can the Yanks whole team get the two days off for a mental break….because we need that. Also about to go on one of our worst/brutal road trips of the season playing like crap
Scuffling all over. So much for the rotation carrying the team. No more mulligans.
Yeah 123
BD (Boston Dave) May 24th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
“No hitting, no defense. pitching no great. not winning at home. what would you call it”
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one bad inning from the team currently in first place in May ?
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That’s one way to look at it…
Another is that this is a team rocketing towards ONE GAME OVER .500 AT HOME and we’re SIX WEEKS into the season.
If you think this is just “one bad inning,” you have not been watching this team play much this season.
Hollywood must think this is the postseason….
what a great inning for the bombers
Yay offense!!
Standard 1-2-3 inning.
I’m afraid this is what we are to suspect from our 2011 Yankees. Frustrating and disappointing to say the least. Older players appear to not have it and others are simply unproductive.
Being in first place means very little right now. The Yankees can mathmatically be in last place in just a few days. The only reason they’re in first is because of the mediocrity of the rest of the division.
The staudium sucks, the fans suck and have no energy even when thry win and the team sucks. What is left, oh the food is over priced and not that good.
Can CC settle down?
“No hitting, no defense. pitching no great. not winning at home. what would you call it”
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one bad inning from the team currently in first place in May ?
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youre out of your mind if you think it is only one bad inning
I feel so much better knowing this team is in first place. (sarcasm)
“The only reason they’re in first is because of the mediocrity of the rest of the division.”
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I think the AL East is one of the best in baseball, if not THE best.
if anybody read this thread, they’d think the Yanks were way in last place, not first.
is there really anything else to call it but whining?
lots of whining and crying in here. man up and stop being babies.
I feel bad for the starting pitchers, they know if they give up 3-4 runs it’s most likely the game. The Yanks really haven’t done much against starting pitchers recently it’s been like 1 run and usually on a homerun. They have to hope that a bullpen guy doesn’t have it.
It would hurt alot less if the payroll was not over 200 million. If the Indians and Rays can do it right why oh why cant we?
only guys with #’s to be proud of and you need to stretch this list is; martin, grandy, robertson, mo, colon, and nova and many on this list are because of low expectations.
grandy hitting for a lot of power but BA is nothing to right home about and smae for martin.
colon they got for nothing and nova is a rookie.
dreadful overall performance and this team leads the league in runs scored. ouch
If they signed Lee, they were still a bad team. Because the offense is so unreliable.
If the Indians and Rays can do it right why oh why cant we?
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Quick how often have either of those teams been to the WS or playoffs in the past 15 years
Anyone seen our ace?
Yep.
I think many of us just want to see them play better. The number or errors and thoughtless swings are tough to watch. The rose-colored glasses approach isn’t realistic either. At least Trisha isn’t here to make it worse.
Go CC!
BD (Boston Dave)May 24th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
“The only reason they’re in first is because of the mediocrity of the rest of the division.”
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I think the AL East is one of the best in baseball, if not THE best.
if anybody read this thread, they’d think the Yanks were way in last place, not first.
is there really anything else to call it but whining?
lots of whining and crying in here. man up and stop being babies.
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let’s rephrase that to…because the rest of the division got off to a slow start (and are now all playing really well) and that’s why we are in first right now. But its a real problem that we can’t beat the team in our division…except the O’s
It seems like every inning they have 2 guys on base and the rbi hit never ever comes. They either strikeout, swing for a homerun or swing at the 1st or 2nd pitch because they are so over anxious.
“I think many of us just want to see them play better.”
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I agree.
but how is whining like a baby going to help that happen?
at some point, you accept that teams win games and lose games… and at the end of 162 games, you hope the team won enough to make the playoffs.
I’d say the Yanks have done a pretty good job with that over the past 15 years, despite the incessant whining of people on a Yankees blog, not because of it.
Pitching, which depends on good defense a lot, hasn’t been bad overall. Only 2 guys with over
4.00 ERA’s.
Hitting and defense are in a race right now to see whose worse ( first )
Poor, poor, Soriano ( $35 Million ) Doesn’t seem like he has thrown anything like last year in any outing to me. I mean, his “stuff” just hasn’t been there.
May turn out to be another Pavano Yank.
Granderson has been unreal. Too bad he is the only one consistent and they don’t 3 or 4 more hitters in the lineup to help him.
Tex hr
Yanks are 4 games over .500. The only other division leader with a worse record are the Rangers. Even the NL leaders have better records than the Yankees. First place or third, they’re not playing like a first place team. They have mental errors. Pitching woes. Cold cold hitters. Whiney DH’s. A shaky bullpen and there’s no sign of anyone getting over the hump. Even Arod is a singles hitter lately. It is what it is. A mediocre team as it stands now. I accept it.
when jeter gets the ball out of the infield you are happy. imagine 3.5 more years of this!!!!!
lucky the yanks did not insult him, and logically tell him we all get old and performance goes down.
did not want to offend the king and his non paying minions.
3 yrs with an option at $17 mill!!!! his performance is at a $6 mill pay rate or less……….
you think Derek will refund the yanks????
The AL East may be the best division talent wise, but because of that, the teams all beat up on each other. What you’re left with is 5 teams with near .500 records, and the possibility of dropping from first place to last place in a matter of one week.
This is why it hurts when the Yankees drop games to the White Sox, Tigers, Royals, etc. You need to fatten up against those teams because all of the division head-to-head matchups are tough (except the Orioles, it seems).
On a side note, if you take away the Yankees vs. Orioles games, the O’s actually have the better record. That’s not good.
ahh Grandy
syd_cash,
so…. you’re saying that teams go on streaks? you’re right.
the season is 162 games long. this isn’t the first time the yankees have played poorly in some games over the past 15 years.
if making the playoffs 15 out of 16 years warrants the constant complaining from some people here every season when they lose a few games in April or May, what does that mean for non-Yankee fans?
Bad Granderson
Awesome!
And bad baserunners.
Getting picked off down 4-1. Good baseball.
baserunning and fielding compared to last year is 2 different worlds. gardners success on the bases. yech..
this is horrible baseball game in and out
Grandy doesn’t trust Tex?
Lol
Ok, later, NBA time
tough break for Colorado:
“Jorge De La Rosa has been diagnosed with a complete tear of the ulnar collateral ligament in his left elbow.”
“I think many of us just want to see them play better.”
All of us want to see them play better.
Intelligent baseball fans realize this is like only mile 3 of a marathon.
Wining and making proclamations of doom and gloom is an insult to our baseball inteligence.
But carry on- it’s kind of funny when MG puts you on the wall of shame.
Yeesh. Ugly game. But all the Yankee games seem to be ugly this year. This team as currently constructed doesn’t have what it takes to make it to the playoffs. Whether it not they get another pitcher may be moot by the time the trade deadline arrives.
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sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Yanks are 4 games over .500. The only other division leader with a worse record are the Rangers. Even the NL leaders have better records than the Yankees. First place or third, they’re not playing like a first place team. They have mental errors. Pitching woes. Cold cold hitters. Whiney DH’s. A shaky bullpen and there’s no sign of anyone getting over the hump. Even Arod is a singles hitter lately. It is what it is. A mediocre team as it stands now. I accept it.”"
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Well said. Without some changes in the batting order and some young fresh blood, I think well generally be a mediocre team with a flash of power.. nothing more.
*whining*
Wasn’t it Teixiera who said, “let them think we are underdogs, we’ll show ‘em” at the beginning of the season?
Yeah Mark, YOU’re sure showing THEM!
You would assume that Arod, Tex and Cano will get more consistent. But honestly I really don’t see anyone else that is struggling now that I think will improve.
Pitching hasn’t been the problem. Our worst starting pitcher has a 4.29 ERA…all other starters are at 4.00 and below, and pretty much average 6+ innings. Chad posted the stats for the bullpen…it’s been second best in the majors since the first week.
The problem is the defense has been awful, resulting in a lot of unearned runs and the pitchers having to throw extra pitches. And the offense has been dreadful when they don’t jump out ahead. They have just 2 wins when trailing in the 6th inning, and that’s with a bunch of home games, where the Yankees are supposed to be built to come from behind (great bullpen + power hitters).
Here’s another piece if irony, the Sox may have lost 2/5 of their rotation and despite that were on an 8 game winning streak. That’s what good teams do. Find ways to win. So far in 2011 – unlike 2009 – the Yankees have not shown they can do that without the longball. In 09, the yanks were a good team. Capable of beating you in a number of different ways. This team, can’t seem to string together 3 hits in a row with the exception of the 8 run outburst the other night.
BD,
Saying the team is playing sloppy/ugly baseball is not whining. It’s an observation.
Let’s face it, we’re not playing good ball and we’re bound to get hot sooner or later.
Hope it’s not later !!!
Defense has to get better than this cold streak, or we’re in for a tough yr.
My opinion on player moves though, is we’re gonna need some. And hope it’s not too late also.
Prolly 4 or 5.
Swisher has to improve. No one’s expecting last year’s numbers but a typical Swisher year gives you a .365 OBP and 25 homeruns from the #6 hole.
got home just in time to see Tex walk on 5 pitches, then alex hit the first pitch into a double play.
at some point sloppy play has to be on the manager, just a little.
The patience from these guys is absolutely putrid. There is no reason for Arod to swing at the 1st pitch there, Eepecially after the pitcher just walked a batter. When they fall behind they get over anxious and just mail it in.
And of course hit into more double plays than any yankees team I can remember.
Here’s another piece if irony, the Sox may have lost 2/5 of their rotation and despite that were on an 8 game winning streak. That’s what good teams do. Find ways to win.
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Is there some kind of joke where the Sox ‘find ways to win’ and the Yankees don’t and they end up with the same record???
Making Ronero look like Cy young. Typical of the HR or bust offense.
the non-Ace ace showing up again I see
Keep swinging away at the 1st pitch
after tex’s LEADOFF walk, there were what, 4 pitches seen the rest of the inning?
U can make a case we got worst startung pitching in the division. Cc aj colon. Not scaring many teams.
When the Yans are losing in a game they are a pitcher’s best friend. A walk and a double in one inning but 2 batters swing at the 1st pitch. I have never seen a team swing at the 1st pitch like these guys do.
U can make a case we got worst startung pitching in the division. Cc aj colon. Not scaring many teams.
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DO you watch the games? The starting pitching is the least of this teams problems.
“Here’s another piece if irony, the Sox may have lost 2/5 of their rotation and despite that were on an 8 game winning streak”
That’s because the 2 starters the Sox lost were terrible and responsible for almost a third of their losses. They’re lucky Lackey and Matsuzaka went and got themselves injured because otherwise they would have been forced to keep throwing them out there.
Besides, the Yankees lost Hughes and Soriano, their #2 starter and set-up man, and filled in those holes flawlessly. The problem is the guys who are healthy aren’t producing.
What separates this team from past Yankee teams is they do not grind out at bats. Starters r in a long time. They don’t pound bullpens. They r a bat short for sure. Maybe 2.
We’re pitching better than the results we’re getting. To a pretty fair degree.
Nick in SF — if you’re around, do you have a wager on when Jeter hits his 3,000th? What’s your guess as to the date?
And Beckett 5 innings, 1 run in Cleveland. There’s an ace.
@ac1. See how that holds up in July. The game is about great SP. We don’t have it.
“after tex’s LEADOFF walk, there were what, 4 pitches seen the rest of the inning?”
The goal is not to see pitches it is to score runs.
BTW– Toronto’s pen has a much better ERA than their starters.
matt1766 May 24th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Like clockwork. Team is down and the bridge jumpers fill the board with their usual nonsense.
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No hitting, no defense. pitching no great. not winning at home. what would you call it
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I would call it the 7th inning…they still play 9 IIRC
This team is collectively hitting .252. That’s not going to get you many wins if/when the power surge dissipates.
after tex’s LEADOFF walk, there were what, 4 pitches seen the rest of the inning?”
The goal is not to see pitches it is to score runs.
BTW– Toronto’s pen has a much better ERA than their starters.
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Seeing pitches is about more than getting to the pen.
its about getting a feel for the pitcher and how he is pitching, thus squaring up on pitches.
You telling me all of this not taking pitches crap is working for us?
Think I’ll just watch the rest of the game.
Wang is Taiwan,
I wasn’t directing anything to you.
But if you scroll through this board and read many of the other posts, you know what I’m talking about. It’s pitiful. Every freakin time the Yankees lose it’s more of the same… as if the Yanks weren’t going to lose 65-70 games this season.
Nick has Jeter’s 300th hit to be a double or HR, I believe but not the date.
I bet on it being a single
“The game is about great SP. We don’t have it.”
Then the Yankees haven’t had great starting pitching for about a decade. yet they still managed to average 95 wins all these years?
“You telling me all of this not taking pitches crap is working for us?”
I am telling you that it’s the 7th inning and and they are down by 3.
Taking pitches is not a concern at this point, get it.
3000th*
The six had a horrible April. But they’re scorching in may and that trend is probably going to continue. The yanks have been floundering for over a month now with no signs of getting out of whatever funk they’re in. Come end of June – if things don’t change, the yanks will still be sitting around 4 or 5 games over .500 looking up at the red sox.
BTW–as far as Bob Dylan covers go, mark me down for Eddie Vedder
Masters of War
The Times They Are A Changing
Sox. Not six.
All right Brett! There is the start to our comeback!
When they are losing you never get the feeling that they will come back. Even if they are only losing by 1 or 2 runs. Most of the time they go down 1,2,3, or they will get guys on base but can never get a big hit. This team just doesn’t have the magic so far because there are too many guys having bad years.
Yes but the core four weren’t on the wrong side of 30 ten years ago either. It’s nit jet strong SP. Team as a whole is starting to show decline. Some more than others. Much more.
Not just. Stupid iPhone.
The six had a horrible April. But they’re scorching in may and that trend is probably going to continue. The yanks have been floundering for over a month now with no signs of getting out of whatever funk they’re in. Come end of June – if things don’t change, the yanks will still be sitting around 4 or 5 games over .500 looking up at the red sox.
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Why is it that the Red Sox will continue to play well and the Yankees won’t? Would you have said the same thing about the Red Sox in april? If not, why not? If yes, why did you change?
How sad is it that a game like this almost seems out of reach for the Yankees to win?
# GoldGlove9486 May 24th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
And Beckett 5 innings, 1 run in Cleveland. There’s an ace.
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Josh pitching well is a surprise to me
All right Nunie! There is the second part to our comeback!
Give Beckett time….
Lets see how great he looks toward the end of the summer before people act like he is better than anything we can throw out there.
Jeter please hit the ball in the air
The lineup needs ajolt. Just put the optimal lineup put there. A 300 obp can’t hit 1.
Stupid Nunez not working the count.
Come on Derek!
Even Chad can tell:
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: This has quickly become one of those games in which the Yankees just don’t look very good. Sabathia has been hitable, the defensive has made some mistakes and the offense hasn’t done much of anything since Martin’s home run.
double steal?
If u think Becketts not an ace u shouldn’t be commenting on baseball.
what’s sad is that I have no confidence in the top of our order minus Grandy
Let the Red Sox celebrate in May…we’ll celebrate in November.
Shocked girardi isn’t bunting
You only swing early in the count when a pitcher is throwing a lot of strikes. That’s what the Blue Jays did against Colon in the 6th inning yesterday.
But Romero has walked a couple of batters, been missing high with his fastball, and throwing a lot of changeups in the dirt. That’s not a pitcher you hack away against.
If u think Becketts not an ace u shouldn’t be commenting on baseball.
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I think Beckett WAS an ace.
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m
Update, 8:57
The tying run is up to bat.
BD,
I didn’t think you were honestly, but I do get frustrated and want to be able to get it out — it just happens to be expressed on this board.
I would LOVE for Jete’s 3,000 to be a double (anything but a dribbler). I think Nick may be watching basketball at this point — I’ve no doubt he’s invested in that $.
Too bad the Yanks can’t hit these pitches on the outside corner to RF like the Jays did to CC
All I’m saying is that this team has to work harder to do the same things it did two years ago easily. Nothing is coming easy to this team. SP. hitting. Defense.
Does grass have a rivalry with a lawnmower?
Jorge Vazquez…..17 homers and waiting.
Romero at about 98 pitches
Bronx Jeer–you are one funny guy! I enjoy your sense of humor.
wow…….
Jeter – lol
typical…
The tying run is up to bat.
And?
Tangled Up in Blue
“And when finally the bottom fell out
I became withdrawn
The only thing I knew how to do
Was to keep on keeping on”
countdown to YankeesNMore?
5-4-3-2-1
Shoot. With the way Romero was heaving out there, I thought Jeter might have a chance.
All right Derek! There is the third part to our comeback! Clearing the bases for Grandy and heart of order.
Where have you gone, Derek Jeter?
WELL DONE AS USUAL, JETER!
WOW that was really surprising….
“All I’m saying is that this team has to work harder to do the same things it did two years ago easily. Nothing is coming easy to this team. SP. hitting. Defense.”
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you mean the same season the Yanks started 0-8 against the Red Sox?
were the Yanks in 1st place in the AL East on May 24th, 2009?
loooooong season.
Nada. That’s what.
Nice hitting there.
Too bad we don’t Rajai instead of Gardner because he would of stole 3rd base to stay out of the DP
What will it take to bar Gardner leadoff?
You started it Bojo.
hardwired7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Tangled Up in Blue
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Well played.
you mean the same season the Yanks started 0-8 against the Red Sox?
were the Yanks in 1st place in the AL East on May 24th, 2009?
loooooong season.
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agreed it feels worse than it is, however back then, they didnt play nearly as many home games this early in the year…
Even the most diehard Jeter supporters such as myself can’t help but be frustratd by that. A strikeout woukd have been preferable to that.
Ace May 24th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
What will it take to bar Gardner leadoff?
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The only inning that would matter is the first one.
The RISP will find Jeter no matter where he is in the lineup.
Jeter is fine he just shouldn’t be hitting 1 or 2. He’s a 9 hitter at this point. Nothing to be ashamed of.
I’m waiting to break out my John Holmes jokes…Don’t fail me now Yanks!
Didn’t we get like 11 runs off of Romero last year? And this will be the SECOND time he wins at Yankee Stadium in 2011.
That figure A GIDP by Jeter. This shows you that the Yankees need a bonfide DH and a lead-off hitter.
“And?”
That sucked. For all the doom and gloom, they had a chance to tie it in the 7th.
With the 8th and 9th still to come.
Susyn Waldman sounds like a bridge jumper tonight…
Just changed the channel in time to see DJ dp
I don’t doubt that every Yankee player is playing his best. At the same time something has to happen to shake up the status quo, whether a trade, or call up, or some benchings. This team is better than it is playing. Girardi seems unable, IMO, to motivate the players. There is a lack of urgency. I’m a frustrated long time fan. The Yankees will always be my team but that doesn’t mean things don’t have to change.
not a word about jeter in the clutch by the announcers. he is horrible in the clutch.
look at his #’s.. you cannot make this up. arod dp first pitch and jeter anpther ground ball shocking.
the jeter lemming crew, they think it is 1998 and if you think anything bad about jeter you are not a yankee fan. it is like hitting a guy 4th who is batting 220 with no power and slower then molasses.
risp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why this team is having such a hard time scoring runs. They’re not even as good as they usually are at home. Road games are going to be close to unbearable.
Derek has been in more DPs than Jenna Jamieson.
Ac1. Please. The leadoff hitter sets the table for lineup and most importantly gets the most ab’s in the game. Explain to us how having a 300 obp get more ab’s than someone going 400?? Don’t hurt yourself.
Surprised they didn’t steal or hit and run. 2 of the fastest runners on the team and no movement?
This team can`t win at home, Breakup this bunch of Losers pronto.
Grandy is going to start us off here on the comeback trail.
rip risp
Ace May 24th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Ac1. Please. The leadoff hitter sets the table for lineup and most importantly gets the most ab’s in the game. Explain to us how having a 300 obp get more ab’s than someone going 400?? Don’t hurt yourself.
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You are whining about the double play in the 7th inning like it mattered that Jeter was hitting first.
Gardner was batting first remember? He has a wonderful .100 average while he was there.
Batting at the bottom keeps his average up.
Honestly who do we see improving in this lineup besides Cano, Arod and Tex? The struggling people are Jeter, Posada, Jones and Swish.
Jeter is what he is now
Posada and Jones don’t have much left
Swish has been dreadful and had an awful year with the W.Sox and it looks like he is just repeating that year
Doesn’t matter how long it is. Jeter can’t lift the ball anymore. Posada can’t hit. Swisher either. Long season just means it’ll be more if them same for the next couple of months. Colon isn’t going to be great all year. Garcia will eventually start to get hit. Nova is what he is. Hughes probably won’t see 95 again unless he’s driving his Porsche. The yanks are an aging team and the cracks are starting to show. Montero or Vazquez should make an appearance. Or some other roster shake up.
How girardi didn’t try to steal with them or hit n run is on him. Knowing jeter is a grounder machine. When u want him to manage,…..
ac1,
true – still think it’s way too early to be this down on the yanks.
they do look terrible – but I still consider them favorites to make the playoffs.
the fact that there are fewer truly weak teams in the game is going to lead to closer division races. gotta get used to that.
TheStraw May 24th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Even the most diehard Jeter supporters such as myself can’t help but be frustratd by that. A strikeout woukd have been preferable to that.
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I did feel more hope as I saw that we still had 2 outs left with Jeter up. He’s been up a lot recently with guys on base and 2 outs (or maybe it just seems like that…).
I wonder if Jete continues this way all season if he’ll really play out his additional years? He has so much pride.
but jeter is hitting first not 9th that is the problem.
again all he cares about winning jeter should go into the stupid managers office and say move me down for the benefit of the team. I will not hold my breath for that move……
jeez
“Jeter is fine he just shouldn’t be hitting 1 or 2. He’s a 9 hitter at this point. Nothing to be ashamed of.”
Tell that to Jorge Posada. You people can complain about Jeter batting leadoff all you want. We’ve already seen that he will never be moved down in the order. Posada got moved, complained and hasn’t been penciled in there since.
And here we come
This team has had the easiest schedule in league thru 50 games. Most home games. No WC trip. And they r basically 500. Only gets tougher.
Love that guy.
see that’s what my boy Granderson would’ve done if he had the opportunity to come up last inning…so sad he;s the only one
Boycott the team until changes asre made.
comet May 24th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I don?t doubt that every Yankee player is playing his best. At the same time something has to happen to shake up the status quo, whether a trade, or call up, or some benchings. This team is better than it is playing. Girardi seems unable, IMO, to motivate the players. There is a lack of urgency. I?m a frustrated long time fan. The Yankees will always be my team but that doesn?t mean things don?t have to change.
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Yes. This team has looked out of sync since last August. I would love to think they can suddenly get hot and reel off a bunch of wins, but I really can’t see it at the moment. They need a shake-up of some sort, maybe call someone up from Triple A, Montero, Vazquez, etc., shake up the line-up a bit. Sticking with the status quo when they have been slumping now for more than three weeks seems unwise to me at this point.
Can’t fire the team, but they can fire The Binder, if that’s what it takes to wake up the team.
Ace, just to finish that Jeter thing, I actually agree Jeter should not be batting first.
But im saying, i dont think it matters at this point.
Tex with the usual at bat. I would love to see Granderson bat 3rd or 5th. It seems like his great hitting is getting some what wasted because he never gets up with guys on base.
that’s the best Tex can contribute….that’s his best effort…he was really trying (i’m not being sarcastic)
Tex has turned into Giambi.
Granderson should hit in the first three spots in the batting order.
“Boycott the team until changes asre made.”
Ok you start first. We will catch up with you outside the blog.
Tex with the usual at bat
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The top RISP hitters are Tex, Granderson, Gardner, and Martin
Tex is not that good. Pitchers figured him out in the 2009 ALCS and really never looked back.
Girardi is still our genius.
The 2009 Yankees had all kinds of problems early on, but at least they dominated at home. Also, throughout April they were without Arod, and his return sparked a 9-game winning streak.
This Yankees team is struggling at home, which will make it harder to gain ground later when they play most of their games on the road. And their entire offense is healthy. The players who are injured (Hughes, Feliciano, Soriano) have no timetable to return. There’s no spark to look forward to…they’re stuck with what they have.
This team just isn’t very good. Too many players in decline and no life whatsoever. Their performance at home is awful. Don’t get your hopes up.
This is really embarrassing….
That looked like a desparation swing.
That was just a ridiculous at bat by Alex. Whatever happened to swinging at strikes?
Why won’t any of these players call themselves out in the post game? They’ll talk about how tough Romero is, and how they have to come back fighting tomorrow.
YES, please take a shot on Kelvin Long.
Sux and Rays are both winning – if that holds up we will be in third place, a half game out of 4th place and we’ll have a 10-13 record this month including 4-8 at home.
But hey! We’re king of the offensive stat book! Don’t worry Yankee fans, be happy!
Ac1 it matters where guys hit. U hit 1 u get more abs. It matters when 1 has a 300 obp n one has a 400 obp. U want better obp getting more plate appearances. This lineup has other issues. Rf. Dh.
I don’t understand all this negativity. This team does lead the league … in GIDP.
Sux and Rays are both winning – if that holds up we will be in third place, a half game out of 4th place and we’ll have a 10-13 record this month including 4-8 at home.
But hey! We’re king of the offensive stat book! Don’t worry Yankee fans, be happy!
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Yankees would also be a half game out of first place.
1) Does it seem like we make every starter look like Cy Young?
2) At what point does the hitting coach start to catch some flack for a team-wide batting slump?
I’ve never been one to believe in firing the manager when the team stinks, but maybe these guys need a fresh perspective from a new manager. Whatever Girardi is doing isn’t working. He is just sitting around, waiting for these guys to live up to the back of their baseball cards and so far, it’s not happening. The only one playing with any real energy is Granderson. The rest of them look burdened.
This lineup is like any other. If 3-4-5 don’t hit it’s tough to score. Unfort our 3-4-5 are inconsistent.
They won’t fire the binder because the binder just signed a new three year contract in the off season.
Well. Whatever rose colored glasses you want to wear is cool with me. They’re about to drop their second consecutive game with their ace on the mound vs a pitcher they’ve beat up upon on the past because they can’t string a few hits together. I see this team as flawed. Both because of age and because of how they’re constructed. Unless some big changes are made – and soon – mediocre is what their 2011 is goin to end up being.
i’ll take a home run here…since we are all or nothing
syd_cash May 24th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
i’ll take a home run here…since we are all or nothing
LOL, same here
A ribbie for Robbie!
“Yankees would also be a half game out of first place.”
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dont rain on the parade JF – some people just enjoy wallowing in misery
WCYF-
While I agree with your general critique of the team’s play, I don’t think tandings matter all that much at this point. Yet you continue to bring that up.
Don’t give us that half game out crap. This is not a first place club. Pitching average. Can’t clutch hit. Don’t grind out ab’s. Defense is lazy.
Stop. A hit with RISP? Could it be??
These are not your Father’s Yankees.
Girardi will never get fired.
Or Cashman.
“Why won’t any of these players call themselves out in the post game? They’ll talk about how tough Romero is, and how they have to come back fighting tomorrow.”
Actually, Alex has been very candid in his post game interviews. He has said many times that the team isn’t playing well.
Cano’s bat is working. Now, we need to figure out what the hell is wrong with his glove.
Granderson and Cano back to back is really what we need. Or even Granderson 3rd and Cano 5th.
GET OUT!
Ten bucks says Jeter blows the game in the ninth.
My Favorite Martin! (props to whomever first coined that)
I used to be a Girardi sympathizer and i dont blame him for the lack of hitting, but that being said, i think this team needs a different manager…
Someone older, that commands respect.
I have wanted Pinella managing for years. I dont know that he will be the answer but he commands respect and will call this team out on their ‘issues’.
yay Martin!!!!
If being in 1st place today didn’t matter why would falling to 3rd place matter?
Wow, they’ve been reading this blog!
This team should be able to win this game! It would be a real moral booster! Let’s go!!!
Granderson and Cano back to back is really what we need. Or even Granderson 3rd and Cano 5th.
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Gardner/Granderson/Cano – no way Joe puts three lefties in a row though.
Come on Swisher!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be a real moral booster!
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Maybe it would be fans like you who could learn a moral.
Just an embarrassing at bat by Swisher. Cut him and teach Montero to play RF.
This is where swish needs to cone around.
Crap!
that time with Long worked well….
Rally killer Swisher.
Swisher being swisher.
This is now a Pie game.
Jerkface go find a stat to justify your existence. Get back to me. Ciao.
If Swish keeps hitting like this he will find himself in Kansas City next year. Next to Franoceur and Melky.
I don’t really care what it costs, they better go after beltran
for being so supposedly diminished he looks a million times more capable in the field and god, how about having a clutch bat?
Something tells me Cash will be hunting for not just a DH but a RF. Can’t have a power position and not have at least average production.
Shoulda pinch hit for him.
“If being in 1st place today didn’t matter why would falling to 3rd place matter?”
Because the Yankees’ record is more reflective of a third place team than a first place team.
Man, Swisher looks terrible.
Those two days off really did the trick for Swishalicious, didn’t they?
I have to assume Cashman is already looking at possible trade targets for future RFs.
Their closer Fransisco is awful but too bad the bottom of the order is coming up
I know these guys are professionals, and they know what they’re doing, even when they aren’t playing well…
But it still drives me crazy when a batter in as deep a slump as Swish has been, goes after the first pitch. Plus, if there was ever a time to work the count, you would think it’s in the middle of a rally…
Mo?
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Jerkface go find a stat to justify your existence. Get back to me.
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100%
the number of people who tried me and liked me.
Maybe it would be fans like you who could learn a moral.
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You are quick!
Gardner,Jeter, Grandy, Alex, Cano , Tex, Martin, Posada, Swisher.
Swisher with the least possible pressure up last a la Brosius.
“If being in 1st place today didn’t matter why would falling to 3rd place matter?”
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LGY – stop being rational, will ya?
it might just further incite ‘LoHud Miserables’ (the new name for game threads)
RS May 24th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
“If being in 1st place today didn’t matter why would falling to 3rd place matter?”
Because the Yankees’ record is more reflective of a third place team than a first place team.
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Shhhhh! Logical thought and rationality are discouraged here.
I’m definitely in favor of a lineup shakeup – even if it was just short term. They need something to get their attention.
If I were managing, this is the lineup I’d use:
Gardner, Granderson, Cano, Alex, Tex, Martin, Jeter, Posada, Swisher
Let’s see if the Yankee have a RALLY IN THEIR BONES….Michael Kay sucks.
the number of people who tried me and liked me.
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You can add me to that group. You’re a funny and smart guy. Always enjoy your posts.
Granderson should be in a power slot. Hitting 6. Put cano 4. A rid 5. Gardy 1. Let jeter hit 2. Martin 7.
Well look on the bright side folks. We got Gardner, Nunez, and Jeter up in the ninth. Sure fire win there.
Swisher is MR Unclutch.
walk off!
Fans being moved out of the upper deck in Arlington. Dallas-FW is under a tornado warning.
i dont get it.
jeter is horrible at leadoff, but you are ok with him hitting second?
You need to score before Jeter gets up.
Because the Yankees’ record is more reflective of a third place team than a first place team.
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What does this even mean?
So I guess it wont matter that Tampa and Boston are ahead of them because their record is more reflective of third place, right??
LGY May 24th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
If being in 1st place today didn’t matter why would falling to 3rd place matter?
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That’s too logical for most on this thread.
Maybe we’ll get a CG here. Then The Binder will be able to point out, in his postgame, how he was able to rest the bullpen.
U can’t have 3 leftys in a row. Need to balance them and keep cano n grandy in RBI slots.
Jeter should get married to Minka and go on an extended Honeymoon.
Gardner,Jeter, Grandy, Alex, Cano , Tex
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Funny I was just typing that. Girardi has to do something and I would like to see Granderson and Cano closer to one another. The binder says you can’t have 2 lefties back to back but they need to be closer together.
“Well look on the bright side folks. We got Gardner, Nunez, and Jeter up in the ninth. Sure fire win there.”
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Gardner can’t get on to lead off against Francisco?
He’s been on base twice tonight and has been doing well.
Didn’t Nunez have a hit?
O ye of little faith…
It’s still fairly early so watching the standings right now is pointless.
The rays lost 2 out of 3 to the orioles, not reflective of a first place team. They’ll be in third soon enough. The red sox can’t get a hit with RISP, not reflective of first place team. They’ll be in third soon enough.
We’re going into the last at bats down only one run…with our best lead-off guy starting us off, and a very good #2 hitter behind him. let them get on and have DJ bunt them over…then go for kill
Ac1. Who’s gonna hit 2? Swisher or posada??? May as well let jeter hit 2 so he can ‘bunt’ Gardner over.
oh boy, I miss Paul O’Neill
“U can’t have 3 leftys in a row”
That would be true if our lefty hitters didn’t hit lefty pitching. Both Cano and Granderson are killing lefties right now. I think you can get away with it.
Gardner/Nunez may be ok, but few still have faith that Jeter will come through in the 9th inning of a game…
If you really think about it no one will be in first place in the AL East.
No one has a record “reflective of first place” so it doesn’t count.
“the number of people who tried me and liked me.
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You can add me to that group”
You will have to fight Carlo for him.
That would be true if our lefty hitters didn’t hit lefty pitching. Both Cano and Granderson are killing lefties right now. I think you can get away with it.
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i agree, but Girardi does not.
I really hope Girardi doesn’t pinch hit Posada for Nunez. The kid can hit and Girardi has to stop living in the past.
Can’t wait for gardy to walk n Nunez wastes an out bunting n heter grounds to short. Typical girardi
Who wants to bet Girardi “binder Joe” subs out Nunez for the hot hitting Posada in the ninth?
It is time for pie!!!!!
Ac1. Who’s gonna hit 2? Swisher or posada??? May as well let jeter hit 2 so he can ‘bunt’ Gardner over.
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Just saying, that if the goal is to stop jeter from getting the most ABs, im wondering how often the leadoff hitter really ends a game with more ABs than the #2 hitter in a 152 game season…
Ah man, Jeter? noooooooooooooooo.
162, typo
A lineup needs balance. No one with a brain puts 3 leftys at top.
Just saying, that if the goal is to stop jeter from getting the most ABs, im wondering how often the leadoff hitter really ends a game with more ABs than the #2 hitter in a 152 game season…
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Generally each spot you go down in the order takes away about 13-15 PA.
Swisher down to .208
We’ll see.
Too bad Granderson and Cano aren’t coming up in this inning again
For whoever said the Yankees “dont grind out AB’s”
They are fourth in MLB in pitches per PA.
Come on Gardner! Let’s get on!!!
It doesn’t matter what place the Yankees are in the division right now (too early to worry about standings that much) but fans are making observations on the team just based on what they see on the field. And the Yankees aren’t playing like a first place team, they are playing like an 85-90 win third place team.
“# matt1766 May 24th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
“No hitting, no defense. pitching no great. not winning at home. what would you call it”
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one bad inning from the team currently in first place in May ?
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youre out of your mind if you think it is only one bad inning”
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well, matt…. looks like you really nailed that one.
the 4th sure looks like just one bad inning right now.
yanks are in good position to tie this up or win it.
let’s go!
A lineup needs balance. No one with a brain puts 3 leftys at top.
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This would only matter if your lefties weren’t good against lefties. Cano isn’t showing himself to be 2010 Cano (that cano I’d hit third in a new york minute) so I’d go
Gardner-Grandy-Tex-Arod-Cano-Martin-Swisher-Posada-Jeter
Generally each spot you go down in the order takes away about 13-15 PA.
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So once every 10 games?
Just keep the bat on your shoulders Brett.
a reliever with a 5era. You would think the Yankees should hit him hard. But that’s never the case.
Has this team held a players only meeting yet this year? I don’t remember one. To me that illustrates a complacent attitude. Has Girardi closed the clubhouse and held a team meeting?
Players can do their best as they know it. Sometimes it takes a shock to make people realize that just because you are nominally in first place that everything is not well.
“Gardner-Grandy-Tex-Arod-Cano-Martin-Swisher-Posada-Jeter”
Jeter ninth? Never happen.
Cmon Jorge, turn back time….
POSADA. Seriously?
Posada is 1 for 11 against this guy…Girardi going against the book here.
170 Posada hitting for 280 Nunez?
Jeter ninth? Never happen.
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Ok flip flop jeter and posada
Posada has been the worst hitter on this team this year but let’s have him pinch hit. That makes sense. Everyone should throw a hissy fit. Girardi is an absolute joke. Stop living in the past!!!!
Come on Posada make me a believer again.
verge of another deflating home loss.. This is getting ridiculous and unbearable to watch.
interesting
hope Jorge makes Joe look like a genius :O
“Has this team held a players only meeting yet this year?”
They did and it didn’t improve their play. The errors continued and the horrible RISP numbers did as well. They don’t need a meeting; they need a shakeup.
This is insane. Here come the off speed pitches….
A HR would be nice Jorge.
I stand corrected. Thankfully.
I’ll take it…
Yeah, baby!!
i guess he still can hit major league pitching
Who can run for Posada? Dickerson…send him in
Yeah Jorge!!!
Ok now lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They should change the rule so that they can pinch run for a player as the game is going on, so the moment posada runs through 1st dickerson would just bolt from the dugout to 2nd.
Faith has got nothing to do with it. Jeter will probably end the game. I hope I’m wrong. But I doubt it. I hope the game ends with pie. But more than likely – it’ll be a groundout.
guess going against the book works….
The line-up is not the issue, not performing is the issue.
Come on Derek!!
boo ya!
Posada looking to prove the doubters wrong.
That swing was pure Vintage Jorge. Nice to see that again.
And here comes Jeter to mess everything up.
jeter really needs the pie more than anyone……..
hasnt had a walk off in the new stadium.
Come on now Jeter!!!!!!!!! Base knock!
Have we come back in 9 yet vs a closer?
Have we come back in 9 yet vs a closer?
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Swish walked off earlier this year no?
This is the biggest AB in Jeter’s career…………
Dickerson would have made it….
awww they shoulda sent him home
Wow! I wonder if Dickerson went on his own there….risky!
Damn.
The only pie Jeter gets is from Minka
god forbid jeter hits one out of the infield.
Damn, Dickerson probably would have made it if Jeter hadn’t swung
You will see moves made if we are in 2nd place or lower.
Right now we are in 1st place,so non moves are justified.
Clutch Jeter at his best!
And Jeter does what he does.
Grandy!!!!!!!! C’mon on man you can do it!!!!
no way they give him anything to hit with mr. pop up on deck.
Does the Curtis legend continue to build?
Captain groundout
Grandy!!!
Grandy is the best….
YES IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MVYP
Thank you Grandy
We need 8 more Grandersons.
The Grandy man can, the grandy man can!
Granderson rules. Oh man. So clutch.
Granderson for NEW Captain!
YES!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU GRANDY!!!!!!! WHOOOHOOOO
The New York Grandersons
Grandyman can!
This lineup needs posada n swisher.
the best THIRD PLACE? team in baseball!!
Come on Tex!!!!!!!
perfect time for a steal here
Grandy playing like MVP again…
BoJo May 24th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
And here we come
I wish Tex was batting right handed.
That was half of the LoHud commenters hanging out under the O’Neill banner in the Great Hall.
No cursing.
Girardi being aggressive. I like!!
“sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Well. Whatever rose colored glasses you want to wear is cool with me. They’re about to drop their second consecutive game with their ace on the mound vs a pitcher they’ve beat up upon on the past because they can’t string a few hits together. I see this team as flawed. Both because of age and because of how they’re constructed. Unless some big changes are made – and soon – mediocre is what their 2011 is goin to end up being.”
Wow good thing I found my rose colored glasses in time!
Grandy may have been able to beat them to 3rd.
I was hoping Grandy would duplicate Damon’s Demonic Dash to third with the shift being on.
Mark let me try and hit a puss HR in this joke of a ballpark
Here is your pitch Tex. No pop up!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Improbable, but sweet.
Tex!!!!!!
Friggin Pie!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a big win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Needed this win
Great comeback victory! they owed that one to cc
no pop up!!!!!
Does the team feel more ‘first placey’ now???
So is that reflective of first place!
I cannot help but feel good for Jorge!!!!!
lots of credit to…wait for it Posada…and of course Grandy, and surpise # 2 Texeria big hit
That’s how u grind
I don’t believe what I just saw!
Man, I havent felt like this since 2009!!!!!!
I can’t believe what I just saw
Maybe that will get this team going?
“Does the team feel more ‘first placey’ now???”
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PIE for Tex.
EGG for the faces of plenty of people on this board!!!
thaaaaaaaa Yankees WIN!
2009?
So they have that spark after all…
And that was the best come from behind I’ve seen since John Holmes in “Sailors on Parade”
This is better and maybe they have awoken! Mr. Granderson take a bow!
Grandy has been HUGE for us !!
Yanks needed this confidence booster for sure !!!! Great comeback !!!
What a win! Granderson has turned into a dominant player. Awesome.
Woot! Hip Hip and Pie for Tex!
Oh thank god!!! Feels like forever since a walkoff!! Great comeback and glad I ate my words!
Teix’s head fake means he probably played a lot of hoops.
Mark Teixeira is one of the teams best hitters with runners in scoring position, and thus far is having a better season AT THIS POINT than either of his last 2 years. I wish fans would act like they’ve watched the yankees or baseball before.
AJ has no control over his pie,just like his pitches..
Jorge got that started….the pride is still there even if the skills are failing..
every loss we should pie Burnett.. enough with the pies !!
Wow
SMH AJ missed TEX
blake,
he really has.
it’s pretty awesome watching Granderson turn into an elite player
That is a big win in May.
# DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
AJ has no control over his pie,just like his pitches..
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typical AJ
I’m thrilled to be WRONG!!!
Captain Clutch, you are a complete ass.
I think Chad had to rewrite his post otherwise he’d have a new one up as soon as the game ended.
That was a big, big win! Great comeback….and especially great for Sado. He needed that.
P.S. Bad pie effort on AJ’s part. I give him a 4. LOL
Really happy for Jorge ! He looked like a little kid up there running around like it was a WS winning hit.. hah.
dont forget CC.
as usual, he bore down after one bad inning and turned in a solid game.
5 straight shutout innings let the Yanks get back in this one.
This is the tyoe of win that may be looked at later as a turning point……along with the Mets win. Let’s keepmthe momentum going tomorrow boys.
So many games they have gone down quietly without a fight this year, it was great to see them pull off the comeback victory tonight!
Jerkface May 24th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Mark Teixeira is one of the teams best hitters with runners in scoring position, and thus far is having a better season AT THIS POINT than either of his last 2 years. I wish fans would act like they’ve watched the yankees or baseball before.
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QFT
Chad better have “Paths of Victory” as the next post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA8DsNXJYow
Rich in NJ
I think yer right.
“as usual, he bore down after one bad inning and turned in a solid game.”
CC was the victim of bad luck with BABIP.
Jeter.. I’ll leave him alone for tonight.. but it’s sure tempting !!
But they still need some changes.
sunny615 says: May 24, 2011 at 9:45 pm I’m thrilled to be WRONG!!!
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Doubtful considering you only post doomsday scenarios.
Remember when the Yankees were not going to make the playoffs last year?
imagine if they had taken CC out in the 7th or 8th
# mick May 24th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
It is time for pie!!!!!
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AS PREDICTED.
“I’m thrilled to be WRONG!!!”
For future refrence, it’s a long game, played out in an even longer year.
So think long term, kind of like investments
“CC was the victim of bad luck with BABIP.”
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correct Rich.
a solid effort for CC – he did give up more hits than you’d like but as you said, that was in part due to bad luck.
Good night all..tomorrow is another game.
“Mark Teixeira is one of the teams best hitters with runners in scoring position, and thus far is having a better season AT THIS POINT than either of his last 2 years. I wish fans would act like they’ve watched the yankees or baseball before.”
Let’s not act like he hit a double into the gap. A competent 1B (Tex himself in fact) would have made that play and we would be going into extras.
And they lost LGY. SO what difference did it make?
“So think long term, kind of like investments ”
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dear God tar,
i pray some of these people don’t play the stock market.
Grandy’s stolen base was key. Also, I think Tex at first base would have gotten that last ground ball and would have had a chance at Grandy’s single. Both balls were hit hard, but Rivera not being a good defender definitely helped the Yankees as well
They should tar and feather AJ each time he melts down on the mound..,
Hopefully this win will get them going.
Tar May 24th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
But carry on- it’s kind of funny when MG puts you on the wall of shame.
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Wow. CC sucking big tonight. Who’s left in the pen?!? Noesi again?
stuart a May 24th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
see what happens when you put the ball in play with RISP.. the strikeout happy yankees maybe can learn something.
sportsfans don’t look now but Cano is regressing big time… that error there is inexcusable plain and simple. that was routine…….
YankeesNmore May 24th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Is there ANYBODY who needs the Baltimore Orioles MORE than CC Sabathia???
I’d love to see his splits when he’s NOT facing the O’s.
PRAY he opts out of his contract. The Yankees would have to be morons to extend him beyond the four years they already owe him.
syd_cash May 24th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
watch the Yanks mail it in for the rest of the game
1. brownies May 24th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Grotesque. Keep tryin to hit home runs guys. Seems to work vs teams like baltimore and the mutts.
2. Captain Clutch May 24th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Unfortunately for this offense 4-1 is like 10-1
West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Anyone seen our ace?
Captain Clutch May 24th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
It seems like every inning they have 2 guys on base and the rbi hit never ever comes. They either strikeout, swing for a homerun or swing at the 1st or 2nd pitch because they are so over anxious.
GoldGlove9486 May 24th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Didn’t we get like 11 runs off of Romero last year? And this will be the SECOND time he wins at Yankee Stadium in 2011.
Captain Clutch May 24th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Tex with the usual at bat. I would love to see Granderson bat 3rd or 5th. It seems like his great hitting is getting some what wasted because he never gets up with guys on base.
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Well. Whatever rose colored glasses you want to wear is cool with me. They’re about to drop their second consecutive game with their ace on the mound vs a pitcher they’ve beat up upon on the past because they can’t string a few hits together. I see this team as flawed. Both because of age and because of how they’re constructed. Unless some big changes are made – and soon – mediocre is what their 2011 is goin to end up being.
“Hopefully this win will get them going.”
I hope so. They need to score early so that we don’t need the heroics late in the game because sometimes, they aren’t there.
And they lost LGY. SO what difference did it make
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Remember when you posted day after day that the Twins would sweep the Yanks?
Save the I’m glad to be wrong nonsense.
CC shut down the Jays completely after the bad inning, he gets mucho bonus points from me for going the distance and giving the Yankees a chance for a come back win.
“i pray some of these people don’t play the stock market.”
Think– very bad day traders.
I doubt that Fransisco will be their closer much longer. Posada has only been hitting fastballs and he throws one right over the plate? lol
My comments tonight weren’t doomsday. They’re honest opinions and they’re still correct despite tonights lucky walkoff. One lucky walkoff doesn’t mean this team is going on a tear. They still have problems with posada swisher and Jeter. That doesn’t disappear with one win. The rotation is still in flux as is the bullpen. These questions aren’t going to fade. We’ll see how it plays out but I still believe the yanks should call up Jorge Vasquez or montero.
Think– very bad day traders.
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The posters who lack perspective in this thread would be the reason why gas prices sky rocket. “Someone ate a bad date in the middle east?! *hordes oil futures*”
MG
I tried to tell them.
One lucky walkoff doesn’t mean this team is going on a tear.
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Since ending their losing streak they are winning at a .750 rate. .600 if you go back 2 games into the losing streak for an arbitrary 10 game sample. They are in first place.
Tar, it took me awhile to compile because there were so many
Does that win count in the standings or did it not have enough feel sparky thingies?
I mean they were losing for EIGHT innings?
So what. Did they win the WS? Nope. Still lost. Big whoop.
Blue Jays fans must be seething. Francisco is one of their worst relievers and he’s closing games for them
My life is in shambles now that MG has reposted me. Give me a break. Get a life you losers.
Its time for Jeter to give up the matrix of command to Hot-Rod.
So what. Did they win the WS? Nope. Still lost. Big whoop.
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Which you were happy to see, right?
One lucky walkoff doesn’t mean this team is going on a tear.
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no but it could be what they need to put a streak together
Who in their right mind would want to win that pinstriped Ford Explorer?
LGY. Nope. Just pissed off like the rest of you but I was at least realistic.
When you see the team playing poorly – you call it like you see it. When they play well, you call that too. You never stop rooting for them.
Sunny
You just keep sticking your foot in your mouth.
I think you are a Wall of Shame lifetime member aren’t you?
a bit of history:
probably the greatest team in baseball history was the 1927 New York Yankees. They won the WS again in 1928, finished 2nd for 3 consecutive years, won the WS in 1932, and then finished out of the money for the next three years. So, in 7 years between 1929-1935, they made 1 trip to the World Series with both Gehrig and Ruth still having mammoth stats (except for Ruth in ’35) plus other great players like Bill Dickey, Red Ruffing, Tony Lazzeri, etc, etc, etc.
They then won 4 straight World Series from 1936-1939.
Morale of the story is: no team, no matter how great, wins it all every year. Enjoy the great years, deal with the ones that don’t end the way you want them-the only sure thing was Hulk Hogan winning every match in the ’80s.
Scary to think that Screech is a better looking guy than Paulie. Ouch!
I hope so. A winning streak would be great. But they need to start playing better. Hitting specifically. Swisher needs to move down.
LGY. Nope. Just pissed off like the rest of you but I was at least realistic
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Predicting in Sept that the Yanks would fall to third place and miss the playoffs and then when they didn’t predicting a Twins sweep was realistic?
Granderson has been amazing
Good for him they really need it
Nope. just one of the first people on this board way back in the day when Pete started it up.
UPDATE, 7:28 p.m.: Wish I had a Dylan song for every note I post tonight, but I doubt that’s going to happen.
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How about a theme song for some of the comments tonight:
“Idiot Wind…blowin’ every time you move your mouth…”
Swisher needs to be moved down…..to Scranton….
Those thing were based on the team as constructed and the way they were playing. They didn’t have the players to make a run. Especially the pitching with cliff lee in Texas and AJ stinking. The rotation wasn’t good enough to get far. And Hughes had already exceeded his innngs limit by over 30. His shoulder was bound to fall off.
Those thing were based on the team as constructed and the way they were playing. They didn’t have the players to make a run. Especially the pitching with cliff lee in Texas and AJ stinking. The rotation wasn’t good enough to get far. And Hughes had already exceeded his innngs limit by over 30. His shoulder was bound to fall off.
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So those insanely stupid predictions were realistic based on that?
WCYF-
So which was it tonight? Poor or Good?
Baseball isn’t binary.
West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Scary to think that Screech is a better looking guy than Paulie. Ouch!
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Scary on your part. NTTAWWT
I guess the Rays got the memo that their record is not reflective of a first place team.
7-6 Tigres.
Stupid but right. They didn’t make it. Read the post.
Good Win, Great win the Grandy Man Can
Did they win the WS? Did they make it to the WS?
Its easy to predict failure in baseball. Constantly predicting it is even easier.
Did they win the WS? Did they make it to the WS?
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Is won’t make the playoffs, will get swept, code for won’t win the WS?
Jerkface May 24th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Its easy to predict failure in baseball. Constantly predicting it is even easier.
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JF, we actually agree on something lol
Carmona must really stink if he gave up a jack to Varitek.
Especially when the most successful fail 7 of 10 times.
Not predicting failure. Just saying that this team as currently constructed has holes. Big enough to prevent them from making their goal – winning a WS. It’s a good team but not good enough to beat great rotations like the phillies or giants. They need to get better and play better.
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Did they win the WS? Did they make it to the WS?
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27 WS championships in 90 years since 1921 indicates there were 63 times that didn’t happen.
I guess that you expect 162-0 and a WS win every year, anything less is unacceptable.
That’s really pathetic…
Same difference dude
If I want to predict that the Yanks will make the playoffs what is the lohud bridgejumper code language for that??
Not predicting failure. Just saying that this team as currently constructed has holes. Big enough to prevent them from making their goal – winning a WS.
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Which team doesn’t have holes?
Same difference dude
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Please explain.
” Big enough to prevent them from making their goal – winning a WS. It’s a good team but not good enough to beat great rotations like the phillies or giant”
People used to think that the Braves of the ’90s would dominate the decade because of their starting pitching, yet some other team with somewhat inferior starting pitching won more WS in that decade. Guess which one?
LGY-
The code for that is “200 million dollar payroll”
That’s me. Mr. 162-0. Sheesh. You are a moron.
I just believe the team should be good enough to beat teams like the royals and not rely on long balls as their only means of scoring runs. Be able to score after the 6th inning. Not hit into double plays so often or put players on the field with a sub .200 BA.
Somewhere in a 1996 Prodigy BBS , Sunny615 is saying that there is no way the Yankees beat the Indians if they make it to the ALCS , and definitely no way they beat the the Braves with their HoF rotation.
Great job Jorge. I can’t remember when I saw someone so happy.
JF-
He probably couldn’t type yet. He may have still been in diapers then.
Inferior starting pitching? Cone? Keys? Clemens? Pettitte? Mo? Wetteland was inferior pitching?? Please.
There is no way the 2007 yankees should have lost in the playoffs.
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
That’s me. Mr. 162-0. Sheesh. You are a moron.
I just believe the team should be good enough to beat teams like the royals and not rely on long balls as their only means of scoring runs. Be able to score after the 6th inning. Not hit into double plays so often or put players on the field with a sub .200 BA.
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So the 8 spot in the 7th inning on Sunday and the 4 runs in the 8th and 9th tonight didn’t happen, huh?
you haven’t made a single positive comment about any Yankees team in the past 3 years, IIRC. And your perspective is biased to the point of absolute stupidity. But enjoy yourself, you are a Yankees fan in some warped way.
Good one straw. You must be a brilliant janitor in life.
Did Chad’s Dylan Song Title Generator App freeze up????
Inferior starting pitching? Cone? Keys? Clemens? Pettitte? Mo? Wetteland was inferior pitching?? Please.
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You should look at the 96 team’s stats again. Then look at Smoltz, Maddux, Glavine
Clemens wasn’t even on the team in 96 and Key was bad. Cone was their best pitcher and Andy Pettitte was having a good but not great year. And at that point was young and had close to zero PS experience. You would definitely have crushed the 96 team. You can’t now only because of hindsight.
Liberty Boy?
Really sunny…my Ivy league degree and juris doctorate beg to differ with you.
TylerKepner Dave Robertson is heading to Tuscaloosa after the game tomorrow to start a charity raising money for recovery. He’s one of the good guys.
“Inferior starting pitching? Cone? Keys? Clemens? Pettitte? Mo? Wetteland was inferior pitching?? Please.”
Maddux, Glavine, and Smotlz were all at their peak. The Yankees’ starters weren’t their equal.
You do know that Mo and Wetteland didn’t start, right?
I’m not rahrah Yankee fan if that’s what your looking for. But i am a passionate one. I life when they win and hate it when they lose. I support them and I am bein honest in my opinion about the team. Jeter is in decline. Posada moreso. Swisher is struggling mightily to the point where you wonder which swisher was the real one – 2010 yanks or 2008 WS? The rotation is half makeshift and heavily reliant on a mental AJ. And now Soriano is off the see Dr. Andrews. I dint know about you but I have my concerns.
Nothing like “Country Pie”.
” But i am a passionate one.”
Passionate must mean irrational.
I dint know about you but I have my concerns.
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Every team in baseball has concerns.
Sunny
If I want to predict that the Yankees will win tomorrow, how do I say that?
Doesn’t matter. Mo and wetteland made it a 7 inning game. Every game. That is something you have to consider c
All teams have concerns but the yankees’ are somewhat more distinguished than others.
the Yankees rotation in 1996:
Andy Pettitte, 21-8, 3.87 ERA
Kenny Rogers, 12-8, 4.68 ERA
Dwight Gooden, 11-7, 5.01 ERA
Jimmy Key, 12-11, 4.68 ERA
David Cone, 7-2, 2.88 ERA (only made 11 starts)
Ramiro Mendoza, 4-5, 6.79 ERA in 12 starts
The Yankees rotation in 2011, so far, is much better…
Doesn’t matter. Mo and wetteland made it a 7 inning game. Every game. That is something you have to consider c
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Smolt, Maddux, and Glavine made it a 0 inning game every start
You just did LGY.
“Doesn’t matter. Mo and wetteland made it a 7 inning game”
It does matter because you set the terms of the debate:
“It’s a good team but not good enough to beat great rotations like the phillies or giants. ”
But if you want to factor in bullpens, are you now arguing that Mo isn’t the superior closer?
Obviously not since they didn’t win.
Phil has a bad bullpen and their offense isn’t good. I have my concerns about them. The giants have an even worse offense and their closer hasn’t been himself.
All teams have concerns but the yankees’ are somewhat more distinguished than others.
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Elaborate please
And the Yankees rotation as it stands now isn’t good enough to beat the phils or giants. Do you disagree?
Obviously not since they didn’t win.
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So you agree then that the yankees, as currently constructed, could defeat the Giants or Phillies in the same way that the 96 yankees triumphed over an even hardier opponent?
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I’m not rahrah Yankee fan if that’s what your looking for. But i am a passionate one. I life when they win and hate it when they lose. I support them and I am bein honest in my opinion about the team. Jeter is in decline. Posada moreso. Swisher is struggling mightily to the point where you wonder which swisher was the real one – 2010 yanks or 2008 WS? The rotation is half makeshift and heavily reliant on a mental AJ. And now Soriano is off the see Dr. Andrews. I dint know about you but I have my concerns.
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“….Blowin’ down the back roads, headin’ sooouth..”
You just did LGY.
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Thanks. I just wanted to clear that in sunny-language.
Any team in the playoffs can beat any other team in the playoffs.
Jeter decline, posada moreso, swisher, a rotation that includes nova, Garcia, and colon. Shoddy defense. Etc.
Any team in the playoffs can beat any other team in the playoffs.
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Yup, you are guaranteed nothing. Just like every team in the league will lose a series to a team they shouldn’t during the regular season.
the Yankees had Mo and Wetteland in ’96 and they made it a 6 inning game 62 times during the season, that’s all they pitched.
for the other 100 games, the rest of the bullpen absolutely sucked, with ERAs ranging from 4.36 (Jeff Nelson) to 17+ (Graeme Lloyd) and such reknowned relievers as Jim Mecir (5.13), Dale Polley (7.89), Brian Boehringer (5.44), etc, etc, etc.
If the Yankees had these relievers on the team in 2011 there would be 50 posts in every game thread calling for them to be DFA’d.
Tigers came back and beat Rays.
Not really. Colon and Garcia I don’t believe would do well on playoff time.
austinmac May 24th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Great job Jorge. I can’t remember when I saw someone so happy.
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Just heard him talk about appreciating the crowd cheering him loudly when he strolled to the plate there.
Braves’ ’96 Andruw > Yankees’ ’11 Andruw
We’re in trouble.
a rotation that includes nova, Garcia, and colon.
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CC – 3.06
Burnett – 4.02
Colon – 3.77
Nova – 4.29
Garcia – 3.12
Rivera – 1.80
Robertson – 1.47
Joba – 3.47
Logan – 3.75
Ayala – 1.50
Noesi – 1.29
This is the best yankee pitching staff we’ve seen in a while
you mean the 2011 Phils, the team that is scoring runs at a rate of just under 4 runs per game?
That 2011 Phillies team?
And LGY language too.
Jeter decline, posada moreso, swisher, a rotation that includes nova, Garcia, and colon. Shoddy defense. Etc.
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How are those problems more distinguished than others?
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Jeter decline, posada moreso, swisher, a rotation that includes nova, Garcia, and colon. Shoddy defense. Etc.
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“…Blowin’ every time you move your tee-eee-th…”
Not really. Colon and Garcia I don’t believe would do well on playoff time.
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But you had faith in Jimmy Key?
“And the Yankees rotation as it stands now isn’t good enough to beat the phils or giants. Do you disagree?”
Wait. First, you said that only rotations matter. Then you said the pen offset an inferior rotation (the Mo/Wetteland comment). Now, you’re back to focusing solely on the rotations when you were confronted with the fact that Mo is still the best closer in MLB.
The inescapable conclusion to be drawn is that you will flipflop at will in a futile attempt to try to support your deeply flawed argument.
Back to your question, yes, the Yankees as a TEAM (the sum of their parts) can win the WS.
As always, luck, i.e., getting hot at the right time and staying healthy will play a huge role.
I doubt colon and Garcia will maintain that. I hope they do but it’s probably unlikely.
Why wouldn’t Colon or Garcia do well in the playoffs?
Why wouldn’t Colon or Garcia do well in the playoffs?
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Veteran presence and good control don’t count in the playoffs. Its all about being on the other team.
I have a hard time posting when I see people posting with multiple usernames. It’s obvious and can’t be checked by the IT crew.
As you wish. Like politics you all see what you want. I am no different. Thanks for the convo but I have to get to bed. Night all.
I have a hard time posting when I see people posting with multiple usernames. It’s obvious and can’t be checked by the IT crew.
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Give us the scoop.
I think the Yankees 2011 staff is totally capable of shutting down both the Phillies and Giants.
The Phils were much better offensively in 2009 than in 2011 and the Giants totally overachieved offensively in the postseason, you aren’t going to see Edger Renteria and Cody Ross carry any team to another WS win in anyone’s lifetime.
“Like politics you all see what you want.”
So you were for the Yankees before you were against them?
Unreal. I go to the game, leave thrilled, open up this blog and the first thing I see is soriano going to see dr andrews. Absolutely unreal. Its like every good thing has to be tempered with something lousy.
Jackson May 24th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
I have a hard time posting when I see people posting with multiple usernames. It’s obvious and can’t be checked by the IT crew.
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I couldn’t care less what name they use, it’s some of the comments that are alienating…not just “negativity” but seemingly posted by fiends…
Soriano always was a luxury. They can withstand his loss. If only it would cause Levine and the owners to stop meddling in baseball decisions. The cost would then be worth the benefit.
Rich – any idea whether that contract has any clauses for injuries as it relates to years 2 and 3 given the opt out luxuries? Are we going to pay him $10 mm less insurance recoveries to rehab next year if he needs TJ?
The Indians have scored 5+ runs 21 times in 45 games (not counting today)
When scoring 5 runs they have a .800 winning percentage. In the 16 other games in which they have scored 6+ runs they only have lost once.
The yankees have scored 5+ runs 26 times in 26 games (not counting today)
When scoring 5 runs they have a .444 winning percentage. In the 17 other games they’ve lost twice.
The indians have scored 2 runs or less 10 times and won 3. Yankees have scored 2 runs or less 7 times and lost all of them. Yankees have scored 3 or 4 runs 13 times compared to the Indians 14 times and lost 1 more time than the indians.
The Indians thus far have been in better sync with their pitching performances. Thats the difference. The Yankees will be there at the end.
Kudos to the big man for staying the course tonight…..he never gave in and continued to pitch despite the scoreboard. He got a win because of it and so did the Yankees…..he’s just a stud.
Very happy for Jorge…..maybe that hit jump starts his season.
Granderson is one of the best players in baseball right now.
Great win!
JF – good post. Well researched.
Do you want to have dinner on 2/14/12?
Everyone wants the yankees to come from behind like the 09 team but the main criteria for that is to be losing for the entire game. Its really strange.
If the Yankees win 95 games but don’t come from behind that often, is it worse than winning 95 games where half are come from behind wins?
If I’m not mistaken, CC retired the last 16 batters he faces begining with bautista in the 4th, correct?
If I’m not mistaken, CC retired the last 16 batters he faces begining with bautista in the 4th, correct?
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He had at least a 16 batter streak, don’t know if it was longer by the end of the game. He really proved his ace-dom.
Carlo
No, I only know what it says at Cot’s and there’s no mention of that.
It’s a sunk cost (less insurance, as you point out) for at least two years, probably three.
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If the choices of picking up a pitcher this past winter was Soriano or Jorge De La Rosa (as many on here wanted), the Yankees picked the best option. Same money, same years and the yanks can absorb a loss in the bullpen a lot easier than one to the bullpen. De La Rosa is gone for more than a year.
Thx Rich. Amazing. What an unmitigated disaster.
what happened to chad? Isn’t this neglecting the blog… guy probably has to get something down for the newspaper but still. you get what you give…..
I remember distinctly in 2009 that a running theme of discussion here was that the Yankees were coming from behind too much and that their luck would eventually run out…..because that wasn’t a sustainable way of winning.
I prefer a team that gets ahead early in a lot of games but that has the firepower to come.from behind when they need to.
what happened to chad?
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Probably in the clubhouse covering the walk off win. Considering he normally posts a small recap immediately after the last out, I don’t get this comment.
Highly doubt they got insurance on Soriano’s contract. With his history of arm injuries it was probably cost prohibitive.
The Indians also have a .321 BA with RISP and .372 BAbip with RISP ( my new favorite stat
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The Yankees are at .245 and .258.
Yeah the Indians will come back to earth. Probably sooner than later.
I remember distinctly in 2009 that a running theme of discussion here was that the Yankees were coming from behind too much and that their luck would eventually run out…..because that wasn’t a sustainable way of winning.
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Yup I posted the same thing a few days ago. All over this blog people were complaining that they wouldn’t be able to come from behind or walk off in the playoffs.
Nights like tonight are what make a #1 starter…..not the nights where everything goes perfect.
If the choices of picking up a pitcher this past winter was Soriano or Jorge De La Rosa (as many on here wanted), the Yankees picked the best option. Same money, same years and the yanks can absorb a loss in the bullpen a lot easier than one to the bullpen. De La Rosa is gone for more than a
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I don’t remember it ever being a choice between Sori and de la Rosa.
The Indians lost tonight.
It’s already begun.
It was more a choice of Sori or keeping the money and the draft pick.
I don’t even want to talk about Soriano…..all I can say is that its looking like a blessing that they didn’t trade Joba right now.
GB – between those joke signings- Garcia and Colon- and the kids Nova and Noesi- they’re doing ok with the injuries to Hughes and Soriano, guys who were being heavily counted on.
blake May 24th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Nights like tonight are what make a #1 starter?..not the nights where everything goes perfect.
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Agreed. That’s why those who continually say CC is not an ace are silly. He almost always gives the team a chance to win.
There were plenty on here that wanted De La Rosa because he was a left handed starter.
‘The Indians lost tonight.
It’s already begun.”
See I told you so. What was their BA with RISP that is the real question?
There were plenty on here that wanted De La Rosa because he was a left handed starter.
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What does that have to do with Soriano?
blake May 24th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Nights like tonight are what make a #1 starter…..not the nights where everything goes perfect.
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You remember that game, I think it was 2009, in Chicago where C got hit early & after the ChiSox big inning against him he vowed “They get NOTHING else!” C’s like that other great Lefty we had here last year…shuts it down & gives you a chance.
One of the best things about the win tonight is that Rob/Jo/Mo didn’t have to pitch. Mo warmed up but he hasn’t pitched recently so that’s ok.
J alfred,
Yea I do….he’s a stud. No clue how anyone could not see him as a #1.
I think the take home from tonight is-
1. The Yanks hang tough.
2. Every team has problems.
3. Over the course of the long season, teams and players tend to play where they belong.
Good night everybody. Like Scarlett said, tomorrow is another day.
Rich in NJ May 24th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Soriano always was a luxury. They can withstand his loss.
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I strongly supported signing Soriano–only to allow Joba to move to rotation. This is just the curse I put on them for not doing as I wished.
Joe From LI, pitching really hasn’t been an issue this year. Even with Soriano, the Yankee bullpen was a top 2 or 3. and the starting pitching, patchwork as it has been has been solid…nore than anyone dared dream. The defense and offense, which were both supposed to be the strengths of the team has failed. I do think that with Cano, both are connected, though.
Nova has been somewhat inconsistant…a couple of good, a couple of bad, but, in his games so far, Noesi hasn’t really been hit hard. Nova is sort of like CMWang’s 2005 year…good and bad, but, he’ll settle in. Still like Noesi better, but, not a lot of difference. Noesi is more consistant, though.
All in all, though, they just need to clean up the defense and get the offense working together.
sunny615 May 24th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
And the Yankees rotation as it stands now isn’t good enough to beat the phils or giants. Do you disagree?
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I always wonder why people confuse baseball (a 25 man team game) with basketball ( a 5 on 5 game).
Hey I just realized tonight was the first complete game win! Wasn’t it?
Let’s go Bulls
# JM May 24th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
blake May 24th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Nights like tonight are what make a #1 starter?..not the nights where everything goes perfect.
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Agreed. That’s why those who continually say CC is not an ace are silly. He almost always gives the team a chance to win.
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If ppl don’t like CC as the ace of the staff he can always opt out and be the top guy somewhere else
All in all, though, they just need to clean up the defense and get the offense working together.
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QFT
This team will run away and hide when they do. They have plenty of arms to take over for Soriano, including Prior.
“Let’s go Bulls”
Really I don’t care. I just didn’t want OT because I want to go to bed.
GB, how silly of you to say that Noesi is “more consistant” (sic). He’s pitched a grand total of two games – seven innings. Let’s see what happens over a slightly larger sample, ok? Then we can determine who is more consistent
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_jupafa_1
a helluva minor league game
With Soriano gone, I’m tempted to see what Noesi might have to offer in more of a short relief role, at least until a starter is needed.
With Phelps and Warren both throwing the ball really well at AAA, you probably have enough insurance down there to be willing to risk losing Noesi as a potential starter for a little while.
I honestly can’t see Pendleton’s stuff playing in more of a short role. He throws plenty of strikes and I like him in a swingman/mopup role, but up 2 in the seventh inning I’m not sure I’d feel all that comfortable with the ball in his hands.
Noesi is advanced enough that I don’t think you have to worry about him honing his secondary pitches anymore. If he could simplify things and work with a 94 MPH fastball and curve, he could be pretty devastating.
“GB, how silly of you to say that Noesi is “more consistant” (sic). He’s pitched a grand total of two games – seven innings. Let’s see what happens over a slightly larger sample, ok? Then we can determine who is more consistent”
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GB is basing his observations on what he’s seen of these guys at the minor league level.
I don’t think he’s considering either’s major league body of work much at all in drawing that conclusion.
Nova does have a fatal flaw of sorts that also works in his favor. He has that “free and easy” delivery that we all love but it also offers him almost no deception in terms of being able to hide the ball. Even right handed batters get a very, very long look at the ball against him. IMO, part of the reason why he has #2 starter stuff with the strikeout rate of a 4-5 starter.
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I love that Joe Savery(my favorite Thresher) pitched in that game. We were talking about that tonight. Oddly enough, at least for the Threshers that I know is, they threw 2 position players on the mound and neither gave up a run. In his defense though, Savery made it as far as AAA as a pitcher so I would expect him to be able to handle 2 innings.
G-C: reread GB’s post. He talks about Nova having a couple good, a couple bad, etc. That’s this year he’s talking about, not some past observations of minor league performance.
Right, but in the same way, he wasn’t basing his assessment of Noesi’s consistency based on his two relief appearances this year.
I missed tonight’s game, but it looks like I missed the best win of the season. CC deserves a ton of credit for hanging tough and going the distance for the Yanks: He’s an ace in my book, I don’t care what anyone else has to say about it. And Joe G. deserves all the well-earned congratulations that he’ll get for this ballgame. It was a gutsy call to go with Posada in that spot. I hope that this is a harbinger of a Posada going on a tear. If Posada heats up, this team is going to be very tough to beat.
I really love to see the clutch hitting that we got tonight; it seems to have been lacking for the Yanks for far too long. Maybe the Yanks winning this game the way they did, will take the edge off for them, and make them a little more confident in their ability to come back.
How did Swisher look tonight? I know that he wen 0for 4, but did he hit the ball hard? Did it look like the day off helped him any?
Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
G-C: reread GB’s post. He talks about Nova having a couple good, a couple bad, etc. That’s this year he’s talking about, not some past observations of minor league performance.
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You’d better reread it yoursekf, Noblick. They are close to being the same pitcher. nova is more like CMWang with his low strikeouts and high groundballs. I wasn’t comparing Nova and Noesi; MLB season, since one is starting and the other is relieving. All I said was that he was inconsistantm and was that way in the minors.
If I want your spelling corrections, I’ll ask for them. Now, buzz off. The yankees won, so you’ll have to wait until tomorrow to whine about everything after the first pitch.