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Swisher: “I’m going to keep grinding, keep fighting”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 24, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Nick Swisher was sweating. He wasn’t going to be playing on Monday, but it was clear he’d been working on Monday.

Swisher went through a session of early batting practice with Kevin Long, then he did the regular round of BP with his teammates. It was his second day off in a row, his second day of working on his left-handed swing to try to find some of the consistency that made him so good last year.

“It kind of seems like when you’re struggling, it seems like a lot of people have opinions on what you should do and what you shouldn’t do,” Swisher said. “But I know my guy’s K-Long, and he’s going to tell me everything I need to do. I know if I listen to him and do the things he tells me, I’ll be right back where I need to be.”

Joe Girardi told Swisher that the extended rest was coming, and Swisher said he expects to be back in the lineup tonight. The break was reminiscent of when Curtis Granderson was given a couple of days to work on his swing late last season.

“Sometimes you can just take a deep breath and clear your head, maybe put the last 50 at-bats behind you,” Girardi said. “It gives you a chance to work with Kevin, work on some things and try to get some consistency in your swing so it’s there every day. Sometimes guys just need a mental break. We’ve went the whole year and put him out there every day, so I said, ‘I’m going to try something different now.’”

Swisher’s a big part of this lineup. Andruw Jones hasn’t hit much this year, and Chris Dickerson’s career suggests a very effective platoon player, but not necessarily a Swisher-type everyday guy. The Yankees lineup is full of players hitting below their career averages, but Swisher is the guy whose season most needs a correction to the norm.

“Whether I get to the same numbers I did last year, I’m going to bust my (butt) to get back there, and more,” Swisher said. “That’s kind of my philosophy all the time. Sometimes you run into rough patches, and you learn a lot about yourself. I’m going to keep grinding, keep fighting, make sure I get weights in, make sure I’m getting my extra hitting in, doing all the things I have to to make myself better.”

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289 Responses to “Swisher: “I’m going to keep grinding, keep fighting””

  1. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    That is 189 points better than the .000 that Posada is offering, but it seems Swisher would have made the most sense in that situation. Girardi’s reasoning for batting Posada and saving Swisher for later was “I’m thinking we need baserunners”. That was illogical on several levels.

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    Mell,

    Girardi’s so intent on covering his guys that he can’t help but spout this sort of nonsense when his suspect calls are questioned. I can’t read his post-game comments anymore because so much is just ridiculous.

  2. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Brian Fuentes ripped A’s manager Bob Geren after the club’s Monday evening loss to the Angels.

    “There?s just no communication,” he told reporters afterward. “Two games, on the road, bring the closer in a tied game, with no previous discussions of doing so. I don?t think anybody really knows which direction he?s headed.”

    Man relievers are more sensitive then a Lifetime movie. Makes me appreciate Mo all the more. He never complains

  3. Abe Peteraham May 24th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    atta boy Swish, i will give you till ASB till i crucify ya :)
    and at end of day hes still our best RF on the team..

  4. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Man relievers are more sensitive then a Lifetime movie.

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    :lol:

  5. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    That’s the spirit Nick.

    You might also want to remember that option the Yankees are holding.

    Just in case you need a little EXTRA motivation.

    Go get ‘em cowboy.

  6. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Swisher’s a big part of this lineup. Andruw Jones hasn’t hit much this year, and Chris Dickerson’s career suggests a very effective platoon player, but not necessarily a Swisher-type everyday guy. The Yankees lineup is full of players hitting below their career averages, but Swisher is the guy whose season most needs a correction to the norm.

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    Chad, I see Swish as a 4th outfielder at best, but we do need him to produce with the current line-up we have. You see him through a microscope level every day as you cover the team, so I’m sure you have a MUCH better take on him. I don’t want to see anyone fail, but there’s a whole team to think of, and not just a couple of individuals.

    There’s no doubt in my mind that Jones will be gone soon. As for the others? Who knows? I wonder if Cash can even get upgrades?

    I know we’ve all said this before, but we thought the pitching this year would be our weakness…

  7. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Trip:

    Fuentes has some grapes to beef about the manager when his last 4 appearances have resulted in 2 innings, 5 hits, 3 walks, no strikeouts and FOUR LOSSES.

  8. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    As soon as Chavez is ready Andrew will be collecting his pay check from the couch at home while eating all the cap’n crunch that CC gave him.

    Crappy loss last night….the Jays have given the Yanks fits for 2 years now.

    They do need Swisher to be better so I hope this helps

  9. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    Wang:

    I’ll say this for Girardi, it was situations like that where he really misses Chavez. Pinch hitting for Posada was the obvious move there, IMO. However, if you call on Swisher to pinch hit, who’s to say that Farrell doesn’t come with Francisco for the 4 out save and turn Swisher around to his inept side? Had Chavez been healthy, it at least gives Farrell pause. Does he have the lefty face Swisher hitting from his good side or bring in the righty knowing Chavez will be waiting?

  10. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:04 am
    Jones is a total waste of oxygen. He has little to no interest in making an effort on offense or defense. He’ll be gone by June.

    As far as Swisher goes, he’s not exactly ripping much of anything and I’m not overly happy to see him strike out and walk back to the dugout smiling. His wife may be worth smiling about, but, his production is another story.

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    GB — I read, too, that Jones is still not in shape. I don’t get that kind of apathy when you’re given another chance by a good team.

    And yeah, the Swish smile grates on my nerves. Best to pick another time to mug.

  11. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Jones is a total waste of oxygen. He has little to no interest in making an effort on offense or defense. He’ll be gone by June.

    As far as Swisher goes, he’s not exactly ripping much of anything and I’m not overly happy to see him strike out and walk back to the dugout smiling. His wife may be worth smiling about, but, his production is another story.

  12. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Blake-

    “They do need Swisher to be better so I hope this helps”

    I’m sure Swish appreciates you wishing him well.

    Nothing like a kind word from a friend.

    :)

  13. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Swisher hasn’t been a 4th outfielder the last 2 years …..he’s actually been a big part of the lineup and as Chad said getting him back to that level is going to be better than any platoon ….can he get there ….TBD

  14. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Mell,

    Good points. First off, I would inform Swish that he’s no longer a switch-hitter on this team. But what can you do? Any smart manager would indeed just turn Swisher around for an even easier out. (I think he’s an easy out regardless these days…)

    And Chavez? I’ve said it before. The team REALLY misses him. To be fair, Girardi doesn’t have a lot of great options right now, does he?

  15. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    GB-

    “His wife may be worth smiling about, but, his production is another story.”

    Absolutely. Give him a chance. He just got married.

  16. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    MTU,

    Nice pics BTW….hope you’re well

  17. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:17 am
    As soon as Chavez is ready Andrew will be collecting his pay check from the couch at home while eating all the cap?n crunch that CC gave him.

    *********************

    LOL Chavez seriously can’t get back soon enough. ;)

  18. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Blake-

    Thanks.

    As long as I wasn’t one of those rock climbers I would be.

    Hope all continues well in your world.

  19. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    I?m sure Swish appreciates you wishing him well.

    Nothing like a kind word from a friend.

    *************************
    Blake is friends with Swisher??? ;)

  20. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Last night’s offense wasn’t much, but Colon didn’t help things in that inning. The intentional walks were the correct move. That isn’t what hurt. It was the hits before and after them that killed that inning.

    Some of the brilliant remarks made last nigh came on the third batter of the game. Coln retires the first two hitters and only after Bautista gives up the solo homer did the roaches crawl out of the woodwork to complain about not walking Bautista. What manager intentionally walks the third batter of the game with 2 outs? Only the armchair idiots on sports boards….after the fact.

  21. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Erin-

    In a “fan” sort of way.

    :)

  22. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    “Blake is friends with Swisher???”

    Well not in a real life sort of way ;)

  23. Abe Peteraham May 24th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Obviously Swish isnt smiling because he struck out, thats just the way he copes with it, its his personality, hes always been like that , would you get upset at Mo for blowing a save and not looking pissed.. trust me Swish isnt happy hes playing horribly, and he knows he has an option, he doesnt need motivation… if it were only that easy the whole team would be hitting .300

  24. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    MTU-I see. In that case, I am too. :)

  25. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Swisher has become Sampson to Garcia’s Delilah.

  26. JCPD May 24th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Some of the brilliant remarks made last nigh came on the third batter of the game. Coln retires the first two hitters and only after Bautista gives up the solo homer did the roaches crawl out of the woodwork to complain about not walking Bautista. What manager intentionally walks the third batter of the game with 2 outs? Only the armchair idiots on sports boards….after the fact.

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    Just another reason why so many have left the blog. Still enjoy reading you and the rest of the good posters who have the stomach to remain here.

  27. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    I would inform Swish that he’s no longer a switch-hitter on this team
    ======================

    The guy is an .810 OPS guy from the left side and the left side is where the bulk of his power comes from (.475 slugging lefty, .437 righty). He’s in a funk, but you don’t want to tell a guy who’s a 25-30 homerun hitter that plays in Yankee Stadium that he can’t hit lefty. He’s just got to get it together. Tools are there. We’ve seen ‘em.

  28. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Erin-

    Swisher is just this week’s DWB.

    It’s a rotating sort of thing.

    Lot’s of guys take turns.

    ;)

  29. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    The Rays and Red Sox also lost….you lose games it happens. Pedroia’s health is absolutely vital to the Sox so we will we’d how serious that is.

  30. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Swisher’s way of handling it? I’d prefer that he’d smash a water cooler. The trouble with that is that he’d swing at the water cooler and miss.

  31. upstate kate May 24th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Hopefully K-long works his magic on Swish, like he did w/ Grandy. It seems like Swish has gotten away from his patient approach and is swinging for the fences.

    It has been difficult to watch Po this year. He has been such a vital part of the team for so long.

    Colon looked great, until he wasn’t. He just totally lost it. It happens. Noesi did a nice job filling in.

    I will be happy to see the last of Andruw.

  32. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    GB-

    That’s the ticket.

    He needs to let his hair grow longer.

    JCPD-

    Tagament.

    :)

  33. Doc Iac May 24th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    2 – 15 with RISP is not gona cut it

    were are the clutch hits?

  34. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    I would love somebody to smash something ……free Heathcott! ;)

  35. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Mell,

    So he blames his manager for his sucking?

  36. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    As of right now, Swisher is the best right field hope and option for the Yankees. They need his offense….as much as they need his energy, but, right now, he’s blown a fuse.

  37. Abe Peteraham May 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    ””GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:31 am
    Swisher’s way of handling it? I’d prefer that he’d smash a water cooler. The trouble with that is that he’d swing at the water cooler and miss.”’

    HAH, good point, i prefer the Paul Oneill approach too..

  38. Shame Spencer May 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    I still watch that Heathcott video when I need a pick-me-up.

  39. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    JCPD,

    The Angels put Bonds on Intentionally in the first inning in the 2002 World Series

  40. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Heathcott and Murphy will be in Tampa by mid June.

  41. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Im sure Andrew is a nice guy and he had a great (but not HOF) career IMO…..but he’s coasting at this point and that was my worry when they signed him. Yes he will close his eyes and the ball will hit his bat for a few homers over the course of the season…..but he provides little else. Its tough for a guy that was an all star to get motivated for a role like this…..

  42. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    I read Pedroia said it was a “hitch” he felt (like his leg went numb) and he’ll be back in the line-up.

    Mell,

    You can lose it. He’s not been that Swisher all season (and I’m not looking for last season’s version, either.) He was bad in the post-season and has never really taken off this season. I hope your faith in him pays off. My fingers are crossed, but I’m doubtful.

  43. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    When they play the World Series in May, let me know.

  44. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Bring back the rapture.

    Time for the Messiah.

    Free Jesus !

    An injection of perfection to add to the collection.

    :)

  45. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am
    The Rays and Red Sox also lost?.you lose games it happens. Pedroia?s health is absolutely vital to the Sox so we will we?d how serious that is.

    ************************
    what happened to the elf?

  46. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Erin-

    “what happened to the elf?”

    Tripped on a party favor rounding second.

  47. upstate kate May 24th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Erin
    He tripped rounding 2nd and made some awkward moves getting back to the bag.

  48. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Trip:

    Seems that way. He was brought into tie games 4 different times, but three of those were in extra innings. Not really sure what his issue is, besides sucking. Manager is giving him leveraged innings and he’s effing ‘em up. Not Geren’s fault.

  49. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    I’d just as soon see Maxwell right now. Maxwell can play all three outfield spots, he can steal bases and on occassion, he’ll run into a fastball. What’s more, he acts like he cares. I figure that Montero will be up around the all star break.

  50. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Mell,

    Well Bailey will be back closing in another week or so. That is until Bailey gets hurt again :)

  51. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    thanks kate. MTU- :)

  52. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    GB-

    Some time after the super two issue goes away.

    Which is soon.

    Maxwell’s silver hammer would work.

  53. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Fangraphs analysis of Swisher
    http://www.fangraphs.com/fanta.....r-buy-low/

    Not all doom and gloom.

  54. JCPD May 24th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am
    JCPD,

    The Angels put Bonds on Intentionally in the first inning in the 2002 World Series

    ———————————————————-

    True, but the stakes were way higher and despite the roll Bautista has been on the last year +, he certainly is no Bonds.

  55. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:40 am
    blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am
    The Rays and Red Sox also lost?.you lose games it happens. Pedroia?s health is absolutely vital to the Sox so we will we?d how serious that is.

    ************************
    what happened to the elf?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    He had to jump up to step on the 2nd base bag and missed. Don’t know why he didn’t just touch the bag when he rounded it. The elf and the bag are about the same height.

  56. blake May 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Im not sure exactly what happened to tiny……he left the game yesterday apparently. Haven’t heard any details

  57. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    He tripped rounding 2nd and made some awkward moves getting back to the bag

    ===================

    Word is he’s fine. Planned day off today. Playing tomorrow afternoon.

  58. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    He had to jump up to step on the 2nd base bag and missed. Don?t know why he didn?t just touch the bag when he rounded it. The elf and the bag are about the same height.

    ***********************

    :D

  59. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Don’t know why he didn’t just touch the bag ***with his hand*** when he rounded it.

  60. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    GB7 – Your assertion that “swisher doesn’t care” is absurd.

    What about Maxwell’s .200 career ML avg and .250 MiL average indicates he would have any success in the majors? None of it.

  61. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Actually, he rounded the bag and slipped off the bag….fell hard to the ground. Even for an elf, the ground is a long way.

  62. MTU May 24th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    GB-

    When Pee Wee trains in Lilliput the bags are always the right height.

    :)

  63. upstate kate May 24th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    so who would have guessed pre-season that Cleveland would be the 1st team to get 30 wins??!!!

  64. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:50 am
    Actually, he rounded the bag and slipped off the bag….fell hard to the ground. Even for an elf, the ground is a long way.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Ouch!

  65. Robert May 24th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Healthcott and Jr Murphy are hopefully in Trenton in JUNE. Need to get Younger faster.

  66. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Thanks, ID. I guess not all hope is lost, though he is hitting .170 against lefties right now.

    In case you didn’t click, fangraphs predicts Swish ending up with a .249 average, 18 HRs and 57 RBI (if I remember correctly.) I hope they’re right — for the team’s sake and his.

  67. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    S.O.S.—-S.O.S.

    Guys – I am desperate for your help. I treat my wife and kids much better when the Yankees play crisp baseball, win or lose. And I can’t wrap my head around the idea that this year’s offense is so terrible. I just cant; accept it. It’s been a blizzard of RISP and a BA nightmare. Jete is not a 1, Granderson is not a 2, Tex is not a 3, Martin is not a 6, Swish is no longer a factor in the AL East and Posada, well, he’s our special boy. I don;t blame Joe G – he’s just playing the hand that teh brain trust and Father Time have dealt him. Is there anyone out there who can actually convince me that this will turn around? Becuase my eyesight and experience are screaming to me that this is not a slumping offense, it is just a BAD offense. Did I hear right last night that the Indians are hitting .320 with RISP as a team? We’d be undefeated with that. Those things start in Game 1 and a team’s RISP culture is set in stone by end of April. Can anyone convince me we’ll turn it around? I need help because this is simply the worst offense we’ve had in 29 years.

  68. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Swisher’s mind is some where besides on baseball…unless he has developed weak anhles and knees. He’s fallen/slipped in the outfield about 4 times in the last week…including twice on the same play.

  69. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    What about Maxwell’s .200 career ML avg and .250 MiL average indicates he would have any success in the majors? None of it

    =========================

    The 66 strikeouts in 156 AB’s at the AAA level isn’t especially inspiring either.

  70. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Granderson is nearly leading the ML in hitting, he doesn’t qualify as your #2 hitter?

    No, there is no help for you… I feel bad for your wife.

  71. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    At least Maxwell can run and play defense…which is more than Jones can do. Makes more sense than Vazquez and his strikeouts and poor defense…even if he had a place to play.

  72. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Irreverent Discourse,

    He doesn’t get on base enough to be a number 2 hitter. He would make a much better number 5 guy

  73. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    discourse – there’s no doubt that Grandy is our MVP, but after all, he is only hitting .260. That’s why he’s a 5 instead of a 2

  74. hardwired7 May 24th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Fangraphs analysis of Swisher
    http://www.fangraphs.com/fanta.....r-buy-low/
    ————————————

    “For the rest of the season, ZiPS projects Swisher at .249 with 18 homers and 57 RBIs”

    Avg. sounds like a push. I’ll take the under on the HR & RBI #s.

  75. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Hardwired7:

    It’s the 18 HRs I don’t see happening.

  76. Mgumpher May 24th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    GB maybe Swisher just isn’t getting proper rest when he gets home at night. ;) Couldn’t blame him.

  77. Doc Iac May 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Granderson is nearly leading the ML in hitting, he doesn’t qualify as your #2 hitter?

    No, there is no help for you… I feel bad for your wife.

    —————-

    hahahahahahaha

  78. NYY fan in NH May 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    If Beltran proves to stay healthy, I wouldn’t be against the Yankees making a run at him. A switch hitter who can DH and play RF. Can you think of any better options? Swisher may not turn it around. It shouldn’t cost the Yankees that much in terms of prospects.

  79. Doc Iac May 24th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    discourse – there’s no doubt that Grandy is our MVP, but after all, he is only hitting .260. That’s why he’s a 5 instead of a 2

    ———-

    who u gonna bat 2nd?

  80. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Doc Iac,

    Gardner

  81. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    For the money that Beltran would cost, he’d better not cost any prospects.

  82. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Doc Iac – I’d like it to be
    Gardy
    Tex
    Cano
    A-Rod
    Grandy
    Jeter
    RF-of-the-Day
    DH-of-the-day
    Martin

  83. Mike Ri May 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Beltran or Hunter Pence would be a nice fit . ( if Swisher continues to struggle )

  84. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Yankees CC makes first career start vs. #BlueJays at Yankee Stadium tonight at 7:05 … http://atmlb.com/jo986o

    This is seriously CC’s first start against Toronto?? 8O

  85. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    So… Granderson’s OBP isn’t high enough to be a #2, but Cano’s is high enough to be a #3? You make no sense.

  86. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    First start vs them in NY, Erin.

  87. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Mike Ri,

    I doubt the new owner is going to trade his best hitter who is still cost controlled in Pence

  88. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Irreverent Discourse,

    When did I say Cano should bat third?

  89. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Triple – I confused your post with Doc Iac’s lineup.

    So you leave Jeter leading off, but need to move Granderson out of the 2 hole for Gardner? Curious.

  90. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    cgrand14 happy 38th birthday Bartolo Colon!

    :)

  91. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am
    First start vs them in NY, Erin.

    *******************
    thanks…I read through that article way too quickly. LOL :)

  92. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Discourse – Cano’s OBP will go up 40 points as soon as his average goes up 40 points, which is inevitable. Grandy, on the other hand, will likely see his OBP go down even further. Not necessarily his power numbers, but his OBP.

  93. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Irreverent Discourse,

    Well Jeter shouldn’t be leading off either but I figured since there is no chance they move him from the leadoff spot this year there is no sense talking about it.

    I’m curious to hear why you feel Granderson is a fit in the 2 spot?

  94. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Scranton game starts in 5 minutes on MiLB-TV.

  95. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Grandy’s OBP and AVG are 10 points BELOW his career average, and his BABIP is 50 points BELOW his career average.

    His OBP will be going UP, not down.

  96. austinmac May 24th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    The Yankees are not in a position or need to change their C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, or CF. Gardner seems to be adjusting and playing well. That leaves RF and DH on the offense and a LHRP and starter for the defensive side.

    I agree Jones is gone soon, if a replacement can be found. I believe they need a significant upgrade, Beltran for example, who could fill both needs. Then, either Posada or Swisher will be on the bench depending upon production. Girardi appears to have difficulty telling the vets they are sitting, but CAshman willnot, in my opinion, hesitate to replace them in the oncoming weeks.

    Can they fill all their needs. Doubtful. Hopefully, Feliciano will return. I say get Beltran for principally the cost of his salary and a mid-level prospect and try for Liriano. I suspect the Red Sox with Dice K out will also be in the pitching market.

  97. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Discourse – yeah, but his early career OBP wqs built when he was hitting leadoff for a good Tigers team, so they HAD to pitch to him. In this year’s lineup, pitchers can & will stop giving him anything to hit and it’s only a matter of time before he starts going out of his comfort zone (or even the strike zone) to reach for pitches in a desperate attempt to make something happen.

  98. GreenBeret7 May 24th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    There are 3 likely left handed relievers available. Flores is getting into shape in Scranton, Fuentes will be on the market soon and Jeremy Blevins has been DFA’s by Oakland.

  99. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Triple – Moving granderson out of that spot doesn’t improve the lineup, there is no one performing better to step in. The difference between Gardner and Granderson is negligable… and as you stated Gardner should be leading off. Gardner/Jeter should be platooned at best if not Gardner leading off all the time. Swisher is the ideal 2 hitter (high walk low K rate), but he’s terrible right now. Next best option is Martin or Granderson… I would rather Granderson out there for extra at-bats every game instead of the catcher.

  100. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    pitchers can & will stop giving him anything to hit

    Not if he’s batting 2nd, in front of Teixeira and A-Rod.

    If you bat him 5th, he can be pitched around.

  101. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Granderson has 2 seasons of a .360 OBP and the rest of his career is peppered with .330 OBP seasons. His OBP is not inflated (not that batting leadoff could do such a thing, what an odd concept), it is exactly where it should be.

  102. G. Love May 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    I’m glad to see Girardi benching Swisher to try to shake him out of this. No one is saying the Yankees should dump him and move on, but enough was enough.

    This is an in his prime player who should have been a cornerstone of this team this year and morphed into a clown.

    He’s not mentally into the games. From the defensive miscues to the approach at the plate you can see the guy is getting himself out and into trouble on the field.

    I think a lot of it has to do with changing agents and getting ready for a big pay day. I said this the other day and was derided by some, but when you meet with agents they like to project the potential dollars they see for you as a way to get you to sign with them. It’s a lot of pressure if your head isn’t in the right place.

    Swisher’s a fun personality, but he has never struck me as someone who deals well with pressure. When the pressure increases he has never shown he calms down. He goes nuts. That’s why his post season at bats are some of the worst to watch because he bounds up to the plate like he’s wrestling The Rock.

    He’s a streaky player and a bit of a headcase, but the Yankees need him to snap out of this soon. Otherwise, assets that were earmarked to improve pitching in the minors are going to end up being dealt to improve RF.

    And besides, I like seeing Dickerson get a chance here. In his brief tenure he’s shown a lot more than Andruw Jones.

  103. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    All of you people championing for Beltran better remember that in 2 months when his knees break down again.

  104. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Discourse – It’s America, so we can agree to disagree. That’s why they have horse races. You can have any opinion you want when you live in your parents’ basement

  105. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Hassey – Nice, a personal attack. I’m… Sorry your opinion was garbage?

    You can’t just make up things like “Grandersons OBP will go down” and then cry and kick and scream when you are proven wrong. it’s not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, you are just wrong.

  106. Wang IS Taiwan May 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    G. Love,

    Nice summary of Swisher.

  107. Mike Ri May 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    All of you people championing for Beltran better remember that in 2 months when his knees break down again.


    I think Beltran is worth the risk.

  108. austinmac May 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Irrevereent,

    I don’t disagree that Beltran comes with risk. However, I don’t know who else will Likely be available. Pence is about the only reason people go to the Astros games. Despite their record, I doubt they trade him. Beltran just seems to be the most likely player available–if the Mets would deal fairly.

    I am open to hearing other possibilities.

  109. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Discourse – Personal attack? No way, just a joke…it;’s only a personal attack if you actually DO live in your parent’s basement. Stop being so sensitive.

  110. G. Love May 24th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Wang,

    Thanks. I just think he’s mentally not all there and it shows in pressure situations. By changing agents and going for the contract that everyone thought would take care of his family for the rest of their lives, I think he created a pressure situation for this season from day one and has not been able to deal with the pressure of it.

    You have to remember, he married a Hollywood actress and lives a high profile lifestyle. He needs a huge extension to keep that kind of lifestyle and keep them living in the way he’s accustomed to. He hasn’t made the Jeter/Arod money yet. I think it’s weighing on him.

    And I don’t know how he deals with the pressure since he’s never really shown that was one of his strong suits.

    I think Girardi’s approach is right. Make him think he’s hit bottom for awhile and hope that the scent of failure wakes him up and gets him back into it.

    It’s not like we lost anything by benching him since he hasn’t really been providing anything other than an automatic out of late.

  111. Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    No need for Beltran if this guy can get his act together.

    He loves being a Yankee. Now is the time to prove you deserve to be one.

  112. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    austinmac – The odds of the mets dealing fairly with the Yankees are pretty low… actually the odds of anyone dealing fairly with the Yankees are low since the cat is out of the bag on Yankee prospects.

    Beltran is risky, but he is batting well (or was a week ago). I still focus more on Posada/Swisher revivals than a trade at this point, seeing as there are not a lot of good options out there.

  113. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Shuffling the batting order around isn’t going to help until this “team” starts hitting better. What pitcher is afraid to challenge any of our hitters? Who is protecting anyone?

    Batting averages mean something, and across the board, there is about a three out of four chance that any given Yankee hitter will make an out in any given at bat.

  114. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Hassey – Then I’m confused as to why you brought it up, do you live in your parents basement? You certainly said it like you were dismissing my POV with the comment.

  115. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    WCYF – There is not a single batter in the lineup with a .250 OBP, so your “3 out of 4 are outs” statement is hyperbolic nonsense.

  116. jonathan p May 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    why dont the yankees call up montero?
    let him DH

  117. Mike Ri May 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    No need for Beltran if this guy can get his act together.

    He loves being a Yankee. Now is the time to prove you deserve to be one.

    I agree Bronx Jeers ! …. We have to give Swisher some more time….

  118. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Swisher’s wife is hardly Hollywood royalty; the attention and celebrity he encounters in New York City as a Yankee is much more substantive. Every player wants that big contract.

  119. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Discourse I should have said won’t get a hit, that’s what I meant. The point is most of our team is hitting close to the .250 range on average. No one is afraid to pitch to us.

  120. austinmac May 24th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Swisher has never been a hitter who performs in the post-season. I suspect this is related to difficulty with top flight pitching. I don’t say dump him, but I do say they need someone who can play his role or Posada’s role if they continue like they are.

    When I watch Posada come to the plate, facially he looks extremely up tight. I suspect heis feeling the pressure. Who can blame him?

  121. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Discourse – Who am I to dismiss anyone’s POV? I happen to think that I am right, but that doesn’t make me a better person or a more enthusiastic Yankee fan than you. Maybe more handsome, but that’s about it. Bottom line is that we are 90-72 this year no matter how much blabbing we all do. Next dynasty starts in 2014. For now we all just get gray hair, heartburn and fist size holes in the walls behind our couches.

  122. G. Love May 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    West Coast,

    Not saying she’s Hollywood royalty, but when you’re on a series you’re living a charmed life filled with luxury until it’s cancelled. They met & married while she was living that lifestyle not when she was working her way up. I have no idea if she’s spoiled or grounded but I do know that people who are on network series live a very expensive pampered lifestyle while they are employed and it costs a lot to maintain.

    That said, living in NYC and probably maintaining a place in LA is costing them major coin and he needs to score the big extension while he can because after 35-36 he’s never going to make that money again and her chances of making big money as an actress dry up as she ages as well. She means nothing to the movie side of the business. Her earning potential is as a TV actress and TV is a volatile industry from season to season.

  123. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    How are they not afraid? This lineup is depositing balls in the seats at a higher clip than any team in history. Batting AVG is not the key to victory, it never has been.

    They are tied for first with Tampa.
    They are 3rd in runs.
    They are 16th in hits (read: average… not below).
    They are 1st in HR by a long shot.
    They are 3rd in walks.
    They are 2nd in OPS.

    This is all with the offense sputtering for almost 3 weeks.

    The offense is fine, and I’m fairly certain that pitchers don’t look forward to facing them. The myth of the “offensive problems” is really getting out of hand. It’s only unproductive if they are being outpaced by other teams, and they are not.

  124. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Discourse – Come on, dude. Let’s go crazy for just one second and drop the stats sheet on the floor. Do you really think in your heart that there is no problem with our O this year? Really? No stat padidng in our handful of blowouts? Nothing wrong with our LOB RISP BA?

  125. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Hassey – Not sure what all that has to do with Granderson batting 5th instead of 2nd, but OK.

    Awful good of you to make predictions of the teams final record 4 months from now while they are not currently playing well. 90wins is called the floor, the team is sputtering and playing like garbage and still pacing 90 wins. So… when they play better….. …. …………

  126. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Hassey – let’s drop the facts? No.

  127. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    The Yankees are actually FIRST in MLB in runs per game.

    How much more offense can one expect?

  128. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    niblick – thank you, i knew that but forgot to put it in there.

    Apparently people are perfectly fine with disregarding things that went well in order to make a point (less of a point, more of a worry). No one ever disregards the times the Yankees were shutout and the team leaves 15 guys on base and had tons of opportunity to score.

    Perspective is key, RISP are not supposed to score every time.

    The Yankee’s are 9th in baseball in OPS w/ RISP. 9th. Not last, as some here would lead you to believe. The 8 teams ahead of the Yankees? Cleveland, Baltimore, St Louis, Texas, Atlanta, Cincinatti, Pittsburgh, Colorado. 2 contenders and a bunch of pretenders.

    Let me know when I’m supposed to start worrying, because I don’t see it.

  129. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Oh, and the Yankees are 5th in runs scored with RISP. Again, obviously failing. /sarcasm

  130. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Niblick,

    They are a boom or bust offense. They score 13 runs in one game to prove your stat to be correct but it doesn’t tell the whole story.

    They couldn’t hit RA Dickey or this former NL reject who pitched last night. We have to hear that BS excuse well they have trouble with pitchers they haven’t seen before. SO the Yankees don’t watch tapes or have scouts? The “best” offense in the league should not fall back on the excuse of well we have trouble with guys we never saw before no matter how bad they are or how soft they throw the ball

  131. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Cherry picking 2 games against mediocre pitchers while a majority of the team is slumping is pretty unfair.

    I’m fairly certain that mediocre pitchers win games all the time, because that’s how baseball works.

    Triple, who do you consider to be the best offense in baseball now and going forward?

  132. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Actually, now I am starting to worry. I am not cut out for this board. I rely too much on feel and sight. Both optimistic and pessimistic posters twist stats any way they like. I prefer to ignore stats altogether and just call what I see as I watch trends and the ebb and flow of he season. What I see is a good, not great, team based on the 2011 parity, but one that is not currently built to win the WS. I’m out, guys…just remember me when we hit 90-72!!!

  133. Doc Iac May 24th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    line – up might be better with :

    garnder
    granderson (only cause we have no real #2)
    tex
    arod
    cano
    martin
    swisher
    posada(unfortantly til hes replaced)
    jeter

  134. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Feel and sight is nice, but when you “feel and see” things that are not actually happening, you need to check yourself.

  135. Doc Iac May 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    hassey dont take things personally

    yankees are an emotional subject

    but its good to have fans with all perspectives…

  136. 86w183 May 24th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Chicken Little would love some of you guys. You’re ready to dump Swish for a bad 1/4 of the season when he hit .288, 29, 69 last year with an .870 OPS

    They’ll be fine. They are going through a tough stretch, that’s all.

    the stuff about the extravagant lifestyle of Mr. and Mrs. Swisher is comical. What do you know about their “cost of living”??? The man has made almost $ 17 M in the last five years and is pocketing $ 9 M this year. I think he can afford an apartment in Hollywood… besides that Joanna Garcia has worked steadily for 17 years and she doesn’t make minimum wage

  137. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    ID – don’t start quoting gansta rap lyrics at me, or I’ll throw my hands in the air like I just don’t care. I only wish that you and I could bet some real money on your stats vs. my “feel and see.” I think it’s great that you follow the game so closely, and stats are a good tool, but if you can’t say out loud that the offense has been their biggest problem this year, then you are turning your back on the force, my son.

  138. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Irreverent Discourse,

    Teams that are supposed to have the best offense do not go on vacation for a month at the same time. This has been going on with this offense since last August.

    I would say the Rangers and Red Sox have the top 2 offenses going forward

  139. Bad Scooter May 24th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    We lost last night because of Cervelli. It’s his fault.

  140. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    So you believe that Boston and Texas, who don’t lead the Yankees in any significant batting category are more likely to produce this year… for what reason?

    Certainly Boston didn’t go 2-10 to start the year, that slump is ignored? Certainly Texas didn’t lose games to any bad pitchers if I go look through their game log… right?

  141. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    They are a boom or bust offense. They score 13 runs in one game to prove your stat to be correct but it doesn’t tell the whole story.

    *************

    Exactly. That’s why team stats can be so misleading.

  142. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    actually, I’d be curious to see a comparison of the Ranger’s offensive stats in
    1. the games they played without the druggie
    2. the games they played without the druggie and without Cruz
    3. all games this season

    Anyone? Statheads? Anyone?

  143. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Irreverent Discourse,

    You asked me who i thought going forward is the best offense and I told you. Texas just got back Cruz and Hamilton which is a big reason why they are on my list. Take Granderson and Tex off the Yanks and see where they are.

    Boston started off 2 and 10 correct. Their pitchers were horrible then so I don’t think all of it is on the offense but even if it was that is last then 2 weeks not a month and still counting.

  144. munson15 May 24th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Hassey…a druggie? Idiotic satement by an idiot.
    Anther joker to be ignored.

  145. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    but a “month and still counting” is not true in the yankee world, you only seem to think that.

  146. 4 NYY May 24th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Just thinking about sux captain Varitek. Doesn’t that “C” on the front of his shirt look soooooo
    “little league”?

    And PEDroia, man his facial hair is like that of a wolfman.

    Yuk is still the freakiest looking player.

  147. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    RiverAveBlues Dorky baseball player photo or the dorkiest baseball player photo? http://bit.ly/laHHM1

  148. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Irreverent Discourse,

    This slump started when Arod was out of the lineups for a few days in late April

  149. Abe Peteraham May 24th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    I know its lifestyles of the rich and famous, but if youve been making 10 million for the last 3 years and youre worried about your future payday to maintain your lifestyle, you better get some perspective…

  150. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Let me make sure I have this straight.

    Boston is going to be a better offense because they have been shut out the same number of times, are averaging less runs per game than the yankees and have only had 1 blowout win?
    Boston has 9 “cheap” wins scoring 4 runs or less (the yankees have 6).
    Boston has 5 “tough luck” losses scoring 5 or more runs (the yankees have 7).

    Texas is going to be a better offense because 2 guys that never stay healthy are going to… stay healthy? Mhmm…

  151. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Munson – Maybe a poor, off color joke, and in hindsight I am sorry for it, but ignore me at your own risk. 90-72 will be the mark.

  152. 108 stitches May 24th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    4 NYY May 24th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    Just thinking about sux captain Varitek. Doesn’t that “C” on the front of his shirt look soooooo
    “little league”?

    And PEDroia, man his facial hair is like that of a wolfman.

    Yuk is still the freakiest looking player.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Not even Little League. Nowhere else in baseball is it seen. Predominately in hockey with the “C” for captain and the “A” for assistant captain.

  153. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Triple – I’m just trying to figure out how you qualify your statement that they will be better offenses going forward. I’m failing to find anything to back it up other than “heresay”.

  154. longtimefan May 24th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Watching Posada and Jeter has become painful. I understand Jeter is closing in on 3000 but he can still get them without batting #1 and Jorge looks like he is out of gas. I understand the loyality factor from Girardi, but managers are paid to “manage” and win–what ever happened to his philosophy of “always fielding the team that gives us the best chance to win”. Montero will not be called up, he is strictly a trade chip come July and they don’t want to expose his short comings at the major league level.

  155. blake May 24th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Swisher wasn’t brought to NY to be a cornerstone player….Teixera was. He was brought into to be a complimentary piece and he’s been that and more……he’s given them a good return on that trade if he stinks from now on. That said, he’s in his prime and there is really no reason to think he’s in decline or can’t get back to being a productive player. I think this mental health break and time to work with Long was a good idea and hopefully will give him a fresh starting point for the season…..I hope.

  156. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Irreverent Discourse,

    Is Crawford going to end the year hitting 220? Is Pedroia going to end the year hitting 240?

    I am basing this off of those two guys staying healthy.

    I suppose you think Tex is a better hitter then Agon as well?

  157. munson15 May 24th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Hassey… I believe I’ll take that risk.

  158. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Triple – Those are minute reasons that completely disregard the bigger picture. How do you expect, no… ASSUME that Pedroia and Crawford will improve, but not any of the Yankees that are struggling?

    The yankees are already outpacing these other offenses WHILE playing poorly. It doesn’t matter if you think they will play better because so will the Yankees.

  159. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Munson – I was a better hitter than you

  160. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Your opinion seems to be based off of nothing but conjecture, is what I’m getting at.

  161. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    I’m pretty sure Hassey wasn’t a better hitter than Cervelli.

  162. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Now that’s just hurtful. After all, I’d be one of the better hitters in this year’s lineup:
    http://www.baseball-reference......ro01.shtml

  163. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Did you look at those stats, or do you just say things…

  164. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Because Pedroia and Crawford are main parts of their offense, they are in thier prime and they have a history of hitting much better then they have. Who exactly is going to improve that much on the Yankees?

    Posada is going to improve?
    Jeter is going to improve?

  165. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    no, really – check it out. I was one of the biggest reasons we competed in 1985 and even 1986. Plus I have a ring with the 1989 A’s

  166. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Triple – Is Swisher going to end the year batting .214? Is Cano going to bat .274 and completely forget how to walk?

    Cano, Teixeira and Swisher are main parts of the Yankee offense, are in their “prime” and have a history of hitting much better than they have. Why is Pedroia/Crawford more of an effect than those 3 guys? Not to mention Jeter and Posada are not as bad as they have been?

    Seems like the Yankees have a lot more wiggle room for improvement than Boston does.

    The fact that you assume the Boston players will improve (ditto for Texas apparently), but the Yankees won’t is very telling.

  167. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Jeter has been hitting this way for a year and a half. Posada is old and done.

    Swisher is not a main part of this offense

    Cano has had one year of hitting at an elite level so it would not be a shock to see him put up a line of 280 30 100

    and please don’t get me started on Tex. Tex is not the same player he once was. He is Giambi with a great glove. He will hit 260 to 270 with 37 or so home runs

    The reasons Texas will improve is because they just got their 2 best hitters back

  168. austinmac May 24th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Irreverent,

    Will Swisher hit .214? Who knows? He didn’t hit much over that 2 years ago.

    Baseball is a funny game. Last season is not necessarily predictive.

  169. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    You have absolutely no faith in anything to do with the Yankee offense. Swisher is insignificant, Jeter and Posada are done, Cano is not an elite hitter, Texeira is not an elite hitter.

    Obviously you will peg anyone else to be better, since your opinion is not based in reality.

    Hard to imagine you actually root for this team.

    How about this, Pedroia is not an elite hitter, and will not bat better than he is now. Crawford is not going to come anywhere close to making up for his lost production and will be damn lucky to produce anything near his career averages going forward. Cruz and Hamilton will get hurt, because its the only thing they do consistently. The Yankees will improve and since their offense is already outperforming both clubs, neither Texas nor Boston will touch the Yankees production all season.

    See how easy that is? Just spitting opinion as fact with nothing to back it up is fun.

  170. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    austinmac – he was leading off for the whitesox and playing centerfield. don’t think that had anything to do with it?

  171. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Swisher is 30 points of BA and 200 points of SLG under his career numbers, he’s not going to approach that before the season ends?

  172. I Like Inge May 24th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    no, really – check it out. I was one of the biggest reasons we competed in 1985 and even 1986. Plus I have a ring with the 1989 A’s

    - – - – - -

    I remember Hassey in the 80s. The dude sucked monkey balls.

  173. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Irreverent Discourse,

    Nice job twisting my words around. I said Cano has had one year of elite production.

    Sorry but I don’t consider a guy that hits 250 or 260 or whatever Tex will finish with this year to be an elite hitter. I can think of at least 5 other guys at first based on hitting alone that I would rather have then him.

    Since the Yankees are giving Posada another month to work out his issues I would think they would be closer to my opinion that he is done then yours.

    Another nice job twisting my words around about Swish. I never said he was insignificant I said he wasn’t a main part of this offense. The main parts of this offense are Tex,Arod,Cano and this year Granderson.

    and lastly good job for the third time twisting my words around about Hamilton and Cruz. I said if they are healthy, I wasn’t arguing if they stay healthy, I said while they are on the team they have a better offense then us.

    Oh and when all else fails either resort to personal insults or “doubting” whether I am a real Yankee fan or not. I guess I am just a Manchurian Red Sox and Ranger fan

  174. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Since the Yankees are giving Posada another month to work out his issues I would think they would be closer to my opinion that he is done then yours.

    No, they would be closer to mine since he is still playing. This “giving him a month” thing is media conjecture, not fact. Again, you are not dealing in facts.

    What should I think about you when you don’t believe a single hitter on the team will improve and come out of this slump… that you are a great fan? I think not.

    Apparently you are not interested in honest discussion since you can’t handle when your opinion is poked full of holes. Just keep assuming everyone else will get better and the Yankees will always get worse, see where that gets you.

  175. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    INge – Now I know what you mean when you say “I Like Inge”

  176. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    The main parts of this offense are Tex,Arod,Cano and this year Granderson.

    You don’t get to make these distinctions on the fly when someone like Granderson happens to be hot. 3 months ago you would not have argued that Grandersons production was important at all and I’m sure we can find you pegging him down around the bottom of the lineup if we google some post history.

    Swisher is the ideal 2 hitter for this team and it is a BIG deal that he is not hitting, because he is not batting where he should be in the lineup as a result.

  177. Bad Scooter May 24th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    So Tex is the 5th or 6th best hitting first baseman in all of baseball and will probably hit .260 or .270 with 37 HR’s. Boo hoo. We must have the best player in baseball at each and every position.

  178. Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    I don’t know. Hassey’s numbers looked pretty good with the Yanks.

    Why was he traded twice in 3 seasons? Stone hands?

  179. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Fun Hassey fact: In less than a one year period, Hassey was traded between the New York Yankees and Chicago White Sox three times.

    Also: The only player in Major League Baseball history to catch two perfect games, Ron Hassey caught Len Barker’s perfect game in 1981, and Dennis Martinez’s perfect game in 1991.

  180. Hassey May 24th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Guys – you smell that? It’s cause I AM THE SH*T!!!

  181. austinmac May 24th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Irreverent,

    I don’t know if leading off and playing CF accounts for his average and lack of production. I don’t know him personally, but the pitches he gets and the swings he makes at them should be the same wherever he plays defensively or wherever he hits in the lineup. Could it affect him emotionally? Certainly, but he is a professional athlete and must do produce no matter the place he hits or plays or whether it is in a pressure filled situation like the playoffs.

    Don’t get me wrong. I haven’t given up on Swisher. I do say the RF and DH spots, which are offensive positions, have not performed. They need someone other than Jones to step up if they don’t both pick up their games. I don’t think the Yankees should or will simply hope they get better if they don’t see signs of it.

  182. mick May 24th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Ideally , if Swisher is the #2 hitter, then Grandy should be up 3rd.
    With Gardner , ideally, leading off.
    Tex batting 6th, protecting Cano.
    Martin 7th, Jeter 8th, Posada 9th.
    Girardi saw the future and Jorge didn’t love it.

    Right now, the bottom 3rd of the order is dung.

  183. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Hey Mick, I smell something, and I think it’s coming from you. Don’t call people dung.

  184. Yankee Trader May 24th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    All Andruw Jones cares about is collecting his Yankee paycheck and his Dodger payout/payoff!

    With all the extra batting practice Teixeira took in the offseason to try and hit the opposite way against the shift, from the left side, I expect his homerun numbers will decline away from Yankee stadium. He’s still a pull hitter.

    Don’t expect Swishers 10.5M option will be picked up regardless if he has a better 2nd half. They might resign him but at a lower figure.

  185. mick May 24th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    is drek better for you?

  186. Joe from Long Island May 24th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    mick – just off the top of my head, that doesn’t look bad. Swisher doesn’t get many good looks, batting in the bottom half of the lineup, having Granderson behind him might get some better pitches to swing at. And Granderson still gets protection from Alex.

    I don’t know how much Tex would get hot and bothered going down to 6th. He might not, just a guess.

    The bigger issue might be putting Jeter and Posada 8-9. That might be one of the biggest challenges as a manager for Joe. For anyone.

  187. Robert May 24th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Swisher has an option for 10 million next year but the Yanks can say goodbye with a 1 million buyout. Since he has underperformed in presure playoff games could it be he is pressing to get that 10mil?

  188. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    The Yanks lead the AL in runs per game.

    Their OPS with runners in scoring position is .762 (compared with the AL average of .710).

    Their overall OPS is .776 (compared with the AL average of .711).

    Stop complaining about the offense.

  189. Yankee Trader May 24th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    The Yankees are 1-19 when losing after 8 innings.

    What is their rank with RISP.

  190. mick May 24th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    The bigger issue might be putting Jeter and Posada 8-9.
    =====================================
    Dr. Joe-
    Putting Jeter anywhere other than 1 or 2 is an issue but if he doesn’t do it this year I can see him hitting 6th , for starters, next season.
    I also wonder if Girardi has the cojones to bat POsada 9th ever again, for the 1st time.

  191. mick May 24th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Swisher has an option for 10 million next year but the Yanks can say goodbye with a 1 million buyout. Since he has underperformed in presure playoff games could it be he is pressing to get that 10mil?
    ========
    Bingo!

  192. mick May 24th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Stop complaining about the offense
    =======================
    What are they hitting with RISP?

  193. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Swisher had some stomach ailment or virus recently. Those things can really knock the crap out of you, so to speak. Maybe that’s contributed to losing his balance, aside from y’know being far too happy and smiling a lot.

    The team is probably pretty gassed. No off days & not even a travel day when they went to Tampa & onto Baltimore. Surely our “ancient” “done” lineup needs more rest than the average Joe.

  194. bruceb May 24th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Beltran is busting a gut for the Mets right now so that he can get one more reasonable payday. There’s no doubt he’s a class act but my fear is that as soon as he has signed on the dotted line for his new employer, he will be spending more time on the DL than he will on the base pads.

  195. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    austinmac – I remember there was a lot of strife between Swisher and Ozzie that season. Swisher basically flat out told him he isn’t a leadoff hitter (and he was right), but Ozzie is stubborn (see: Bobby Jenks) and left him at the top of the order anyway. There were complaints about him playing CF as well, although I don’t remember if they were public and “to the manager”.

    Swisher was visibly and vocally upset about this for most of that season. Unfortunately I remember this due to fantasy baseball :( Tough to say how much of it was Swisher’s production being down that year, and how much of it was his motivation/emotions/whatever.

    It will be interesting to see what happens after this extended stint with KLong. If he can back to his ’09 level of production (2010 is above his expected production) the team will be much better off for it.

    Switch hitters are funny, and are more susceptible to these kind of issues. When they experience outages like this from one side it usually does return to them though, it’s very mental. That some choose to turn that into perceived lack of effort or “caring” is just insulting to a man who puts in a lot of work to be a professional baseball player.

  196. Yankee Trader May 24th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    I don’t like Posada batting in front of Gardner. By chance if Posada does get on 1st he clogs the basepath for Gardner.

  197. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Yankee trader and mick need to look up, I already posted the RISP numbers. From my 11:20am post:
    The Yankee’s are 9th in baseball in OPS w/ RISP. 9th. Not last, as some here would lead you to believe. The 8 teams ahead of the Yankees? Cleveland, Baltimore, St Louis, Texas, Atlanta, Cincinatti, Pittsburgh, Colorado. 2 contenders and a bunch of pretenders.

    Let me know when I’m supposed to start worrying, because I don’t see it.

  198. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    RISP: BA – .243 (rank 7); OBP – .333 (rank 6); SLG – .429 (rank 4); OPS – .762 (rank 4).

    The 3 teams ahead of them in OPS are Cleveland, Baltimore and Texas.

    TB is ranked 9, with OPS of .678: BOS is ranked 11, with OPS of .643.

  199. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    ID – it’s much easier for some to keep repeating the same nonsense, instead of actually looking at the data. That’s too difficult, apparently.

  200. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    niblicks numbers are AL ranks, the OPS i posted was all ML… FYI.

  201. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Prufrock – I don’t think Swisher’s illness got the attention it deserves. Being sick really messes people up, any athlete understand that. I’ve seen guys take a fly-ball right in the face in the outfield and fall over at the plate from swinging… all because they were sick and their equilibrium was all messed up.

  202. mick May 24th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    the data I look at is each and every game I see and they are losing games because they do not hit with RISP.

  203. bruceb May 24th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    The Yanks lead the AL in runs per game.

    Their OPS with runners in scoring position is .762 (compared with the AL average of .710).

    Their overall OPS is .776 (compared with the AL average of .711).

    Stop complaining about the offense.

    Maybe so but just look at those batting averages. Not one member of the regular lineup is hitting .300. In fact, A-Rod (.289) is the only one who is close. I don’t think anyone who has watched this lineup each and every night could argue against the fact that they’re way too inconsistent. How many players have had a hot streak so far and how long has it lasted? Perhaps A-Rod, Grandy, Martin and Jeter (for 3 games!).

  204. mick May 24th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    # Yankee Trader May 24th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    I don’t like Posada batting in front of Gardner. By chance if Posada does get on 1st he clogs the basepath for Gardner.
    =================
    If it comes to hitting Posada 9th, what is the point?
    He might as well not play.
    In fact , when was the last time a DH hit in the bottom 3rd of the order.
    A switchhitter, no less.
    To platoon a switcher is ludicrous.

  205. J. Alfred Prufrock May 24th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    ID, a sense of balance is the starting point – for hitting, fielding, etc. Swisher certainly wasn’t going to talk about it. If he had food poisoning, that’s the worst. Kicks your butt for days sometimes.

    Cano also got hit in the head & on the knee. He’s banged up. Had that palm thing,too. Who knows if all 3 haven’t affected him. Like I said, I think a day off would be worth it’s weight in gold for this group. Unfortunately, their “off” day is a travel day to another time zone. Still it will probably help to not be playing for a day.

  206. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    They are still outperforming 28/30 teams regardless of 5 starters slumping, low team BA, poor RISP and a lack of “hitting streaks”.

    If they are outpacing the rest of the league, why does it matter what their actual level of production is? PERSPECTIVE is key. Offense around the league is down, the Yankees are not excluded from that.

  207. bruceb May 24th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Let’s not forget either that the Yanks are 25-21 having played 28 of those 46 games at home. That’s a big imbalance for this stage of the season and concerns me greatly.

  208. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Irreverent Discourse,

    It matters because their offense and pen were supposed to be the strength of this team and to make up for the lack luster pitching. So far the opposite has happened.

  209. mick May 24th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    Let’s face it, They aren’t called The Bronx Bombers for nothing.
    HR’s have been the key to success this season.
    Lower their HR’s by the 20 they lead the majors by and see what their RISP avg would be.
    They would be under .500 and “fans” would be jumping the ledge of their basements.

  210. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    bruceb

    Home 15-13 – That includes a 5 game home losing streak.
    Road 10-8

    2011
    Home: 52-29
    Away: 43-38

    Minus one bad week I don’t think this team is worried about playing 5 extra home games to this point.

  211. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Triple – OK, then when the offense starts producing will the pitching become a weakness? Or the bullpen?

    One is not related to the other. There is no reason whatsoever to expect the Yankees to keep producing at this current level (last 2-3 weeks). Just like there is no reason to expect Colon or Garcia to be effective all season.

    One hand washes the other. When the offense picks up other teams will be BEGGING for the pitching to falter.

  212. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Yankees With his next appearance, Mariano Rivera will become the first hurler in MLB history to pitch in 1,000 games for one club. #YankeesFacts

  213. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Triple – Also, preseason “expectations” on paper are not worth the napkin they were hastily drawn on. No one expected the Indians to be good, does that mean they have not won 30 games? Everyone expected the Twins to compete, I doubt too many had pegged them to start the season 15-31.

    This is why they play the games. You can win with your weakness one night and get dominated because of it the next.

  214. RS May 24th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    A big part of the Sox offense has been Jed Lowrie, so it’ll be interesting to see what they do when Scutaro comes off the DL

  215. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    RS,

    Lowrie really only had that week to week and a half where he was off the charts hot

  216. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Show me some data, not anecdotes, that demonstrate that the Yankees offense is more inconsistent than any other team’s.

  217. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    *crickets*

  218. michaels07 May 24th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Who said Hitting is half mental? In Swish case it has to be all mental.

  219. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    russellmartin55 Time for work … striving for Victory! @CC_Sabathia

  220. munson15 May 24th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Come on Hassey, you couldn’t carry my jockstrap.

  221. Nick in SF May 24th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I expect the Yankees to win more than 91.5 games this season.

    I expect that expectation to look a little healtheir when they go on a nice run of games (which they could be on now as they’ve so far lost a grand total of one in a row).

  222. DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Hollywood needs to do fewer ManCave commercials and stick to living in the batting cage….

  223. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Amazing how quickly “All-Star Nick Swisher” became “Hollywood” as soon as his production took a dip.

  224. DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Swisher was ill just a few days ago…what’s his excuse for the rest of the season and the past 2 postseasons??

  225. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Yankees,Red Sox

    Late and close

    Average .238 .291
    OBP .337 .377
    Slugging .355 .450

  226. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    DocTodd – Contrary to popular belief, hitting in the postseason is hard.

  227. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Triple – what good are those numbers? what do they prove? Boston can only hit bullpens?

    Here’s one that matters… Yankees 25-21, Boston 25-22

    For all of their great pitching, great clutch hitting, great bullpen, much better offense (i’m still trying to hold a straight face) they have managed a whopping… same number of wins.

    Awesome.

  228. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    So Boston is playing awesome and just now catching up to a team that has been in an offensive rut for 2 weeks. Color me unimpressed that they can only sniff our jock on our worst day.

  229. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    I love how each week that passes by the Yankee offensive slump still remains at 2 weeks.

  230. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Triple – Nice response. I would pull up the runs/game numbers in sets of 10 again, but I’m sure you’ll just ignore it like you ignore everything else.

  231. Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    You want my high-tech analysis?

    Sometimes they look crappy.

  232. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Hitting a teams bullpen is a major part of the game and is something we have had a very hard time doing this year

  233. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    You want my high-tech analysis?

    Sometimes they look crappy.

    **********************

    LOL

  234. DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Hitting in the postseason separates the men from the boys….no one ever said it was easy…..

  235. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    OOOOH, BJ… I like it. :)

    I have a high-tech counter-point. Other teams look crappy more often.

  236. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    2 weeks ago their offense had been in a slump for 2 weeks and yet 2 weeks have gone by and now you say they have been in a slump for 2 weeks.

    So according to you the offense is going swimmingly and you would not change a thing. Here I will make you GM/manager. It is the end of June now and not much has changed with the offense. What changes would you make?

  237. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Triple – Since I’m so bored and worried about your misgivings…

    Last 10 games – 5.3 runs
    Previous 10 – 4.1 runs
    Previous 10 – 5.6 runs

    So, how long was that slump? 2 weeks looks about right. It also looks like it was 2 weeks ago. Unless you are going to stand here and tell us that 5 runs/game (810run pace) isn’t enough offense to win…

  238. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Triple – It being the end of June and the offense still averaging 5.6 runs/game would be fine with me, I would make zero changes.

  239. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Irreverent Discourse,

    So Posada would still be your DH? Wow. just wow.

    Runs per game 13,1,1

    5 runs a game average

    See I can play that game too

  240. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    How many PA are included in the “late and close” stats? And what is “late and close”?

  241. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Triple – show me how the Yankees distribution of runs scored differs from that of other teams. I’m still waiting for facts, not just whines based upon what you happen to remember from all those games that you watch so carefully.

  242. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Triple – Yes but you are dishonestly twisting numbers to support your lunacy… that you consider the team inconsistent. How much of a sample is large enough for you? The Yankees lead the league in runs/game over the entire season.

    Like Niblick said above, PROVE that the team is inconsistent, and not just that but MORE inconsistent than other teams in baseball.

    Prove it or, seriously, stop spouting your garbage… until then you can be safely ignored.

    Your opinion is not being held above the FACT that the Yankees are outscoring every team in baseball.

  243. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    289 PA, 301 PA

    Late & Close are PA in the 7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck.

  244. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Also, your “Wow, just wow” meme has convinced me that you are no longer worth trying to convince. Go jump off a bridge, bridge-jumper.

  245. DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    It is disgraceful for our designated HITTER to be hitting under .170…..how long until Vasquez or Montero get a chance????

  246. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Sorry but they don’t have inconsistent splits.

    You seem to be doing a great job ignoring me

    It also speaks volumes that you would keep putting Jorge out there in late June if he still isn’t hitting

  247. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    DocTodd,

    Never according to # 1 super fan ID

  248. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Triple – No, you assume that the yankee offense scoring the same number of runs MEANS he’s not hitting. Your assumption, not mine. Add it to the list of false assumptions you have posted today.

  249. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    So if you are unable for someone to agree with you then you stop engaging. Stay Classy

  250. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    OK…a new post can go up at any time now. ;)

  251. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Irreverent Discourse – four straight hours of insulting people.

  252. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    ID,

    Do you have issues reading? I asked you a question and said if the offense is the same as it is today. That means Jorge is still hitting the same

  253. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Triple you completely ignore every point brought forth and come back with nonsense. It’s not for a lack of engaging, it’s that you are intellectually dishonest and there is no point in speaking with you.

    You have yet to prove a single point today, post a fact that points towards your opinion or anything similar… Keep trying.

  254. UnKnown May 24th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    3 out of the next 4 games will be a challenge no doubt. Ricky, Pinieda, and Felix. 2 out of 3 would be great. Mix in a win tomorrow afternoon and this will be a nice 2 week stretch.

  255. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    “Offense” and “Jorge Posada” are not the same thing. Look it up.

  256. UnKnown May 24th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Coming off a tough 2 week stretch. Get the team back in a good rhythm heading into the heat of June – Aug.

  257. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    WCYF – Am I insulting someone? Or asking they validate their opinion? You never seem to be able to tell the difference.

  258. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    We seem to hear the same complaints, year in an year out, that the Yankees (i) are inconsistent, or (ii) don’t perform in the “clutch”. Yet the data don’t show that. I guess some people just remember the bad, and not the good. Must be tough on them, to go through life that way.

  259. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Triple – show me how the Yankees distribution of runs scored differs from that of other teams. I’m still waiting for facts, not just whines based upon what you happen to remember from all those games that you watch so carefully.

    Again, keep ignoring the things that could prove you right.

  260. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Niblick,

    I just gave you the clutch data

  261. Bronx Jeers May 24th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    I have a high-tech counter-point. Other teams look crappy more often.

    —————————————————

    Yes. I can affirm this by looking at their winning %

    Their number is greater than all but CLE in the AL.

    I’m cookin now!

  262. DocTodd May 24th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Posada’s hitting has been offensive….

  263. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan,

    Some people get off on being an internet bully

  264. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    LOL “close&late” is not “clutch data”. Man, what planet are you from?

  265. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    DocTodd,

    Not according to ID, he wouldn’t change a thing

  266. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Explain to us how “close&late” stats prove that a team scores runs more consistently, which is what you were asked to show.

  267. munson15 May 24th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    I’m with Erin.

  268. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    I guess that scoring the most runs per game in the league is just not good enough. They obviously should be scoring more than the most. And scoring them only as needed. If they just would get it in their heads that they need to score just one more run in each game than the other team, then they’d be a pretty good team.

  269. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    A new post won’t stop people from complaining about the offense. Feel free to start some other topic of discussion, I’m done with him.

  270. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    It’s surprising to me how dismissive some fans are of the fact that in the month of May the Yankees are 10-12. In those 12 losses they have been shut out twice, scored 2 runs or less 4 times, and 3 runs or less 7 times.

    In that stretch there were 3 wins where we scored 13, 12 and 9 runs which serves to make the offensive stats look better than our play genuinely reflects.

    Hopefully this is an aberration and we will snap out of it. But an honest assessment of how the team is playing right now is what matters. Yes we are tied for 1st place – we are also a mere 3.5 games out of last place.

  271. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    You obviously have issues reading since this is the second time I am saying they don’t have splits for consistently

  272. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Wow. What an insight you provided us, WCYF. It is suddenly clear. When they score a lot of runs, they win; when they don’t score many runs, they lose. I’m going to bookmark that for future reference, in case I forget.

  273. Triple Short of a Cycle May 24th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan,

    Better leave the blog if you can’t get your pom pom’s out

  274. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Niblick – your sarcasm aside that isn’t the point. What is the point is that we have been hitting poorly lately and that the stats that so many quote here that show us at or near the top of so many offensive categories does not necessarily mean much.

  275. jackamir May 24th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Hey Chad, you’re slacking! A new post anytime soon. The team is home …. Something must be happening….

  276. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    . . . unless Niblick, you are satisfied with a 10-12 record this month.

  277. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    all right, change of subject time. Since it’s Bob Dylan’s 70th birthday, name the Dylan song each Yankee should walk up to the plate to.

    Jeter: “Forever Young” ha ha ;)

  278. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Triple – I don’t have reading issues. You seem to have issues proving your opinion is based off of… anything. You seem to think that statistical analysis involves finding one stat you can point at and go “HA”.

    You could do standard deviation comparisons on runs scored between teams and that would shut me up right quick, but that seems way beyond your comprehension as you would have done it already. I can think of a few other ways you could attempt to prove your points (they would actually prove you wrong which is probably why you won’t do them), but I’m not going to spoon feed them to you.

    Better to just make blanket assumptions that fit with trendy complaints of the moment than actually figure out if you know what you’re talking about, right?

    WCYF – Don’t assume that I don’t look at blowouts and shutouts (if you want to eliminate one, why not the other?), the point was to prove that it is any more “streaky” than other teams, which it isn’t. Being in first place while the team hasn’t played up to it’s ability yet is NOT a bad thing.

  279. Niblick May 24th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Well then show me something that indicates how “poor” they are hitting. I’ve seen nothing to that effect, other than whines from posters, based upon what they remember seeing in games. But I’m not expecting anything, because in truth they are hitting well, not poorly.

  280. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Not this month Niblick.

  281. Warning Track Power May 24th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    I like this line-up.
    Jeter needs another 1/2 day off as the DH, while Jorge continues to wonder why he is horrible versus a lefty starter.
    Swish is back. Let’s hope all the work he has done the last 2 days pays off.

  282. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    New Post (!!) w/linup

    :arrow:

  283. Erin May 24th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    edit: *lineup*

  284. West Coast Yankee Fan May 24th, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    ID – “Don’t assume that I don’t look at blowouts and shutouts (if you want to eliminate one, why not the other?), the point was to prove that it is any more “streaky” than other teams, which it isn’t. Being in first place while the team hasn’t played up to it’s ability yet is NOT a bad thing.”

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    Speculation as to what this team’s ability is – is fraught with peril. You don’t know what any given Yankee is going to do the rest of the way. No one can predict the future. All one can do is assess how they are playing and looking at their 10-12 record in May, including 5-8 at home, we are obviously not playing well.

  285. Mell May 24th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    In that stretch there were 3 wins where we scored 13, 12 and 9 runs which serves to make the offensive stats look better than our play genuinely reflects

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    For all the homerun talk, the team is slowing down a bit. In 24 March/April games they hit 43 homers, had 86 extra base hits and slugged .475.

    In 22 May games, they’ve hit 28 homers, 58 extra basehits and are slugging .410.

    Truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. They’ll almost certainly get better.

  286. Irreverent Discourse May 24th, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    WCYF – That is where you lose everyone. You don’t asses them based off of one month, or one small set of games. There is plenty of precedent to go by to determine what this teams ability level is. You think that people are given multi-million dollar contracts because future success can’t be predicted at all?

    Truth is, you don’t know how the rest of the league is going to do either. You can only assume that the Yankees need to do “more”. I am terrified to ask this but… what is that based on?

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