Soriano out into July
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on May 25, 2011 
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Dr. James Andrews’ diagnosis of Rafael Soriano’s right elbow turned out to be inflammation in a ligament. The downtime will be at least six to eight weeks. After two weeks of rest, the reliever can begin a throwing program. Then, according to GM Brian Cashman, he could be throwing to hitters after four to six more weeks. Cashman didn’t specify whether that meant throwing to hitters on a rehab assignment or back with the Yankees.
WHAT A SIGNING!!!!!
meanwhile, Mo just keeps chugging right along.
Hughes moved to 60 Day DL to make room for Texeira. He can come off mid June, but, just a guess around all star break
from prev.
TV connected to our car battery.
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Yankee game on a car battery. How long did it take for someone to pick you guys up while hitch hiking?
i wonder if Texeira can help us now?
Ayala is pitching pretty well and Noesi is doing the job as the long man.
What’s Randy Levine’s comment?
Does the 2 bombs Jones hit today give him immunity through June?
Does the 2 bombs Jones hit today give him immunity through June?
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They weren’t going to find a replacement before July anyway…
Rich in NJ May 25th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
What?s Randy Levine?s comment?
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Forget Levine…what does Felix Lopez have to say???
I see where Hughes was put on the 60 day and the Yankees claimed Kaneoka Texiera [added to 40 man roster], who originally was a Yankee when traded with Swisher.
Didn’t get to watch or listen to the game today but just reviewed the play by play.
Martin stole 2nd of Jose Molina. Impressive?
Did Jones hit any offspeed pitches for his 2 homeruns?
The Yankees are now 27-21.
Is that record now reflective of a first place team??
“Forget Levine…what does Felix Lopez have to say??? ”
Well played, Erin.
Felix Lopez jokes already made in new thread.
The Yankees are now 27-21.
Is that record now reflective of a first place team??
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Probably doesnt matter, since ESPN already predicted in January that the Sox would be 162-0 and win it all.
So 21 losses or 1 loss, doesn’t really matter.
(Sarcasm)
Getting Hughes and Soriano will help an already strong rotation and bullpen. It gives them added insurance and flexability.
The Yankees Post ASB bullpen will be the awesomemest!!!
The Yankees are now 27-21.
Is that record now reflective of a first place team??
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If this team would have just hit 250 with RISP they would be more than a 1/2 game ahead of the second place team.
Sorry Nick. That’s all I’ve got though, feel free to take over.
YESKimJones Cashman on Soriano: We’re counting on him to deliver “championship-caliber innings” & “he’s not healthy & we have to get him healthy”
russellmartin55 Great game … Awesome win!!! That’s how we do it… #Bronxbomber style!
Damaso Marte just gave Soriano a call
“Dude! You told Cash 6-8 weeks?!!? I told you how the Damaso Marte Vacation Program works. Take the season off and come back to be a hero in the playoffs. I’m done with you
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Did Jones hit any offspeed pitches for his 2 homeruns?
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Nope, fastballs.
This west coast swing will be followed by a homestand against the RSox, Cleveland and Texas. Testing ahead.
Counting on Soriano is like waiting for Godot.
There are no super teams in baseball this year. MLB wanted parity and they got it….a bunch of .500 teams.
The schedules over the last 2 years for NYYs were designed to slow them down. It’s not who they play, it’s the amount of excess travel. It’s been loaded with 3 trips to the west coast and so far this year, nothing but 6 game road trips and 6 game homestands.
ac1-
This is the best Year Ayala has had since 2007 with the Nationals. @008 and 2009 his ERA >5.0. Was he injured in 2010?
Rich in NJ May 25th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Counting on Soriano is like waiting for Godot.
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Nice.
Much better than the 2 year TJ surgery recovery that I was expecting when I heard Dr James Andrews.
This is the best Year Ayala has had since 2007 with the Nationals. @008 and 2009 his ERA >5.0. Was he injured in 2010?
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Don’t know. But i’ll take what he is giving us now. When he stops, bring up the next guy.
The Yankees have now scored 15 more runs than any other team in the AL.
Much better than the 2 year TJ surgery recovery that I was expecting when I heard Dr James Andrews.
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That comes after the 8 weeks of rest
“The Yankees have now scored 15 more runs than any other team in the AL.”
Typical cold, bloodless stat-quoting with no real-game context.
Many of those runs were scored in games in which they scored a lot of runs.
Take away all of those high-scoring games and then what have you got? You’ve got a team that has actually scored far fewer runs than any other AL team when you include all of the other teams’ runs but only some Yankee runs.
It’s like you never even look up from your stat sheet and watch the games. This team is in serious, serious trouble.
Nick – Typical misuse of stats by someone not practiced in using them. You can’t just eliminate numbers you don’t like looking at for one team and not for the rest of the league. Show me the list you made to figure out that the Yankees would still not be leading the league in runs with blowouts eliminated across the board.
Nick
Wait… damnit. You got me.
Nick, any argument can be made if you remove stats that back your theory?
You cannot just take out the high scoring games.
Should all teams take out the high scoring games?
In that case, the Yankees still score the most runs.
Yes they have been awful with RISP and scored low in many games, but as frustrating as that low point has been, they are still in first. Tampa will not hang on (they have been playing better than they are), and Boston will pick up.
It was never a question Sox and Yankees would be the top two teams at the end, and i doubt it is now.
It’s a shame the Red Sox scored so many runs today and now none of them will count.
A team would do well to stop scoring around 6 or 7 runs to maximize their perceived performance.
I knew my correct view would be challenged by the Poindexter Patrol, so I already posted my math on the W A L L:
http://tinyurl.com/dxodrt
Yankee possible payroll and contract issue for 2012 from MLB trade rumors:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....nkees.html
The true measure of any offense is the wins column. Nothing more, nothing less. it encapsulates everything you ask for from the other stats, and gives the purest truth of production.
The number of runs scored in a season at any given time is irrelevant. The only runs that matter are the ones that won you baseball games. “1 more” than the team you are playing. I like to call these runs Wins.
For the Yankees right now that number is 27 wins in 48 games. That puts them tied for 4th in baseball. 2nd in the AL. 1st in the division.
Surely they could hit better and win a few more games going forward… looks like everyone else in the league should be worried since this offense is winning and is so awful and inconsistent right now.
Rich in NJ May 25th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Counting on Soriano is like waiting for Godot.
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that’s the trouble with being ernest.
better news then expected…..
thought he would be out for the year. he is still better then most relievers…
# GreenBeret7 May 25th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Hughes moved to 60 Day DL to make room for Texeira. He can come off mid June, but, just a guess around all star break
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I know players come back from being on the 60 day DL but more often than not they are done for the season …talking about pitchers
Nick – I forced myself to watch that whole video as penance. Thank you for showing me the way.
Is Johnny Venters of the Braves , not the best lefty reliever in baseball? 30.2 innings ,9 hits, 0.59 ERA.
# Yankee Trader May 25th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Is Johnny Venters of the Braves , not the best lefty reliever in baseball? 30.2 innings ,9 hits, 0.59 ERA.
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if he came the the Yankees he would suck
This Soriano situation sounds like good news or at least better that expected. A couple of nice wins to take them out West. And I’ve heard from “inside sources” that YankesNmor/Larrry got himself banned.
I feel like they just swept a doubleheader at Fenway.
Braves are going to be good again for a few years, lots of pitching coming up.
# Bronx Jeers May 25th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
This Soriano situation sounds like good news or at least better that expected. A couple of nice wins to take them out West. And I’ve heard from “inside sources” that YankesNmor/Larrry got himself banned.
I feel like they just swept a doubleheader at Fenway.
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I’ll call and ask him
Big games for the Tampa Yanks. 12-1 win over Ft Myers Miracle.
Kelvin Castro was 4-4 with a double and 2 runs scored.
Kevin Mahoney with a 2-4 and a 2 run homer.
Deangelo Mack was 2-4 with an RBI double and a grand slam.
Luke Murton was 2-5 with a double and 3 RBI
The big game was from Heredia.
6 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts.
Final Box score.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_tbyafa_1
# Irreverent Discourse May 25th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Braves are going to be good again for a few years, lots of pitching coming up.
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would you offer a trade for Lowe ?
Offense 2011 /// 2009
0 runs: 8% /// 3%
1 run: 2% /// 3%
2 runs: 4% /// 9%
3 runs: 15% /// 10%
4 runs: 13% /// 17%
5 runs: 21% /// 15%
6 runs: 15% /// 9%
7 runs: 8% /// 6%
8 runs: 0% /// 8%
9 runs: 4% /// 6%
10 runs or more: 10% /// 14%
“The true measure of any offense is the wins column.”
I thought the true measure of a team (offense?) is third order winning percentage as published by Baseball Prospectus.
I tried to find ‘spark’ on b-ref but was unsuccessful.
joeman-
Braves want another hitter, but they still need Lowe this year.
Will the Yankees get more than 31 innings from Soriano, which is all they got from Marte for the 3 year/12M contract? Over or under?
joeman – People can’t handle AJ’s inconsistency, I can’t see how Lowe is going to be any better. I think the Braves would certainly listen to offers… but they should be contending for the wild card again this year if Heyward ever gets healthy. I don’t know if they’ll be selling.
Regarding Soriano: I guess this is the best news the team could have hoped for. Returning this season is better compared to having season ending surgery. Perhaps a very, very fresh arm in late July will work to the Yankees advantage.
For what it’s worth, Paul O’Neill today was outstanding. Part of me wished the game was 18 innings because I don’t ever grow tired of his humor.
The story from 2002 and Joe Torre was fun to hear.
His admission that he still receives royalties from Seinfeld was hilarious.
O’Neill makes Kay a lot more tolerable over the course of a game.
LGY – The only conclusion i can draw from that is if the Yankees score 8 runs in a game they’ll win the world series.
I’ll expect to see Hughes and Soriano only when I actually do.
# Wave Your Hat May 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I’ll expect to see Hughes and Soriano only when I actually do.
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don’t expect much out of either
LGY – what your nice chart doesn’t take into account is the fact that runs are down overall about 12% from 2009.
LGY – that’s on a league-wide basis.
Didn’t get to catch the game, but I support Paul O’Neill praise. Great commentator.
Lowe won’t do well here. He was a booze bag in Boston. Loves the nightlife, more of that here than in Atlanta. Bad alternative for us. Better guys will be available come July.
LGY – what your nice chart doesn’t take into account is the fact that runs are down overall about 12% from 2009.
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The chart doesn’t take into account anything. I didn’t draw any conclusions. Just posted the info.
Joeman – u see the ny post article about the guy whose been beating ac for a few million a trip in blackjack? I’m calling bs right now.
Lowe for Swisher? Not sure how the $ works out, NYY gets an extra arm for the rest of the summer, ATL gets another bat for the OF. Who knows, they may perform better with a change in scenery.
LGY May 25th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
The Yankees have now scored 15 more runs than any other team in the AL.
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And a good thing too given your belief that Mariano’s impact on the Yankee success has been overrated.
And a good thing too given your belief that Mariano’s impact on the Yankee success has been overrated.
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Now you’re catching on!
Derek Lowe is not what this team needs. They need a top of the rotation type to make a devastating 1-2 playoff punch
I caught on to your stat infested know nothing hate the Yankees act a long time ago. That’s why you are the charter member of the Wall Of Lame.
I caught on to your stat infested know nothing hate the Yankees act a long time ago. That’s why you are the charter member of the Wall Of Lame.
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That’s me.
I thought it was Wall O Flame? Damn, I’m disappointed you took away my flames.
Sorry. The penalty for dissing on Mo is eternal heat.
Sorry. The penalty for dissing on Mo is eternal heat.
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So I can keep my flames?
yawn
yawn
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Mo’s impact on the Yankee Dynasty and the success of the team over the past 16+ years is overrated and overstated.
So ……………. move on without Soriano. It’s not like he had made an impact up to now.
It’s a good time to sort out the bullpen, put it in order and not be concerned with who will or won’t be back.
Anybody that does come back healthy (Marte, Feliciano, Soriano) will be a bonus.
cgrand14 wow. Mariano has pitched in 1,000 games for the Yankees. That’s incredible… I’m so glad I don’t have to hit against him anymore!
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hmmm…I wouldn’t mind a Derek Jeter bobblehead.
WCYF
If you can take the time to stop hating Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, and Andy Pettitte I would love to hear you tell us why Mo was more valuable to the Yankee dynasty than those three.
The Braves don’t need Swisher…..they need Gardner.
# Carlo May 25th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Joeman – u see the ny post article about the guy whose been beating ac for a few million a trip in blackjack? I’m calling bs right now.
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did see that and your 100% correct
really like J. Jurrjens …was hurt last lear but when healthy he’s nice SP
Jeter plays around 1,300 more innings a season than Rivera does. Its an apples and oranges comparision. Rivera is the greatest ever at what he does …..but he affects 1 inning in about 1/3 of the games.
Closers are only useful when you have the lead. It’s the nature of position.
Rivera has pitched in 5 PS series with an ERA of 0.00 that the Yankees lost. He is a great post season player and a great Yankee, there’s nobody else I’d want to see out there in the 9th with a lead in October…
I wonder if Jeter turned Joba into an Idol fan?
Joba_62 Thank u @delta for having fox on the plane so i can watch the American Idol finale!!
I like Jurrjins too…..he’s good when he’s healthy. I mentioned back in the winter that they should offer Gardner for him…..that would make less sense now though because they really can’t afford to lose Gardy without an equal replacement.
Mo’s job is to preserve the hard work of players like Derek Jeter.
“hmmm…I wouldn’t mind a Derek Jeter bobblehead.”
Can the bobblehead hit the ball out of the infield?
# blake May 25th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
I like Jurrjins too…..he’s good when he’s healthy. I mentioned back in the winter that they should offer Gardner for him…..that would make less sense now though because they really can’t afford to lose Gardy without an equal replacement.
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you think Gardner would be enough…
LGY May 25th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Mo’s job is to preserve the hard work of players like Derek Jeter
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don’t agree with your overall pov, but that IS a great line.
For all the NY/NJ fans that have Yes, which one of you can confirm that
Michael Kay will NOT be broadcasting any of the “west coast” road games beginning this Friday?
# Warning Track Power May 25th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
For all the NY/NJ fans that have Yes, which one of you can confirm that
Michael Kay will NOT be broadcasting any of the “west coast” road games beginning this Friday?
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CT has Yes …when is Kay’s contract up ?
joeman-
i can tolerate Kay more than ever before. like today, O’Neill was in the booth and it just so happen he’s my favorite “guest host” during the year.
in the past i have noticed a pattern where Kay does not join the team when the Yankees travel to the west coast. i was just looking for confirmation
DRob30 Another solid win today! Congrats to Mo on 1000 games. How unbelievable is that?!
Warning Track Power May 25th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
. like today, O’Neill was in the booth and it just so happen he’s my favorite “guest host” during the year.
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Mine too! I love O’Neill
DRob30 Now off to Tuscaloosa. Nervous to see what’s left of my hometown. http://www.highsocksforhope.com
I wouldn’t make that trade of Swisher for Lowe. Derek Lowe’s on the backside of his career. He’ll get clobbered in the AL East. Swisher is mired in a gosh-awful slump. I saw his last AB in the game, and he was trying to jerk everything. He was opening up his hips way too much. Very typical for somebody mired in a slump. IMO (take it with an entire saltshaker) is that he needs to follow the Kevin Long system – don’t move your feet, rotate thru the hips; and try to go up the middle, the classic advice for breaking out of a slump.
Swisher is fixable, and still in his prime years. Lowe is at the end of his career. I wouldn’t make that deal.
Kay has a salary of $426 thousand a year..
LGY May 25th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
WCYF
If you can take the time to stop hating Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, and Andy Pettitte I would love to hear you tell us why Mo was more valuable to the Yankee dynasty than those three.
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I expect he’s searching for an answer at this moment.
Joeman,
Uhm don’t know…..they need a CFer pretty bad and Gardner would fit nicely atop that lineup……they are loaded with pitching organizationally as well…..don’t know but seems fair to.me.
okay, so I pushed for them to DFA Jones earlier today – maybe I am the reason he came out and hit a couple of dingers. My wife believes I control the weather (like I get in trouble for saying that it won’t rain and then it does), so why not also home runs from under performing outfielders?
I think DRob is in for a shock. It’s a nice thing he’s done, starting that foundation. The Sports Illustrated cover story about Tuscaloosa is terrific, by the way, in case anyone’s interested in checking it out.
Question
Did Michael Kay say something during a game in the past few weeks that Catholics might find offensive? I promise I am going somewhere with this.
# PacoDooley May 25th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
okay, so I pushed for them to DFA Jones earlier today – maybe I am the reason he came out and hit a couple of dingers. My wife believes I control the weather (like I get in trouble for saying that it won’t rain and then it does), so why not also home runs from under performing outfielders?
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Could you say something bad about Swish before the next game?
LGY says:
May 25, 2011 at 5:58 pm
yawn
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Mo’s impact on the Yankee Dynasty and the success of the team over the past 16+ years is overrated and overstated.
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Mo is the greatest relief pitcher of all time. That said, relief pitchers are the most overrated players on the diamond. Closers spearheading that ridiculousness. People make it seem like without Rivera close games would have all been lost. The Yanks would have had a lesser closer and the Yankees still would have had insane offensive production and good SP. That is in no way a knock on Mariano.
The most important player on the Yankee dynasty teams was Jeter or Posada IMHO. Maybe even Bernie. HoF hitters from typically weak offensive positions are almost irreplaceable and the dynasty probably doesn’t happen with average production from those 3 spots.
JM May 25th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
# PacoDooley May 25th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
okay, so I pushed for them to DFA Jones earlier today – maybe I am the reason he came out and hit a couple of dingers. My wife believes I control the weather (like I get in trouble for saying that it won’t rain and then it does), so why not also home runs from under performing outfielders?
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Could you say something bad about Swish before the next game?
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How long can this first-place team afford to carry a light-hitting rightfielder that keeps striking out. They need to get someone like the ghost of Marcus Thames in there to provide some offence and defense (okay, that’s pushing it a little)|…
bad news….Red Sox top 3 are on fire
Lester has won 7 of his last 8 starts
Beckett’s ERA is 1.69 on the year
Buchholtz in his last 5 starts only gave up a total of 6 runs earned
new one