From there to here: Soriano’s injury history
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 26, 2011 
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The Yankees top offseason addition has already seen Dr. James Andrews, and that’s rarely a good sign.
Sounds like Rafael Soriano is going to miss another two months or so, and although it’s always hard to allow for and anticipate injuries, the Yankees certainly weren’t looking at a clean medical history when they gave Soriano three years, $35 million this offseason. The elbow, in particular, had been a problem.
August 30, 1996: Signed as an outfielder with the Mariners. Converted to pitcher in 1999.
April, 2001: Opened on the High-A disabled list with right elbow sprain.
May 10, 2002: Major League debut vs. Boston.
July 10, 2002: Placed on 15-day disabled list with right shoulder strain.
May 12, 2004: Place on 15-day disabled list with right elbow sprain.
August 17, 2004: Tommy John surgery.
September 5, 2005: Activated by Seattle after recovering from surgery.
July 29, 2006: Placed on 15-day disabled list with right shoulder fatigue.
August 29, 2006: Suffered a concussion when hit in the head by a Vladimir Guerrero line drive.
April 7, 2008: Placed on 15-day disabled list with right elbow tendonitis.
June 6, 2008: Placed on 15-day disabled list with right elbow inflammation.
August 3, 2008: Placed on the 15-day disabled list with right elbow inflammation.
August 28, 2008: Ulnar nerve transposition surgery and bone spur removed. Soon transfered to 60-day disabled list.
Associated Press photo
Ugh – maybe this will teach Levine and Hal to stay out of baseball operations…
and maybe pigs will fly…
On a sad note, baseball lost a fan today… condolences to this guy’s family.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....all-052611
http://www.highsocksforhope.com – just a gentle reminder.
Cashman looks like a true genius now after publicly stating his opposition to Soriano’s deal. Part of me thinks that they are better off without Soriano who is a bad fit for the Yankee organization. Robertson is really coming into his own. As long as Girardi does not “Proctor” Robertson, he could end up being much better than a healthy Soriano be season’s end.
sunny the highsocksforhope website doesn’t load properly.
Maybe Cervelli to Giants. Jesus up.
I like Robertson but his WHIP is way too high. 15 walks in 19 innings concerns me.
Really shocked that the sox bombed Scherzer. We couldn’t touch him last time
Pat M
Nice to see you still check in at times.
I like your West Coast info from your insiders.
Boras is a stunningly incredible agent.
We couldn’t touch him last time
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But we bombed him the first time, baseball.
Jerkface,
His velocity was down and he wasn’t yet in season mode
his velocity was down? i assume you don’t want anyone to actually look that up…
sunny615
“”"Ugh – maybe this will teach Levine and Hal to stay out of baseball operations…
and maybe pigs will fly…”"
Agreed
You would have also thought this after the Raul Mondesi debacle
Jeff Weaver Debacle
Jarret Wright Debacle
Kei Igawa
A-Rod’s New contract…
But alas.. Better hope and pray Cash decides to stay out, or Randy Levine prob becomes the GM and Trades Montero, Banuelos, and Nunez for Bronson Arroyo… Could be a dark decade…..
Rich-
His M.O. is to find the one dumb owner.
Looks like he succeeded again.
His velocity was down and he wasn’t yet in season mode
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He must be tiring now then, since this is around when he got sent down last year. So the sox managed to get him at a vulnerable point.
Irreverent Discourse,
Go look it up. He was awful in spring training and that carried over into the regular season
The RS have brought Reddick up and are playing him today so they can showcase him for the big trade some say they are working on.
Really shocked that the sox bombed Scherzer. We couldn’t touch him last time
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It’s not like the Sox executed some great strategy. Scherzer couldn’t throw a strike and had no feel for his breaking stuff.
The Sox have run into starters on back to back days who went to the mound with absolutely nothing. It happens.
MTU
It’s a gift!
germfree – Just looked through the game log for the April 3rd Scherzer outing, his fastball was at 91-92 just like he always is, maybe averaging 1mph under his usual? Not a big deal. His fastball velocity has actually dropped steadily over the last 3 years. Scherzer is young and inconsistent, nothing more nothing less.
Oh Scherzer, up yours?
Rich-
Yes. To his clients.
Scherzer just ruined my fantasy baseball pitching stats for today.
MTU
*zing*
We did hit Lester and Price but for the most part the Red Sox have an easier time hitting quality pitching then we do
It’s easy to make unsubstantiated claims like that, how about some proof.
We did hit Lester and Price but for the most part the Red Sox have an easier time hitting quality pitching then we do
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Looking at the game logs… nope.
Aceves has turned out to be good insurance for the Sux. He’s beating Detroit today, 5 IP with 1 run and 5 strike outs so far. His ERA this season is 2.30
Irreverent Discourse May 26th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
sunny the highsocksforhope website doesn’t load properly.
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Odd, i get the underconstruction website where you can mail in the checks if you want to help but no online donations yet. But if you have trouble, the address to send the check is:
If you would like to make a donation, please make checks payable to “The David and Erin Robertson Foundation” and mail to:
Fidelity Charitable Gift Fund
PO Box 770001
Cincinnati, OH 45277-0053
Looks like there’ll be a first place tie after today.
# Bad Scooter May 26th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Maybe Cervelli to Giants. Jesus up.
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Someone just sent me an email that this rumor is being discussed on WFAN. Any more info?
Jerkface,
They also hardly ever get shut down by great pitching like we do. Not very many 8 innings 10 ks 2 or 3 hitters against them
JM-
What could the Yankees reasonably expect in return for Cervelli assuming this rumor were true ?
Cliff Lee just hit a ground-rule double to break a 4-4 tie in the 6th vs. the Reds.
One of the baserunners he knocked in was Wilson Valdez, who was the winning pitcher in last night’s 19-inning game. Now it’s 7-4 Phillies.
Let’s say they hold on and Lee gets the win. Has the winning pitcher of a game ever batted in the winning pitcher of the team’s previous game before?
It can’t be very common.
# MTU May 26th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
JM-
What could the Yankees reasonably expect in return for Cervelli assuming this rumor were true ?
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A bag of baseballs?
JM-
That’s what I thought.
Maybe a B level prospect ?
STARTER
Joba’s scaled back his fastball usage from last year, down to 56% from 65.3%, and is using his curveball exactly twice as often (10.6% after 5.3%). Throwing some more breaking balls is one thing, but it’s when he’s throwing them that’s really interesting…
…In his first full season as a reliever in 2010, Chamberlain threw a first pitch fastball more than seven out of ten times. He’s scaled it back a bit this year, instead mixing in some more first pitch sliders and curveballs. Joba’s first pitch strike percentage is essentially the same (58.1% in 2011 after 58.4% in 2010), so he’s not “stealing strikes” with this approach nor is he getting batters to swing at the first pitch more than he did last year (9.7% in 2011 after 11.8% in 2010).
Essentially all Joba has been doing is giving hitters a different look. First pitch offspeed stuff is just a friendly reminder that the pitcher is comfortable throwing any pitch at any time, which makes life that much harder on the hitter*. It’s probably not a coincidence that batters are swinging at 36.6% of the pitches Joba’s thrown them out of the strike zone, the highest rate of his career (it was 35.1% in 2007) and a top 15 mark among all relievers (Mariano Rivera is actually first at 44.2%).”
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....tch-49024/
We did hit Lester and Price but for the most part the Red Sox have an easier time hitting quality pitching then we do
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I’m calling Bravo Sierra on this one. For the most part, nobody hits high quality pitching that well, but I’d love to see some evidence that says Boston hits it more, or better than the Yankees.
Red Sux in last two games are beating up on Detroit 22-3. Boston’s bats that good? Or Detroit pitching that bad?
They beat Haren twice,Weaver,Romero,Sabathia and now today Scherzer.
They did lose to Price one time
The Sox have scored 2 runs or less in 25% of their games this season.
Red Sux in last two games are beating up on Detroit 22-3. Boston’s bats that good? Or Detroit pitching that bad?
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Boston played the Indians yesterday. They have good bats, but that was also a bad pitcher pitching his first time off the DL. Guy they faced today is good, but had a miserable day.
The Sox have scored 1 run or less on 16% of their games this season.
They also hardly ever get shut down by great pitching like we do. Not very many 8 innings 10 ks 2 or 3 hitters against them
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THey have been shut out 4 times and struck out 10+ times 7 times. The yankees score more runs than them. They have been held to 2 runs or less more than the Yankees. The Yankees have lit up Scherzer, Price, Lester, Buchholz, beat verlander twice.
And by all rights the red sox SHOULD do better offensively, they play in a park with a high runs and hits factor. The Yankees ballpark has a HR factor, but for the most part it plays even.
Plus the Sox come back more late in games.
Face it, the Sox are real good. But so are the Yanks. That’s why they play the season.
Face it, the Sox are real good. But so are the Yanks. That’s why they play the season.
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thats why I picked them to be the wild card
So if the Red Sox allegedly hit better pitching than the Yanks do, they apparently also don’t hit mediocre pitching as well as the Yanks do.
Over the course of a 162 game season, they’re going to see a helluva lot more middle of the road arms than elite arms.
The new king of unsubstantiated nonsense.
The Yanks hit Scherzer pretty well the first time they saw him…..it was just overshadowed by Hughes getting bombed.
LGY…..interesting re: Joba.
The Sox are on pace to score 757 runs.
The 2008 Yankees scored 32 more than that.
The Yankee offense has been way better. Not close at this point.
Despite having better pitching, a better offense, and a better bullpen, a better GM, a better stadium, better wives, better gimmicks, better announcers, a better RSN, and better fans, the red sox will at best be tied with the yankees by the end of the day.
Viva le yankee universe
Germfree Adolescents – Grand statements, but with nothing to back them up… what good are they?
Every year, people continue to repeat the same crap over and over again about how the Yanks supposedly don’t hit good pitchers as well as the Red Sox do whether the accusation is based on facts or total BS.
jerkface – They’ll never have better trolls, take that one to the grave
LOL! The Sox come back more??
They are 1-15 when behind entering the 7th inning.
Hecor Correa of San Jose?
When I was reminded of the Posey injury earlier in a converastion I was having, I quickly thought of the injury Jeter suffered all those years ago in Toronto.
He was sliding into 3rd base, a catcher slammed into him and I think Jeter broke his collarbone.
Who else remembers that play?
The Sox are 2-13 when behind entering the FOURTH INNING.
Irreverent Discourse,
The Red Sox don’t get embarrassed by elite pitching like the Yanks do at times
LGY – Boston starts their comebacks in the 3rd inning, don’t you know anything? They come back from 0 run deficits ALL THE TIME.
germfree – false. not only false, you are now flat out lying.
again, prove it and stop posting oneliners that no one believes anyway.
“Despite having better pitching, a better offense, and a better bullpen, a better GM, a better stadium, better wives, better gimmicks, better announcers, a better RSN, and better fans, the red sox will at best be tied with the yankees by the end of the day. ”
Yes but, the Yankees record is not reflective of a first place team. Whereas the Red Sox record shows that they are true champions.
Face it ID this Yank team has a ton of holes. They are not that great
Germfree – Your posts are not that great, for that I can be certain.
It’s a shame your unproven anecdotes carry absolutely no weight and no one believes them because you don’t offer even the slightest shred of proof.
The Yankees are a better team, because I said so. Now what.
is the Cervelli/SF rumor just a suggestion someone called in or are there legs to it?
I thank the people on this board that bother to post facts/stats to back up their claims and refute trolls/idiots.
Face it ID this Yank team has a ton of holes. They are not that great
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They aren’t that great. This is true. However, their competition, which includes the Red Sox, isn’t either. There are no teams without fairly significant holes right now. Yankees have fewer than most.
is the Cervelli/SF rumor just a suggestion someone called in or are there legs to it?
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Legless
ac1-If the Giants want Cervi, yes please. Just as long as the Yankees receive player(s) that can help the team win today and tomorrow.
Legless
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Posey noooo
I think Posada suffered a similar injury to Posey’s in the mL.
because i have no issue with cervelli, but i am for anything that gets Montero to the majors now, so he can start learning major league pitching and get the inevitable struggles out of the way.
People around here aren’t even convinced Cervelli should be a backup, what are the Giants going to do with him?
I’m convinced that Cervelli needs more time in the mL.
Mell,
The Sox have a better top 3
The Sox have a better top 3
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Top 3 what?
that’s a shame about Buster Posey, I hope he comes back 100% next year. Baseball needs young stars like him.
And the next time a Yankees catcher chooses not to put his body in front of home plate please think about Posey before posting that the catcher has no guts.
I’m assuming he means Lester/Beckett/Buchholz is better than CC/Colon/Burnett
The RS top three is pitching better now, I’m not sure they are better over the course of a season.
And for all the grief that Garcia gets, he may just be able to turn in a very good season.
Nobody will prob agree here that they have a better top 3 though
Rich in NJ,
So you think Colon will stay the same or get better then he is now?
Baseball needs young stars like him.
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Perfect time to bring up Montero to fill the void Posey has left behind.
Its May, and for all the talk about how this Sox team was hands down the greatest thing since sliced bread, they are only working to get to a tie for first with the Yankees…
So you think Colon will stay the same or get better then he is now?
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Unlikely, but i doubt anyone expects Beckett to keep his ERA under 2 all year either.
GA
Given his velo, command, and movement, I expect Colon to be better.
I know that Beckett won’t finish the season with a 241 ERA+.
based on what I’ve seen of Garcia this year it would not surprise me to see him in the Yankees rotation for the next 2 or 3 years-the guy just knows how to pitch and Moose taught us a few years ago you don’t need to throw 90+ to win lots of games.
I could also see Colon here, I wonder if the Yankees could have thoughts of putting him in the ‘pen next year as a setup guy, he certainly could throw 95+ in short bursts and has great control. That doesn’t mean I don’t like him in the rotation right now but he’ll be 38 next year and you have to figure at least one of the prospects will show enough to join the rotation.
Nobody will prob agree here that they have a better top 3 though
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Are you just going to keep throwing stuff at the wall until something sticks?
ac1,
You can make a case for the back of the rotation but I don’t think the top 3 is even close
btw, I also think Nova will have a terrific 2nd half.
I hope we see Hughes, but I’m not going to speculate on that.
Rich in NJ,
You expect Colon to finish with a better season then Beckett? Man people on this blog are delusional.
I suppose Colon will be better then King Felix as well.
“You can make a case for the back of the rotation but I don’t think the top 3 is even close”
Close in age?
Throwing the tarp down in the 8th inning of a 14-1 game? That is some cold sh*t.
Germfree Adolescents May 26th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
ac1,
You can make a case for the back of the rotation but I don’t think the top 3 is even close
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I dont think it is as off as you do. I agree the Sox look better at the top, but i dont bet against CC in the second half, Colon could keep up an era around 3.5 and Burnett can be as good as he is.
I get by on the fact that the yankees have been winning games without 5 aces for the last 10 years….
By the playoffs, i assume they will have a sub-ace to go with CC.
GA
I didn’t say that. You are dishonest for suggesting I did.
I merely said that Colon could get better and that Beckett will likely not maintain his other worldly level.
Distorting posts is an admission of being clueless. So you have outed yourself.
Rich in NJ,
You expect Colon to finish with a better season then Beckett? Man people on this blog are delusional.
I suppose Colon will be better then King Felix as well.
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I think the point is that Colon will balance out and Beckett is headed for an adjustment.
No one really said Colon will end the season with a better ERA than Beckett.
Boston has had those three in the rotation for a couple years and havent done much in october.
yankees have won with less pitching. .
IMO the RS do have a better looking token female roving reporter (Heidi something or other?). I’d like to post revealing pictures to prove the point, but don’t have time…so perhaps someone else can. Please?!
I merely said that Colon could get better and that Beckett will likely not maintain his other worldly level.
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I think the Beckett scenario is far more likely than the Colon one.
Let’s see who is in the Yankee rotation in July …..also they are currently getting much more from their 4th and 5th than Boston is.
Rich in NJ May 26th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
GA
Given his velo, command, and movement, I expect Colon to be better
I’d have to agree with BoJo there.
Heidi Watney > Kim Jones
The Red Sox don’t have Michael Kay…..that’s their only advantage.
IMO the RS do have a better looking token female roving reporter (Heidi something or other?). I’d like to post revealing pictures to prove the point, but don’t have time…so perhaps someone else can. Please?!
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No pics, but you speak the truth here.
Germfree Adolescents May 26th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Mell,
The Sox have a better top 3
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Their reporter has a better top 2.
In response to you asking if Colon will stay the same or improve.
Oh yes…..and Heidi
Looks like Carl Crawford has found himself again.
During one of the games they really fetishized Heidi Watney by making her eat an entire hotdog on camera, she wasn’t allowed to use her teeth either
ac1 May 26th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I’d have to agree with BoJo there.
Heidi Watney > Kim Jones
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That’s the one–thx! Why can’t we get reporters like that?!
They have Heidi AND RemDogg….
# Warning Track Power May 26th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
When I was reminded of the Posey injury earlier in a converastion I was having, I quickly thought of the injury Jeter suffered all those years ago in Toronto.
He was sliding into 3rd base, a catcher slammed into him and I think Jeter broke his collarbone.
Who else remembers that play?
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:Raises hand:
I remember it vividly. But I think it was a dislocated shoulder. I was sooo pissed, because it was very early in the year and he was off to a really good start. I think the TOR catcher was John Buck.
Somewhere I have a video of a Boston Red Sox game where a female fan behind the plate exposes herself between pitches. Based on that, I would also have to give the nod to Boston fans behind the plate to our corporate fans who sit there.
Are you so stupid that you can’t remember your own posts?
Germfree Adolescents May 26th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Rich in NJ May 26th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
GA
Given his velo, command, and movement, I expect Colon to better.
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That was In response to the question you posed a few minutes earlier:
Germfree Adolescents May 26th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Rich in NJ,
So you think Colon will stay the same or get better then he is now?
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Better in comparison to how he is pitching now, not in comparison to Beckett.
You’re a dishonest fool.
i live in boston.
i dont know that you want to see girls exposing themselves up here….
Unless they are transplants from the South.
Looks like Carl Crawford has found himself again.
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After 2 games against horrible pitching?
I think the TOR catcher was John Buck
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It was one Ken Huckaby.
Nothing like a 2 game winning streak and power output to get everyone back on the Sox bandwagon…
Benny Blanco May 26th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Looks like Carl Crawford has found himself again.
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He never lost it. Only some of the less informed here thought so. He went from a low pressure dome in Tampa to being under the microscope in Boston and he started on the road. It’s taken him a while to get adjusted. That he is a premium talent was never in doubt.
I still believe that the reason the Yankees did not go after Holliday was because they knew Crawford would be available in 2011. But after Gardner’s decent year, they opted for the $450k salary and that I can understand. But Crawford is a great talent.
LGY,
Scherzer is horrible?
Nothing like a 2 game winning streak and power output to get everyone back on the Sox bandwagon…
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Notice there are no posts about their offense being inconsistent or that the numbers are “misleading”
BTW–picking up on yesterday’s comments…best commercial ever..I am pretty sure this one is for doubleheaders…
http://www.collegehumor.com/vi.....rcial-ever
LGY, Scherzer is horrible
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He was throwing batting practice. Did you watch him pitch?
Scherzer is horrible?
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Horrible today.
He couldnt throw anything for strikes, except the balls that were getting hammered in hitters counts.
After 2 games against horrible pitching?
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Hittin’ .300 and OPSing around .800 for the month of May. He’s been better lately.
Hittin’ .300 and OPSing around .800 for the month of May. He’s been better lately.
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Completely a product of his last two games. He had a sub 7 OPS in May a few days ago.
Crawford never lost anything …..he’s still what he was…..a good not great player that’s being paid like a superstar.
ac1,
so whenever the Red Sox hit someone its because they are horrible for that given dy
WCYF,
I agree, Crawford is a talent, he had to get used to the pressure cooker.
In other news, can’t believe cano only has 8 walks in 182 AB
Crawford had a .683 OPS in May two days ago.
so whenever the Red Sox hit someone its because they are horrible for that given dy
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When a starter with a 6-1 record and 3 ERA allows 14 runs?
Yes. That’s exactly what it is.
After it was obvious Schrezer had nothing, the Sox announces mentioned how they were fortunate to run into pitchers two days in a row who had nothing.
according to some here, the back to back 14 runs dont count when talking about the offense.
Or is that just when the Yankees score 14 runs?
ac1 May 26th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
so whenever the Red Sox hit someone its because they are horrible for that given dy
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When a starter with a 6-1 record and 3 ERA allows 14 runs?
Yes. That’s exactly what it is.
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Or perhaps he was working on his new home run pitch.
papers [nypost] have cashman as a wizz for not wanting soriano. what about not keeping aceves, bad move
The RedSox may as well have scored 0 runs the last 2 days. Don’t they know blowouts don’t count? Such a waste!
Is there an uncredited college somewhere that teaches their students that baseball is a 5 on 5 game or a 3 on 3 game? It seems we have been getting a slew of its recent graduates coming here and trying to compare a small part of the 25 man team between teams.
If they had gone to a accredited baseball college, they would of course know that baseball is a 25 man team sport, and it is a team versus team event…not a basketball pickup game.
papers [nypost] have cashman as a wizz for not wanting soriano. what about not keeping aceves, bad move
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Not necessarily.
Aceves had a history of being injured (back).
With our luck, AA would have stayed here and been hurt all year…
Garcia/Colon are doing ok in his place.
Whatever the case may be, they scored 28 runs in two days and their pitching staff allowed 3 runs — on the road.
frankyb – Aceves pitches exactly like this every year. Then in July his back starts acting up and he goes missing for 2 months.
ac1 – Nick Johnson and Eric Chavez had a history of being injured as well. That didn’t stop Cashman.
In fact, over the course of a season, it is more like a 40 man team versus other 40 man teams.
After it was obvious Schrezer had nothing, the Sox announces mentioned how they were fortunate to run into pitchers two days in a row who had nothing
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That’s a weak argument LGY. Shall we discount yesterday’s offensive accomplishments because they were against the lowly Jo Jo Reyes? Does this mean the entire Brad Bergerson game really doesn’t count? How about the beatings of Dave Bush and Cody Eppley down in Texas? Chris Capuano? Fact is that most big numbers are put up against bad pitching. Yankees are no more an exception to that rule than the Red Sox are.
Whatever the case may be, they scored 28 runs in two days and their pitching staff allowed 3 runs —on the road.
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Hilarious. You would be complaining about the Yanks misleading offense if they did the same thing.
frankyb May 26th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
papers [nypost] have cashman as a wizz for not wanting soriano. what about not keeping aceves, bad move
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22 IP for Aceves. The correct grade would be an INC.
I wonder if Seattle fans regret trading away Choo, Cabrera and Lee at this point.
Fact is that most big numbers are put up against bad pitching. Yankees are no more an exception to that rule than the Red Sox are.
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Isn’t that LGY’s point? That you can’t diss the Yankees offense while praising the Red Sox because same thing
That’s a weak argument LGY. Shall we discount yesterday’s offensive accomplishments because they were against the lowly Jo Jo Reyes? Does this mean the entire Brad Bergerson game really doesn’t count? How about the beatings of Dave Bush and Cody Eppley down in Texas? Chris Capuano? Fact is that most big numbers are put up against bad pitching. Yankees are no more an exception to that rule than the Red Sox are
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I’m not discounting the Sox offense. I’m saying its silly to pronounce Crawford is fixed based on two games against horrible pitching. That’s what I was responding to.
2 out of 162 games is a brilliant way to judge a season.
Isn’t that LGY’s point? That you can’t diss the Yankees offense while praising the Red Sox because same thing
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That too on the broader scale.
ac1 – Nick Johnson and Eric Chavez had a history of being injured as well. That didn’t stop Cashman.
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Exactly, so you can imagine his hesitation to keep that trend going.
ac1 May 26th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
ac1 – Nick Johnson and Eric Chavez had a history of being injured as well. That didn’t stop Cashman.
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Exactly, so you can imagine his hesitation to keep that trend going.
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Ok lol. I’ll buy that.
so basically if someone on the Sox have gotten off to a good start it is too early to say its for real but when someone gets off to a good start with the Yanks it is for real and will last
When Soriano got off to his horrible start people here were saying I still think he contributes in the second half. Now that he is only missing 6 to 8 weeks people say the same thing. This guy willnot pitch again this year
Baseball Prospectus has the Yanks with a better third order winning percentage than the Sox so far (adjusts for quality of opponents played so far), but gives the Sox a 61% chance of winning the division and a 90% chance of making the playoffs while giving the Yanks a 35% chance of winning the division and an 80% chance of making the playoffs.
The reality is this. Those of us who pointed out that the Sux start was an aberration and meant little based on their talent were right on the money. This will go down to the wire like it always does unless injuries to key players come into play.
This guy willnot pitch again this year
I think there are still a few more topics you haven’t made unproven claims on. Andrew Jones and Derek Jeter are a little insulted…
Unlike you I’m not delusional to think Soriano will be effective in the second half
It did not take some prophetic genius to figure out the RedSox were not going to go 2-160.
You have a real hard time seperating the loonies that come in here for one-off posts and the people that stick around and actually think before they form their opinions.
We will really know the exact date of the Rapture when ID actually admits he was wrong about something
Germfree Adolescents May 26th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Unlike you I’m not delusional to think Soriano will be effective in the second half
/clap /clap
Unlike you, we aren’t delusional enough to believe all of the other nonsense you post.
You believe an injured pitcher won’t be effective when he comes back. You must have gone to medical school to come up with that. Absolutely brilliant.
germfree – I have nothing to be wrong about, because I’m not the one coming here making boldfaced claims that I can’t back up. You are.
The rapture will come when all stupid people realize they are stupid.
The point is he won’t come back
Lets be thankful its just out 8th inning guy that might be out the season. How would you like to be the Giants. Posey broken leg out for the season. Tough break for S.F.(no pun intended).
Germfree Adolescents May 26th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
The point is he won’t come back
No… the point is you can’t possibly know that, so why say it?
for the same reason I know Marte won’t pitch another game for them