Game 50: Yankees at Mariners
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 28, 2011 
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YANKEES (27-22)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Russell Martin C
Jorge Posada DH
Nick Swisher RF
Brett Gardner LF
RHP Ivan Nova (4-3, 4.29)
Nova vs. Mariners
MARINERS (25-25)
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Chone Figgins 3B
Justin Smoak 1B
Jack Cust DH
Franklin Gutierrez CF
Adam Kennedy 2B
Miguel Olivo C
Carlos Peguero LF
Brendan Ryan SS
RHP Felix Hernandez (5-4, 3.01)
Hernandez vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 10:10 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network
WEATHER: This was a very nice day here in Seattle. No rain, just a few clouds. Not cold, just cool enough to feel comfortable in a long-sleeved shirt.
UMPIRES: HP Sam Holbrook, 1B Gerry Davis, 2B Greg Gibson, 3B Todd Tichenor
GROUNDED: All four Mariners runs last night were scored on ground outs, with no sacrifice flies or RBI hits allowed. According to Elias, it was the Yankees first such loss when allowing at least four runs since July 1, 1990 against the White Sox when Andy Hawkins did not allow a hit but gave up four runs with the help of two errors.
ON THE RUN: Derek Jeter is tied with Rickey Henderson for the most stolen bases in franchise history with 326. He’s still eight hits away from tying Sam Rice for 28th on baseball’s all-time list. He’s seven runs away from tying Willie Keeler for 22nd most all time.
THE GUY’S GOOD: The Yankees have not beaten Felix Hernandez since May 3, 2008 at the original Yankee Stadium.
ON THIS DATE: On May 28, 1948, the original Yankee Stadium hosted its first night game. A crowd of 49,917 showed up to watch the Yankees lose to Washington, 2-1.
UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: Not easy to hit a home run in this park on a good night, but on this night it’s going to get pretty chilly, and right now the wind is blowing in from left-center field.
UPDATE, 10:24 p.m.: Less than 20 minutes after I wrote that it would be hard to hit a ball out tonight, Robinson Cano has gone deep for a 1-0 Yankees lead in the second inning. It would be really difficult for someone to give me a million dollars tonight, too!
UPDATE, 10:46 p.m.: Leadoff walk came back to hurt Nova in the bottom of the second. He got three straight ground balls after that, but one went for an infield single, and the Yankees couldn’t quite turn two on the others. It’s now tied at 1.
UPDATE, 10:52 p.m.: Well there ya go. Derek Jeter is now the Yankees all-time stolen base leader. Meanwhile, he and Granderson did a nice job there make sure Granderson replaced Jeter at second on that comebacker.
UPDATE, 10:54 p.m.: Teixeira actually has solid numbers are Hernandez, and he just went deep for a 3-0 Yankees lead in the third.
UPDATE, 11:01 p.m.: I believe Ivan Nova just set a record for the most players hit in the head by one pitch.
UPDATE, 11:18 p.m.: Nova was putting on a ground ball show, but a single and back-to-back doubles have tied the game at 3 in the fourth.
UPDATE, 11:26 p.m.: And now it’s Seattle in front. A ground ball up the middle goes for an RBI single and the Mariners have a 4-3 lead in the fourth.
UPDATE, 11:28 p.m.: Ground balls are usually a great, great sign for Nova. But now he’s laboring a little bit and Hector Noesi is already getting loose in the fourth inning. That’s rarely a good sign.
UPDATE, 11:32 p.m.: And here’s Noesi.
UPDATE, 12:03 p.m.: Cano trying to steal second. That made sense.
UPDATE, 12:26 p.m.: It honestly felt like the Yankees were losing this game by seven. Now it’s a tied game on Jeter’s walk and Granderson’s game-tying triple.
UPDATE, 12:43 p.m.: Dave Robertson. Very good. Very, very good.
UPDATE, 1:03 a.m.: Third fan on the field tonight, and this one was naked. I have no idea what they’re serving here tonight, but there must have been plenty of it.
UPDATE, 1:11 a.m.: Not sure TV will do it justice. That was a great play by Rodriguez to end the eighth.
UPDATE, 1:49 a.m.: A little redemption for Boone Logan? I think so.
UPDATE, 2:08 a.m.: And there’s some redemption for Ayala. I’m tired.
I love watching the King pitch, I just wished it wasn’t against us.
sp – just wish
would really like to see them leave Sea with King….
Go Super Nova!
Settle down, young ‘un.
Hi all
Just wanted to say hi and hope everyone is doing well.
While I was away, I didn’t go on the computer at all – and it felt good – but I did follow the Yankees somewhat (well, really, just checked the scores). It seems they’ve played ok, not great. The Sox have been ridiculously good for a month now – very impressive. The news on Soriano was not good, but it could have been worse, I suppose.
This is a team that Nova should be able to contain. A bunch of swingers.
What are the chances that Cano takes the first pitch?
# Betsy May 28th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Hi all
Just wanted to say hi and hope everyone is doing well.
While I was away, I didn’t go on the computer at all – and it felt good – but I did follow the Yankees somewhat (well, really, just checked the scores). It seems they’ve played ok, not great. The Sox have been ridiculously good for a month now – very impressive. The news on Soriano was not good, but it could have been worse, I suppose.
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bet you have a lot of email
Nova shouldn’t feel any pressure at all tonight; very few expect him to best the King. Against this team he may just surprise us. May being the operative word.
What are the chances that Cano takes the first pitch?
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I dunno, but one thing I don’t like about Cano is that his plate discipline is super forced. Like where he obviously puts the bat on his shoulder and doesn’t even assume a good hitting position to take the first pitch. Its like he does it with disdain instead of buying into it. If he can identify pitches, then he should be able to learn to lay off the bad ones.
I still say that Cano’s struggles in May were a direct result of his getting hit on the left hand. Suddenly he was no longer driving the ball and his righty splits have been atypically poor. I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
Cano!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There you go Cano!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woot! Great AB.
Yay Cano, see what getting into a hitters count can mean?!
just as long as they don’t have to get into that pen to early…..like to see Nova get them 7 innings
BOOM CA-YES
there ya go…..
take felix down, then bring him to ny
I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
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you are a prophet
Don’t we get two runs for that?
Robbie Cano dontcha know
Lets make that hold up.
I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
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I think he has had a lot of physical ailments as well, but if you’re hurt it shouldn’t affect your plate discipline. A guy who can draw walks can draw walks even in a slump, having no plate discipline means you are overly reliant on your hitting.
yankeefeminista May 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I still say that Cano’s struggles in May were a direct result of his getting hit on the left hand. Suddenly he was no longer driving the ball and his righty splits have been atypically poor. I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
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Picked it up, there. Clairvoyant, much?
# ac1 May 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
there ya go…..
take felix down, then bring him to ny
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really
# Against All Odds May 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
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you are a prophet
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Dontcha know?
CC & King together for the next 5 years in NY
# Jerkface May 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
What are the chances that Cano takes the first pitch?
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I dunno, but one thing I don’t like about Cano is that his plate discipline is super forced. Like where he obviously puts the bat on his shoulder and doesn’t even assume a good hitting position to take the first pitch. Its like he does it with disdain instead of buying into it. If he can identify pitches, then he should be able to learn to lay off the bad ones.
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Yea I know what you mean. It’s almost like he says alright let me get this out of the way and then do what I do best. I’ve seen him do that many times and the ball is thrown directly over the plate.
# yankeefeminista May 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
# Against All Odds May 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
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you are a prophet
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Dontcha know?
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Now I need the lotto numbers. Work your magic
Cano has the smoothest swing in baseball
Who stole my Ca-Yes
Felix is plenty good he doesn’t need help from the ump on pitches off the plate
# Jerkface May 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
I expect him to pick it up now that he is again able to drive the ball, with that will come better plate discipline.
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I think he has had a lot of physical ailments as well, but if you’re hurt it shouldn’t affect your plate discipline. A guy who can draw walks can draw walks even in a slump, having no plate discipline means you are overly reliant on your hitting.
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Of course it will. You are overcompensating, mechanically out of whack, trying too hard to make things happen, especially with a scuffling offense around you. You are not a walker in the first place, why would you walk more or work the count if you are Cano? You wouldn’t. You (Cano) don’t adopt the mentality of a OBP/plate discipline type in that situation, you try to hit your way out of it. You are after all, Robinson Cano, who thinks you can hit everything and anything. You don’t suddenly turn into Bobby Abreu.
Felix gave up the same amount of run in 1 ip and 1 batter against us today than he did all of last year. And to think we wanted to trade for him.
Hi Betsy. Hope you are doing well.
Hitting with RISP continue
are not a walker in the first place, why would you walk more or work the count if you are Cano? You wouldn’t. You (Cano) don’t adopt the mentality of a OBP/plate discipline type in that situation, you try to hit your way out of it. You are after all, Robinson Cano, who thinks you can hit everything and anything. You don’t suddenly turn into Bobby Abreu.
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Yea Cano doesn’t walk, but if he bought into it he could help out more during slumps. Like if he can walk 8% of the time, why does it only have to be when he is mashing? Its that kind of mental limitation that might keep Cano from being elite year in and year out. He has such great hitting tools he is only hurting himself by not getting the most out of them.
Like the 40 pitches in 2 innings
# J. Alfred Prufrock
Cano is due to start pounding righties again.
Gardner with the right approach to Felix, stupid Paguero.
Well, we got our 1 run for tonite. Dejavu all over again?
Sorry for being negative but I think they should release Jorge on this road trip, pare the “home” headlines and share the DH with A-Rod, Jeter, et al. work Nunez at 3rd and short. I can’t stand this auto out anymore.
hope this doesn’t turn to a big inning pitch count for Nova
Sorry Igotid, I absolutely love that saying.
Back to giving free passes I see, lovely…
bruce, Posada’s being paid 13M. Get off the sauce, he’s not being released.
Cano is sos good at hitting I don’t feel like he thinks he needs to work the count to get a pitch he can “handle” although, he should. He would be near unstoppable.
Geez, now we need a ground ball bad.
Great, the mariners are the kings of the infield single. That’s why you can’t walk these AAA guys.
Like I said, dejavu.
why does it seem everytime we score, we try to give right back?
Nova needs to shut this down now
Come on Nova!!!
It would be nice to hold on to our 1 run for a little bit longer
# Jerkface May 28th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
are not a walker in the first place, why would you walk more or work the count if you are Cano? You wouldn’t. You (Cano) don’t adopt the mentality of a OBP/plate discipline type in that situation, you try to hit your way out of it. You are after all, Robinson Cano, who thinks you can hit everything and anything. You don’t suddenly turn into Bobby Abreu.
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Yea Cano doesn’t walk, but if he bought into it he could help out more during slumps. Like if he can walk 8% of the time, why does it only have to be when he is mashing? Its that kind of mental limitation that might keep Cano from being elite year in and year out. He has such great hitting tools he is only hurting himself by not getting the most out of them.
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For the time being, you’ll have to settle for the reverse: Cano will walk more once he is back in his hitting groove. It is what it is. However, he walked only at 5.6% in May of last year, but 10.8 and 12.3 in July and August, respectively. So, hopefully, it’s onward and upward from here.
Cano is sos good at hitting I don’t feel like he thinks he needs to work the count to get a pitch he can “handle” although, he should. He would be near unstoppable.
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Cano is so good but… he isn’t going to ever be a 1 OPS hitter without drawing a walk. Like he is so good he hit .320 the past 2 years with a .500 SLG, but why settle for that? Everyone says he will win a batting title someday, but he really needs plate discipline to do that.
Yankfem, with Cano it’s always just a matter of time.
I wish the Yanks could cash in their walks like the Mariners are about to do
that lead was short lived…
walk, crappy infield hit, crappy hit that you can’t turn 2 on, crappy hit that you can’t turn 2 on.
I guess we need worse hitters to sustain rallies
Getting killed with weak grounders in this series. Of course the dreaded lead off walk scores. Thats always a given
UnKnown May 28th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Sorry Igotid, I absolutely love that saying.
Back to giving free passes I see, lovely…
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Ca-Yes™
Like I SAID: dejavu. They’re not gonna win this game. Team sucks.
Is amazing how when Cano did work the count in his previous AB he bombed one. Pays off
with felix struggling to throw strikes, over/under on jeter taking 1 pitch?
Lots of outs have come on Felix’s slider. Seems to be his out pitch for sure.
Atta boy, Jete.
good start….
lets make it count this time.
That time Jeter singled on the sinker.
Pick up the base Jeter. Pick it up. lol
Jeter should pick up the base and hold it above his head
congrat’s jeter on passing rickey
That’s fine I will take that exchange for runners at 2nd.
Of course our ground out that would move the runner to third is speared by the pitcher
This teams base running and stealing bases is absolutely dreadful
Tex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tex continues to beast with RISP
TEX!!!
Tex is hot as a pistol.
T E X !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow!!! Tex!!!
Wow look at that. TEX
BOOM
This teams base running and stealing bases is absolutely dreadful
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Baserunning? Possibly, but they have done very well on steals recently.
Go Tex!!!
They might start pitching around him to get to Arod
He’s getting locked in.
All right, Tex! 3-1.
Alex just missed one
A-rod would have put that in the seats at yankee stadium
And they continue running bases like a little league team.
The King pitching like a Prince tonight.
I hope Nova doesn’t give these runs right back
Granderson has almost as many K’s as hits
Tex putting in work from the left side. I like that.
# West Coast Yankee Fan May 28th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
The King pitching like a Prince tonight.
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maybe his value will go down
Tex hits Felix well actually. I think he hits him at .298.
early in game but big inning for Nova
Seriously? Is it too much to ask for one shut down inning after scoring?
Great another lead off baserunner
Nova I wouldn’t want to make a habit of giving up leads in this game. Come on Man.
Nova will….
With Felix on the mound this has to be so frustrating ffor the offense to see Nova beat himself
Captain how has Nova beat himself? He’s up 3-1.
Nova just looks awful. The pitching just can’t produce a shutdown inning this series.
At least Nova is getting a lot of groundballs….
Yankees need to keep making Felix work.
No 9 inning complete game for him tonight.
Nova seems like he loses his focus on the mound
Captain how has Nova beat himself?
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Putting the lead off guy on base in 2 back to back innings isn’t a receipe for success. Especially considering how bad this lineup is.
Nice save
Well that was nearly a mess…
Wow, lucky there that Jeter was so close to second to for the flip after the bobble.
Don’t have to stress how we can’t have that tonight.
Good thing Jeter was able to recover. That is the last thing that Nova needs right now. His command is really awful.
Rconn23 huh?
Come on guys. Nova has given up 1 run through 3. He has a very good 46-24 strike to ball ratio.
Nova’s fine.
Just needs to keep the leadoff hitters off base.
Captain Clutch – 46-24 is hardly awful.
Hopefully they can get him out after 6 innings. Even though it didn’t help yesterday
He has a very good 46-24 strike to ball ratio.
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You misread that stat. He has thrown 50 pitches, 26 have been strikes. 50% is bad.
You guys just have to complain about everything. Nova is not pitching great, but he is keeping us in the game.
So that’s why Felix didn’t sign with the Yanks when he had the chance
DFA JORGE. DFA JORGE. DFA JORGE.
i’m sorry, love the guy and what he has done for the team, but f tradition. bye bye.
Stupid wind knocked down that Martin shot, looked good off the bat.
take swish w/ him. new blood.
Felix just averaged out his pitch count.
I guess Felix likes playing on a bad team with no attention
King Felix can hate the Yankees all he wants. We’ll keep our 27 championships and he can pitch his career with a team that will probably never win one.
I think that trading for a young right fielder is priority #1 this year….
Then a starter
Then a DH
DH isn’t too important because they can always bring up Montero.
Fielding.
stone hands at SS tonight
I keed I keed
and Jeter doing his best to help Felix out tonight….
ahhh, the standard error.
Well that stinks
Felix just became the new cliff lee lol
thanks jeter…
and this is the game right here ladies and gents. like i said…deja vu all over again. this team FAILS
You knew the error would come back to hurt them. When did Kennedy turn into a hall of famer?? Here come the infield hits to score the runs.
damn it
This is why strike outs are good.
. . . and not anymore.
Giving up a double to a guy hitting .230
Just pathetic. Nova has been very shaky his last couple of starts.
Darn. Now Felix is gonna be lights out from here on
hahahaahaha! game over. i’m embarrassed to be a yankee fan. overpaid, overhyped, UNDERACHIEVERS. cant wait for 3rd or 4th place.
Nova’s not the answer either. Nice way to take the lead away. This team just isn’t built to win with this current rotation. I’m sorry, but that’s the hard truth. You hit Felix and get some runs and you just can’t give them back.
Two home runs tonight. Pitching and defense went south. Pitching and defense wins ballgames.
if the yankees give up that fourth run, it is safe to say according to statistics that the yankees will just fold for the next 3-4 innings.
I had a feeling they would not give Jeter an error on that play
Jeter’s error turned into a hit, home cooking for seattle saves the captain.
just can’t rely on the 3-4-5 SP on this staff
It’s amazing that AJ and Nova can’t hold down the worst lineup ever
Nova’s stuff is just so marginal. He has no room for error.
just can’t rely on the 3-4-5 SP on this staff
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Yeah because Colon and Garcia have been horrible this year (sarcasm)
If there is a single person on this board who thinks Jorge should ever pick up a bat as a Yankees again please let me know and explain why? Just curious
It’s amazing that AJ and Nova can’t hold down the worst lineup ever
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Burnett only gave up two runs….
He and Pineda were really squeezed last night, hence the 5 walks each.
AJ isn’t cured by any means. He’s probably closer to old AJ than this new improved one. I can’t get worked up over this team anymore. I love them, but i’ve come to the conclusion that unless there’s a major trade involving our farm then it’s going to be very hard to make the playoffs.
no, jorge should be dismissed.
Nova is nothing but iffy at this stage of his career.
might as well mix in a wild pitch. why not?
What exactly did people expect from Nova this year?
Did you all think he’d be lights out?
# ac1 May 28th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
just can’t rely on the 3-4-5 SP on this staff
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Yeah because Colon and Garcia have been horrible this year (sarcasm)
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Colon & Garcia have 5 W’s total & really don’t want to hear about this ERA crap
Good idea. Infield in. Right play here
Youth, energy and athleticism is what the team needs desperately.
Nova will be great when he plays for a team that can play defense.
# mykyl1 May 28th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
If there is a single person on this board who thinks Jorge should ever pick up a bat as a Yankees again please let me know and explain why? Just curious
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I’m afraid there are $13 million reasons.
# 4 NYY May 28th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Nova is nothing but iffy at this stage of his career.
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Nova is a long relief man at best
Colon & Garcia have 5 W’s total & really don’t want to hear about this ERA crap
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ERA crap?
Yeah wins are a much better way to tell a quality pitcher than ERA.
Just ask Felix Hernandez.
(Stupid comment Joeman)
i love how people say old aj vs. new aj. the guy is like 34 yrs old and has been nothing but mediocre his WHOLE career. he is what he is…he sucks. i appreciate game 2 from the ws, other than that, it wouldn’t bother me if he blew his shoulder out his next outing. not wishing injury, just saying, he stinks. waste of talent; mental midget. just like Joba.
and that’s the game folks.
Nova always seems to have one of these innings where he gives up 3-4 runs, throws 30 pitches and loses focus.
go deep ichiro. you’re due.
Burnett only gave up two runs….
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Yeah but he only pitched 5 innings so the Yanks had to use the bad part of the bullpen. I would expect at least 7 innings afrom AJ against this lineup. The ump had a really small zone but AJ’s command was really bad.
and there goes the lead.. Disgusted with this. They give up 4 runs on groundouts last night and can’t hold this anemic offense down. Typical Yankee baseball.
# ac1 May 28th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Colon & Garcia have 5 W’s total & really don’t want to hear about this ERA crap
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ERA crap?
Yeah wins are a much better way to tell a quality pitcher than ERA.
Just ask Felix Hernandez.
(Stupid comment Joeman)
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it’s all about W’S……
Yeah but he only pitched 5 innings so the Yanks had to use the bad part of the bullpen. I would expect at least 7 innings afrom AJ against this lineup. The ump had a really small zone but AJ’s command was really bad.
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True, but I bet the M’s thought Pineda should have gone more than 5 and not walked 5 too…
4 nyy
Good answer but do you think the Yankees are willing to trash the entire season over his 13 million?
Nova simply does not have swing and miss stuff within the strike zone. That’s how a pitcher gets strikeouts. Unless he can develop it, his long-term future in the Yankee rotation is uncertain.
I’m not supporting AJ at all. He’s had a few good outings, but by any means do I think he’s a #2. We have CC and a bunch of scrubs!
W’s are only as good as the offense…..
Pitcher has an ERA of 2 something, but the offense doesn’t score, that doesnt mean the pitcher sucks…
I am so done with this team. No pitching no hitting no fielding all for 200 million, Great job cash.
Are we really having a discussion about the value of pitching wins?
This place has really gone down the crapper.
Nova simply does not have swing and miss stuff within the strike zone. That’s how a pitcher gets strikeouts. Unless he can develop it, his long-term future in the Yankee rotation is uncertain.
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Developing a pitcher like Nova into some kind of semi-reliable 200 inning back end type can net a lot in trades. Having that kind of chip is good. Given the quality of his stuff, he should have more strike outs.
Last time I checked, there were still five innings left in this game.
Is anyone else really tired of hearing the $200 Million argument??
Because I am.
Nova 4 Cain ? Oops ! ( just pull it )
You look at the Sox right now. They are primed to pull away from NY. Yankees face some great pitching and with this crap offense. This could be a crucial stretch for them.
I would take Nova out….
# ac1 May 28th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
W’s are only as good as the offense…..
Pitcher has an ERA of 2 something, but the offense doesn’t score, that doesnt mean the pitcher sucks…
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if you feel comfortable with what they have at 3-4-5 good for you…
# ac1 May 28th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Is anyone else really tired of hearing the $200 Million argument??
Because I am.
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Doesn’t guarantee a damn thing, does it ?
Pineda can count his MLB starts on his fingers.
Just bring in Noesi already!
It’s all about W’S……
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But you want to trade for Felix, who averages like 11 wins and 8 losses a year
Nice! Not even watching the game, but who else would Girardi use?
Nova really struggles with guys on base. As soon as one guy gets on or something goes wrong it’s a snowball effect and the inning gets away from him very, very quickly.
You look at the Sox right now. They are primed to pull away from NY. Yankees face some great pitching and with this crap offense. This could be a crucial stretch for them.
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I dont believe that at all…
Boston has many problems of their own despite their last few games.
They are getting way more from their 4-5 then expected, and it will not hold up…
Beckett will not continue pitching to a sub-2 ERA.
Their pen is not very good either…
The are also aging…
They look better right now but thats just right now.
Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon have shown no signs of slowing down.
Colon, in his worst start of the season last time out, was victimized more by Joe Girardi than the Blue Jays offense.
Garcia isn’t getting by on smoke and mirrors. He has 36 strikeouts in 49 innings, a very solid ratio.
As long as those two stay healthy, I fully expect them to remain effective. Nothing about their performance so far suggests they’ve been “lucky” to have performed as well as they have.
if you feel comfortable with what they have at 3-4-5 good for you…
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When was the last time you were happy with the back end of our rotation?
# Jerkface May 28th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
It’s all about W’S……
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But you want to trade for Felix, who averages like 11 wins and 8 losses a year
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yep….we comparing Colon,Garcia & Nova with King just because of the ERA’s
I guess Nova would be the odd man out if & when Phil makes it back.
disagree. Sox are far superior and they will (kinda already have) prove it w/in the next few weeks. They will easily run away w/ this division. It’s not like we are at game 20. This is the 50th game. This team is what it is—->MEDIOCRE.
yep….we comparing Colon,Garcia & Nova with King just because of the ERA’s
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Just saying, your argument wasn’t very good. Colon actually has really good secondary stats. He doesn’t walk alot of guys (most of his walks are IBBs) and he strikes out a lot of guys. The only reason I can see for not counting on him going forward is the fact that he might get injured, but dismissing him out of hand and talking about wins and throwing out ERA and then advocating for a guy that can’t ‘pitch to the score’ seems backwards.
Maybe you meant that it wasn’t all about the wins.
disagree. Sox are far superior and they will (kinda already have) prove it w/in the next few weeks. They will easily run away w/ this division. It’s not like we are at game 20. This is the 50th game. This team is what it is—->MEDIOCRE.
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Then why are you wasting your time watching them at 11:40 on a Saturday night on Memorial Day Weekend?
You must have better things to do, right?
Every team in the league but the Indians has been mediocre to this point. And you have no way of seeing the future.
actually, i just got home from being out. Sucks that I gotta come back to see this. Gotta vent somewhere, right? and what does saying the Sox are better have anything to do w/ watching the team I root for? a$$.
Yankees are 7-3 in their last 10, calm down.
The Yanks have 1 pitcher that they can count on and they have a giant hole behind him. I know that Colon has been really good but I don’t expect him to keep pitching like this. He hasn’t thrown 200 innings in a long time and I really doubt his arm has that many good innings in it. They have a ton of trade chips and Cashman has to find a #2 starter.
-C May 28th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon have shown no signs of slowing down.
Colon, in his worst start of the season last time out, was victimized more by Joe Girardi than the Blue Jays offense.
Garcia isn’t getting by on smoke and mirrors. He has 36 strikeouts in 49 innings, a very solid ratio.
As long as those two stay healthy, I fully expect them to remain effective. Nothing about their performance so far suggests they’ve been “lucky” to have performed as well as they have.
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Colon won 13 games in the majors the last 4 years & couldn’t get a job in the majors in 2010…….Garcia won 17 games in the last 4 years & 12 of them last year..
“Gotta vent somewhere, right? and what does saying the Sox are better have anything to do w/ watching the team I root for? a$$.”
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Perhaps you should start rooting for them then.
I watched every New Jersey Nets game in their 12-70 season two years ago and I wouldn’t believe on any given night that there wasn’t a single team they couldn’t beat.
You’re a bad fan. As are most of the people that regularly post on this blog, save Jerkface, LGY, Bronx Jeers, and several others. So don’t worry, you aren’t alone.
Of course now that Felix has the lead he will settle in
# Bronx Jeers May 28th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
I guess Nova would be the odd man out if & when Phil makes it back.
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Hughes coming back for sure…
Based on the posts, it sounds like psd would be more the speed of some of the people posting here tonight.
What hurts also is that no starter other than CC can be counted on to go 7 or 8 innings. ( or God forbid a full 9 )
“They have a ton of trade chips and Cashman has to find a #2 starter.”
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I just don’t see that guy being out there for the taking.
Our best hope is the guy who threw off a mound today.
This season, and a lot of the moves Cashman will make this offseason to prepare for future seasons, will likely fall on Phil Hughes’s fragile right shoulder.
GC, you’re no better than i am, as much as your wanna seem like you are. I, too, am a Nets fan and watch every game. There’s a big difference here though. Dont tell me what kind of fan i am. you don’t know me at all. how many games have you been to? Just b/c i say/think that the Sox are a better team, I’m not a “good” fan? it’s not like I want them to be better. Its an opinion, which I believe i’m allowed to have. Thanks.
Just b/c i say/think that the Sox are a better team, I’m not a “good” fan? it’s not like I want them to be better. Its an opinion, which I believe i’m allowed to have. Thanks.
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Did you think the same thing around this time in 09 when the Yankees hadn’t beat the Sox at all and weren’t in first?
How come when we score runs off Lester, Price, Pineda, and Felix we get crap starting pitching?
And when we get great starting pitching, we can’t score off slop pitchers like Dickey and Humber?
Arod is back to looking awful again
Objectively at game 50? The decision to go long term again with Jeter and to trust Posada as full time DH are both looking like mistakes.
Giving away at bats and outs in the infield is costing this team wins now.
With 112 games to go, I don’t expect to see Jeter dealt with. The long term deal pretty much guarantees that he’ll get a do-over for this season (and last season) in 2012. Plus if he hits .260 they’ll say that’s fine and live with the defensive shortcomings in his game.
That said, Posada’s time should be coming to an end here. Is he still the DH on Posada figurine day or is he a bench player or an ex-Yankee?
At this point it’s the not the fan’s job to give these guys a break. It’s their job to show something compelling to keep any shred of belief in them as players on a winning team. Or are we still waiting for the weather to heat them up along with the other excuses this team gets all season long?
Texeira’s in his hot streak and we’re losing games. If that’s going to happen before he turns ice cold again, we don’t stand a chance.
The Yankees need a RF who can hit and isn’t a headcase, a DH who can hit and they need to start giving “Nuney” more starts at SS.
If the Yankees are serious about contending this season they’ve seen enough to know they need to take action.
Maybe Swisher, Jeter and Posada somehow lead this team to the post season this year. After 50 games though, it’s hard to see that happening with the current version of these guys.
Alex, Alex, Alex…be more patient…
Has anyone hit more pop up outs than A-Rod this year ?
Arod is back to looking awful again
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He is hitting .400 in his last 10 games.
Yeah, I do think that reflects negatively on you as a fan.
The Red Sox have given no indication at all that they’re a better team than the Yankees are.
They’re even with the Yankees in the frigging loss column for crying out loud.
But hey, to each his own. I can appreciate the fact that you’re a fellow Nets fan. Not many of those around these parts, seemingly!
Arod fail!
JF, no, i did not. And I was at the 15 inning game that AROD hit the walk off at. Sat through the whole game. Went to game 1 of every postseason round as well. DO i fit in now? i’m new to posting on this board, but have been reading for years. I make one comment about the Sox being a better team, and now my fanhood is in question. Real classy.
The King is so tough because he throws so many pitches and throws them all well, so it is easy to ditch a pitch or even two if it isn’t working on a particular night.
JF, no, i did not.
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Why not? They looked just as futile. So I’m wondering why you were so positive in May of 09 and so negative right now.
# Jerkface May 28th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Maybe you meant that it wasn’t all about the wins.
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I went on record that this 3-4-5 won’t get a total of 30 W’s this year about a month ago…so if that doesn’t happen who gets all the wins..the BP, CC gets 18, AJ gets 15 that’s a lot of W’S for the BP to get to where need to be making the playoffs
Maybe if you thought back to 09 you’d be able to channel some positive energy to a team that is 1 game back in the division and should be near the top or .5 games back of the wildcard…in may…
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I don’t have a huge problem with your Sox comment, even though I don’t agree. The comment that bugs me and probably others is your declaration that the game is over in the fifth inning down by one.
maybe b/c of the additions the Sox have made????
Straw, i can understand that, but based on what we’ve seen so far this year (other than the Toronto game and Mets game), can you blame me? i’m not the only one by the way.
I went on record that this 3-4-5 won’t get a total of 30 W’s this year about a month ago…so if that doesn’t happen who gets all the wins..the BP, CC gets 18, AJ gets 15 that’s a lot of W’S for the BP to get to where need to be making the playoffs
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They are only 21 wins away from 30 with about 60 starts left.
Hard not to see Noesi playing a big role for this team this year.
His stuff is electric and unlike Nova he hides the ball really well.
Atta boy, Hectorito.
# 4 NYY May 28th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
What hurts also is that no starter other than CC can be counted on to go 7 or 8 innings. ( or God forbid a full 9 )
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but their ERA’s are decent
Noesi has been impressive so far and he throws strikes
Honestly, Nova has pretty good stuff but he’s still got some consistency to work out..Noesi might not have as high of a ceiling but he’s probably just as good as nova..I like him. definitely fun to watch
I think many fans became spoiled by the pies and comebacks in 09. For all the angst here, this team is only one or two games worse in the standings than that team was at this point that year.
“Dont tell me what kind of fan i am. you don’t know me at all.”
“Like I SAID: dejavu. They’re not gonna win this game. Team sucks”
“And they continue running bases like a little league team”
“DFA JORGE. DFA JORGE. DFA JORGE.
i’m sorry, love the guy and what he has done for the team, but f tradition. bye bye.”
“and that’s the game folks.”
Shall I go on. We don’t have to tell you what kind of fan you are, It’s obvious.
# Jerkface May 28th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
I went on record that this 3-4-5 won’t get a total of 30 W’s this year about a month ago…so if that doesn’t happen who gets all the wins..the BP, CC gets 18, AJ gets 15 that’s a lot of W’S for the BP to get to where need to be making the playoffs
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They are only 21 wins away from 30 with about 60 starts left.
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Yep
maybe b/c of the additions the Sox have made????
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The 09 sox were coming off an ALCS appearance and had added Jason Bay. Their rotation was Beckett-Lester-Daisuke with Brad Penny, John Smoltz, Buchholz, and Wakefield? And they were winning! And the Yankees didn’t win a game against them until the 2nd half! The yankees got blown out and lost Wang and Joba was ivan nova esque.
So sorry if I am skeptical that you were so positive back then. I wager you are just a fan that wants to get pessimistic because its easier and you can feel relief at wins while hedging your bets against failure. Which is fine, I just think its silly to declare the game over/yankees team sunk when the Yankees continuously make the playoffs every single year despite early troubles/no rotation/no clutch hitting
Cano is back
Hopefully they can get his pitch count up to at least 100 in this inning but he will pitch the 7th inning anyway.
Nova just needs a decent defense. He’s a ground ball pitcher who just can’t succeed if he’s got a giant sieve for an infield.
I think many fans became spoiled by the pies and comebacks in 09.
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Same fans (oh no possible lohud fallacy?!) were probably talking about how unsustainable those walkoffs were and it’d catch up to them if the pitching didn’t keep them in the game…
Keep it off the ground Russ. Lets go
Nova just needs a decent defense. He’s a ground ball pitcher who just can’t succeed if he’s got a giant sieve for an infield.
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He needs more strike outs, you can’t rely on your defense as much as he did this game and expect good things. He got 1 strike out.
Ca-Yes™
# Against All Odds May 28th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Cano is back
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QFT
“He needs more strike outs, you can’t rely on your defense as much as he did this game and expect good things. He got 1 strike out.”
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Exactly what I was saying all game long.
He won’t be long for this rotation unless he can start missing some more bats.
JF, you can believe what you want, but I had a lot of faith in the 2009 team. Was I surprised that they started off 0-8 against the Sox? Yes. But, I still continued to go to games that year (20+ in fact) and I always felt like they were gonna win. Forgive me for not having that feeling about this team this year. I have stated on here multiple times that I feel that this team is an 89 win team this year. I hope i’m wrong.
You can if your infielder can catch ground balls.
If the Yankees decide that Nova isn’t cut for the rotation they need to trade him, not relegate him to the bullpen. A pitcher like Nova is very valuable to a cheap team.
Well, Tar. So far, i’m right about the deja vu thing. And again, I wasnt the only one saying that nova was going to blow the lead. i’m sorry i’m not a cheerleader. i’m allowed to be upset w/ the way this team is playing. And yes, I think Jorge needs to go. I stated that I love what he has done for the team, but he is hurting more than helping. Do you disagree? If so, please explain. thanks.
JF, you can believe what you want, but I had a lot of faith in the 2009 team.
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Its very convenient you had a lot of faith in hindsight in a team that won the world series. You should probably show that same level of support for this team, which will make the playoffs.
It’s only May and many are overreacting, but I understand the frustration and aprehension. This is not a very enjoyable team to watch. Its missing the spark that we had in 2009, Matsui, Damon and Melky and walk offs’. We’re a quiet team and there is no energy and life sometimes. I think a big difference is Girardi. He was hungry in 2009, now he seems complacent and just too accepting of poor play.
For those of you clamoring for a quick-fix trade, dare I remind you of the recent short-term trades this team has made:
Traded:
Juan Miranda (.926 OPS)
Zach McAllister (about to be called up)
Mark Melancon
Phil Coke (sure could use a better lefty in the bullpen)
Austin Jackson
Ian Kennedy (smokin’)
Arody Vizcaino (top prospect)
Michael Dunn (sure could use another better lefty in the bullpen)
Melky Cabrera (expendable commensurate with salary increase)
Tyler Clippard (dominating the past 2 years)
Jeff Karstens
Jose Tabata (on the cusp)
Ross Ohlendorf
Acquired:
Scott Allen
Austin Kearns
Lance Berkman (Fat Elvis version)
Curtis Granderson
Javier Vasquez
Boone Logan
Jonathan Albaladejo
Damaso Marte
Xavier Nady
It’s little wonder that many on this blog impatiently complain that this team is too old, too slow, and has aging journeymen manning the back end of the rotation. Long-term stability takes time and patience, two traits all too often lacking during the Steinbrenner Era.
Regardless of what’s been said about Nova, he just doesn’t have the needed control yet. Not just the walks, but control in the zone.
What the **** is Cano doing?
Cano running with lead shoes there.
WCYF, i agree. I admit, that I should of/could of said it as elegantly as you have, but I did not. I can understand if some are upset w/ me for that. But in the end, I feel the same way as you have. I have had a couple drinks tonite and my temper is a bit high. I apologize for that.
What in the world was that?!?!?!? I hope Girardi wasn’t doing a hit and run with a .165 hitter at the plate.
at least felix is at 100 pitches.
Free outs, free outs, get your free outs heeeeere.
“What in the world was that?!?!?!? I hope Girardi wasn’t doing a hit and run with a .165 hitter at the plate.”
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I fear the worst.
He just hit and run with a .170 hitter against the best pitcher in baseball.
Either that, or Cano’s an idiot.
They could have put Hernandez out of the game with two more long at bats.
Gotta love sending the runner in a hit and run against the best K pitcher in the league with your worst hitter up at the plate.
Good news is he kept them out the double play!
Mets-
Success in the NL doesn’t mean sh-t when translating to the AL east.
Cano has done things like that all year – so him doing another stupid thing is more likely than Joe hitting and running with a .140 hitter.
I’m glad Juan Miranda is doing well, I wanted to see how he would fair with regular playing time. I thought he would have been a good DH and backup 1st baseman.
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It’s dropped.
And no I don’t think they should DFA Jorge. I would swap Montero for Cervelli though.
It seems like at least once every game the Yanks get thrown out on the bases. Either boneheaded plays or slow guys thinking they are faster than they are. Since they don’t hit with risp I think they try to force things too much.
rr212 May 29th, 2011 at 12:04 am
WCYF, i agree. I admit, that I should of/could of said it as elegantly as you have, but I did not. I can understand if some are upset w/ me for that. But in the end, I feel the same way as you have. I have had a couple drinks tonite and my temper is a bit high. I apologize for that.
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You are a class act but no need to apologize. You have the right to your opinion and I certainly understand your feelings – you want the Yankees to win like we all do. Everyone gets angry and frustrated, it goes with being a fan.
Thanks Tar. Like I said, I’m just frustrated. I think we all are a bit. I very much agree w/ your swap though.
Thanks WCYF. hopefully our boys can come back tonite.
Straw,
Superficially dismissing success “doesn’t mean sh-t.”
Of course there are differences between some divisions, but most of the younger players on the prior list were never given adequate opportunities to succeed at the big league level.
What exactly did people expect from Nova this year?
Did you all think he’d be lights out?
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Nothing about him stands out at all. His K-BB ratio is basically 1-1. He throws hard but can’t make guys swing and miss, he allows a lot of contact. His secondary pitches are iffy, as is his control. He also falters going through the lineup for the 3rd time.
He was always a mediocre prospect – he was never a Hughes/Joba or a Killer B. He is in the level with Phelps-Warren- etc. A solid starter, nothing special. He is overrated because he flashes a mid 90s heater but it means nothing when you look at him pitch or look at his stats/peripherals.
This is a pathetic team that finds a way to lose every day.
Noesi should get a chance to start a game.
He has the Swish homerun swing down pat lol
I’d bet that was a hit and run. “Trying to get Jorge going, make something happen.”
Straw, I was just thinking the same thing. If anything, he is on his way there.
Nice throw by Martin
I ranted last night about Girardi, and I’m going to do it again.
There is absolutely NO WAY that a hit and run should have been called in that situation. It is just inexplicably stupid. It is indefensible.
As a manager, your job is to put your players in a position to succeed. Girardi does the opposite, often putting his players in a position to fail.
I honestly can’t comprehend how people can continue to defend his absurd decisions. He has to go.
Hard not to love Martin.
wow, that’s a strike
West Coast Yankee Fan says:
May 29, 2011 at 12:02 am
It’s only May and many are overreacting, but I understand the frustration and aprehension. This is not a very enjoyable team to watch. Its missing the spark that we had in 2009, Matsui, Damon and Melky and walk offs’. We’re a quiet team and there is no energy and life sometimes. I think a big difference is Girardi. He was hungry in 2009, now he seems complacent and just too accepting of poor play.
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Actually, in july ’09, you declared Girardi “clueless,” Cashman “helpless,” Theo and the Red Sox “clearly a superior team, an the Yankees’ season “over.”
That was YOU in 2009.
If you think Ohlendorf, Karstens, and Dunn are elite prospects, you are deluded. Melancon had plenty of chances. Coke was solid, but he and Ajax brought us Granderson. About the only guy the Yanks gave up on in that list was Melky.
“Actually, in july ’09, you declared Girardi “clueless,” Cashman “helpless,” Theo and the Red Sox “clearly a superior team, an the Yankees’ season “over.”
That was YOU in 2009.”
Well, Girardi’s still clueless.
Gold Glove Gardner
whew. atta boy Noesi. Time for some runs.
Looks like a repeat of last night. I don’t know why so many folks just can’t acknowledge that this team simply isn’t very good. The very fact that Swisher and Posada are everyday players speaks volumes. This roadtrip has 2 – 7 written all over it.
Now let’s score a run!!!!
“Looks like a repeat of last night. I don’t know why so many folks just can’t acknowledge that this team simply isn’t very good. ”
Because the evidence is contra?
When did Joe Girardi get his braces removed? Is there any connection between that and his horrendous managing during the last two months of last season and the first two of this season?
Montero would have caught that.
Going to bed in a minute but I like Noesi and boy can Gardner play LF #betterthanCrawford.
Win this game!
Girardi is thrilled about that because now he gets to call for the bunt
ill take it. Now make it count!
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Daniel in Toronto – I agree with you about Girardi. Don’t pay any attention to him, he’s a known troll and liar. He’s here to disrupt the thread. Ignore him.
I disagree that Melancon had plenty of chances. He got very limited shots and never was given consistent work (and the one time he got like a number of appearances in a row he pitched well).
Gardner….ugh…
geez.
Melancon got screwed here.
Shaping up to be like last night’s game.
Gardner has to be kidding me…Not bunting and swinging at the 1st pitch..Where was the bunt??!!
Jf-
Maybe, but the value if Berkman in the playoffs last year more than offset that loss.
Now Felix will most likely pitch the 8th inning because of that DP
gotta wish for the long ball here.
Maybe, but the value if Berkman in the playoffs last year more than offset that loss.
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I liked the Berkman get, but disagreed with the treatment of Melancon prior to it. I think I was ok with the deal. Just saying that Melancon didn’t get a fair shake for the Yankees.
When Hughes comes back. Do you think Joe will let him pitch that extra inning?
Melancon’s control was horrid when he was up. The same thing most of you guys crucify Joba for when he is off.
“Melancon’s control was horrid when he was up”
Irregular work will do that.
Melancon was given no chance to succeed. The way the Yankees use him was bewildering.
*used*
thank god for Granderson……
Granderson is not even close to being the MVP!
There you go!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, baby!
YES!!! TIED!!!! HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice job by Grandy!
YES. CURTIS GRANDERSON IS ALL KINDS OF $!*$!@*$!!$*$!*@!* AWESOME.
Take that you negative nellies.
Melancon got edwar’d. Remember when Edwar came up and struck out the side against the heart of the twins order (which was good at the time) and then spent 19 days in the bullpen not pitching then got put into a bases loaded situation vs the Angels, gave up a grandslam and then torre basically made him cry?
Melancon’s first appearance was against the Red Sox and he pitched well, got some sparse work and got sent down immediately upon struggling. And got 10 innings between Jul 28 and the end of the season (with a 2 ERA and got nothing to show for it)
THANK YOU GRANDY!
Thanks Ichiro…This ballpark is gigantic…
Ichiro would have had it
Grandy off the King!!!!!!!
The same thing most of you guys crucify Joba for when he is off.
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Lohud Fallacy, I am a big proponent of Joba to the rotation.
Now get the go ahead run in… please.
Don’t know why Jeter is looking back when he’s scoring? He always does that
Ichito….Don’t fear the dark!!
Girardi is a YES-man. He doesn’t challenge Cashman’s or ownerships authority and carries out their orders. He is low maintainance and a blue collar guy who doesn’t care about attention and just quietly goes about his business. He works well with ownership.
Even if they get rid of him, it will be for another YES man. The FO wants their manager to be a puppet.
Jeter, 2 hits, walk ( some credit due )
“Melancon was given no chance to succeed. The way the Yankees use him was bewildering”
I would change no to very little. And definitely bewildering.
Nice job Jeter and Grandy. That 3-2 pitch to Jeter was so close.
# yankeefeminista May 29th, 2011 at 12:26 am
Melancon was given no chance to succeed. The way the Yankees use him was bewildering.
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It’s the Yankees when it comes to pitching ehhhhhhhhhh
Pitching regularly, Melancon isn’t walking a lot of guys and is getting groundballs and K’s, his MO.
He got sparse work as a yankee.
now please don’t pop up the first pitch like last time….
A Rod is hitting a homerun here. I have never been so sure of anything in my entire life.
Not even my sexuality.
arod is due
So… if Wedge was playing with Girardi, would he be a Wedgie?
Now that’s a good AB in that situation.
That walk was definitely on purpose. Arod isn’t swinging the bat well at all the last 2 days.
Alex has seemed like he’s on the cusp of hitting one out the last 2 nights. Hopefully he gets all of it here.
Melancon didn’t give himself the best odds to stick because of how he pitched at times, but he also wasn’t put in good situations. And for a top prospect he had a very short leash.
Let Felix throw 150 pitches.
Not like they’ll need him in October.
# igotid88 May 29th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Don’t know why Jeter is looking back when he’s scoring? He always does that
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Admiring the run he help build
at this point, i would be an advocate for switching Alex and Granderson in the lineup.
Granderson is coming through in RBI situations, but Alex is getting on base more…
Ugg.
Chased it
he has left 4 on in his last two ABs
Well I’m not greedy. I will take a tie for now…
Bad job by Alex there.
Gotta get three quick outs and feast on their bullpen.
he is no longer our best RBI man, at least not right now.
He should not be batting 4th.
And Felix is done. Looking for a better performance offensively vs their pen then last night.
Well, then.
POINT TO PONDER: GO TO LOGAN FOR ONE BATTER AND THEN BRING IN AYALA?
I vote yes. Every day of the week.
Ok, I’ll give you Melancon. But it simply isn’t possible to hold onto every prospect. Melky was traded for a guy who was supposed to give them innings, although his first stint should have given them pause. Many were in favor of that deal at the time ( I was not convinced in Javy for the same NL reason).
Giving up our best relief prospect for the ghost of Lance Berkman was awful. And please don’t say he is an NL reliever, he is pitching exactly like he did in the minors and what his scouting report says. Except in HOU, he actually pitches and learned through his mistakes.
D-Rob was treated better than Melancon.
Good thing Gardner worked that walk– but to bad Jeter hit into another DP….oh wait!
Sorry I couldn’t help myself
It seemed like Arod got caught always looking for a different pitch from Felix
Big time pen now! Let’s go!!
Straw,
Perhaps you should study more and speak less.
Ian Kennedy: 6-1 with a 3.01 ERA this year after 194 solid IP last year.
Tyler Clippard: Simply dominating since the beginning of 2009 while we continue to spend on high price FA relievers.
Mike Dunn/Phil Coke/Mark Melancon: Check the numbers pal.
Austin Jackson: Never going to be a star, but clearly useful after a solid rookie season (and cheap at this point).
Jose Tabata: A solid rookie campaign at age 21 last year with a high ceiling.
Zach McAllister: A B prospect who is 7-0 with a 2.29 ERA in AAA at age 23 after rising quickly thru the Yankees system, soon to be in Cleveland’s rotation.
Arodys Vizcaino: Premium pitching prospect.
It’s ironic that you value Melky Cabrera so much, arguably the least valuable player of the group whose only plus skill is his arm (in addition to his arb eligible salary).
Granderson has been terrific this year, but he was mediocre last year and he’s at the point where you pay thru the nose for his production and he cost a plenty in talent to acquire.
Not sure I like this move..
Wife and I had our first baby tonight. Little guy. Can’t lose on the day of his birth.
# Tar May 29th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Good thing Gardner worked that walk– but to bad Jeter hit into another DP….oh wait!
Sorry I couldn’t help myself
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Jeter owns King Felix.
Cash’s problem is that he tinkered too much with the 09 team and overdid his “break up the championship team before they get complacent” mantra.
Granderson was obviously a fine move, but the rest was just unnecessary.
congrats carlo
Cash’s problem is that he tinkered too much with the 09 team and overdid his “break up the championship team before they get complacent” mantra.
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Damon and Matsui voluntarily broke up the team without Cashman’s help. The only other move is getting Vazquez, but the 09 team went the 2nd half with like… 3 starters, so it made sense.
Carlo May 29th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Wife and I had our first baby tonight. Little guy. Can’t lose on the day of his birth.
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W O W !!!! Big announcement! Congrats that is awesome.
Lobster-
I agree. Which is why I always thought they should retain one of Damon or Matsui.
I’ve always felt bad for Tyler Clippard. Hope had stayed so he can get his revenge on the Sux. I think the NL works better for Ian Kennedy.
D-Rob was treated better than Melancon.
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That’s because D-Rob hit the ground running. It’s the Yankee Philosophy. If you do well we love you but if you struggle we’re going to have to see other ppl. Cano and Wang hit the ground running in 05. If they didn’t I don’t think it’s crazy to say that they would have been on short leashes.
David Robertson might be the best reliever in baseball right now…
Straw,
Melky was not the centerpiece of the Vasquez deal. Arodys Vizcaino was.
Melky 5.5/10 production was no longer justified at an arbitration eligible salary, thus he was expendable.
Carlo, congrats! May your son bring you much joy and much luck to the Yankees tonight.
Carlo
Congrats!!
What’s his name Derek?
$400
What was those 87-88 mph breaking balls that Robertson just threw?
DRob getting it done. He is wracking up the SOs for his charity. Motivated!
D-Rob utilizing a changepiece?
K flat out nasty!
Impressive inning by Robertson
Awesome. If he managed last night’s game like this one they would have won.
I thought David Robertson said he would donate $100 for every strikeout. We would see the end of his strikeout dominance.
Wow how good is he? D Rob very impressive right now.
Robertson looks great. But will the binder leave him in for another inning?
very impressive d–rob. very impressive. If that doesn’t give the bats some momentum, then I don’t know what will.
# Carlo May 29th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Wife and I had our first baby tonight. Little guy. Can’t lose on the day of his birth.
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Congrats
“I agree. Which is why I always thought they should retain one of Damon or Matsui.”
They offered Damon more than any other team over two years after the 2009 season. He said no.
Jerkface says:
May 29, 2011 at 12:31 am
Melancon didn’t give himself the best odds to stick because of how he pitched at times, but he also wasn’t put in good situations. And for a top prospect he had a very short leash.
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Always liked him, and lefty Mike Dunn, who went to ATL for Javy.
Okay, I might be more drunk than I think I am (and if that’s the case, please correct me), but did the YES Network (in about the second inning) try to tell us that the Yankees won the ALCS on this date in 2000 against the Mariners?
Congratulations Carlo.
May I suggest Thurman Reginald (fill-in-the-blank last name).
Now let’s see the offense go to work against these nobodies with good numbers in their pen
Congratulations, Carlo. Now go back to where you’re needed.
Wasn’t Clippard out of options?
The point is, most bought re-acquiring Javy would shore up that number four bullpen slot. That was viewed as a grater need at the time than development of a young player and a class A prospect.
Wasn’t Clippard out of options?
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Probably not, unless he got put on the 40 man really early. He only came up to the big leagues for 1 year, wasn’t a rule 5 risk before that
Thanks all. I’m angling for mariano but seem to be behind in the race for a name.
Sure would be nice to score here. Make that decision in the 8th easier of who to pitch.
“The point is, most bought re-acquiring Javy would shore up that number four bullpen slot”
I hated the trade on the day it was made.
He should have PH Nunez.
how mad is jorge?
Rich-
They could have paid him. But they didn’t even negotiate with Matsui. Cash made it clear that he was moving on from both of them. In the long run, maybe the right move, but it is undeniable that it altered the chemistry of a championship club.
Robertson threw 86, 87, 88 breaking balls – What are those? Looks like a slider to me. Is this a new pitch for Robertson?
Clippard had good numbers except for allowing inherited runners to score and blown saves
Tabata’s not so hot this year, is he?
Melocon didn’t do well in NY and was having issues with walks in scranton as well and he’s also 26…not early 20s….same with Coke.
There is no Granderson without moving Jackson and Kennedy.
Were you one of those complaining about the timing of the home runs Coke allowed? Probably.
It’s ironic that you value Melky Cabrera so much, arguably the least valuable player of the group whose only plus skill is his arm (in addition to his arb eligible salary).
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I’d take Cabrera’s 33 RBI, on pace for 100 for the season. There’s uh, definitely value in a guy who can drive in runners. Also has 12 doubles and 7 HRs, the latter would be enhanced playing in Yankee Stadium, naturally.
Of course, you’re entitled to your opinion. So’s Straw, for that matter.
This Posada thing is becoming untenable.
rich, i believe they were change ups. i could be wrong though.
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# Rich in NJ May 29th, 2011 at 12:47 am
“The point is, most bought re-acquiring Javy would shore up that number four bullpen slot”
I hated the trade on the day it was made.
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+1
“But they didn’t even negotiate with Matsui.”
The Angels made an aggressive offer -with the promise of outfield playing time.
I think Matsui really wanted to play in field.
Straw,
Javier V. was 34 years old. That type of “shoring up” will do nothing but guarantee a bloated payroll and aged roster.
Perhaps you think NY should have traded that young prospect Rivera to Detroit in 1995 for that veteran starter David Wells to “shore up” the rotation.
This has been a patter for over 3 decades (at times worse than others). I have been a staunch supporter of Cashman and his increased emphasis on player development since the mid-2000′s, but he still sells out to short-term emergencies far too often.
“but it is undeniable that it altered the chemistry of a championship club.”
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Eh, don’t buy it.
If AJ Burnett doesn’t yank a fastball in game four, we probably win the AL pennant last year and have a damn good chance at repeating.
Cashman is really weird when it comes to trades. He wouldn’t go the extra mile for all stars in Haren and Lee. But he included Vizcaino and Melancon for a nut case pitcher and Berkman who would only be here for 2 months. That makes no sense…
rr212, I don’t think Robertson can throw changeups that hard but his curveball can get up to 82, 83 through.
Ch-ch-changeups, according to gameday.
“They could have paid him. But they didn’t even negotiate with Matsui. Cash made it clear that he was moving on from both of them. In the long run, maybe the right move, but it is undeniable that it altered the chemistry of a championship club.”
Cash offered Damon $14m over two years. No one offered more.
He told Matsui that he couldn’t make a decision until the Damon situation was resolved.
Given that Matsui is merely a DH, I don’t know what else Cash could have reasonably done.
Nunez can hit RH and LH pitching, Jones can’t. You knew Wedge use a RHP v. Jones. Dumb move.
rich, per gameday, they said changeups, but i agree w/ you. Maybe a cutter/slider/slurve?
Rich in NJ May 29th, 2011 at 12:47 am
“The point is, most bought re-acquiring Javy would shore up that number four bullpen slot”
I hated the trade on the day it was made.
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I hated it more
Man, Ichiro really cuts the mustard out there in RF, a lot like Rickey Henderson.
They could have paid him. But they didn’t even negotiate with Matsui. Cash made it clear that he was moving on from both of them. In the long run, maybe the right move, but it is undeniable that it altered the chemistry of a championship club.
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Matsui jumped on the first offer he got at the very start of free agency, his agent read the DH field.
Actually, I probably would have left Posada in. He’s due for a hit v. LHP.
GB,
Tabata is only 22 years old and beginning to establish himself.
As for Clippard, Melancon, Kennedy, et al, none were given adequate opportunities to stick.
Like I said, Granderson is having a fine year, but the cost in dollars and prospects was high and he’s is now on the wrong side of 30.
Now Joe is managing. I like it. Lets win this game baby.
A second IP for Robertson or one more batter?
Really surprised that Robertson is back for his 2nd inning.
This game is being managed, pitching wise, like it should be. Nice.
I don’t like asking Robertson to pitch another inning. Is Girardi trying to blow out his arm?? I wonder if Joba couldn’t get lose.
loose
# Carlo May 29th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Wife and I had our first baby tonight. Little guy. Can’t lose on the day of his birth.
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Best and happiest post of the night !!! Fantastic WIN !!!
Just don’t name after Horace C. or call him “Goose” !!!
# UnKnown May 29th, 2011 at 12:57 am
Now Joe is managing. I like it. Lets win this game baby.
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Yeah, for Carlo’s BABY !!!
Rich-
Whichever of those guys they retained was going to DH with Granderson here. And given your premise, maybe they should have paid Damon what he wanted or tried to negotiate with them both concurrently. But that is water under the bridge now. I just thought those guys were of kicked in the nuts after being the most responsible after Alex for the WS trophy coming back to the Bronx. But like I said, maybe Cash has a long term plan.
I wonder if Joba couldn’t get loose or Mo isn’t available
All will be forgiven if Betances, Banuelos, Montero, Sanchez & Heathcott continue an undisturbed, inecxorable progress toward the Bronx.
Binder – does not compute. Leaving in reliever for more than one inning. Binder – does not compute.
Posada is a switch hitter and can hit both kinds of pitching, despite the stats this year. Jones is useless against RHP.
Dumb move.
And Robertson is going to be toast by the ASB if he has to pitch this much. Get rid of the Ayalas and Pendelton’s of the world and allow guys with some talent like Noesi to get a shot in short relief. Can’t keep using the same 2 guys every night in close games.
Darn looks like D-rob is in line for the loss. jk
Oh, best wishes, Carlo.
When did Kennedy turn into Pujols?
Straw
Damon can play the OF now and then, medically, Matsui can’t, at least according to the Yankees’ doctors, so he had limited value.
Give Damon what he wanted? That’s not smart businesss.
If you’re not going to let DRob get out of that, bring Joba in at the start of the inning. Another questionable move by the trigger happy manager.
Niblick May 29th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Binder – does not compute. Leaving in reliever for more than one inning. Binder – does not compute.
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lol
Binder ok now – take out reliever as soon as one guy gets on.
Rich-agree that it wasn’t smart in the long run. I said that twice.
A streaker!!! Bring back the ’70′s!!!
Fans in NY are far more well-behaved.
OK, Straw. My bad.
AZ88 May 29th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Posada is a switch hitter and can hit both kinds of pitching, despite the stats this year. Jones is useless against RHP.
Dumb move.
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Posada gave the ball a ride RH a couple games or so ago. I also think it’s just short sighted to strictly platoon Jorge Posada. THe guy’s hit lefties his whole career.
I don’t buy the magic damon/matsui essence, they were on the team for a long time before 09. They were good players near the end of their career. Matsui is one of my favorite yankees ever and I hated that he went to the angels. Can’t give them the world and eventually you have to move on.
Wow this really sucks for Joba. Delay is not good.
A DP wouldn’t suck.
Kennedy became Pujols when Pujols started hitting like Kennedy.
Niblick May 29th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Binder – does not compute. Leaving in reliever for more than one inning. Binder – does not compute.
I laughed so hard at this. This move, even if it works, is as stupid as his move last night to bring in Ayala. I have absolutely no idea why he would bring in Chamberlain with one out in this inning and a runner on base. Why wouldn’t he a) let Robertson finish the inning or b) let Joba start the inning.
Point to ponder: Is Joe Girardi intoxicated?
Nice play by Jeter there. Nearly turned by Cano.
“Point to ponder: Is Joe Girardi intoxicated?”
I think he’s managing tight. Nothing more.
Olivo isn’t as slow as most catchers
Nilsson May 29th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Man, Ichiro really cuts the mustard out there in RF, a lot like Rickey Henderson.
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Much better defender than Henderson.
Is it me, or does Joba struggle more with inherited runners?
Is it me, or does Joba struggle more with inherited runners?
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Joba rarely lets inherited runners score.
Come on Joba this guy is hitting under .200
Come on Jobber.
Why is he throwing 2-2 sliders in the dirt to Michael Saunders?
He’s better than that.
Joba’s optimal as an every fifth day proposition
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Quality strikes!
Rich in NJ,
Managing tight? I actually don’t understand that. As a manager, your job is to just make good decisions and put your players in a position to succeed. If they fail, so be it.
How can you possibly explain his managing this inning?
Ok, I guess it’s me then. But he needs to get out of this.
Daniel
I could be wrong, but I think the pressure is getting to him.
You can’t walk this guy to face Ichiro
Bring the heat….
I’m afraid to go to the bathroom.
I wouldn’t leave Jobbah alone right now, prufrock.
“I’m afraid to go to the bathroom.”
I’m only afraid of public restrooms.
Stellar play!
Nice play by Arod
Arod!
Alex!!
Nice.
Wow!. That makes me think it might be NY’s night.
whew…again
A-Rod with the great stop
‘I’m afraid to go to the bathroom.”
boogeyman?
Nice Alex!!!!
Helluva play. Coast is clear now, Prufrock.
A-Rod saved Joba’s fat butt there.
Rich in NJ,
Perhaps. (Insert an “EXPLETIVE YES!!!!” for that play). But seriously, why is Joe intent on putting his relievers in a position to fail? If he wanted to let Ayala and Chamberlain pitch the last two nights, LET THEM START THE INNING. Why WAIT for a guy to get on base to bring them in? It’s absolutely insane managing.
Bad job by Joba that inning.
He shouldn’t be throwing 3-2 sliders to Brendan Ryan with Ichiro on deck.
He got lucky there, but he’s had a fair amount of bad luck in the past two seasons. So I’ll take it!
Mariners pen has thrown 5 shutouts innings against us so far…time to score some runs
We need to score. Now.
Rich in NJ,
I’m pleased with the results.
I think leaving DRob in there was the right move the way he looked in the seventh. But for god sakes, let him get out of trouble! He brings him in with worse situations than that.
If the Yanks don’t score does Ayala pitch the 9th? Or Joba?
Man they must have spiked the punch tonight at Safeco. These fans are nuts
Come on, Swish!
yankeefeminista May 29th, 2011 at 1:13 am
Helluva play. Coast is clear now, Prufrock.
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Been there, done that
Still sucking.
Grrrrrrrrr
Swish still looks lost at the plate.
The platooning of Swish should happen very, very soon.
another k by swish.
Booney time!
Man, for Swisher to look that bad against Jamey Wright is pretty sad.
These nobodies in the Mariners pen have very good numbers. Their closer League has the worst numbers and he sat down the Yanks 1,2,3 yesterday.
# TheStraw May 29th, 2011 at 1:17 am
Swish still looks lost at the plate.
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Has no trouble finding his seat on the bench though.
Tar May 29th, 2011 at 1:13 am
‘I’m afraid to go to the bathroom.”
boogeyman?
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Just playin’ it safe
Get on base, Brett.
Swisher, meet Mr. Mendoza.
A HR would be sweet.
I’m not thrilled that Ichiro is leading off here.
I think the problem is that Swish is not a good breaking ball hitter. He either relies on his eye to let those breaking balls go and draw a walk, or he swings and misses. When he’s in a slump, he becomes overanxious and tries to swing at pitches that he would normally pass at.
C’mon, just let our big bats have a chance in the 10th.
good nite all
The Yanks really struggle against bullpens in the late innings. It seems like anyone and everyone shuts them down. They are 1-18 this year after the 7th inning and the only W was against the Mets the other night. Why can’t they ever get anything going late in games???!
I can live with 4 runs in seven innings against Felix Hernandez.
My patience for weak at bats against Aaron Laffey and Jamey Wright, who despite their good ERAs are bad pitchers who have been very mediocre this season, is very short.
Ichiro’s 3/11 vs. Joba, 1BB, 2K, .333 OBP.
When’s the last time we won an extra inning game on the road, not including Camden Yards?
I remember Grandy hitting a 10th inning grandslam off Papelbon in the opening series last year, but nothing else comes to mind. Anyone?
Stage fright at the trough.
Don’t like that he’s 0fer tonight, either.
Atta boy, dos mas.
I don’t think the Yankees are good in the 7-9 innings even when they’re leading. That’s why Joba and Robertson have to pitch in just about every game and Mo used to get save opps every other day
1 more Joba. Figgins never worries you.
Jorge Posada and Nick Swisher in the same lineup cannot continue.
Nice.
Runs…then Mo.
Must. Score. Here.
Good Joba.
How’dya like his fat butt now, West Coast?
Filthy!
K, like that he is using the curveball more.
If the Yanks don’t score now it’s most likely Ayala in the bottom of the inning
Grandy
Tex
Arod.
yankeefeminista May 29th, 2011 at 1:30 am
K, like that he is using the curveball more.
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Keepin the stahtin’ arsenal updated in case he gets dealt
League has been awful recently
Oh great Logan…I guess Girardi is giving up if the Yanks don’t score.
If Erica were here she would offer to run around the blog naked, if the Yankees score.
Any volunteers?
Yankees have yet to get a hit in a 3-0 count this year.
Not looking good….
Green Light!?!? What the hell?
3-0
And a groundout.
You have to be kidding me.
:rolleyes:
Due. Alex.
Swinging 3-0???
But remember: Swish is not worried at all. Why should we be worried?
Too bad this isn’t the NHL.
Like I said.
I trust Pendleton and most the SWB pitching staff more than Logan, so they better score.
The boos are sort of ridiculous at this point. It’s only been 11 years, folks.
I’d rather see Ayala than Logan. We need a run first…
love swinging on 3-0
the pitcher is going to throw a strike, knowing how patient the Yankees lineup is. Take advantage of the cookie. Why just wait for the count to go to 3-1?
League clearly has no idea where the ball is going.
Really dumb idea by Tex to chop at a ball on 3-0.
Do it, Russ.
Good thing Girardi put the green light on 3-0
if only that went all the way to the wall…and if only Ichiro were not playing there
Great. Look who is up now….
I’d rather see Swish pitch than Logan.
Atta boy, Cano!
Too bad Tex swung 3-0. Who knows what could of happened…
Tar May 29th, 2011 at 1:34 am
If Erica were here she would offer to run around the blog naked, if the Yankees score.
Any volunteers?
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Sorry, I’ve already postponed a bathroom visit for the greater cause.
Sorry, thought it was swish.
3 and 0 1 out in the tenth and tex grounds out to 2nd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how friggin stupid are these clowns?????
disgraceful…….
you need to put the take sign on these morons…..
inexcusable…………..
C’mon Coltrane.
Don’t steal.
Martin is taking some Swish like swings tonight
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That inning is on Tex.
Crap.
1 for 8 wit hRISP and baffooon logan coming in.
this is ground hog day every day for this joke of a team.
3 and 0 and tex grounded out weakly to 2nd. he is a fuc— moron……….
Maybe Joe should go to Swish here. Worked for Charlie a few days ago going to Valdez
SHI&% fhg*U G&*^^&!!!
These guys know that they stink with risp so they are always trying to do too much. Swinging 3-0 in the 10th inning is really unacceptable. I don’t care how hot Tex has been.
Booney = L, and that doesn’t stand for Logan.
I love the way Singleton tries to manufacture some excitement about an obvious fly out. It’s beneath him. Worthy of Michael Kay & John Sterling, perhaps.
Does no run = Boone?
Well its brace yourself time now with every pitch. Darnit.
Gulp, Cust. I was hoping it was a righty. It’s come to this w/Logan.
Is binder only gonna use Boone for one batter here?
Exactly what a Yankees fan wants to see Logan on the mound and Ayala warming up. I would rather see Pendelton pitching.
And you wonder what Teix was doing rolling over on a 3 and 0 pitch.
These “stars” boggle the mind. Brain dead or what.
23 mil a year for not thinking to zone a pitch.
Arguably cost them a game. League wanted no part of him.
Well that was cool he actually got a LH out
Yep, and now of course b/c he got the lefty out, Boone has reverted to sucking against righties.
That’s what happens when Logan falls behind in the count.
Watch all star Kennedy get a hit here
Tough for Joe to go to Ayala here not knowing how long this thing might go. Has as much confidence as many of us in the offense to actually score soon.
Nice job, jetes.
Great job, Jete!
CC needs to pitch his second CG of the week tomorrow now.
Ba-boone! & nice play to turn it.
please score
Logan is fine.
Part of the reason he’s stunk this year is because of the irregular work Girardi has given him.
I’d much rather see him come in for full innings than Ayala.
He’s not really a LOOGY at this point and he given how thin this bullpen is we can’t afford to limit him to such a defined role.
Girardi needs to stop using Logan for lefties; instead, just let him pitch an innning.
We don’t have a LOOGY and the idea that you have an inferior pitcher in just to say you have one is nuts.
And then there is Martin. An absolutely great catcher. As a hitter a bad case of Swisher disease. A man on third, ninth inning – swing really hard at a 97 mph fastball – twice
Yikes.
Nova has the lowest swinging strike rate in MLB.
May be time to give Noesi a shot and for Nova to see if he can get back the fastball velo and command he had last year down in AAA.
2nd night in a row seeing all these relievers. Come on guys.
Boone has sucked because he can’t locate his slider.
Has Jorge left the dugout yet?
Great now we have Jones against righties. They should jsut let Nunez DH everyday…
Swish!
I don’t believe what I just saw. Great swing by Swish. Thaaaank you.
Being in Seattle and a day game in a few hours, there is no roster moves they could pull off for tomorrow. Come on BG!
Lookin good, Andruw. Not.
Don’t steal here yet. Lets see what Brett does with his AB. Don’t want to get hosed at 2nd and take the inning away.
Send him.
It really is amazing how the Yanks lineup can get shut down for as many innings as they do. They do ok against the all star pitchers but the worse the pitcher on the mound is the worse they do. If one guy is hot then the next guy is ice cold. The hitting this year with risp is putrid.
Great — we’re going to have to read all those “still got it” “things are turning around” comments from Swisher now…
Chad — PLEASE don’t pass along his clueless comments.
Boone has sucked because he can’t locate his slider.
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And because his slider sucks.
I read Seattle’s bullpen’s good.
Every time I get excited that the top of the order is coming up my enthusiasm is tempered by the fact that Jeter is at the top of the order.
Hate to say it, but right now its true!
# J. Alfred Prufrock May 29th, 2011 at 1:52 am
Swish!
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I was in the bathroom and missed it. You think I should spend all Swisher’s at bats there for the greater cause?
Gardner with an incredibly unlucky day
I feel like every time the past 2 nights Gardner has hit the ball hard it’s right at a fielder.
Can Jeter actually get a big hit?
The lead off hitter fails once again
He’s an automatic out in these spots.
Gotta squeeze three more outs out of non-Mariano relievers.
Regardless of the outcome, they don’t deserve to win this game.
They are making the Mariners look way too good.
I’d use Pendleton here.
Good swing, Derek.
yankeefeminista May 29th, 2011 at 1:54 am
# J. Alfred Prufrock May 29th, 2011 at 1:52 am
Swish!
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I was in the bathroom and missed it. You think I should spend all Swisher’s at bats there for the greater cause?
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Well, they’ve tried everything else.
I would pitch Mo here.
Middle of the order next inning. Just hope they put up a crooked number and Ayala or whatever can close it out.
Swisher with a great swing – Baby steps. Hope springs everlasting.
It’s like a holiday when someone gets a hit with risp. Its seems like they leave 200 guys on base in every game.
LGY pretty smart thinking, but never would happen sadly
Diving head first is stupid
idiot. would have been safe also if he had run through
How does Jeter not make that play on a catcher?
They have pitched Olivo really bad today. Every at bat and hit has been the same thing. Fastball on the outside corner…
Ayala slowed that play down for Jeter.
Loser quotient rising.
Goodnight, all.
walk off?
damn
boone logan redeemed nothing .get guys out for 3 months and then talk to me.
golly shucks the captn. did not drive in the run what a suprise.
he is so good, they need to give him a raise….
I wonder why Ayala is pitching before Pendleton?!
i get the feeling Gardner would have been out on that Olivo play.
K
Ayala has had some bad luck on ground balls–he is due for a DP.
Russel is going to get a chance to throw this cat out here soon.
Here comes all star Ryan
Why do pitchers struggle so much throwing to a base. Its ugly more times than not.
Wow, that was an awful throw
Damm 0-5 —has he ever had an 0-6?
Ichiro is due, unfortunately.
What a great play by Cano. Totally athletic.
Funny I was just thinking of that homer by Ichiro. What year was that again 09?
The Mariners hitters are so awful that they can’t hit the ball hard enough to get a DP.
Phew.
No infield hit for you Ichiro
Gerry Davis is cash on bang bang plays at first.
I’m so sick of these little infield bleeders.
Can these jerkoffs actually hit the ball hard so every play is not so close.
How’s everyone holding up?
Well this is the inning with our big guys up
Getting tired.
Tar,
This was the 8th time Ichiro has been 0-6
Chad, there’s more whine here than at an Italian wedding.
If we don’t score this inning – do you put Pendleton in?
Hey, Chad. Holding up fine because I’m anticipating a win.
Mo is warming up…
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# GreenBeret7 May 29th, 2011 at 2:13 am
Chad, there’s more whine here than at an Italian wedding.
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However, at least the wine at an Italian wedding is good wine.
For how good Granderson works the count, he really should walk more than he does. He is prettttttttty good
Curse you safeco
GB7, I needed a laugh right now, and you brought one! For a while there, the Yankees beat writers were trying to convince one another to be the next to run on the field. We’ve reached that point up here.
Too bad it’s 700 feet to CF
yankeefeminista May 29th, 2011 at 2:14 am
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# GreenBeret7 May 29th, 2011 at 2:13 am
Chad, there’s more whine here than at an Italian wedding.
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Yeah, the whine on here has turned to vinegar
Weak.
Mo coming in.
Well that sucked
And the middle of the order goes down easy. Eventually the Mariners will win this game it just hasn’t happened yet….
Just bring him in Joe. He has been up and down so much already that it would be a waste if we got walked off and he didn’t even get in the game. Basically like he pitched tonight anyways. Bring in MO
“This was the 8th time Ichiro has been 0-6″
I would have never had guessed that.
Chad Jennings May 29th, 2011 at 2:15 am
GB7, I needed a laugh right now, and you brought one! For a while there, the Yankees beat writers were trying to convince one another to be the next to run on the field. We’ve reached that point up here.
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LMAO. You guys must be pretty desperate to try talking Matthews into streaking.
Is that 9 scoreless now for the M’s relief corps. That ridiculous.
hope Sabathia can go 9 today
if HitFX is ever released, I can’t imagine the mariners scoring very highly on velocity off bat.
Makes absolutely no sense to use Mo here. None. Zero.
I’m not saying it’s late, but it’s almost 2:30 p.m. Tuesday in Hong Kong.
Man alive….the infield fielding percentages are getting a big boost tonight.
Great play Brett.
Looked like Gardner was turning into a mole with that hole he dug.
GB
Erica used to offer to run around the blog naked if the Yankees would win.
We need a stand in, what do you think?
You and Killer streaking around the blog!
Nice try Brett.
The Mariners have built a great infield single and bloop hit offense
Better to end up face planting in LF than on 1B… Where’s Rick Dempsey to teach sliding classes.
Makes absolutely no sense to use Mo here. None. Zero.
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Why?
Letting him waste away in the bullpen hoping for a save situation is dumb.
fml
darn
Great Crusty with a hit…
Curse of Cone.
Oh well, I guess Mo wants to let us get to bed.
Mo suffering from Soriano disease.
How come other teams can place hits and we can’t?
LGY,
Completely agree.
Walk guterrez and set up DP?
Walk him here
It’s funny that Mo will be the one to blow this out of everyone in the bullpen. I love Girardi telling Mo the great what to do…Kennedy will probably get a bloop hit also…
mo walking someone just doesn’t look right
How come other teams can place hits and we can’t?
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Seattle is hitting .232 as a team, so they are probably wondering the same thing
Seems like Mo always gets pegged with a loss on west coast trips.
Ichiro walk-off HR
Scutaro walk-off HR in Oakland
The infielders have no range when you bring them in
This looks like Game 7 of the 2001 World Series.
Well that was fun
Tar May 29th, 2011 at 2:24 am
GB
Erica used to offer to run around the blog naked if the Yankees would win.
We need a stand in, what do you think?
You and Killer streaking around the blog!
Nice try Brett.
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“Killer” just dragged in from his date. Not sure that he’s up for showing off tonight.
The infielders have no range when you bring them in
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If they need to range to make a play the game is over
Of course.
this team is tough to watch
Thanks, Gardner for singlehandedly blowing that one.
Mo – not so Mo.
should have kept in Ayala
What a repulsive sight.
The all star Yanks get shut down for 5 innings and these AAA guys place their singles and bloops in the perfect spots.
Another bloop-damm. Oh well
Goodnight all
TheStraw May 29th, 2011 at 2:29 am
Thanks, Gardner for singlehandedly blowing that one.
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Utter stupidity.
Captain Clutch May 29th, 2011 at 2:27 am
It’s funny that Mo will be the one to blow this out of everyone in the bullpen. I love Girardi telling Mo the great what to do…Kennedy will probably get a bloop hit also…
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1. It’s funny that Mo will be the one to blow this out of everyone in the bullpen.
CORRECT
2. I love Girardi telling Mo the great what to do
CORRECT
3. Kennedy will probably get a bloop hit also…
CORRECT
why can the no-names score off mo when grandy tex and arod not even sniff a hit off a third string reliever
Thanks, Gardner for singlehandedly blowing that one.
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Give your head a shake. I think you’ve turned delusional.
Thanks, Gardner for singlehandedly blowing that one.
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He singlehandedly blew the game by not making a play when basically no other LF would have come close to that ball???
Yet another L because the offense can’t hit with risp. It’s like watching the same movie over and over.
You are beyond moronic, TheStraw. If you think any LF in the game makes the play that Gardner almost made, you know nothing about baseball. And if you think that he “single-handedly” cost us the game, when it’s pretty clear that Mariano had absolutely nothing tonight, then that just furthers my point.
Nicely done Yanks. This team really is pathetic.
“Thanks, Gardner for singlehandedly blowing that one.’”
Huh?
Really? He had his glove on the ball. The play should have been made and he was playing too deep to begin with. Mo gave up one hard hit ball and one bloop. Of course I’m discounting the rest of the game, but Gardner needs to catch that.
another great game. clutch hitting. good baserunning. smart hitters taking pitches. what more can yo uask for??
too bad derek the great did not get 1 last try to win it , I know he would have done it this time.
thank g-d tex swung 3 and 0 in the 10 with 1 out. as is this team is not making the playoffs. the pen is at least 1 pitcher short. the starters are not that good, and the offense is the most overrated part of the team.
afraud got jammed by a 84 mph fastball fro mpauley. he is lost. he is lost with basically the whole offense. what a train wreck. but hey let’s cellebrate baffoon logan got out 2 lefties, hallelujah have a parade……………..
Most outfielders don’t even get close enough to make the play that Gardner attempted
Mo just gives up a lot of bloopers and bleeders…nothing you can do about it really
This offense shuts down after about the 5th inning. It’s a serious issue, and you can’t just point to one or two comebacks because every team in baseball gets lucky once in a while.
it’s becoming redundant when the broadcasters say Yanks are 0 for or 1 for in RISP
After this loss, I am more convinced than ever that something has to change. You can’t really fire the entire team, so I nominate Girardi. He’s a terrible in-game manager. He makes at least a couple of “What is he doing?” decisions per game (for instance, hitting and running with Posada and Cano tonight).
This team is just out of it. In every possible way. They look inept.
Mo’s been off for a while. He needs regular work, but too much work and you’re afraid of over-taxing him. It’s a Catch-22.
But it’s not really on Mo anyway — the team can hit with RISP. And that’s been going on forever…
brain fart — you know I mean CAN’T hit
blame girarid all yo uwant. tex swinging 3 and 0 in a tie game with 1 out in the 9th or 10th and gorunded to 2nd is all you need to know about this team………
ATROCIOUS….
4 runs 3 via the homer… same old same old………………..BROKEN RECORD.
I don’t think Gardner singlehandedly blew the game but it definitely looked like a ball he could have caught and if he’s not playing superb defense he’s not providing much of anything.
gardner is the best fielding left fielder in baseball hands down. he missed that ball by inches.
when you put the bat on the ball good stuff happens………..
Is it just me, or was that loss the result of atrocious pitch calling? Mo looked quite good tonight, actually–excellent velocity, trademark broken bat from Figgins. The Smoak single and the Cust double were both on outside fastballs, and both balls were hit opposite-field. Mo let himself get beaten with something other than his best pitch, and I can’t understand why.
gardner is playing superb defense game in and game out morons. nah jeter hitting about 110 wit hRISP has nothing to do with there ineptness. or swisher totally sucking or posada DItto..
1 for 9 with RISP….. shocker………………..
Watch the play again. Also, Pendleton should have been used there. You have to manage for tomorrow in these types of games sometimes. You don’t agree with my assessment, that’s fine. But don’t presume you know anything about me personally.
can’t be upset at mo or gardner, 99 times out of 100 you can rely on either one to make their pitch or play
its tough for a long game to end that way but ti happens
I agree Yanks28, it looks like Martin’s calling pitches to get a strikeout against every batter. It’s racked up the pitch counts on Burnett and Nova the past 2 nights.
I know Gardner plays superb defense that’s why we need him to make that catch, his ineptness at the rest of the game becomes magnified if his outfield range isn’t advantageous enough.
Let me correct that, Gardner’s arm is average at best, so he doesn’t play superb defense, he has superb range.