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Teixeira’s understatement: “I feel pretty good up there”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on May 31, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

On Friday, when the Yankees took a quick 1-0 lead against Michael Pineda, it was on a first-inning home run by Mark Teixeira.

On Saturday, when they pulled ahead 3-1 in the third inning against Felix Hernandez, it was on a two-run homer by Mark Teixeira.

On Monday, when the Yankees jumped on top 2-0 in the first inning against Trevor Cahill, it was on a home run by Mark Teixeira.

The Yankees first baseman has hit seven home runs in his past 11 games. He’s hit them off relatively a no-name relievers (Chris Jakubauskas) and against a Cy Young winner (Hernandez). He’s hit them off a knuckleballer (R.A. Dickey) and one of the hardest-throwing starters in the game (Pineda). He’s hit them off back-of-the-rotation lefties (Chris Cabuano and Jo-Jo Reyes) and an all-star right-hander.

On the road and at home. Down in the count and ahead. In tied games and blowouts. Teixeira has 16 homers this season, a mark he didn’t reach last year until July 9.

“I’ve said it before, home runs come in bunches,” Teixeira said. “And right now I’m just kind of in one of those streaks where I’m hitting the ball out of the park a lot. Hopefully, it keeps up. I feel pretty good up there.”

Teixeira’s April and May slash lines are very similar (.256/.392/.549 in April, .259/.349/.545 in May). Three differences standout: His batting average on balls in play this month is a decidedly unlucky .218 (it was .273 last month). He’s already hit 10 home runs this month (four more than in April). And despite playing in five more games this month, he’s actually cut his strikeouts (from 22 last month to 16 this month).

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188 Responses to “Teixeira’s understatement: “I feel pretty good up there””

  1. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Blake- Looking at the list of HOF catchers, Posada could very well be up there. I was surprised to see tat Fisk played until he was 44, although he was really “finished” at 42! Bench till age 36, Carter till age 38.

    Posada has had a terrific career. If there’s nothing wrong with him physically-eyesight, other things-than I wish he would exit gracefully like Ken Griffey Jr.
    He’s also concerned about his son’s upcoming surgery for his craniostenosis-like #20?

  2. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Tell me, Carnac, who knew it was going to be temporary two years ago? Jeez, you’re so freakin’ obtuse. Duh, that’s the point.

    ****************

    You really are childlike to debate. David Ortiz was 34 years old in 2009 and nowhere near done. He finished with 28 home runs and 99 RBI’s. Posada is 40 this August.

  3. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Chad-

    I don’t think Teixera’s batting average will ever be good from the left side, until he can adjust to the shift. It doesn;t seem like all the extra batting practice, trying to hit the other way has paid off.

    I remember A-Gone bunting for a hit, down 3rd base, against the shift the Yankees had on him!

  4. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Looks like Tex is trying to blow a bubble in that picture. :)

  5. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    If Ortiz is actually the age it says on his baseball card I’ll eat my hat. What does it matter if you are “34″ if you look act and are built like you are 40?

  6. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    You really are childlike to debate. David Ortiz was 34 years old in 2009 and nowhere near done. He finished with 28 home runs and 99 RBI’s. Posada is 40 this August.
    _

    Then what does it say about you that you lose every debate to a child?

    So tell me, genius, why were people writing Ortiz’s baseball obit in 2009?

    Steroids? It’s not like no other hitter precipitously declined in their mid-30s after they ended their steroid use.

    You’re hiding behind hindsight, which is typical.

  7. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    You really are childlike to debate. David Ortiz was 34 years old in 2009 and nowhere near done.

    This is only said with hindsight. Given your criteria for judging anything, 2009 ortiz was done. He was mired in a 2 month long slump where he hit .100, had scouts questioning his batspeed and ability to handle pitches he used to crush, and ended with one of the worst years of his career. Hit .230 for july and august as well.

  8. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    If Ortiz is actually the age is says on his baseball card I’ll eat my hat.
    ————————————–

    ID-

    I think Donald Trump owns a company that tracks down original birth certificates! LOL

  9. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:07 pm
    If Ortiz is actually the age it says on his baseball card I?ll eat my hat.

    *******************

    :lol:

  10. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    It’s always fun seeing the soundly defeated scurrying for the nearest, most convenient rationalizations and excuses after their weak positions are eviscerated.

  11. Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    # Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    “I wish he would exit gracefully like Ken Griffey Jr.”

    The day Posada is found sleeping in our clubhouse during a game is the day this blog explodes.

  12. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    WCYF – You don’t find it odd that you come to the same conclusion in every debate you get into? That everyone else is nuts and you’re the only sane person in the world?

    Define insanity.

  13. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Don’t talk about yourself like that

  14. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Erin,
    Watched Bridesmaids yesterday. The funniest movie of the year. Id go as far as saying it was better than the hangover. That food poisoning scene had me laughing so hard I almost crapped my pants(no pun intended). Must see fellas!!

  15. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    “It’s always fun seeing the soundly defeated scurrying for the nearest, most convenient rationalizations and excuses after their weak positions are eviscerated.”

    /alternate universe

  16. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Has any starting player ever hit under .200 on a contending team to begin the month of June?
    I hope the “waiting for Jeters 3000 and retire” rumors are true. Like someone else mentioned earlier. If he cant hit, hes useless.

  17. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    SoS-

    Scene on the airplane was terrific. Hangover 2 was a raunchy dissapointment compared to the 1st movie.

  18. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    SoS-glad to hear it. I knew you’d like it! :)

    Yeah, the popcorn I had left remained untouched after that food poisoning scene. LOL

  19. Tom in N.J. May 31st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    There’s a trend that goes on here every day….

    1. Argue a point
    2. Be given empirical evidence that your position is wrong
    3. Declare yourself the winner
    4. Call everyone else names

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    You mean the same handful of you ID?

    To compare a 34 year old Ortiz with a 39 going on 40 Posada is just plain dumb. Ortiz was hitting .185 at the end of May 2009. He was hitting 40 points higher a month later.

    Feel free to predict Posada will do the same.

  21. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Y.S.,
    Have not scene Hangover 2. I read critics saying that its basically biting alot off of the first(nothing original), with alot of franks and beans scenes. Not interested in seeing shlongs on the screen.

  22. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    A david ortiz that had previously suffered a major hand injury, is an old body slugger, and was linked to steroids oh i mean milk shakes. But he was a definite bounce back candidate!

    Hit .230 for 2 months after ‘bouncing back’ and then got torched in the playoffs.

  23. Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    I’m not even sure what the argument is based on..

    I don’t think anyone’s assuming Posada will just turn it on at this point. Comparing him to another player at a different point in his career (a non-position player, at that) seems kind of irrelevant?

  24. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Erin,
    We missed the first 20 minutes of the movie. Started watching it when she had gotten pulled over. Did I miss much. That fat chick was a freakin riot!! Hope to see more of her in movies to come.

  25. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    “To compare a 34 year old Ortiz with a 39 going on 40 Posada is just plain dumb.”

    So who are you predicting dramatic turnarounds for this season, Carnac?

    “Feel free to predict Posada will do the same.”

    No one did. I merely pointed out that unforeseeable reversals (except to you, of course) sometimes happen.

  26. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Shame-

    I didn’t remember this about Griffey. Was this true-teamates trying to cover up?

    The stalemate continues, for now at least, loaded with questions over the validity of Larue’s article. Was Griffey actually asleep last week? If so, what players snitched on him to Larry Larue? Will this incident, if proven true, cause dissension in the Mariners’ clubhouse? Could this be the end for Ken Griffey Jr.?

  27. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Who wins in the Heat vs. Mavs?

    I will say Mavs in 6. I think they have less stars but seem to be jellin and distribute the ball really well. Dirk is playing out of his mind and Chandler has made a difference on this team. I do think Miami is going to be scary good next year and beyond with players taking less to play on this star studed squad.

  28. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    I was not discussing Ortiz Jerkface. I posted a list of the leading DH’s and Rich pulled Ortiz’s name out and posted his 2009 line to try and make a point; I guess that since Ortiz was hitting about as poorly at the same time in May 2009 as Posade, that Posada isn’t done either.

    It’s a dumb position for the reasons stated. 34 is not considered to be the end of most player’s careers. 39/40 is.

    Again, feel free to make a prediction that Posada willput up some big numbers going forward.

  29. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    you’ve missed the point.

  30. Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Sos – Her name is Melissa McCarthy and she played Sookie St. James on Gilmore Girls before this where she was also completely hysterical. I don’t watch the show she’s on now, but I hear that one’s pretty good too. ‘Mike and Molly’ or something I think its called.

  31. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    Erin,
    We missed the first 20 minutes of the movie. Started watching it when she had gotten pulled over. Did I miss much. That fat chick was a freakin riot!! Hope to see more of her in movies to come.

    ******************************

    Let me think….the only major thing I think you missed was the engagement party where Kristin Wiig and Rose Byrne keep trying to top each other’s toasts.

  32. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    That “fat” chick is Melissa McCarthey from TV show Mike and Molly-

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3824007424/tt1478338

  33. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Not sure if anyone touched on this the last day or so. Soria being pulled from the closers role. Some wanted us to give up all our minor league system last year to get Mo replacement. Is he someone you trade for now and hope he turns things around or has the ship sailed?

  34. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    “It’s a dumb position for the reasons stated.”

    You still haven’t said why you thought that Ortiz would make such a dramatic turnaround when many of the baseball cognoscenti were saying that Ortiz might be done because he was off steroids and his age was/is in question.

    Just the illogical nonsense built on hindsight which is your calling card.

  35. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    WCYF – You mean the same handful of you ID?

    No, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Feel free to actually go back and read the discussion before you talk to me.

  36. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Melissa McCarthy.

    The mother was Jill Clayburgh, who was quite sick at the time, and died last November.

  37. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    I can see how Ortiz can be compared to Posada. Both DH’s. Both struggled on a contending team all of April and May. Posada 39. Ortiz 39 in dominican years. What the problem is?

  38. Ghostwriter May 31st, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    # Ghostwriter May 31st, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    • Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    David Ortiz on 5/30/09
    .185 .286 .283 .569
    ================================================

    Nice post. I think that it’s important to have a little perspective about these things. The truth is that it is still early, and Posada could turn it around–one good month, and his BA could jump 50 or even 100 points. Moreover, it isn’t like we have a compelling alternative at the ready.

    Apparently, the Yankee FO does not believe that he is ready for the big club, and they’re in the best position to know. Montero had a chance to win a job during ST when Cervelli was injured, and failed to do so. To this point this year, Montero’s performance has been fair to middling at Triple-A (OPS .751). There is little reason to think that he would provide an immediate spark if he was brought up to the bigs. He isn’t ready.

    Finally, the offense is good enough to carry Posada even if he fails to provide any significant contributions. It looks like Cano, Tex, Gardner, and Jeter are starting to heat up, so most of our scoring woes soon should fall by the wayside for the time being. If Posada can’t fix his problems over the next several weeks, then the Yanks can make a move for a bat, or call up Montero if they deem him ready. I still think that Posada could wind up surprising us all.

  39. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Thanks fellas. Did not know McCarthy is on a sitcom. I will have to watch Mike and Molly when I get the chance. Channel and time?

  40. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    You still haven’t said why you thought that Ortiz would make such a dramatic turnaround when many of the baseball cognoscenti were saying that Ortiz might be done because he was off steroids and his age was/is in question.

    ******************

    Your inability to discuss a topic in a linear, logical manner is astounding. I never said Ortiz would do anything. YOU were the one who pulled him and him alone out of a list of DH’s I provided to show that this season Posada is a huge detriment comparatively at DH.

    When you continued to run your straw man into the ground, I pointed out that your comparison of a 34 year old to a 40 year old is a poor one to make, for obvious reasons.

  41. RS May 31st, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Just saw that Lester’s next start is getting pushed back so that he’s set to face the Yankees next Tuesday. The other starters lined up for that series are Wakefield and Buchholz.

    Lester has struggled in the month of May (5.50 ERA and 1.53 WHIP) and threw 130+ pitches yesterday. He usually pitches well against us but the Yankees touched him up for 4 runs last time.

  42. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    Your ability to miss the point over and over again is breathtaking.

  43. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    DRob30 Watchin Russ and Nick play Call of Duty MW3 sick game. Just wish I knew how to play.

  44. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    “What exactly does a temporary slump two years ago have to do with anything. Allow me to answer. Nothing.”

    Tell me, Carnac, who knew it was going to be temporary two years ago?

    Jeez, you’re so freakin’ obtuse.

    “David Ortiz on 5/30/11
    .306/.378/.549 – 11 HR and 24 RBI’s”

    Duh, that’s the point.

    “I never said Ortiz would do anything.” “David Ortiz was 34 years old in 2009 and nowhere near done.”

  45. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Joba_62 The new call of duty is sick. Just wait til Nov 8th. Y’all r going to love it!!

    Call of Duty apparently very popular w/the boys. :lol:

  46. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    I would definitely crush Nick and Russ at Call of Duty :x

  47. michaels07 May 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Alex has to stop waving and start slugging

  48. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    jerkface – He doesn’t miss points, he ignores them.

  49. Yankee Trader May 31st, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    SoS-

    I believe Mike and Molly are on CBS, Monday night from 9:30-10:00.

    Until later.

  50. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    Anyone concerned about Montero’s power outage and lack of walks? Is the Yankee front office interested more in getting something good for him in a trade and thats why they refuse to call him up? Could he end up like Ande Marte (cant miss at one time) or our very own Eric Duncan? AJAX was untouchable at one time in this blog and Cashman pulled the trigger for someone who is arguably the MVP of the Yanks for the first two months. Granderson made us forget. Can it happen once again?

  51. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Anyone concerned about Montero’s power outage and lack of walks?

    Power doesn’t just go away. Marte and Duncan were different prospects. Same with Ajax. They lacked hitting tools that Montero possesses. Jackson never had much power, though the potential for some, but struck out a heckuva lot. That was always going to be an issue that he needed harnessing. Marte struck out 100+ times every year before his first call up. He didn’t have the bat control Jesus has.

    Jesus could bust, any prospect could bust, but I’m not worried about Montero right now considering he blew up AAA last year in the 2nd half and was hitting like .400 for a month.

  52. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    You have no point.

    Fact: Posada has been a disaster at DH so far this season.

    Fact: What David Ortiz did at age 34 two years ago has nothing to do with what a 40 years old Posada will do in 2011. Posada may hit .750 the rest of the year, or he may hit .185, and it will still have nothing to do with it.

  53. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    “Your inability to discuss a topic in a linear, logical manner is astounding. ”

    This is too funny. You have yet to point out a logical inconsistency in anything I posted. You merely make conclusory statements and then vainly try to pass them off as a reasoned response.

  54. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    “What David Ortiz did at age 34 two years ago has nothing to do with what a 40 years old Posada will do in 2011.”

    See bold:

    “Nice post. I think that it’s important to have a little perspective about these things. The truth is that it is still early, and Posada could turn it around–one good month, and his BA could jump 50 or even 100 points. Moreover, it isn’t like we have a compelling alternative at the ready.”

  55. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Posada may hit .750 the rest of the year, or he may hit .185

    Ding ding ding ding ding.

  56. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Jerkface,
    A lot here said Jacksons power would come and he would be Hunter lite. I still remember experts comparing Nick Johnson to Don Mattingly. I just hope this kid isnt feeling the preasure of being “THE ONE” and only and its starting to take its tole. If the Yankees orginization does not foresee him being the next Yankee catcher. Is he worth keeping as an all time dh instead of getting someone that can help us on the field or a top of the line starter?

  57. RS May 31st, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Looking ahead, I’m wonder if the Yankees will tinker their rotation for the upcoming Sox series. Right now, the scheduled starters are Garcia, Burnett, Nova, which isn’t all that inspiring. However, with 2 off-days between now and then, the Yankees can get both Sabathia and Colon in the series on normal rest. Even getting at least one of them in (in place of Nova) would help. I’m not too concerned about the following series against Cleveland, as I think they’re starting to drop off a bit.

  58. RS May 31st, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    I don’t remember Jackson ever being rated as a top 10 prospect in MLB, and that’s with him having elite defensive and baserunning skills. Montero has been consistently rated a top 10 (mostly top 5) prospect ever since he hit AA and we know his defense has nothing to do with it. That’s how highly his bat is regarded.

  59. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    I still remember experts comparing Nick Johnson to Don Mattingly.

    Is he worth keeping as an all time dh instead of getting someone that can help us on the field or a top of the line starter?

    Nick Johnson TORE UP the minors and would have been an extremely awesome and valuable 1st baseman for his career if he was not devastated by injuries. So in a way he was Don Mattingly. Dude on bases like what and could hit for average with modest power. He was a beast. Brittle, but a beast none the less.

    For the second part, yes I think he is worth keeping because what player is he going to return? No one under control for 6 years, likely no one under control for even 2 years. I would trade him for a badass SS, or a good-great starter still under team control for 4ish years, but that doesn’t exist. So if you want to trade Montero you have to basically concede that you won’t get full value for him. So its probably better to hold onto him.

  60. Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    RS – Great points.

  61. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    but if monteros defense sucks than is he worth it? catcher is an important defense position, dont say move him to DH, cause a big time DH is not worth a front end starter that u might be able to get in a trade for him…

  62. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Austin Jackson’s ceiling was never even curtis granderson, they got an outfielder to replace him straight up. I don’t see that kind of player coming back for Montero. What bat would anyone trade? Would you trade Montero for 2 years of Shin Soo Choo?

  63. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Albert Pujols starting at third base on Tuesday against the Giants.

    For those hoping that Pujols gains third base eligibility in their league, this will be his second start at the hot corner and third appearance overall in 2011. Lance Berkman is penciled in at first Tuesday with Jon Jay in right. May 31, 3:48 PM

    Strange.

  64. Triple Short of a Cycle May 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Ortiz was going to be given until some point in June or the all star break to turn in around just like Posada is. Ortiz turned it around, if Posada doesn’t he is gone. Pretty simple

  65. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Glad you finally agree with me ID. Coming full circle you can clearly see my comment originally was pointing out what Posada has done to this date this season. NOT predicting anything.

  66. Abe Peteraham May 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    “Tex bat avg on balls in play”

    What does that mean, Anything but homeruns?

  67. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    dont say move him to DH, cause a big time DH is not worth a front end starter that u might be able to get in a trade for him…

    Who? And yea a big time DH is worth it. You think the red sox are trading 2004 Ortiz for a starter? Offensive contribution from the DH spot is necessary and vital and having a guy who can backup catcher play DH and potentially backup 1st and RF while, hopefully, OPSing .900+ will be sooo much more valuable than what will be available

  68. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Mike Piazza’s defense sucked and he’s going to the HoF.

    Given their asymmetrical mL depth, and the presence of several aging offensive players on the roster, this team needs young, offensive stars more than they need starting pitching.

  69. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    jerkface, ur tellin me a DH is as good as a front end starter?

  70. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    WCYF – It’s not the Posada performance that others are killing you for right now… it’s your statement that “Ortiz was clearly not done” when you would have already written him off just like you have been doing to Posada… and your response is hindsight heavy. Do you see that?

  71. blake May 31st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    The Yankees need a young elite bat perhaps even more than they need an elite starting pitcher. They have pitching upside in the minors.

  72. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    jerkface, ur tellin me a DH is as good as a front end starter?

    I’m asking who is the front end starter you think you’re trading for, and yes a Miguel Cabrera/David Ortiz/Edgar Martinez/Frank Thomas bat is worth more than 30 starts.

  73. austinmac May 31st, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    We all began the year hoping Posada wold be an average or abouve average DH. He is not and the second half of last year should have forewarned us. I suspect we would be hard-pressed to find anyone at his age with such a stretch for an extended period to have a big turnaround. I wish it were othjerwise, but, above all else, I want my team to win.

  74. Nick in SF May 31st, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Minutes ago on the SF Giants’ flagship station:

    Host suggests Zito + cash for Posada.

    Caller: Can he still catch???

    Host: I think he can for two months!?!?!

    Uninformed delusion.

  75. blake May 31st, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Piazza in his prime was worth more than just about any pitcher.

  76. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    jerkface i have to disagree….

    a guy who just hits and runs bases is not as game changin as a shut down pitcher, IMO

    not talkin anyone is specific, but if I could get someone like hernadez, id trade half the farm team

  77. blake May 31st, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I think its easier to answer the question “can Zito still pitch” than “can Posada still catch”.

  78. Triple Short of a Cycle May 31st, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    blake,

    Worth more then Pedro or Randy Johnson?

  79. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    not talkin anyone is specific

    Its a futile exercise then. I’d trade Jesus Montero for 6 years of club control of Felix Hernandez. Thats impossible. I’d trade Montero for Roy Halladay right after he fixes his mechanics. Thats impossible.

    There does not exist a pitcher for sale that will justify the cost in acquiring them. Hernandez has thrown a ton of innings already and would cost multiple top prospects and his team won’t trade him.

  80. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    “not talkin anyone is specific, but if I could get someone like hernadez, id trade half the farm team”

    But you can’t. and remember that pitchers are more susceptible to position players.

    Another name thrown around was Josh Johnson. He’s on the DL again.

  81. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    a guy who just hits and runs bases is not as game changin as a shut down pitcher, IMO

    Tell that to anyone who faced David Ortiz in 04.

  82. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    It would make more sense to have Zito as a backup catcher/dh here and Posada as a pitcher in SF.

  83. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    I would have taken Pedro in his prime over any hitter. My thinking is, we can make the playoffs without that hitter and win it with a shut down pitcher. See 2010 Giants.

  84. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    jerkface…

    Ortiz had a great yr (later we found out it was due to juice) not denyin that…

    u think they win without schilling? gotta say no…

  85. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    I’d trade Jesus Montero for Pedro Martinez’s AL run. Thats impossible though and even then he didn’t pitch much over 200 IP.

    Fun fact, Boston traded Carl Pavano and a PTBNL for Pedro. Thats basically Pavano for Pedro straight up. Maybe we don’t even need to trade Jesus for him.

  86. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    u think they win without schilling? gotta say no…

    But we know they don’t win without Ortiz as well. You need BOTH. And the yankees right now are not in dire need of pitching, especially pitching that doesn’t exist for trade. They need youth at the plate.

  87. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    That player was Tony Armas, Jr, who the Yankees gave them for Mike “Freakin” Stanley.

  88. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    WAR/wRC+ et. al. disagrees alot with your 2004 Ortiz assertion JF… he wasn’t even close to the best hitter in the league that year let alone as impactful as an ace like Johnson/Schilling/Sheets/Santana.

  89. I Like Inge May 31st, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    jerkface…

    Ortiz had a great yr (later we found out it was due to juice) not denyin that…

    u think they win without schilling? gotta say no…

    —————–

    Schilling does not get to pitch again in that ALCS if not for Ortiz getting game winning hits in Game 4 and 5.

  90. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    SoS

    I would have taken Pedro in his prime over any hitter. My thinking is, we can make the playoffs without that hitter and win it with a shut down pitcher. See 2010 Giants.

    ——————

    agree…

  91. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    SoS – I would hope so, Pedro in his prime produced 3 of the most dominant seasons in baseball history.

  92. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    RiverAveBlues RT @alexspeier: Lester, Buchholz, Beckett vs NY next week. Francona said undecided on what to do w/ Aceves/Wakefield. Could ‘mix and match’

  93. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Ok then take 07 Ortiz. The point is, if you wanna use WAR, from 04-07 Ortiz tabulated 21 WAR without playing defense. Which is better than all but 3 pitchers in that stretch. Brandon Webb (dead), Johan Santana (dead), and Roy Oswalt.

  94. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    There is no pitcher out there that can be traded for which guarantees a 6 bWAR season, the player doesn’t exist.

  95. blake May 31st, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    I said almost any pitcher.

  96. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    And if there were similar revenue sharing provisions in the ’90s as there are now, the Expos may not have traded Pedro, or have traded him later in his career.

  97. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Given how fragile most pitchers are, King Felix and Verlander are probably the only 2 pitchers worth trading Montero+ for.

  98. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    all im sayin is, who knows how good he will be…and at catcher with bad defense or even DH i dont think it would be worth keepin him IF (big if) some proven pitcher becomes available, no national leaguer tho

  99. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    LGY,
    Can we add Kershaw to that list.

  100. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    “all im sayin is, who knows how good he will be”

    The people who evaluate talent for a living?

  101. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Danny Haren would have likely solved any pitching holes the Yankees had for the foreseeable future.

    Frontline pitcher + elite innings eater to pair with CC.

    It really is a shame the Yankees did not go harder for him. He is the perfect pitcher to pair with CC at the top of the rotation.

  102. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    LGY,
    Can we add Kershaw to that list.

    ————

    Good call.

  103. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    I’d love to know what their final offer was for Haren.

  104. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    rich….

    take evaluation to the bank and ask for cash

    results are the only way to kno…

  105. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    results are the only way to kno…

    Same can be said for transporting any pitcher to the yankees and asking them to be as effective as they were and stay healthy. Its all a crapshoot. Mitigating risk is the name of the game, which is why I don’t empty the farm for King Felix.

  106. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    I’d love to know what their final offer was for Haren.

    :x HAAAAAAAAAAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN :x

  107. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Doc Iac

    You have to view it in context though. At some point in their development, evaluative decisions had to be made about every great/very good player in MLB history. What other way is there if you want to, in effect, buy low?

  108. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    jerkface…i agree with that…

    (randy johnson)

    i think its worth the risk, only cause it seems pitchin is the usual sucess to winnin the WS

  109. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    With Posey out for the year. SF offense huting. Lets say they fall out of the race in the next month. Anyone see the possiblility of Matt Cain being available? If so, I know his e.r.a. has climbed recently. But i still think he is a solid #2 pitcher. Thoughts on Cain?

  110. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    if Nova had pitched 1 year in the bigs prior to 2010 we probably could have traded Nova+z-mac+whomever for Haren. Don’t know what the yankees were thinking on Haren, but in the end the stupid ownership of the d-backs went after a ‘proven’ pitcher in Joe Saunders.

  111. Doc Iac May 31st, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Rich thats a good point…

    but i think the talent level for pitchers is so different between AAA and the majors, that a hitter might mash in AAA and get fooled up in the bigs

  112. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Thoughts on Cain?

    flyball righty. Probably still do ok but I wouldn’t expend A++ prospects for him.

  113. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    jerkface – you forgot winner. proven winner. lol :)

  114. Joe from Long Island May 31st, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Yes, Joe Saunders. Goes to show that once a pitcher has some ML experience, rightly or wrongly, he becomes more of a desirable quantity than most AAA pitchers.

  115. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Don’t know what the yankees were thinking on Haren, but in the end the stupid ownership of the d-backs went after a ‘proven’ pitcher in Joe Saunders.

    =========

    Dei ja vu? Schilling to the Yanks?

  116. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    This would probably be my list of pitchers I would consider trading Montero for

    Felix
    Verlander
    Kershaw
    Price
    Hanson
    Pineda
    Brett Anderson

    Hamels, Weaver, and Lincecum are too close to FA. Josh Johnson is too fragile.

    What do you guys think?

  117. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    “Dei ja vu? Schilling to the Yanks?”

    Except they made a conscious decision to go with the younger pitcher in Vazquez, which was arguably supportable at the time with the only caveat being that Vazquez led MLB starters the season before in abuse points.

    In this instance, they either held on to their chips, or they were told that their chips were insufficient to get a deal done.

  118. RS May 31st, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Kind of annoying that we gave the D-Backs Ian Kennedy, who is their ace, and got nothing back from them, while the Angels basically stole Haren away for a middling #4 starter

  119. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Nevermind, I miscalculated how close Lincecum is to FA.

    So, add him to the list.

  120. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Rich,
    Didnt they go after Vasquez as a plan b after Boston landed Curt?

  121. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    I think I’d rather take the risk involved in keeping Montero with the idea that he will increase his trade value by establishing himself as a proven ML starter, and then consider trading him somewhere down the road if, for example, Banuelos and/or Betances don’t become the starting pitchers they envision they will become.

  122. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    The Diamondbacks would swap Schilling and Junior Spivey for Alfonso Soriano and Nick Johnson. Today, that doesn’t seem like quite a high price, but five and a half years ago, it did to the Yankees.

    By Friday, the Yankees had moved on to Javier Vazquez. The Yankees would not, according to Curry, “trade their two best young players for Schilling because they feel the monetary relief they would be giving Arizona eliminates the need for them to trade equal talent.” At that point, Schilling also expressed his desire to go to only the Yankees or the Phillies. Brian Cashman left the GM meetings with the team feeling insulted by the Diamondbacks’ offers.

    Jack Curry reported. Then they traded him to the Red Sox for peanuts. The D-backs ownership/GM had it out for the Yankees.

  123. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    SoS

    I guess it depends on who you believe. There were some reports that Arizona wanted both Soriano and Nick Johnson (contrast that with the Fossum-led package that the RS gave up).

    Other reports (and Schilling himself when he posted on NYYFans at the time) said that it was either/or not both.

    So I think it’s reasonable to believe that Cash opted for Vazquez because he was younger.

    btw, Schilling also said that the Yankees made the right move because of the age difference.

  124. Patrick May 31st, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Hey weren’t there people on this blog a week or two ago BLASTING jerkface for saying that Teixeira is a good hitter?

  125. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Once Tex has an 0-fer we will go back to monitoring him in 10 game samples.

  126. Tom in N.J. May 31st, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Didn’t that have to do w/ the fact David Wells agreed to a deal w/ the d-backs, only to back out after the Boss called Boomer?

  127. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    From 2004 (obviously, the reporter could be wrong)

    http://www.nydailynews.com/fea.....-over.html

    Or maybe it was the Yankee front office, led by Brian Cashman, choosing to go after Javier Vazquez instead of Curt Schilling in the previous offseason.

  128. Rich in NJ May 31st, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    The Steinbrenner storm passed, and in mid-December, Cashman pounced on Javier Vazquez, landing the 27-year-old pitcher from the Montreal Expos in exchange for three spare parts. Other Yankees executives preferred the more experienced Curt Schilling. “There’s a ten-year age difference, and Vazquez is a little cheaper,” Cashman says. “We had our choice, and the truth of the matter is that Boston wanted Vazquez ahead of Schilling.”

    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/.....ndex1.html

  129. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    I asked this question a few years ago on this blog.

    If you had to erase a year of baseball and have a do over. Which one of these would you erase?

    2004 Sox meltdown giving the sox their first since forever.
    2001 9th inning of game 7 D-BACKS W.S. just falling short of a 4 peat.

  130. Nick in SF May 31st, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    “Hey weren’t there people on this blog a week or two ago BLASTING jerkface for saying that Teixeira is a good hitter?”

    He got grounded.

  131. RadioKev May 31st, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Should we start the pool on when Montero gets the call up?

  132. CCBiggs May 31st, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    If Tex is feeling so good at the plate, why is he batting in the .250s? Did he suddenly become Jason Giambi?

  133. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    NSF,
    Will O STATE be put on probation for 2 years like USC?

  134. vinny-b May 31st, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Mark Texeria:

    and i’ll say it again: You need to be more consistent.

    160 million reasons to.

  135. RadioKev May 31st, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    CCBiggs May 31st, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    If Tex is feeling so good at the plate, why is he batting in the .250s? Did he suddenly become Jason Giambi?
    ——–

    Did you even read the post?

  136. blake May 31st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Id take Giambi’s offense from his first couple years and Tex’s defense anytime.

  137. Nick in SF May 31st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    SoS: I hope so. Maybe that would further buoy Jeter’s spirits too.

  138. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    NSF,
    Michigan got a pretty good coach. The guy made S.D.ST. The talk of SoCal last year. Jeters spirits might not need OST. to get a timeout. Though it wouldnt hurt.

  139. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Yu Darvish is killing it over in Japan:

    7 GS, 58 IP, 1.86 ERA

    5.7 H/9, 10.1 K/9, 1.6 BB/9

  140. RadioKev May 31st, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Hm, I hadn’t noticed the Red Sox’ Tazawa had surgery last year. Completely forgot about him in every way.

  141. West Coast Yankee Fan May 31st, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    WCYF – It’s not the Posada performance that others are killing you for right now… it’s your statement that “Ortiz was clearly not done” when you would have already written him off just like you have been doing to Posada… and your response is hindsight heavy. Do you see that?

    *************

    Your just so incapable I don’t know what I bother.

    I never said Posada was done, I said he has been a failure to-date at the DH spot and posted other DH’s numbers to show just how poorly he is doing. Rich pulled Ortiz name from the list and posted stats from two years ago; for a player who is five years younger.

  142. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    LGY,
    We have a Japanese strikeout king in AAA that happens to be a lefty. Too bad we couldnt get the smaller Japanese balls imported for his starts.

  143. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    rumor has it I have a 10K/9 in japan too…

  144. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    WCYF – You should be more careful about jumping into conversations then… because you clearly were not following it, don’t even understand what you responded to, or why it didn’t apply at all.

    You are so ignorant I don’t know where to start.

  145. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    WCYF – Just keep thinking that you’re the only one that understands. It’ll work out for you in life, promise.

  146. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    rumor has it I have a 10K/9 in japan too…

    =======

    Kei is that you!! Gyroman??
    Hell if fat toad had a 10k/9 in Japan. Anyone can.

  147. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    I want Yu Darvish, because he is japanese.

  148. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    I want Yu Darvish, because he is japanese.

    =====

    I just want him because his name is Yu. You not Yu can yell out to him (yes to Yu )”Yu the man.. Yu!!”.
    It would sort of be like the “Whos on first” classic.

  149. Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    There are a lot of “Yu” jokes in the movie Club Dread

  150. Nick in SF May 31st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    He is not pure Japanese, though his background is known and perhaps makes him even better.

    The exposure of Irabu’s impurity may have destroyed his already-fragile psyche.

    Then again, maybe not. :neutral:

  151. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Also because he is tall and lanky with good stuff. If the NPB were rolled up into the majors we’d see the same number of quality japanese players as other ethnic groups, but most of their best don’t come here and coming here is no guarantee that they are the best.

  152. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Yu Darvish shares my love for japanese idols and japanese brothels.

  153. Nick in SF May 31st, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    As Ichiro shares your love for Ichiro?

  154. LGY May 31st, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Y/N?

    Yankees make a run at Darvish next year.

  155. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Yes, they’ve been on him for a long time but if its a posting fee situation they are only as good as their best guess to salary.

  156. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Never saw the movie. Looked it up and i got this

    Juan: Yu and Hank are dead!
    Coconut Pete: …What did we do?
    Juan: No! Yu and Hank are f-ing dead!
    Coconut Pete: Is that a threat?
    Share this quote

  157. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Yes, they’ve been on him for a long time but if its a posting fee situation they are only as good as their best guess to salary.

    =====

    They can always ridiculously over bid ala Sox on Dice.

  158. Nick in SF May 31st, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    I thought we were getting Chapman, so I’m disqualifying myself. :mad:

  159. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    They can always ridiculously over bid ala Sox on Dice.

    I’m pretty sure they thought they were ridiculously overbidding on dice-k, what if someone overbids their overbid?! Blind posting system is dumb. I wonder what would have had happened if Dice-K came to the Yankees. He wouldn’t have had to ditch his throwing program and get on the draconian red sox shoulder program. Might have turned out a bit different.

  160. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Jerkface,
    I wonder what would have happened if we lost out of Igawa and instead went after lilly?

  161. blake May 31st, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Just say no to Japanese pitchers..

  162. Jerkface May 31st, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Don’t make me destroy you, Blake.

  163. GreenBeret7 May 31st, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    SoS May 31st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    Has any starting player ever hit under .200 on a contending team to begin the month of June?
    I hope the “waiting for Jeters 3000 and retire” rumors are true. Like someone else mentioned earlier. If he cant hit, hes useless.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    On May 25th, 2004 Jeter was hitting .189. In the next 5 days/games in 24 at bats he had 11 hits to get to .220. he ended the season at .292.

  164. Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    I might be late on this.. but did you guys hear about this beer scandal thing at MLB parks lol?

    Too funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ata_player

  165. SoS May 31st, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    GB,
    Hope everythings going well for you.
    How long do you give Posada to bring that average up?

  166. blake May 31st, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    “Don’t make me destroy you, Blake.”

    Lol… start by listing all the Japanese pitchers in baseball history that have been a good investment (besides Nomo for a couple years) ;)

  167. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    eboland11 A rare sight: the tarp on the field in Oakland. Told last rainout here was 1998. Doesn’t mean we’ll have one tonight.

    YESKimJones Caught up with @PhilHughes65. (Recorder worked this time.) And blogged about it. Here: http://bit.ly/iSzuAA

  168. GreenBeret7 May 31st, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    jnorris427 Josh Norris
    Shaeffer Hall is your Eastern League Pitcher of the Week

  169. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Shame-that’s hilarious. LOL

  170. MTU May 31st, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    GB-

    What’s your take on Hall ?

    He seems to be flying under the radar.

  171. Shame Spencer May 31st, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Erin – I couldn’t believe it!! When I saw beer scandal my mind immediately went to drunks beating on each other, not stadiums swindling their drunkard fan bases.

  172. Erin May 31st, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    New Post w/lineup

    :arrow:

  173. GreenBeret7 May 31st, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    SoS, doing pretty well. Thanks for asking. Hope you, mrs SoS and our little Yankee infielder is doing well.

    I’d pull the plug at the ASB on Posada. If he at least hits a little bit better against right handed pitchers, he has value. Not so sure that he sees pitches well out of the lead eye batting right handed (left eye). I noticed that he almost bails out against the left handed pitchers which is strange. Like he’s not picking the ball up in time.

  174. GreenBeret7 May 31st, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    MTU, I like Hall a lot. He and Bleich when healthy are Pettitte type clones in their stuff, pitches they possess and their mound smarts. Pitch to contact left handers.

  175. MTU May 31st, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Thanks GB.

    Any chance he helps us out this season ?

    Maybe out of the pen ?

  176. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    GB7 -

    Was that your “Killer” in the E-mail?

  177. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Question, after we run Posada, Jeter and Swisher out of town, who will we turn our knives on next?

  178. MTU May 31st, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Al-

    Would you like me to post the photo of “Killer” here ?

  179. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    MTU -

    Good idea.

  180. MTU May 31st, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    Al-

    Ok.

    Here goes.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/cybermrb03/Killer?authkey=Gv1sRgCIK_uPfqktH9fw#

    :)

  181. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Mike -

    That’s great, now when GB talks about “Killer”, we can all reference this post, thanks.

  182. MTU May 31st, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Al-

    It’s about time someone intervened. Perhaps the public embarrassment will get him back on the right track, so to speak.

    :)

  183. GreenBeret7 May 31st, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    That’s not “Killer”. That’s his brother, “Diller”.

    this is “Killer”. what a handsome brute, huh?

    http://geoffmackay.com/wp-cont.....ly-dog.jpg

  184. GreenBeret7 May 31st, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    MTU, not likely that Hall makes it this year. Late 2012 possibly

  185. MTU May 31st, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    GB-

    With those looks “Killer” must have a lot of money stashed somewhere.

    ;)

  186. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    GB7 -

    Could there be 2 “Killer’s”, the sober one that scares the hell out of you, and the pizza eating, beer drinking one?

  187. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    MTU -

    In reading reports from MiLB, it appears our Killer “B”s are more than a year away.

    GB – any thoughts?

  188. BIG AL May 31st, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Later folks, enjoy the game.


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