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No. 3,000: A question of where, not when

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 02, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

“That’ll probably be the only pressure thing, to try to do it at home. I know we go to Anaheim next. Then we go home. When you get closer, maybe, but we’re still a long ways away.”
– Derek Jeter

At this point, the question of when it’s nearly as interesting as the question of where. Derek Jeter has 2,984 career hits. The only player to get this far without reaching 3,000 was a guy named Sam Rice who played his last game in 1934. Lou Gehrig never got this far. Neither did Babe Ruth.

Three thousand hits is one of those colossal numbers, and it looks funny spelled out. Maybe it’s arbitrary, a benchmark only because it ends with a bunch of zeros, but in this game, that number carries weight. And in a perfect world, the first Yankee to reach that milestone, would do it in the Bronx.

Jeter has 58 hits in 52 games this season. That’s a pace of 1.115 hits per game. He needs 16 hits to reach 3,000, and if he keeps his current pace, he’ll reach that benchmark in 14 or 15 games.

The next Yankees home stand ends 13 games from today.

Of course, if Jeter keeps his pace from the past month — 1.25 hits per game since May 2 — he’ll reach 3,000 in 13 games, putting him right on track for the final day of the home stand.

It’s tantalizingly close, and the Yankees schedule might have bought Joe Girardi a little peace of mind. With off days the past two Thursdays, plus another off day on Monday, Girardi doesn’t necessarily have to give his shortstop a day off. Jeter can keep playing, try to get just slightly hot, and a take a shot at breaking the record before the Yankees travel to Chicago on June 17.

“I don’t really look at it as being close,” Jeter said. “We’re around the corner, the next block, but we’re not close.”

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117 Responses to “No. 3,000: A question of where, not when”

  1. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    They may even fail to retain Colon or Garcia if another team is dumb enough to give them 2 years based on this years performance.

  2. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Go Jeter….get it at home!

  3. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    only problem is that Jeter has been really bad hitting at the stadium this year…..might be a fluke but he’s been much better on the road.

  4. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    might be a fluke but he’s been much better on the road.

    Pressure might be getting to him, would explain his struggling with RISP and relative ease of base knocks in the early going.

  5. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    If Colon stays healthy and keeps pumping 95 MPH up there then it wouldn’t be THAT shocking to see some team offer him 2 years…..probably would be ill advised, but teams make dumb deals all the time.

  6. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Kei Igawa will be a FA this year, maybe they will look into him

  7. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Still can’t believe they never traded Igawa to the Padres, he would have made out like a bandit in the NL west

  8. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    “Pressure might be getting to him”

    I’m sure he’d say that he’s not thinking about it….but it has to be in the back of his mind, in addition to trying to prove he’s worth his new contract. The splits are pretty stark and the sample size is getting fairly significant.

    Home : .228/.300/.246/.546
    Road : .302/.359/.425/.784

    That road slash is a lot closer to Derek Jeter

  9. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Maybe the Yankees have faced a lot more LHP on the road than at home??

  10. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    “Maybe the Yankees have faced a lot more LHP on the road than at home??”

    have they?

  11. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    .250 BABIP at home
    .330 on the Road

    Maybe the short right field isn’t helping him.

  12. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    have they?

    —————–

    No idea. Too lazy to figure it out right now.

    They have faced 3 LH starters in 6 games so far on the WC trip.

  13. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    He’s hitting 72% ground balls at home, and 60% on the road.

  14. Tom in N.J. June 2nd, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Odd splits this year fot Jeet. In 2010 Jeter:

    Away: .246 .317 .317 .633

    Home: 295 .365 .425 .790

  15. Nick in SF June 2nd, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    “…in addition to trying to prove he’s worth his new contract.”

    If that’s a factor, I wish he would aim higher and try to prove he’s worth the contract he really wanted.

    :neutral:

  16. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    “They have faced 3 LH starters in 6 games so far on the WC trip.”

    yea but 2 of the righties they faced were Felix and Pineda and he got some knocks off them….I don’t know…..maybe he’s just more comfortable and not pressing as much on the road right now.

  17. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Minka has to go.

  18. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Tom,

    yea it is weird….he’s always had better numbers at home throughout his career.

  19. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    “Minka has to go.”

    ding ding ding….hey I can see how she could distract a fella

  20. Tom in N.J. June 2nd, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Hollywood Jeter?

  21. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    yea but 2 of the righties they faced were Felix and Pineda and he got some knocks off them….I don’t know…..maybe he’s just more comfortable and not pressing as much on the road right now.

    —————

    Eh. He didn’t get any hits off Pineda and one of his hits off Felix was pretty lucky. Felix was laughing after it dunked in.

  22. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Still can’t believe they never traded Igawa to the Padres, he would have made out like a bandit in the NL west

    ***********

    Last I heard, to trade a player one needs a willing partner.

  23. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    “Eh. He didn’t get any hits off Pineda and one of his hits off Felix was pretty lucky. Felix was laughing after it dunked in.”

    Take em how you can get em off Felix.

  24. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Last I heard, to trade a player one needs a willing partner.

    The padres have been rumored to be interested in Igawa since his 2nd year here. A flyball lefty with some decent K ability could have done some damage in petco. Always seemed like the Yankees were just content to let Igawa sit in AAA because of his contract.

  25. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Igawa wants to stay in the US.

    Hopefully he gets s shot with an NL team in a big ballpark.

  26. Warning Track Power June 2nd, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    in a perfect world Jeter can get his 3,000th hit in front of the Yankee fan, in The Bronx.
    then again, the man has been blessed his entire career, so i really hope the Yankees run him onto the field, no matter where the game is being played.
    if the accomplishment takes place like somewhere in Chicago, so be it.

  27. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Wonder where the Jeter detractors have gone? Guess who is 2nd on the team in hits and runs scored? Uh huh.

  28. Tom in N.J. June 2nd, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    From 2007. The Padres claimed Igawa off waivers but they couldn’t reach a deal so the Yankees pulled him back:

    Padres, Yankees working on Igawa deal

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=2969449

  29. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Interesting. What rumor? I never heard that, do you have a link?

  30. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Thanks Tom. I wonder what prevented that from happening. Yankees asking too much?

  31. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Probably a function of prospects vs salary relief.

  32. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Wonder where the Jeter detractors have gone? Guess who is 2nd on the team in hits and runs scored? Uh huh.

    —–

    Please tell me your joking.

  33. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Joking about what? Seems to me Jeter has pretty much shut everyone up who thought he was done.

  34. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    2nd on the team in hits? Its almost as if … no that couldn’t be right… is it possible… could it be… he has the most ABs on the team?

  35. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    My guess is that the Yankees refused to eat as much of Igawa’s contract as the Padres wanted.

  36. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Plus that rumored deal was 4 years ago.

  37. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Jeter is back!! .264 .328 .332 .660*

    *At one time hit .283 .336 .354 .690 this season

  38. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    My guess is that the Yankees refused to eat as much of Igawa’s contract as the Padres wanted.

    And the padres likely refused to up their offer for the salary relief.

  39. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Joking about what? Seems to me Jeter has pretty much shut everyone up who thought he was done.

    —-

    Posting about how much Jeter has sucked this year is just obvious. Personally I have stopped as much as possible b/c there is nothing new to really be said.

    He has been one of the worst SS in the AL, has shown no ability to hit RHP, and his OPS+ is 82.

    He has been significantly worse than 2010. What on earth are you talking about that he has shut people up???

  40. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    2nd on the team in hits? Its almost as if … no that couldn’t be right… is it possible… could it be… he has the most ABs on the team?

    ***********

    Ohhhhh!!! I get it! Most AB’s guarantees you to be a team leader in hits! Who knew!

  41. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Ohhhhh!!! I get it! Most AB’s guarantees you to be a team leader in hits! Who knew!

    He isn’t 2nd on the team in batting average.

  42. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Are there people out there who think Jeter has been good this year??

    I thought it was accepted that he has sucked.

  43. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    The cold weather in NY early might have a lot to do with Jeter’s home splits, and I doubt King Felix is laughing; career-wise Jeter is .346/.433/.462 against Felix in 26AB’s.

  44. Tom in N.J. June 2nd, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    It’s way too early to say that Jeter’s ‘back.’

    Heck last week Carl Crawford was ‘back’ because he had two 4-4 games.

    He’s gone 3-19 since then.

  45. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    The cold weather in NY early might have a lot to do with Jeter’s home splits

    Another failure by the Yankees in acquiring a latin american shortstop.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    I think Jeter is doing just fine, he’s far from done.

  47. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Jeter has been good on the road and against LH pitching.

  48. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    scranton and brackman have a 2-0 lead after one inning. Brackman has a great curve and absolutely no control of his fastball. 0 hits, 1 walk, 1 strikeout and 1 WP. 22 pitches and 12 strikes

    In the second inning, he walked the first two batters and hit the third batter in the head with a 3-1 pitch. he’s out of the game. 39 pitches, 17 strikes. He threw 3 pitches over the hitters heads and two more to the backstop.

    Pope gives up a 3 run double.

  49. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    I think Jeter is doing just fine, he’s far from done.

    ——

    He is doing WORSE than last season. Significantly worse.

    He is doing exactly what his detractors said he would do. That is, decline.

  50. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Ok, didn’t read the rest of this and didn’t realize we are polarizes again in that usual unproductive way. Please do not read my post as in anyway a part of this usual inane prattling.

    Think I will go back to listening to the RiverDogs.

  51. Nick in SF June 2nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    WCYF doesn’t know it, but he’s cruelly indicting the rest of the lineup for not getting enough hits.

  52. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    *polarizing*

  53. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    GB7, ah, Brackman pitching. That I *will* check out.

    Dogs already down 3-0 with Mikey O’Brien on the mound. Sosa leading off; Heathcott getting a blow.

  54. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Jeter has like a .900 OPS his last 7 games, if he wants to keep doing that I’d be cool with it. Right now he is near last in like every category for SSs

  55. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    # Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    The cold weather in NY early might have a lot to do with Jeter’s home splits

    Another failure by the Yankees in acquiring a latin american shortstop.
    ______
    With all the early games in frigidly cold NY, best to sign only Canadians like Russell Martin. ;)

  56. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    “He is doing WORSE than last season. Significantly worse.”

    except that the season is far from over and that he is improving as the season is going instead of going the other way like he did last year. He’s had worse starts to seasons than this year before.

  57. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    With all the early games in frigidly cold NY, best to sign only Canadians like Russell Martin.

    They wilt when the summer comes though. We need to crossbreed alaskan inuits with venezuelan catchers

  58. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Heck last week Carl Crawford was ‘back’ because he had two 4-4 games. He’s gone 3-19 since then

    —-

    And unsurprisingly WC was leading the charge of how great Crawford is and that he knew he would come around.

  59. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    I don’t care what stats other shortstops have that has nothing to do with his value for the team. All the projections that Jeter was toast were obviously wrong.

  60. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    except that the season is far from over and that he is improving as the season is going instead of going the other way like he did last year. He’s had worse starts to seasons than this year before.

    Actually his may last year was about the same, maybe a little better than this year. .280 last year with a higher OBP vs .270 this year. He just didn’t have the incredibly babip friendly month of april he had in 2010 to where it looked like he was declining, but it was deceptive. So he got off to a worse start, had a very similar may, what will June hold? Hopefully 3000 and better results.

  61. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Crawford? He’s a great talent. Talk to me at the end of the season.

  62. tyanksfan36 June 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    GB and Yankeefem

    They released the All-Star player selection for the FSL and the Tampa Yankees only have 1 representative. Rob Lyerly. We are hoping Luis decides to use him as the DH and not in the field. I am excited for the All-Star game this year, its being played at Clearwater and the whole TY booster club is going.

  63. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    YankeeFem, brackman may have had five fastball strikes and one of those was on a foul bunt. That’s as bad as he’s ever been.

  64. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Jerkface,

    I expect his home numbers to improve….they are way worse than they should be and a correction is in order there. He needs to walk more and see more pitches….change his approach a little and we’ve seen some evidence lately that maybe he’s doing that…..we’ll see

  65. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    I don’t care what stats other shortstops have that has nothing to do with his value for the team. All the projections that Jeter was toast were obviously wrong

    ——-

    Please share the numbers you are looking at that show how good Jeter has been.

    He is batting 264 with a .660 OPS and a huge platoon split.

  66. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    change his approach a little and we’ve seen some evidence lately that maybe he’s doing that

    He has walked a lot more in the past 2 weeks, I really like that. And he actually pulled a ball for power.

  67. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Crawford is a good baseball talent….he’s a great athlete but a good baseball player. The back of his baseball card suggests that as well.

  68. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Jeter walking more has def been really nice to see

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    I don’t need to delve into endless statistics LGY to prove what my eyes and basic stats tell me; such as his hitting .276 the last month. Jeter is doing much better than many detractors predicted. Many said he was done.

  70. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    I think Jeter was trying too hard to erase 2010 earlier in the season….he was forcing it. Hopefully he’s over that now and after 3,000 is over he can settle in and just play

  71. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    # blake June 2nd, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Jerkface,

    I expect his home numbers to improve….they are way worse than they should be and a correction is in order there. He needs to walk more and see more pitches….change his approach a little and we’ve seen some evidence lately that maybe he’s doing that…..we’ll see
    _____
    Jeter has a .250 home BABIP; that is all the saber crowd needs to know. If this were a player they were advocating for that BABIP would say it all.

    Love the way a Jeter 3,000 hits thread degenerates into a … (again). B-o-r-i-n-g.

  72. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    They just said on MLB tonight that Pujols is on track to shatter the MLB record for grounding into DP’s. If he does have a down year I think it’ll be interesting to see what it does to his market. The track record yells fluke….but what if it is the start of decline.?.. He is nearing the end of his prime years……

  73. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    I don’t need to delve into endless statistics LGY to prove what my eyes and basic stats tell me; such as his hitting .276 the last month. Jeter is doing much better than many detractors predicted. Many said he was done

    ——

    Endless stats? These are basic stats.

    I have no idea what detractors you are talking about, but from what I have seen you are completely wrong. I’m a Jeter detractor and certainly did not think he would be this bad.

    Jeter has been really bad. I have no idea where you are getting this stuff from.

  74. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    “Jeter has a .250 home BABIP; that is all the saber crowd needs to know. If this were a player they were advocating for that BABIP would say it all.”

    are you saying that Saber dudes use numbers at times only when it fits their arguments? say it aint so :)

  75. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    #

    # GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    YankeeFem, brackman may have had five fastball strikes and one of those was on a foul bunt. That’s as bad as he’s ever been.

    ____
    I just turned it on just in time to see Brewer K’ing with the bases loaded. Watching Brackman now.

  76. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    # blake June 2nd, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    “Jeter has a .250 home BABIP; that is all the saber crowd needs to know. If this were a player they were advocating for that BABIP would say it all.”

    are you saying that Saber dudes use numbers at times only when it fits their arguments? say it aint so :)
    ____
    Who? Little ole me. Nahhhhhhh! :)

  77. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    “I’m a Jeter detractor and certainly did not think he would be this bad.”

    why not be a Jeter supporter since he plays for the Yankees……be a Kevin Youkalis detractor.

  78. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    .250 BABIP may have something to do with his 12% line drive rate and 66% ground ball rate. It was worse in April where we had a ton of home games (9% line drive rate)

    Jeter’s BABIP will rise… if he hits line drives. Can’t say the same for a guy hitting a ton of ground balls.

  79. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    GB7, Um maybe not, Brackman already out of the game…

  80. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Jeter has a .250 home BABIP; that is all the saber crowd needs to know. If this were a player they were advocating for that BABIP would say it all.

    ———————–

    Jeter’s LD rate at home is 8.8%. His GB rate is 72.5%.

    He is probably actually lucky to have a .250 BABIP at home.

  81. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Is NY metro area getting the Giants-Cards game or the AL game on mlb network?

  82. Nick in SF June 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    SF Metro area is getting Twins-Royals on MLB, to not answer your question.

  83. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    why not be a Jeter supporter since he plays for the Yankees……be a Kevin Youkalis detractor.

    —————–

    I will always support what Jeter does on the field to help the Yankees and hope he does better.

    I just don’t expect it. Maybe detractor is just a bad choice of words to describe how I feel about Jetes.

  84. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    # Nick in SF June 2nd, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    SF Metro area is getting Twins-Royals on MLB, to not answer your question.
    _____
    Thanks, Nick. That helped a lot. :roll:

  85. J. Alfred Prufrock June 2nd, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Here comes the Jeter countdown. It’s going to be another “we’d better go today, what if he gets 3 hits” type thing for a while. Kind of tough when you can’t reasonably just keep attending game after game. Makes me wish I still lived in NYC.

    Oh well, I’ll be glad if I’m there.

  86. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    “Are you saying that Saber dudes use numbers at times only when it fits their arguments?”

    D U H !

  87. Nick in SF June 2nd, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    I saw George Brett’s 3,000th hit in Anaheim in 1992. He was 4 hits away, a buddy of mine and I went just in case but fully expecting to return the next night. But he got all 4 hits that night, it was great.

    It was also a little surreal, we walked up and scalped tickets a couple rows in from the Royals’ on-deck circle for face value. Maybe face was considered paying too much for the Angels in those days.

  88. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    YankeeFem, that’s Ryan Pope relieving. Came in with nobody out in the 2nd inning.

  89. blake June 2nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    George brett = ballplayer

  90. jacksquat June 2nd, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    I posted a week or two ago that Jeter’s splits were really weird.

    They are still really weird.

    vs. Left 62 13 18 4 0 1 2 10 2 4 1 0 .290 .405 .403 .808
    vs. Right 158 21 40 3 1 1 14 10 1 23 4 2 .253 .295 .304 .599

    Home 114 18 26 2 0 0 7 11 2 13 2 0 .228 .300 .246 .546
    Away 106 16 32 5 1 2 9 9 1 14 3 2 .302 .359 .425 .784

    Day 61 12 20 4 0 2 10 10 2 5 1 1 .328 .421 .492 .913
    Night 159 22 38 3 1 0 6 10 1 22 4 1 .239 .287 .270 .557

    None On 140 2 42 7 0 2 2 14 1 17 0 0 .300 .368 .393 .761
    Runners On 80 32 16 0 1 0 14 6 2 10 5 2 .200 .261 .225 .486
    Scoring Position 56 25 10 0 1 0 14 4 2 7 2 0 .179 .242 .214 .456
    Lead Off Inning 76 2 29 4 0 2 2 6 1 10 0 0 .382 .434 .513 .947

  91. LGY June 2nd, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    They just said on MLB tonight that Pujols is on track to shatter the MLB record for grounding into DP’s. If he does have a down year I think it’ll be interesting to see what it does to his market. The track record yells fluke….but what if it is the start of decline.?.. He is nearing the end of his prime years……

    ————–

    Holy crap. He has 16 :shock: GIDP already?

  92. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    #

    # GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    YankeeFem, that’s Ryan Pope relieving. Came in with nobody out in the 2nd inning.
    ____
    Brackman faced 7 batters. I see the WP and HBP in addition to the 3 BB’s. I assume they just wanted to get him out of there after all the laboring; however, I hope there was no injury.

  93. This Year June 2nd, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Big time regression by Brackman. Seems to have more than a touch of Steve Blass disease. Hope for the kid’s sake– and the Yankees’– that he is able to find the cure. I have my doubts as this is a very bad recurrence.

  94. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Brackman might end up in the bullpen by the end of this year

  95. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Jeter has a .250 home BABIP; that is all the saber crowd needs to know.

    Congrats on not knowing how BABIP works yankeefeminista.

  96. Tar June 2nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    “Maybe detractor is just a bad choice of words to describe how I feel about Jetes”

    Title of post 3000 a question of where not when.

    Scroll to the bottom and read LGY,

    I can think of a good choice of words to describe you and how you feel about Jeter.

    I will just say a lack of respect ( for one desrving it) is not an admirable quality.

  97. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I can’t find the 2010 figure but in 2009 the expected BABIP on ground balls was .240
    Jeter is hitting 70% ground balls at home for whatever reason.
    He is not due for correction in that regard.

  98. hardwired7 June 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Is NY metro area getting the Giants-Cards game or the AL game on mlb network?

    ————-

    Giants-Cards, YankeeFem.

  99. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    # Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I can’t find the 2010 figure but in 2009 the expected BABIP on ground balls was .240
    Jeter is hitting 70% ground balls at home for whatever reason.
    He is not due for correction in that regard.
    _____________
    Does that factor in cold weather? Probably not.

  100. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    # hardwired7 June 2nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Is NY metro area getting the Giants-Cards game or the AL game on mlb network?

    ————-

    Giants-Cards, YankeeFem.
    ______
    Thanks!

  101. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    ID – you should have a blog of your own. You can talk all day long about statistics. I’m sure you would need to expand to accommodate all your dedicated patrons.

  102. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    WCYF – You should listen to half of the things that people say here, you might not be so nuts.

  103. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    He could be like you and merely invent followers to agree with him. Vineyard Discourse would be a good first fan.

  104. Tar June 2nd, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    “He is not due for correction in that regard.”

    Well if he doesn’t continue to hit GB at that rate, wouldn’t his corresponding Babip go up?

    Or, another way to say it is –

    If you beleive his GB rate is going to drop, wouldn’t it be safe to assume a “correction” in his babip?

  105. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Tar – Yes. Just have to figure out why he’s hitting ground balls.

  106. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    … and not blame it on cold weather.

  107. Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    If you beleive his GB rate is going to drop, wouldn’t it be safe to assume a “correction” in his babip?

    Only if you believe he would correct his line drive rate, and that proportion of ground balls which decreased did not turn into fly balls. For example, on the year, his line drive rate is worse than last year, his ground ball rate is around the same, but he is hitting more fly balls.

    Flyballs are the hardest to drop in for hits, but do the most damage in terms of becoming XBH. Linedrives go for hits the most. Groundballs go for hits more than flyballs but rarely for any power.

    There is little advantage to being a groundball hitter unless you’re fast, it limits what you can do.

  108. Irreverent Discourse June 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    also… all those things jerkface just said.

    I don’t even like wine…

  109. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    YankeeFem, I think they were more afraid that Brackman was going to hurt somebody else. 2 pitches to the backstop, not counting the wild pitch, threw 2 pitches over the batters heads and hit one batter in the head. His curve and slider were great, but the walks and hit batters were on fastballs. Not only that but, the fastballs were i the low 90s.

  110. Tar June 2nd, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    “Only if you believe he would correct his line drive rate, and that proportion of ground balls which decreased did not turn into fly balls’

    Well this new territory for me- but I can assume that there is 3 outcomes of a batted ball.
    GB-LD-FB.

    I would believe if he is hitting GB at an unsustainable rate, ( I do) that both FB and LD rate will increase.

    Because I try to stay positive, that tells me he will get more hits (LD) and hit for more power (FB). :D

  111. West Coast Yankee Fan June 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    You sure do enough of it Manni.

  112. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Romine just got steamrolled at the plate by the runner, who is a catcher, knocking the ball loose to score a run.

  113. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    some whacky stuff going on in the world.

    Man gets arrested for selling a US military spy drone to feds on EVay. In London, a 7 year old won the bid to buy a harrier Jump jet for $113,000.

    A 17 year old in china sells a kidney to buy a IPad2

    And, don’t screw with old people.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43.....?GT1=43001

  114. GreenBeret7 June 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    drone to feds on ***EBay***

  115. yankeefeminista June 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    ID, Cold weather could certainly have contributed to low LD rates. Try playing on that field in April and then tell me otherwise. Also add in a changed batting stance, which generated more ground balls than the norm.

  116. Ghostwriter June 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Jerkface June 2nd, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    change his approach a little and we’ve seen some evidence lately that maybe he’s doing that

    He has walked a lot more in the past 2 weeks, I really like that. And he actually pulled a ball for power.
    =====================================

    Me too. I think that he may have turned the corner, and figured out a way to compete. There has been significant improvement over the last couple weeks: .286 .390 .347 .737. Obviously a small sample, but it could be the beginning of something.

  117. pft2 June 3rd, 2011 at 4:30 am

    Interesting numbers for Jeter.

    Innings 1-3, 337/406/408/810
    Innings 4-6, 246/329/344/673
    Innings 7-9, 177/221/226/446

    Runners On, 200/261/225/486
    Bases empty, 300/368/393/761

    Basically, early in the game with nobody on, Heter has been pretty effective. Later in the game, or with runners on, not so good. Not sure if this has anything to do with age or is just random, but there is a noticeable decline in the quality of his AB as the game goes on.

    IF/BUH-12 on pace for career high

    LD% 11.9%, career low (yet he still has a league average BABIP meaning he has been a bit lucky)

    GB% 66.5%, career high

    HR/FB 4.8%, career low

    WPA -0.90, on pace for career low

    SLG 332, career low

    I have to imagine going after 3000 hits is partly responsible for this, and perhaps the cooler weather. Be interesting to see if he can turn it around after the pressure is off and temperatures warm up, and he can relax.

    Defensively I feel Jeter is much better than last year, so there is that.

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