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Pregame notes: Yankees puzzled by Chamberlain’s injury

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Jun 09, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I’m going to have to make this pretty quick because I still have a ton of interview stuff to listen through and a lot of words to write for the newspaper. You already know the basics: A dye contrast MRI today showed that Joba Chamberlain has a torn ligament in his right elbow. Chamberlain said he broke down in tears soon after hearing the news.

It’s not certain that Chamberlain will have Tommy John surgery, but that seems unavoidable. The MRI results are being sent to Dr. James Andrews.

Chamberlain and the Yankees are perplexed. He never felt the ligament tear and his only symptom is some tightness after throwing. Chamberlain’s velocity has been good and he’s been able to throwing breaking balls, which usually cause pitchers considerable pain when they need Tommy John. Chamberlain also has no problem doing little things — opening a door, twisting off the cap of a water bottle — which usually cause some discomfort for Tommy John candidates.

“Joba must have a high pain threshold,” Joe Girardi said. “In the future, if he was to say something, you would have to say it might be worse than he is leading on. I’m watching him do things today, things that are supposed to bother a guy that needs Tommy John. It’s not bothering him at all. The lesson to be learned: The body’s an interesting thing.”

Chamberlain showed up heavier than usual in spring training, but his arm was never an issue, and both Girardi and Brian Cashman said they don’t believe Chamberlain’s offseason conditioning is to blame for the current problem. He’s pitched well this season, but the pitching seems to have cost him his elbow.

Cashman said no trade market has emerged for a reliever — “Not to my knowledge,” he said — and while the Yankees will look into the organization for potential help, Cashman said Andrew Brackman, Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos are not options. Brackman’s not pitching well enough, and Betances and Banuelos aren’t ready.

Here’s Girardi.

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UPDATE, 6:40 p.m.: No first-pitch time announced, but the Yankees and Red Sox will start in a delay.

• Phil Hughes pitched two innings in extended spring training today. Because it was in a game, the Yankees had a radar gun on him and Hughes was 90-92 with his fastball. That seems pretty encouraging for a guy at this stage of his rehab. “A lot of 92s,” Girardi said.

• Hughes will start in the Gulf Coast League on Tuesday.

• Russell Martin had an MRI that showed no structural damage in his back. “He’s slightly improved from yesterday,” Girardi said. “But not enough to go.” Martin said he felt bad this morning, but his back has felt better as the day has progressed. He wouldn’t be surprised if he’s able to play tomorrow.

• Cashman revealed that the Yankees finally diagnosed Mark Prior with a hernia. He could be headed for surgery. Obviously he’s not an option to fill Chamberlain’s spot.

UPDATE, 8:43 p.m.: Nevermind, the Yankees just clarified to say that Prior was tested for a sports hernia but those tests came back negative. He’s out with an abdominal and groin strain.

• Speaking of relievers: Pedro Feliciano has begun playing catch, but Rafael Soriano has not. “We’re still a ways away,” Girardi said.

• Jorge Posada said everything went well with his son’s surgery. This was his son’s ninth surgery, and it’s supposed to be the last one. “But they said that the last time,” Posada said. Posada got home from the hospital around 9 p.m. and checked the score of the Yankees game, but he didn’t watch it because his son wanted Posada to lie in bed with him after the surgery, so Posada stayed there and fell asleep next to his little boy.

• Tarp is on the field. Looks like this game might not start on time.

RED SOX
Jacoby Ellsbury CF
Marco Scutaro 2B
Adrian Gonzalez 1B
Kevin Youkilis 3B
David Ortiz DH
Jed Lowrie SS
Carl Crawford LF
Mike Cameron RF
Jason Varitek C

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253 Responses to “Pregame notes: Yankees puzzled by Chamberlain’s injury”

  1. ac1 June 9th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    At least Whelan will get a shot soon.
    Then Norton???

  2. Betsy June 9th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Boy, hearing about Joba breaking down in tears is rough. For all the criticism we hurl towards the players, they are only human – not robots. Poor kid.

  3. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Joelsherman1 I heard #Yankees strongly leaning toward promoting Triple-A closer Kevin Whelan in next few days (1.67 ERA/18 svs for SWB)

    —————

    Strongly leaning?

    What are they twiddling their thumbs about?

  4. Erin June 9th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    but he didn’t watch it because his son wanted Posada to lay in bed with him after the surgery, so Posada stayed there and fell asleep next to his little boy.

    ********************

    awwww :)

    Glad everything went OK.

    Good news on Hughes and Martin

  5. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Norton is on DL , no?

    these injuries are getting ridiculous

    Maxwell, Norton, Prior, Feliciano, Sori, Joba, Phil, Chavez, etc etc etc etc etc

    nobody is going to feel sorry for the Yanks, that’s for sure.

    time for others to pick up the slack and get the job done.

  6. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Heres hoping the lineup gets tweaked in the twelfth hour and Monteros name is in there for Cervelli as the surprise guest. That would for sure fire up the troops.

  7. Nick in SF June 9th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Jorge sleeps while Yankees lose??

    More insubordination! :mad:

  8. austinmac June 9th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    SoS,

    Whileni have not been touting Montero’s promotion, your idea of a surprise infusion made me smile. Why the heck not?

  9. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Jorge sleeps while Yankees lose??

    More insubordination!

    —————–

    Posada pulling a Ken Griffey Jr??

  10. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    The Yankees did nothing wrong, injuries are a part of the game. Joba will be back and will still be relatively young.

    As far as Hughes is concerned, he’s a great talent that I fully expect to be a very good starter for the Yankees for years to come. Sore arm; tired arm; inflammation; whatever the case was, I think he’s on his way back.

  11. austinmac June 9th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    ..must proofread…

  12. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Are they affraid to start the mlb clock on these minor leaguers? Every top prospect is NOT READY so they say. But these retread minor league bench warmers are?

  13. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    The only thing I can think of is that Whelan’s not on the 40 man.

    But it’s a moot point because Joba’s going on the 60 day, freeing up a spot

  14. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    austinmac,
    For a second there I thought you were having trouble spelling Whelen. Maybe mixing Cervellis name with his.

  15. Nick in SF June 9th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Even worse, he was dreaming about playing cards in the clubhouse. :mad: :mad:

  16. Jerkface June 9th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Are they affraid to start the mlb clock on these minor leaguers? Every top prospect is NOT READY so they say. But these retread minor league bench warmers are?

    Basically a team like the yankees is scared to put legit prospects on the 40 man before they absolutely have to because its easier to drop nobodies for more nobodies or for trades or free agents. Put a good prospect on the 40 man and have to suffer as they get shuffled back and forth? Oh my heavens no!

  17. Chad Jennings June 9th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Yankees just officially announced that they’re expecting to start in a delay.

  18. Jerkface June 9th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Norton has some kind of shoulder problem, and was in the running for a call up before having to go on the DL. Feel like if he isn’t out for the rest of his life he’ll be up this year.

  19. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    As the Yankee injuries keep friggin piling up…. the Sox luck out BIG:

    A thorough examination of Dustin Pedroia’s right knee Thursday revealed only a bruised knee cap. Pedroia will avoid surgery and could return to the Red Sox starting lineup as early as Friday night.

  20. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    I didn’t see the earlier threads…

    did anyone have an opinion on that clown Ortiz’s comments?

  21. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    If the Yankees had called up Norton yesterday he never pitches last night and hurts his elbow!

    The Yankees strike again!!

  22. UnKnown June 9th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Fat Papis comments seem like someone on a roid rage to me. Shakes must be back as part of his daily consumption.

  23. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    LGY – man, you’re tough.

    They just found out something that was totally unexpected. You think they might want to talk to a few people, maybe think a little bit first? Do you know Whelan’s condition at this exact moment? Are you expecting Whelan to make it to the Stadium tonight?

  24. Frozen Rope June 9th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    who cares about joba. he was an overhyped bust.

    Im glad he’s done for the year and possibly forever. Don’t have to watch this fat tub poo poo around the mound anymore stinking up the joint for the Yankees.

    Hopefully this means his Yankee career is over and he can go somewhere else that can manage pitching a bit better than the nincompoops in this organization.

  25. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    BD,
    In due time my friend. Bostons dl office will be open for business after the all star break. By then we will have reinforcement and making plans for October yet again.

  26. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    SoS,

    I know most people don’t wish for injuries to opposing players, but if it happens, I sure won’t feel bad for the Sox.

    The Yanks certainly can’t afford any more major injuries.

  27. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Joe

    I don’t understand why Whelan wasn’t up yesterday instead Sanit or Marquez

  28. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    nice try Frozen Dope.

    hopefully the Yanks can jump out to a lead tonight so we can get rid of your kind.

  29. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Oh no! The Red Sox have been playing Dustin Pedroia when he needed surgery! How could they be so negligent! What a crummy organization!

  30. hardwired7 June 9th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    “Yankees just officially announced that they’re expecting to start in a delay.”

    Great. How does a mid-2012 start sound?

    Everyone might be healthy by then…

  31. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    odds Ortiz gets plunked tonight by CC?

    (if Ortiz plays against the lefty)

  32. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    That’s a good question, about yesterday’s moves. I wonder if they figured that Dave and Joba could hold the fort in tight games. Now, however, it’s a different calculation. They need someone for the higher risk situations.

    Personally, unless it was for roster flexibility reasons that I don’t know/understand, I don’t get why Marquez on the 25-man.

  33. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    “Yankees just officially announced that they’re expecting to start in a delay.”

    ========

    That would explain why they havnt called upon any of their minor league studs yet.

  34. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Jeez. It’s pouring outside.

    I just got blasted by rain without an umbrella.

  35. William Buckner June 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    This is a blessing to lose Sports Illustrated’s 3rd most overrated player (sarcasm)…

    Not sure I get the Yankees roster. Better pen options and at some point, Cervelli needs to go down. He’s a back up that can’t play defense or throw.

  36. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Joe,
    Joba was out of order last night.

  37. Doc June 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    If they dont know when this happened, I wonder if this is the cause of his velocity drop a few years back. Perhaps Tommy john will lead to his eventually return to the rotation? Cashman did say after all that he was “less physical” after his injury. Perhaps this is the cause

  38. m June 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Poor Joba. This is terrible news. :(

  39. Triple Short of a Cycle June 9th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Girardi on Francessa said he doesn’t believe in hitting players and doesn’t think its part of the game anymore? When did Torre start managing this team again?

  40. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    LGY – you mean the rain hit you with it’s bare fist? ;)

  41. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    D-Rob stay healthy.

  42. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    “I don’t get why Marquez on the 25-man.”

    ————

    that’s really the biggest question for me as well.

    they literally rushed the guy to the team as if he was a key contributor to the team. he was cut by the White Sox. It’s not like he was tearing the minors up like some of the Yanks own guys were at the time.

    I’ll obviously root for him to do well, but… it’s a little strange.

  43. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Any time now ESPN will come out with their headline story “Joba needs Tommy John from excessive fist pumps.”

  44. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    LGY –you mean the rain hit you with it’s bare fist?

    ——

    Feels like I got hit with the last Joba fist pump for a couple years :)

  45. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Triple,
    I posted this earlier today. Read #8 on the list.
    My Fathers Day or sooner wish list.

    1. Cut Cervelli
    2. Bench Gardner(over rated. never was a great hitter in the minors and if he cant steal bases, hes useless. Speed only kills if you know how to use it.)
    3. Bring up Montero or Romine.
    4. Bring up Whelan and do away with the jokers we have in the pen that wouldnt even be pitching for the Royals. Trade all of them to the Pirates for one of those weiner runners.
    5. Get Jeter out of the lead off position. Bat him 9th and see if he throws a fit.
    6. Get Long to do his job and have him straighten out Cano and Alex. Cant go far without them.
    7. Look to trade for Kerry Wood(someone mentioned it on the telecast last night.)
    8. Find Girardi balls and give it back to him. He looks like hes morphing into Torre.
    9. Get rid of Logan and find a lefty or righty in the minors that can throw strikes to lefties and get outs.
    10. Start a fight with the sox to rekindle the fire this team seems to be missing.

    Is this too much to ask for? Whos with me!!

  46. PacoDooley June 9th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    SoS – I like the list – don’t agree with every item, but nearly every item…

  47. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    “I still have a ton of interview stuff to listen through and a lot of words to write for the newspaper.”
    _____________
    You write for a newspaper?

    I thought you did this blog simply because you loved us….

    :-(

  48. Bronx Jeers June 9th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    And if the Yanks don’t want to fight the Sox…we’ll fight em!!!!

    Meet us under the banner you stinkin bunch of ugly freaks !!!! (remember, no weapons)

  49. Niblick June 9th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    SoS: you’re nuts.

  50. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    If Whelan doesn’t pitch in a close game tonight, he’ll be in NY tomorrow.

  51. Triple Short of a Cycle June 9th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    I think the best bet would be to look into getting Wood back in pinstripes. Bell would cost too much imo

  52. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    GB7,

    I have been pulling for Whelan since they traded for him (though obviously thought Humberto Sanchez would be in NY first.)

    Do you think his stuff will translate well to the majors?

  53. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    I’m confused. Someone said that Pedroia was taken out on a dirty slide? When it was actually a pre-existing condition? Oh, well.

    Would love a win tonight. Still tied in the loss column. So even though we’re tied with half the clubs in the win column, we still have one of the better records in the loss column.

    Players need to wake up and step up.

  54. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    “I think the best bet would be to look into getting Wood back in pinstripes.”

    ————

    doubtful but I suppose anything is possible. Wood made it $uper clear that he wanted to play for the Cubs this season.

  55. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    And to think the Yanks will be seeing Mr. Wood next weekend when they visit Wrigley….Maybe he’ll come back on their charter

  56. Triple Short of a Cycle June 9th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    But he said this at the beginning of the season. With the Cubs being out of it maybe he changes his mind

  57. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Off topic.
    My kids are out of school for the summer and I want them to learn some spanish. Anyone know a free/good online site where they can learn it? By the time theyre old enough to go out in the real world for work. It will be an absolute must in SoCal.

  58. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Maybe the Cubs will let Wood dictate his destination…

  59. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Maybe Kerry has had a change of heart being that his hometown Cubbies are like 12 games back thru the first 1/3 of the season

  60. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Triple,

    perhaps, I’m sure the Yanks would jump on the opportunity.

    I thought I read that Wood had a close relationship with the Cubs owners or front office and was even positioning himself for a role with the club after he retires though.

  61. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    SoS,

    Easy. Get a Spanish speaking nanny!

  62. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    “Maybe the Cubs will let Wood dictate his destination…”

    ———–

    if that’s the case, I think he stays in chicago.

  63. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
    GB7,

    I have been pulling for Whelan since they traded for him (though obviously thought Humberto Sanchez would be in NY first.)

    Do you think his stuff will translate well to the majors?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Dave, it should. he’s always had “the stuff”. Command and control is what he never had much of.

  64. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Pat,
    Heard some regulars are no longer hear because of hacking. I was in here one day when you were the culprit. Did that all get straightened out?

  65. Tyler June 9th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Great to hear that everything went well with Jorge’s son… Can’t imagine having a loved one (especially a child) go through 9 surgeries in that short of a time.

    I could not believe that Joba had that serious of an injury. That bullpen is in rough shape. Amazing how it went from deep to shallow so quickly. Soriano needs to get his head on straight and heal quickly… He’s definitely needed now.

  66. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    I’m still stunned by this news….hopefully they can make due until Soriano gets back and hopefully he comes back strong….they should be ok if that happens.

    This may be a dumb question….but how does an injury like this affect Joba’s service time and how will they determine what he’ll make next year? Do they still do arbitration and all that for injured players? I’m assuming that this year will count on his service time and next will probably as well seeing that he should be back sometime next year…..what if a player in his first 6 years misses an entire season?

  67. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Wood was willing to sign with the Yanks for 2/10 so who knows.

  68. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    SoS,

    Easy. Get a Spanish speaking nanny!

    ========

    mel,
    lol. I dont think my wife would go for it. I would get one that looks like the wife of that new show with Al Bundy(cant remember the name of it. Modern Family i think). The sad part is I was born in Venezuela was fluent till age 6 and forgot half of it. Sad.

  69. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Wood turned down #3-4 mil from the White sox over the winter to take a $1.5 mil deal with the Cubs. He also has a front office job waiting with the Cubs.

  70. G-C June 9th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Blake,

    Joba should be transferred to the 60 day DL in the next day or two.

    For as long as he’s on the 60 day DL, he won’t accumulate any service time.

    Hope that helps.

  71. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    thanks GB7.

    I figured that would be your response. i’m looking forward to his arrival, as the Yanks need someone to step up. why not him?

  72. ObscureSound.com June 9th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    yeah I’m pretty sure Wood would retire first before being traded to another team. both the Yankees and Red Sox offered him $3m more than the Cubs and he turned them down

  73. RhapsodyInBlue June 9th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Because we have Cervelli.

    swbyankeesTT Royals are calling up Moustakas. Jesus Montero now only member of BA’s 2011 top 10 prospects to play in AAA not get MLB call this season.

  74. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    yes….very happy to hear little jorge is ok and I hope this is in fact his last time going through this

  75. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Ah, the lovely Senorita Vergara. There’s a great Diet Pepsi commercial with her and Becks.

  76. Warning Track Power June 9th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    How hard is the rain falling?

  77. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    GC,

    thanks !

  78. ObscureSound.com June 9th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    a major injury to Joba seemed imminent with his role being in flux for so many years. I just thought it would be a few more years before surgery had to happen. a shame, as he wasn’t pitching terribly this year.

    they have pretty good relief depth with good arms like Ayala and Noesi, but they’re obviously going to have to trade for a lefty that’s somewhat effective. I’m guessing that they will package Romine and a DJ Mitchell-type pitching prospect for someone. everyone should be fair game apart from Montero, Betances, and Banuelos. another useful trade should be for an actual useful DH, like Vlad or Willingham. they don’t really need to make a HUGE splash (no need to give up any of the top 3 prospects for a Ted Lilly-type starter), just some decent fill-ins.

    you have to assume that Soriano will experience setback after setback and will pitch poorly or average when he gets back again anyways. still, Robertson is as good of setup man as anyone, so if Logan and Ayala can do well they’ll do fine.

    it’s just ironic that it’s the younger players that are getting hurt.

  79. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 9th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Not for nothing, I’d rather watch Montero throw balls into CF instead of Cervelli. At least Jesus would have an excuse (i.e. he’s a rookie).

  80. Triple Short of a Cycle June 9th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    would be nice if a Yankee took less money to stay with them for once. Only one I remember was Oneill

  81. Tyler June 9th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    I bought a Moustakas Northwest Arkansas Naturals t-shirt in KC last year… I might have to pull that one out of the closet tomorrow.

  82. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    “a major injury to Joba seemed imminent with his role being in flux for so many years.”

    ————–

    “imminent” yet “so many years” ?

    I’m not sure it works that way. His role has been relatively defined for some time now.

  83. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    blake,

    Joba would have to be optioned to the minors before being placed on the 60 day DL to stop his service clock.

  84. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Dave, Whelan is now 27 years old and perhaps it was his time for things to click in. One can hope. No idea how severe Norton’s injury is, but, for him, he must be frustrated. It’s like horne and Chris Garcia. All of the talent in the world and a big arm that won’t cooperate. Hopefully, it’s just a twinge.

  85. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    G-C

    You accumulate service time on the 60 day DL as long as you are on the major league roster.

    For example, Hughes’ service clock is progressing right now.

  86. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    lgy,

    how do they figure his salary for next year? same way as normal?

  87. AMS June 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Any ETA on when the game will start?
    It’s 1.30am here.
    Gotta decide between going to bed or staying awake to watch the game.

  88. ac1 June 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Whether we want it or not, i would not be surprised to see Liriano sooner than later, and some other moves as well.

  89. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    mel,
    Yep thats her!! Sofia. I watched 2 shows and couldnt keep my tongue and drool in my mouth. Thought it would be best to walk away from it before my wife makes me sleep with the cat.

  90. G-C June 9th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    LGY,

    Wow. Thanks for the clarification.

    The good thing is I guess Joba still has options left and can be optioned and then placed on the DL? As to not accumulate any service time?

  91. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    SoS…Can’t comment

  92. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    they just said its looking like a start time around 9

  93. AMS June 9th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    9? Hmm that will be 3am here.
    Don’t think ill be awake.

  94. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    Good story on the scout that brought Jeter to the Bronx. 5 other teams passed on him. Question is did they simply pass on him, or did Jeter make it clear he wouldn’t sign with them?

  95. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    AMS,

    just stay up long enough to see CC (hopefully) drill Papi in the ribs in the 2nd inning.

    then you can go to bed with a smile.

  96. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    blake,

    tbh, I’m not sure how the salary thing works. Jerkface probably knows.

  97. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
    mel,
    Yep thats her!! Sofia. I watched 2 shows and couldnt keep my tongue and drool in my mouth. Thought it would be best to walk away from it before my wife makes me sleep with the cat.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    That’s just begging for a smart ass remark, but, I just can’t.

  98. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Watching Jeter’s first hit from that link. It’s so grainy. Like man on the moon kind of grainy. :)

  99. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    LGY,

    thanks….I would guess that he’d still be an Arb 2 ?

  100. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Pat,
    Are we at least safer in here?

  101. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    And Tino was the 1B. Didn’t even give Jeter the time of day. They played the game right. ;)

  102. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    “Watching Jeter’s first hit from that link. It’s so grainy. Like man on the moon kind of grainy. ”

    HD TV is great….but I could do without the detailed sweat dripping off Youkalis’s face….

  103. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    blake,

    If he isn’t optioned to the minors first he would just progress through arb normally. If he is optioned to the minors first I am not sure what they have to pay him.

  104. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    SOS–

    A friend recently gave me Rosetta Stone so I could learn some new languages. I haven’t tried it yet, but supposedly it is a good starting course.

  105. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Montero is still out with eye infection

  106. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    LGY,

    interesting…..wonder if they’ll even consider rehabbing him as a starter. I highly doubt it but they’ll have time now if they want to.

  107. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    HD TV is great….but I could do without the detailed sweat dripping off Youkalis’s face….

    ————-

    Aceves was ridiculous last night. He was just dripping. I haven’t seen someone sweat like that since Patrick Ewing.

  108. Jacob Ruppert June 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Welcome back m. Where you been?

  109. Chad Jennings June 9th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Still no official start time for tonight’s game, but the Yankees just announced that they do expect to play tonight.

  110. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    GB7,
    If theres anyone in here that can kick the door wide open when cracked, it would be you. Thanks for holding back old friend. Speaking of old. Im going to rent true grit this weekend. Being that you went to the theatres for the John Wayne version and probably watched this new release. Wanted to get your opinion on it compared to the original.

  111. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    JR,

    Thanks. In and out. Mostly out. :)

  112. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    BOJO,
    I was trying to be cheap about it and not pay $300 bucks for rosetta. The key word was free. I might have to resort to that and give up my daily dose of M n M’s.

  113. ObscureSound.com June 9th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    there should be a window between 8 and 11. why not try for that? playing conditions currently seem adequate.

  114. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    SoS, just from the movie clips I’ve seen, “True grit” is just a cheap knock-off of the original. Hard to top John Wayne as a western character.

  115. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Costas said they were expected to take the tarp off at 8:30 and play at 9

  116. RhapsodyInBlue June 9th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    They could Aceves head between innings to do shamwow commercials.

  117. m June 9th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    SoS,

    Get a free sample disk from RS. It’s basically the full version but with only a few lessons activated. Then you can get a feel for it (includes samples of all the languages).

    Otherwise, you can download a version online. Just ask any teenager to help you.

  118. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Really sad news on Joba.

    :(

  119. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    The new True Grit is just as bad as the original. Not a John Wayne fan.

  120. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    SOS–

    Have him get a job as a landscaper and work with illegal immigrants. They’ll teach him the basics.

  121. blake June 9th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    “The new True Grit is just as bad as the original. Not a John Wayne fan.”

    Yea he’s no Zac Efron

  122. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    ““The new True Grit is just as bad as the original. Not a John Wayne fan.”

    Yea he’s no Zac Efron”

    ———–

    :)

  123. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    m June 9th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
    SoS,

    Get a free sample disk from RS. It’s basically the full version but with only a few lessons activated. Then you can get a feel for it (includes samples of all the languages).

    Otherwise, you can download a version online. Just ask any teenager to help you.
    ___
    Yeah–several torrent sites have the full version up that enable you to download a pirated version…your call if you wish to do that or not.

  124. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Thanks mel. Not a bad idea Bojo as long as the wife doesnt get to pick the landscaper they will work under.

  125. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    RIP Jim Northrop. You broke a lot of Cardinal hearts in the ’68 WS. A very good outfielder and a fine hitter, and all around nice guy. He was 71.

  126. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    John Wayne’s real name?

    Marion Morrison

  127. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Zac was in Firefly. Points for that.

  128. Yogi Mantle June 9th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Thinking about this latest injury for Joba, it makes me wonder about his problems when he was starting and if the injury he had then was worse than was thought.

    I know I have a high tolerance for pain. I hiked 100 miles with multiple broken bones in my feet, and while I felt some discomfort, I really had no idea till weeks after the hiking and my feet still felt discomfort that I had them checked.

    Joba could have become more and more ineffective during his starting days due to an injury that was more significant than even he realized. While it affected his performance, it just might not have registered that the problem was due to working around the pain and injury.

  129. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Upon reflection, this injury could be the best possible thing for Joba’s career. It comes at a point where FO was pigeon-holing him as a set up reliever. Instead, he gets to put to bed the injury issue, build himself back up, and perhaps get a second chance at starting in the Yankee organization.

  130. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    “Zac was in Firefly. Points for that.”

    ———–

    true – too bad there weren’t more episodes…

  131. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Real pity about Maxwell. he had a lot of strikeouts, but, the average was climbing, the power and run production was outstanding. Add in the speed and sensational outfield play.. It was a home run catch that he got hurt on. going high over the fense and coming down on the top of the wall, His arm hit the top, right under his armpit.

  132. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    One of my favorite shows ever.

    Jayne: “Ten percent of nuthin’ is…let me do the math here…nuthin’ into nuthin’…carry the nuthin’…”

  133. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Wasn’t there some rumors that John Wayne basically avoided military service, but basically pretended to be a true American? Always seemed like a hypocrite to me. I didn’t care for him much.

  134. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    GB,
    Any idea how long Maxwell will be out for?

  135. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Did WCYF and Bojo just agree on something ? Their dislike of John Wayne…..moment in history :)

  136. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Too bad about Jim Northrup. A very good OFer. I recall that team with Mickey Stanley moving to SS and also Tom Tresh joining them…

  137. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    He happens to be right on this one. He bailed on WWII because he had kids.

  138. Gary June 9th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Yanks have more injury holes to plug than the normal NFL team.

  139. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    “He happens to be right on this one. He bailed on WWII because he had kids.”

    hey it’s a start….. friendship has sprung.

  140. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
    He happens to be right on this one. He bailed on WWII because he had kids.
    ________
    I heard it was even more …cowardly…but no need to discuss here.

  141. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    This is all one needs to know about Mr. Wayne IMO:

    “I believe in white supremacy until blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.”

  142. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Jim Northrop? My goodness. Another part of my youth.

    I remember that triple, over the head of Curt Flood…..Curt Flood, the best CF in the National League, misjudging a fly ball right at him, and the Cards lost that game. Only in baseball……That was a great World Series. Bob Gibson, Mickey Lolich, Lou Brock vs. Bill Freehan……. And Al Kaline. One of the greatest hitters in the game. He never played a game in the minor leagues, came straight out of high school.

  143. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    “He happens to be right on this one. He bailed on WWII because he had kids.”

    hey it’s a start….. friendship has sprung.
    ___________
    Can you send me some of what you are smoking?

  144. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Bob Gibson versus Norm Cash…what a match up

  145. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    “Can you send me some of what you are smoking?”

    I got it from MTU….

  146. Chad Jennings June 9th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Still no update on a first pitch, but the rumor up here is that it could be a while. Maybe as much as another hour. Again, that’s just a rumor. No clue whether it’s true.

  147. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
    “Can you send me some of what you are smoking?”

    I got it from MTU….
    _______________
    I was wondering if you were sampling that nitrous oxide a little too much….

  148. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    “I was wondering if you were sampling that nitrous oxide a little too much….”

    nah….that’s frowned upon

  149. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    HBO has a documentary on the ’68 Tigers called A City on Fire.

    I recommend it.

  150. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    “I was wondering if you were sampling that nitrous oxide a little too much….”

    nah….that’s frowned upon
    ___________
    I thought it had the opposite effect!

  151. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    SoS, Maxwell is out for the year with a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder.

  152. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Gallardo is pretty nasty

  153. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Blake-

    Is there some news that we are trying to get Kerry Wood to replace Joba ?

  154. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    MTU,

    not that I’m aware of…..just speculation I think.

  155. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    2 years ago, the Mets were crippled by injuries…last year it was the Red Sox…I wonder if this year could be the year the Yankees’ chances are hurt by the bug….hope not.

    It takes a strong 40 man roster to play through the season, which Minaya never understood and Cashman does, but even our depth players are getting injured.

  156. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    GB-

    More freakin’ bad news.

    :(

    At least Martin is OK.

    And it appears as though Hughes is on the road to recovery.

  157. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Too bad for Maxwell…was really intrigued about how he adopted ARod’s approach to his natural abilities.

  158. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Hughes and Soriano could be as good as 2 big trade moves potentially….we’ll see.

  159. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Doesn’t Kerry Woods have control over trades at this point in his career. I don’t think he would approve a trade to NYC as he really wants to play in Chicago…

  160. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Blake-

    If Hughes stays healthy he can be a real difference maker in the 2nd half.

    Same with Soriano.

    I liked your AM to do list. Can we go with that ?

  161. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    BoJo……Memory tells me that The Bombers were devesated with injuries in 2008…..Lot of key players went down and down for the count

  162. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Bigger surprise right now the Diamondbacks or Indians?

  163. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    MTU,

    Hopefully they’ll try some of it…..whether or not other teams cooperate is another thing. The in house stuff though they should do pretty soon

  164. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Pat M.-

    This BP sure has not panned out the way we hoped.

    I thought the backend of games would be more secure than Ft. Knox.

    Maybe in the 2nd half ?

    :)

  165. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    “Bigger surprise right now the Diamondbacks or Indians?”

    push. I think the Dbacks can hang around longer though because of their division. The Indians are headed for the middle of the pack in the central….I think the Tigers and White Sox both finish higher than them.

  166. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    I wonder what excuse some of you have for “bailing” on VN, Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicts.

  167. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Yes Blake. I think some of that is coming.

  168. Yankee Trader June 9th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Blake-

    N2O- Are you a Dentist, Anesthesiologist?

  169. m June 9th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Indians.

    Yesterday, I was “meh, we’ll see Hughes when we see him.”

    Now, I’m much more interested in what’s going on and how he looks.

    Some interesting convos today about Hughes’ role when he comes back.

    How Nova does over his next few starts might factor into the decision making process. But I would NOT indict the Yankeees if they made Hughes the setup guy.

    I care not for Soriano at this point, and until he’s back and throwing bullets then he doesn’t exist in my mind.

  170. Yankee Trader June 9th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Bigger surprise-Mariners!

  171. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Trader,

    1st one…..at least that’s what they tell me

  172. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    I wonder what excuse some of you have for “bailing” on VN, Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicts.

    *******

    Please.

  173. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    “Bigger surprise-Mariners!”

    true….I seriously thought they’d be epically bad…..which is why I also thought there was an outside shot they’d trade Felix

  174. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    What hurt the yanks in ’08 was losing Posada and Pettitte pitching the last half of the year with a bum arm.

  175. m June 9th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I’m more of an Eastwood person. But that’s a generational thing, I suppose.

    I really embarrassed myself on the LAT Lakers site one time. One of the K brothers who run the blog had a full post on what a great American Mohammad Ali is. I kinda sorta brought up the conscientious objection thing, and a whole firestorm ensued.

    I still stand by my opinion on that particular thing. But I learned one thing. There are a lot of people who idolize Ali.

  176. Yankee Trader June 9th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Blake-

    Are you still on paternity leave? How do you get the time to post all day? :)

  177. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I guess I’d lean towards to Indians. They are leading the central without Choo or Carmona giving them anything.

  178. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
    BoJo……Memory tells me that The Bombers were devesated with injuries in 2008…..Lot of key players went down and down for the count
    ____________
    IIRC, Posada was the worst loss…leadership was absent according to what I recall players saying.

    It happens….

  179. Tom in N.J. June 9th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    The Pirates have a .500 record.

    That in itself may be the biggest surprise.

    Andrew McCutchen may have overtaken Choo as the most underrated player in baseball.

  180. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Choo is an interesting personality. apparently he is suffering some depression from the embarrassment of his drunk driving episode. He feels he let his country down, his fans down, and his team mates down. I admire his character.l

  181. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    My9 is suggesting that the rain will pass about 9:30. If so, then first pitch about 10. Tomorrow will be a rough day.

  182. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Trader,

    I have a lot of breaks between victims and its one of the perks of being the boss ;)

  183. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    I suppose after that it would b e inappropriate to say “This Buds for you Mr Choo.”

  184. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    I wonder if Burnett was home grown if we would not be giving him the benefit of the doubt? Are we too bias for our own? Prospect huggers? The beginning of April people hear were saying that Nova had the stuff to surpass Hughes and be a 2/3 pitcher. Now some of us including myself think his job is in jeopardy and hes a bad start away from losing his role. We thought Hughes was the next coming of Pettitte. Being a #1 started soon enough for the next decade and Joba being the next MO. Kennedy was the step child because of attitude and not enough fastball. Ajax was the next Hunter. Still havnt seen the power come. Tabata to my understanding isnt representing the Pirates in the all star game. Just saying. Are we blind for our own? If so, are other fans as well?

  185. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    m-

    good to see you around.

    I missed the discusion about Hughes earlier.

    Were people discussing the merits of his going to the pen vs. starting if healthy ?

  186. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Waybe not only had kids, but was 35 when PH was attacked and had a bad back from playing football. Could he have gotten in? Probably, but, he did do some work for Wild Bill Donovan and tried to get hooked up with John Ford’s combat camera crew. Should DiMaggio be hammered for sitting out the war as an army ball player, or ted williams for sitting it out at a marine base in Florida?

  187. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    MTU….I was in favor of the Soriano signing because it was a two fold positive…Depth and it would keep Mariano fresh…..Now both of those bullet points are gone…..BoJo, Posada and Matsui basically stalled out the Yanks offense….As for the staff, I think only Mussina actually remained in good health all season…20 wins …..

  188. Yankee Trader June 9th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    GB7-

    I asked this earlier in the day. George Steinbrenner wanted to sign David Ortiz after he was released by the Twins in 2003. Since the team had signed Jason Giambi, he was talked out of it. Had the Yanks signed Ortiz and not Giambi, or with Giambi, would the Yankees have won more pennants and appeared in more WS, especially the one in 2004?

  189. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    Trader,

    I have a lot of breaks between victims and its one of the perks of being the boss
    ________
    How has business been in this down economy for your profession?

  190. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Bojo-

    Blake offers his patients LOT’s of free candy.

    His favorite Holiday is Halloween.

    He’s no dummy.

    :)

  191. Betsy June 9th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Cash already said (fortunately) that Hughes is staying a starter – that’s one bit of good news.

    I don’t know anything about John Wayne except that he was hilarious in I Love Lucy, lol. Lately I’ve been watching some Cary Grant movies and I’m totally in love, lol. Notorious is probably the most perfect movie I’ve ever seen – an incredible movie. I had already watched Bringing up Baby – the first time I’ve ever seen a movie with Katharine Hepburn ( you could bust your gut laughing, seriously)- and Philadelphia Story. Last night I watched His Girl Friday…….

  192. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Pat M.-

    My POV was the same as yours.

    Let’s hope Soriano fullfills his promise in the 2nd half.

    ;)

  193. SoS June 9th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    YT,
    We can never tell what Ortiz would have been. Maybe he wouldnt have found those great yummy shakes as a Yankee? Did Manny help him transform? We know that the whole red sox team was on b-12. If we got the thin Ortiz from Minny. I think he would have rode the bench and been cut. Who knows?

  194. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    SoS June 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Are we blind for our own? If so, are other fans as well?
    __________
    I think so…which is why I am not against trading prospects for major league talent like Gio Gonzales. When I was suggesting it would be something I would do this spring, many disagreed based on Montero’s potential, but I have had my fan heart broken before by the likes of Rueben Rivera, Jackson Melian, and many others. I don’t elevate the players to untouchable status until they do it in the pros for 2 years.

    Heck, I’d even move the Killer Bs for the right deal.

  195. Betsy June 9th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    I’m glad for the rain – I hate heat and humidity and days like today are just plain ugly.

  196. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    m June 9th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I still stand by my opinion on that particular thing. But I learned one thing. There are a lot of people who idolize Ali.

    **********

    What is not to idolize. Standing up for one’s deeply held beliefs and being willing to pay the price is about as American as one can get.

  197. MTU June 9th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Have a good rest of your evening all. I hope they get this game off and it’s a good one.

  198. blake June 9th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Bojo,

    Its slower for sure but not terrible….a lot depends on what type of practice you have. The more cosmetically and elective based practices are taking the biggest hits.

  199. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Trader, I’d have to say yeah, they would. Keep Martinez to play first and DH Ortiz. Even at Ortiz’ 20 homer, 80 RBI twins level, combined with Martinez’ bat and glove would have topped Giambi….especially after 2003. One thing is certain, boston would still be waiting.

  200. Yankee Trader June 9th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Heck, I’d even move the Killer Bs for the right deal.
    ——————————————

    Bojo- So would I, so lefty Banuelos for young lefty Kershaw and Betances for King Felix.
    Rotation solved! :)

  201. Chad Jennings June 9th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Still no word on a first pitch, but there’s a lot of lightning in the area, and that seems to be the biggest problem right now.

    Also, the Yankees just sent an email to clarify Cashman’s pregame comments about Mark Prior: Turns out Prior was tested for a sports hernia, but those tests were negative. He’s on the Triple-A DL with an abdominal strain and groin strain.

  202. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Bringing Up Baby was one of my favorites.

  203. G-C June 9th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    “What is not to idolize. Standing up for one’s deeply held beliefs and being willing to pay the price is about as American as one can get.”

    _____________________________________________

    Always seemed like a “convenient” religious conversion to me.

    Also, what price was he “willing to pay?” Certainly not the same price a lot of the kids who never came home did.

    I always considered Ali your quintessential run of the mill draft dodger, and never had any respect for him for that very reason.

  204. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Ali doesn’t believe in violence? Then goes into a ring and beats somebody’s brains out with his fists? Of course that makes sense.

  205. Betsy June 9th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Joe, I can see why. I read that Christopher Reeve based his Clark Kent on Grant’s character in “Baby”. My next few movies to watch are Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House, To Catch a Thief, North by Northwest and Charade. I’ve probably seen more movies in the last week or so than I’ve seen in the last 5 years

  206. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    George’s comments about wanting to sign Ortiz seemed like a bit of revisionist history at the time.

    I don’t buy it.

  207. Yankee Trader June 9th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I’m not getting into a political debate but as boxers go, I kinda liked Clay, Ali not so much!!!

  208. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Betances with 3 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks and 4 strikeouts

  209. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 9th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Weather.com says that it’s going to rain until 11pm. They can’t possibly be thinking about starting the game that late.

  210. m June 9th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    I just googled some Ali stuff. He said some pretty controversial things in the name of his beliefs. Quite radical.

  211. Ghostwriter June 9th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    G-C June 9th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    “What is not to idolize. Standing up for one’s deeply held beliefs and being willing to pay the price is about as American as one can get.”

    _____________________________________________

    Always seemed like a “convenient” religious conversion to me.

    Also, what price was he “willing to pay?” Certainly not the same price a lot of the kids who never came home did.

    I always considered Ali your quintessential run of the mill draft dodger, and never had any respect for him for that very reason.
    ===================================

    No, I think that Ali’s conversion likely was sincere and heartfelt. However, it’s pretty clear that he was wrong about a number of things at the time, with his position on military service being a rather prominent error in judgment. I don’t think that he was a coward, but I do think that the Nation of Islam had him pretty confused about a number of things. I would really love to know what he thinks about hat time in his life, what regrets he harbors, and what he would do differently if he had a chance…

  212. Abe Peteraham June 9th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Did I miss comments that Ortiz threw bat toward Kevin millar? I heard on radio and kids distracted me..

  213. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Vietnam was a very contentious era in this country’s history. Some consider those who went heroic, others consider those who didn’t go equally heroic. Tough times.

    Ali refused to go based on his religious beliefs and opposition to the Vietnam War. He also didn’t believe that he should fight for a country that denied him equal rights.

    I admire him greatly for standing up for what he believed.

  214. m June 9th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Sorry, didn’t mean to start another firestorm!

    Can this game start soon? Please?!

  215. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Warren through 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 3 strikeouts. 39 pitches, 28 strikes

  216. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Manny B pitching like a Blue Chip who wants a phone call…..

  217. Pat M. June 9th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Just realized my error

  218. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    We may see Warren in the Bronx this year. Looks like a better chance of that than Betances.

    I was hoping that Brackman would be doing better at this point, and therefore be an option for the pen (as some of us hoped). GB – my understanding is that he’s still having trouble repeating his delivery, no?

  219. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Interesting note on the Charleston game. Segedin in left field instead of 3rd base and JR Murphy is playing 3rd base and has made three outstanding defensive plays.

  220. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    I like when Betances has a lot more K’s than walks.

  221. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    GB,

    have you seen Harper play live in the Sally yet?

  222. umbrelladoc June 9th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    This injury is especially difficult, because the way this Yankee team is constructed, was to have 4 top setup men, to make up for a dodgy rotation. Other than CC, you are happy to get 6 good innings out of the rest. Even with a strong farm system, I would hesitate to make huge moves – the team has too many needs. It would not be the end of the world to be in a semi-rebuild (for the Yankees) mode. Trading for relievers is usually a poor value proposition – Tampa has shown that you can probably have a better chance trying to catch lightning in a bottle.

    Here are my bullpen ideas – If/When Hughes comes back – move Nova to bullpen – even if he wasn’t fantastic last year, I think he’s has potential there because he does so much better the first time through the order – worst case he a more capable long man. If Nova is starting well, I’d think about moving Hughes back to the pen – right now that’s more of a need. I’d bring back up Noesi and let him have a hand at meaningful innings. I’m hoping one of Feliciano, Soriano or Marte can contribute this year. Consider a trade for K-rod. Since he won’t be closing he won’t vest for next year. We could get him for a low level prospect if we take the whole salary.

  223. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Joe,

    Brackman has been a disappointment this year….the hope was that he might be ready to help in the 2nd half…..it’s not looking like that’s happening.

  224. Ghostwriter June 9th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    It’s hard to imagine an equivalence between Ali and somebody like James Stockdale, but opinions vary.

  225. Nick in SF June 9th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    The teams that’s closest to still being on west coast time should prevail tonight.

    Advantage: Yankees.

  226. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Cone and Costas has potential

  227. m June 9th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    As far as athletes go, Pat Tillman could be considered a great American, no?

  228. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Joe,

    Brackman almost always has the one blow-up inning where everything goes. Never a certain inning. his last start was 3 perfect innings to start the game with only 21 pitches. Through 5 innings, 1 hit, 1 walk a 5 strikeouts. His 6th inning, 4 hits and 5 walks. It’s easier for him to go one, maybe 2 innings and out in relief. That’s when everything came together for him in ’09…in the bullpen.

    He’s just raw. Not only that, but, lately the fastball is back in the low 90s.

  229. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House, To Catch a Thief, North by Northwest and Charade
    ___________
    Great movies all…Grant was always fun to watch.

  230. Deathroe June 9th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Just wondering when this game will start…came to lohud for some info. Nothing useful though. I miss the days of Pete Abe.

  231. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    “As far as athletes go, Pat Tillman could be considered a great American, no?”

    yes

  232. West Coast Yankee Fan June 9th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    There are those who consider Stockdale’s involvement in the Gulf of Tonkin and his subsequent reports (which were not true) to be worthy of criticism.

  233. BD (Boston Dave) June 9th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    “Just wondering when this game will start…came to lohud for some info. Nothing useful though. I miss the days of Pete Abe.”

    ———–

    Chad has posted all the info he has (within the comments on this thread)

  234. Jackson June 9th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    m June 9th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
    As far as athletes go, Pat Tillman could be considered a great American, no?

    -

    Without question

  235. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    White Sox blasting Cahill….boy those teams are heading in opposite directions

  236. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Blake, saw Harper live in one game and about 8 games on MiLB-TV. He’s the goods. He’s rude to the fans from what I saw. Somebody’s gonna take him down if he doesn’t clean it up…and fast. Reminds me of a young Kirk Gibson…or for the older folks, Rich Reichardt. That kind of talent.

  237. BoJo June 9th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Good night all…can’t imagine they would start a game after 11PM…

  238. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Go Mavs!

  239. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Just wondering when this game will start…came to lohud for some info. Nothing useful though. I miss the days of Pete Abe

    ——-

    You realize Pete Abe is covering this game for the Globe and has posted nothing more than Chad has?

  240. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    GB,

    if A ballers can’t humble him you better believe big leaguers will…..this game gets everybody at some point. Sounds like a kid that’s just never been challeged….I’m gonna try and get to see him before he gets promoted…

  241. Bronx Jeers June 9th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    I wonder what excuse some of you have for “bailing” on VN, Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicts.

    ————————————————–

    I tried to join the Navy. They didn’t want me or my THC tainted urine.

  242. Chad Jennings June 9th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Tarp is coming off the field.

  243. Chad Jennings June 9th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Hang on, I’ll go ask Pete if he knows what time first pitch will be.

  244. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    There you go….live updating by Chad

  245. blake June 9th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    “Hang on, I’ll go ask Pete if he knows what time first pitch will be.”

    zing

  246. RhapsodyInBlue June 9th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Not exactly:

    PeteAbe Pete Abraham
    By “approaching storm” I assume the Yankees mean the weather and not the well-funded decline of Jeter and A-Rod
    7 minutes ago

  247. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    A number of folks thought the pen might be the place for Brackman. Though, the Yanks will likely give him every chance to develop as a starter; just my guess.

  248. LGY June 9th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    :arrow:

  249. Nilsson June 9th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Not sure why Cashman is absolutely resolute in regards to Brackman and the bullpen.

    Daniel Bard couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn as a starting prospect but was completely transformed when converted to the bullpen. Just give it a thought, Cashman.

  250. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    betances through 5 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk 7 strikeouts

  251. Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    As HL Mencken once wrote, “The function of the press is comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable.” Pete seems to be a modern day practitioner of that art. ;)

  252. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Blake if his own team mates and manager won’t, a pitcher with nothing to lose will.

  253. GreenBeret7 June 9th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Joe from Long Island June 9th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    As HL Mencken once wrote, “The function of the press is comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable.” Pete seems to be a modern day practitioner of that art.

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    Love that book and movie. Nobody as good as Tracy in those movies. “Inherit the Wind”

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