Postgame notes: Colon headed for tests, Yanks believe they are targets
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Jun 11, 2011 
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As expected, two issues dominated the postgame: Bartolo Colon and the Yankees hitters as human pinatas.
First, Colon. He left Yankee Stadium and was headed to New York Presbyterian hospital for an MRI on his left hamstring. Joe Girardi said he probably wouldn’t know more until tomorrow, but depending on what the tests show, it seems likely that Colon is going to miss some time. In fact, GM Brian Cashman told the YES Network’s Jack Curry that it “looks like” Colon will go on the DL.
What does that mean for the rotation? Hector Noesi is certainly a possibility, though he’s hardly a lock. The Yankees like what Adam Warren (complete-game allowing 1 ER in last start) and D.J. Mitchell (5 ER in last 19 IP) have done recently in Scranton, and David Phelps (6 ER in last 23 IP) is on the radar, too. Colon’s next turn is scheduled for Thursday against the Rangers, so whoever gets the gig won’t have an easy assignment.
The frustrating part for the Yankees is that Colon has been every bit an ace this season. His two-seam fastball was wicked today and Alex Rodriguez said “lefties have no chance” against him. “He’s throwing like a legitimate No.1 starter, like when he won the Cy Young in 2005,” A-Rod said.
Mark Teixeira was closest to Colon as he ran over to the cover first base on Shin-soo Choo’s grounder in the seventh, and Teixeira said he was surprised to look up after fielding the ball and see Colon still far from the bag. “I knew it wasn’t good,” Teixeira said. Turns out, it wasn’t.
• As for the circumstances surrounding Mitch Talbot’s ejection for hitting A-Rod in the sixth, there were strong opinions on both sides. Talbot and Indians manager Manny Acta were shocked; Talbot claimed he slipped (not altogether unreasonable considering it was raining) and, in a 2-0 game where he’s pitching well, had no reason to hit A-Rod on purpose. “I thought it was a little ridiculous,” Talbot told reporters. “Honestly, I got tossed because Teixeira got hit yesterday.”
Plate ump Dan Iassogna disagreed. He told a pool reporter that, “after the situation we had last night, and Alex hit a big home run last night and hit another home run today, and Curtis Granderson hit a home run last night and another one today, (Talbot) threw the pitch directly at him.” So, Iassogna tossed him.
The Yankees, not surprisingly, agreed with the decision. Both Girardi and Rodriguez used the word “fishy” to describe what went on, and Teixeira sarcastically called the plunking a “crazy coincidence.”
Rodriguez went as far as drawing a correlation between the number of home runs the Yankees hit and how often they’re getting hit by pitches. “Guys are going deep,” A-Rod said, and then pitchers are shaking off the catcher “two or three times to get to the fastball in.”
Girardi was blunter. “I’m tired of it,” he said. “Our guys get hit entirely too much. We’re a club that hits home runs and people don’t like that too much.”
Later, Girardi added, “I don’t like it. But we’ll protect our own.”
• In terms of his health, A-Rod said the pitch hit him on the “IT band” – I had to look it up, apparently it’s a group of fibers that runs along the thigh – but that he’ll “be ready to roll” tomorrow. Did A-Rod think the pitch was on purpose? “I’m not sure if it was intentional but it hurt like hell,” he said.
• Russell Martin came through his work OK and said “the plan is to be ready for tomorrow.”
• Even though everyone else may be used to Dave Robertson getting out of jams like the one he escaped in the eighth, Robertson still finds them to be “very stressful.
“A balk, two hits – it was a tough outing,” he said. “I just had to fight through it.”
• Girardi wasn’t upset with Brett Gardner after the left fielder was thrown out on the bases twice today. “He’s being aggressive,” Girardi said. “I don’t have a problem. I want him to be aggressive.”
jorge is the worse baserunner I have ever seen. not just slow but stupid….
the yanks should have had 3 more runs if they new how to run the bases effectively….
colon has easily been there 2nd best starter…..
they will survive his injury, hopefully it is minor.
btw fatboy colon if you lost 40 lbs you would not get injured as much!!!!!!!!
NJ sketch,
I was pretty confident that everyone thought it was mild. That’s why I wasn’t too upset. We’ll see I guess though!
On another note, I hope Girardi took note of what Boone Logan did with a full clean inning today!
No joke, this team is going to need this guy in Joba’s absence. He has the stuff to pitch effectively at this level and showed it last year. He’s a very streaky type guy and I think once he gets a couple of clean outings under his belt and gets that confidence going, he has a chance to get on an extended role and emerge as the seventh inning guy for the time being.
As per my last post, Logan needs to have his slider working or lefties will kill him. Here’s hoping.
Gardner has the speed…I wish he had a better first base coach (like Davey Lopes) to guide him….
Nice bunt today by him…looks like he finally may be picking up that skill again.
Kudos to Iassogna for his explanation. It shows that the umps are in tune with what is going on between the lines.
There’s a narrative that is being played out here, and these guys aren’t turning a blind eye to it.
Idiot. Yeah, because only fat guys ever suffer hamstring pulls.
Take your head out of your ass.
Yes the Yankees hit home runs but they don’t flaunt it and pose like Ortiz and a lot of other hitters do(Cano might be an exception at times).
Thanks, Sam. Good stuff, especially on the HBP/Yanks targets theme.
If Girardi and co. are tired of it, then there are only two options:
Stop hitting HRs
Start retaliating
Ignoring it won’t make anyone stop either. It will only encourage them because they know they can get away with it.
Igawa to Scranton.
Montero in a package for Garza? Um, no. Garza isn’t good enough.
You guys don’t get it. We have no premium young bat in the system near ready. We do have premium pitching a year or so away. We have an aging team. Montero is much more critical to future success than getting some arm to get us through 2011.
I don’t understand why that isn’t obvious to some.
I’m all on board for promoting Mitchell. While they’re at it, he can bring his catcher with him.
“benshpigel A-Rod praised Cashman for signing Colon. Called it “the sign of the century.” Which makes his own deal…?”
Millenium.
“Start retaliating”
horses for courses…
aside from CC, and maybe A.J., the Yanks don’t currently have the type of pitchers capable of instilling any sense of fear in the opposition.
stuart a: you’ve posted a lot of stupid things, but I think you’re really beginning to hit your stride now.
I’m confused. So Noesi comes back and Sanit goes to DL…. Ok.
Saying unlikely Noesi will start?
If Colon goes on the DL, calling back Dickerson?
So where is the move for someone to start in Colon’s place?
Girardi wasn’t upset with Brett Gardner after the left fielder was thrown out on the bases twice today. “He’s being aggressive,” Girardi said. “I don’t have a problem. I want him to be aggressive.”’
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Results don’t count I guess in Girardi’s world. Only intent.
btw fatboy colon if you lost 40 lbs you would not get injured as much!!!!!!!!
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Because skinny people never pull their hamstrings?
Nova has no trouble with taking care of business.
“aside from CC, and maybe A.J., the Yanks don’t currently have the type of pitchers capable of instilling any sense of fear in the opposition.”
Sad but true. Joba used to instill fear in the opposition and probably is still capable of it. Nova did it in his very first start.
Hughes is useless when it comes to that type of stuff though, unfortunately.
The AAA starter will replace Colon.
guiseppie franco i did not say only fat guys injure there hamstrings. but if you are stupid enought to think a guy 60 + pounds overweight is not more susceptible to injuries you are a moron.
colon is fat plain and simple and to think that has no affect on his health and injuries is moronic……….
the strain on his knees, back and other joints alone by being overweight increases his injury risk…………..
There is no absolute connection, but it’s certainly possible that Colon being seriously overweight could contribute to an injury. It’s always better to be in shape. This was one of the concerns about Colon; whether or not an oft-injured, overweight, aging pitcher could make it through a season.
yankeefeminista June 11th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
The AAA starter will replace Colon.
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And no one knows if they will be good or busts.
the fools interesting trading montero for middling stuff are the same fools that were all for shipping out melancon after a few hiccups or kennedy for a 2 time loser vasquez and trading of other young guys for older declining players.
they traded ajax but they got a 28 year old granderson…………
stuart – what you theorize makes perfect sense.
Stuart Little pulled a brain muscle about 20 years ago and it hasn’t healed yet. Must be something in the water in California. We have two such things from Cali wizards saying that.
Agreed, GB. Nova won’t back down, and he has enough heat to get his point across.
it is not absolute fat guys get hurt more just increases the odds significantly.
more flexibilty players(thinner and in shape) I bet get injured at a much lower rate then overweight players in all sports…………
I feel Noesi has earned this spot to replace Colon.
Are we going to turn another good starter into a bullpen guy like they did to Joba?
From what we have seen from Noesi so far, he is the best choice to start.
They can figure the relief out.
yep greenberet 7 you dope…
fat guys do not get hurt anymore then in shape guys, my bad…
you are some scholar… finish high school?
Better tell John McDonald and Orlando Hudson to lose weight so they don’t pull a muscle, then. There’s two fat slobs for you. Ooops. They’re on the DL with pulled hamstrings.
Right GB – you are a model of stability and logic.
stuart don’t allow a bunch of whining malcontents whose agenda is only to mix it up deter you. There is not an intelligent medical or fitness professional that would suggest overweight, aging athlete’s don’t have a higher risk of injury.
good one greenberet you moron. way to prove me wrong name 2 in shape guys who get hurt and say I showed you.
really you cannot be this stupid can you?
again 1 more time slow so maybe your pea brain can comprehend things. being in shape reduces the probability of getting injured, it does not eliminate it all together.
anecdotal information proves nothing. 1 person wins the lotttery today, does that prove you will win it? no . Of course you have a chance to win the lottery if you buy a ticket but the probability is very very low.
got it MORON.
since being in shape does not affect injury probability at all all sports teams should eliminate trainers, off season programs and any task that helps players get in better swhape because the benefit is not worth the cost just ask greenberet7 the scholar….
enjoy the twinkies………
If Joe is so tired of this stuff, then maybe he ought to light a fire under his team. How about someone other than CC retaliating?
So where is the move for someone to start in Colon’s place?
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Colon’s replacement doesn’t need to be brought up til Thursday. Appears as though they’re bringing back Noesi to assume a more pivotal roll in the pen, then calling up Thursday’s starter later next week.
This blog has reached a new low in ignorance. Thanks stuart a.
Looks like according to Davidoff et al, Noesi will remain in the pen.
I know you might not understand this, but referring to a Yankee starter who has been a revelation as “fat boy” is tasteless, gratuitous, mean spirited, tacky, etc.
I’m a Yankee fan and I’m concerned about the guy. I don’t want to listen to gratuitous comments about the guy. Whether extra weight disposes him to a higher chance of injury or not.
This is a Yankee board. Stop making derogatory remarks about Yankee players’ physical characteristics.
Mell, just a guess but, looks like Noesi and one of the scranton starters or Flores. Carlyle is fast pitching himself off of the 40 man roster.
“If Joe is so tired of this stuff, then maybe he ought to light a fire under his team. How about someone other than CC retaliating?”
– didn’t Joba retaliate a few times? Or am I thinking of his illicit love affair with Youkilis…
The two “fattest” pitchers in the rotation have also been the most successful this season and it’s not even close.
I don’t care what numbers are on the scale if they continue to perform at a high level.
YankeeFem, that leaves NYY a starter short for Texas. They could sure use a day off before then, huh?
colon has pitched great but he is fat. michael kay comments on the radio about it all the time. the guy is dominating in the majors and may be over 60 pounds overweight. Kay’s mentions Colon has a 40 + waist line…..
you think it never crossess Colons mind if he was more in shape he could have avoided some of the injuries he has had and had even a more productive career??
i will stop calling colon fat when he loses 40 pounds. the guy is 37 or 38, fat and still throws 95 mph, he is a freak(that is good ) so no need to counsel me on my language there…
Colon has been great and he is fat, to me those are 2 factual statements. May not like the truth but from my point of view those statements are true.
guiseppe franco, newsflash colon is going on the IR. Possibly because he is out of shape and it affected him straining his hamstring.
CC also lost 25 + pounds this offseason to reduce the strain on his knees and to try to lengthen his career for a reason.
Pitchers can also hold there weight more effectively then non pitchers especially in the AL.
Giuseppe Franco June 11th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
The two “fattest” pitchers in the rotation have also been the most successful this season and it’s not even close.
I don’t care what numbers are on the scale if they continue to perform at a high level.
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Overweight athletes performing at a high level has nothing to do with whether or not their chances of injury are higher or not. How many fat baseball players do you see, or hockey players, or soccer players, or bike racers, or basketball players. There is a reason athletes have to be in shape. To perform and to last. There are exceptions; but very, very few.
Who gives a fig what Michael Kay says on his radio show? Do people actually listen to that?
Listening to him during Yankee games is more than enough torture for the average Joe.
Cinny dropped a 7 run hammer on Lincecum. Add in 4 walks in 4 innings.
west coast yankee please no facts and logic.
this is a fact free and logic free zone.
being fat, out of shape, and slow has no negative effect on athletes. just ask the couch potatoes on this site……….
When did baseball come up with an Inactive Reserve list?
Where did this chicken little come from?
Colon will be fine. No need to panic yet. Hopefully he’ll miss just 1 start. Rotation has been improving, and hopefully Garcia will step it up a bit to be the warrior he is.
Time for fellas from minors to fill in the blanks in the pen.
Gardner has to be the least successful runner with his speed this season. Can someone hire Rickey Henderson please…
IR? Did the NFL lockout end? He’s done for the year?
Players suffer strained hamstrings all the time in this game and 90% of them aren’t fat by any stretch.
The weather and wet grass could have contributed to his injury as much as anything else.
stuart a – “fatboy” is derogatory. Why not give yourself a challenge. See if you can post without calling a player stupid or fat. Or any other name that isn’t constructively descriptive but just a gratuitous cheap shot.
Now, I’m out to see young Manny pitch.
Ciao.
Barkley? Puckett? Kruk? David Wells? Matt Stairs? Some guy named Babe Ruth? Smokey Burgess?
After the Texas series, the rest of June is all interleague games. If I’m Cashman, I take Jorge and put him on the 15-day DL with a phantom injury and bring up a bat from AAA for pinch hitting purposes.
From the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons.
Who gets sprains and strains?
“Professional and amateur athletes and the general public, as well, can sustain this injury. People at risk for the injury have a history of sprains and strains, are overweight, and are in poor physical condition.”
Go Manuelito! Enjoy the game, Prufrock.
So you’re gonna put Posada on the DL with a phantom injury when it appears he’s finally starting to turn things around at the plate?
@Ken Davidoff
Sounds like Noesi is more likely to pitch out of ‘pen. Mitchell, Phelps, Warren are candidates to replace Colon. #Yankees
Who in the minors that’s on the 40 man roster is a better choice as a DH/PH than Posada. Only 9 of those games are in NL parks?
More Davidoff
Hector Noesi will be back with #Yankees tomorrow. Was already en route to replace Amauri Sanit (right elbow).
GB, let’s see if the source is correct. An off day would definitely help. Also it is so unfortuitous that almost no one who is available on our 40 man is currently ready to pitch for us. Think about it, Brackman and Betances aren’t, the “other” Texeira is hurt, the AAAA type filler we don’t want to use, i.e, Carlyle, who I agree, they should drop, and I am guessing Ryan Pope though healthy and on the 40 man isn’t in the mix.
Crap. Just heard the news on Colon.
This is why it is important to keep a guy like Noesi ready to start. Injuries to any rotation are inevitable.
Fortunately it’s not an arm injury and the Yanks have the depth to cover for some injuries.
As long as no arm injuries no reason to get to worked up.
Regardless of Colon’s weight, he still throws over 100 pitches in the heat. I’d say he’s in shape. Your little Google search means exactly crap.
Well, with Sanit on the DL…a skinny guy, that leave another opening.
I wonder if the Yanks will make a starter decision on Noesi after Garcia’s start. Noesi has been outstanding in long relief and he gets heated up in a hurry.
Right GB7. The American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons opinion that professional athletes who are overweight are at greater risk for injury is nonsense right?
Are you really as stupid as you sound sometimes? Or are you just angry and bitter about life.
YankeeFem, I like Pope, but, not sure that I like him enough against Texas type teams…not yet. He’s a local kid here.
Surprising Noesi in the pen and not rotation.
Warren or Phelps pls.
Novody said that heavier athletes might not be more susceptible to muscle pulls, Daisy. Doesn’t mean that he’s out of shape. Do you even bother watching him move on ground balls. He’s agile and moves fast for a fat guy, huh.
Now, go call “Bobby”. You, him and stuart Little can go play with the whips and chains in his basement.
Still like Mitchell if one of the AAA kids gets the Texas start. He keeps the ball on the ground better.
GB, haven’t seen him but from what I have read, Pope sounds like he isn’t ready. I still would like to see DJ chosen to start if Noesi is in the pen. I think with Noesi they think he is more useful in MR, LR for our current purposes. Either way, I am fine with who they choose. But prefer it not be Phelps right now.
GB, agree 100% with sinker, Mitchell best choice for Texas.
Colon is overweight, that’s a fact. Athletes who are overweight are more susceptible to injuries, especially strains. That’s a fact.
Re the IT band: I’m a runner so I know all about it, since it’s an area that runners tend to hurt a lot. The reason Arod probably knows about it is that it connects, at one end, to the hip flexor (and at the other, to the knee).
I always find it interesting when people debate over whether Alex is hurt in his oblique, or his hip, or his quad, or his abs. Because really, while they’re obviously all different muscles, they really all connect together in a pretty small area.
I know that when I do my stretching after a run, I stretch my hip flexors as a way of keeping my IT bands loose. And when I had physical therapy for a while for IT band pain, the therapist addressed it by stretching my hips. It’s kind of fascinating how all this stuff links together, and Arod is, unfortunately, pretty familiar with pain in that area at this point.
ps, short for iliotibial, of course.
YankeeFem, Pope was out for a good while at the start of the season with a hamstring/groin, but, you’re right, he’s not close to ready.
If the Yankees are targets, they have only themselves to blame given the way they failed to act v. the RS. It’s really something that should put Girardi’s job in jeopardy because he has put his players at risk.
ARod needs to do yoga.
Good points, JMZ and if you favor one part of your body it is to the detriment of another.
Arod is fat and out of shape. Too many injuries.
Who called it that Sanit would go on the DL to be replaced by Noesi?
I like this move. Noesi’s more proven in the pen, and now one of the AAA guys gets a shot in the rotation.
I’m torn between watching the Scranton game and listening to the Trenton game.
I’m torn between dinner and…. Nah, I’ll have dinner.
Rich, you are right. I think Girardi was too passive when it came to the HBP’s in the Boston series. I think he now realizes error; however, unfortunately, a little too late.
GreenBeret7 June 11th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
I’m torn between watching the Scranton game and listening to the Trenton game.
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I know. I am also annoyed that attending that ridiculously rain-delayed Boston game on Thursday has taken me out of going to Trenton tonight. I was hoping for a rain out, so that I could attend tomorrow. Oh, well.
I come back from an exciting game at the Stadium, check in here to see what the discussion is on any number of important issues facing the team, and am read comments more suited for a schoolyard.
Good night.
Niblick says:
June 11, 2011 at 6:03 pm
This blog has reached a new low in ignorance. Thanks stuart a.
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Methinks you seriously underestimate the inabilities of west coast/vineyard/stuart/et al.
yankeefeminista
It’s beyond comprehension (at least mine) that a guy who has been in the game as long as he has took so long to have this seemingly obvious revelation. It makes me very suspect about his judgment.
Joe from Long Island June 11th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
I come back from an exciting game at the Stadium, check in here to see what the discussion is on any number of important issues facing the team, and am read comments more suited for a schoolyard.
Good night.
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Hi Joe, hope you enjoyed the game! Ignore the trolls and weigh in on the “who should start” from AAA discussion.
I never understood why some people don’t scroll past the idiots.
Rich in NJ June 11th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
yankeefeminista
It’s beyond comprehension (at least mine) that a guy who has been in the game as long as he has took so long to have this seemingly obvious revelation. It makes me very suspect about his judgment.
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I agree that given his normal feistiness and “protect his players” mentality, Joe whiffed in the Boston series. Why? Not sure. Maybe the importance of winning the games clouded his judgment or he wanted to give Boston the benefit of the doubt, or because those Beckett pitches were breaking balls and not up around the head. Not sure why, but he blew it.
Phelps, Mitchell, and Warren are the obvious options, but in what order?
GB, the camera in the SWB game is a million miles from the field. Not even watchable. I am going to listen to Manny B. pitch for Trenton.
Josh Norris thinks that Josh Romanski gets the trenton call-up by tomorrow with igawa going to Scranton.
That has to be a remote controlled camera, YankeeFem. They’ve used it a lot this year. hard to watch is right.
yankeefeminista June 11th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
ARod needs to do yoga.
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I’m a big believer in adding yoga to the training program, and ballet as well for pitchers to give them better balance control through their mechanics. Agree wholeheartedly with you.
I wonder where Igawa ranks on the pitching depth chart?
Phelps, Mitchell, and Warren are the obvious options, but in what order?
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I think they should go with the guy with the highest upside and that can translate to the bullpen because none of them are on the 40 man roster.
They also should consider who needs to be added to the 40 man at the end of this season. I’m not sure what the situation with each of those players is and when they need to be added.
Personally, I’m a big Warren fan and I think he has the highest upside so I would go with him. However, I bet they go with Phelps. I remember an interview with I think Newman saying he is the closest to being able to help.
I wouldn’t go with Mitchell because he doesn’t have an out pitch.
yankeefeminista June 11th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Rich, you are right. I think Girardi was too passive when it came to the HBP’s in the Boston series. I think he now realizes error; however, unfortunately, a little too late.
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Girardi is a fairly young manager, and I think he learns from his mistakes eventually (the guy is very smart). I think he’ll stop taking this lying down now.
Banuelos strikes out two, but walks one in the first inning. Gotta get that pitch count down.
Montero not in the lineup tonight.
Anyone know why?
I like the idea of making Noesi the 7th inning guy…he has been very impressive…
I also think the Colon DL stint could be a blessing in disguise. He’ll be fresh for the second half and play-offs…and we’ll get to give the young arms an opportunity. That might uncover someone who will be big for us in play-offs.
I’d go with the best strike out piotcher first…IIRC, that might be Warren.
Mitchell doesn’t have an out pitch except when he gets the outs on the ground. What a bum.
RS June 11th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I wonder where Igawa ranks on the pitching depth chart?
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If you were to look at the bottom of the page where it says “see other side”–then you would know.
GreenBeret7 June 11th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Josh Norris thinks that Josh Romanski gets the trenton call-up by tomorrow with igawa going to Scranton.
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We’ll take Romanski. Yes, Igawa has been called up to SWB.
Mitchell doesn’t have an out pitch except when he gets the outs on the ground. What a bum.
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An out pitch is a strikeout pitch.
AldotheApache June 11th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Niblick says:
June 11, 2011 at 6:03 pm
This blog has reached a new low in ignorance. Thanks stuart a.
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Methinks you seriously underestimate the inabilities of west coast/vineyard/stuart/et al.
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I believe you can add “Frozen Dope” and “Northwest Yankee Fan” to that list. Both are probably aliases.
YankeeFem, you’ll enjoy watching Romanski. A lot like a young Pettitte . Hits around 92-93 MPH and all of the pitches. Just short on experience as a pro pitcher, but, he wins.
Is Romanski the kid drafted from Canada that hasn’t played baseball very long but has a power arm?
I know what an out pitch is. The same one that Wang didn’t have while winning 38 games over 2 years.
Romanski was a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick by the Brewers about 3 years ago. Drafted as an outfielder. Hurt his arm and was released and became a pitcher. Yanks got him 2 years ago for nothing.
IIRC, many spoke of Mitchell being a great candidate for long relief–sort of like a modern day Mendoza.
Ledger_Yankees Hearing Montero has not been called up, though I don’t know why he’s not in the lineup.
I know what an out pitch is. The same one that Wang didn’t have while winning 38 games over 2 years.
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It’s pretty silly to constantly compare every groundball pitcher to Wang. To be honest it’s insulting to Wang because he was so much of a better pitcher than Nova or Mitchell.
Neither of those guys can come close to matching the heavy sinker Wang had.
Nova is not Wang and DJ Mitchell is not Wang. And it’s is extremely unlikely that either of those guys develop into pitchers even close to what Wanger was.
Good breakdown on Swishes’ batting woes this year on RiveAveBlues.
And contrary to what someone here wrote a few weeks ago, his power side is not hitting lefty this year. Sounds like they’re suggesting he drop his switch-hitting and just hit righty.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/......+Blues%29
GreenBeret7 June 11th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Romanski was a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick by the Brewers about 3 years ago. Drafted as an outfielder. Hurt his arm and was released and became a pitcher. Yanks got him 2 years ago for nothing.
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Thanks!
Do you recognize the profle of the guy I just wrote about? I think it was in one of the last 2 drafts…
Perhaps you had better watch them first, because clearly, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I didn’t say they would be as good. Only that they both have hard sinking fastballs and live on groundouts an keeping the ball in the park.
I disagree about Mitchell; both Mitchell’s sinker and CB can be swing and miss pitches and he also has a decent changeup. Warren has less K/9 this year than Mitchell, and isn’t pitching that well.
The 40-man roster subject to change at any hour …………
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p?c_id=nyy
And exactly why is Reegie Corona still on this roster clogging up a spot when he hasn’t played in over a year ?
You talking about Adam Loewen from Baltimore?
RS says:
June 11, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I wonder where Igawa ranks on the pitching depth chart?
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Just behind their 2013 draft picks.
Corona is on the 60 day DL, so he’s not takining up any space.
108 stitches June 11th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
The 40-man roster subject to change at any hour …………
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com…..p?c_id=nyy
And exactly why is Reegie Corona still on this roster clogging up a spot when he hasn’t played in over a year ?
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Because Hank believes that if he is real nice to him, he’ll get a lifetime supply of his family’s beer.
Perhaps you had better watch them first, because clearly, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I didn’t say they would be as good. Only that they both have hard sinking fastballs and live on groundouts an keeping the ball in the park.
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You have repeatedly said Nova will be Wang or something to that effect with some patience.
Wang is the exception, not the rule. Pitchers who can’t strike people out don’t tend to have bright futures in the majors.
Mitchell is a fine pitcher. He is not a bum and I never said he was. However, the Yankees have much better in their system with much more upside.
You’ll find Igawa’s name in the ‘fine print’….
GreenBeret7 June 11th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
You talking about Adam Loewen from Baltimore?
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Not sure…off to Google.
LGY, Montero was in the original lineup. Not sure why he was scratched. SWB blog is not covering the game tonight. Maybe he has been called up to NY.
YF:
Ledger_Yankees Just texted Cashman to ask if the Yankees called up Montero. He writes back: “No”
Fem,
That would be awesome!!
But unfortunately Tom’s post at 7:23 says no
Evan Rutckyj
6’6 220 pounds
Left-handed pitcher
Manny two of his three K’s were on CB’s. He is throwing a lot of pitches though. Two BB.
Evan Rutckyj
http://www.yankeesdaily.com/post/15792
LGY June 11th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Fem,
That would be awesome!!
But unfortunately Tom’s post at 7:23 says no.
Heretics!
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Can we vote for who makes the spot starts?
Noesi has already shown he can flip through a ML lineup. If they bring him up and use him as a long guy in another losing effort, I’m going to throw something. Let one of the other 3 AAAA pitchers they have in the pen right do the garbage work.
Tom in N.J. June 11th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
YF:
Ledger_Yankees Just texted Cashman to ask if the Yankees called up Montero. He writes back: “No”
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I am not loving Cashman very much these days.
I said that Mitchell was a lot like Wang, but a couple of miles slower. I said that he steadily throws ground balls and has a few more strikeouts, and about the same walk numbers as Wang. Nova is about as close to Wang as Mitchell is.
YF, I’m no doubting Thomas!
Their pen is a mess right now, Noesi might be more valuable there, than making 3-4 starts before the ASB, that is if Colon isn’t back before then.
BoJo June 11th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
IIRC, many spoke of Mitchell being a great candidate for long relief–sort of like a modern day Mendoza.
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If we don’t trade him, I could see him being successful in a Mendoza role, but I still think he will be a very good middle of rotation SP.
yankeefeminista June 11th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Manny two of his three K’s were on CB’s. He is throwing a lot of pitches though. Two BB.
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With all his obvious talent, I still would be surprised for a young left-hander not to struggle with control for the first few years. We need to be patient with Manny.
Interesting why they wouldn’t just insert Noesi in Colon ‘s spot…..that would be the obvious choice. If not though Id probably go with Warren.
I can understand not bringing up Montero right now. I mean, why bring him up when Martin is on his way back? They probably want Montero to prove he’s ready for the call up. I don’t care much as long as Cervelli is pushed into the background.
Right now, we are in a pitching crisis, that’s the primary concern.
GreenBeret7 June 11th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
I said that Mitchell was a lot like Wang, but a couple of miles slower. I said that he steadily throws ground balls and has a few more strikeouts, and about the same walk numbers as Wang. Nova is about as close to Wang as Mitchell is.
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Is Mendoza a better comparison?
I don’t think Montero is the topic of the day to be called up.
Unless he can also pitch…
Tom in N.J. June 11th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
YF, I’m no doubting Thomas!
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Not you, but the Yankees braintrust.
blake June 11th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Interesting why they wouldn’t just insert Noesi in Colon ‘s spot…..that would be the obvious choice. If not though Id probably go with Warren.
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Aren’t the other guys more stretched out than Noesi? He has been in pen for a while now (it seems)
Noesi will be a better pitcher than Nova and Nova’s got a chance to be a pretty good pitcher. It’s a tough choice. Noesi is a better strikeout pitcher so far in his pro career.
mick June 11th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
I don’t think Montero is the topic of the day to be called up.
Unless he can also pitch…
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He is Jesus. Of course he can pitch.
I doubt Montero will be up for anything other then a cup of coffee this year.
Noesi threw 6 innings the other night….Girardi said he was stretched out to 85 pitches. He would probably be ok.
Mendoza was pretty decent, but, no, not really. Best I remember, Mendoza was more of a fly ball pitcher, but, could get grounders.
Pendleton, Whelan, Sanit, Marquez are the reasons for Noesi needing to be in the pen.
BoJo June 11th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
yankeefeminista June 11th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Manny two of his three K’s were on CB’s. He is throwing a lot of pitches though. Two BB.
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With all his obvious talent, I still would be surprised for a young left-hander not to struggle with control for the first few years. We need to be patient with Manny.
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I think they will be with patient with both Manny and Dellin. It would be foolish to rush either.
Warren as a raw rookie and a fly ball pitcher against Texas would scare me. Perhaps with MLB experience.
Just watched the video of Evan Rutckyj. When he gets here, he is going to be very tough on left handed hitters. Brutal 3/4 delivery, and 6’6″
BBs continue for Manny tonight so far 2 in 2 ip
Phelps is the best choice for the rotation long term and thus IMO the best choice to make that start on Thursday.
You really can’t play down the numbers he’s put up over his professional career. He has a terrific track record and while I understand that he isn’t beating the world down with his stuff, should have plenty to succeed given his command and savvy.
Fastball velocity doesn’t mean anything unless its coupled with movement and command, among other things. We’ve seen that with Nova this year and I think Phelps can be a solid major league starter even with an 89-91 MPH fastball.
Phelps is as close as any Yankee prospect to IPK and Clippard that I’ve seen, he’s virtually in the exact same mold as those two. People disparaged both of their chances to become successful major league pitchers because of their fastball velocity, and both have made a lot of people look foolish so far.
GreenBeret7 June 11th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Mendoza was pretty decent, but, no, not really. Best I remember, Mendoza was more of a fly ball pitcher, but, could get grounders.
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Fly ball pitcher? My memory must be fading…I always thought his claim to fame was his sinker and ability to get DPs.
The question I have is what young pitcher stands the best chance to go up against Texas and NOT be traumatized for life? I don’t want to see another incident like Chase Wright.
Texas kills fast balls, and the pitcher best suited might be someone who has good command of a change up and keeps the ball low. Control in the zone, and changing planes also important.
“I wonder where Igawa ranks on the pitching depth chart.”
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blake June 11th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Noesi threw 6 innings the other night….Girardi said he was stretched out to 85 pitches. He would probably be ok.
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Thanks!
I agree I would be fearful of Warren’s FB propensity vs. Texas. Against Texas, I would go Mitchell, Phelps, Warren for the start. Although, I could see Yanks choosing Phelps over Mitchell. With Phelps, I would be concerned that if he isn’t pinpoint, he won’t get calls, will not get the benefit of the doubt on pitches around the plate, etc. I like Mitchell’s stuff and deception for Texas.
Bojo, that guy is Mitchell, but they might consider Phelps more advanced. However, I still would go Mitchell.
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I also think Warren’s lefty splits are pretty bad. Too lazy to look. That too would concern me.
BoJo June 11th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
The question I have is what young pitcher stands the best chance to go up against Texas and NOT be traumatized for life? I don’t want to see another incident like Chase Wright.
Texas kills fast balls, and the pitcher best suited might be someone who has good command of a change up and keeps the ball low. Control in the zone, and changing planes also important.
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Girardi is going to talk about getting hit left and right and he is tired of it yet what is being done about it? CC,Colon,AJ and Nova are capable of retaliating yet people on here say that CC is the only pitcher we have that can do it. It took how many guys getting hit by Boston for us to hit back and now we see it again against Cle and we had Nova and Colon on the mound that are capable at retaliation and yet nothing happens.
You address this stuff right after it happens and you will see a drop in the amount of hit by pitches
Clippard’s very good for Clippard. He blows more than his share of pitchers wins and then picks up the wins. They’ve finally not bringing him in in close games with runners on base. You can have him. Check inherited runs scored last year and this year.