Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jun 14, 2011
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No decision on whether Jeter will have to go on the DL until after Joe Girardi meets with Dr. Chris Ahmad at 6. He will be out at least a week, Girardi says. Ramiro Pena will be activated either way.
It’s time for Joe and Cashman to manage the player as that’s what they’re paid to do.
This was a somewhat underwhelming update.
Dante19jr Physical went perfectly! I can’t wait to get out and play!
Ledger_Yankees Jeter feels sore; like he got hbp
FREE JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Via Mark Newman, Steve Garrison is throwing in rehab games and Graham Stoneburner is throwing bullpens. Jeremy Bleich not close to a return
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Newman also told me that Alan Horne is “close” to a return. As I reported yesterday, Horne has his last extended spring start on Friday.
BloggingBombers Jeter says he’s “still pleading” his case to avoid the DL http://twitpic.com/5blecz
Ledger_Yankees “Soreness is not a problem… you just don’t want to make it worse.” Jeter
Ledger_Yankees “Soreness is not a problem… you just don’t want to make it worse.” Jeter
The killer B’s should be able to pitch out of the bullpen in August/September when they’re nearing their innings limit. The only thing is you have to make sure they go into ST next year as starters so they can build up towards 200 innings.
It’s really not uncommon to break in a talented starter by pitching him in relief first. Morrow, Masterson, Oguando, CJ Wilson, Wainwright, and several other good young starting pitchers started their big league career in the bullpen.
Please forgive the repeated Carig tweet. LOL
JackCurryYES Jeter: “I don’t like not to play, whether I’m going for 3,000 hits or 100 hits.”
JackCurryYES Jeter said the pain is the same today as it was last night. Added that the calf had been sore for a few days.
Which is why Cash and Joe has to do what’s best for the player.
Hughes throwing at 89-92 does not sound all that exciting to me. I recall when Joba was throwing 93-94 in the spring the assumption was he would throw much harder later. For the most part, he did not. I expect Hughes in this same range four starts from now.
I would like some empirical evidence that velocity increases as ability to throw more pitches increases. I doubt it normally happens.
Dr. Phil is where Cashman, Girardi , Jeter and Posada need to go. Hash it all out, have a group hug and get back to winning 28.
Without a doubt, Cashman places him on DL. You let him plead his case then the GM makes the tough decision.
Ledger_Yankees Jeter said he felt charley horse sensation as he came off the field on defense; thought it was a cramp; was trying to stretch while on deck
bring up Montero or trade him.
“Hughes throwing at 89-92 does not sound all that exciting to me. I recall when Joba was throwing 93-94 in the spring the assumption was he would throw much harder later. For the most part, he did not. I expect Hughes in this same range four starts from now.”
We’re getting different information as Cashman stated on the Kay show that Hughes touched 93 today, but sat mainly at 92.
Who is running this team?
Ledger_Yankees If it’s just a day or two, Jeter says it’s not a big deal for Yanks to play a man short even at nl park
what the hell is this suppose to mean Po is a option to catch but he’s no ready
Hope Horne makes a full recovery and gets a chance to play in the bigs one day. Not long ago he was our minor league HOPE aside from Hughes and Clippard. Good luck kid.
Ok Jeter
Who is running this team?
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The core 3…isn’t it obvious with 2 out of the 3
Ledger_Yankees If it’s just a day or two, Jeter says it’s not a big deal for Yanks to play a man short even at nl park
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I thought he was the captain not the manager?
JackCurryYES If the Yanks don’t inistantly d.l. Jeter, they”d be a man short. But Jeter dismissed that issue. “We play a man short all the time,” he said
The Yankees need a manager from outside the org
Funny thing is when Jeter runs his own team someday as those are his aspirations. There is no way he would let the club play in NL cities a man short for a day or two.
So Jeets your wrong here buddy.
If Jeter said that he is right. It’s not a big deal to play shorthanded for a few games if Jeter will be ready in 5-7 days. This happens alot. I guess it’s because it’s an aging Jeter it’s a big deal.
I guess this makes me a bad fan, but Jeter is being ridiculous. If he can’t play for a week, he needs to go on the DL. End of story. Enough coddling his gamer/ironman legend. The team needs healthy bodies and options to win some games.
what the hell is this suppose to mean Po is a option to catch but he’s no ready
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Maybe he forgot his catchers mitt at home. Im o.k. with him using the tinos fist basemans glove behind the plate. Or just take Cervellis and tell him he wont be needing it anytime soon.
I agree free Jesus and let him play or trade him for God’s sakes!
# joeman June 14th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
what the hell is this suppose to mean Po is a option to catch but he’s no ready
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option in case of an emergency but not ready to catch a full game?
# G. Love June 14th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
I guess this makes me a bad fan, but Jeter is being ridiculous. If he can’t play for a week, he needs to go on the DL. End of story. Enough coddling his gamer/ironman legend. The team needs healthy bodies and options to win some games.
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some will call you a troll
wow jeter’s being a douche,… dl him, this isnt the old jeter, you’re replaceable sir, and easily so
If Jeter doesn’t go on the DL you may as well cut Girardi’s balls off
Ledger_Yankees Oh, by the way, it started raining here. Yankees scattered off the field during BP. Here comes the tarp.
So instead they play 2 short…. heh smart, and then martin plays kinda hurt and sucks, instead of fully healing, i guess he was just bad beforehand for his average to drop as it was?
“We play a man short all the time,”
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Yes Jete. You have a point. It seems like we’ve been playing 3 men short at times and a leadoff guy.
What on earth are you all talking about. Jeter does not decide if he goes on the DL or not. Why would he want to?
looks like a 1-2 hrs of showers..then looks clear
If Jeter doesn’t go on the DL you may as well cut Girardi’s balls off
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I believe Posada did it for him.
Even if the game gets rained out tonight, I don’t think it will solve the problem of who pitches in Bart’s spot. Because they will play a DH either tomorrow or Wednesday anyways, thus forcing a pitcher to take Bart’s spot.
Speaking of Bart: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
JackCurryYES If the Yanks don’t inistantly d.l. Jeter, they”d be a man short. But Jeter dismissed that issue. “We play a man short all the time,” he said
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If it was Jeter of 10 years ago I could understand not wanting to DL him. But losing this version of Jeter for 2 weeks isn’t a big deal. Nunez can do everything that he can and the extra range is nice also. I am glad the captain runs the team.
# RS June 14th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The killer B’s should be able to pitch out of the bullpen in August/September when they’re nearing their innings limit. The only thing is you have to make sure they go into ST next year as starters so they can build up towards 200 innings.
It’s really not uncommon to break in a talented starter by pitching him in relief first. Morrow, Masterson, Oguando, CJ Wilson, Wainwright, and several other good young starting pitchers started their big league career in the bullpen.
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When it comes to the Yankees and starting pitching going to the pen let’s just say I’m not sure if they’ll come out the same as they went in.
So Pena’s being activated either way – if Jeter doesn’t go on the DL what’s the move? Waive Marquez?
question…if the the Yankees score 10 runs one game and 0 runs another are the averaging 5 runs a game………………
What’s the big deal? Keep Jeter active. Bring up Pena. You do know Marquez is on this roster. Is this guy ever going to pitch? We could do without one of the long guys in the pen since we hardly ever use them. Not a big deal.
“We play a man short all the time,” he said”
One of his teammates should be offended.
Maybe this will get some of you to calm down:
AndrewMarchand Updated Jeter story with Jeter quotes and Joey G info. Cashman makes final call and he already is leaning toward DL. http://es.pn/iCN87J
# pat June 14th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
“We play a man short all the time,” he said”
One of his teammates should be offended.
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who said that?
Jeter is being selfish right now. He needs to think of the team first, not himself.
If he’s out for a week, the team can not afford situations in the NL park with 1 less player.
pat June 14th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
“We play a man short all the time,” he said?
One of his teammates should be offended.
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JoeAuriemmaYES Its absolutely pouring. Tarp is on the field. Awful weather here right now.
They had better put Jeter on the DL so they can call Buddy Carlyle up.
What he means is that guys are unavailable all the time. This pitcher is not pitching tonight no matter what, Martin is out last night, etc.
Tarp on field.
pat June 14th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
“We play a man short all the time,” he said”
One of his teammates should be offended.
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Swisher sits in the corner & cries LOL
I hope the plane left w/o Choo
On espn front page is titled prospects coming soon to a park near you in June.
Dustin Ackley MARINERS
Desmond Jennings RAYS
Jason Kipnis INDIANS
Lonnie Chisinhall INDIANS
Matt Domingues MARLINS
Brett Lawrie JAYS
Devin Morasco REDS
**DAVID PHELPS YANKEES
Trayvon Robinson DODGERS
Shelby Miller CARDINALS
Cant put my finger on it but someones missing on that list. Oh yeah. Honerable mention Montero.
Choo would be a nice add
If Jeter is going to be out a week, an extra week isn’t a big deal for him to be on the DL. If it was Arod, Tex, Granderson or Cano obvioulsy you wouldn’t DL them but Jeter is being selfish.
If Jeter is active, but not available for a few games you won’t even notice it. How often do we use the 12th man in the bullpen anyhow? Our bench will not be thin because Pena will be here. Our bullpen will be a little thin, but like I said how often does the 12th man out there pitch? Do we really need Pendleton, Noesi and Marquez all active? No.
Jeter publicly campaigning to avoid a DL stint.
Only the Yankees.
No Martin again in lineup. DL him, as well.
JackCurryYES When Jeter was asked about being man short, esp in NL parks, he said the Yanks have done that b4 and it’s “not a big deal.” Most disagree
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These are the kind of things that sometimes have me question if Jeter really is a ‘team first’ guy all the time.
Over reactions on here, of course.
This is straight at of the Jeter handbook. He’s always given responses like this. I highly doubt anything can stop Cashman & Girardi DLing him if the prognosis is about 10 days.
SOS
Posada took one.
Jeter is going for the other.
Pena is already up……unless they’d call up Montero then it really doesn’t matter much if they DL Jeter or not because whoever they brought up likely wouldn’t make a difference.
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In addition to the LeBron replica ring, the Chiefs are looking into whether or not the game can skip the fourth inning to honor King James who took off the fourth quarter of every finals game.
“We aren’t sure if the league will allow it,” said team President Rocky Vonachen. “But if LeBron doesn’t need to show up for the fourth, maybe we won’t either.”
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....d=20110614
question…if the the Yankees score 10 runs one game and 0 runs another are the averaging 5 runs a game……………
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10/2 = 5
Now find a team that scores either 10 runs or 0 runs every other night, or a team that scores exactly 5 runs every night. tia
Irony of all this Montero talk is that the biggest argument seems to be that he wouldn’t get enough consistent playing time. However, if you look at the fact that Cervy started the year on the DL and now Martin should be on the DL, there would have been more than enough chances to give Jesus playing time.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....ise-50226/
Very insightful take on Colon. Never thought about this as a silver lining.
Girardi would probably had to think about skipping him a few starts anyways to limit the load if he would’ve stayed healthy the whole time.
“Who is running this team?”
Mas flores!
Now find a team that scores either 10 runs or 0 runs every other night, or a team that scores exactly 5 runs every night. tia
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The Red Sox score 10 every night. Duh.
If DJ wants to play, let him play.
# LGY June 14th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
question…if the the Yankees score 10 runs one game and 0 runs another are the averaging 5 runs a game……………
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10/2 = 5
# Jerkface June 14th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Now find a team that scores either 10 runs or 0 runs every other night, or a team that scores exactly 5 runs every night. tia
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just questioning the average runs per game theory…………..
just questioning the average runs per game theory…………..
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Not very well.
# LGY June 14th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Now find a team that scores either 10 runs or 0 runs every other night, or a team that scores exactly 5 runs every night. tia
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The Red Sox score 10 every night. Duh.
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this team doesn’t win the WS this year I’ll be very surprised….the Yankees get a 1A SP will change that
Erin June 14th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Maybe this will get some of you to calm down:
AndrewMarchand Updated Jeter story with Jeter quotes and Joey G info. Cashman makes final call and he already is leaning toward DL. http://es.pn/iCN87J
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It’s fairly obvious by what Cashman said that Jeter’s DL bound. All of this fake outrage is just acting out the usual snorefest bull that Jeter thinks he’s above the team and that he runs the team. Just wringing out the last few drops they can until the annoucement comes.
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Now that I got that trivia out of the way. Both Jeter and Martin need to be DL’d. Jeter can get his 3K at home and also get a nice rest. He’s 36 years old, & contrary to dubious opinion, I’ll take a rested Jeter at 36 as my EDSS over Eduardo, whom I have always liked on both sides of the ball. It also gives Nunez some extended time at SS in the event Jeter does go down again at some point.
Martin needs to be DL’d and Montero needs to be promoted. Comments that folks who think Montero needs to come up are clueless are clueless comments. How is this guy going to be scarred by being promoted while the starting catcher is seriously ailing & the backup is flailing? Even if they send him down again, the taste will serve him well because Martin may not be a sure thing going forward in terms of health, and then Montero will have had his initiation behind him should be be pressed into another emergency callup before his “time”.
This would be irrevocably detrimental to the youngster?
# Jerkface June 14th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
just questioning the average runs per game theory…………..
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Not very well.
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explaining it to me then
A strained calf is going to take several days to heal at Jeter’s age. He needs to do lots of stretching and take it easy. Jeter should go on the DL and take his time coming back.
If this were the playoffs he might be able to play through it, but he would be risking a more serious injury. I am sure that he wants to get 3,000 hits out of the way, but it is selfish for him to put this issue in front of winning right now.
For a guy who gets complemented all the time for being classy and doing things the right way, Jeter is handling this issue poorly.
explaining it to me then
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All other teams except Red Sox average less than 5 runs per game. By definition they can’t be scoring 5 runs per night. I also doubt they score 4 runs every night. So basically all the other teams are scoring less runs than the yankees on average and likely aren’t doing it in any more consistent a manner. They are worse. You’re whining about nothing. The Yankees might score 10 and then 0, but they’ll also score 5, 4,6,7,8,9,3,2,1 runs as well. Or more than 10.
Go to the scoring summaries on BB-Ref and calculate the % each team scores 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7+ runs a game, and the yankees will be near the top in high scoring games.
Jeter’s statement is irresponsible. With Martin’s balky back, they will be currently TWO men short. This team, for all the resources it has at its disposal, is lacking. Its time that management starts making decisions that are best for the team – nots its sacred cow players.