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Yankees pregame: The Gordon era/Ranger accuses two Yankees/more from Cashman

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We’re going to see if the Brian Gordon era lasts just one day or more.

Brian Cashman spoke about the machinations involved in bringing the 32-year-old converted outfielder and 15-year minor-leaguer here to start today. The Phillies sent out a major-league-wide memo last week about Gordon’s availability because he had an opt-out at Triple-A coming on Wednesday and they had no room for him on the major-league staff. The Yankees’ scouts had not seen him this year. So Cashman got film on him and had Gene Michael, Joe Girardi and Larry Rothschild look at it.

“Everybody was like, ‘This guy looks like he can help us,’ ” Cashman said. “I’m not afraid to take a chance.”

The Yankees sent Lance Pendleton down to Triple-A to make room on the 25-man roster and released Amauri Sanit to make room on the 40-man roster.

Cashman compared Gordon to Darrell Rasner, Dustin Moseley and Aaron Small, not overpowering but able to command his pitches.

Girardi said this should be Gordon’s mind-set: “I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I have a tremendous opportunity to make some starts for the New York Yankees.”

Cashman said he’s mixing and matching right now with the staff, and that he’s put the word out that he’s looking for incremental upgrades and significant upgrades. He said he hadn’t yet looked into the just-released Scott Kazmir, but indicated that he would, although he said he knows Kazmir has struggled and isn’t throwing like he used to throw.   

The GM said he doesn’t want to rush prospects before their time.

Cashman was brutally honest as usual when it came to the backup catcher situation. Russell Martin is back in the lineup after missing seven of the last eight games. Francisco Cervelli, who has struggled offensively and defensively, had subbed for him. Cashman wants top catching prospect Jesus Montero to play. That’s why he isn’t being brought up to back up Martin and get occasional DH at-bats.

“Is Montero better than Cervelli? Yes he is,” Cashman said.

Martin’s back seems to be better.

“The difference now is I am good,” Martin said. “Before I was just saying I felt good. Why? Because I wanted to play.”

Jorge Posada is in the lineup as the DH against the lefty C.J. Wilson because he’s going to be a pinch hitter for perhaps all of the next road trip, six games in NL parks where there will be no DH. Girardi wanted to keep him in the swing of things.

Rangers catcher Yorvit Torrealba has created a stir the last two nights, accusing the Yankees of trying to tip pitch location to the hitters from second base, according to Andruw Jones. Torrealba said something to Mark Teixeira on Tuesday and then yelled at Jones at one point Wednesday during a mound visit.

“He was yelling at one of our guys and I don’t appreciate that,” Girardi said.

Jones said Torrealba was just trying to make excuses for the staff getting pounded.

“Guys get paranoid,” Teixeira said.

Cashman expects Eric Chavez to return the second or third week of July and Rafael Soriano to come back right after the All-Star break. 

Girardi said new reliever Cory Wade could be in the fifth-, sixth- and seven-inning mix.

Girardi said he’s looking forward to the coming trip to Chicago to visit his ailing dad.

“He’s not doing too well,” Girardi said.

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74 Responses to “Yankees pregame: The Gordon era/Ranger accuses two Yankees/more from Cashman”

  1. Erin June 16th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    OK, I’m officially out of here! :)

    Enjoy the game everyone- go Gordon!!

  2. LGY June 16th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    No one asked why Alex isn’t playing?

  3. Tom in N.J. June 16th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    “Is Montero better than Cervelli? Yes he is,” Cashman said

    :neutral:

  4. Captain Clutch June 16th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Totally agree about Arod
    ————

    I wouldn’t be surpised if he met with the hip doctor when he was supposed to and the Yanks are just keeping that quiet. They probably aren’t going to admit it but something isn’t right. He also hasn’t been on fire at the plate and hasn’t driven the ball recently as much as he usually does.

  5. LGY June 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    The GM said he doesn’t want to rush prospects before their time.

    ——-

    Joba hangover

  6. Irreverent Discourse June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    He’s not limping when running the bases, any speculation about A-Rod’s hip is just that… speculation.

    Maybe it’s just an off day with interleague coming up. Relax.

  7. Captain Clutch June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Who cares what Torrealba says he is known to be a hot head loser…

  8. G. Love June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Isn’t it common knowledge and part of the game that the runner on 2nd tip location to the batter?

  9. SoS June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Happy Birthday ERIN!! Today the whole outfield will go yard for you.

    Does anyone know when the last time Grandyman got a day off?

  10. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Cashman really going out on a limb there about Montero’s superiority to Cervelli. :roll:

  11. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Gee Cash, thanks for confirming what we wouldn’t have been able to figure out ourselves, that Montero is better than Cervelli :roll:

  12. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    Cashman really going out on a limb there about Montero’s superiority to Cervelli.
    ///

    LOL. :D

  13. Triple Short of a Cycle June 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    So Cash wants Montero to play everyday which is fine but then why did they have him trying out to be the backup in spring training. Makes no sense

  14. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    blake June 16th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    No Gardner again though…..seriously that’s my only gripe. If they don’t see him as an every day player then they need to change directions this winter and get somebody they do.

    ////

    Although his numbers against LHP in general aren’t abysmal (including a .352 career OBP in 277 PA & a .373 OBP last season), they probably don’t have much confidence in him hitting LHSP & they got Jones to do it.

    They probably do not like this (vs. LH starters):

    .209 .336 .298 .634 in 277 career PA

    including 2011:

    .077 .265 .077 .342 in 35 PA

    & his “breakout” year, 2010:

    .197 .335 .288 .623 in 164 PA

    (while the stats vs. LHSP account for an entire game started by a LHP, including substitutions that may or may not be LH, they do tell an understory on how he really has competed against tougher lefties).
    ________________________
    Noticed that stat. Gardner doesn’t hit LHSP very well. And guess they don’t want to find out if he can improve in that area. They are very formulaic. Look at what they did with Posad,a batting right handed. The latter kneejerk indictment was a joke. If you are going to take so long to give Po the benefit of the doubt, why would you give a lesser hitter like Gardner that benefit?

  15. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Didn’t expect Sanit to be released.

  16. Joe from Long Island June 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Re: – Torrealba’s complaint about tipping pitch location – sounds like gamesmanship to me. That stuff has been going on for over a century, certainly since GB and randy were little boys. ;)

    On another note, if Soriano is truly expected back within a month, that would go along with Cash’s looking for in-house/low cost options for the pen. So far, so good with that approach. No need to trade any young players who you might need for bigger deals later on.

  17. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Grandy and Cano don’t deserve rests, uh, dontcha know! :roll:

  18. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    BTW – while the focus was on Gerrit Cole for being the draft pick the Yanks didn’t sign – we’re going to probably get a look at another former Yankee draft pick this weekend in Chicago.

    Chris Carpenter (RHP) is in the Cubs pen.

  19. SoS June 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    yf,
    My bad I forgot. Rest is for CLOSERS!!

  20. kd June 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    cue the free montero posts

    let the kid play and develop. he’ll be up when the powers that be feel it’s time

  21. LGY June 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Didn’t expect Sanit to be released.

    ——

    Why? He sucks.

  22. Captain Clutch June 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Montero is better than Cervelli…woohoo!!!

    If a catcher isn’t better than Cervelli it’s time to find a different job….

  23. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Good to see Girardi come to his senses & start Po against a LHS.

    That whole “four good days” stuff was a joke. I thought of Lohud yesterday actually while listening to Kay’s interview with Teixeira.

    Kay: “Mark, what can you say about Jorge? It’s night and day. He was just lost at the plate, wasn’t he?”

    Tex: “You guys think he was lost because you’re looking from the outside, relying on stats. But us? We’re watching his ABs and he’s been swinging really well for quite a while, he was making outs that could have been hits, etc. We knew it was just a matter of time….Jorge’s one of the greatest catchers of all time, we knew he was going to hit…”

    (This is all paraphrased btw).

    Tex knows hitting
    Po knows hitting
    :D

  24. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Erin, have fun! :)

  25. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Tex: “You guys think he was lost because you’re looking from the outside, relying on stats. But us? We’re watching his ABs and he’s been swinging really well for quite a while, he was making outs that could have been hits, etc. We knew it was just a matter of time….Jorge’s one of the greatest catchers of all time, we knew he was going to hit…”
    ______
    This. Obvious.

  26. 11 CF June 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Looks like Gardner just needs another day to rest his legs.

  27. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    kd June 16th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    cue the free montero posts

    let the kid play and develop. he’ll be up when the powers that be feel it’s time

    ///
    when Montero’s cashing his social security checks, someone will channel Cashman from the afterlife:

    “Not ready quite yet..”

  28. SoS June 16th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Cashman “SoS is a better catcher than Cervelli. And yes, Im well aware of him not playing the position since little league.”

  29. Betsy June 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    So Cash would rather a Rasner type on the mound than Noesi? Makes no sense, but whatever- hope he does well.

  30. UnKnown June 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    T Nish is back for the Twins today. First time since Swish took him out.

  31. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Prayers for Girardi’s dad.

  32. upstate kate June 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Erin
    Enjoy the rest of your day, and enjoy the Cubs game, even if you don’t get to see Jeet!

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    blake June 16th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    No Gardner again though…..seriously that’s my only gripe. If they don’t see him as an every day player then they need to change directions this winter and get somebody they do.

    ////

    Although his numbers against LHP in general aren’t abysmal (including a .352 career OBP in 277 PA & a .373 OBP last season), they probably don’t have much confidence in him hitting LHSP & they got Jones to do it.

    They probably do not like this (vs. LH starters):

    .209 .336 .298 .634 in 277 career PA

    including 2011:

    .077 .265 .077 .342 in 35 PA

    & his “breakout” year, 2010:

    .197 .335 .288 .623 in 164 PA

    (while the stats vs. LHSP account for an entire game started by a LHP, including substitutions that may or may not be LH, they do tell an understory on how he really has competed against tougher lefties).
    ________________________
    Noticed that stat. Gardner doesn’t hit LHSP very well. And guess they don’t want to find out if he can improve in that area. They are very formulaic. Look at what they did with Posad,a batting right handed. The latter kneejerk indictment was a joke. If you are going to take so long to give Po the benefit of the doubt, why would you give a lesser hitter like Gardner that benefit?
    ////

    The numbers against LHSP don’t surprise me. He has really looked clueless against good left-handers. He needs to really focus on going away against them, if he gets another chance to face one.

  34. Betsy June 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    LGY, lol………it was ok to rush Joba and Phil, though. I guess they were Brian’s guinea pigs

  35. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    LGY June 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Didn’t expect Sanit to be released.

    ——

    Why? He sucks.

    ———

    Figured it would be Carlyle.

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    Prayers for Girardi’s dad.
    ///

    Girardi has really aged & it hasn’t just looked like the stress of managing this team. He’s got that worried about a loved one aged look. Nothing like that worry or how it depletes the life force. Good thoughts for his father & the family.

  37. Captain Clutch June 16th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Gordon has pitched in the majors once in 2008 for Texas out of the bullpen for 3 innings. I guess Cashman is just checking to see what it there. If he doesn’t look good I am sure they will consider Noesi for the next start.

  38. BX33 June 16th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Who needs a guy like Noesi when you can have the next Rasner or Mosely :roll:

  39. Warning Track Power June 16th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    A. Jones better be light on his feet today. I have a feeling he will get drilled by a pitch.
    I saw the rangers catcher jawing last night. One of the words he directed at Jones was indeed an expletive in Spanish.

    Shocked by Cashman’s brutal honesty. If that isn’t a clear message to Cervelli, I don’t know what is.
    Cervelli probably knows his talent only goes so far as a back-up, but the guy really needs to stop throwing balls into CF.
    I really did like his single to RF last night with two outs. Good piece of hitting.

  40. upstate kate June 16th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    the most exciting game I ever saw in real life was a game started by Rasner vs Lackey

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Tex: “You guys think he was lost because you’re looking from the outside, relying on stats. But us? We’re watching his ABs and he’s been swinging really well for quite a while, he was making outs that could have been hits, etc. We knew it was just a matter of time….Jorge’s one of the greatest catchers of all time, we knew he was going to hit…”
    ______
    This. Obvious.
    ///

    Yea I was chuckling listening to that. Thought of the “DFA him!” folks around this place & other sites.

  42. LGY June 16th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Mark Teixiera supports his teammate. Story at 11.

  43. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    BX33 June 16th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Who needs a guy like Noesi when you can have the next Rasner or Mosely
    ———-

    Thought it was explained pretty well yesterday:

    Gordon’s on his regular rest and he’s fully stretched out as a starter – Noesi’s not.

  44. RSM June 16th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I understand this move, but don’t like the message it sends the the young guys. It comes across as a lack of confidence, as well as a lack of opportunity.

  45. Warning Track Power June 16th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Anybody following the game on MLB Gameday?
    Photo of Gordon features a baseball cap that is unknown to me.
    Go get ‘em kid.

  46. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Thought it was pretty interesting that Wade had one inning of work and jumped right into the mix for late game action.

  47. willwill June 16th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    lol @cashman

    I think brian has been reading so many forums, he decided to say it so people didn’t think he was stupid… as usual Brian looking out for himself

  48. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    RSM June 16th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    I understand this move, but don’t like the message it sends the the young guys. It comes across as a lack of confidence, as well as a lack of opportunity.

    —————-

    I don’t agree. Baseball is at its best when it is a meritocracy – if you look at the numbers they say Gordon has earned the start ahead of the other guys. This isn’t a decision based on potential, it’s a decision based on stats.

    Now, does that mean the Yankees would rather have Gordon than Phelps or Warren or Noesi for the next few years? No.

    I’m curious if Gordon’s control numbers maintain at this level. A lot of times with pitchers like Mosely or Rasner the walk/K ratio isn’t an indicator of stuff as much as it is guys who know how to take advantage of hitters with no plate discipline.

  49. Doc Iac June 16th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    coulda swore alot of people on this blog were callin cervelli the future catcher last yr, and sayin nova had front line starter stuff with names like supernova,

    its easy to get caught up in the hype, theres a reason cashman has the job and not us

  50. SoS June 16th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Is 10 games over .500 the best theyv had all year?

  51. Doc Iac June 16th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    gordon looks a little bit like al lieter in that pic

  52. LGY June 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Let the Gordon Era begin!

  53. hardwired7 June 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    SSS Alert

    Alex is 1-for-13 vs. Wilson. It might not be the worst time to give a few at-bats off, and then use his bat late in the game.

    He’s not alone in the bad #s dept. when it comes to C.J.:

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/...../cj-wilson

    Hopefully today the Yanks start to even out those matchup #s.

  54. Captain Clutch June 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Aaron Small takes the mound…..

  55. Tom in N.J. June 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    The Commissioner?

  56. SoS June 16th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    “The difference now is I am good,” Martin said. “Before I was just saying I felt good. Why? Because I wanted to play.”

    =========

    Uhhh. How do we know you dont just want to play now?

  57. UnKnown June 16th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Is it just me or does this guy look super nervous.

    I mean obviously he is but he is not hiding it well

  58. Chip June 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Captain Clutch June 16th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    Aaron Small takes the mound…..

    ———–

    Hey, if this guy goes 10 – 0 with a 3.20 ERA I’m fine with it.

  59. willwill June 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    i bet the yankees told the guy to opt out… no?

  60. willwill June 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    reminds me of bartolo so far

  61. UnKnown June 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    I do love guys who throw strikes. Pet peeves are walking guys and not signaling.

  62. LGY June 16th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Nice job getting out of the way Andrus

  63. Niblick June 16th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    Not ready for prime time.

  64. willwill June 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    sighs

  65. UnKnown June 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Welcome back Russ. Cervy are you watching you bum

  66. SoS June 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    New Thread

  67. yankeefeminista June 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Nice throw; hopefully Martin doesn’t have to go into traction after it.

  68. West Coast Yankee Fan June 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Wow! A real catcher behind the plate.

    See Cashman, you want to play the “better players” to win games.

    “Is Montero better than Cervelli? Yes he is,” Cashman said.

  69. m June 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    What’s with the Gaudin clones?

    Gordon says he likes to mix up his pitches and location to keep the hitters off balance. Might be a bad matchup for this FB lovin’ team.

    Looks like they got the runner by a whisker. Literally!

    Nice first inning.

  70. Gary June 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Who is left in the pen?

  71. J. Alfred Prufrock June 16th, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    R. Cano, most gifted baseball player on the planet.

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