Game 68: Yankees at Cubs
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jun 17, 2011 
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YANKEES (39-28)
Nick Swisher RF
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez SS
Brett Gardner LF
Freddy Garcia RHP
RHP Freddy Garcia (5-5, 3.60)
Garcia vs. Cubs
CUBS (28-40)
Kosuke Fukudome RF
Starlin Castro SS
Blake DeWitt 2B
Aramis Ramirez 3B
Carlos Pena 1B
Alfonso Soriano LF
Tony Campana CF
Koyie Hill C
Doug Davis LHP
LHP Doug Davis (0-5, 5.90)
Davis vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 2:20 p.m., YES Network and MLB Network
WEATHER: Wind blowing in from center field. Little bit cloud, but doesn’t really look like rain. Warm, but certainly not hot.
UMPIRES: HP Greg Gibson, 1B Sam Holbrook, 2B Todd Tichenor, 3B Gerry Davis
ROBINSON CAN: According to Elias, Robinson Cano has reached base safely in each of the Yankees 21 day games this season. The Yankees are a Major League best 18-3 in day games this season, and Elias says the Yankees are the first Major League team since 1958 to win 18 of their first 21 day games.
DISABLED: The Yankees have 10 players on the disable list, the most in the Majors. All year they’ve put 13 players on the DL, which is tied with the Dodgers and Twins for a Major League high. They had 11 players go on the DL all of last season.
ON THIS DATE: On June 17, 1978, Ron Guidry struck out 18 Angels in a four-hit shutout, setting a franchise record and an American League single-game record for strikeouts by a left-hander.
UPDATE, 3:01 p.m.: Not sure what’s causing the delay right now. There’s a lot of attention focused toward the outfield, maybe into the stands. No announcement or anything. If you’re watching on TV, you might know more than we do in the press box.
UPDATE, 3:23 p.m.: Garcia obviously can be effective, but he seems to naturally walk a pretty fine line. After three straight hits — and a run — to open the third inning, Garcia got out of the inning with three quick outs. It’s 3-0 Cubs. There’s already been some activity in the Yankees bullpen.
UPDATE, 3:46 p.m.: Two well-executed sac bunts for Freddy Garcia today. He’s done his job offensively.
UPDATE, 4:05 p.m.: This Yankees lineup isn’t making much noise against Davis. Two hits so far. Still trailing 3-0.
UPDATE, 4:11 p.m.: The Yankees completely botched the bunt, but Nunez made a nice play to salvage the pitchout and the caught stealing. It’s still 3-0 Cubs after six.
UPDATE, 4:32 p.m.: Swisher’s one-out double in the eighth has chased Davis from the game, and he got a well-deserved standing ovation as walked off the field. Here’s Sean Marshall.
Hi everyone, Go YANKEES!!!
Let’s win today and let’s HAVE FUN! Go Yanks!
it’s really cool to see the yankees play in wrigley. hopefully the bats keep doing what they’re doing.
and seriously, granderson for mvp
Go Freddy! Go Yanks!
Too bad. Nicky hit that good.
Wind blowing in huh. That sucks.
I wonder if any Yankees can hit one out with the wind blowing in…
I loved watching guidry pitch.
One of the toughest sob’s i have ever seen in sports.
Don’t see many like him anymore.
please don’t tell me this is going to be the day Davis starts pouring in strikes
Why was Swisher swinging on the third pitch? Why did Granderson swing and miss?
Bojo,
Happy birthday!< did you get lucky??
Luis–
Thanks again. Nope…lawn still high.
Good one GB
It’s amazing that the Cubs never tried to force the city of Chicago into giving them a new stadium…
Nice easy 84 MPH cheese from Davis.
lol, maybe later
I’m worried. We had way too little moaning about this line-up this morning. Probably a low scoring game as a result.
Where are the trolls when you need them?!
Is the wind blowing for sure?
munson15 June 17th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Good one GB
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I figured that it couldn’t possibly be any worse than the usual pre-game and 1st inning complaints.
“It’s amazing that the Cubs never tried to force the city of Chicago into giving them a new stadium…”
The new scuttlebutt is that they are going to have to build a new stadium as they are finding that they can’t sufficient repair Wrigley. Huge chunks of concrete fall off of Wrigley on a regular basis. During bad storms, pieces of the stadium fall onto Addison, which is the street that Wrigley borders. The stadium isn’t safe. I’m hoping they tear it down and build the new one in Naperville.
Luis–Yes, Waldman says the wind is straight in.
Not only did we get swept in Coors, we then lost 2 of 3 in San Francisco.
Beware the easy interleague trap!
Garcia with his best Doug Davis impression. C’mon guys!
Freddy hears footsteps….I think it’s Phil Hughes.
I wish Garcia was better at throwing strikes. He has no chance unless hitters swing at his pitches
Always nervous when Garcia starts …
Great point Nick….The Yanks win the AL East in ’07 if not for that horrible week….and maybe the Red Sox don’t win it all.
Is this cubs line up patient??, i wonder how garcia matches up with them
Laura – I Bleed Blue June 17th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
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I take it you live in Naperville?
No fastball command.
Why all the hate for Freddy? He’s been superb so far this year. A couple of hiccups, sure, but he’s been better than we would have expected.
That said, that was hit pretty hard.
BoJo June 17th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Luis–Yes, Waldman says the wind is straight in.
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May be thats why i thought swisher smashed that and it ended up in soriano’s glove
I hope Hugehs gets healthy and Colon too! don´t like Garcia
I don’t hate Freddy….but I think we all know why we don’t really like him….two abysmal starts against the Red Sox at Yankee Stadium.
“Beware the easy interleague trap!”
Yeah, remember in ’09 we lost 2 out of 3 and got shut out by the Nationals at home, and then lost 2 out of 3 to the Marlins. the Yankees don’t take advantage of interleague play like some other AL teams do (Red Sox, Twins, Rangers, White Sox to name a few). they usually only go 10-8 or something like that
Did Cano hold on to that ball because he wanted to autograph it before throwing home?
Garcia doesn’t have anything again. The frequency with which this is occurring is increasing.
Blake Dewitt batting third? Damn.
I like Fukudome
Bojo – Happy Birthday!
As for the lineup complaints? It stinks! I can’t believe they are batting Freddy Garcia 9th? What the Hell is Girardi thinking batting the pitcher???!!!!!
Beware the easy interleague trap
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Don’t the Yankees have the best record in interleague play since it began?
“I don’t hate Freddy….but I think we all know why we don’t really like him….two abysmal starts against the Red Sox at Yankee Stadium.”
I realize he’s done more than Freddy, but Sabathia’s spit the bit *three* times. Against Beckett, which is extra vomit-worthy.
GoldGlove9486 June 17th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I don’t hate Freddy….but I think we all know why we don’t really like him….two abysmal starts against the Red Sox at Yankee Stadium.
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He is not a good match for the Red Sox anymore. He used to own them when he had better stuff, but now they wait him out.
Jerk,
I like him too, but i think he is a bit expensive
G. Love June 17th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
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Thanks!
Garcia has nothing today. I could see Noesi replacing him in the rotation very soon….
ugh!!
“I take it you live in Naperville?”
No, I live 4 blocks away from Wrigley. That’s why I want it moved to Naperville.
Freddy’s not hitting his spots. Looking like Noesi may be in early…
This day game stuff is B.S……Yanks probably got here late last night after a 12 inning game.
garcia will get past this first inning and settle down. Be patient.
Laura – I Bleed Blue June 17th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
“I take it you live in Naperville?”
No, I live 4 blocks away from Wrigley. That’s why I want it moved to Naperville.
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Wow! That’s a surprise! I would love to live next to a ML stadium (I think).
c’mon freddy get your s@##$ together
No chance Garcia is making starts come aug 1
Yes Mell they do. 144-102. .585 winning percentage. best of any team
Garcia’s “stuff” isn’t going to get decent hitting teams out often. He could fool them for a couple of innings but that is it. His expiration date is coming up very soon.
Bojo, happy birthday! As for the lawn, get some goats. Garcia will settle down, I agree.
That’s all Garcia was supposed to do. The pitching has still exceeded expectations, but sometimes it’s pretty frustrating him watching him pitch, especially when a rally starts with a walk.
Noesi won’t be pitching today….too many innings yesterday…
My, how time flies–Sori is 35 alreaady….
I just don’t like watching Freddy pitch. Even in his best starts you’ll notice that he gets behind in the count a lot and then somehow miraculously gets the hitter to bail him out with an ugly swing.
The end result is fine, but it’s not an uncomfortable AB to watch. Guys like CC and Colon pound the strike zone and make hitters swing out of defense, but Freddy relies on hitters to be overly aggressive with little plate discipline.
What about Freddy Garcia makes people panic so much everytime he gives up a run?
This day game stuff is B.S
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Yankees have played about .870 baseball in day games.
tomingeorgia June 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
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Thanks Tom! Hope you are feeling better!
Wind aid helped there, possibly.
Sori just missed that one.
It’s nice to see Soriano isn’t a hot dog anymore.
Well it’s B.S. for people who have jobs and can’t watch it on TV.
the wind for sure is blowing in, that ball was crushed
Great link to one of the more memorable interleague games the Yanks have played.
Juan Acevedo sucks..this would have been a GREAT win…
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=230607116
That would have been a homer if not for the wind.
andruw would have gotten lost in the ivy and never returned
The Gritner is having none of that Sori.
Wow he got lucky there…
Hopefully Freddy settles down against the bottom of their lineup. Our guys need to start hitting Davis too.
Unless you’re the boss…..and have MLB TV.
“Wow! That’s a surprise! I would love to live next to a ML stadium (I think).”
Um, no you wouldn’t – at least not next to Wrigley. Cubs fans are obnoxious and notorious for being drunk before and after the game. Being around them is no fun.
My, how time flies–Sori is 35 alreaady
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All about one’s perspective. Somehow, I can’t believe Cubs fans feel like time’s flying when they see Soriano.
Bojo, Still pushing a walker (built-in lawn-mowing excuse, but should be on a cane next week). Better day by day, though. Thanks for the good wishes, now let’s go Yanks!
MLB TV doesn’t work if you live in New York.
This Davis guy is one of those bums that the Yankees should crush.
This pitcher reminds me slightly of the Japanese player the Mets threw at us last year…I think he went to Oakland or Angels in off season. Held Yankees to a low scoring game the first time they saw him.
Davis is the type of pitcher that they should pound but we know how that usually works out
jrazz12 June 17th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
andruw would have gotten lost in the ivy and never returned
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Are you making a case for starting him tomorrow?
BoJo, I think he pitched twice against Javy Vazquez and only Kevin Russo did anything off of him.
It works up here in Western NY… have Premium, wonder if that has something to do with it.
Another annoying thing about Cubs fans is that despite the fact that the Cubs haven’t won anything in over 100 years, they feel the need to tell everyone else that THEIR club stinks. It’s pretty comical. I just look at them like the idiots that they are.
David doesnt throw all fastballs, so the yankees have a tough time against him.
GoldGlove9486 June 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
BoJo, I think he pitched twice against Javy Vazquez and only Kevin Russo did anything off of him.
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I can’t recall his name but liked him…wouldn’t mind getting him for bullpen
It doesnt matter if Davis throws all fastballs or not, every one of his pitches comes in around the same speed. Hit him
He is like Bruce Chen, same speed on near everything, but different movement profiles
Not an optimal start, but hopefully Freddy settles down and the bats come alive on their second look at Davis. Yankees don’t get shut out today.
Laura – I Bleed Blue June 17th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
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You make good points. Where are they taking about for a new stadium?
One of these hitters needs to take a good cut at the first pitch because Davis is getting ahead on everyone 0-1, knowing that they’re just up there looking. Make him afraid to throw strikes
Yeah, he had that funky pause before throwing the ball kept everyone off balance
Freddy is just too inconsistent. The question is if they would have any use for him in the pen when Colon returns.
Doug’s garbage pitches are keeping them off balance
Yanks always have trouble with soft tossing leftys.
Yanks might be a little flat…..long homestand with ups and downs, probably got to Chicago really late and have to play a day game today.
“Don’t the Yankees have the best record in interleague play since it began?”
And think what it could be if we didn’t fall into the easy interleage trap.
Runs will come against this team…just need to keep it close.
It doesnt matter if Davis throws all fastballs or not, every one of his pitches comes in around the same speed
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His fastball is like a change up. Yankees have been a little out front. 2nd time thru they’ll get have him timed and start teeing off.
And of course, Michael Kay chooses to do the game in Wrigley. Only has to work one day and probably eats his way through Chicago for the next two days while the games are on FOX and ESPN.
hilarious list: the overstock.com stadium in oakland, been around since 1966
Come on Freddy. Can’t be walking the #8 guy.
Maybe Kaye can find a Springsteen concert tonight before he leaves.
SEEEEEEEEEEEE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hisanori Takahashi was the pitcher I was recalling–now with Angels.
thank god for automatic 1 pitch outs
I attribute much of the Yankees’ inter-league success to Matsui. The guy killed NL pitching.
Fukudome is hitting .380 with risp and risp 2 outs
Cervelli’s playing now?
Nothin’ like a Friday matinee at Wrigley. I love listening to Pat Hughes on WGN, a real pro.
Can our catchers please stop throwing the ball to Granderson
Garcia has to put up a zero here.
Nice
Okay, now let’s start getting some hits.
Garcia has hopefully settled down….
Takahashi was actually having a decent season though. Davis has flat out stunk for about a year now.
seems like the Yankees are always behind when they have a Battle of the $hitty starters
Geez. I don’t think that cone is going to affect anything. Cmon
Welcome to Wrigley Field everybody.
They should let Andruw Jones go up and get that thing
It’s as if YES has a script to follow about Jeter being a leadoff hitter.
I’d rather see Gardner bat leadoff every day. Swisher needs to bat behind Cano, especially when he’s swinging the bat well. It lengthens our lineup. Martin is not a #6 hitter
The Yanks have to start swinging early in the count. The 1st pitch is always a fastball right down the middle. He knows they are patient so he is taking advantage.
Freddy laid down a nice bunt there. Good job on him.
Geeze, Garcia bunts better than half of the regulars.
Garcia a natural bunter.
maybe Gardner can steal third with a slow-throwing lefty and Swisher batting righty at the plate
I think Swisher is batting lead off against lefties because the binder tells Girardi not to bat 2 lefties in Gardner and Granderson back to back. I would rather see Gardner there because when the lefty leaves the game Swish is an automatic out.
That’s some at bat by Nick.
RS: I wouldn’t mind the aggressiveness, but he seems to be getting poor jumps this year. I’d prefer (for now) to see if the Yanks can drive him in with a hit.
Not a strike.
Welll *that* wasn’t a strike.
Swish is an automatic out most of the time, not just when the lefty leaves the game.
Davis is getting a gigantic strike zone but the Yanks are also taking too many fastballs and swinging at the garbage.
Don’t think Swisher had much of a beef there.
Binder Joe (the Brainless) has the guy with the lowest batting average leading off. I guess he doesn’t want to make Jeter feel bad, by actually putting someone in that position who can actually hit the ball.
atta boy swish, thats a terrible call
Pathetic three innings
Binder Joe (the Brainless) has the guy with the lowest batting average leading off. I guess he doesn’t want to make Jeter feel bad, by actually putting someone in that position who can actually hit the ball.
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Swish has the highest average on the team vs lefties
maybe a little low but right in the middle of the plate to close to take
Swish vs LHP .348 .446 .561
What’s the problem here?
I hate when the Yanks face an awful pitcher because they never hit them like they should. Davis has a 6 era!!! Unfortunately for the Yanks that is usually 1 or 2 runs.
It’s amazing the trouble this team has with mediocre pitching. Just some atrocious at bats so far.
If Starlin Castro was in the American League, Derek Jeter would still get more All Star votes.
this is where we really miss Jeter. he would crush a guy like Davis and probably get things going in the very first inning. then you’d have Swisher protecting Cano instead of Martin
Less than inspiring effort thus far. I wouldn’t count them out yet, though.
Well, unless Garcia pitches them out of this game.
I knew the Cubs would get up for this series, but come on. It’s the Cubs guys.
The expiration date on Garcia is approaching. You can only get away with that slop he throws for so long.
Garcia is going to put this game out of reach in a couple of seconds….
How are we not able to hit this awful pitcher
hate inter league play
It’s still the third inning, right? Some of you are nuts.
This is why it’s tough to ever have more than a 3-4 game losing streak….there’s always a good chance one of these guys throws up a dud.
“Swish vs LHP .348 .446 .561″
I’d rather have that behind Cano. Gardner can get on base just fine against lefties…Swisher’s power is better suited in the middle of the order
Who pitches long relief today?
I hate to state the obvious, but I think Freddy is either tipping his pitches
or he is losing steam.
Unlike earlier this year, this start and his previous start were awful.
Not sure how much he is fooling the hitters.
Hughes might be replacing Freddy if he keeps this up.
They should just leave Garcia out there and get pounded otherwise they are kill the whole bullpen. Garcia needs to go. His stuff is awful and they have to give Noesi a chance…
Garcia is just not my type of pitcher, despite the occasional good game. His stuff is too weak and if his command isn’t perfect he will get hit. Especially if a team is disciplined enough to not offer at his split finger.
Going forward, if you are going to use him, it should be as a spot starter against weaker teams who are going through a tough stretch like Cleveland. I would never throw him against the Sox like Girardi did last time, he could have switched Colon and Garcia in the rotation but didn’t.
Marquez…
I still believe his previous start was very good against Cleveland on Sunday.
Garcia had a 3.60 ERA going into this game and people are still complaining.
Garcia is painful to watch. Get Noesi up
Nice of Freddy to come with his best stuff today, isn’t it?
Can’t wait for the post-game excuses.
this cubs team only has about 3 of 4 legitimate hitters and Garcia is letting all of them crush him. this is how the Yankees looked against the Rangers pitching
Garcia not looking too good so far.
It’s OK to have a slugfest once in a while….what will the excuses be for the offense not showing up?
I’m complaining because its the Cubs. We should sweep this series no questions asked, and Garcia is the type of starter who can implode and wind up handing the Cubs a win.
This is obviously a blowout in the making. He can’t get hitters out and hasn’t been able to in 2 of his last 3 outings.
With the bullpen burned out, he’s going to have to stand on the mound and take a huge hit to his ERA today.
It’s the 3rd freaking inning!
Yeah, and his ERA is 3.90 now; the league average is 3.92.
the frustrating part is when you look forward to a game and freddy garcia has nothing and loses the game in the first three innings. i guess i can go for my workout now and look forward to tomorrow.
I’m not complaining. I just feel like Garcia could be tipping his pitches.
The sux were crushing balls all over the field against him. They appeared to be sitting soft stuff.
Today looks like more of the same.
This is y Cashman needs to land a front line starter. Garcia has no business being innthis rotation. Stop pointing out his ERA. It’s not sustainable. He has no stuff. Just watch his 2 innings cs Bos in 2 starts
I hate to state the obvious, but I think Freddy is either tipping his pitches or he is losing steam. Unlike earlier this year, this start and his previous start were awful. Not sure how much he is fooling the hitters.
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His last start was 6.2 innings 1 ER
Wow, Freddy sucks today! Really sucks for the fans expecting a good game today…
Garcia is good for what he is…a low cost placeholder. He’ll keep the team in most games and throw clunkers every so often, and eventually will be replaced.
Wow, an out!
This is y Cashman needs to land a front line starter. Garcia has no business being innthis rotation. Stop pointing out his ERA. It’s not sustainable. He has no stuff. Just watch his 2 innings cs Bos in 2 starts
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Dont need frontline.
Get Colon back and let Noesi start.
Garcia is about command. He doesn’t have it. It’s that simple.
Niblick June 17th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Yeah, and his ERA is 3.90 now; the league average is 3.92.
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Apparently some people on this board are extreme fair weather fans, second by second.
“This is y Cashman needs to land a front line starter”
To replace their 5th starter? Really?
Garcia’s stuff looks flat like it did against the Sox. If he can keep it at 3, the Yanks will be fine. They are going to get to Davis.
Garcia isn’t tipping pitches. It’s pretty obvious to see why he’s struggling. He just doesn’t throw enough strikes. How many 0-2 counts does he get? Not many
Michael Kay isn’t mentioning that when Soriano was traded to the Rangers, he admitted he was two years older than he claimed he was. That probably has something to do with making us feel old.
If Marquez is already warming up then why not bring him in before the damage is done? Garcia isn’t going to get better…
“You make good points. Where are they taking about for a new stadium?”
Nothing is set in stone. There is a lot of opposition to the plan as many consider Wrigley to be a landmark. At some point though, you have to put that aside and think about fan safety.
No – he’s just not pitching well today. You’re the one who cited his pre-game ERA. Why did you do that?
Rich in NJ June 17th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Garcia is about command. He doesn’t have it. It’s that simple.
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Exactly. We all know that Garcia has a small margin of error with his lack of velocity. If he’s spotting well, he can be successful. If not, he’s going to have a tough day regardless of team. He’s still exceeding my expectations by a lot.
LGY June 17th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
What about Freddy Garcia makes people panic so much everytime he gives up a run?
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IMNSHO: We’ve become slaves of the radar gun – if a guy doesn’t throw 92 or above we wait for the wheels to fall off.
For a team with a pretty big payroll, the Cubs have a pretty pathetic lineup… They definitely spend money but it’s sad that their team looks this bad. Hopefully guys like Castro can ignite that franchise. It’s always a fun summer when Wrigley is buzzing.
Tyler June 17th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Garcia’s stuff looks flat like it did against the Sox. If he can keep it at 3, the Yanks will be fine. They are going to get to Davis.
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Dead on point. If he holds them to 3 or 4 runs through 6, he’ll have done all you want from your #5 starter.
OK maybe I jumped the gun a little bit.
Perhaps he is not tipping his pitches and just missing location.
What’s killing the Yanks today, however, is not so much Freddy but the no hits off of Davis. That’s unexpected.
Chip June 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
LGY June 17th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
What about Freddy Garcia makes people panic so much everytime he gives up a run?
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IMNSHO: We’ve become slaves of the radar gun – if a guy doesn’t throw 92 or above we wait for the wheels to fall off.
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Burnett throws over 92 and I fully expect the wheels to fall off every time he’s out there haha.
Tyler June 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
For a team with a pretty big payroll, the Cubs have a pretty pathetic lineup… They definitely spend money but it’s sad that their team looks this bad. Hopefully guys like Castro can ignite that franchise. It’s always a fun summer when Wrigley is buzzing.
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They need to clear out the front office IMO
Garcia should know better than to pitch yo Castro. He’s their only bat.
jacksquat June 17th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Niblick June 17th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Yeah, and his ERA is 3.90 now; the league average is 3.92.
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Apparently some people on this board are extreme fair weather fans, second by second.
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Eh, I don’t know about that – I just think we’re more apt to trust a guy who can miss bats rather than a guy who relies on trickery. Because, as we have seen time and again with guys with Garcia’s stuff, if he doesn’t fool hitters he doesn’t have the stuff to overpower hitters.
Dammit! Its the fourth inning and now we have to score all 3 runs against the Cubs closer!
Garcia’s first start against the Red Sox was actually decent. He got hurt by some poor fielding and inexplicably threw Youk a 3-2 fasball with a base open. his stuff in that game was okay, just poor pitch selection in a huge spot
However, there’s very few games where Garcia’s stuff actually looks good. When hitters flail at a 2-0 pitch and pop up, I don’t think that’s Garcia pitching well…it’s the hitter being undisciplined. If the Yankees approach to Garcia was the same as teams like the Indians or Jays, who he pitched well against, we would be KILLING them, not giving credit to the pitcher
Garcia is struggling, but I wouldn’t be as irritated if our offense was raking.
Be patient guys, this game is far from over
Bojo-
I totally agree. They’ve had some bad luck (Prior and Wood could have given them a dominant 1-2 for years) but some terrible signings also (Soriano, Zambrano, even Pena although he’s just there for a year). They are going to make a huge play at Pujols or Fielder this offseason.
Niblick June 17th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
No – he’s just not pitching well today. You’re the one who cited his pre-game ERA. Why did you do that?
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Because that’s the ERA I knew. I don’t follow ERA’s batter to batter. And there were a bunch of people saying that Garcia sucks, Garcia is done, etc.
I swear, some people will only be satisfied with an All-Star/Hall of Famer at every position.
Garcia is the #5 starter and should not need to be shutdown against Doug Davis.
Bottom line is that Garcia has pitched very well for a 4th/5th starter – if he can get the Yankees into the 6th giving up 3 or 4 runs, he’s done his job.
Eh, I don’t know about that – I just think we’re more apt to trust a guy who can miss bats rather than a guy who relies on trickery. Because, as we have seen time and again with guys with Garcia’s stuff, if he doesn’t fool hitters he doesn’t have the stuff to overpower hitters.
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His K/9 is as good as CC’s
why swing at a 3 and 1 pitch down 3 runs?
Davis has a 6 era can they please treat him like that!!! They never hit the guys that throw 70 mph.
yankees ever hit on 3-1 counts?
Stop giving Garcia a pass saying he’s the 5th starter. After apr 1 there is no such thing.
Tyler June 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Bojo-
I totally agree. They’ve had some bad luck (Prior and Wood could have given them a dominant 1-2 for years) but some terrible signings also (Soriano, Zambrano, even Pena although he’s just there for a year). They are going to make a huge play at Pujols or Fielder this offseason.
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Don’t forget the Matt Garza trade not working out well for them (thus far); Fukudome was a terrible signing too.
Stop giving Garcia a pass saying he’s the 5th starter. After apr 1 there is no such thing.
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No team has 5 great starters
LHP Doug Davis (0-5, 5.90) ???? and no hitting the Yankees ? Crazy
These at bats are making me lose my mind. They don’t even have a hit.
Tyler June 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Bojo-
I totally agree. They’ve had some bad luck (Prior and Wood could have given them a dominant 1-2 for years) but some terrible signings also (Soriano, Zambrano, even Pena although he’s just there for a year). They are going to make a huge play at Pujols or Fielder this offseason.
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With their luck, they’ll sign the guy who gets injured right away and is never the same player.
Ace June 17th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Stop giving Garcia a pass saying he’s the 5th starter. After apr 1 there is no such thing.
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Sure there is.
That’s like saying after the first time through the lineup it shouldn’t matter if your cleanup hitter doesn’t have any power because he’s not batting cleanup anymore.
Freddy Garcia’s job isn’t to shut down teams – it’s to keep the Yankees in ballgames.
Chip-
True. Fukudome has been so streaky… He’s started a few season almost at .400 and then hit about .200 the rest of the year. Very hit or miss. It’s strange that he’s actually more popular in Chicago than he is in Japan where ball players are held in such high esteem.
No hitter…there I jinxed Davis
“Stop giving Garcia a pass saying he’s the 5th starter. After apr 1 there is no such thing.”
This is just not true.
I am sure the Yanks would rather face Zambrano and Garza instead of these bums
Well, at least they won’t be no-hit by Doug Davis. So there’s that.
Thank you Cano. Nice simple approach there. They should be stringing hits together against Davis. He has no out pitch.
my knock on Garcia is more about his command than his stuff. Mussina threw an 87-89 mph fastball his last year here, but he was strike 1 on every batter and could throw his offspeed stuff for strikes in any count.
Garcia, for the lack of velocity he has, needs to get ahead on hitters more often. He doesn’t have the stuff to always be pitching from behind like CC can.
Tough to listen to Sterling and Waldman. They sound pissed cause the Yankees are losing. They are making me upset and its only the 4th inning. Got to the Chicago feed better.
Jerkface June 17th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
No team has 5 great starters
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Philly and Oakland came as close as anyone and didn’t get there.
I’m sure Sterling and Waldman are disgusted because they had to deal with 12 innings yesterday and a flight, then a day game today. What a tough job they have.
If Davis lasted through this inning without a hit. I would bet my dog ESPN would have went live to the game for the no hit bid.
Why is Martin reaching for a pitch that far off the plate? I wish they had something better to bat after Cano.
Who would have thought Salty would be better than Martin after Apr.
“I wish they had something better to bat after Cano.”
They have Swisher and his .561 SLG against lefties, but somehow that’s more valuable in the leadoff spot
Shut out by Doug Davis.
Only the Yankees.
Maddening.
“Tough to listen to Sterling and Waldman.”
I can’t remember what it was, but she said something so demonstrably stupid yesterday that even Sterling had to correct her.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports......rew-miller
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God shut the f up Gammons.
No proof at all.
Wow. One of those games where you just have to wonder where these hitters’ heads are at. Getting one-hit by Doug Davis? That’s deserving of the “P” word.
Bojo,
Atlanta braves were close.
No team has 5 good starters? Check Philly.
Ace June 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Who would have thought Salty would be better than Martin after Apr.
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I don’t think anyone expected Martin to keep up that April pace but I honestly think he’s been hurting for about a month… Just doesn’t look totally right.
SoS June 17th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Bojo,
Atlanta braves were close.
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True–was thinking current clubs
no team has 5 good starters? Check Philly.
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Who is philly’s great 5th starter?
Having the pitcher bat may be the dumbest rule in any major sport.
RS June 17th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
my knock on Garcia is more about his command than his stuff. Mussina threw an 87-89 mph fastball his last year here, but he was strike 1 on every batter and could throw his offspeed stuff for strikes in any count.
Garcia, for the lack of velocity he has, needs to get ahead on hitters more often. He doesn’t have the stuff to always be pitching from behind like CC can.
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1. Comparing Garcia to a borderline Hall of Famer isn’t fair.
2. Garcia’s only averaging around 3 walks/9 IP – that’s not awful.
He’s tough to watch – I’ll grant you that. The way he wanders around the mound, he’s almost Steve Traschel-esque in how he slows down a game.
Rich in NJ June 17th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
“Tough to listen to Sterling and Waldman.”
I can’t remember what it was, but she said something so demonstrably stupid yesterday that even Sterling had to correct her.
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Dude its crazy. In the 4th, she got mad cause Tex swung at a 3-1 pitch and wanted some dude name Carlos in the back to count the number of times hitters swing at 3-1 and make outs. What the hell are you supposed to do on 3-1 counts, not be aggressive?
Ace June 17th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
No team has 5 good starters? Check Philly.
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I did. They come up short.
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Lohud E R June 17th, 2011 at 10:47 am
? Great pitching matchups for the Yankees . ?
? We would easily get another sweep . ?
You know what they say about Expectation and Reality in baseball .
Anyone want to bet me that the Cubs? pitchers will pitch shutouts in all three games ?
I will bet you anything .
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Pure Genius .
Freddy is doing his job.
Time for the offense to do theirs…
Alright, please get some runs. I have a feeling if they can just get a couple of baserunners on, Davis will start nibbling and be afraid to throw strikes, but they haven’t been able to mount any sort of rally yet
Time to start stealing bases
Should have Nunez steal first.
Nice start to the inning with Nunez. If Gardy can get on, you can bunt Garcia and have great speed on the paths for the top of the order.
Joe should pull Freddy here. hate to have him hit and then take him out anyways in the bottom half.
Horrible approach by Gardner….screws up the whole inning with a pitcher up next.
god NL play is so annoying. leadoff hitter reaches and 2 pitches later, there’s already 2 outs
LGY June 17th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Having the pitcher bat may be the dumbest rule in any major sport.
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It’s not a rule in a major sport – just National League baseball.
Davis isn’t averaging a lot of innings this year. The Yanks better start hitting otherwise he is going to be around for along time today.
It’s not a rule in a major sport –just National League baseball.
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If you want to argue silly semantics, the National League is part of a major sport therefore the rule is as well.
LGY June 17th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
It’s not a rule in a major sport –just National League baseball.
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If you want to argue silly semantics, the National League is part of a major sport therefore the rule is as well.
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I wasn’t arguing silly semantics. I was mocking National League baseball.
granderson needs to sit offspeed.
A two out hit would be sweet.
Time to pad your MVP creds
I wasn’t arguing silly semantics. I was mocking National League baseball.
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Oh. My bad
Wow. That ball 4 on gameday looked like it was in the box. Got a break?
Here comes some slop down and away
This game is frustrating. Gardy should have let Nunez steal 2 before swinging. AND The pitcher bunting should move man from 2 to 3rd. Need to steal bases.
We just have no strategy at all.
that guy looked like Kevin James
Anyone that supports pitchers hitting is a moron
Granderson has reverted the last two days. That’s worrying.
it’s not just 3 innings any more. time is ticking away
Gotta be tough on a guy like Grandy….three lefty starters in a row. Almost seems like teams set up with lefties on purpose against the Yanks.
watching this lineup today is like watching 9 pitchers “hitting.”
LockDown June 17th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
This game is frustrating. Gardy should have let Nunez steal 2 before swinging. AND The pitcher bunting should move man from 2 to 3rd. Need to steal bases.
We just have no strategy at all.
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NL baseball is different. One of the reasons why interleague can be pretty bad. These teams are not suited to the other leagues style. Most NL teams do not have a quality bat on the bench to DH.
Granderson looks like the old Granderson today against lefty slop…More of the usual for this team against a garbage pitcher throwing 70 mph with a 6 era.
this lineup feels really short today. they’re missing Jeter’s great numbers against lefties and Posada’s hot bat
Can we use C.C. to pinch hit for someone?
This game is a joke. Did this pathetic group just get off the plane? WAKE UP!
FYI. Cubs back end is good. Have 6 outs to score
freddy is about to do his job
Garcia’s settled down. Now if only the bats could make some noise.
Garcia’s bounced back well, this game isn’t on him right now.
Seriously. Score some runs.
This game is a joke. Did this pathetic group just get off the plane? WAKE UP! 2 damn hits??
Ace June 17th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
FYI. Cubs back end is good. Have 6 outs to score
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Marmol’s stuff is electric but he can be off at times. If he’s on though, he’s as good as it gets.
I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I feel pretty confident in saying Garcia probably gets the worst run support on the team
LGY June 17th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I wasn’t arguing silly semantics. I was mocking National League baseball.
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Oh. My bad
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NL is the only league, at any level, nationally or internationally, that has the pitcher hit. And the reason is because NL owners don’t want to raise their payrolls by having to employ another hitter rather than an extra bench guy.
Their minor league teams use the DH, they use the DH in spring training. It’s time for them to conform with the rest of the world and time for the traditionalist yahoos to stop whining that the AL needs to change. It would be like saying the entire world needs to drive on the other side of the road because that’s how the British do it.
guys like Davis get pounded by aggressive hitting teams, but if they have any command at all, they can get through the Yankee lineup because they’re given an automatic strike 1
Garcia, like Colon, didn’t forget how to pitch when they got hurt. Garcia had to change his approach afterwards, while Colon, thanks to black magic of stem cells, didn’t. Greatest couple of million the Yankees ever spent.
watching games like this, i wonder why any pitcher would throw a fastball to these guys.
stay offspeed and you hold the yankee bats down.
why are we swinging at such bad pitches??
NL is the only league, at any level, nationally or internationally, that has the pitcher hit.
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The NPB has their own NL league that has pitchers hit (central league)
Dang, Tex is like 0 for his last 9 now the last two days.
Keep it at 3 and anything can happen still.
Why is Tex reaching for ball 3??!?! This is pathetic.
I think that is the furthest Tex has hit the ball the past two days.
Pitchers hitting should be abolished forever. They should just implement the DH, its not like teams have to use it. They can simply let the pitchers hit and not designate anyone to hit.
Looks like we have a substitute teacher here today, the children are misbehaving……GB, you hanging around ???
Tex swings at ball 3 and Arod swings 2-0 at ball 3. Just embarrassing against a pitcher who is dreadful and everyone pounds.
This is utterly embarrassing
Arod’s not hitting the ball to RF/right center anymore
tomingeorgia June 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Garcia, like Colon, didn’t forget how to pitch when they got hurt. Garcia had to change his approach afterwards, while Colon, thanks to black magic of stem cells, didn’t. Greatest couple of million the Yankees ever spent.
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I wonder if the Colon procedures would benefit Garcia this off-season…He was a true ace when he had the 95 mph fastball…a dominant pitcher IIRC
I admit that I don’t have as much patience for losses as I did when I was a kid, but you gotta be kidding me here. Have to show up with more than this against this clown
These clowns look like they have no clue how to approach Doug Davis, who has nothing. There’s just no excuse for them to be dominated by this slop. None.
So far – an embarrassing and pathetic performance by the Yankees against a really poor pitcher. I sure hope we rally and win this.
Doug Davis sucks… Just evidence of the Yankees hitting inconsistence
The game isn’t over. If they keep it at 3, they’ll win.
They have 2 hits lol
Davis probably can’t believe that he has lasted this long against the Yankees
Maybe the Yanks just feel sorry for pitchers with 6+ era. Yesterdays extra inning pitcher was at 6.9 and now CY Davis. I guess going through all these Aces for the past 2 weeks kind of screwed them up.
I thought for sure this would be a 7-5 game.
Yanks mustve cleaned out the booze cabinet on the flight out celebrating their Texas sweep.
Probably high-giving saying “we got Doug Davis tomorrow!”
LMFAO @ this team….. Seriously, we can’t F’in hit him. We have 2 unimpressive hits and that’s it! Can’t believe how pathetic they look at the plate against this scrub
If MLB still allowed “greenies” in the clubhouse coffee, today would have been the perfect day for the line-up to have a cup or two of the good stuff.
Baseball was always meant to be played with the pitchers hitting. It’s the DH rule that is not the norm – not the other way around.
Garcia is doing his job. If he and ‘pen hold out the rest of the way, I think the Yanks can rally. But regardless, it’s been a pretty futile effort against a guy who has been pounded all year (and for most of his career). They aren’t even making great contact.
Only thing more annoying than watching Yankees struggle against a bad pitcher (it happens) and then reading this blog during a game like this is listening to John Sterling call that game. Uggggghhhhh. “You just can’t predict baseball Suzyn” Over and over and over.
These guys are asleep out there today. Very disappointing.
Baseball was always meant to be played with the pitchers hitting. It’s the DH rule that is not the norm – not the other way around.
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And it used to be 10 balls to a walk and foul balls didnt count as strikes and blah blah blah. The DH rules and pitchers hitting is disgusting to watch. Should be changed.
Bojo, Colon’s comeback from shoulder injury at his age is amazing. If this stem cell/plasma treatment turns out to be legitimate, it will be as revolutionary for baseball as Tommy John surgery was. I’ve read a little about it, bu don’t know if Garcia could benefit.
Was baseball meant to have west coast road trips, WC?
Great tag by Nuney
No one is probably more surprised by Doug Davis’ performance than Doug Davis.
The at bats by the 2-3-4 hitters today have been just awful.
It’s an all or nothing offensive team.
here we come
“These guys are asleep out there today. Very disappointing.”
Not like that’s anything new with this team. They seem to pull one of these every week. Monday they were shut out by Carlos Carrasco. But yeah, today is a new low.
Should bring back the reserve clause too.
They never hit these guys that throw slop so this game isn’t surprising. But a team shouldn’t have to play a day game after arriving in that city late at night. It’s not an excuse because they should pound this guy even in their sleep but the other team does get an advantage.
And amphetamines.
garcia did his job, now is the offense turn to pick it up
This appears to be one of those “going through the motions” games to open up a road trip.
And 1 umpire so sneaky base runners can cut over to 3rd across the diamond.
West Coast Yankee Fan June 17th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Baseball was always meant to be played with the pitchers hitting. It’s the DH rule that is not the norm – not the other way around.
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Yeah and if you weren’t white you weren’t allowed in the big leagues either. Not everything from the past is better.
And the DH is the norm now.
And no black players.
It’s the way baseball was meant to be played!!
Bring back the deadball era tia
This might qualify as the most boring game of the year. Seriously. Even the broadcast feels like all of the air has been sucked out of it.
No one will hit .300 this year….that means a lot of outs. Two blow outs against Texas, and then 3 runs in the last 16 innings. Pathetic.
Chip and LGY FTW!
The next time they go on a road trip they should actually bring the bats with them
we can’t get any luck
Tex hitting 250. Adrian gonzalez hitting 347. How does a player like that just fall into their hands?!
Castro probably has a 95 mph FB.
So tired of tv guys making excuses for Cano, he is hot dogging it out there, lack of hustle on bunt play lastest example, if Girardi had any stones he would take him out and let Pena finish the game
As Pat M. was saying Castro is impressive.
Doug Davis. Lol. Hr or bust lineup.
Shut out by the douchey face of doug davis
Smaller gloves, baggy pants, shorter bill on the cap, high socks and id appreciate it if they can go back to what ticket prices were back then.
With the speed both of the pitchers throw this is like watching slow pitch softball except the teams stink at hitting.
3 turns thru the order and this guy is still Warren Spahn.
No one will hit .300 this year….that means a lot of outs. Two blow outs against Texas, and then 3 runs in the last 16 innings. Pathetic.
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You realize AVG doesn’t measure outs right?
The Tex average thing is going to be a big, big problem for a long time.
A Jones probably PH’s from the right side if Brett reaches.
Ugly
Gotta tip that hat.
*mutes tv*
only 2 hits and both were ground balls. guys make better contact off MO than the the Yankees have been doing against this scrub
You can have whatever opinion you care to on the DH. End of discussion.
Another game where the Yanks can’t seem to hit a pitcher they face for the first time. :-/
Wow. Everyone hits the ball on the ground — except Gardner, who thinks he’s Babe Ruth. Nice.
I’m smelling some cap tipping post game comments.
good news: Martin threw out another runner trying to steal.
Everyone knows that the offense can score 10 runs when the pitcher has nothing. But the other games when the pitcher has good to decent stuff or they just can’t get anything going has been very frustrating. Their offense this year would get totally shut down in the post season. They are awful at manufacturing something. Losing 1-0 to Carrasco and 3-0 to 6 era Davis shows how one dimensional and overrated the offense is.
they are sleepwalking.
bad performance almost no hard hit balls..
bad bad effort…..
This game is boring. And the pitching is painful to watch. Slow junk from both sides
Yankees are saving all their hits and runs for national t.v.
Fox tomorrow
ESPN Sunday
duh!!
“Adrian gonzalez hitting 347. How does a player like that just fall into their hands?!”
Because he came from their farm team in San Diego. Padres have been giving the Sawx whatever they need for years. A few years back they traded an all-star 2nd baseman (Mark Loretta) for a backup catcher.
Only positive….Garcia keeps the bullpen rested after an extra inning game.
yankee44 – this is davis’ 7th start against the yankees in his career.
Just when you think they are breaking out of and about to show some consistency on offense, they have a game like this.
We just have to accept this is what the offense will be on here. Maybe with the Phillies pitching they can get away with it, not with guys like Garcia. Nova, Burnett, etc. making starts for you.
“You can have whatever opinion you care to on the DH. You can have whatever opinion you care to on the DH. End of discussion.End of discussion.”
FTL
I hope Unka Joe tucks them all in bright and early this afternoon so they’re awake tomorrow.
“This game is boring. And the pitching is painful to watch. Slow junk from both sides”
NL fans love games like this. Can’t imagine why…if I’m going to watch a pitcher’s duel at least give me Sabathia and King Felix
Didn’t San Diego even send them the fat slob Doug Mirabelli for a glorious return to catch Wakefield? ESPN ranked it as the fourth greatest moment in sports history.
The Tex average thing is going to be a big, big problem for a long time.
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Exactly and his swing won’t age well either. I would like to see him put the team on his shoulders more often instead of just blending in.
I am listening to this game and working out…suffice to say, the Yankees are not motivating me but rather putting me to sleep….
and no free agency
“A few years back they traded an all-star 2nd baseman (Mark Loretta) for a backup catcher.”
And less than a month into the season, the Padres traded him back to Boston for nothing.
The person we need to be tipping our caps to is Garcia. He has kept us in reaching distance and not worn out the bullpen.
The Yankees will make the playoffs because no one else is good enough to make the Wild Card. So there’s that.
But the pitching is too weak and the offense too wildly inconsistent to make any noise.
Just an awful effort by the offense today against a really bad pitcher. At least Garcia settled down.
Despite being done and awful Garcia goes 7 with 3 runs. Pretty good.
Great play by Cano.
Garcia has actually pitched quite well despite the early hiccups.
good news- Yankees have a very good record the day after getting shut out
7 innings 3 runs from Garcia.
Maybe people will stop spazzing out everytime the guy gives up a run.
Davis is coming back for the 8th…no confidence in bullpen?
Another pretty outstanding effort by Garcia.
Any pitcher has a good day against the yankees and the offense is terrible again… any time a bad pitcher beats them they “can’t beat pitchers they should” any time a good pitcher beats them they “roll over against goodpitching”.
Seriously.
Get. A. Grip.
I don’t know what game you guys are watching but Davis just pitched the best game he has in probably 2 or 3 years, he made no mistakes… that shuts down any offense, not just the Yankees.
Garcia is like CC at times, struggles early but then shuts it down after.
YankeesInk If Davis was pitching against the Red Sox he’d be down 7691-0 and in need of Depends right now.
LOL
Garcia would have owned on the 07 or 09 team
On this team, he is probably a .500ish pitcher.
“mutes the idiots on this blog”
Garcia-Nice job. I was very critical early, but I was proven wrong.
Way to go 7 after the rough start to the game.
RALLY!!!
Davis has topped out at 85 mph. I’m sick of the inconsistency of this team. This is a disgrace. I can hear the bull already about “tipping our cap to the opposing pitcher…” Shove it. 2 hits are UNACCEPTABLE. Wake up!!
Truth be told, this is the kind of pitcher that Jeter could probably mash. LH, slow stuff.
“YankeesInk If Davis was pitching against the Red Sox he’d be down 7691-0 and in need of Depends right now. ”
Davis’ worst start this season came against – surprise – Boston.
No runs against Davis? Pitiful. Truly pitiful.
It’s amazing some of you muster the energy to wake up in the morning without complaining about it and calling your life “over”…
yankees hope to get to jeff s.
DFA
How many times must I see A Jones looking at strike 3
Glad we have Andruw to hit against these “tough” lefties.
Good thing we still have Posada sitting on the bench…oh wait, we probably won’t get to that spot in the lineup again
Andruw is the new Austin Kearns…..doesn’t make contact, but Girardi will find a way to get him in every single game.
Shut out baseball by the ace Doug Davis….
That wasnt a very good call. A high and away breaking ball gets called a strike? Whatever
Posasa should have PH. Good point.
OK, come on, runs………….
again, no idea why anyone would throw us a fastball ever.
Yankees must have misplaced the dfa papers and cant seem to find them.
Did anyone expect anything else though, when they saw the ERA of these Cubs pitchers?
We would have been better off facing hard-throwing, wild RHPs like Garza and Zombrano over someone like this.
One thing these 3 Cubs pitchers we’re going to see have in common – they don’t allow a lot of HRs.
first well hit ball of the game
time for the middle of the order to build a rally
The Cubs announcers are going on and on about how good Davis was when in fact, the story is how bad the Yankee hitters were.
And another lefty…..when will we ever get a righty? I guess Marmol….yesterday was nothing but lefties too.
It’s a good thing that Binder Joe gave Andruw all that playing time this past week, so he could be well prepared to take strikes.
Yanks tie this game…….Great fan support here today, an all time high ……
Score some freakin runs
Andruw Jones is past his expiration date. I know Girardi and Cash are “trying to see if anything is there” but I think it’s obvious the only thing there is a strike out.
1.95 e.r.a.. So this would be the Marshall that everyone here has been raving about.
Kei Igawa once threw like 5 shut out innings against the Red Sox, sometimes bad pitchers pitch well. I brought up the Colorado series in 07, that is when I really learned to just accept that the Yankees won’t beat everyone that sucks. Shoot, Kenny Rogers in 06, every yankee in the lineup had a career OPS over .850 against Kenny, and they got shut out or whatever. Sometimes a bad pitcher has his day.
NFW
that almost hit the ground
The ump is as an a-hole.
Grandy missed his pitch on 1-1 there.
How is that a strike? Davis had a gigantic strike zone today and Garcia didn’t get that big zone.
Losses are only painful because Boston wins every single night. It wasn’t so bad when they were losing in April, but they just went 9-1 on an A.L. East road trip. We need to just focus on the fact that we have a 3 game wild card lead and go from there.
Irreverent Discourse June 17th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
yankee44 – this is davis’ 7th start against the yankees in his career
My bad. The way they’re hitting today it sure seemed to be following their 1st time vs a starter trend
Screw Boston, it’s June.
All of these pitches are in the strike zone according to PitchFX, some of you need to get your eyes checked.
On May 20th, Davis pitched at Fenway. His line? 3.2 IP 7 ER 8 Hits 3 BB. Final score 15-5.
Today’s effort by the Yankees is pathetic.
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2011
I dont like judging people but the picture of Marshall looks like a killer on espn gameday.
how is he not looking slider/curveball ?
The rest of today’s blog discussion will be called “Let’s Play GM” and talk about how we’re going to get Marshall.
Another ugly at bat from Granderson
It’s amazing to me that the same people that bash the “stat-geeks” for not watching the came… can’t watch a game… can’t tell when pitches are strikes, when pitchers are just having a good day… or go 2 at-bats without freaking out.
0-4 with 3 strikeouts. That’s the way to nail down that MVP award.
0-7 with men on base?
We’ve had 7 men on base?!
Face…..You make too much sense for this audience…..Pissing in the wind
Adrian Gonzalez is going to be the MVP, barring injury.
“0-4 with 3 strikeouts. That’s the way to nail down that MVP award.”
You’re a very weird guy.
On May 20th, Davis pitched at Fenway. His line? 3.2 IP 7 ER 8 Hits 3 BB. Final score 15-5.
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No pitcher who ever got bombed by the yankees pitched well against the red sox
Will someone tell those Cubs fans to please be quiet. The Yankees are trying to sleep here!
A-Gon went 0-3 on Wednesday, he can’t be MVP.
We’ve had 7 men on base?!
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no but sometimes we have left people on multiple times in one inning.
Kenny Rogers in 06, every yankee in the lineup had a career OPS over .850 against Kenny, and they got shut out or whatever. Sometimes a bad pitcher has his day.
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jerkface,
Every pitcher needs to invest in quality shoe polish before a playoff game.
thank god….
hope!
Good. Come on, Alex.
“no but sometimes we have left people on multiple times in one inning.”
Oh, got it. I knew the offense wasn’t so potent that they have SEVEN baserunners in eight innings
Teix really has a terrific swing RH.
Finally!!!
this is good.
the closer will have to go more than 1 inning.
Go Tex!! At least they won’t get shut out…Quade is playing this game like it’s a play off game with a 2 run lead.
Im calling it right now. Arod hits an Abomb right to PatM.
Marmol throws 55% sliders
Please work a walk ARod–let Cano hit a 3 run homer
Marmol has allowed only 4 HRs in his last 180+ innings. He is sick.
Take the walk, don’t swing for the fences
They’ll win it in the 9th.
A-Rod isn’t really the guy we had two years ago that you want up in these situations.
Drat!
Alex guessed wrong that entire at bat. I don’t know how he didn’t swing at that 4 pitch.
The Yanks can continue telling everyone that Arod is healthy but I am not buying it. I think he needs a DL stint.
Rich in NJ – I just have never liked the DH. It’s a reasonable position held my many. As for not wishing to continue wringing the topic to death; when idiots here start posturing that the exclusion of African-Americans from baseball is somehow analogous to whether of not there is a DH, it’s time to shut it down as far as I am concerned. Perhaps you can take it up with the National League.
Arod has been a shell of himself the last month or so…
A-Rod may not be 100%, but if they thought a DL stint would fix it, they’d do it.
A-rod’s last 31 games: .303 .370 .533 .903
A shell
Whether Alex is injured or not is irrelevant as far as that last AB went. He had at least 2 hittable pitches that he didn’t swing at. I don’t see how his hip hurting him affected his judgement on those pitches.
Ayala is great in this role – keeping the game close when we are down.
The Yankees scored 27 runs during that TEX series. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that the bats have quieted down.
Arod always struggles against guys he sees for the first time. He didn’t have any video to review of how Marmol pitched to him. If he gets another at bat against him, I bet he connects.
Cano should be able to see and hammer Marmol’s slider
why is our bullpen so much more consistent than our offense?
WC
Here’s what you said:
West Coast Yankee Fan June 17th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Baseball was always meant to be played with the pitchers hitting. It’s the DH rule that is not the norm – not the other way around.
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When one pretends to know how the game was meant to be played, they leave themselves open to having to counter how much the game has changed, including who was allowed to play it. That’s just reality.
Try to be patient draw some walks here
If you watch Arod often you can clearly see he doesn’t look like himself. Girardi has sat him more than usual and he didn’t look good scoring on a double the other day. Your eyes tell you more than just looking at numbers for everything. But that was just a bad at bat not health.
Jerkface June 17th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
A-rod’s last 31 games: .303 .370 .533 .903
A shell
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JF,
You remind me of a guy that used to post in hear many years back called Hmmm. He always seemed to get peoples facts back in line. Keep up the good work.
Cano hacks at everything. Bad matchup against Marmol, who is wild.
“when idiots here start posturing that the exclusion of African-Americans from baseball is somehow analogous to whether of not there is a DH, it’s time to shut it down as far as I am concerned”
i think the point of that comparison is if you want to defend not having the DH, argue it on its own merits and not just give the excuse, “well that’s how it’s always been”
you have to be kidding
that would happen against us
What an a-hole, Reed Johnson, unbelievable.
Jerkface June 17th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
A-rod’s last 31 games: .303 .370 .533 .903
That’s still .053 less than his career OPS. Hardly as shell, but less than he was.
F Johnson.
That sucked
strike zone all over the place
Of course he catches that they have no luck today…
Martin would make a great BUC. half-kidding
Now I remember why I hate Reed Johnson.
That’s still .053 less than his career OPS. Hardly as shell, but less than he was.
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It might be a bit much to expect A-rod to continuously hit up against his career OPS this late in his 30s. 4 of his years in NY have been under that career OPS.
No way Soriano makes that catch.
could have been first and second, nobody out
Here is Posada’s chance….
Posada has this…. right? right?
“It might be a bit much to expect A-rod to continuously hit up against his career OPS this late in his 30s. 4 of his years in NY have been under that career OPS”
Probably, but what he did in April gave me hope.
Wasn’t Reed Johnson with TOR? I remember him from somewhere.
Come on Jorge!!!!!
If Jorge hits a HR here NONE of you can complain about him for the rest of the season.
Has the wind died down yet?
How many more games like this do we have to endure before Jesus is here?
Po Po is due.
If Jorge hits a HR here NONE of you can complain about him for the rest of the season.
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This seems like a bad deal
In a battle of ears, I feel Marmol beats Jorge.
Marmol is very wild but it probably helps him
Not a lot of good options to PH for Ayala
G. Love June 17th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
If Jorge hits a HR here NONE of you can complain about him for the rest of the season.
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Ha! Like that would happen! (the not complaining part)
guess everything this guy throws is a strike
Ok, resume complaining about him.
Not a lot of good options to PH for Ayala
C.C.
I would leave Eddie in. People don’t hit HRs off Marmol at all – he allowed only 1 last year and 1 so far this year. The way to beat him is to take advantage of his walks/wildness.
Probably, but what he did in April gave me hope.
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I know, and I’m sure he is capable of doing it and they may get 1 or 2 1 OPS seasons out of him again.
What is Po looking for?
i just don’t understand how Posada swings at one slider that was always off the plate, and lets one go that was a strike the whole way
The Yanks are going to use the “we haven’t him before” excuse a lot against these NL teams
O.K. Gardner is due.
Let Brian Gordon hit!
Good thing we have our power hitting left-fielder up.
who was the last awful pitcher to shut the red sox down?
WC: What would you like? Andruw Jones to be in there instead?
“Good thing we have our power hitting left-fielder up.”
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Good thing we have our power hitting left-fielder up.
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lol. You’re such a troll.
No, not AJ.
I guess Dickerson huh. Maybe draw a walk for Swish.
now a gapper ties it.
Good hitting by Gardner…You know the guy who sits so we can watch Jones strike out 3 times a game.
Terrible job by Arod today.
Cleanup hitter going 0-4 against Doug Davis.
Kay works in the fallacy of the predetermined outcome more than any other human, living or dead.
I wish Montero was pinch hitting here.
that was a hittable pitch
Overmatched to the max.
LGY – if you like having a left-fielder like Gardner good for you. don’t. He’s a good ballplayer that’s getting better but he’s not my long-term idea of a left fielder.
the fallacy!!!
“LGY – if you like having a left-fielder like Gardner good for you. don’t. He’s a good ballplayer that’s getting better but he’s not my long-term idea of a left fielder.”
Keep moving the bar.
I hate when these guys take pitches right over the plate and then swing at garbage
A BUO is their biggest need.
Dickerson and Posada stare at pitches right down the middle of the plate and swing at sliders a foot off the plate
Dickerson hasn’t played a full game in a long time. It’s hard to send him up in that spot. But they have no one else…
For all the negative nancy’s. Pretend we won 2 of 3 vs. Texas and proceeded to win this game today. Mind over matter.
“How many more games like this do we have to endure before Jesus is here?”
According to harold camping, he’ll arrive Oct. 22.
wish we could get Hinske back
Let this one get away. They really should have pounded Davis. Take the next 2 though and it’s a successful series. These type of games can be tough for the Yanks. The Cubs play amped up as they usually have nothing to play for. Burnett’s start is huge tomorrow.
Garcia wins that game, 2 out of 3.
In the off-season we all said, “all Garcia and Nova need to do is 5IP 3ER and let the offense take care of the rest.” Inexcusable to let Garcia’s effort go to waste against a junk baller like Davis. Since the next two Cubs pitchers have 5+ ERA’s I guess this weekend will see our offense revert back to the Detroit series.
Just one game and it’s not a huge deal….but probably the worst loss of the season considering how bad the Cubs are and how awful Doug Davis is.
“Garcia wins that game, 2 out of 3.”
not with the run support the Yankees give him. this was just a typical Garcia game. Remember the 2-1 loss against the Mets and Dickey?
Yanks looked flat, tired.
uneventful game, get em tomorrow.
Cubs are a good baseball team. They are even tougher to beat @ Wrigley. Did anyone really think we were going to sweep them? As with any series, the goal is to win 2\3, especially against quality teams. You knew they would get up to play us and they always have the inherent advantage as the home team in these 2 PM games after the other team flies in the previous night.
Rich in NJ June 17th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Kay works in the fallacy of the predetermined outcome more than any other human, living or dead.
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Also, when Kay worked in radio, he used to describe the Yankee uniform ad nauseam at the start of every game. He even did this during the first year of YES broadcasting.
I wanted to do bodily harm to him. Sometimes I still do.
Sorry, but not buying the excuse that the Yanks had to fly in last night. they played a day game yesterday — 12 innings, but still, it’s not like they had to fly across country. There’s no excuse for this offense getting dominated by doug davis.
Game theory at work in the dickerson AB. He is a bad hitter, and so against a wild pitcher like marmol the fan thinking is he should try to work a walk because he isn’t good and won’t get a hit. Dickerson is probably thinking something similar, especially getting off the bench for what has to be the first time in a few weeks or more. Marmol dumps 2 fastballs down the middle to put him 0-2. Imagine if he had unloaded on one of those fastballs? If he makes an out he gets killed for ‘trying to be the hero’ when he is a backup backup. If he gets the hit he is the hero, but his game theory strategy was to play to expectations and Marmol got him.
Let this one get away.
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Gotta have it before you can let it get it away.
Cubs are a good baseball team. They are even tougher to beat @ Wrigley.
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The Cubs are 29-40 and 16-20 at home.
They are really, really bad.
Also, when Kay worked in radio, he used to describe the Yankee uniform ad nauseam at the start of every game. He even did this during the first year of YES broadcasting.
I wanted to do bodily harm to him. Sometimes I still do.
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I love this, most radio broadcasts are horrible at setting the stage. Jon Miller & the Texas radio team are actually very good at doing this so when I catch them on XM its a treat. Far too often radio men fail to tell me who is pitching or at the plate, and getting descriptions of the field/uniforms really helps build the mental image.
Tyler makes a great point. Today was the Cubs W.S. Unfortunately just another game for us in the span of 162. Thats the way it goes.
Cubs are a good baseball team. They are even tougher to beat @ Wrigley
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This is true except that they’re one of the 5 worst teams in baseball and have a losing record at Wrigley.
good news did not use the pen much.
tommorrow is a new day
bad stuff today. hopefully jorge had a nice view of that pitch right down the middle.
arod again nothing. #’s on the year are not horrible but he is not playing that good………..
gardner is still hot. andruw jones still sucks and cannot even spell or say the words offspeed pitch.. he is just horrible, with the continues smirk/smile………….
more talk about the park, blah blah blah. how about scoring 1 run against 1 of the worst starters in baseball…
Beaten 3-1 by Doug Davis and the cowardly Cubs…not at all what I expected. I know you can’t win them all but our last 11 games have been a real roller-coaster ride. Swept at home by the Red Sox and then 6-1 in the next seven games, which include a horrible 1-0 loss to the Indians. Just how exactly who and what is this team?
Yankees, in recent years, have been very spotty in interleague play, outside of 2010.
2009: Lost 2\3 at home to the Phillies and Nationals. Lost a series to the Marlins on the road. A Castillo pop-up from losing a series to the injury depleted Mets at home.
2008: Got swept by the Mets at home. Lost 2\3 at home to the Reds. Lost 2\3 to the Pirates on the road.
2007: Got swept in Colorado. Lost a series in SF. Lost a series to the Mets.
2006: Lost a series to the Mets and Nats.
I’m glad we don’t have to listen to Kaye gush about Wrigley anymore this weekend.
I want to resist jumping on the negative bandwagon, but why is it that this team so routinely gets shut down by mediocre pitchers?
this game wasn’t exactly full of missed opportunities. the only player who reached third base was Grandy when he scored from second. I almost look at this game as a bad blowout that you just have to put behind you. Hopefully the offense comes out strong early tomorrow
Ugh. The cubs. Seriously?!?
Just how exactly who and what is this team?
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This team plays a game called baseball, which is the most unpredictable sport of all.
Gardner is now tied with Tex for the highest OBP on the team.
Gardner should leadoff every game, enough with the Swisher experiment.
One more hackneyed Kay trademark: Frank Catalanotto was born in Smithtown
The Cubs are awful. The Yanks have to be at the top of their game when they play teams like this who are bad and have nothing to play for. Of course they are going to play all out like Reed did driving for a ball. Everyone wants to beat and impress the Yanks.
According to some of you the Yankees should win every game they play.
One more hackneyed Kay trademark: Frank Catalanotto was born in Smithtown
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A new one:”Put it on the left side.”
Where did he hear that one?
At least we know he will drop it eventually as he does most of his shtick.
“I thought our guys had some pretty good at bats. Hit some balls hard”
LOLGirardi
“Just how exactly who and what is this team?”
Exactly what they have showed. A team with a streaky offense and pitching that generally gives the team a chance to win, except when they face Boston and they get rocked.
I wouldn’t go looking for 07-09 or even the pre-August 2010 offense. Look at the post August offense as the barometer. Things should pick up now that PO has gotten the bat going a little, but will drop once Jeter comes back too.
They have the potential for an excellent pen though.
we’ll get them tomorrow
Kay and Jones are both tabloid reporters who like to hear themselves speak.
mick,
not every game but when you face a horrible pitcher on a bad team you should win the game when your starter gives up 3 runs
Not gonna lie.
I was really expecting a sweep.
“According to some of you the Yankees should win every game they play.”
the crazy thing is, every game they play is winnable. they’ve had like 3 blowouts all year. but that’s what makes it so frustrating to watch them. With the run differential they put up, they are underachieving record-wise
“I thought our guys had some pretty good at bats. Hit some balls hard”
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I wonder if Penilla would have said the same thing?
“Cubs are a good baseball team. They are even tougher to beat @ Wrigley”
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“This is true except that they’re one of the 5 worst teams in baseball and have a losing record at Wrigley.”
Hilarious! Facts can be a b**ch.
I was really expecting a sweep.
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2 out of 3 would be nice especially since the Yanks aren’t facing their 2 best starters. Zambrano and Garza haven’t been great but they can shut anyone down. Especially Zambrano considering the Yanks haven’t seen him.
“I was really expecting a sweep.”
After seeing 3 soft tossers with 5+ ERAs and a bottom 5 offense, who wasn’t?
Especially Davis – considering how we crush lefties, who the hell expected this?
The team has been playing very good lately, after a series win like last night it is natural for the team to have a little hangover plus the late night trip to chicago. I’m sure tomorrow it’s going to be diferent, besides it was bound to happen that davis had a good showing we only had the tough luck to be the opposing team on that good day
“According to some of you the Yankees should win every game they play.”
the crazy thing is, every game they play is winnable. they’ve had like 3 blowouts all year. but that’s what makes it so frustrating to watch them. With the run differential they put up, they are underachieving record-wise
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Baseball seems to be playing different as of late. Could be the post steroid era, or perhaps a more pitcher based organizational strategy. In either case it seems that there’s less scoring this year and that a lot of pitchers have gaudy ERAs.
Still can’t win every game.
I really have no idea how you score 1 run off Doug Davis.
Lost 144.00 on the game, wonder if Nick ib SF jumped on the game……The line looked real good…..Time to catch bird to Chi-Town
2 of 3 is acceptable in this series….anything less is really a disappointment.
“2 out of 3 would be nice especially since the Yanks aren’t facing their 2 best starters. Zambrano and Garza haven’t been great but they can shut anyone down. Especially Zambrano considering the Yanks haven’t seen him.”
Yanks have actually faced Zambrano twice. I’m sure guys like Swish, Tex, Martin, Jones, etc. have seen him more often having played the Cubs more. These guys have seen Davis too, but not for a few years.
As I said earlier, they probably would have been better off facing guys who throw hard and are wild like Zambrano and Garza rather than a guy who junk’d them to death. they would have been in the pen sooner considering how wild those guys are.
For those of you too young to have experienced Steinbrenner in his heyday, this is the kind of game that would cost a manager his job. He would blow his top, say he was embarrassed, and that the team wasn’t playing for Girardi. LOL, it was a soap opera!
Peter Gammons is accusing the Yankees of tampering with the guy who threw the greatest inning of all time (Andrew Miller ).
http://www.riveravenueblues.com
Dempster’s ERA is ugly be he is a pretty good pitcher. He has had a weird season.
AJ needs to step up tomorrow. Can’t lose 2/3 to the Cubs.
What is this “late night flight” crap? Yesterday’s game was a day game. First pitch 1:05, game lasted 3:44. It’s a two-and-a-half hour flight. How late did they arrive in Chicago? Seems like nothing more than a poor excuse for yet another day when our offense just sleep-walked through the game.
why are they making a big deal about this being Granderson’s “homecoming?” didn’t he come to Chicago all the time when he was with the Tigers?
The Yanks would be much better facing Garza…..he throws fastballs and they’ve seen him before.
blake June 17th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Peter Gammons is accusing the Yankees of tampering with the guy who threw the greatest inning of all time (Andrew Miller ).
http://www.riveravenueblues.com
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I heard he struck out 3 batters on one pitch.
Congrats to Doug Davis the ace
He got his 1st win of the year today
Now let me go throw up…
Captain Clutch June 17th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Congrats to Doug Davis the ace
He got his 1st win of the year today
Now let me go throw up…
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Make sure to tip your hat first and throw up in that.
Tomorrow is another day and another game…see you then.
It seems like as good a way as any for teams to beat the Yankees is to just get the most mediocre pitcher you can find …..that they haven’t seen much before…..and have them just go out and throw them as much slop as possible.
Technically the Yanks didn’t even score their one run off Davis
I’m glad I wasn’t able to watch or listen to the game….saved me a lot of grief…
Davis ‘s first win since May 5……of 2010.
It seems like as good a way as any for teams to beat the Yankees is to just get the most mediocre pitcher you can find …..that they haven’t seen much before…..and have them just go out and throw them as much slop as possible.
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Bodes well for the playoffs???
blake,
Im affraid of what can come next. Teams putting their 4th outfielder to throw junk against us? Tampa will use their secret weapon named Damon.
LGY,
They have hit good pitching well this year aside from the devil (Josh Beckett)…..
SOS,
they probably wouldnt touch Damon……they’ve never seen him before.
For every no name that pitches a good game there are 2 that get torn apart. I wish every team would throw a stream of no names at the yankees
Seriously – Doug Davis? For this team, it’s always one step forward, two steps back. They simply can not get on a good winning streak – I mean 5, 6, 7 wins in a row. The offense just goes cold at times.
Blake-
We can always hope that the Brew Crew take down the Sux tonite.
Marcum(2.68 ERA) vs. Lackluster.
And The Banster is going for Trenton.
Betsy June 17th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Seriously – Doug Davis? For this team, it’s always one step forward, two steps back. They simply can not get on a good winning streak – I mean 5, 6, 7 wins in a row. The offense just goes cold at times.
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I agree with you on that point. The long winning streaks have evaded this team thus far. Maybe they will come. I think we are a very good team this year but not a great one.
yea I’m sure Marcum will hold the Sox to under 5 runs tonight
New Thread ==>
A “Doug Davis’” baffles the Yankees a handful of times a year and a bunch of people here overreact. Today was one of those days.
MTU,
That’ll be an intersting series….the Brewers can hit.
Im starting to see why Cash wanted Gordon…..to keep him away from other teams of course…..he would have no hit the Yanks…..not only have they not seen him before…..nobody had.
2 runs or less
-Red Sox: 14 games
-Yankees: 10 games
LGY said:
“2 runs or less-Red Sox: 14 games; Yankees: 10 games”
This is a bit misleading because of those 14 games the Red Sox scored 2 or less, 9 of them came in the first 32 games of the season, when they were really struggling. And Boston’s won two of those 14 games, whereas the Yanks have not won any of their 10.
Beyond that, the Yanks have scored 3 or fewer runs 21 times this year (we’ve won 4 of those), including 6 times this month (out of 15 games). Which, of course is maddening because they’ve also put up double digits in a number of games recently too.
Boston’s been held to 3 or fewer 18 times, but 11 of those were in the first 32 games, only 7 in the past 36.
All in all, the numbers for the Yanks are actually a bit better than what they were last year, when they were held to 3 or fewer in 54 games, a full 1/3 of the season. This year, it’s 21 out of 68 games played, but it’s been happening more frequently lately.
What this all means, I guess, is that everyone struggles at certain times of the season. It’s just really frustrating when it happens against someone like Doug Davis.