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Postgame notes: “It looked like a piece of cake for him”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Jun 20, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

After the longest outing of Ivan Nova’s young Major League, the focus in the Yankees clubhouse seemed to be on Nova’s eighth pitch of the night. It was the one pitch that cost him a run, but it might have been his biggest pitch of the night.

There were no outs, runners at the corners and the defending National League MVP had just fouled off a first-pitch fastball. That’s when Nova went to his changeup for a run-scoring double play that started a string of 22 of 24 batters retired.

“The last couple times, I wasn’t throwing too many changeups, maybe one or none in a game,” Nova said. “Tonight, we started with changeups to their third and fourth hitters, the power hitters, because you don’t want to let them hit your fastball. I started mixing from the beginning, and we kept doing that through the end of the game.”

Nova leans heavily on his fastball and curveball, and both are good pitches, but when he was struggling a month ago, it was his reluctance to throw anything beyond those two pitches that got him into trouble. He had to mix it up, and tonight he did that. Russell Martin said it was the first time he remembered Nova having both a sharp curveball and a sharp slider, and Joe Girardi was thrilled to see his 24-year-old going to the changeup, especially against left-handed home run hitters in a homer-friendly ballpark.

“It’s impressive,” Girardi said. “We’ve seen this kid take some steps forward and do some really good things for us, and we’ll continue to work with him and try to teach him. And I think he’s learning on the way. That’s what you do when you’re a young starter, you take what you did the last start and try to learn from it. And I think he’s doing that. He’s making adjustments as he needs to make adjustments.”

Nova didn’t walk anyone tonight, and after those back-to-back singles that opened the bottom of the first inning, he allowed just two more hits the rest of the way. He’s not usually a strikeout pitcher, but he struck out a season-high seven, including the last batter he faced on a nice breaking ball on the outer half.

“He looked poised today,” Martin said. “It looked like he felt confident even though he had to battle that first inning. After that, it looked like a piece of cake for him.”

My audio of Nova is awful — he was standing right underneath a speaker that was blasting some song I’d never heard — so here’s the Martin audio. He’s always pretty good at talking about his pitchers.

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• Alex Rodriguez came out of the game just because Girardi wanted to get him off his feet, but Rodriguez admitted that he’s feeling a little banged up lately. “I feel okay,” he said. “Just okay. Nothing north of that, that’s for sure.” He said the shoulder’s not a problem, he’s just played a lot lately, and Girardi said he’s planning to have Rodriguez in the lineup tomorrow.

• Rodriguez said his diving play at third base didn’t bother his shoulder. “A lot of guys are banged up,” he said. “It’s part of the long summer. I don’t think there’s a guy in Major League Baseball that feels 100 percent right now. I’m no exception.?”

• One advantage to having a former National League catcher behind the plate for an interleague series: “When I got here, the first thing I asked (Martin) was, ‘Do you know the hitters well?’” Nova said. “He said yes, so I didn’t shake any time. I trust my catcher, so whatever the sign was, I just threw it.”

• Nova acknowledged that he thought about this ballpark’s reputation while he was throwing in the bullpen pregame. He was especially focused on staying down in the zone, keeping hitters from elevating in a homer-friendly park. “He’s a tough guy to evelvate the ball on because he’s got so much movement,” Martin said. “And for the most part he keeps his fastball down. He’s just really a tough guy to elevate, so when you’ve got a guy who keeps the ball down like that, you’re not really to worried about the long ball.”

• Girardi said he never really considered sticking with Nova for the ninth inning. Nova had already thrown more innings than ever before, and Girardi didn’t want to send him back out there at 105 pitches. Nova said he was surprised to be taken out and thought he could have finished it.

• Girardi’s plan in the ninth was to stick with Luis Ayala until a runner got on base, then he wanted to go to Boone Logan to face a lefty. Logan hadn’t pitched since June 12. “We wanted to get Boone in a game,” Girardi said.

• Logan hit Votto with his first and only pitch, but Girardi didn’t indicate any thought of no longer using Logan. “It’s not what you want to do, but we’ll move forward,” Girardi said.

• After Logan put a second runner on base with no outs, Girardi said it was a no-brainer to go to Mariano Rivera, even though there was another lefty coming to the plate. At that point it was a save situation. “It’s his job,” Girardi said. “That’s what we have him for, and that’s what he’s done for a long time.”

• In a homer-ballpark, the Yankees did most of their scoring with a series of singles — and one double — in the first inning. “I thought our guys were ready to hit right from the start,” Girardi said. “Nobody tried to do too much. There’s all this talk about this ballpark being a home run ballpark. Our guys just took what they gave them, hit hard line drives and we scored runs.”

• Girardi said the decision to replace Jones with Brett Gardner was strictly for defense and had nothing to do with the ankle injury or Jones not running out the play.

• Nova was hilarious talking about his first big league at-bat. He said the first fastball looked like it was 100 mph. “The first pitch he threw me was 85,” Nova said. “The second one was 90-91. I was like, ‘What the hell? What are you trying to do with me? Keep throwing 85.’ I got a chance to hit and pitch in the big-leagues, so I’ll take that. It was a really good experience.”

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134 Responses to “Postgame notes: “It looked like a piece of cake for him””

  1. Jerkface June 20th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Nova had a really good game, showing what kind of potential he has. I wish he could K 7 guys every night, I’d feel a lot better about his long term prospects.

  2. Betsy June 20th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    I don’t think he’s an ace, but he’s surely better than a #4 or #5……and I still think Ks are overrated. There are pitchers out there with relatively high K rates who just aren’t very good.

  3. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:00 am

    luis June 20th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
    I hate to do this WCYF and VY, you should calm down< i dont know what your beef with bojo is, but you should cut it out. It seems that you have a fixation with him and believe me its not funny, you should sitck with byour baseball opinions i give the guy a break. Its tiresome! Its baseball blog for gods sake

  4. Betsy June 21st, 2011 at 12:01 am

    As to AJ, he’s just not very good….he’s ok, that’s it. At some point, the Yankees really need to develop their own pitching so that they don’t have to keep signing these types of pitchers; they never have any stability in their rotation

  5. Jerkface June 21st, 2011 at 12:01 am

    I don’t think he’s an ace, but he’s surely better than a #4 or #5……and I still think Ks are overrated. There are pitchers out there with relatively high K rates who just aren’t very good.

    There may be some pitchers who stink and K guys, but look at the ERA/FIP/WAR/Whatever pitching leaderboards and find me all the guys that are in the top 30 that don’t K guys. In the top 35 by ERA only 8 guys have a K/9 under 6. And only 2 have a K/9 like Nova’s and both walk significantly less batters and pitch in huge pitchers parks.

  6. Pat M. June 21st, 2011 at 12:02 am

    BoJo….I was one who went on the record about Nova being a ROY Candidate…I still stick by this

  7. Niblick June 21st, 2011 at 12:04 am

    “We wanted to get Boone in a game”.

    We wanted to get Jonesey some at bats.

    Sigh.

  8. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Interesting note that Nova has both a curveball and a slider, plus a change. Love the change on the lefty power bats.

  9. Betsy June 21st, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Jerkface, maybe, but Nova doesn’t have to be a top pitcher (consistently in the top ranks re: ERA) to be good. I don’t want to go overboard – I don’t think he’s going to be great – but he should be a good pitcher for a long time.

  10. LGY June 21st, 2011 at 12:07 am

    Nova has no shot at ROY with the way guys like Pineda, Hellickson, and Britton are pitching.

  11. Jerkface June 21st, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Jerkface, maybe, but Nova doesn’t have to be a top pitcher (consistently in the top ranks re: ERA) to be good. I don’t want to go overboard – I don’t think he’s going to be great – but he should be a good pitcher for a long time.

    Ok but your assertion that strike outs are overrated don’t really jive with reality, so if Nova is going to be one of the better pitchers in the game he can’t really do it without striking guys out. He’d have to really cut down his walk rates to even be a good pitcher for a long time, since by not striking anyone out he is at the whims of the defense behind him/baseball gods and you can easily eat a bad season when guys get lucky on balls in play.

    Thats why the slider he developed in the spring is important, and his curve, because the slider was a legit strike out pitch and the tight power curve he threw today is a real weapon.

    Basically, strike outs aren’t overrated. They are the best result a pitcher can get.

  12. Vineyard Yankee June 21st, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Nova pitching well. Colon comes back and regains his form. Hughes rebounds from his dead arm issues. Soon Girardi may have to choose who his # 5 will be. A nice problem to have.

  13. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Yeah Pat

    If Noesi is better than Nova, we’re in business. ROYs back to back.

  14. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Pat, I’ve always liked Nova, but, have liked Noesi better. Nothing wrong with having both of them. The only real difference between them is strikeouts and Nova’s about a year or so ahead in upper level experience. Early injuries sort of derailed him. I wouldn’t trade either one, but, as of now, Noesi may be more suited to bullpen work, but, not permanently. Hughes, going forward will be just fine and sandwiching him between the two in the rotation may be best. nova and Noesi are too much alike.

  15. BoJo June 21st, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Pat M. June 21st, 2011 at 12:02 am
    BoJo….I was one who went on the record about Nova being a ROY Candidate…I still stick by this
    _
    As I recall, I and a few others agreed with you.

  16. Jerkface June 21st, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Wang was so awesome because he not only had a very good sinker, but he pounded the zone with it and rarely walked guys. Nova doesn’t yet have that kind of control. If he finds it that’d be great, as his fastball can be electric.

  17. BoJo June 21st, 2011 at 12:11 am

    And I think you recently started agreeing with me about moving Nunez to RF IIRC.

  18. BJK June 21st, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Girardi’s plan in the ninth was to stick with Luis Ayala until a runner got on base, then he wanted to go to Boone Logan to face a lefty. Logan hadn’t pitched since June 12. “We wanted to get Boone in a game,” Girardi said.

    ————————————————————————————————–

    And then you let him throw one pitch. That should really help with any rust.

  19. 4 NYY June 21st, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Nova surprised the H out of me. I thought he would get hammered for sure. I do believe the big difference was the change and more curves that he got over the plate along with no walks.
    That’s how he got the most K’s ever. I don’t understand how the brass could not see that he needed to throw those pitches more. If he continues this, he’ll look like a real M L SP IMO

  20. BoJo June 21st, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Jerkface June 21st, 2011 at 12:11 am
    Wang was so awesome because he not only had a very good sinker, but he pounded the zone with it and rarely walked guys. Nova doesn’t yet have that kind of control. If he finds it that’d be great, as his fastball can be electric.
    __________
    I thought Wang was actually getting better with an increased arsenal (added a slider and a 4 seamer IIRC) before his injury. Still a dark day for Yankeee fans when he was injured.

  21. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Noesi is eating up too much time on the 25 man roster to be a ROY next year.

  22. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Noesi is eating up too much time on the 25 man roster to be a ROY next year

    —————————–
    Damn, you’re right.

    Fantasy trips on reality.

  23. Betsy June 21st, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Jerkface, I agree that Ks are the best result you can get, but I would rather a pitcher not strike anyone out and have the repertoire that Nova has as opposed to a guy who all he can do is strike people out………

    Nova throws hard and has a very good arsenal – and he has chutzpah, which I admire.

  24. Pat M. June 21st, 2011 at 12:17 am

    BoJo….I know that, and the point that was being made that night back in February was that he’s going to be a keeper……Noesi might have the better tools as GB has been pointing out and he’ll be a factor as the season moves along…..If he can backup Robertson then the pen might not be as vulnerable as I feared……Nunez will spell Andruw Jones in the near future

  25. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Looks like the termites have gotten to Beckett again, he’s too sick to make tomorrow’s start. Aceves gets the call.

  26. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:20 am

    Pat, I wouldn’t rule out Laird getting a crack at some left field time either, unless they bring in Parraz. Parraz isn’t a real power hitter, but, he can on occassion. Good glove, good bat and some speed.

  27. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Chutzpah – love that word.

    We should establish a chutzpah quotient for the Yankee players.

    Leading the pack
    Granderson – I’m a little guy and I hit HRs
    CC – Teix has a Gold Glove, I don’t cover first

  28. Betsy June 21st, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Bo knows, I like saying it, lol – the Yiddish language has quite a few “fun” words, lol.

    I meant that I like that he will protect his teammates – not every pitcher will do that (and he showed that he’s not intimidated in his debut last year).

  29. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:26 am

    I have to say that tonight Nova was really impresive, showed a good repertoire of FB, 2sfb, CB, SL and CU. Granted the reds where a bit impatient but nevertheless the kid navigated that very dangerous line up with ease. If he can learn to repeat his delivery and have more consistency with his offerings he might have a very long and succesfull career, he could become a good #3 maybe a #2 hurler.

    One of the things that impress me the most was how he handle both Votto and Bruce

  30. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:28 am

    I think Martin deserves a lot of credit for the Nova outing, per Nova himself.

  31. Bronx Jeers June 21st, 2011 at 12:29 am

    Granderson’s a little guy?

    Pedroia. That’s a little guy.

  32. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Luis, the impressive part is how bad the middle of the line-up and all of those left handed hitters looked. I thought that Bruce and Votto might tag him, but they looked as inept as the others did.

  33. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:31 am

    GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:20 am

    the other day i was arguing with my brother who is a red sox fan that on paper the redsox might be a better team than the yankees, but i told him that the redsox had no deph, i told him that i wasn’t sure they could keep up if they had a couple of injuries to their pitching staff, i think we are about to find out

  34. Vineyard Yankee June 21st, 2011 at 12:33 am

    Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:28 am

    I think the Martin factor is overlooked, with all the SP’ers not just Nova. The other day Lincecum made a remark about Posey being the same way related to him.

  35. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Betsy

    Love the Yiddish as well.

    Favorite words gonif and schlemiel/schlimazel plus the black humor.

  36. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Ooops…Luis already brought up votto and Bruce. With a larger lead, maybe Girardi gives nova a shot at a 4th time against them. Next start like this, and a better lead, I think he gets the 9th inning.,

  37. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2011 at 12:35 am

    I don’t doubt that Martin helps pitchers, but the comparison this season is Cervelli, whose manic/hyperactive/whatever in addition to his poor defense only helps to undermine them.

  38. BoJo June 21st, 2011 at 12:36 am

    LGY June 21st, 2011 at 12:07 am
    Nova has no shot at ROY with the way guys like Pineda, Hellickson, and Britton are pitching.
    _________
    Isn’t “no shot” a bit strong? What if he goes 10-1 with a 3.00 ERA in second half?

  39. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:36 am

    GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Exactly! the guy had a nasty change up and a big curveball, if he can throw them consistently
    he could be really good

  40. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:37 am

    Pedroia. That’s a little guy.

    —————————

    Hobbits don’t count.

    Give him feisty – sit on the curb and dangle your heels – all the short jokes.

  41. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:39 am

    ILuis, I haven’t looked at the Boston box to see how well Miller pitched, and I like aceves, but, not sure that I’d lean on him for a lot of starts, nor on Wakefield. They’re getting seriously thin there right now, and those two in the rotation is going to really weaken and overwork the pen. Lester isn’t quite was he was last year, either. He’s still really good and I’d trade Betsy, LGY, The Jerk and Little Ricky for him straight up.

  42. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:40 am

    Someone mentioned that Nova is 6 and 2, 3.3 ERA in his last eleven starts, sounds good to me.

  43. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:40 am

    GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Agreed

    I thought Girardi did the right thing on pulling him out as well

  44. Rich in NJ June 21st, 2011 at 12:42 am

    A credible 4th-5th starter that plays for the minimum is invaluable to a team like the Yankees with so many top heavy veteran contracts.

  45. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:44 am

    GB7,

    He did ok for his first start, throwing 96 with relative good control but he fell apart after orlando Hudson of all people hit a homer with two on. But after that in the seventh the redsox scored 10 runs if i’m not mistaken

  46. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:45 am

    No issue pulling Nova out tonight. Just didn’t work out as planned. Nova seems to have cured himself of the dreaded 5th-6th inning hiccups and now getting deeper into the 7th inning. A;ways a good sign. Still amazes me that of the oddest pairing of team mates, the oddest would be Nova and burnett. Can there be two more unevenly suited friends? Exact opposites, but, it’s working well.

  47. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:45 am

    By the way i’ll throw a couple of balls as well to secure that trade, lol

  48. Bo knows June 21st, 2011 at 12:47 am

    There’s a kid on the Yankees whose name is Ali Jesus Castillo. Now his mother had chutzpah

  49. Ghostwriter June 21st, 2011 at 12:50 am

    Jerkface June 21st, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Ok but your assertion that strike outs are overrated don’t really jive with reality, so if Nova is going to be one of the better pitchers in the game he can’t really do it without striking guys out. He’d have to really cut down his walk rates to even be a good pitcher for a long time, since by not striking anyone out he is at the whims of the defense behind him/baseball gods and you can easily eat a bad season when guys get lucky on balls in play.

    Thats why the slider he developed in the spring is important, and his curve, because the slider was a legit strike out pitch and the tight power curve he threw today is a real weapon.

    Basically, strike outs aren’t overrated. They are the best result a pitcher can get.
    ================================
    Nice post. Based on what we’re starting to see from Nova’s development, I think that we can expect to see his K-rates rise over time. Nova does have swing-and-miss stuff; he just has to work on working in his other pitches, like he did tonight. One thing that I’ve noticed about Nova is that he does seem committed to improving. Earlier this season, the knock on him was his inability to go deep into games, and in his last several starts he has gone deeper into ballgames. There are going to be ups and downs in his developement, but the trendline thus far seems to be up.

  50. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:51 am

    just looked at the Boston box. Miller did ok for a first start, but, that bullpen, outside of albers didn’t do so well. A better team than SD would have hurt them a lot more than 2 runs and 5 hits in two innings.

  51. tyanksfan36 June 21st, 2011 at 12:51 am

    GB

    Here is the stuff on Romanski. No average pitch speeds because they dont have a radar gun set up at their stadium.

    Josh Romanski was dominant like I said before. Overall he pitched 7 innings, giving up 6 hits and 2 ER. The runs came on a leadoff walk, and with 2 outs he gave up a home run. He struck out 11 batters(9 swinging, 2 looking) with just 1 walk. He threw 96 pitches. 63 strikes and 33 balls. He had 14 foul balls, 17 called strikes, and 18 swinging. He only had a full count on 3 batters. I can tell you that he had 4 strikeouts on his curve and 4 on his changeup and either 2 or 3 on his FB, not sure because the person I asked only gave me numbers for 10 of his strikeouts.

    Poor Taylor Grote went 0-fer. The only player that didnt contribute to the 17 hits. Kyle Higashioka and Luke Murton were hot tonight and Walter Ibarra again hit a home run. Emerson Landoni also went 3-4 with a walk.

  52. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:51 am

    Ghost, jerk

    Both are great posts

  53. Ghostwriter June 21st, 2011 at 12:52 am

    Thanks, Luis!

  54. luis June 21st, 2011 at 12:53 am

    Well… it’s late, good postgame posts all around, good night all

  55. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:55 am

    kershaw just 2 hit Detroit on a walk and 11 strikeouts. Wells and Raburn had the only hits and only base runners.

  56. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 1:00 am

    TY, looks like once again, Romanski wa in total control. he’s deserving of a lot better record, but, as long as he progresses. Not a bad $25,000 purchase and he’s still young. Too bad that his radar guns don’t impress the scouts. He gets completely overlooked. Has Walter intercepted David Ortiz’ shake shipments from home?

  57. G-C June 21st, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Tonight went a long way towards giving me some hope that Nova can be a long term solution in the rotation.

    He’s certainly always passed the “eye test.” But a 37/32 K to BB ratio in 72 innings before tonight didn’t inspire too much confidence. It was really great to see him finally utilize some of that talent effectively and be able to spot his fastball and put away hitters.

  58. tyanksfan36 June 21st, 2011 at 1:16 am

    GB

    I think maybe Walter did intercept the Ortiz milkshakes.

  59. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 1:19 am

    Walter’s making a late push for trenton. I’ll trafe you Pirela for Walter, straight up. In fact, I’ll throw in a Brad Suttle photo and autograph it myself.

  60. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 1:20 am

    I’ll ***trade*** you Pirela for

  61. tyanksfan36 June 21st, 2011 at 1:56 am

    GB

    I heard from a reliable source that Suttle was dating the TY front office. I’ve seen some of those girls. In the words of Kevin McCallister ”

    I heard from a reliable source that Suttle was dating the TY front office. I’ve seen some of those girls. And in the words of Kevin McCallister “Buzz, your girlfriend..Woof!” Haha I’d take Suttle back though. I mean, sending Jose Ramirez back to Charleston helped him, maybe sending Suttle back to Tampa will help him.

  62. tyanksfan36 June 21st, 2011 at 1:57 am

    I don’t know why it copied that first part twice. Stupid phone.

  63. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 2:15 am

    “MEOW”!!!!

  64. Wang IS Taiwan June 21st, 2011 at 2:17 am

    Glad to see Nova pitching so well. He was excellent.

    Yes, I know we won the game, but how assinine is Girardi by going to his “lefty specialist” (WHAT LEFTY SPECIALIST???!) to pitch to VOTTO?

    What an idiot. His moves defies any logic or reasoning. It’s not like they were 10 runs ahead at the time, either.

    Serves Girardi right by having him bring out Logan to “mix and match”.

    GO YANKEES (despite your manager)!

  65. kd June 21st, 2011 at 2:20 am

    pat m called that nova would be rookie of the year. i have to admit, i was skeptical.

    you know what, you throw out three starts and he’s right up there. in august and september pat m might just be right.

  66. Wang IS Taiwan June 21st, 2011 at 2:27 am

    That was not an easy inning for Mo tonight.

  67. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 5:50 am

    Nova has a sense of humor about his at bats.

    “The only downside to Nova’s effort were his three at-bats, the first of his major league career and first, he said, since he was 14 years old. He struck out three times, including bunting foul with two strikes, and generally looked like a man trying to kill wasps with a shovel. “The guy was throwing 90, 91, and I was like, ‘What the hell, man? Throw 85.’ But it was fun.”

  68. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 6:35 am

    Those wild and crazy west coast kids and their keepers.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....in-it.html

  69. Wang IS Taiwan June 21st, 2011 at 6:46 am

    I saw that GB. I would make that kid pay the $36,000 it cost the taxpayers.

  70. upstate kate June 21st, 2011 at 6:52 am

    talk about an over reaction…what a waste of water and money

  71. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 6:55 am

    Kate, one would hope that they pumped that water into a filtering plant….or used it to fill the politicians pools.

  72. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 6:59 am

    They pump nastier water than that from the oceans and send it through desalination plants for drinking water.

  73. upstate kate June 21st, 2011 at 7:00 am

    water is treated before it gets to your tap anyway…I am sure there is a lot of things in our water supply we don’t know about

  74. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:04 am

    I don’t want to know about it, either. I’ll stick with Coor’s and Coca-Cola. Coor’s comes from “clear mountain springs” you know, and of course, the acid in the Coca-Cola will kill anything and cleans battry posts on my car.

  75. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:09 am

    Game story from SWB paper on Adam Warren’s sterling game last night.

    http://thetimes-tribune.com/sp.....z1PuKwGFxD

  76. Wang IS Taiwan June 21st, 2011 at 7:09 am

    Coke is also a excellent marinade for beef. FYI. :)

  77. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:11 am

    I marinade my kidneys and liver with it.

  78. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:17 am

    Her’s Josh Norris’ stories on the two pitchers of interst for them this week. Alan Horne starts on Wednesday and Phil Hughes starts on Friday. Also the new Thunderheads on the team, David Adams returns and Rob Lyerly in from Tampa. Addison Maruszak heads to Scranton to replace Jorge Vazquez, who’s on the DL. His bat is desperately ill.

  79. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:18 am

    Opps. Here’s the link

    http://minormatterstrenton.blogspot.com/

  80. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:20 am

    Uhh. I suppose I should have typed “marinate”.

  81. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:25 am

    Hopefully, Ivan Nova can pitch much better than he has in the next start better than he has in three of the other four games that he’s thrown 100+ pitches.

  82. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:30 am

    It’ll be curious to see how long Ryan Braun is out with the upper respiratory viral infection. as much as I would like to see him hit, I can wait to see him damage some other pitcher.

  83. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 7:49 am

    “Gonzie” may play the outfield in NL parks.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=6683076

    See? It’s not just Girardi.

  84. upstate kate June 21st, 2011 at 7:54 am

    of course if that happens, people will nominate Francona as manager of the year for being creative ;)

  85. blake June 21st, 2011 at 7:56 am

    Gonzie? That’s like plagiarism of a Girardism…….

  86. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Kate, can you imagine if he got hurt and missed aa bunch of time? A very real possibility. he has one professional game in the outfield when he was 23. It’s not like he’ll be hanging around in Fenway. Ellsbury is gonna be very tired after one week.

  87. Mell June 21st, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Gonzie” may play the outfield in NL parks.

    ===========================

    Gonzalez has played one MLB game in the outfield…..and made an error in it. Wouldn’t shock me if maybe he played 2 games in RF and maybe gets a day off during that 9 game stretch.

  88. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:04 am

    blake June 21st, 2011 at 7:56 am
    Gonzie? That’s like plagiarism of a Girardism…….

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I would have thought that Girardi would have had that trademarked. For a Northwestern engineering grad, he’s not very bright.

  89. blake June 21st, 2011 at 8:13 am

    As bad as that Red Sox series was……the Yanks have won 9 of 11 since I believe…..Id say that’s a pretty good bounce back. They’ve played really solid ball aside from that series for close to a month now. Both the Yanks and Sox are on 95+ win paces now.

  90. Betsy June 21st, 2011 at 8:13 am

    GB, at least I could bring Lester back in a trade – you couldn’t bring back the rosin bag he uses. You want to start something? Go pick on someone else at the old age home.

  91. upstate kate June 21st, 2011 at 8:17 am

    ???

  92. ron June 21st, 2011 at 8:17 am

    On wfan this morning,carton saying yankees entertaining trading gardner for pitching.

  93. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Carton is a poster on here. My guess is that he’s either Bret or Chip. That’s a trade that they’d come up with. Yanks could use some pitching but not at the expense of offense and defense.

  94. upstate kate June 21st, 2011 at 8:25 am

    and who are they putting in LF?

  95. Mell June 21st, 2011 at 8:25 am

    On wfan this morning,carton saying yankees entertaining trading gardner for pitching.

    ===============================

    Guess you can’t rule anything out, but that seems unlikely to me. Gardner is a good ballplayer, but he isn’t the type who is going to bring the type of pitching that they don’t already (read: he doesn’t get you a #1/#2 type and the Yankees have plenty who are adequate or more than adequate middle to end of the rotation guys).

  96. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:26 am

    andruw Jones.

  97. Erin June 21st, 2011 at 8:26 am

    ron June 21st, 2011 at 8:17 am
    On wfan this morning,carton saying yankees entertaining trading gardner for pitching.

    ************************

    :?

  98. Betsy June 21st, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Ken Rosenthal asked Cashman about the possibility of trading for an ace and Cashman replied that he was not Ruben Amaro……… I guess he was trying to be funny, but it kind of reveals how conservative Cashman can be. On the other hand, it was a dumb question because there are no aces available to be had.

  99. ron June 21st, 2011 at 8:29 am

    GreenBeret7:

    Don’t even know if it is true.

    Trying to look it up now,nothing on mlbtr.com.

    I just heard it on wfan,early this morning.

    Brett myers name was also mentioned.

  100. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Carton was almost right. He’s entertaining…for about 1 minute.

  101. Yankee Trader June 21st, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Yankee needs:

    Some more consistency in scoring with RISP and in scoring in the later innings.

    A left handed reliever that can actually get lefties out.

    Another right handed bat, if not Nunez, that can play corner OF and some corner infield. Michael Cuddyer came up as a 3rd baseman.

    A healthy Hughes, as well as a return of players on the DL.

  102. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Can’t imagine Myers this year. Whatever happened since last year, he hasn’t been good…not at that price. It would have to be strictly a salary dump and at the nearly $28 mil he’s owed, they’d have to sweeten the deal with someone like Pence.

  103. 86w183 June 21st, 2011 at 8:35 am

    I don’t think the Yanks need to do anything right now. They are playing well and have potential reinforcements on the DL with Jeter, Chavez, Hughes, Soriano, Marte and Feliciano all possibilities.

    Cashman has done a great job of identifying low cost fill-ins keeping the Yanks from having to move any significant assets in order to patch up the MLB club.

    The first thing I would like to see is an upgrade at back up Catcher. Someone who swings the bat better than Ivan Nova would be a nice get.

  104. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Morning.

    Nova climbed a mountain of sorts yesterday so I thought I’d pay him a tribute.

    As promised, here you go Ivan. You earned it.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/cybermrb03/PineValleyArea?authkey=Gv1sRgCJji36a54tmy2QE#

    Great job.

    :)

  105. Yankee Trader June 21st, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Is this rumor about Gardner going to the Astros? Nothing on mlbtr.

  106. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am

    GGBG isn’t going anywhere but into the 1st slot in the Yankee lineup.

    ;)

  107. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am

    The Wedding Of The Century is coming up soon. Ms Piggy is getting married to Cornfed. Best man will be Duckman and the Maid Of Honor will be Marcia Brady.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/wat.....FORM=VIRE7

  108. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:40 am

    GB-

    We need the E and E girls back.

  109. Yankee Trader June 21st, 2011 at 8:40 am

    I doubt the Yankees want any starter with a long term contract, unless it’s a young ace.

    They still need a lefty reliever who can get lefties out.

  110. ron June 21st, 2011 at 8:41 am

    First off,that doesn’t mean gardner is the only player traded for a pitcher.

    The yankees can & will add other player(s).

    2nd off,we are fans & have absolutely no clue who & when someone gets traded.

    We as fans have different oppinions & they change from day to day,even opinions on the same subject.

    Also cashman wasn’t to conservative when he tried to trade montero on at least 1 occasion,maybe 2 or 3.

    Personally,i would not trade nunez,montero,banuelos,betances,maybe a few others unless i know it is a guaranteed upgrade.

    Trades happen all of the time & not 1 of us even come close to predicting who goes & who stays.

    Somebody is going to get traded,more than 1 player.

    Good luck in guessing who.

  111. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Betsy-

    I’m half expecting some team to do a blockbluster deal at the deadline.

    Probably won’t be the Yanks but it’s fun to see what teams come up with.

  112. pat June 21st, 2011 at 8:43 am

    pgammo Ivan Nova is the winningest rookie pitcher. Yankees should get their due on this

  113. Erin June 21st, 2011 at 8:45 am

    GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am
    The Wedding Of The Century is coming up soon. Ms Piggy is getting married to Cornfed. Best man will be Duckman and the Maid Of Honor will be Marcia Brady.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/wat…..FORM=VIRE7

    **************************

    That’s quite the wedding party.

  114. Tom in N.J. June 21st, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Portland must not have any public swiming pools.

  115. blake June 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Is Girardi spearheading this effort to trade Gardner? Then Jonesy could play everyday!

    Seriously though…..it would have to be a really sweet deal for me to include Gardner. He’s a good player and he’s cheap and they have nobody to replace him unless the same trade brings somebody. He’s one of the few guys that can offset some of the other big contracts in the lineup…..

    I do think the Yanks are a good (and probably LH ) SP short of having a good chance at a WS. They can win 95+ games and make the postseason with what they have…..but to optimize their WS chances I think the rotation needs to be better.

  116. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Erin, I hope that Jay Leno broadcasts the wedding.

  117. blake June 21st, 2011 at 8:50 am

    “pgammo Ivan Nova is the winningest rookie pitcher. Yankees should get their due on this”

    And there are more and better ones behind him…

  118. upstate kate June 21st, 2011 at 8:52 am

    Blake please don’t say that even in jest

  119. 86w183 June 21st, 2011 at 8:53 am

    It’s way too early to rule Novaout of the rookie of the year race. He’s one of four AL rookie starters putting up good numbers and while his aren’t the best (actually they’re the worst), it’s not a runaway either.

    Nova 7-4, 4.13, Pineda 7-4, 2.64, Britton 6-4, 3.10, Hellickson 7-5, 3.09

  120. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Blake-

    I agree. Tighten up the rotation for the playoffs.

    So far we’ve got CC, Colon, Hughes and AJ.

    Another strong Lefty would be sweet.

    You are also oh so right about what may lie ahead in the pitching dept.

    :)

  121. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Blake, Pence would never be included, but, Michael Bourn would be a good replacement to take Myers. Nearly the same player.

  122. blake June 21st, 2011 at 8:54 am

    I would have signed up for 7-4 with a era around 4 for Nova at this point in the season in a heartbeat. He’s doing a nice job…..when he repeats his delivery and throws all his pitches for strikes then he’s really good and if he can do that more consistently them his upside is higher than originally thought. Basically he needs to walk less guys and let them beat the ball into the ground when he isn’t able to K them. Martin is doing a great job with him and the rest of the staff as well.

  123. Erin June 21st, 2011 at 8:55 am

    GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am
    Erin, I hope that Jay Leno broadcasts the wedding.

    ******************

    LOL

    I object to this wedding though-the only one Miss Piggy should be marrying is Kermit. :)

  124. Erin June 21st, 2011 at 8:56 am

    blake June 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am
    Is Girardi spearheading this effort to trade Gardner? Then Jonesy could play everyday!

    *******************************

    :x

    #nightmare

  125. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Pass on Brett Myers. We can do way better. And we should target a lefty IMO.

  126. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Ms Piggy can keep Kermit on a string. She doesn’t seem to be the most faithful pig. She’s all about money.

  127. blake June 21st, 2011 at 8:58 am

    GB,

    Is Myers better than what they have?

  128. pat June 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    “And there are more and better ones behind him…”

    Saying one nice thing about a Yankee pitcher was hard enough for Gammons.

  129. Erin June 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    New Post: The most unlikely Yankees starter

    :arrow:

  130. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    New thread ==>

  131. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    The team to watch for unloading expensive players is now LA Dodgers. What a mess. They won’t deal the only two valuable items they have, though. Kershaw and Kemp. Selig would never allow it to go through.

  132. MTU June 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Erin-

    You’re fast on the draw. You beat me by a full second.

    :)

  133. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Blake, last year, he would have been ideal. Something has changed with Myers. Possibly that big contract?

  134. GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 9:03 am

    pat June 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am
    “And there are more and better ones behind him…”

    Saying one nice thing about a Yankee pitcher was hard enough for Gammons.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Could MLB-TV have a more shameless plug than the “Gam Cam”? Sounds like something for Betty Grable in her day.

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