The most unlikely Yankees starter
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 21, 2011 
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Brian Gordon gets it. He knows he’s not the Yankees starter you ever imagined, but tonight he’ll make his second start in pinstripes, and Joe Girardi said the plan is to give Gordon at least a third.
Gordon’s a 32-year-old rookie. He’s a former outfielder, and he had all of four big league innings before his unlikely arrival in the Yankees clubhouse. You think his whirlwind ascent is mind-boggling? Imagine how he feels.
“It really is,” Gordon said. “Absolutely. It’s unbelievable. I try not to think about it too much, because I think you can get too excited. I just try to tell myself over and over, ‘You belong here, so just do your job.’ It’s something that excites me every day just to think about.”
I haven’t talked to Gordon a whole lot, but he’s the kind of guy you enjoy rooting for. He wasn’t perfect in his first start, but he made some big pitches, and he gave the Yankees all they could have wanted. He got the job done.
“It’s been crazy,” he said. “The most change is understanding now how many people are backing me and supporting me. The phone calls I’ve been getting, the support mail I’ve been getting. It’s tremendous and uplifting. Apart from that, I’ve been trying to do the same thing. Not much has been different. My days have been the same: I wake up, eat my breakfast and try to do the same things.”
Sometimes, it’s that simple. I couldn’t do it — you probably couldn’t either — but if you have the talent to pitch in the big leagues, falling into a routine and not being overwhelmed can make a difference. Gordon’s a nice guy. He’s easy to root for, and it looks like he can pitch, too. He’s excited to be here, but it doesn’t seem like he’s overwhelmed to be here.
One other thing: Chances are, Gordon’s going to have his first big league at-bat tonight. He was drafted as an outfielder in 1997, and tonight he’s going to not only start a game for the New York Yankees, but he’s finally going to hit as a big league player.
“That will be kind of neat, to be able to get my first big-league AB,” he said. “It’s kind of funny, if you had told me 10 years ago that I’d be getting my first Major League at-bat as a pitcher, I’d be laughing at you. It’s going to be special.”
Associated Press photo
GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 8:57 am
Ms Piggy can keep Kermit on a string. She doesn?t seem to be the most faithful pig. She?s all about money.
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No question she appreciates the finer things, but she’s always been totally devoted to Kermit
MLB Today’s #ASGClassics memory from @teixeiramark25: “Rounded bases saying ‘Man, I just hit a HR in the @AllStarGame.’” http://atmlb.com/lZxaAw
Going to be interesting watching gordon hit.
Pitch a shutout and jack one out.
Why not ? You’re already riding high. Take it to the limit. A dream come true.
MTU and I want a Lefty
I don’t know, Erin. Brian Cashman got a pretty raunchy letter from her the other day. She thought Cash Man was his nickname.
Maybe Gordon is Aaron Small with power.
This can be a tough lineup and a tough ballpark. Maybe that’s why they didn’t use Noesi in the 9th because he is their third best reliever.
pat June 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am
“And there are more and better ones behind him…”
Saying one nice thing about a Yankee pitcher was hard enough for Gammons.
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Could MLB-TV have a more shameless plug than the “Gam Cam”? Sounds like something for Betty Grable in her day.
Blake-
Nobody hears or listens to us but all we can do is keep tryin’ to get through.
GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 9:06 am
I don?t know, Erin. Brian Cashman got a pretty raunchy letter from her the other day. She thought Cash Man was his nickname.
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See that Colon hasn’t yet been cleared to begin throwing program. Guess that means he won’t quite be ready when his 15 days is up (I believe he is 10 days deep now). Ah well. With things going well, better to play it safe.
Mell-
Not to worry.
The Yankee hotrod is coming to town soon sendin’ flames out of both tailpipes.
Colon out of one.
And Hughes out of the other.
Just watch the quarter mile speed from that puppy.
Had to love Nova’s remarks about his hitting ability last night. ““The guy was throwing 90, 91, and I was like, ‘What the hell, man? Throw 85.’ But it was fun.”
Teixeira’s favorite all star memory
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......393881-996
Had to love Nova’s remarks about his hitting ability last night. ““The guy was throwing 90, 91, and I was like, ‘What the hell, man? Throw 85.’ But it was fun.”
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haha i missed that
MTU — Gordon IS Aaron Small. Have you ever seen them together? He might be able to fool ‘em for a while, but I can’t see him lasting.
The more important thing is the progress Nova is making. It’s actually reasonable to mention him in the rookie of the year race. He’s one of four AL rookie starters putting up good numbers and while his aren’t the best (actually they’re the worst), it’s not a runaway either.
Nova 7-4, 4.13, Michael Pineda 7-4, 2.64, Zac Britton 6-4, 3.10, Jeremy Hellickson 7-5, 3.09
Cashman is doin’ his Otis Redding impersonation right now.
Only he’s just waitin’ for the tide to roll in instead of out.
Biding his time. Knowing good things are on the way and he has the coin of the realm in reserve.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....ner-50828/
“…Yankees’ leadoff hitters are now hitting .423/.559/.654 since Derek Jeter hit the disabled list. In a related stat, the Yankee went from averaging 5.16 runs per game before Jeter’s injury to 6.71 runs per game since. The Cap’n is eligible to come off the disabled list next Wednesday, by the way.”
From MLB-Rumors-R-Us: Potential lefty bullpenners.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
86-
Let’s get him fingerprinted so we know for sure.
The only thing standing between Nova and that ROY is better command.
He has the tools and the team.
Nova 7-4, 4.13, Michael Pineda 7-4, 2.64, Zac Britton 6-4, 3.10, Jeremy Hellickson 7-5, 3.09
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Ain’t quite Secretariat at Belmont, but Pineda is the clear leader right now. Hellickson is running 2nd, IMO. Nova and Britton are very distant 3rds, but having very good years.
From MLB-Rumors-R-Us: Potential lefty bullpenners
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Not a terribly appealing lot.
Charleston put 4 players on the Sally League all star team.
Pitcher, Mikey O’Brien, outfielder Slade Heathcott, Catcher, JR Murphy and 1st baseman Kyle (Holy) Roller. 1st baseman/outfielder, Ramon Flores will replace Heathcott.
There’s almost no way that they won’t significantly overpay for a LH reliever who would be likely a marginal upgrade at best. Of course, if Girardi still insists on using Logan despite the strong facts to the contrary, the value calculus may change, sadly.
And regardless of who they might get, the first failure, you’ll surely be there to remind everyone that you could have made a better choice.
I present facts, son, and if you don’t like it, don’t read my freakin’ posts.
yeah, your “facts”.
There’s almost no way that they won’t significantly overpay for a LH reliever who would be likely a marginal upgrade at best
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Not sure much on that list even counts as marginal upgrades. I say this assuming Marshall isn’t really part of the conversation and that the A’s would seek too much for there two guys. Rest of that list is straight out sad. Probably take Choate from that bunch.
Whatever. It’s too nice of a day to deal with your BS. You’re dismissed.
With $ 8 M “invested” in Marte and Feliciano it’s hard to envision them spending even more.
I’d take a flier on Kazmir for the pen if he was willing to try it. Fastball and hard slider and nothing else. He’s never been able to command off speed anyway.
You’re a pathetic fool, GB.
Again, you have an open invitation to meet me for dinner whenever you like, on me.
JC Romero was placed on relese-waviers last week.
Has he been picked up yet? He’d be a good loogy.
So…How many wins does nova finish with and where will his era be at the end of the season?
14 wins with 4.01 era??
I think the spike in offense has more to do with them facing bad pitching and that Swisher, Cano, Arod, and Gardner have been hitting and that Martin is back than anything related to Jeter. Wilson is about the only good pitcher they’ve faced since Jeter got hurt…..this is by far the worst stretch of pitching they’ve seen this season.
Mell
I’m assuming that the list is merely someone’s guess and that other options may be out there.
Remember. Some righties do a very good job of getting out lefties.
Sort of the pitching version of a reverse split (no pun intended).
There’s always that. Maybe they identify another one of those.
Ironically, the one pitcher they didn’t hit, Davis, may have been perfect for Jeter. A LHP with no velo.
We don’t have that many good posters here anymore…..I would love it if the ones we do have could get along.
Blake-
Shssssh ! Don’t let the cat out of the bag.
blake
I agree, but I can only ignore his bs to a point.
Where did Carton come up with the Gardner for Myers trade rumor ? does someone have a link ?
Play nice boys.
Do I have to start discussing the Muppets again???
He’s not a lefty, but, the best reliever that might be available would by Brad Ziegler, though not against lefties. Breslow might be available, and until this year was death on lefties.
Blake-
That would be ideal but even I am not that optimistic.
Last night was rowdy even after a great performance by SuperNova.
GB
Do you think they still would have promoted Lyerly this week if Trenton hadn’t sent Maruszak to SWB?
We don’t have that many good posters here anymore…..I would love it if the ones we do have could get along.
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Maybe a shot of novacaine to ease one’s pain would help…
Craig Carton? I try not to listen to that show, but in the past, his “rumors” have ranged from head scratchingly crazy to being right on rare occasions.
I don’t think they could trade Gardner without getting a leadoff hitter back.
Do I have to start discussing the Muppets again???
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Your discussion partner(s) flew the coop…
Craig Carton? I try not to listen to that show,
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Trying desperately to make a name for himself through shock tactics.
It ain’t workin’…
Craig Carton? I try not to listen to that show, but in the past, his ?rumors? have ranged from head scratchingly crazy to being right on rare occasions.
I don?t think they could trade Gardner without getting a leadoff hitter back.
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i agree. .. .. . .But .. if they eat some of Myers money and throw in Bourne . . you’d have to at least consider it ?
tyanksfan36 June 21st, 2011 at 9:55 am
GB
Do you think they still would have promoted Lyerly this week if Trenton hadn’t sent Maruszak to SWB?
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Not real sure it would happen right now, but, before the end of the season, yes. I’d guess that you guys will either get Segedin or Roller as a replacement.
Gossip Break:
http://tiny.cc/nc8lg
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Mike Ri
Brett Myers? No way. In his last four seasons, he has had only one with an ERA+ of 100. Gardner’s offense and defense cannot be replaced right now.
I suppose if CamDi would twist my arm, she could hand feed me popcorn or oatmeal…or…
I suppose if CamDi would twist my arm, she could hand feed me popcorn or oatmeal…or…
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your crap?
good point Rich.. I wouldnt’ do it myself.
GB-
Hate to burst your bubble but you’re just gonna have to settle for Anne Margaret.
Cameron is taken.
GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 10:03 am
I suppose if CamDi would twist my arm, she could hand feed me popcorn or oatmeal?or?
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Oh, GB
Dante19jr First road trip! Disney! Leggooo
MTU June 21st, 2011 at 10:06 am
GB-
Hate to burst your bubble but you’re just gonna have to settle for Anne Margaret.
Cameron is taken.
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That’s a tough choice. Annie’s the best, though.
Erin, just trying to get into the tabloid speak.
GB
CamiD could give Betty Grable a run for the money for time on the Gam Cam too.
pat, yeah, she could. actually, always thought that Ginger Rogers had the best gams.
Cyd Charise
GB-
She sure caused a guy named Fred A-Staire or two.
Dog walk time. Later
Well, Rogers and Sonja Henie
I suppose if CamDi would twist my arm, she could hand feed me popcorn .
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GB-
I’m so sorry, but you left yourself open for this reply:
Don’t you need teeth to eat popcorn?”
Tom, did you ever get to one of the Hope Christmas shows?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I think these say Soriano is at Tampa complex doing his throwing program and Colon didn’t have a setback but won’t be ready to come back in 15 days.
Deportes_SIN Rafael Soriano arrivó al complejo de Spring Training de los @Yankees en Tampa para iniciar un programa de lanzar dentro de los próximos días
Deportes_SIN Los médicos no le han dado luz verde a Bartolo Colón p/ empezar a soltar el brazo, parece no regresará justo cuando cumpla los 15 días de DL
Call a guy a pathetic fool then invite him for dinner. Something is amiss to me.
Yankee Trader June 21st, 2011 at 10:18 am
I suppose if CamDi would twist my arm, she could hand feed me popcorn .
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GB-
I’m so sorry, but you left yourself open for this reply:
Don’t you need teeth to eat popcorn?”
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Yeah, but, if she softened up the popcorn first, I could gun it to pulp.
“Cyd Charise”
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am a ‘generation X’er’ but to date, Cyd Charise in the movie Tension (with Richard Basehart) is the most beautiful/perfect woman have ever witnessed on screen. Interior/exterior.
movie stars were movie stars, back then
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pat, I never thought that Colon would be back in two weeks. That’s a lot on hamstring to be pulling.
Beauty wise, back in the day, it was Hedy Lamarr…or was it Hedley Lamarr?
GB-
LMAO. Too much.
I’ve been reading the Author Vince Flynn. If you haven’t read some of his counter-terroism fiction books, your character is definitely portrayed in it. Read his recent book American Assassin and tell me that the character Stan Hurley isn’t you!!
Yeah, I always thought they’ll give Colon some extra time whether he needed it or not. Maybe, after the July 4th weekend or right after the all-star break.
GB-
Gotta run but I thought I put in a quick plug for Carole Lombarde, Kim Novak, and Inger and Stella Stevens.
Thanks, Trader. I’ll need to get a copy of a couple of his books.
It’s Hedy Lamarr and she’s not too “shabby!”
http://www.hedylamarr.com/
Ooops. And Anita Eckberg and Ursula Andress.
Kim Novak was a hottie.
Hedy Lamarr —- Got to agree . . she’s hot … in a old school way .. LOL LOL . . She’s no Megan Fox though . .
Bridget Bardot & Catherine Deneuve
MTU June 21st, 2011 at 10:27 am
GB-
Gotta run but I thought I put in a quick plug for Carole Lombarde, Kim Novak, and Inger and Stella Stevens.
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I’ll go with Miss Crabtree. Alfalfa, Spanky, Jackie and the gang all had the hots for her.
GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 10:24 am
“Beauty wise, back in the day, it was Hedy Lamarr…or was it Hedley Lamarr?”
Kudos on the “Blazing Saddles” reference.
Every time iI see one of Lamarr’s movies, I think of Hedley Lamarr, the Harvey Korman character in “Blazing Saddles”. Has to be in the top two comedies ever.
2 others: Jeannie Crain, Ella Raines,
and from a pure sexual point of view: MARLENE DIETRICH
to me, no one can touch her in this department. Unadulterated sexuality
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GB7,
Never got to see a Hope show. They only seemed to come when I was out in the bushes.
In an interesting note on Hedy Lamarr, she and a friend of her’s did the designs and engineering for what is now wireless internet (frequency hopping). It’s original use was for radio guided torpedoes.
Tom, I got to two of them. ne was because of a run-in with a punji stick, the other was just luck. The first one was with Joey Heatherton. She was a blonde, smaller version of Ann-Margret.
Pat, those tweets jibe with what Chad wrote in the JN.
“Yankee clippings: Rafael Soriano reported to the Yankees complex in Florida on Monday to begin working his way back from elbow inflammation. … Injured starter Bartolo Colon is still not ready to begin a throwing program and Girardi acknowledged Colon might not be ready to return after just 15 days on the disabled list. … ”
http://www.lohud.com/article/2...../106210349
RE Last night’s game: Girardi mistakes: starting Jones over Gardner, then not pulling Jones after failing to run, ankle excuse is bs–Jones, Logan, and Ayala don’t belong on this team–Logan is a complete waste of space. Have to root for Gordon what a great story, hope he does well tonight.
I had a buddy who saw Ann-Margret at Bien Hoa from close-up. He took a few pictures of her with infra-red film. Very interesting evidence that she was truly hot!
Yankees Mariano Rivera, who is now 24 saves shy of tying Trevor Hoffman for the most ever, is the all-time Interleague saves leader with 65.
update on Eric Chavez:
Eric Chavez took batting practice on the field yesterday in Tampa. It was the first time for that. Chavez, who is on the DL with a fractured foot, also took ground balls. Girardi said he is running on a treadmill.
Ann-Margret never got much credit for for talents as a singer, dancer and actress. Only her looks. A very classy lady. I did get her to autograph a picture that I took of her on stage at a camp and a book. Special lady. I had had the picture copied for her tow sign both, but, she asked for one of them. What could I do while looking into those ….eyes…up here, buddy.
***to*** sign both
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/spo.....me_6465110
Joba_62 Countdown has begun til I get my splint off and start wearing this….1 hour left http://t.co/dXqnks1
Watching the game last night reminded me of how many awesome ballparks there are in baseball these days……almost every team now has a great place to play. (Insert Rays joke here).
Its time for Cash to pull the plug on Andrew so that Girardi isn’t tempted to play him……
# Erin June 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
Joba_62 Countdown has begun til I get my splint off and start wearing this….1 hour left http://t.co/dXqnks1
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the road to recovery
Erin June 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
Joba_62 Countdown has begun til I get my splint off and start wearing this….1 hour left http://t.co/dXqnks1
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Amazing how much he’s missed on the mound by some fans…now that he’s not around, huh?
Blake, had Maxwell not been hurt, it might have happened sooner. I still think he’s gone by the ASB.
I like Joba chronicling his rehab.
@mashmore98Mike Ashmore
Alan Horne headed to Trenton. Likely starting Wednesday.
If NYYs can’t find a Jones replacement, Golson could be the replacement, once he’s fully recovered. The other options are Laird and Parraz.
Yep. Horne on Wednesday and Hughes on Friday for Trenton.
Alan Horne has as much Grit As Steve McQueen does in “Tom Horn”.
Now if we could only get Christian Garcia healthy again.
AndrewMarchand Adam Warren threw a 2-hitter @ AAA If Gordon struggles tonight, Warren could be an option for a start. Still needs to develop change further
Whatever will the Wally Matthews do, now that he won’t be tweeting any more. They’ll be crushed.
Unfortunately, garcia is no longer in the system.
Re: Gordon will get his first big league at bat as a pitcher; this assumes he will make it past the first inning or at the very least the second inning.
blake June 21st, 2011 at 10:59 am
Its time for Cash to pull the plug on Andrew so that Girardi isn’t tempted to play him……
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How do you know it’s not that he’s playing him because Cashman wants him to?
GB-
Yeah. I know. Sad case. Talking about Horne brought Garcia to mind.
Some guys just have no luck, or just bad luck.
Correction: Chad correctly stated “chances are,” I must be thinking of Feinsand or Harper.
GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 11:13 am
Whatever will the Wally Matthews do, now that he won?t be tweeting any more. They?ll be crushed.
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who’s not tweeting anymore?
“Whatever will the Wally Matthews do, now that he won’t be tweeting any more. They’ll be crushed.”
Why did he stop?
If he stopped because he was bored with it, more power to him.
If he stopped because people critiqued him, weak. Critiquing other people is what he does for a living so he should take it if he wants to dish it out.
MTU June 21st, 2011 at 11:17 am
GB-
Yeah. I know. Sad case. Talking about Horne brought Garcia to mind.
Some guys just have no luck, or just bad luck.
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Garcia, Horne and Norton. What they might have been if omly….
On the other side. Jairo Heredia is finally healthy and pitching really well at Tampa, and still just 21 years old. he’s been hurt for years.
Roger Ebert should stop tweeting as well
Whatever will the Wally Matthews do, now that he won’t be tweeting any more. They’ll be crushed.”
Why did he stop?
If he stopped because he was bored with it, more power to him.
If he stopped because people critiqued him, weak. Critiquing other people is what he does for a living so he should take it if he wants to dish it out.
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I think about 99% of the responses were obscene. Only 75% were mine.
Nevermind-clearly I’m still half asleep. LOL
Matthews stopped tweeting?? What a loss.
Here’s a question for all of you MiLB experts out there.
Best pure arm in the system right now ? Raw or not. Reliever or not.
Betances
Bryan Mitchell
DePaula (if we can reel him in)
Other ?
Most would probably say Betances. Right ?
Triple Short of a Cycle June 21st, 2011 at 11:24 am
Roger Ebert should stop tweeting as well
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yes
And here’s a tough one.
Best pure “pitcher” in the system regardless of stuff or level, reliever or not ? Most “advanced” approach ?
Banuelos
Betances
Warren
Phelps
Mitchell
Noesi
Other
Etc.
Hope the strong storms stay clear of Great American Ball Park tonight. Making my yearly trip to a Yankee game in a few hours.
Maine,
That’s certainly possible….
GB,
Id prefer Maxwell or Golsen at this point or better yet just let Nunez be an extra outfielder.as well when Jeter comes back .
Right now, probably betances. haven’t seen any videos of DePaula. Mitchell has a chance once he’s healthy. Norton could have been, but the two young bullpenners in Charleston, Daniel Burawa and Tommy Kahnle are special. both right handed and reach 98-99 MPH.
all of the system pitchers. DePaula is not listed.
http://www.baseball-reference......hing.shtml
Just how good was Nova last night – he gave up just 1 run and 4 hits over 8 innings, then Larry, Curly & Mo tried to give away the game with 2 hits, HBP and 2 runs in just 1 inning.
All those that don’t appreciate the players such as Nova and Gardner don’t understand this game. Gardner has the best avg. of starting players and Nova the second best winning record of SP. Given this, there are so many on this blog that want to trade away what’s right with team.
I wish Girardi had a little of Billy Martin in him. When Jones did not run that ground ball out, Joe should have taught him a lesson and pulled him from the game, on the spot. Jones fakes an ankle injury, but stays in the game? Hey Joe, that’s BS, man up and get the slacker off this team.
MTU,
I haven’t seen them all to intelligently comment…..but Noesi has the most polish of any I’ve seen. Banuelos and Betances as still the best prospects but Noesi impresses me every time I see him.
GB,
Have you seen Bryan Mitchell pitch yet?
GB-
Thanks as always for your input. You know as much about the Minors as anyone here.
DePaula is trying to get his papers.
I’ve seen video of him and man is he impressive.
Strapping kid. Big FB and an assortment of other stuff.
Tremendous mound presence for a young kid.
If we can clear up the visa issues and get him going he has the potential to be very, very special.
I agree on Betances as the best pure arm.
And I think that Phelps, Warren, and Banuelos have extremely advanced approaches. Those 3 really seem to know what they doing out there.
I really like Noesi’s combo of command and stuff.
YESNetwork Will Ivan Nova eventually move to the ‘pen? It could be a nice potential problem to have. http://bit.ly/ivhCwP
Consider all the Yankee farm hand pitchers that have had success in the big leagues the last couple of years…..Kennedy, Karstens, Olendorf,.Hughes, Joba, Nova, Noesi. Not bad…..
Blake-
Robertson.
Only a couple of games, Blake. When he was in the GCL in ’09. One good, one not so good, but, WOW. When he adds some weight to that 6’2″ frame, he should pick up the speed. Throws 4 pitches, good command for a 19 year old.
MTU,
Why do I always forget DRob and how awesome he is…..
GB-
Will Marshall regain his status after the TJ ?
And just out of curiosity where would Vizcaino have fit if we had retained him ?
Less Wally is definitely More in this case.
Blake-
D-Rob is the pitching version of GGBG.
Often overlooked and underrated.
He is a gnat’s a*s from completely breaking out.
He’s an effin’ magician out there.
By the way, did you happen to notice that his velo has INCREASED of late ?
If the command was there he would be unhittable.
Blake, Noesi would have been in front of Nova had it not been for injuries. He’s about 1 year behind in upper level experience. Never a full year at any level and only about 20 or 21 starts above High A, I believe. Have to check for sure.
blake June 21st, 2011 at 11:49 am
MTU,
Why do I always forget DRob and how awesome he is?..
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He’s Houdini-he’s supposed to fly under the radar.
MTU,
Fangraphs has his velocity increasing each of the last 3 seasons…..he threw the ball by people at 90/91….now he’s 93-95 with a cutter. He’s just nasty.
GB,
I’ve heard he has a chance to be the best of all of them…..but I know very little about him.
Erin,
Good point. He’s really good though.
Blake-
I have not checked but I would guess that D-Rob has one of the highest K/innings rate of any pitcher in baseball.
It’s think it’s ridiculous good and almost off the charts.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
I love me some D-Rob.
He was a sleeper that definitely came to life. A class guy and an all around winner.
I hope success follows him wherever he goes.
MTU,
I can’t look it up now but he was 2nd a few days ago….at like 16k’s per 9 innings. Which is crazy good.
I have not checked but I would guess that D-Rob has one of the highest K/innings rate of any pitcher in baseball.
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In the AL, yes. In the NL look at Marmol, Kimbrel aand one time Yankee Clippard.
Blake-
Thanks. He just goes about his buisness and doesn’t seek the limelight like some. A down home kind of guy. Doesn’t forget his roots. Grounded. Humble.
He just does his job. Oustanding young man. He deserves a great deal more praise than he gets.
I guess I just gave him some.
Joba_62 Feels really good. Not as stiff as I would have thought. Thanks again for everyone’s thoughts and prayers
YT-
We all know the NL doesn’t count.
I hope any rumors of obtaining Brett Myers are untrue-leads the league in homers-given up!!
Bud Norris would be the only starter on the Astros that would interest me.
YT-
Forget Myers unless he’s become a switch-pitcher.
drob i think has the 2nd best strike out ratio. 1st is the detroit rookie reliever with the unusual name.
noesi and nova at a minimum have a chance to be good pitchers for many years in the big leagues. that barren farm is sure producing quite a few players………….
What ever happened to Venditte?
The Twins are screwed.
Francisco Liriano has won 7 games in a row.
Worth a flyer if they’ll deal fairly ?
YT-
Did he switch careers too ?
Oh, yeah, Mitchell has made a start at SI already. not good, but, that’s to be expected.
Here’s the game story.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo....._broo.html
Venditte is pitching in trenton. He has some good streaks, then a couple of bombs.
GB,
Hedley Lamar was nowhere near the sex symbol that Count De Money was.
To me, Grace Kelly was the most beautiful woman of the day.
Lastly, our old friend Randy Choate actually has pitched well and could be better than Logan.
The Twins are screwed.
Francisco Liriano has won 7 games in a row.
Worth a flyer if they’ll deal fairly ?
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Twins 16.5 game deficit on June 1 is now down to 7.5
Twins may not be sellin’ after all.
Bichette still hitless after four at bats in GCL.
RUMORS – Yankees interested in Wandy Rodriguez, Keppinger.
http://houston.sbnation.com/ho.....nger-myers
Mell-
They will if they’re smart.
They are not gonna jump over the Tigers and Sox IMO.
Besides, this is the max. return time for Liriano.
Yea the stupid Twins just wont die…..I still think they are a long shot to win the division and another spell of bad play would probably take them out of it. They’d have to play really good baseball the rest of the way and have both the Tigers faulter.
Surprised Michael Dunn’s name has not come up as a LOOGY target. Still a little wild, but a power arm.
Personally, I’d like to see Kevin Whelan get another shot since he handles lefties so well.
Mac, you have to wonder if those movies could be made today with all of the PC idiots yammering about stereotyping.
MTU June 21st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Mell-
They will if they’re smart.
They are not gonna jump over the Tigers and Sox IMO.
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Don’t EVER count the Twins out in that division.
Wandy R is not a huge upgrade.
It would depend on what was asked in return.
I prefer higher upside guys like Liriano, Danks, etc. if available.
Wouldn’t want to give up too much for him.
Couple of “B” prospects at most. Wouldn’t surrender Romine for him.
Whelan’s 5 walks in 1.2 innings were a little hard to deal with.
The key thing Rosenthal said about the Wandy stuff is that Houston values him as an ace and the Yankees value him as a back end starter……that’s not happening if that’s true.
RUMORS – Yankees interested in Wandy Rodriguez, Keppinger
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Nunez kinda negates the need for a guy like Keppinger.
Always thought Rodriguez would be a target, but he signed that extension back in the winter. Sort of doubt the Yankees are signing up for $25.5M for the two seasons after this one.
Bojo-
I don’t believe in those kinds of miracles.
They’ve got a long way to got and the Tigers and Sox would have to falter really badly.
The odds are not in their favor this year IMO.
“Alan Horne headed to Trenton. Likely starting Wednesday.”
If anyone deserves some good luck, it’s Horne.
Cashman shouldn’t shoot for lateral moves or marginal upgrades…..they’ll make the playoffs with what they have. If significant upgrades aren’t available then fill holes cheaply and take a shot as is.
Cashman shouldn?t shoot for lateral moves or marginal upgrades?..they?ll make the playoffs with what they have. If significant upgrades aren?t available then fill holes cheaply and take a shot as is.
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Blake . .i agree…
“Joba_62 Feels really good. Not as stiff as I would have thought. Thanks again for everyone’s thoughts and prayers”
Actually, Joba deserves some good luck too. I really like the kid and hope he gets the chance to start after he rehabs.
from Keith Law (re: Hector Noesi):
“We’ve seen a number of prospects who appeared on my offseason Top 100 rankings promoted to the big leagues in the past few weeks, including Anthony Rizzo, Dustin Ackley, Randall Delgado, Mike Moustakas, and Ben Revere. I updated the top 25 on that list right before the draft, including fresh takes on three of those guys, but a few unranked players have reached the majors, some finding regular roles and most worthy of some kind of comment. Here are capsules on six of those players, one of whom stands out, with notes on their eventual ceilings.
Brandon Crawford, SS, San Francisco Giants
Crawford stepped into the smallest imaginable shoes when he replaced the nonfunctional Miguel Tejada at shortstop, and had some Giants fans excited about his bat when he went 4-for-12 with a homer and three walks in his first four games. Since then, he’s hit .169/.222/.220, reaching base just twice in his past nine games, and I think the early optimism has faded. What Crawford does very well is field; he has great hands and good range in both directions, and could easily end up among the top three to five defensive shortstops in the game each year if he gets the playing time. Unfortunately, that playing time will always be in question because he can’t hit — and hasn’t since High-A. He has a soft swing with neither bat speed nor hand strength to give him the chance to make hard contact, and you can beat him with velocity or by changing speeds. The upside here is Adam Everett, but I would probably still bet the under.
Jemile Weeks, 2B, Oakland Athletics
Speaking of crazy starts, Weeks has a .400 BABIP through his first twelve games, producing a gaudy stat line that obviously won’t last. Weeks sharply cuts the bat upward through contact, which would produce power if he was stronger and/or had better bat speed, but unlike his brother Rickie, Jemile only has warning-track power and will hit a lot of long flyouts but not that many home runs — a problem that will only be exacerbated by Oakland’s power-killing ballpark. He’s a much better defender at second than his brother, with much better hands (which has always been Rickie’s main failing) and plenty of range. Beyond his swing and borderline patience, Weeks hasn’t been durable in pro ball, appearing in 80 games in 2009 and 77 in 2010, and his slight build probably doesn’t help matters. (For what it’s worth, he’s up to 57 games already this year, so he’ll set a new career high if he can stay healthy for about four more weeks.) Bottom line: He’s probably an average regular, below-average with the stick but making up for it with the glove, and he may be more of a 120-games-a-year guy than a true full-timer.
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Juan Nicasio was ranked far too low in the initial Rockies org rankings.
Juan Nicasio, RHP, Colorado Rockies
Nicasio ranked just seventh on my preseason Rockies top ten, which looks comically low in hindsight given how good his arm is and how well he’s thrown this year. Nicasio will sit 92-95 mph with good life on the fastball and pairs it with a hard changeup with split-like action and a fringy but hard slider with downward break and some late bite. He has a loose arm and tries to work down in the zone but isn’t consistent enough with his command to be a ground-ball pitcher — or to fool better big league hitters yet. He’ll miss bats with power and will probably miss more bats as he mixes in his off-speed stuff more (throwing over 70 percent fastballs so far, according to FanGraphs), with No. 2-3 starter potential, although that presumes he tightens up the breaking ball too.
Greg Halman, OF, Seattle Mariners
Halman, who signed as a 16-year-old free agent out of the Netherlands after winning the MVP award in the top Dutch league, has huge raw power — Mike Stanton-type power — and is athletic and loose with a good arm. Unfortunately, he is violently allergic to breaking balls, so until he proves he can hit a decent curve or slider, I don’t expect him to see many fastballs unless a pitcher happens to fall behind in the count.
Hector Noesi, RHP, New York Yankees
I don’t get the Yankees’ desire to stuff Noesi — who has long had success as a starter in the minors — into a limited bullpen role, even though they’ve had issues with their rotation. Noesi lacks a plus pitch, and his control is well ahead of his command right now, but there are four roughly average or better pitches there with a fastball in the 92-94 range and both the curveball and slider will flash better than average. He struck out nearly a man an inning two straight years as a minor league starter and at least has the stuff to hold his own in a major league rotation, even if it’s just as a fifth guy for now with a chance to be more of a four or a fringy No. 3.”
Rich,
I wish….but don’t hold your breathe on that one.
The only significant moves I ‘d like to see are if guys like Swisher are the main pieces being moved out.
whoops -sorry – just meant to paste Noesi’s clip.
GreenBeret7 June 21st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Whelan’s 5 walks in 1.2 innings were a little hard to deal with.
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Nerves? I would have liked to have seen him settle in and then see what he has.
BTW–I still don’t get the fascination with middle of order pitchers like Wandy and others mentioned here. I’d be very happy with this rotation and the youngsters to get us to play-offs.
If we were to acquire any pitcher, he would have to be a #2 in the lay-offs behind CC for me to be interested. And I think we already have a #2 in Colon, a #3 in Hughes or Nova, and a #4 in Nova, Garcia or AJ.
The only spot we need IMO is a LOOGY, and aside from Matt Thornton and Craig Breslow, I don’t see anything out there of quality.
Law is a fringy analyst.
With regard to Law, I’d flip Gordon and Noesi’s roles, but the reason they are using him in in the pen is that they have no one reliable after Mo and Robertson.
doesn’t look like Wallace Matthews likes Girardi all that much – but it does sound like he voices a lot of our opinions here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6685783
Now I only picture Nick Swisher in pigtails. Standing next to his not-as-amused father.
“Nerves? I would have liked to have seen him settle in and then see what he has.”
Based on the minute sample, it would be unfair to think anything else.
“Mac, you have to wonder if those movies could be made today with all of the PC idiots yammering about stereotyping.”
Yes if only we could go back to the good ole days of subjugating women and Amos and Andy
Blake-
I’m with you. Decent upgrades or none.
Unless the price is ridiculously cheap for a guy like Wandy (which it won’t be).
Jones should disappear and Montero should replace Cervelli.
The swisher that’s batting .310/.455/.603 in june? That’s the guy you want shipped out?
BryanHoch Derek Jeter resumed long toss on the fields in Tampa today, AP reports. Bartolo Colon also started a throwing program.
# Germfree Adolescents June 21st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
“Mac, you have to wonder if those movies could be made today with all of the PC idiots yammering about stereotyping.”
Yes if only we could go back to the good ole days of subjugating women and Amos and Andy
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Actually, I dunno how many of you have watched any of Tyler Perry’s movies but I dunno that those PC idiots have been doing a very good job…
Mell June 21st, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Nunez kinda negates the need for a guy like Keppinger.
Always thought Rodriguez would be a target, but he signed that extension back in the winter. Sort of doubt the Yankees are signing up for $25.5M for the two seasons after this one.
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I don’t think the Yankees/Stros are on the same page with Wandy. Plus, the Yankees just might be leaking talks with Houston in order to help spread the idea that they’re in the market for a starter so if teams are interested in their players/prospects, those teams must be willing/able to sell a starter who’s not a back end guy.
The Keppinger leak is interesting. If there are teams calling about Eduardo Nunez (and I bet there are) it would serve the Yankees interests to line up a deal for a utility replacement who can step right in and take the place of Nunez.
Nunez could be a player who helps Cashman net a starter like Liriano.
I saw Wandy get BOMBED by the Mets once. We already have an Andruw, do we need a Wandy?!
“Bartolo Colon also started a throwing program.”
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Gordon tonight. I think MLB Network is televising the game. Hope that means Costas and Katt in the booth.
“The swisher that’s batting .310/.455/.603 in june? That’s the guy you want shipped out?”
It’s called selling high.
I believe Wandy Rodriguez just came off the DL-for left elbow inflammation. Looks like he caught Sorianoitis-no thanks. AJ Happ would be a better option than Rodriguez, and even then he’s not an upgrade over what the Yankees already have and lefties hitting >.300 against him.
Shame Spencer June 21st, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I saw Wandy get BOMBED by the Mets once. We already have an Andruw, do we need a Wandy?!
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# Rich in NJ June 21st, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Joba_62 Feels really good. Not as stiff as I would have thought. Thanks again for everyone’s thoughts and prayers”
Actually, Joba deserves some good luck too. I really like the kid and hope he gets the chance to start after he rehabs.
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If he starts it won’t be for this club
Wandy would be a good get. I hope it happens.
Joba_62 Done!!! http://t.co/JJ8Yvsy
MTU,
Yes.
Rich,
I would much rather see Noesi starting also….but its about winning games and they need him elsewhere.
“If he starts it won’t be for this club”
AAO
Probably, but I refuse to lose hope that they will somehow see the light with a guy who, if you look at his complete record as a starter, was better than almost every other starter on their staff over the last few years.
I remember some baseball experts said Joba could possibly return sooner because he’s a reliever now. If he were a starter, the rehab time would take a little longer.
Does anybody know how long Joe Nathan took to return from his TJ surgery?
He’s the one reliever that recently went through something similiar
There aren’t any #1 or #2 Aces available that will be underpriced. Liriano, Greinke, Gio, JJ, Jimmenez, etc. All will be unavailable or demand a king’s ransom–and not worth it.
And while I would love to land a solid lefty #2 starter to help us against Boston, the only one I think who might be available might be Santana–and we all know the issues with that trade.
blake
As long as he is their third reliever, I can live with it. When/if Ayala or Logan are used in higher leverage situations, I scratch my head.
Rich I don’t know if selling high works with a $10m contract
jeter is now long tossing and Colon has begun throwing as of today.
Just not sure how Wandy’s stuff would translate ….I do like that he’s left handed….but Im not sure he’s enough of an upgrade to warrant the price tag if its a significant one. I don’t think the Yanks would want the rest of his contract either seeing as how they probably wont need him in the future.
# Erin June 21st, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Joba_62 Done!!! http://t.co/JJ8Yvsy
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We can rebuild him…we have the technology
Joba_62 FREEDOM!! http://t.co/9gU4dE8
WTP – Nathan still can’t pitch well, the length of recovery didn’t seem to matter in his case.
and http://t.co/ou56BDq
jeezus that looks painful
#1 current Yankee need is a lefty reliever who can “actually” get lefties out and not walk or hit te 1st batter they face!!
#2 need is a right-handed power corner OF’er who can play some corner infield positions if needed. That way they can kick that sorry a** Andruw Jones, off the team. Keppinger is not an upgrade over Nunez. Michael Cuddyer is an upgrade over Jones but now the Twins are starting to look like contendors again.
A Wandy or another like him is needed. Garcia and Colon being healthy the rest of the year is a crap shoot and Garcia should not start games against teams like the Red Sox. Who knows what we will get from Hughes and Nova from here on out and Burnett is Burnett.
One cannot have too much pitching and a pennant race is no time to start experimenting with pitchers like Noesi as a starter and think they can be depended on. IMO.
Nathan came back to the Twins quickly…..but he’s still not back anywhere close to where he was.
ID
But you take back a bigger and/or shorter contract. I want him included in a deal for Beltran. Probably won’t happen, but coupled with a B prospect or two, maybe it’s better for the Mets than losing Beltran for nothing.
Against All Odds June 21st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
# Erin June 21st, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Joba_62 Done!!! http://t.co/JJ8Yvsy
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We can rebuild him?we have the technology
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I think the Yankees definitely need a top rotation starter to advance deep into the playoffs.
After CC, you never know if Burnett is going to be erratic, Colon healthy, or Hughes polished enough. Nova and Noesi are solid for the regular season and I like what they bring to the table and both might pan out to be cost controlled starting pitchers who help the Yankees reach the post season every year while adding tremendous flexibility to payroll. Furthermore, Nova is pitching as well as Liriano right now at a fraction of the cost. But does anyone here really want to see Ivan Nova on the mound in a huge playoff game instead of Francisco Liriano?
Suppose the Twins demanded Nova + Noesi + more. You would have to do it.
Wandy is a mid-rotation starter in the NL. There is nothing in his numbers that say ace. He’s the ace of the Houston Astros – but that’s not that much different than being the ace of a AAA team. I kid, I kid. He just doesn’t seem like he’s a guy that I’d look forward to starting a game in the playoffs.
Liriano on the other hand?
I can picture him put a bunch of 0′s up on the scoreboard in a big playoff game. He has big game stuff.
I think the Yanks #1 need as relates to winning a WS is another starting pitcher (preferably a LH one) with high end potential. To me….adding that would increase their title chances significantly more than anything else……that and just getting healthy.
Joba should have put that on his left arm to play a prank on the Twitsters of the world.
Per Wally’s article, I get the fact he thought that Joe should’ve left Nova in, but who is the pitcher that he left in that he should’ve taken out, MO?
I am sure Wally likes his check, but it must be really hard for him to follow a team that he hates so much.
Shame Spencer June 21st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
# Germfree Adolescents June 21st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
“Mac, you have to wonder if those movies could be made today with all of the PC idiots yammering about stereotyping.”
Yes if only we could go back to the good ole days of subjugating women and Amos and Andy
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Actually, I dunno how many of you have watched any of Tyler Perry’s movies but I dunno that those PC idiots have been doing a very good job…
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This was about whether a Mel Brooks could get a movie like “Blazing Saddles” made in this day and age. He and Cleavon Little had no issues with it. Gene Wilder and a couple of the cast were reluctant to use certain words until Little talked them into it.
blake
Let’s say: CC, Colon (if healthy), Hughes
Is it really worth overpaying for another starter who may not bump any of those guys in a playoff rotation?
Rich – That’s pretty wishful thinking that the Mets would take on any contract right now. Swisher’s trade value is non-existent.
Rich in NJ June 21st, 2011 at 12:40 pm
“If he starts it won’t be for this club”
AAO
Probably, but I refuse to lose hope that they will somehow see the light with a guy who, if you look at his complete record as a starter, was better than almost every other starter on their staff over the last few years
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Hopefully they do see the light because I would love to see it but I doubt they go down that road again. The odds of him starting again were at a low point now factor in being so many yrs removed from starting.
Rich–
Beltran and maybe Santana would be where I would look for any acquisitions. Not sure where Santana is in his recovery program though, and would need to see him pitch first.
But Beltran would be a significant bat to add for play-offs.
Nathan had TJS 3/2010 and was back on the mound in the Majors to begin the 2011 season
That’s about 12 months.
About 14 or so months later, he’s back on the DL with some elbow soreness.
I guess once Joba does return, I don’t think we can expect much from him until 2013
Gio Gonzalez remains an interesting name. His low salary would make him extremely expensive in terms of prospects but the Yankees have loads of offensive firepower to trade to the A’s in exchange for their excess pitching. That team doesn’t have any good hitters. Jesus Montero, Brett Gardner and Eduardo Nunez would interest them. They could remake their long-term offense with one trade. Having a young, cheap lefty like Gio in Yankees stadium would be invaluable for the Yankees, especially against the Red Sox. If Cashman can stay cheap in the rotation, he can splurge on a high impact hitter like Jose Reyes in free agency.
Rich,
It just depends on what you’re getting and what the price is. Knowing what I know right now…..I wouldn’t feel great about winning it all with CC, Colon, and Hughes as the front 3 in a playoff rotation. That could change….but we have no idea at this point what Hughes will be when he comes back or if Colon will hold up the entire season.
ID
I realize it’s wishful thinking, but you implicitly (did I read you wrong?) made the point that Swisher is so hot that they shouldn’t trade him, so that would mean he has some value.
BoJo
I don’t see Santana as a realistic option given the contract and injury history. Last I heard, he had some kind of setback, and won’t really be ready before some time in August.
Against All Odds June 21st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
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Things change, and I beleive Cashman is smart enough to change as conditions evolve.
He was worried that Joba’s stuff wasn’t consistent enough to start again, but then Joba showed he had recovered his mechanics and power stuff. After his TJ surgery, he should be even stronger…and add a tick or 2 to his velocity.
Joba also showed he was stronger after his off-season conditioning…with another off-season to build up more, his strength should no longer be a concern to Cashman.
Finally, Cashman was locked into Joba for pen this year and apparently didn’t want to go scrambling to replace him. But next year, the pen will be in place by the time Joba returns, so he has the luxury of rehabbing as a starter.
I hope it happens and won’t rule it out until it doesn’t.
Kei Igawa for Josh Johnson and Andruw Jones for Ubaldo Jimenez. Done!
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That said though….they’ll make the playoffs without doing anything and everyone has a chance once you get there……which is why if nothing is available that is a real upgrade then they should just not do anything and see what happens.
# sunny615 June 21st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Kei Igawa for Josh Johnson and Andruw Jones for Ubaldo Jimenez. Done!
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If Cashman leaves I think Levine can pull that off.
What might the starting staff look like in a month??
Sabathia
Colon
Nova
Hughes
Burnett
Garcia? Gordon? Where do they go and how do they fir on the team?
I realize it’s wishful thinking, but you implicitly (did I read you wrong?) made the point that Swisher is so hot that they shouldn’t trade him, so that would mean he has some value.
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I think he’s more valuable to the Yankees, as a Yankee, than he is trade.
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blake June 21st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
That said though….they’ll make the playoffs without doing anything and everyone has a chance once you get there……which is why if nothing is available that is a real upgrade then they should just not do anything and see what happens.
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Agreed…looks like the play-off teams will be Boston and NY out of East, Tesas out of west, and either Detroit or Twins out of Central (I discount ChiSox). I definitely would love a Gio on this team against those guys–especially Boston–but can live with the rotation we have and take our chances.
Yankees Tonight’s starter, Brian Gordon, is the first player to use a leather-free glove in an @MLB game … http://atmlb.com/jzIE86
Blake-
A lefty starter with high end potential. You would be talking then about a mega deal for the likes of these most likely unavailable young lefties-Kershaw ,Jaime Garcia, Sanchez,Bumgarner, Hamels in the NL. Britton, Lester, Danks, Gonzalez, Price, Romero in AL
Bojo-
I’ll play.
Let’s say the Metsies were willing to trade Beltran to the Yanks and eat a considerable portion of his salary to get prospects back.
Who would you be willing to part with for him ?
Against All Odds June 21st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
If Cashman leaves I think Levine can pull that off.
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I think Levine has been “pulling it off” for a long time now.
Levine would be a genius…
Erin
those Robbie spikes would make an excellent belated birthday gift
Johan Santana won’t be ready until late July/Mid august at the earliest, and he is no way worth $60 mil through 2013. and the Mets aren’t eating half of that contract without getting something substantial back. He’s not Johan Santana anymore. He’s Johan Santana The Elder, young Johan’s oldest brother.
# BoJo June 21st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Against All Odds June 21st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
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Things change, and I beleive Cashman is smart enough to change as conditions evolve.
He was worried that Joba’s stuff wasn’t consistent enough to start again, but then Joba showed he had recovered his mechanics and power stuff. After his TJ surgery, he should be even stronger…and add a tick or 2 to his velocity.
Joba also showed he was stronger after his off-season conditioning…with another off-season to build up more, his strength should no longer be a concern to Cashman.
Finally, Cashman was locked into Joba for pen this year and apparently didn’t want to go scrambling to replace him. But next year, the pen will be in place by the time Joba returns, so he has the luxury of rehabbing as a starter.
I hope it happens and won’t rule it out until it doesn’t.
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You made some excellent points on Joba’s situation as well as the Yankees. Hopefully they do consider giving him a shot. I just find it hard to believe they will. He excelled in the pen this yr and even if the BP is formed w/o him I wouldn’t be surprised if comes back as a reliever. I can see him starting for another club but I believe that ship has sailed for the Yankees.
CalYank June 21st, 2011 at 12:58 pm
What might the starting staff look like in a month??
Sabathia
Colon
Nova
Hughes
Burnett
Garcia? Gordon? Where do they go and how do they fir on the team?
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Gordon is an easy decision. He is either sent down to sent to the pen.
Freddy or Colon will have to be sent to the pen. Neither will get released, but one of them
must get demoted. This team won’t have a 6 arm rotation.
For Beltran I’d be willing to part with guys like Phelps, Warren, Noesi, Brackman, Adams, Laird
MTU
The Yankees’ strength is their deep pockets. It’s not in their interest to sacrifice prospects to save money.
# BoJo June 21st, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Against All Odds June 21st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
If Cashman leaves I think Levine can pull that off.
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I think Levine has been “pulling it off” for a long time now.
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lol hilarious
MTU June 21st, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Bojo-
I’ll play.
Let’s say the Metsies were willing to trade Beltran to the Yanks and eat a considerable portion of his salary to get prospects back.
Who would you be willing to part with for him ?
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MTu–since they need just about everything, I’d give them a list and tell them to pick 2-3 of them.
Possible deal–Romine, Adams or Cujo, Heathcote (sp?), Mesa, Warren, Phelps, and if pushed, yes–even Kei Igawa.
how r some of u guys puttin hughes ahead of aj in a playoff start?
hughes has never pitched good in the playoffs and yet he would get the start over aj?
kate- yes, they certainly would.
I wouldn’t give up Romine. He’s hitting just under .300 with near .800 OPS at the catching position, comes from a baseball family, plays hard and has the potential to be a plus catcher. He has Russell Martin-in-his-prime potential.
Rich-
I have heard it reported that that’s they way they prefer it.
More money eaten and better prospects in return.
Bojo-
I would not surrender a guy like Romine for Beltran.
The others might be possibilities.
Bret-
I’d have trouble dealing Montero for any pitcher unless they were Kershaw, King Felix or Justin Verlander.
Doc Iac June 21st, 2011 at 1:06 pm
how r some of u guys puttin hughes ahead of aj in a playoff start?
hughes has never pitched good in the playoffs and yet he would get the start over aj?
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Not true–remember when he came in and pitched several inings against Cleveland? He has the stuff (if healthy) to throw a quality start in play-offs.
MTU June 21st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Bojo-
I would not surrender a guy like Romine for Beltran.
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Romine would be a tough loss, no doubt…but I wouldn’t call him untouchable.
New thread—>
New Post: Jeter gets on the field, Colon does long toss
After Bud Selig is drugged and approves this trade I do the following:
Montero, Banuelos and other(s) for Kershaw.
Kesrhaw is what we hope Banuleos becomes and the Dodgers are certain to want Montero as part of the deal.
I know. It will never happen.
I want Kemp when he hits FA, or I’ll consider working with Towers for
Upton at that time.
Swish sticks till then.
Bojo-
IMO Beltran should not command a Romine.
Think DJ Mitchell plus a filler.
I’m sure as Hell glad that Cashman’s smart enough to block you GMs phone calls to his cell. Save him time not having to hang up, and he’s much to busy to spend all day laughing.
So Cashman mentioned last week that a trade might not be for an upgrade but probably for a change of scenery. Which position player can you see being traded for a change of scenery? Swisher is the only one the comes to mind.
Is anyone a little concerned about C.C.’s last 3 outings? He has given up 4,4, and 6 runs in those games. Granted he went deep into games. His last 10 starts he has given up 4 or more runs in 6 of those starts.