Game 72: Yankees at Reds
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jun 22, 2011 
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YANKEES (42-29)
Brett Gardner LF
Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Swisher RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada 1B
Eduardo Nunez SS
Ramiro Pena 3B
Francisco Cervelli C
Freddy Garcia RHP
RHP Freddy Garcia (5-6, 3.63)
Garcia vs. Reds
REDS (38-36)
Fred Lewis LF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Joey Votto 1B
Jay Bruce RF
Scott Rolen 3B
Drew Stubbs CF
Edgar Renteria SS
Ryan Hanigan C
Ryan Leake RHP
RHP Mike Leake (6-3, 4.04)
Leake vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 12:35 p.m., YES Network
WEATHER: So far, so good. Cloudy, but no rain just yet. Wind blowing pretty hard from right to left.
UMPIRES: HP D.J. Reyburn, 1B Ted Barrett, 2B Tim McClelland, 3B Marvin Hudson
CHANGING OF THE GARDY: In the Yankees past 11 games, Brett Gardner is hitting .472 with eight runs, five doubles, a triple, a home run and four walks. That’s the third-highest average in the Majors during that span.
GET AWAY: The Yankees have the best road record in the Majors at 19-12 (.613). Their pitching staff has the second-lowest road ERA in the big leagues (3.15) and their lineup has scored the most road runs per game (5.45).
TWO AWAY: Mariano Rivera is two games away from tying Roberto Hernandez for the 12th-most games pitched in Major League history.
ON THIS DATE: On June 22, 1938, Joe Louis knocked out Max Schmelling in 124 seconds during a heavyweight fight at Yankee Stadium… On June 22, 1957, Yogi Berra hit a walk-off homer in the 13th inning to give the Yankees a 6-5 win against the White Sox. Tommy Byrne got the win, having pitched nine innings of scoreless relief.
UPDATE, 12:51 p.m.: Things could have gotten out of hand for Garcia in that first inning. The first two balls were hit hard and the third guy walked, but Garcia got a big strikeout — Jay Bruce swinging at an offspeed pitch — and a fly ball to left to leave two runners stranded. Scoreless after one.
UPDATE, 1:26 p.m.: High throw to the plate + Gardner’s speed from third = An early 1-0 Yankees lead in the third inning.
UPDATE, 2:01 p.m.: With a 2-0 Yankees lead heading into the bottom of the fifth, the Yankees have scored their runs by playing an NL style of baseball, and so far Freddy Garcia has negotiated this Reds lineup without much trouble beyond that first inning jam.
UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: Rough inning for Pena at third. One throw sailed wide to first base, and another short-hopped it’s way to the plate. His pair of errors have opened the door to a game-tying two-run fifth for the Reds.
UPDATE, 2:24 p.m.: The Yankees replacement at first base just made up for their replacement at third. Posada’s two-run homer has the Yankees back in front, 4-2, in the sixth.
UPDATE, 2:55 p.m.: Terrific start by Garcia, who gave the Yankees seven strong innings and shouldn’t have allowed a run. He’s turned a 4-2 lead over to the bullpen, with Dave Robertson in to handle the eighth. The Yankees have upgraded their defense with Mark Teixeira taking over at first base and Chris Dickerson moving into right field.
LETS GO YANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All Star Balloting so far:
1B AGon
2B Cano
SS Jeter
3B Arod
OF Bautista, Grandy, Hamilton
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Get out there and help Tex in!
Girardi should of punted the 2nd game instead of the 1st. With Cueto on the mound against your worst pitcher give that game up and try to win the 1st. This is a really tough lineup for Gordon and I would be surprised if he doesn’t get hit around.
Im blacked out so am listening to John and Suzyn. Haven’t done that in awhile
Recent scouting reports on Zoilo Almonte (from Josh Norris)
“jnorris427 Josh Norris
More scout quotes on Z. Almonte: “When he squares it, the ball explodes … The raw liveliness of his swing makes you take notice.”
# AldotheApache June 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Lincecum was drafted by the Cubs AND the Indians AND THE Giants.
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Gotcha, my bad. My question then, as an extension of this, is who gets credit for his development? He was pitching in the bigs the same year he was drafted, right? Or was it only a year he spent in the minors? Either way, his time there was brief. So… who gets the credit? The Giants farm system or the University of Washington?
“Gotcha, my bad. My question then, as an extension of this, is who gets credit for his development”
Primarily himself and his dad…..
Clarification, just looked it up: July 26, 2006 was his first game in the Giants system and on May 6, 2007 he started for the Big Club. So he spent less than a year in the minors
Freddy better keep the ball down today…..no lollypop hangers.
Can’t see it….but sounds like Gardner just about hosed Phillips
LETS GO FREDDY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im blacked out so am listening to John and Suzyn. Haven’t done that in awhile
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im sorry to hear tht
Cano always seems to be lazy getting tags down. Maybe it just seems that way.
Good Job Freddy !! . . . lets get something on the board boys !
I like how Freddy pitches around people. He has a game plan and tries his best to execute it.
Yankees have been road warriors so far this year. Which will come in very valuable in the 2nd half of the season. Playing good with the Gray’s on and I like it.
great at bat by cano
cano was out before my mlb gameday came back from commercial…
Nice Walk Jorge !!
Hip hip
Hit it good.
Good Job Pena !! way to take one for the team
ON THIS DATE: On June 22, 1938, Joe Louis knocked out Max Schmelling in 124 seconds during a heavyweight fight at Yankee Stadium… On June 22, 1957, Yogi Berra hit a walk-off homer in the 13th inning to give the Yankees a 6-5 win against the White Sox. Tommy Byrne got the win, having pitched nine innings of scoreless relief.
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On this date in 1916, Babe Ruth pitching for the Red Sox, threw a 3 hit shutout against the Yankees in a 1-0 victory that took 1 hour and 18 minutes to play.
Why can’t the Yankees develop pitchers like that?
1st pitch clearly not a strike
blake June 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Im blacked out so am listening to John and Suzyn.
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You should try to stop drinking so much this early in the day.
3 and 2–Posada will be running-go towards third Jorgie!!
Cervelli ! — ughhhhhhh
“Im blacked out so am listening to John and Suzyn.
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You should try to stop drinking so much this early in the day.”
LOL
Being a Yankee fan is not easy at times. And I will have to say watching Frankie play has to be one of the top things on the list that makes it hard to be a Yankee fan.
Im blacked out so am listening to John and Suzyn. Haven’t done that in awhile
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Hope to enjoy semi-fiction
Is Swish okay?
he makes some great plays, and then some real bad ones…..
quite the enigma.
Atta boy, Swish!!!
Nice Swish !!!!!
Mell June 22nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Im blacked out so am listening to John and Suzyn. Haven’t done that in awhile
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Hope to enjoy semi-fiction
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I love listening to those two–good for several laughs a game…and it’s funny how you get so used to something that you would miss it if gone.
yanks flashing some leather today
Swish!!!!!!!
Sorry Blake, that should have read “Hope YOU enjoy semi-fiction”
3 line outs, lol
Good Job Freddy !! . . .now go hit a homerun
Too bad Freddy doesn’t have a reason to bunt here. He seems good at that.
Garcia ain’t exactly mystifying ‘em this afternoon, but so far so good.
someone please tell him to stop sliding into first….
he is going to get hurt.
Gardy makes it happen…Go Go Brett!
Take that, Melky.
nice Brett !
Let’s steal Brett! Go!
That should be a finable offense. So dumb to slide into first.
This guy is going to be tough to steal on…good move…holds runners…
This kid is impressive so far…
UnKnown – If you don’t “land and slide”, diving into first base is absolutely faster.
Double steal time
Nice Job Grandy !!!
How is that for Baserunning Bobby V. You idiot.
Lets Go Yankees
I don’t see a lot of sprinters diving to the finish line, but I could be wrong.
UnKnown – I don’t think you are allowed to leave your feet in that sort of racing… to stop them from diving at the finish line hehe…
UnKnown – The way I’ve always looked at it is… the second you dive you are instantly “your height” closer to the bag. If you hit the ground and slide up to the bag you slow yourself down and will not likely gain anything from it… but if you land directly on the bag with an outstretched hand, you could not have gotten there any quicker.
Come on Swish big spot here.
Absolutely safe at the dish. I think Brett took a cleat though.
We’ll take it . .Good Job Swish !!
Mell,
I do…..I know they the best duo in the world but they have grown on me. So what if Sterling can’t see the ball anymore
Also sprinters times are clocked when their chest crosses the tape, not their arms.
Did Gardner roll his ankle? Does that mean he can lollygag to first in his next AB?
Diving into first is usually a mistake, but in that case I think it helped Brett get around/past/under/beyond the pitcher who was covering.
Speed to first, speed from first to third, speed home.
Good job, Brett.
Cano
vintage cano there….
For an example, see: Brett Gardner, game 1 of 2010 ALCS
ROBBIE CANO !! Great Job brother ! . . and thanks for the fantasy points !
cano and gardner are officially on .300 watch !
.296 and .295.
Another GMR (Gardner Manufactured Run)!!!
Cano has been looking a lot more like one of the best players in the game again lately.
Gardner’s speed set this whole thing in motion.
We need a good shut down inning here ! . . Don’t give it back Freddy !
need a shut down inning here
Whats up fellas.
I cant believe Gardner is biting off Melky on head first slides to first. He needs to come up with something original. Like a wizard of oz flip or a back slide.
I like how O’Neill said that when he was playing “we never even heard of Twitter.”
Glad to hear some admit finally that small ball is a positive.
Who’s the 3rd guy in booth with Paulie and Kay?
Is Granderson ever going to get a day off? Talk about getting your monies worth.
SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Whats up fellas.
I cant believe Gardner is biting off Melky on head first slides to first. He needs to come up with something original. Like a wizard of oz flip or a back slide.
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How about a moon dance as he goes past the bag?
Nice Job Freddy !! . . .looking good so far . . .pitch count is on point as well ! .
Good idea, Garcia can be our NL specialist. Boston, no.
When he gets a chance to settle in and find out what pitches are working, Garcia can be very tough. He’ll give the team length too.
Unless of course he sucks later–in that case, this post will self destruct.
That was Jack Curry.
If you don’t “land and slide”, diving into first base is absolutely faster.
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What? No.
Note to Paulie: Stop admitting you’re dumb so readily.
Nova got the Reds to chase a ton of bad pitches……an aggressive offense plays to Freddy’s strength. Its the patient teams that he’s going to struggle with.
blake June 22nd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Nova got the Reds to chase a ton of bad pitches……an aggressive offense plays to Freddy’s strength. Its the patient teams that he’s going to struggle with.
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Bodes well for Gordon too
Its faster to run hard straight through the bag…..these things have been timed. You should only dive if you sense the throw is going to be offline to avoid a swipe tag.
Bojo,
The worm would be my next option.
Cervy
Honestly – can Montero do worse than Cervelli is now? Cervelli isn’t even on the SF Giants’ wish list he’s so bad.
Cervelli ??? UGHHHHH
NSF, i guess you and I need to remove our dayton rims off our pinto. 7 of the top 20 are in Cali. Most up in your neck of the woods.
Here’s a rundown of the 20 worst areas for car theft:
1.
Fresno, Calif.
2.
Modesto, Calif.
3.
Bakersfield-Delano, Calif.
4.
Spokane, Wash.
5.
Vallejo-Fairfield, Calif.
6.
Sacramento, Calif. area
7.
Stockton, Calif.
8.
Visalia-Porterville, Calif.
9.
San Francisco-Oakland, Calif. area
10.
Yakima, Wash.
11.
Laredo, Texas
12.
Detroit, Mich. area
13.
Seattle, Wash. area
14.
Macon, Georgia
15.
San Diego, Calif. area
16.
Myrtle Beach, SC area
17.
Las Vegas, Nev.
18.
San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, Calif.
19.
Jackson, Miss.
20.
Albuquerque, NM
My bad 10 of 20
Freddy’s dealing now. It does seem like he struggles early, and the Reds hitting all those line drive outs in the first couple innings put them in a hole
What happens to Hughes starting spot if Nova and Garcia keep dealin like they have lately?
The fun surrounding the Dodgers just keeps on giving
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-.....id=6689048
McCourt’s lawyer claiming Bud wasn’t acting in good faith and wants to get rid of McCourt.
Ya think?!
Freddie may end up in the pen….
SoS, I didn’t want to mention it, but my car was stolen in Vallejo the night I went to see CC throw out the first pitch at that little league game. Twice.
It was stolen later that night too.
or someone else will go down and it will all work out.
Mike Leake at 86 pitches
Who would have thought we’d have a problem fitting Hughes into the rotation purely based on merit?
Bruce bunting last inning is not smart. Funny though.
NSF,
2 positives to take from it. At least it wasnt stolen while you were still in the car and the unmatched joy ride return policy they have in V.
Too many starting pitchers is the best problem this team could have..
Colon coming back along with Hughes coupled with the emergence of Nova and to a lesser extent Noesi (and I only say lesser because he’s been out in the pen) could really help this team down the stretch. This team is already among the best in baseball.. we could end up a lot better.
Don’t see that often from El Nino. Now Freddy has to deal a bit here.
RS June 22nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Who would have thought we’d have a problem fitting Hughes into the rotation purely based on merit?
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I don’t think that is an issue at all if Hughes returns to form.
Cervi at .179….this scrub needs to go…
oh pena
This is what happens when you have bench players. Arod and Martin make that play 10 times out of 10 in their sleep
Uncharacteristically shaky defense from pena. When thats all you bring to the table it really stings.
every team has bench players fyi
Saw that coming a mile away.
Turn two. Thats what you need to do in that situation.
“I don’t think that is an issue at all if Hughes returns to form.”
If returning to form means a season like last year, that’s not much better than what anyone else is doing in the rotation. It’s a hard decision because the worst pitcher so far has probably been Nova, but if the Yankees see him in their rotation next year, they need to continue to develop him.
Speaking of pitching. Man im glad we didnt go after Lackey. 7 era and a healthy contract. To think some of us complain about Burnett. The grass isnt always greener folks.
Girardi should be fired for putting out this lineup
Wow…..our bench players are really not that bad, but I wonder if it makes sense to play ALL of them at the same time?
first error was really more on posada, it wasn’t a good throw but it was catchable, posada was positioned in the middle of the bag instead of the side where the throw was heading
obv terrible throw home by pena, gotta question whether you should just take the double play there, he had that option
Girardi should be fired for putting out this lineup
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go away
Was there a point to sitting Tex n a rod in same game?
Freddy deserved better than having the game tied up there.
Phil doesn’t have a long enough track record to have a form. I think it’s imperative that he be put back in the rotation IF the Yankees want him to be a part of their future. If they aren’t sure, then they can put him in the pen and forgo any further development as a starter. Since Cashman has clearly stated that Phil is going to be a starter, he either gets a spot in the rotation or he’s kept down in AAA until a spot opens up somehow.
“every team has bench players fyi”
yeah, but not everyone has four of them in the infield at one time, all replacing gold glovers. I’m not blaming the circumstance, just stating the consequences of it.
@ac1. U stll posting ur terrible pro clueless Joe rants?
ugh – cervelli.
I agree that Nova should be kept in the rotation……..it really depends on how the Yankees view the two young pitchers. I don’t think Garcia is going to be moved – he’s been quite dependable.
Players voted for doubleheader because they wanted Thursday day off. Difficult to sweep doubleheader. But players want their day off. Lack desire to win. Have desire for day off, though day off Monday. Doubleheader means AA players such Pena play and commit 2 errors inning. But players get their day off so everybody happy. Granderson have appointment with Apple store, much more important than winning.
was pena asleep? what happened?
With the “weath” of catching in the minors why is Cervelli still on the team?
If Garcia and Nova continue pitching well, there’s the option of moving Colon back to the bullpen. His stuff plays better as a reliever than Nova’s or Garcia’s.
The Reds pitcher should be tiring by now…time to put up some runs. Swish or Cano or PO should be able to take him deep
Pena brought up for his defense. He’s failed at that today and cost Garcia the 2 runs.
RS, that would be a mistake; I’m not sure how well Colon will hold up or even if he’ll continue pitching this well, but you want your better pitchers to pitch more innings. I don’t see Colon losing his spot.
@ac1. U stll posting ur terrible pro clueless Joe rants?
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im reasonable.
i dont just blindly hate girardi and constantly complain about everything
Colon has been ACE. No way. Its between those other 3.
Game ain’t over folks. And the Yankees ain’t losing. It’s just been reset. 2-2 is as good as 0-0. Leake’s over 90 pitches. We’ll win.
It’ll be another month before Hughes comes back–these “problems” tend to resolve themselves.
RS June 22nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
“I don’t think that is an issue at all if Hughes returns to form.”
If returning to form means a season like last year, that’s not much better than what anyone else is doing in the rotation. It’s a hard decision because the worst pitcher so far has probably been Nova, but if the Yankees see him in their rotation next year, they need to continue to develop him.
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I didn’t qualify it. If Hughes pitches well he will have a spot in the rotation I don’t think there is any issue about that. Sabathia, Hughes, Burnett, Colon and Nova as I see it with Garcia as a long man and insurance should someone get hurt, which is more likely than not the rest of the year.
Besides, if it’s still close after 8, Arod or Tex (or both) will probably make an appearance depending on the situation.
Unless he has a set back or they decided to keep him down in AAA just because, it’s not going to take another month for him to be ready.
I think the Yanks should start bringing back the starters in the 7th.
How much 3rd has Pena been playing at SWB? Man that stinks for Garcia…
oh cano at .299…..
Germfree Adolescents June 22nd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
With the “weath” of catching in the minors why is Cervelli still on the team?
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What’s a “weath?”
Whoever comes back 1st is taking Gordon’s spot.
After that it’s a tough decision. Bartolo was throwing it like an ace. Freddy’s more durable. Nova’s shown signs of real development at times.
How much money would the Yanks have to eat in order to trade AJ?
Love when Robbie goes opposite.
Cervelli having such a strong stranglehold on his roster spot is one of the great Yankee mysteries. I’m done screaming for Montero to be called up – at this point, I’d just like to see a veteran catcher like Molina who doesn’t cost runs with his defense.
.299. So close I can taste it!!
YES!! Way to get those runs right back
HIP HIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long overdue Posada shot
alled
BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
The Reds pitcher should be tiring by now…time to put up some runs. Swish or Cano or PO should be able to take him deep
Hip, Hip….
Way to go Posada.
Jorge!
Out of the lineup for days and doesn’t miss a beat.
man how could clueless joe sit tex and play posada?
how dare him, he should be fired waaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa.
RS,
Still think Montero is trade bait.
Called that is.
First posada homer in ages
BoJo,
Wealth
Robbie has been going to other way nicely for a few games now….he’s a great hitter when he does that.and uses the whole field.
JoRGE!!! Love it
Today not Girardi fault. Doubleheader cause him put Pena in lineup. Players vote for DH because passion for day off over winning, their fault. So happy Jorge career not over as I thought.
I don’t get trading Montero unless it’s for King. They need young impact bats. He’s one.
The defense from the back up players has been dreadful this year. Whenever the main infielders don’t play it has been error city. They definitely have to get better in that department. The throw home from Pena was bad but the fact that Cervelli leads every catcher in baseball in errors isn’t surprising at all.
Nobody knows why Cervelli is still on this team…..I guess its just comfortable because he played a lot last year and the earth didn’t stop spinning……
garcia falters at all go to the pen early. got a 2 run lead go for the jugular.
pena’s d very disapointing. also the votto throw home was not the right play kay and o’neil he should have thrown to 2nd
Weinerardi gate is the only thing i can think of.
Nice job Jorge….you know that felt good
beautiful to get those two runs back. thought that one was going to hit high off the wall, phew!!
impressive that jorge can have his routine disturbed, miss out on some ABs cuz of interleague, and then go deep when he gets a start. professional.
blake, yep, when Cano goes opposite, all is right in the Yankee universe.
Poor Garcia. Happy for Po. Hopefully Garcia can throw up some more 0′s.
Time to fire the backup fielding coach.
Captain Clutch June 22nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
The defense from the back up players has been dreadful this year. Whenever the main infielders don’t play it has been error city. They definitely have to get better in that department. The throw home from Pena was bad but the fact that Cervelli leads every catcher in baseball in errors isn’t surprising at all.
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Chavez will help when he gets back…Pena having a rare error day–usually very dependable…Nunez maybe better suited to replace Jones…Cervelli has pix of Cashman with Girardi that could be embarrassing.
And yet, they are only 1 game off best record in AL
For everyone who whines about how clutch the Sox are and the Yankees aren’t, Big Papi was just up with the bases loaded, 1 out. 3-0 count, and he grounds into an inning-ending DP.
Also grounded into a DP last night down by 1 run in the 9th inning. That’s all
Does anyone know what the chart is that is always hanging in the Yankee dugout? It looks like there are a number of diamonds on it and some of the diamonds are red…some are blue. It looks like its a chart that one of the coaches is checking out but I can’t tell which one. Thanks, in advance, for anyone who can explain it.
Maybe Posada finally accepted being THE DH and burned his catchers glove?
If Garcia gets through the middle of the order here, he can go 8 innings
Hi everyone,
just tuning in the game thru gameday, i gather that the D lineup is doing fine!
RS,
Probably missplaced those yummy shakes. How can someone go from 2 years ago having a slow bat to turning on every pitch this year?
Nice throw by Gardner…
WOW! Gardner racking up the assists
Nice!
Gardner…so good.
Does anyone know what the chart is that is always hanging in the Yankee dugout? It looks like there are a number of diamonds on it and some of the diamonds are red…some are blue. It looks like its a chart that one of the coaches is checking out but I can’t tell which one. Thanks, in advance, for anyone who can explain it.
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You can ask Chad but I bet it’s who in the pen is available.
Another GMR (Gardner Manufactured Run) –Saved this time!
That’s 2 runs Gardner accounted for in this game…the guy is a force.
I was a little worried about how garcia would match up with the reds, but so far it seems he is done a good jog
Wow….Gardner is really playing some good ball right now…making a believer of a former doubter here.
Those balls were hit very hard. Someone should be warming up while Garcia comes out for the 7th inning.
Gardner can put his stamp on a game in so many ways.
job
shouldnt garcia be battin ahead of cervelli?
The last time I was on here I got on Gardner for not getting to a ball in Seattle and for providing nothing on offense. Boy, he has shut me up on every level since then. Kudos sir.
nice scoop by robbie as well. he’s got 1st baseman picking skills.
But still, he is just a 4th outfielder right?
LOL
Pinch hitter time!!
Cervelli is a giant ball of suck.
Not a chance in the world are the yankees going to pull colon,their number 2 starter out of the rotation.
It’s either nova or garcia,if hughes doesn’t go to the pen
This is a mistake by Joe IMO
It’s obvious that Montero is stuck in jail…AAA. But it makes no sense why Cervelli is on this team over the fake Molina. It’s almost like the Yanks are hoping and thinking that one day out of the blue he will turn back into the player he was 2 days ago. I can’t think of any other reason to keep him on the team.
FeBuch June 22nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
This is a mistake by Joe IMO
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Why? Joe wants to go as long as possible with Garcia because he doesn’t know how much the bullpen will need to work in nightcap game.
no TV.
Pena sucked?
Guess Joe’s banking on the fact that Freddy can be a vet and save the bullpen and get through the bottom of the order in the 7th, lets hope hes right.
2 days ago=2 years ago
I think it could be a mistake because Freddy looked a little shaky in the 6th and 2 runs aint much against Cincy in this ballpark so it’d be nice to tack on, but it is the bottom of the lineup so maybe it’s worth a gamble.
What are the rules between tagging a bag, and tagging a runner? I thought 1st base was unoccupied therefor the runner needed to be tagged and not simply the bag.
Captain Clutch June 22nd, 2011 at 2:39 pm
It’s obvious that Montero is stuck in jail…AAA. But it makes no sense why Cervelli is on this team over the fake Molina. It’s almost like the Yanks are hoping and thinking that one day out of the blue he will turn back into the player he was 2 days ago. I can’t think of any other reason to keep him on the team.
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And yet he has his pitcher with the lead and relatively few pitches through 7….He is fine as a BUC…If he was better, he wouldn’t be a BUC
i ubnderstand that he needs garcia to go deep to preserve the BP, but i would have it ready just in case
So much for Peña’s great defense.
Number three for pena.
As the ball was hit to him, Pena lifted his glove, tapped it, and than couldn’t get the glove down enough. What a player.
Great job Pena…Just unreal…
Bojo,
You really think that Cervelli is guiding a veteran like Garcia through this game? Take the rose colored glasses off please.
Redemption…
YES! lol what a fool Stubbs is for not stealing on the first pitch. He could have possibly scored by now
good dp
They should trade Pena for someone else.
As much as hes effed up he started the DP pretty nicely, real quick transfer.
um, without Pena’s errors, Garcia would be going for the CG shutout
waka flocka June 22nd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Bojo,
You really think that Cervelli is guiding a veteran like Garcia through this game? Take the rose colored glasses off please.
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I think I’ll trust the baseball acumen of Cashman, Girardi, and the Yankee organization more than you…thank you.
Great inning Freddy!!! Joe was right!
Pena has been brutal but it happens to the best of them.
Garcia, like Colon, never forgot how to pitch. After their injuries, they seem just to have resumed business. Professionals.
pena pulls a chuck knoblauch in the field today with 3 errors?
tomingeorgia June 22nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Garcia, like Colon, never forgot how to pitch. After their injuries, they seem just to have resumed business. Professionals.
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Absolutely. Which is why I want both back next year. They are pros.
Bojo,
I`m not able to watch the game ( I`m working ), has garcia looked good or just lucky?
Benny Blanco June 22nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Pena has been brutal but it happens to the best of them.
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Absolutely–he is a good glove…
Another great job by Freddy today. Good for him. He really came through.
Looks like Tex is stretching, getting ready to come in at first next inning.
D-Rob for 8th
luis June 22nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Bojo,
I`m not able to watch the game ( I`m working ), has garcia looked good or just lucky?
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Listening to it myself…but I suspect he is doing great…should have a shut out.
Gardner was no better than a fourth outfielder and defensive replacement in the past. Right now, he has elevated his game and is playing really well. I hope that continues; whether or not he will show any consistency over time remains to be seen. He has gone through long stretches where he didn’t hit. As an example, this year during a twenty game stretch at the beginning of the year he hit under .200.
If Gardner continues to play as he is right now he can be a big asset to the Yankees; especially for the price. Although, I personally would have preferred a power hitting left-fielder like Matt Holliday.
when is the last time someone was hitting 300?
Garcia is at 89 pitches and has confused the Reds all day. I don’t see how you don’t let him start the 8th and try to squeeze a couple more outs out of him.
Cervi and Andruw obviously have pictures of Cashman and Girardi doing naughty stuff….
Kay is starting to be in the Sterling camp of can’t tell the difference between a deep fly ball and a HR, it’s pretty annoying when it’s so consistently wrong.
doubla06 June 22nd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Garcia is at 89 pitches and has confused the Reds all day. I don’t see how you don’t let him start the 8th and try to squeeze a couple more outs out of him.
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Agreed
Gardner was no better than a fourth outfielder and defensive replacement in the past.
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In 09 and 2010 he was a starting caliber centerfielder
Mike_Boston June 22nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Kay is starting to be in the Sterling camp of can’t tell the difference between a deep fly ball and a HR, it’s pretty annoying when it’s so consistently wrong.
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At least Sterling is funny
Girardi seriously cannot help himself. If it’s the 8th inning, a reliever has to come in. Bottom line. Robertson is gonna go out and throw 30 pitches and be unavailable for tonight.
BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Mike_Boston June 22nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Kay is starting to be in the Sterling camp of can’t tell the difference between a deep fly ball and a HR, it’s pretty annoying when it’s so consistently wrong.
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At least Sterling is funny
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Good point.
“Gardner was no better than a fourth outfielder and defensive replacement in the past. Right now, he has elevated his game and is playing really well.”
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This is where you are really wrong.
He was an above average LF last year.
You underestimate how much his incredible defense and on base ability bring to the table despite his lack of power.
keithlaw And us being stupid! “@dschoenfield: Baseball Today podcast on Hanley Ramirez & Cito Culver, Yanks No. 1 pick in 2010. http://t.co/hrZVA8r
it’s audio BTW.
Girardi should of went batter to batter with Garcia in the 8th. No reason to go to the bullpen if you don’t have to. That was a quick hook…
Another superb professional outing by Garcia…he’s not going anywhere
Good move taking Garcia out. A pitcher like Garcia loses it quickly and there is no reason to chance getting into a first and second and no out or worse you have a stud reliever like David Robertson available, 47 K’s in 29 innings.
Hopefully Girardi is learning from past mistakes as he gains experience managing.
Since the beginning of the 2010 season, Gardner is 12th among all position players in WAR with 9.2, and he’s closer to 5th than 13th. That’s pretty amazing.
Girardi seriously cannot help himself
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Girardi is always a by the book manager instead of using his own 2 eyes to see how the pitcher is pitching. Just like when he took Colon out of the game when he was dominating. He needs more of a feel for the game.
Girardi making moves now like a mad man. Triple switch with Tex at first and Dickerson in there in Right.
Cano is silky smooth.
What a play by Robbie!
Hitters literally have no chance against Robertson’s fastball.
Its kind of amazing to me that he isn’t getting more mainstream recognition for what he’s been doing.
Cano is back!
G-C June 22nd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
“Gardner was no better than a fourth outfielder and defensive replacement in the past. Right now, he has elevated his game and is playing really well.”
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This is where you are really wrong.
He was an above average LF last year.
You underestimate how much his incredible defense and on base ability bring to the table despite his lack of power.
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I acknowledge he is a superb defensive left fielder and that he can take the extra base on a single or double most of the time. But, I would still prefer a power hitter playing left field. A Holliday, Cargo, Hamilton or Braun. That’s my personal preference.
Nice play by Cano. It’s amazing how he usually makes the tough plays and this year is messing up the easy plays.
UnKnown June 22nd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Girardi making moves now like a mad man. Triple switch with Tex at first and Dickerson in there in Right.
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Girardi doesn’t need pornography, or his wife. He just thinks about interleague games in NL parks when he gets to do things like that.
Captain Clutch June 22nd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Girardi seriously cannot help himself
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Girardi is always a by the book manager instead of using his own 2 eyes to see how the pitcher is pitching. Just like when he took Colon out of the game when he was dominating. He needs more of a feel for the game.
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Why? They draw up their roster to have talent to lock down the game. If he didn’t play to the strategy of how his club is structured, then you could call him dumb.
D Rob is disgusting….93-95 mph with cut and great extension…..and a great hook.
Did somebody put a hex on Pena?
Robertson better stay away here
It’s clear that Cincy really packs in the dirt at home plate, lots of Baltimore chops.
how do u question bringin in robertson just so hes avaible tonite?
u have a chance to win the game so u put in the best pitcher for that senerio, garcia did well, now bring on 2 fresh relivers
West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Good move taking Garcia out. A pitcher like Garcia loses it quickly and there is no reason to chance getting into a first and second and no out or worse you have a stud reliever like David Robertson available, 47 K’s in 29 innings.
Hopefully Girardi is learning from past mistakes as he gains experience managing.
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Couldn’t disagree more.
Garcia was pitching a clinic with the bottom of the order due up. He was at 89 pitches.
You can always bring in Houdini if a runner gets on. Using Robertson now means he’s not available this evening.
Dealing Dave Dealt
That was an impressive inning from Robertson
DRob–the Yankee fan’s heart throb!
HoudiniRob
See how good u get d-rob when u don’t give free passes
“I acknowledge he is a superb defensive left fielder and that he can take the extra base on a single or double most of the time. But, I would still prefer a power hitter playing left field. A Holliday, Cargo, Hamilton or Braun. That’s my personal preference.”
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I respect that. Think about the LFers the Yankees had during the dynasty run though, save Justice. From 1996-1999 it was more toolsy, on base, defensive types like Raines, Curtis, and Ledee. It certainly can work.
That’s why Girardi brought in Roberston. They were totally over-matched after seeing Garcia’s soft stuff all day.
D Rob comes right after one of the best hitters in baseball and he has no chance.
Doc Iac June 22nd, 2011 at 3:04 pm
how do u question bringin in robertson just so hes avaible tonite?
u have a chance to win the game so u put in the best pitcher for that senerio, garcia did well, now bring on 2 fresh relivers
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Robertson did the job but wound up tossing 21 pitches. My point was Garcia was only at 89, no reason you can’t go batter to batter when Garcia was befuddling them all day. Hell, Phillips actually started laughing after one of Garcia’s Bugs Bunny pitches. Robertson is the perfect reliever come in in the middle of an inning anyway due to his mettle as a fireman and his ability to get a strikeout under any circumstance.
If Girardi leaves in Garcia and he gives up a base runner and a HR and the game is tied then he is criticized for not taking Garcia out. By taking Garcia out he removes that possibility from the board and thus has ‘a feel for the game’. Since you have no idea what would have occurred had Garcia been left in, its fruitless to criticize Girardi so harshly. I agree, in principle, with extending starters, but generally Girardi will be yelled at no matter what. If you want him to just get pulled at the first batter getting on base, why mess around if you’re that unsure? Let Robertson have the bases empty.
They need to win THIS game, not tonights game. Tonight they can worry about that one. If you save D-Rob for tonight and its a blow out, then you look foolish.
G-C June 22nd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
“I acknowledge he is a superb defensive left fielder and that he can take the extra base on a single or double most of the time. But, I would still prefer a power hitter playing left field. A Holliday, Cargo, Hamilton or Braun. That’s my personal preference.”
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I respect that. Think about the LFers the Yankees had during the dynasty run though, save Justice. From 1996-1999 it was more toolsy, on base, defensive types like Raines, Curtis, and Ledee. It certainly can work.
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I agree with you, absolutely it can work. It depends on the supporting cast. I don’t think it’s a win-it-all or not proposition, especially if Gardner continues to perform as well as he is now.
I think taking out garcia was the right move, you worry about tonight`s game later, right now he has to secure this one, heads up managing
I was trying to recall this morning if I have seen a better defensive LFer in the Yankees OF in the past 50 years…
Winfield was good but didn’t have BG’s range
Rickey had range but wasn’t as aggressive on plays as Brett
I recall that Tom Tresh had the speed, arm, and aggressiveness, but my memory of him is foggy (was very young at the time).
All told, I think he is the best defensive LFer that the team has had in at least the last 50 years, and maybe ever.
I wouldn’t call it heads up managing, he’s going to make that move 112 times out of 100.
BJK – A manager’s job is to win the game at hand, not to make decisions based on who will be available in future games. You deal with that then.
What is D-Rob’s job? To come in in the 8th inning with a 4-2 lead, shut them down and then to hand the ball to Mo. That is why he is here.
Nunez is pretty bad at running the bases.
NY is terrible at baserunning.
With the top of the lineup.coming up I wouldn’t want them to have another shot at Freddy …..they may have his timing by now. Girardi made the right call this time. As JF said, the win this one and.tonight becomes a bonus……
That guy on the drum was older than the game of chess.
And about Girardi, its obvious he is thinking that with a win in the day cap the Yankees go back to New York with a series win no matter what.
Bojo,
I wouldn`t go that far to call the best Lf ever, but one thing is for certain he will be part of the new core, and right now he is probably the best in his position
Nunez isn’t going to last on this team if he doesn’t stop making such stupid mental and lazy mistakes. Girardi and the coaches have to get all over him when he does stupid things that so it stops.
West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
BJK – A manager’s job is to win the game at hand, not to make decisions based on who will be available in future games. You deal with that then.
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I usually try to avoid commenting on your posts as you are entitled to your opinion…but that is so fundamentally wrong. A manager knows the season is a marathon, and he has to consider the long term…which is why Girardi holds relief pitchers out from pitching more than x times in a row. Or why he rests players like in this game…
Bojo,
He’s dang good out there…..he gets so much better jumps that he used to and is so fast. Plus he’s an extremely accurate throwing the ball. He’s just dynamic player when he’s hitting and getting on base.
luis June 22nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Bojo,
I wouldn`t go that far to call the best Lf ever, but one thing is for certain he will be part of the new core, and right now he is probably the best in his position
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I think I said best “defensive” LFer ever on the Yankees…
Poor Baltimore.
doubla06 June 22nd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
That guy on the drum was older than the game of chess.
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hahahahhaa now thats funny
A manager knows the season is a marathon, and he has to consider the long term…which is why Girardi holds relief pitchers out from pitching more than x times in a row. Or why he rests players like in this game…
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But in this case everyone wants to save D-Rob specifically to pitch in game 2, which is an unknown. If you are going to use D-Rob in one of the 2 games today, use him in the one that you know you can win.
doubla06 June 22nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
maybe it`s not a heads up managing, but it was the right call anyway
Nunez is tough to watch
He’s dang good out there…..he gets so much better jumps that he used to and is so fast. Plus he’s an extremely accurate throwing the ball.
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Gardner is an example of how aggressive positioning, a quick release, and accuracy can trump a below average arm strength.
Point taken Bojo, thanks
Nunez been on base every game that he’s filled in for DJ. Think he is hitting .310 in that span.
West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
BJK – A manager’s job is to win the game at hand, not to make decisions based on who will be available in future games. You deal with that then.
What is D-Rob’s job? To come in in the 8th inning with a 4-2 lead, shut them down and then to hand the ball to Mo. That is why he is here.
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WC- If that’s the case, why didn’t ARod or Tex play Game 1 instead of Game 2?
D-Rob’s job is to come into the game when he’s needed. In my humble opinion, he was not needed in this instance. Garcia had it under control.
I don’t think you should use a player just because it’s his “role” when you have to plan for 18 innings. You have to pay attention to what’s going on on the field and make adjustments to “the book”.
Now, if Garcia was gassed and didn’t feel like he should go back out, please disregard everything I just said.
But in this case everyone wants to save D-Rob specifically to pitch in game 2, which is an unknown. If you are going to use D-Rob in one of the 2 games today, use him in the one that you know you can win.
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I never said keep Robertson of the game at all costs. I was saying that with Garcia only at 89, see if he can scratch out one or two more outs. If Robertson only throws 10 or 12 pitches, you have a shot at using him for a batter or two in a big spot tonight. But he threw 21 pitches, and you know Girardi won’t dare put him in.
It’s weird how Mo never gets the benefit of the doubt on close pitches. You would think he has earned that.
Nunez should make us all appreciate the brains of Jeter. Who hasn’t made as many mental mistakes in his career as Nunez has made this week
If Gardner is getting on base at .380 or better…..is he a better player than Crawford indepent of contract? Crawford is a better pure hitter and a better base stealer……but he also can’t hit lefties a lick and has never been a high OBP guy. I also think Gardner has passed him defensively as he throws the ball better. Crawford is still probably a better player but value wise its not even close and.performance wise its closer than it may seem.
Pena is a great glove man…..I don’t.know what was.going on earlier….but that’s not typical of him.
I never said keep Robertson of the game at all costs. I was saying that with Garcia only at 89, see if he can scratch out one or two more outs.
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I just don’t think if you don’t have the confidence in Garcia for more than 1 or 2 ‘scratch outs’ then why not just go to D-rob if he is going to warming up? If you dry hump D-Rob he may not come in anyways in game 2. Basically, either you’re confident enough in Garcia to let him work his way out of a potential small mess, which means he could possibly blow the game with 1 swing, or you are going to panic and take him out at the first hint of trouble and for that I say WHY BOTHER.
A nice win from the scrub lineup
Jerkface June 22nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
A manager knows the season is a marathon, and he has to consider the long term…which is why Girardi holds relief pitchers out from pitching more than x times in a row. Or why he rests players like in this game…
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But in this case everyone wants to save D-Rob specifically to pitch in game 2, which is an unknown. If you are going to use D-Rob in one of the 2 games today, use him in the one that you know you can win.
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Every game is a decision as to where you want to spend your precious resources…but considering the long term is part of the process. In this case, as you point out. Girardi is going for the win in hand, and has made up his mind that he will rest these pitchers tonight. But he doesn’t blindly make decisions on “this game only.”
Drew Stubbs’ Tears
JF,
Gardner does a great job of getting himself into position to throw as he’s catching the ball…..that’s extemely important both in saving time and accuracy. He’s simply one of the better defenders in the game at any position right now.
Death, Taxes and Mo Saves.
Girardi rolled the dice in Game 1 and won. Garcia was solid against a good offensive team.
BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
BJK – A manager’s job is to win the game at hand, not to make decisions based on who will be available in future games. You deal with that then.
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I usually try to avoid commenting on your posts as you are entitled to your opinion…but that is so fundamentally wrong. A manager knows the season is a marathon, and he has to consider the long term…which is why Girardi holds relief pitchers out from pitching more than x times in a row. Or why he rests players like in this game…
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I am absolutely 100% right; Girardi is trying to win this game and that is why he brought in Robertson who pitched a dominating 8th and handed the ball to Mo and we won the game.
No one was talking about how many times in a row Robertson has pitched, or why he rests players. This was specifically about why he took Garcia out.
Scrubs Rule!!!!!
Some of your comments are amusing. You get seven innings out of a pitcher like Garcia, you bring in Robertson in the 8th and Mo in the 9th and win the game and you second guess that? That is EXACTLY what is supposed to happen.
See you all later at tonight’s game–if there is one.
a chance to sweep the day night double header and the seris…
half the readers hear wanted tx and arod and martin in this game and concide the 2nd game to their best starter with the fill ins,
instead giradi wants to face their best with our best instead of give in,
hence why i like giradi as manager and not some of u blokes