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Between-game notes: “He always seemed to find a way to come back”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Jun 22, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Interleague came at exactly the wrong time for Jorge Posada. He’d built a nine-game hitting streak during last week’s home stand, and it seemed he was finally — finally! — finding his swing. Then the team went to Chicago and Cincinnati and Posada was limited to sporadic at-bats, a pinch hit appearance at best.

“Just make the most of it,” Posada said.

Today’s doubleheader changed Posada’s role for the day. Joe Girardi texted Posada last night to tell him he would be playing first base this afternoon, and in Posada’s third plate appearance, he hit his first home run since April 23. It was the game-winner, a game-changing two-run shot immediately after the Yankees had thrown away a two-run lead.

“Home runs happen,” Posada said. “I don’t know when the last time was I hit one, but I wasn’t trying to hit one. They happen for me. I don’t care when they do happen, I’m happy (when they happen), but I’m not trying to go out there and hit a home run.”

Posada’s batting average is up to .227, which isn’t good, but it’s a lot better than his .125 average at the end of April or his .169 at the end of May. He also drew a walk today.

“If you’ve played long enough, you’ve struggled, and you’ve struggled pretty mightily, probably, during the course of your career,” Girardi said. “All players go through it. Jorge’s a tough kid — he’s not a kid any more, I joke with him — but he’s been through tough spells in his career. He’s been through adversity. He’s been through injuries. He always seemed to find a way to come back.”

Here’s Posada.

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• We’re almost three months into the season and Freddy Garcia has a 3.30 ERA. I couldn’t see it from the press box, but apparently Brandon Phillips started laughing when he struck out swinging a split-finger in the third inning. “I didn’t want to look at him, because it would make me laugh,” Garcia said. “… I throw a good split, try to hit the spot. When I don’t do that, that’s when I get hit. When I hit my spots, I’m successful.”

• Garcia said he was pitching around Joey Votto in the first inning. He preferred facing Jay Bruce, and he got Bruce to strikeout, a pivotal early at-bat.

• Speaking of Votto at-bats, the biggest Reds at-bat of the night might have been Votto’s strikeout against Dave Robertson in the eighth inning. Phillips had just singled, which meant the NL MVP came to the plate as the potential tying run. Robertson got him on three pitches. “Just be aggressive, but don’t really give him something he can hit out of the ballpark,” Robertson said. “I ended up, 0-2, throwing him a pitch he could hit out of the ballpark and I got away with it, and I feel lucky, but that’s pretty much it. I’ve got to throw strikes and I’ve got to get him out because right behind him is Bruce, and you don’t want to face him either. Just find a way to get him out.”

• Garcia had thrown only 89 pitches, so he could have gone back out for the eighth, but Girardi said he wanted Robertson to face the lefty, Fred Lewis, who would be the second hitter that inning. At most, Garcia was going to face one batter, and Girardi decided he’d rather give Robertson a clean inning.

• Even without sending Garcia for the eighth, the Yankees starter gave them plenty of distance, which was key in the first game of a doubleheader, especially with largely unknown starter going in the second game. “I always think about trying to save the bullpen,” Garcia said. “With two games, you don’t know what’s going to happen. I tried to go deep in the game.”

• Girardi said Robertson is almost certainly unavailable for the second game. He’ll check with Mariano Rivera, but Rivera is probably out as well.

• Ramiro Pena said he couldn’t remember ever having three errors in a game. He’s a legitimately outstanding defensive player, but today was a bad one. “Never in my life, never in my life,” Pena said. “Not even in Little League, minor leagues, nothing. Most was like two, maybe. It was weird, man, but it happened. Good thing we won.”

• Pena’s first error was a throw to first that tailed on him and got away. The second was the throw home, and Pena said he was concentrating on keeping the throw low so that Francisco Cervelli could apply the tag, and he wound up throwing it into the dirt. “Nino’s a great defender and it wasn’t his day,” Girardi said. “I’ll put him out there any time, I have no fear putting him out there. He’s a great defender. Today, just a tough day.”

• By the way, Girardi said he didn’t think the Yankees could have turned two on that ground ball to third when Pena made the bad throw home. If the ball’s on target — as you’d expect — the Yankees have the out at the plate and the double play still in order.

• Other than the Pena plays, the Yankees actually played very good defense today (and even Pena made some nice plays on balls hit to him later in the game).

• Jeff Marquez walked into the clubhouse with his right shoulder wrapped after today’s game. He’s seeing Dr. Ahmad when the Yankees get back to New York. Buddy Carlyle is immediately available in the bullpen.

• Here’s the Reds night game lineup:

REDS
Chris Heisey CF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Joey Votto 1B
Jay Bruce RF
Jonny Gomes LF
Ramon Hernandez C
Miguel Cairo 3B
Paul Janish SS
Johnny Cueto RHP

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95 Responses to “Between-game notes: “He always seemed to find a way to come back””

  1. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Really nice job by the Yankees; quietly, they are playing very well – the Sox can’t seem to shake them

    Garcia’s ERA – wow. What a great job he’s done – so much for his bad spring (he always has them). I admit that I’d like to see him stay in the rotation upon Phil/Colon’s return. I know that means Nova would go to the pen, but if it was ok for Phil in 2009, why not?

  2. PacoDooley June 22nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Good comments by Betsy. The Yankees situation with pitchers will be a tough one – hard to feel bad about having too many starters (and very surprising after the offseason). You have to still believe that neither Colon nor Garcia will pitch all the way to October like this, but if they do, then clearly someone has to go to the pen. Personally, I would send Hughes to the pen. He had a lot of success there and with this arm problem it would give him a lower workload this season. He could start to build back innings next season if he is totally healthy. But he is so young that I would protect his arm and take the great Hughes out of the pen.

  3. West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Well, if Nova has many more games like he did the other night, going 8 innings, allowing 4 hits and 1 run while striking out 7 — he’s not going anywhere.

  4. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    It was one game, WC – and if people were so gung ho on Phil going to the pen, I see no reason why Nova can’t do it.

  5. upstate kate June 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    too much pitching is a good problem to have

    best of luck to Sam

  6. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Paco, you put Phil there and you are saying goodbye to his career as a starter in pinstripes. I think that would be a terrible move – even though I think it’s possibly where he might be best suited down the line

  7. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Didn’t watch, but it sounds like it was a good game (sans errors).

    Garcia/Colon (when healthy) have exceeded expectations. If we’re having a hard time figuring out where to put Phil, then that means things are going well with the starting staff. It seems, though, that Phil might be back for Colon? Anyone read how many rehab starts he’ll need?

    LGY,

    I saw you raving about Gardner in the field. Did he do something special?

  8. 4time June 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    “Well, if Nova has many more games like he did the other night, going 8 innings, allowing 4 hits and 1 run while striking out 7 — he’s not going anywhere.”

    Hopefully you are right. And it’s not like they even need him in the pen. Even now, they can barely find meaningful innings for Noesi.

  9. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    How many rehab starts Colon will need?

  10. ron June 22nd, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    A decision wil be made on who goes to the pen.

    It won’t be colon.

    It’s between hughes,nova,garcia.

    If nova comes out inconsistent his next few starts,i think it’s him.

    If garcia has a few bad outings,it might be him.
    How do the yankees feel about hughes staying healthy?

    Or hughes developing his secondary pitches?
    Do we sacrifice hughes developement by keeping garcia in the rotation?
    Do we put nova’s developement on hold?

    Imo the yankees should send nova down & keep him starting til we can get him back in the rotation.
    I think if you put hughes in the pen now,it sets him back a long time.

    It will be answered in time,it always is.

  11. Jerkface June 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    The first casualty in any of this is Gordon. Unless Hughes and Colon return at the same time.

  12. LGY June 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    m,

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=16164243

  13. 4time June 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    In the short term Hughes will obviously replace Gordon.

  14. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    m,

    He caught a line drive to LF and double up Votto on 2nd base< incredible play from both Grdner and Cano

  15. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    I don’t think you can put Garcia in the pen. Unless he completely sucks.

    It would be a felony to put Colon in the pen (even though he warms up quickly, blah, blah, blah).

    I’m inclined to give Hughes the nod over Nova because of seniority and he’s more likely to give length than Nova.

    BUT, we don’t really know what Hughes can give us. If Hughes peters out in the 4th or 5th, then I put him in the bullpen.

  16. PacoDooley June 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Besty and Ron – why does Hughes to the pen for the rest of this season end or otherwise jeopardize his career as a starter? I am worried about his arm and I feel like this could get a productive season out of him while giving him some time to recover.

    I also don’t see why Colon has to be the guy that goes to the pen (whoever said that above). He has been arguably the most dominant of the bunch and his stuff has just been nasty. If he is an injury risk (well, okay, he is a walking injury risk) then I guess I can see it as a bet hedging move. But his last few starts before the running injury were really dominant (love watching that two-seamer he throws – one of the most exciting pitches in the game when it is on and dancing).

  17. Tom in N.J. June 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Does Nova have any innings limit?

  18. Yanks78 June 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    BUT, we don’t really know what Hughes can give us. If Hughes peters out in the 4th or 5th, then I put him in the bullpen.

    ——————

    I would agree with that. If Garcia keeps pitching like he has, then it is between Hughes/Nova to audition against each other until Colon comes back.

  19. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Thanks LGY and Luis. Nice play!

    Aww, shucks. It’s raining in Boston. AGAIN.

  20. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Hughes isn’t going to the pen.

  21. West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    It was one game, WC – and if people were so gung ho on Phil going to the pen, I see no reason why Nova can’t do it.

    ***************

    I know it was one game, I said “IF” Nova has many more games like he did the other night.

  22. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Yup, but at least is a legal game!!

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    The Yankees have said recently, Cashman or Girardi can’t recall who, that Hughes is not going to the pen.

  24. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    If Hughes pitches like he did at the beginning of the year, then he won’t be in the rotation over a thriving Nova or a sub-3.5 Garcia. It’s either shut Hughes down for the season or get an inning of 95 mph paintball.

    I’m not counting on Hughes until he returns to form. That’s the point I’m trying to make.

    And it was Cashman who said Hughes won’t be going to the pen.

  25. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Paco, you put him in the pen and you have innings issues next year. You put him in the pen and he uses his FB and cutter only. IMO, he should be over and done with the pen by now – he’s either a starter and you leave him as one or he’s a reliever and you leave him as one.

  26. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    No way Colon goes to the pen.

    I think the Yankees’ mindset is that Phil was hurt, not that he lost his job – and he’s going to get it back when he returns.

  27. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Even though I’m skeptical about Phil, there’s no way I think he’s nearly as bad as he showed early this year. He was hurt – so, like I do with 2008, I don’t even count it.

  28. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Betsy on the uptick , I like it.

  29. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    If Hughes starts ( The right thing to do IMO ), i think Nova will be sent down to keep him sharp and streched out. Even though i would like garcia to go to the pen, because i don’t think garcia represents the future of this organization, plus i think eventually the league is going to figure him out, and when that happens it’s going to be ugly.

  30. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Wow. The Boston game must be torture for the Red Sox and their faithful. The game that just won’t die!

  31. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Nova is not going down.

  32. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Hughes is not a given.

  33. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Colon might take a while.

  34. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    Hughes could take a start or 2 away from Freddy.
    Then see…

  35. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Mick,

    true, lets wait and see how Hughes performs in his rehab starts. But i don’t think he is going to the pen either

  36. austinmac June 22nd, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Their never seems to be a real surplus of pitching. Someone gets sick, hurt or otherwise unavailable. Let’s hope this time is different. Performance should determine who stays in the pen.

    Randy Choate would seem a good target with the Marlins struggling.

  37. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    The luxury of Freddy is that you can do whatever you want with him.
    Even not pitch him or release him or throw him in the pen.

  38. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    True, I don’t want to count our chickens before they hatch……..Phil still has to make it through a couple of more rehab starts and Colon is a ways away.

  39. AldotheApache June 22nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    Wow. The Boston game must be torture for the Red Sox and their faithful. The game that just won’t die!

    ——————–

    good then.

  40. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    I love this experimental team with a surplus of pitching not depending on a superstar at every spot.

  41. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Looking forward to Gordon tonight.
    His AB’s even more.

  42. austinmac June 22nd, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    —who goes to the pen—

  43. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Hughes had pain at the beginning of the season in addition to diminished velo. If that happens again, the issue won’t be where he pitches, but rather what doctors he sees.

    Based on recent reports, that’s not likely.

  44. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Hey, look who’s in the Reds’ lineup. Miguel Cairo. :)

  45. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Hey, look who’s in the Reds’ lineup. Miguel Cairo.
    =================
    He must be 50 by now.

  46. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Yeah, I was arguing with my brother who is a red sox fan ( sighs ), that the red sox might be a better team on paper, but i told him that they didn’t have any detph, look how many injuries we have already and the team is still thriving, now they have a lot of problems with their starters, i think we are going to be very happy for our pitching depth. While the best team since the yankees of 1927 are going to struggle from now on

  47. P June 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    I’m curious how the Yankees are going to deal with Jeter when he returns. There is no way to justify him hitting first at this point. Garnder is hitting over .400 since Jeter went to the DL.. Rather than Girardi hurting someones feelings and risk some animosity towards him, how much you wanna bet Jeter will be back in the lead off spot?

    It makes no sense at alll whatsoever. I don’t care about, “but he’ll get more at bats for 3000″ that’s pointless.. he is only a few hits away.. he’ll get it sooner or later.

    What are your thoughts? Who would you like to see lead off when Jeter returns?

  48. West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    No matter how it shakes out you can’t have too much pitching. We will need everybody; in between age and injuries and manipulating the rotation to get favorable match ups (hint hint Girardi no more Garcia starts against Boston).

  49. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Game is final in Boston. Red Sox lose.

    Girardi already said Jeter’s leading off. SMH at hamstringing himself, but nothing else to be expected.

    Hopefully, it will be a leadoff platoon between Gardner and Jeter.

  50. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Paco, you put him in the pen and you have innings issues next year.
    _______
    FYI–that is not how the Yankees judge innings count increase. They look at past 2 years and are concerned whether the pitcher has ever approached that level of innings before–and their concern is more for pitchers who have not fully matured (under 25).

    Hughes would not have an innings limit issue if he went to the pen.

  51. SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Hey, look who’s in the Reds’ lineup. Miguel Cairo.

    ========

    Is he still looking for his first major league homerun?

  52. Joe from Long Island June 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    I wouldn’t worry about what to do with Phil when he’s ready to come back. Something may well happen, another injury, you never know. It’s too far away to worry about it. There is no such thing as too much starting pitching, especially when that problem is a month away.

  53. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    How about a leadoff platoon with Gardner and Swisher with Jete up 2nd?

  54. SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Drew Bledsoe got hurt, Brady took his place and Bledsoe never saw his spot again. What the problem is? You snooze. You lose. Thank god my manning never gets hurt or Painter would be the next Brady.

  55. m June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    mick,

    That’s ideal. But…

  56. SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Granderson is having an MVP season. You cant have him bat in the bottom of the order.

  57. Betsy June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Bojo, ok, but that’s actually the last reason on my list as to why I wouldn’t want him going to the pen.

    Joe, true – so far, so good with Phil’s rehab, though; I’m going to cross my fingers and toes that he doesn’t hit a bump in the road.

  58. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    There is nothing gained by batting Jeter 2nd. Might as well lead him off if it’s merely about 1 or 2.

  59. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Why not Grandy up 6th to protect Cano?

  60. Giuseppe Franco June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    The first guy to go to the pen will be Gordon when Hughes comes back.

    But that’s still a good 10 days away – best case scenario – and perhaps a few weeks away from both Hughes and Colon back in the rotation.

    Pitchers go down all the time. Oftentimes, these decisions work themselves out.

  61. SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Rich,
    I thought Phil said he felt no pain and that he cant understand why his velocity was down? They called it a tired arm.

  62. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    The only way that Phil continues to develop by using all his pitches is as a starter. For all their starting depth, they don’t have top of the rotation starters except for CC (and Colon, if he continues on the current path). Hughes offers that.

  63. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
    How about a leadoff platoon with Gardner and Swisher with Jete up 2nd?
    ______
    Grandy having too good a year in the #2 spot with Tex, AROD, and Cano providing back=up so pitchers have to pitch to him.

    He is the MVP candidate that should gt as many ABs as possible.

  64. Jerkface June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    At this point you can’t displace the better #2 hitters for Jeter either. Thats why Jeter leadoff is such a quandry because against RHP he can’t go back to #2. He should be batting 9th. You don’t want to move Granderson, and if you move him down you’d want to replace him with a better bat like Cano/Swisher.

  65. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    SoS

    He has now admitted that he had pain.

  66. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    What is gained is that you get him out of the leadoff spot.
    Moving him down from 2nd will be easier than from leadoff.

  67. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    There is no difference between batting 1 and 2 v. RHP when you have Jeter’s OBP.

  68. Bret The Hitman June 22nd, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Ivan Nova has performed well enough dating back to last year to warrant continued development as a major league starter.

    As for Hughes, the Yankees will not shift him back and forth between the pen and the rotation like they did with Joba. The team has already proactively came out and stated Hughes is in the rotation when healthy and ready.

    Colon has the lowest WHIP on this team.

    I think of Garcia as the best candidate to be a Tim Wakefield – a vet junk baller who shifts from the pen to the rotation and back again almost effortlessly. Because Garcia does not rely on sustained velocity over a long game, he does not need to be kept stretched out.

    Don’t get me wrong. Versatility is a good asset to have on any pitching staff.

    Freddy Garcia is a valuable starter (as is Wakefield) but the Yankees don’t owe him a starter role. He came to camp knowing that. It’s not like he’s a young promising starter and the Yankees have to commit to developing him like Nova and Hughes. He’s a role pitcher – if there is such a thing.

    Some might feel like he’s useless in the pen because he can’t throw in the late innings. You may be right so maybe there’s a team in search of a starter who will trade for Freddy Garcia and be willing to give up that coveted lefty reliever.

    Now there’s something the Yankees really need.

  69. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Betsy,

    I guess your concern comes from being in the pen, he stops using his offspeed pitches therefore delaying or worse derailing his development

  70. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    I think the decision about who goes to the bullpen will be made based on how they wish to approach the play-offs, and who they want as their guns.

    I think CC, Colon are locks. They’ll want to see if Hughes can pitch in the play-offs and thus get him a few starts…AJ probably a lock..leaves it to Garcia versus Nova, and they may decide based on whom they feel will be their opponents.

  71. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    AJ has been pitching great ball and has the best stuff in the league.
    He won’t fall apart this season.

  72. West Coast Yankee Fan June 22nd, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    NESN just gave the star of the game to the Fenway ground crew. How clever. (rolling eyes)

  73. Yanks78 June 22nd, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Nova could also always be dealt

  74. SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Rich,
    I agree. Hughes needs to show more consistency with his pitches. He seems to fall in love with 2 and dumps the rest. What happened to that nasty curve he once had? Since he learned the cutter it went M.I.A.. Im still waiting for the POTENTIAL top of the rotation starter that we keep hearing about.

  75. Jerkface June 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Nova could also always be dealt

    They should deal him, for an upgrade somewhere and not a fleeting one. A cost controlled starter with upside for a non elite team should bring something back. Get me Choo with him somehow.

  76. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Personally, I think Joe is right and will be vindicated for his decision to start off with Dj as lead-off. I felt DJ was slowly starting to come around before his injury. I think Joe will want to see how much he has left in the tank before making the move to platoon the lead-off slot.

    I’m fine with that logic.

  77. Tom in N.J. June 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    We got Hughes and Jeter in this thread, let’s go for the great trifecta:

    Call up Montero!

  78. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Burnett’s ERA+ is 101, league average.

  79. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Girardi faced the same calls to bench Posada and Swisher, and each have come back. I have no problem with him showing patience, especially if he is seeing improvement.

  80. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Tom

    Believe it or not, I type “Call up Monter!” in every post in code!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  81. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    welcome to segment 2 everybody, I’m Michael Kay and I keep my hand in my pocket so I don’t look like a dork when i introduce my idol Paul O’Neill….put this one on the left side…SEEEE YAAAAA!

  82. Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    or Montero…

  83. luis June 22nd, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Tom in N.J. June 22nd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
    We got Hughes and Jeter in this thread, let’s go for the great trifecta:

    Call up Montero!

    ——————

    I second that, get rid of Cervelli and let start the jesus era!!

  84. Bronx Jeers June 22nd, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    “…but he’s been through tough spells in his career. He’s been through adversity. He’s been through injuries.”

    Not really. He’s definitely had injury issues the last few seasons but he was quite durable for a long time. And the adversity & tough spells were never really anything prolonged. Just normal slumps.

    I really thought he was going to thrive in this role. Maybe it was just the adjustment. I still think he can be a weapon. Hopefully his renaissance continues.

  85. SoS June 22nd, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Moving him down from 2nd will be easier than from leadoff.

    =====

    DP anyone?
    Hes batting .250 and some change. No power, no walks, not good with runners in scoring position. I said it yesterday. I think it will be like the Posada of last year situation. Where they wanted him removed from behind the plate but decided to gradually make the transition in the offseason with leaks to the media. He will move down this offseason. Not during. Batting leadoff is your very own DJ.

  86. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Girardi faced the same calls to bench Posada and Swisher,
    ======================
    Girardi is a genius, he pissed off Jorge so much he came back and Swish at #2 woke him up.

  87. mick June 22nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    make swish at #1.

  88. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Rich in NJ June 22nd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    Tom

    Believe it or not, I type “Call up Monter!” in every post in code!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    _______
    I’m sure some have it on speed dial

  89. BoJo June 22nd, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    BTW–ARod in ST predicted Garcia would win 15 with this team…he now has 6

  90. P June 22nd, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Batting Jeter lead off has hurt this team this year. Jeter has not “come around” at all. He had a couple of decent games this season but there is no way to justify moving Gardner out of leadoff just because of Jeter’s history. If it was anybody else, that player would be batting 9th by now. Let him “slowly come around” in the 9th spot.. not lead off. I think the lead off hitter influences the game tremendously.. when your lead odd hitter is doing his job and getting on it sparks the offense.. I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that we’ve been playing really good since DJ went on the DL.. his struggles is not exactly a morale booster being that he is the captain and what he represents to this team..

    Jeter is the man.. and what he’s done for this club will never be forgotten, but it’s time to start making smart baseball decisions instead of riding the nostalgia train. Unfortunately, Joe Girardi has no balls.. so I would be very surprised if DJ was not leading off the very first game he is back.

  91. P June 22nd, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Bojo,

    Personally, I think Joe is right and will be vindicated for his decision to start off with Dj as lead-off. I felt DJ was slowly starting to come around before his injury. I think Joe will want to see how much he has left in the tank before making the move to platoon the lead-off slot.

    He was “slowly starting to come around”. :) Sorry Bojo, but the keyword there was “slowly”. I didn’t see him show anything other than a good game or two, then he fell right back into his dreadful meager ground ball routine. He was batting .238 in the last 10 games before he got hurt. I wish I had your optimism, but I don’t. Jeter’s been very consistent in all of 2010 and 2011 so far.. how many more years do you want to give him to “come around” ?

    Sorry, I know people really hope for the best with Derek, and I really want to.. but his age has caught up to him it seems to me.

    .. and when you look at what Gardner is doing lead off and how this team is responding.. it’s just flat out wrong to put Jeter back at lead off.. it would be a decision to massage Jeter’s ego and nothing more if Joe keeps him there.

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