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Four wins on a six-day trip: “I’ll take that any day”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 23, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Jorge Posada shaking hands with Mariano Rivera after a Yankees win. It’s a picture that looks like something from another era, but it’s a positive picture, and regardless of what happened last night, this was a positive road trip for the Yankees.

Six games on the road, in unfamiliar parks, without a designated hitter, the Yankees won four times. They’ve won 10 of 13 since that three-game sweep against the Red Sox, and although last night leaves a sour taste, this team’s playing pretty well right now.

“If you can win two series, that’s what you’re looking to do,” Joe Girardi said. “You’re looking to win every series, and we were able to do that. You don’t like to lose the last game, but I thought our guys played pretty well on this trip.”

There were more positives than negatives this trip: Ivan Nova and Freddy Garcia were outstanding, Brett Gardner and Nick Swisher stayed hot, Posada’s trip wasn’t wasted and Cory Wade kept looking like a nice pickup. You could add plenty of kind words about Alex Rodriguez, Dave Robertson, A.J. Burnett and Robinson Cano, who’s starting to show some of the consistency he had last season.

One game doesn’t ruin a road trip, and last night certainly doesn’t ruin this one. An off day today, and another on Monday means the Yankees get a little bit of a built-in breather the next few days. That’s a good thing, as well.

“It didn’t end up the way we wanted it to,” Russell Martin said. “But I thought overall it was a good road trip. Played some good baseball day in and day our. Four and two, I’ll take it any day.”

Just a quick note: After a terrible incident yesterday morning, I’ve shuffled some plans, rented a car, and I’m now driving home to Missouri for a funeral. I have some blog stuff that I was working on yesterday to bridge the gap while I was supposed to be flying to New York, but ultimately things might be a little light today. Not sure how much I’ll be able to write when I get home. Just wanted to give you all a heads up.

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160 Responses to “Four wins on a six-day trip: “I’ll take that any day””

  1. Germfree Adolescents June 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Tex = Giambi

    Agon = Miggy/Votto

    Theo wins yet again

  2. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Sorry to hear that Chad.

    Condolences on the loss.

  3. jacksquat June 23rd, 2011 at 9:04 am

    MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 8:52 am
    Jacksquat-

    Hughes was an 18 game winner last season.

    If he’s healthy he definitely gets a spot in the rotation.

    You’re underestimating him IMO.

    Well I’m not estimating anything really. I don’t know what he will do. He was good for about 2-3 months at the beginning of last year. Poor second half last year and obviously bad this year. So I would not just hand him the spot of someone pitching well now like Colon or Garcia. Those two could regress because of their age, but I don’t like removing someone while they are pitching well because they might get worse.

  4. jonathan p June 23rd, 2011 at 9:04 am

    kevin goldstein put up an article on baseball prospectus this morning about jesus montero.
    You need to be an insider to read it….looks fantastic

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....%3d6690613

    can anyone repost?

  5. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Chad-very sorry to hear that. :(

  6. talltenor June 23rd, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Chad:

    Godspeed. Drive safely, and surround yourself with family.

  7. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Jack-

    Who said anything about Colon or Garcia ?

    Nova more likely, or maybe they skip a few guys to rest them.

    Point is that if Hughes is healthy, and I think he will be, he doesn’t have anything to prove IMO.

    My belief is that he is gonna be a lot like that 1st half guy once he shakes the rust off a bit.

    I think he is gonna be a real weapon in the 2nd half.

  8. Hassey June 23rd, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Sorry to repeat myself, but I genuinely want your opinions-

    Russell Martin’s hitting has officially become atrocius…where have the good hitting catchers gone?

    The power numbers look good, but is anyone concerned that Tex is one bad homestand away from being a .235 hitter? Has he really passed his prime already as a legit .275-.290 hitter?

  9. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Goldstein piece for those interested:

    It’s easy to miss the forest for the trees when it comes to the New York Yankees 2011 season. They’ve been riddled with injuries to important members of the roster and dealt with serious downturns in performances (and media circuses) from aging stars such as Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada, while still posting the third-best record in baseball.

    Despite their success in the standings, multiple missed opportunities around younger players are clearly costing the Yankees.

    For much of the first part of the century, the Yankees didn’t have the prospects to help the team due to some downright embarrassing drafts, but that’s not the case anymore. A combination of good picks and excellent work in the international market has transformed the system into one of baseball’s best and one that general manager Brian Cashman is happy to show public pride in while insisting that the Yankees want to keep their top prospects rather than using them as trading chips come July.

    For the first time in a long time, the Yankees actually have the kind of prospects they’ve been hoping for, but they don’t seem to know what they are doing with them.

    Brian Gordon is certainly a fantastic story, but his arrival is a perfect example of what’s going wrong in the Bronx when it comes to long-term thinking. The Yankees needed a starter, and although Gordon performed admirably, they have very good prospects in Double-A with Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances.

    If they wanted to avoid the hype train coming to town, righty Adam Warren has been surging for Triple-A Scranton and could have come in quietly in the same manner Ivan Nova arrived last year. Yet, the Yankees seem almost scared to bring them up.

    “They just don’t seem to trust their young players,” said one big league executive. “Look at what the Braves did. When they needed a warm body, they had no issue with calling on [Julio] Teheran or [Randall] Delgado, even though those guys weren’t fully big-league-ready.”

    “He looks like a player who knows he’s stuck in Pennsylvania.”
    – Talent evaluator on Jesus Montero

    Nobody is saying to call up one of the new killer Bs for good, but to go through all of the machinations for Gordon instead of leaning on what you already have for a handful of outings shows either a lack of confidence in their own prospects, or maybe more telling, an almost perverse fear of failure.

    The same applies to position players, as the Jesus Montero situation showcases some of the unique variables that the Yankees are dealing with.

    In nearly any other system, Montero would be a big leaguer and multiple scouts who have seen Montero play during his disappointing .291/.336/.414 showing at Triple-A say that there is a frustration and lack of effort to his game this year, with one talent evaluator just coming out and saying, “He looks like a player who knows he’s stuck in Pennsylvania.”

    The problem is that calling him up would mean benching Jorge Posada, and if you thought it was a kerfuffle when Posada opted out of the lineup for one day, imagine him hitting the pine for the most well-known prospect in the system.

    The team hasn’t seemed to learn that when they’ve been forced to take chances on young players, those risks have paid off.

    They’ve done nothing in the draft, with Brett Gardner representing the only regular player they’ve drafted and developed since the turn of the millenium, but they’ve thrived with their international signings. Robinson Cano was always seen as a good prospect, but never a future superstar during his minor league career. But when the Yankees gave him a shot at a job, he turned into an All-Star, and that chance only came after the team figured out what everyone else already knew, and that Tony Womack wasn’t anyone’s answer at second base.

    So a modest proposal: bring Montero up. You don’t have to bench Posada, but you do have to limit his role to get Montero consistent at-bats, while also giving Mark Teixeira the occasional day off, and you can even catch him once a week if you’d like. Sure, he’s awful back there, but so is Francisco Cervelli, and at least Montero can make up for his mistakes behind the plate when he steps up to it.

    The next time the team needs a starting pitcher, which is going to happen to any team that is not the 2005 White Sox, call on somebody you already have. Warren and David Phelps at Triple-A are every bit as good as Gordon if you don’t want to make a splash with the Double-A kids, but keep in mind that a quick one-or-two-start debut with the up front knowledge of a return ticket to Trenton regardless of the results can lessen the pressure greatly, both for the player and the fans.

    “The Yankees have made this big deal about their farm system and they seem to be afraid that if those players fail, people will start asking, ‘what have they been making such a big deal about?’,” theorized a National League executive.

    The problem is, if they don’t bring them up, the same question applies.

  10. upstate kate June 23rd, 2011 at 9:15 am

    sorry for your loss Chad

  11. Against All Odds June 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 am

    My condolences Chad

  12. ron June 23rd, 2011 at 9:18 am

    Chad.

    Thoughts & prayers.

  13. ac1 June 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Tex may be trying too hard to turn into a homerun hitter, hence the lower average…
    They seem afraid to work on his swing out of fear the homers will go away or something…
    But he should definitely learn a little something from Ortiz.
    When they shift you, bunt to 3rd and let ARod and Cano bring you in.
    Go opposite field.
    They will stop shifting as much then you open the other side again.

  14. Tom in N.J. June 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Chad,

    My deepest condolences go out to you.

  15. mick June 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 am

    sorry for your loss Chad

  16. pat June 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Travel safe.

  17. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Sorry to repeat myself, but I genuinely want your opinions-

    Russell Martin’s hitting has officially become atrocius…where have the good hitting catchers gone?

    ===============================

    He wasn’t a good offensive player for the two and half seasons before he got here, so expecting him to be a good one now is probably excessive. He made a wonderful first impression over his first 15 or so games, but that wasn’t really who he is as his regression to the mean suggests.

    That said, the pitchers seem quite comfortable with him back there, and in the end that and a little offense is really all you can ask for when you’re taking a flyer on somebody. I was not a big fan of the move when it happened, but if you reflect a little on how things might be going had they been forced to go with Cervelli/Montero instead, I think you really have to appreciate what a good idea it’s been.

  18. pat June 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Just about the time you think they have too pitching, someone “steps on a banana peel” and things work themselves out. If not, nice problem to have.

  19. ron June 23rd, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Montero needs to be brought up.

    Martin has vanished,montero is better than cervelli.

    Just like the above article said.

    “montero looks like a player that knows he is stuck in stuck in pennsylvania”.

  20. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 am

    ?He looks like a player who knows he?s stuck in Pennsylvania.?

    ************************

    I don’t know why this made me laugh so much, but it did. :lol:

  21. Shame Spencer June 23rd, 2011 at 9:31 am

    So sorry to hear about your loss, Chad. My Condolences.

    That ESPN insider article makes a few pretty good points. The only thing I disagree with is the way they equate Montero’s call up with Posada’s benching. I feel like Montero’s call up only represents cutting ties with Cervelli. Not that it would have no impact on Posada but I think its overstated. Martin shouldn’t be catching every day if he’s battling back issues and Uncle Joe doesnt like to play him in back to back day/nights either so it isn’t as if Montero wouldnt get any time behind the dish. I still say they’re waiting till after the All-Star break to make that move. I’d be pretty shocked if we don’t see Montero this year.

  22. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Mell-

    Thank you very much for posting that article.

    There is much to agree with.

  23. Hassey June 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Martin should be batting ninth, no? He’s got a little speed but outside of his first All Star year, he’s not the type of legit RBI guy that we need in the 6-7 spots. Nice guy, seems like good pitch caller, but he’s become an automatic ground ball to short…just have to hope he comes up after a passed ball or bunt keeps the DP away.

    Tex’s average is just plain disappointing, as I’m sure it is to him. Even when he goes the other way, he hits it to the 3B in the SS spot. We could use a few more guys not hitting in the .240 range

  24. upstate kate June 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am

    The pitchers seem very comfortable w/ Martin, he and AJ appear to have a good relationship. He also, from what I recall, is decent at throwing out runners.

    Martin’s back issues came about from a work out including weight lifting after a game, so I am not particularly worried about them lingering.

    I agree, I think we see Montero up before the end of the season, and it will be Cervelli that is gone.

  25. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 9:39 am

    MTU:

    My pleasure.

  26. Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 am

    I’m sorry, Chad.

    Martin may not be 100%. In any event, he seems worn down which could exacerbate any slump.

  27. NJ Pete June 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Mell – Thanks for the post. Interesting article but of the pitchers he mentioned, only Betances is on the 40 man roster. Yanks have 5 pitchers on the 60 day dl, including Hughes. When he is activated in a few weeks, someone has to go. My guess is Gordon gets dfa’d. He’s just a stop-gap.

  28. Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:47 am

    For anyone who thinks that Johan Santana is a potential trade target, via Ken Davidoff:

    The Mets can’t realistically expect Davis back this year, and you can say the same thing about Johan Santana, who is understandably utilizing caution in his rehabilitation from last September’s shoulder surgery. Given how serious Santana’s surgery was, no one quite knows what to expect from him for the duration of his career, let alone this season.

  29. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:47 am

    With the pressure of a “win now” mission statement from the Yankees we all know the margin for error, and the window of opportunity are small for rookies.

    If the Yankees would like to have more youngsters playing for them they will have to have more patience. It is rare for any young player to come to the majors 100% ready to perform.

    This is especially true with their young arms.

    What are the odds they have the patience ?

    They also need to do a better job of developing them at the minor league level so that when they do arrive the chances of success are increased.

    JMTC

  30. JM June 23rd, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Sorry for your loss, Chad. Safe travels.

    On another note, sure hope we get to see Montero soon.

  31. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am

    It would appear that the Yankee’s and the fans are on different timetables with respect to Jesus Montero.

    Everybody knows we know better than them.

    :)

  32. Mike Ri June 23rd, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Morning everyone ! . Sorry for you loss Chad

    Erik Bedard ??

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ycn-8681195

    ESPN Insider contributor Jason Churchill jumped on the rumor, stating that the Mariners might even be willing to trade Bedard to the Yankees for an offensive player. He even stated they might make that deal if they were in contention

  33. Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:52 am

    “If the Yankees would like to have more youngsters playing for them they will have to have more patience. It is rare for any young player to come to the majors 100% ready to perform.”

    MTU

    The Yankees will never win as many WS as they otherwise could unless that happens.

  34. JM June 23rd, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Lackey is statistically the ML’s worst starter…Yikes!

    Just when you thought it was safe to watch a John Lackey performance. In the fourth inning of [Wednesday's] 5-1 loss to San Diego, he looked discombobulated, having obvious problems with the rainy conditions and his grip on the baseball. He hit two batters — one with the bases loaded — walked two others — one with the bases loaded — and threw a wild pitch, also with the bases loaded. What we know is that, statistically, he is the worst pitcher in Major League Baseball with a 7.36 ERA. … [Wednesday's] elements were bad for Padres lefty Clayton Richard as well, but he allowed just one run in five innings, while Lackey (5-6) gave up five in 3 1/3. Asked about the conditions, Lackey said, “They weren’t great.” Asked if that affected the way he pitched, he said, “I don’t think I’ve ever hit anyone with the bases loaded.”

    The Boston Globe

    Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth.....z1Q6hJLhH7

  35. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Mike-

    But who is that offensive player ?

    Surely we can’t talking about anyone all that good.

    Bedard has been a rolling injury, and the fact that he is healthy currently counts for little in my book.

  36. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Rich-

    But will it IYO ?

    :)

  37. blake June 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 am

    My condolences Chad.

    Thanks.for.posting that Mell. I agree with Goldstein in theory…..but I think what Cashman is doing is keeping his trade chips in his pocket until the market forms…..I think that’s the reason for Gordon more than anything. He doesn’t want to expose or burn an option on Warrren if a team may want him in a deal if he doesn’t have to. He can sign Gordon and dump him when he’s not needed anymore rather easily…..

    I think Montero will be up soon after the trade deadline if he’s still with the organization…..and I expect him to be.

  38. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 am

    If the Mariners got themselves “into contention”… why would they trade away Bedard?

  39. Mike Ri June 23rd, 2011 at 9:57 am

    MTU –

    I have no clue bud . . . just heard about the rumor. ..

  40. Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:58 am

    MTU

    I’m an optimist, so I won’t give up hope, but as I mentioned yesterday, even at those times that I get down on Cash, I stop myself because I suspect that almost any replacement would be more of a YES man (pun intended).

  41. blake June 23rd, 2011 at 9:59 am

    “Theo wins yet again”

    When you consider that Gonzalez was traded for 2 years later…..and that the Sox gave up their 3 best prospects to get him…..im not so sure. The Yankees have a WS and kept all their future intact while signing Tex.

    Would you want Tex and the 2009 WS……or Gonzalez 2 years later minus probably Montero, Betances, and Banuelos……..? That’s the reality of the situation……not who is the better player right now……and even there they are comparable values as players.

  42. Benny Blanco June 23rd, 2011 at 9:59 am

    As much as I respect texeira, its mind-boggling that he’s not hitting 270 and better considering his contract. Arod comes here puts up insane numbers as a yankee and still gets grief from time to time. I honestly thought tex would be a better Hitter than 269 for the Yankees. He hit 303 with the Angels in 08. Were teams not shifting on him then?

  43. CBean June 23rd, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Chad, sorry for your loss. Thank you for everything you do for this blog but clearly not the priority today!

  44. blake June 23rd, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Id say push on Tex and .270. If he hits that and has 40+ homers with stellar defense then Ill take that.

  45. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Rich-

    I take that to mean that you are cautiously optimistic.

    A little guarded.

    I think that is reasonable.

    Cashman has done an excellent job of restocking the farm.

    We now have one of the best.

    That is a good thing.

    Hope the Yankees find the middle ground, so to speak.

    SJ used to say that the Yankees were great at scouting their own, and generally knowing who to keep and who to trade.

    So there’s that. We can’t possibly keep them all as you know.

  46. Shame Spencer June 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am

    kate – I hear ya on Martin but I’m gonna remain cautious with my expectations for him considering he has had a history of injury. I realize he’s recovered but he plays a tough position and I feel like I’m gonna lean towards considering him a bit of an injury risk until I see him string together a couple consecutive seasons. I know thats kinda ridiculous lol, and I like Martin a lot so I hope I’m wrong, I just take the wait and see approach.

  47. Benny Blanco June 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Blake, I agree with you. I just wish he would hit at least 270 then.

  48. blake June 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Lackey is terrible and there is really no reason to believe he will ever be much better. As I said yesterday……the Sox WS chances may ride with the back health of Josh Beckett. With him pitching great…..they have a legit 1-2 punch that would be tough in the playoffs. If he breaks down then their rotation (and bullpen) is worse than the Yanks is…..and they don’t have the depth or chips to make a deal the Yanks do either.

  49. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Great story about Montero and the Yankees via ESPN Insider.

    The Yankees have made some highly questionable decisions of late with their team and it begs the question as to why they seem so terrified to call upon anybody but bums like Brian Gordon. I don’t care if its a nice story, the guy is not a solution, and they’d do better to give guys like Phelps, Warren, Banuelos, or Betances a shot at making a few low-pressure spot starts and getting a taste of the show with the knowledge that they’ll be sent back down when Hughes and Colon get healthy.

    Then there is Montero. I hope its not true that he looks “like a guy who knows he is stuck in Pennsylvania.” What a waste of talent. If they were smart, they’d be teaching this kid to play 1B so that he can spell Tex and split DH ABs with Posada. He may be a defensive downgrade, but the experience he can gain at that level far supercedes anything he’s going to do at AAA.

    I think it is pretty much inevitable that they deal Montero this summer if the right pitcher becomes available. Otherwise, what’s the point of leaving him there in Scranton? Gardner and Cano are Yankee farmhands that worked out pretty nicely…why are they so afraid of bringing up Montero??

  50. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Tex gets on base and hits for a lot of power, I’m fine with that. He was never a true .300 hitter and the yankees acquired him coming out of his prime.

  51. MTU June 23rd, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Blake-

    I think you are correct.

    Cashman is waiting for the market to form and keeping his cards close the vest in the meantime.

    He is nothing if not patient.

  52. blake June 23rd, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Martin has been better than expected this year…..it was a great sign even if he never picks it up with the bat again. They aren’t having to play Cervelli every game like they did last year and he should be a perfect partner for Montero when/if they ever finally call him up.

  53. blake June 23rd, 2011 at 10:11 am

    “I think it is pretty much inevitable that they deal Montero this summer if the right pitcher becomes available.”

    Duh….none of those guys will be available though it doesn’t seem. Cashman seems like a guy that is very hesitant to interupt a guys minor league development for one game in the middle of the summer…..after the deadline they will likely handle things differently ….but right now they are evaluating and waiting.

  54. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Cashman seems like a guy that is very hesitant to interupt a guys minor league development for one game in the middle of the summer

    Its actually better to be a less than hype-A list prospect on the yankees, because it increases the chances that the yankees will throw your development to the wolves and call you up for emergencies. The Yankees never go ‘you know what? Lets have our best prospect get a taste.” unless the taste has potential to stick (hughes etc)

    Cano, Melky, the pitchers that get called up are never their best prospects

  55. Hassey June 23rd, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Jerkface-

    What?

    http://www.baseball-reference......ma01.shtml

  56. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I didn’t say he never hit .300, I said he isn’t a true .300 hitter. I think he can hit .270/.280 for the Yankees.

  57. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:19 am

    He spent his formative years in Arlington, which has a very nice hit park factor. Yankee stadium actually depresses hits or is neutral. It gives up more HRs to lefties but the park is actually pretty neutral overall.

  58. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Its actually better to be a less than hype-A list prospect on the yankees, because it increases the chances that the yankees will throw your development to the wolves and call you up for emergencies

    ==================

    Sure, but Phelps and Warren aren’t that type of prospect. No harm in using one of them as a fill in starter over a retread like Gordon.

  59. Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 10:23 am

    “…..it was a great sign even if he never picks it up with the bat again”

    Unless it somehow persuades them to trade Montero, blake. In which case, it was an awful signing.

  60. Hassey June 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 am

    JF – I hope so, but it sure seems like his BA window is closing. With his walks, I’d like to see him hit 2, Cano 3, Arod 4 and Granny 5

  61. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Cano can hit 3 when he gets on base like 2010

  62. CountryClub June 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Half of that Goldstein article is ridiculous. Betances and Banuelos are struggling this yr in AAA…yet the Yanks are supposed to bring them up to the majors? Both have high upsides and you dont throw either away because of a bad half season. But you also dont promote them two levels. His point about Phelps and Warren (and I’ll throw Noesi in there) are more realistic. But Phelps is now on the DL, so you can scratch him off the list.

    The yanks arent bringing up Montero to be a part time player. So it’s not enough to just replace Cervelli as the back up, he’d have to replace Posada as DH for most games too. And since Posada has been hitting well for about a month now, there isnt an urgency there.

  63. Triple Short of a Cycle June 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Jerkface,

    They expected 280 – 290 when they got him. Not 250

    So Tex wasn’t in his prime when they got him at age 29 but Agon was in his prime at age 28 when they got him?

  64. Niblick June 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Let’s once and for all disabuse ourselves of the notion that the Yankees have a major league bench. They don’t.

    Cervelli, Nunez and Pena have OPS of .501, .670 and .500, respectively. Jones isn’t much better at .689.

    Cervelli, Nunez and Pena have played a total of 422 innings, and have made 16 errors, one error for every 26 innings. The rest of the team? 5,554 innings and 31 errors, ore one error every 179 innings.

    More than anything else, the Yanks need bench players who can be used to give the regulars a rest as needed.

  65. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Yankee stadium actually depresses hits or is neutral. It gives up more HRs to lefties but the park is actually pretty neutral overall

    ==============================

    Hasn’t been at nuetral for Teixeira. As a Yankee, he’s been a far superior hitter, both for power and average, at the Stadium.

  66. CountryClub June 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 am

    I meant struggling in AA

  67. ericns1 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Chad – condolences on your loss – take care

  68. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Hasn’t been at nuetral for Teixeira. As a Yankee, he’s been a far superior hitter, both for power and average, at the Stadium.

    He was a bad hitter on the road in 2010 but this year he is hitting the same on the road/home

  69. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am

    The article didn’t call for ALL of the prospects to be given a chance right away. It accurately pointed out how reluctant the Yankees are to give their own developed players a real shot.

    Why are shlubs like Gordon, Carlyle, Marquez et al getting opportunities when Warren, for example doesn’t get a start or two? It doesn’t make sense to me either.

  70. Triple Short of a Cycle June 23rd, 2011 at 10:31 am

    CountryClub,

    “The yanks arent bringing up Montero to be a part time player”

    Then why was he competing for the backup job in spring training?

  71. CountryClub June 23rd, 2011 at 10:32 am

    As long as Teix keeps hitting HR’s, driving in runs and his OBP high, I couldnt care less what his avg is. And he’s great in the field too.

    What kind of player will he be in 4 years? Who knows; but right now he’s an all star player.

  72. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 10:32 am

    *Hasn’t been at ALL nEUtral for Teixeira…..

  73. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:32 am

    They expected 280 – 290 when they got him. Not 250

    So Tex wasn’t in his prime when they got him at age 29 but Agon was in his prime at age 28 when they got him?

    He was in his prime, but exitting it. That is the price paid for signing good free agents, they aren’t going to be in their prime. He also hit .290 at age 29. He was really banged up in 2010 and we haven’t seen how Tex will finish out this year. July, August, Sept/Oct are his best months historically.

  74. CountryClub June 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Triple Short,

    Maybe he never was. Teams tell players all sorts of things to motivate them. Who knows what they really intended for him (not the media, that’s for sure).

  75. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 am

    .301 .389 .581 .970
    .266 .362 .490 .853

    This is Tex’s home/road splits for his career, so I dunno… maybe the Yankees should have thought about that? They won a WS with Tex and will win more with him, I don’t think Tex is the problem.

    To take advantage in NYS, Tex needs to hit HRs since the short RF hurts him with the shift/athletic RFers being able to track down his pulled flyballs.

  76. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 am

    blake,

    I don’t think that giving a guy like Phelps, Warren, or Banuelos the opportunity to make a spot start is in any way disrupting to their minor league development. They simply need to make it clear to him that it is a spot start or two and that they’ll be sent back.

    It gives them a taste of the majors and would theoretically motivate them even more regardless of whether they were successful or get pounded. Just my take, but it seems like there is higher upside to giving these guys a chance over someone like Gordon.

  77. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Mell,

    “Sure, but Phelps and Warren aren’t that type of prospect. No harm in using one of them as a fill in starter over a retread like Gordon.”

    Exactly my point. Gordon is a waste of time and innings that could be used for developmental and experience-related purposes.

  78. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am

    40 man roster management has been a consistent problem in the bronx, but that is to be expected given the amount of long year/big money deals they give out. The Yankees can obviously cut some guys from the 40 man, but filling those spots with prospects mean they lose the ability to rotate stop gaps through those spots. If a prospect sinks it further gums up the works. The Yankees can’t run their 40 man like the royals

  79. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am

    On the list of concerns about this team Tex’s batting average ranks around # 156

  80. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am

    If Gordon fails they can cut him/dump him. If Warren fails they option him and you lose a 40 man spot.

  81. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Gordon isn’t even a retread — he’s a non-tread.

    Warren would be making that next start if it were up to me… but I do like Cory Wade

  82. West Coast Yankee Fan June 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 am

    My condolences Chad.

  83. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am

    The 40-man roster includes Buddy Carlyle, Brian Gordon, Kanekoa Texiera, Ryan Pope, Steve Garrison and Ryan Pope…. none of whom is irreplaceable.

  84. Niblick June 23rd, 2011 at 10:45 am

    You said Ryan Pope twice. I like Ryan Pope. (With apologies to Mel Brooks.)

  85. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am

    The 40-man roster includes Buddy Carlyle, Brian Gordon, Kanekoa Texiera, Ryan Pope, Steve Garrison and Ryan Pope…. none of whom is irreplaceable.

    Yes, but not all of them can be replaced by legit prospects because you run out of spots eventually or are forced to have bad pitchers hang around when they could be pitching in the minors.

  86. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:47 am

    There are players the yankees could / should replace on the 40 man, but they would have to commit to play the guys that replace them through thick and thin, and the yankees just don’t do that *right now*

    They want maneuvering room for trades/waiver pick ups.

  87. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Jesus Montero has a .750 OPS in AAA and his defense is not stable enough for big games in a playoff stretch. If he finds his power stroke and settles into a comfort zone, they are more likely to overlook the risks involved with him catching games with the big league staff.

    I’ve never seen fans pine so hard for a player who is playing mediocre baseball in AAA.

  88. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 am

    86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
    The 40-man roster includes Buddy Carlyle, Brian Gordon, Kanekoa Texiera, Ryan Pope, Steve Garrison and Ryan Pope?.

    ***********************

    There are two Ryan Popes??? ;)

  89. Tom in N.J. June 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 am

    I’ve seen fans pine for worse players.

    David DeJesus comes to mind.

  90. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 am

    A player doing well in the minors means it makes more logical ‘sense’ to bring them up, but its no guarantee of success. Neither is not being awesome at the minor league level a guarantee of failure. Montero has already tore up AAA for a couple of months. He is hitting for average, the power did not disappear.

  91. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Maybe calling him up would motivate Jesus. He seems goal oriented and is probably looking at his current situation and wondering what it takes to replace a guy like Cervelli.

  92. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 am

    David Jesus career numbers are right there with Nick Swisher’s.

  93. GreenBeret7 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 am
    86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
    The 40-man roster includes Buddy Carlyle, Brian Gordon, Kanekoa Texiera, Ryan Pope, Steve Garrison and Ryan Pope?.

    ***********************

    There are two Ryan Popes???

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    maybe he wants to fire the Trenton pitching coach, Justin Pope.

  94. upstate kate June 23rd, 2011 at 10:55 am

    but does he make those acrobatic catches in RF?

  95. Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 10:55 am

    .200 .333 .347 .680 May

    .179 .298 .179 .477 June

    That’s not a ML starting catcher.

  96. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Back to the subject.

    Jesus Montero is striking out far more than he is walking. He is not hitting the ball hard. He is not being patient. His glove is not ready for a playoff stretch.

    How much help do you really think he offers?

    What has Posada hit in the month of June?

    Can Montero top that?

  97. ron June 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 am

    I just don’t see anybody worth it at the td that we should trade montero for.

    Yes if king felix,maybe a few others or even a stud outfielder,

    But to trade him for a bedard,weaver,etc…,i wouldn’t do it unless i get a young stud in return,wich i don’t see happening,but you never know.

    About montero.
    We should just bring him up,after the trading deadline & trade cervelli.

    Cervelli gives us no offense & is hurting us defensively.makes no sense at all.

    Scrap gordon & give warren or someone else a start or two.

    He is not the answer.
    Maybe if he was 24 years old.

  98. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 10:58 am

    jimbaumbach Judge in Clemons case rules that George Mitchell’s lawyers must turn over their notes from interviews with Brian McNamee and Kirk Radomski.

  99. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Jeff Karstens is 4-4, 2.54 —- the Yanks gave him 9 starts

    Tyler Clippard has an ERA of 1.90 — the Yanks gave him 6 starts

    Ian Kennedy is 8-2, 2.90 — the Yanks gave him 12 starts

    Impatience with young players, particularly starting pitchers is a long time organizational weakness.

    There is no reason whatsoever to have Brian Gordon making starts ahead of Adam Warren, none.

  100. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 11:03 am

    How much help do you really think he offers?

    What has Posada hit in the month of June?

    =================================

    More about what Cervelli offers.

    One thing Montero has done well in AAA is hit left handed pitching. I think some argument could be made for allowing him to DH against LHP’s and maybe grab a start or two behind the plate each week. Cervelli just gives you nothing at this point.

  101. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:04 am

    86,

    Excellent post…but how many losses would those young arms have stockpiled before they reached the point where they’re at now? How many of those losses would’ve been back-breaking losses. The Pirates, Nationals and D-backs (to a lesser extent) can afford to have pitchers stink for 1 or 2 seasons before they pan out. Unfortunately we don’t have that luxury.

    However, I do get the feeling that the Yankees stash players in the minors hoping to protect their trade value.

    Melancon and Dunn didn’t get much of a shot either so add them to your list.

  102. RayVT June 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Posada has shown he can play 1B & he can hit. Pena & Cervelli have shown they aren’t ready to be backups. A Jones’ time has passed and when Chavez comes back Jones should be released. Nunez has shown he is a very capable backup at SS, 2B & even OF. Montero is better than Cervelli & Martin needs to get some more rest.

    Chavez may be back to relieve Pena.
    Montero replaces Cervelli.

    There are roughly 90 games left in regular season:

    C – Martin (60 games) Montero (30 Games) (with Martin as Defensive replacement)
    1B – Tex (80 Games) Posada 10 Games
    2B – Cano (85 Games) Nunez (5 Games)
    SS – Jeter (80 Games) Nunez (10 Games)
    3B – ARod (75 Games) Chavez (15 Games)
    LF – Gardner (75 Games) Nunez (15 Games) (Dickerson BU)
    CF – Granderson (85 Games) Gardner (5 Games) (Dickerson BU)
    RF – Swisher (80 Games) Dickerson (10 Games)
    DH – Posada (60 Games) Montero (20 Games) (ARod/Others 10 Games)

  103. ac1 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 am

    The argument isnt Montero vs. Posada, it is Montero vs. Cervelli.

  104. Shame Spencer June 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Cano was kind of a mediocre AAA player… there could be something to the idea that playing against better competition makes a player better. I’m sure being around some vets who’ll be lighting a fire under your a** wouldn’t hurt either.

  105. Triple Short of a Cycle June 23rd, 2011 at 11:07 am

    86w183,

    Find me someone that isn’t pitching in the NL

  106. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Mell,

    Cervelli plays once every 5 games so it IS about what Posada is doing more than it is about how much more productive Montero would be than Cervelli. They’re not going to call up one of the best prospects in baseball to play sporadically. If Montero were crushing the ball, they might squeeze him in…but he’s not. They want him to get as much playing time as possible. Despite his 2nd half streak in AAA last year, he has not mastered that level of play. Too many K’s. Not enough BB’s. Not hitting the ball hard. That type of performance indicates he needs more time, not a part time role.

  107. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 am

    It’s not Montero vs. Cervelli. Montero needs MORE playing time, not LESS.

  108. GreenBeret7 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Why don’t you give Adam Warren a little time? He signed 3 years ago and has less than one year of AA and AAA experience and two years pro experience total.

  109. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Cervelli plays once every 5 game

    Maybe that has more to do with Cervelli. If they had a better backup Martin would get more rest. Jesus is the answer.

  110. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Martin is getting more rest than he got with the Dodgers. He’s on pace for 124 games. Do you want to subtract a whopping 20 games from that total and give them to Jesus Montero?

    Still not enough time.

  111. LGY June 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Boston has gotten more offensive production out of the catching position than the Yankees have.

  112. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Well I wasn’t going to list every arm the Yanks have moved, and I’m not saying I disagreed with all of the moves. Just pointing out it’s habitual dating back to the likes of Doug Drabek and Ted Lilly.

    On the Montero argument, I’m fine with a top prospect playing every day in AAA rather than 2X a week in the bigs. But they do need to find an upgrade from Cervelli.

  113. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Martin is getting more rest than he got with the Dodgers. He’s on pace for 124 games. Do you want to subtract a whopping 20 games from that total and give them to Jesus Montero?

    Yes, let Martin catch 100 games and Montero 60. Martin missed time, he was on pace for 140 before he hurt his back and Cervelli caught 8 of 9 games.

  114. RayVT June 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 am

    90 games is roughly 13 weeks. In 13 weeks playing Montero 50 games at C & DH is roughly half time or about 4 games a week. Throw in a PH or two and even some play in a blow out and he is getting real experience in real playoff contention atmosphere. After Sept 1st, Cervelli could come back up & play some if needed.

    Martin needs rest for the playoffs & Montero needs MLB experience. It is a no brainer IMO. Of course I thought Montero should have been up already.

  115. ron June 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Montero is batting .291 with a .748 ops.

    On the road i believe i read his numbers are better for some reason,over .800 ops.

    Yes he can be doing a little better,for his own good but how can he do any worse than cervelli?

    Also there is a great opportunity to get him some ab as a dh.
    Martin also misses a lot of time.

  116. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 am

    New Jersey mayor won’t grant a liquor license to a new bar that wants to call itself Buck Foston’s.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesi.....ihGyGZVxCM

  117. GreenBeret7 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 am

    1st Baseman has been promoted from Charleston to Tampa and catcher/3rd baseman/outfielder JR Murphy has been promoted to Tampa. Catcher Kyle Higashioka was sent from Tampa to Charleston.

  118. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 am

    What?

    That team has played 73 games. 89 more to go. You want to give Montero 60 of those and Martin 29 more GP for 2011? Are you turning this argument into Montero vs. Martin? One guy is a lynchpin in keeping together this staff. The other is 21 years old, still learning the position, not taking BB’s in AAA and K’ing in AAA and not hitting the ball hard in AAA.

  119. BoJo June 23rd, 2011 at 11:19 am

    sorry for your loss Chad

  120. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Cervelli plays once every 5 game
    =================

    He was on the DL the 1st month of the year. Since returning on 5/1, he’s started 16 of the Yankees 48 games. That’s one out of every three.

    Give Montero one start every three games and the DH spot against LHP’s, and he’ll be getting pretty regular at bats at the big league level and almost certainly top the Blutarsky results (0.0) that Cervelli is putting up.

  121. GreenBeret7 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 am

    1st Baseman ***Kyle Roller*** has been promoted from Charleston to Tampa

  122. RSM June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    “New Jersey mayor won’t grant a liquor license to a new bar that wants to call itself Buck Foston’s.”

    That just means the correct politician hasn’t been greased accordingly.

  123. Triple Short of a Cycle June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I was just looking back at the 2005 draft. What did we see in CJ Henry to draft him? I remember scratching my head at that pick and most scouts were curious about the pick as well.

    We passed up Ellsbury,Garza,Rasmus,Buckholz and Lowrie to draft this kid.

    Was Cash in charge at this point or was it the following draft that he took over?

  124. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    How can you give Montero AB’s at DH after Posada’s June? You are banking on Montero outproducing Jorge Posada. You can give him Cervelli’s AB’s, but that is not nearly enough time.

  125. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    He only started that many games because Martin then became hurt. Cervelli plays one out of 4 or 5 games is not a big deal.

    It’s not Montero vs Cervelli. I’m pretty sure Montero isn’t down there seasoning to be a back up.

  126. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    That team has played 73 games. 89 more to go. You want to give Montero 60 of those and Martin 29 more GP for 2011? Are you turning this argument into Montero vs. Martin? One guy is a lynchpin in keeping together this staff. The other is 21 years old, still learning the position, not taking BB’s in AAA and K’ing in AAA and not hitting the ball hard in AAA.

    No I meant in a general sense. Going forward I’d catch Montero twice a week and DH him twice a week and pinch hit him alot.

  127. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    LGY — Not true.

    Salty + Varitek = 8 HR, 35 RBI, 0 SB

    Martin + Cervy = 10 HR, 41 RBI, 10 SB

    Boston’s tandem does have a slightly better BA, but is not more productive

  128. LGY June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Who are we trading for DeJesus?

  129. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:22 am

    I’m pretty sure Montero isn’t down there seasoning to be a back up.

    Its asking a lot for Montero to come up and be the full time starter. He can get playing time as a backup.

  130. Mell June 23rd, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Martin missed time, he was on pace for 140 before he hurt his back and Cervelli caught 8 of 9 games.
    =========================

    The 140 pace early on was probably as much about not wanting to use the Molina who wasn’t a real Catching Molina as it was anything else. Hot start the first 15-16 games probably was part of it too.

  131. LGY June 23rd, 2011 at 11:24 am

    LGY —Not true. Salty + Varitek = 8 HR, 35 RBI, 0 SB Martin + Cervy = 10 HR, 41 RBI, 10 SB Boston’s tandem does have a slightly better BA, but is not more productive

    ——

    Um, yeah it is.

    Yankee catchers: 224/324/384

    Boston catchers: 242/319/402

  132. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 11:24 am

    He can get playing time as the backup next year, because Martin isn’t going anywhere.

  133. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:24 am

    What about Jones or Chavez at DH vs. lefties? Is Jesus Montero going to outproduce those guys?

  134. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Yankee catchers wOBA – .327
    RedSox Catchers wOBA -.322

    Yankees = more productive.

  135. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 am

    He can get playing time as the backup next year, because Martin isn’t going anywhere.

    So now he is a backup? Don’t flip flop so hard. he can backup this year AND next year. Further delaying his acclimation to the big leagues hurts the franchise.

  136. RayVT June 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I outlined above how Montero could get 50 games in out of 90 to play w/o really affecting Martin or Posada much.

    See Above:
    RayVT June 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Would you want Cervelli catching a playoff game or Montero? Who would you rather have PH i a playoff game Jones or Montero?

  137. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Cervelli sucks. No if, ands, or buts.

    He contributes nothing to this team at the plate and minimally behind it.

    Absolutely no reason not to get a guy like Montero up there to split ABs with Posada, and spell Martin behind the plate. Plus, Tony Pena, Girardi, and Martin are and were quality catchers…you’d think the Yankees would know that these guys could mentor him while he is at the major league level.

  138. BoJo June 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Rich in NJ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:47 am
    For anyone who thinks that Johan Santana is a potential trade target, via Ken Davidoff:

    The Mets can’t realistically expect Davis back this year, and you can say the same thing about Johan Santana, who is understandably utilizing caution in his rehabilitation from last September’s shoulder surgery. Given how serious Santana’s surgery was, no one quite knows what to expect from him for the duration of his career, let alone this season.
    _______
    Thanks for the update Rich—DARN!

  139. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 am

    There is no rush to bring him up this year if he can’t possibly get the full playing time next year anyway.

  140. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 am

    LGY,

    You can pick up DeJesus for scrap right now.

    Would you rather have Andrew Jones?

    Is Jones going to come anywhere near hitting the baseball when he faces playoff quality pitchers?

  141. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Mad Prince – If they could mentor him, why has Cervelli taken such a turn for the worse? Because they don’t have time to babysit the backup catcher.

  142. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:28 am

    There is no rush to bring him up this year if he can’t possibly get the full playing time next year anyway.

    heh, you’re ignoring the multitude of ways he can get full playing time. Montero as a backup catcher and DH the rest of the time maximizes his assets for the yankees.

  143. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am

    I think Montero can stay on the field better than Chavez, hit better, and definitely hit better than Andruw Jones.

  144. LGY June 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Yankee catchers wOBA –.327 RedSox Catchers wOBA -.322 Yankees = more productive.

    ——-

    So it depends on what numbers you go with.

    Whatever way you slice it, it’s pretty funny that the production is so close given all the talk on here about how awful the Red Sox catching situation is and how genius it was to steal Martin away from them.

  145. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Jesus Montero is now primarily a DH? If not, I want to hear the case for why the Yankees should not stick with Russell Martin as the full time catcher.

  146. 86w183 June 23rd, 2011 at 11:32 am

    OPS is not the same as productivity. More HR and more RBI means more productivity

  147. LGY June 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Rich may have been right from the beginning.

    The Yankees should have been looking to sell high on Martin instead of looking to move Montero for pitching.

  148. LGY June 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am

    More HR and more RBI means more productivity

    ——

    I’m pretty sure this isn’t true.

  149. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Bret the Hitman,

    There is absolutely no reason why the Yankees shouldn’t stick with Martin behind the dish. That guy is awesome back there.

    But they should bring up Montero as a backup even if they take a hit defensively…I mean, how often would he even be back there.

    Then he can split DH ABs with Posada and maybe even work on his defense at 1B.

    I’m tired of Cervelli…he is a joke.

  150. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am

    swbyankeesTT For the second time in, I think, three days, Mark Prior threw out in left field. Still, nobody quite sure how long he’ll remain on DL.

  151. Jerkface June 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Jesus Montero is now primarily a DH?

    The Yankees could use him there while closing out Martin’s arbitration eligible seasons and figuring out if Montero can hold down the position while also getting Montero acclimated to the majors under less duress and allowing him to gel with the pitching staff.

    How often do 21-22 year olds come up and become full time catchers right away?? The Yankees have everything to gain from employing a veteran solid player like Martin as the primary catcher while breaking in Montero. They can always increase play time as appropriate.

  152. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Irreverant Discourse,

    Martin will give us a vast majority of the starts behind the dish. My point about Pena, Girardi, and Martin is that they will be able to provide just as much insight and feedback about Montero’s catching abilities as anyone in Scranton will at this point.

    He’s probably not a catcher long term anyways.

    My point is, his bat and upside is exponentially greater than Cervelli’s. It is time to remove the shrink wrap.

  153. RayVT June 23rd, 2011 at 11:37 am

    BTW, if Montero stays down in AAA they only have 75 more games remaining including 6+ or so doubleheaders. So being with the Yanks he could easily play in 50 of the Yanks remaining 90 or most likely 70 of 75 SWB remaining games. I think he belongs in NY.

  154. Bret The Hitman June 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I’m tired of Cervelli as well. But he will only play once every 5 games from now on provided Martin remains healthy.

    I disagree that Posada (especially with the way he’s been hitting) should ‘split’ time with a guy who appears locked in cruise control in AAA.

    How many lefty starters will the Yankees face? Enough to warrant cutting Montero’s playing time in half when Montero seems to be communicating that he clearly needs more playing time down there in Scranton?

  155. Erin June 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am

    New Post: Yankees still leading baseball’s biggest popularity contest

    :arrow:

  156. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes June 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Bret,

    I hear you regarding the splitting of ABs…I guess I’m just trying to find a gentle way of phasing out Jorge.

    I love Posada…LOVE the guy. But the end is near. There’s no denying that.

  157. Irreverent Discourse June 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am

    maximizes his assets for the yankees.

    jerkface – that may be true of montero, but then it would not be true of the rest of the roster.

  158. leeteam June 23rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    My condolences for your loss. I will keep you and your family in prayer.

  159. Sigmund June 23rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    As a true Yankees fan, I will vote for all Red Sox players to make the All-Star Team. The very last thing a player needs, in the midst of a marathon season, is to play yet another damn game. Even with World Series home-field advantage at stake, it’s still the 163rd most important game of the season — in other words, just about meaningless. So please, all Yankees fans, stop voting for people on your team! Vote Red Sox — early and often.

  160. Wang IS Taiwan June 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Gosh, Chad. I hope things go as well as they can at home. Something like that immediately puts sports into perspective.

    Take care.

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