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Game 77: Yankees vs. Brewers

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Jun 28, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES (45-31)
Brett Gardner LF
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez SS

RHP Freddy Garcia (6-6, 3.30)
Garcia vs. Brewers

BREWERS (44-35)
Rickie Weeks 2B
Nyjer Morgan CF
Ryan Braun LF
Prince Fielder 1B
Casey McGehee 3B
Corey Hart RF
Mat Gamel DH
Yuniesky Betancourt SS
Jonathan Lucroy C

RHP Zack Greinke (7-2, 4.77)
Greinke vs. Yankees

TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m., YES Network / MLB Network

WEATHER: Pretty nice night here at Yankee Stadium. Little bit of a breeze blowing from right to left.

UMPIRES: HP Fieldin Culbreth, 1B Gary Cederstrom, 2B Adrian Johnson, 3B Alan Porter

ALL-STAR NUMBERS: Dave Robertson has a 1.15 ERA, the second lowest among all Major League pitchers with at least 30 innings pitches. Only Cleveland’s Rafael Perez (1.13) has a lower ERA. Robertson is averaging 1.6 strikeouts per inning.

SERIES WINS: The Yankees have won each of their past five series since June 10, going 12-4 in that stretch immediately after being swept at home by Boston. In those 16 games, the Yankees have averaged 5.81 runs and 9.81 hits. The pitching staff has a 3.29 ERA in that span.

HIP HIP: In his past 17 games — since June 5 — Jorge Posada is batting .420 with four doubles, two homers, eight RBI and a .455 on-base percentage. Before that, he was hitting .169 with six doubles, six homers and 17 RBI in 44 games.

ONE AWAY: Alex Rodriguez has at least one RBI in his past six games, one game shy of his career-long streak (which he’s accomplished four times, most recently in 2007).

UPDATE, 7:17 p.m.: Garcia wiggles out of trouble in the first, stranding runners at second and third.

UPDATE, 7:21 p.m.: I’ll say this much for Nyjer Morgan: That ball off Ramiro Pena’s chest followed by the throw into the dirt by Eduardo Nunez is still the worst play I’ve ever seen in professional baseball. Morgan’s stumble might be second, but that Pena/Nunez play was kind of hilarious. Anyway, it’s 2-0 Yankees in the first.

UPDATE, 7:58 p.m.: The Yankees are clobbering Greinke already. Capped by Nick Swisher’s three-run homer, the Yankees have scored five runs in the second inning and already have a 7-0 lead.

UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: Greinke didn’t even come out for the third inning. The Brewers are already into their bullpen. This would be a good spot for Sergio Mitre, no?

UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: As usual, terrific job by the scoreboard crew, showing a clip from Major League — “Juuuuuust a bit outside” — then cutting to Bob Uecker in the Brewers broadcast booth.

Meanwhile, the Brewers scratched out two runs in the fourth. Yankees now leading 7-2.

UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: With an 11-2 Yankees lead, the Brewers have pulled Fielder and Weeks. It’s a blowout, and the Brewers are waved a white flag here in the seventh inning. The Yankees meanwhile, have Dickerson ready to hit for Granderson.

 
 

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388 Responses to “Game 77: Yankees vs. Brewers”

  1. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Go Freddy! Go Cliff Lee ! (I hate saying that)

  2. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Let’s go Yankees ! ! ! Take Greinke to the woodshed !

  3. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    I hope both Lee and Beckett get hammered and the Phillies win in the 18th inning.

  4. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    There are deals to be made.

    You can get this right handed power hitter right now who is the active NL assists leader in LF.

    Who is he???

    Blake- I know you were thinking of him. Of course longevity has played a part in the # assists. It’s Carlos Lee!

  5. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Vineyard,

    I don’t want to sign Liriano to a 10 year contract…..I just want to get him short term if its a fair price.

  6. ryanm June 28th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    F***! Not Fieldin Culbreth! F’ing worthless umpire.

  7. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Trader,

    El Cabillo! Eh….that would be a lot of cash to take on for a guy well past his prime.. He’s owed 19 million next year too….

  8. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    5 pitch 1st inning for Lee

  9. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Jesus. I knew from the beginning that you couldn’t depend on Garcia. He’s already given up a hit.

  10. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Blake:

    Gotcha, the rub their is a ‘fair’ price. Everyone seems to hold up The Yankees for more than players are worth. I responded to you on the prior thread.

  11. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    vineyard,

    its a fair point….who knows what they would ask for him but I just don’t see teams giving a whole lot for him…..we’ll find out soon enough because I do think he will be traded before July 31

  12. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    If Cliff Lee is on, he’s going to tear through that Sox lineup. A guy like him can pitch around Gonzalez AND Youkilis with McDonald and Varitek batting 5th and 6th

  13. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Good job getting out of jam.

  14. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    phew

  15. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Great job by Freddy doing what he does…..using hitters aggresiveness against them.

  16. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Hit , Hit batter, Wild pitch, Hanging sliders, Strikeout. I think I better close my eyes. Don’t know if I can take much more of this!! LOL

  17. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Greinke can’t pitch in NY!

  18. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    We’ve seen Garcia struggle a bit in the first inning before. He has so many offspeed pitches that it takes a little while to figure out what’s working and what’s not, and where he has to make adjustments. When he gets through the first couple innings unscathed, he generally rolls through the rest of the game.

    If he doesn’t get shelled early, there’s a good chance Garcia’s going to give you a quality start. The stats show that last year as well with the White Sox.

  19. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Yankees will now score this inning!!

  20. Benny Blanco June 28th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    I’ll take it…

  21. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    wow what was that…..

  22. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    We’ll take it.

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    will take it

  24. Benny Blanco June 28th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    247 BA makes me cringe……

  25. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    nice job Tex…..that’s all we needed.

  26. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    If I were Greinke I’m coming back into the dugout a pullng a Zambrano on Morgan. One needs to release hostility!!

  27. Benny Blanco June 28th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    nice hitting by alex…just slapped it..

  28. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Greinke read my lips- F Bomb

  29. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    a shift for a righty…..that’s why you don’t do it….especially on a guy that can hit the ball the other way…..that was strange.

  30. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Agreed. They should try their best to move him and get something for him. (Before his arm falls off)

  31. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Normally I hate those triples that are fielding mistakes, but if it gets Grandy a hit, I’m good.

  32. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    great first inning by the yanks

  33. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    I read somewhere that Greinke doesn’t talk to his teammates. That guy would never survive New York.

  34. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Questionable strikes

  35. pat June 28th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    If my teammates played defense like that behind me when I was pitching, I wouldn’t talk to them either. :wink:

  36. doubla06 June 28th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Despite the Brewers looking like the three stooges, they will be one of the last two teams standing the the National League (the Phillies being the other)

  37. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Who leads the Yankees this year with RISP and 2 outs?

  38. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    I knew the Yankees would crush Greinke. He’s not long for this game.

  39. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    banuelos has 3 K’s through 2 IP’s. no score in that game.

  40. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Good one, pat.

  41. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    it’s fun watching hitters jump out in front of Freddy’s pitches and hit pop up after pop up

  42. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Morgan slipped but he didn’t track that ball correctly from the start.

  43. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Dom Brown just took Beckett deep 2-0 Phillies

  44. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Freddy !

  45. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Better inning from Freddie!

  46. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    I forgot the Dodgers still owed Jones 11 million. No wonder he’s always smiling

  47. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    I told you that garcia was aces, A CY Old candidate.

  48. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Garcia makes me really nervous when he pitches – so far so good keeping them off balance. It’s all about command with him and not making too many mistakes in the zone.

  49. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Liriano had surgery on his elbow, not shoulder, but he did have shoulder pain this year the twins blamed on Liriano not doing his offseason workouts. I’d trade for him and pray his elbow holds up until after the PS and go into the next year with my fingers crossed. Though any shoulder discomfort can be worrying.

  50. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    UGH!!! Why can’t Nunez try working for walks?

  51. doubla06 June 28th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Any of us would trade for him and keep our fingers crossed Jerk, the question is, what do you trade for him?

  52. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    UGH!!! Why can’t Nunez try working for walks?

    If he did and added that dimension to his game it would make him a really great player. Good advice.

  53. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Brewers have a lot of beef at 1st and 3rd!.

  54. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    hit Brett….

  55. kd June 28th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    is it just me or are the yankees back to grinding out at bats? seems to me that the starters are not going as deep into games?

    it’s a step in the right direction

  56. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    good AB by Gardner so far

  57. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Montero is 0-1 but has thrown out a base stealer. He has taken two fouls to the mask so far, though.

  58. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Pretty classic PA by Gardner

  59. blake June 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    great AB

  60. igotid88 June 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Great AB by Gardner

  61. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Way to work the count. Don’t hit your hitting instructor.

    Now double steal get him rattled

  62. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    that’s twice Grandy has fouled it off his legs tonight

  63. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    “is it just me or are the yankees back to grinding out at bats?”

    I think with Swisher and Posada getting hot, the lineup is more lengthened. There’s no dead bat in the lineup anymore (maybe Martin?) so opposing pitchers have a tougher time working through it.

    I don’t really see Gardner, Granderson, Tex, Arod, or Cano doing anything differently as far as their approach in ABs

  64. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    let’s get a double steal here

  65. igotid88 June 28th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Double steal

  66. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    NICE

  67. igotid88 June 28th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    small ball

  68. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Yankees hit: .255 .336 .426 .762 in MAY
    .272 .358 .449 .807 in June!

    Same kind of patience, but the improved batting average means less outs which means more PAs which means more pitches thrown for the opposition. And I think maybe with Swisher/Posada/Gardner improving, they are having better PAs which leads to more pitches thrown.

  69. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Heads up double steal produces another run.

  70. RS June 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Tex rolled over that pitch so obviously on purpose. It’s weird how sac flies don’t affect your AVG but you still get an 0-fer for a “sac groundout”

  71. kd June 28th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    i’m calling it. arod will hit the most rbi’s in the al this year

  72. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    49 pitches already!

  73. igotid88 June 28th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    would have liked for Alex to go the other way with that strike. But walk is good.

  74. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Christ, is it still just the second inning?

  75. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Clutch hit.

  76. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Excellent

  77. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Nice way to hit with RISP!

  78. kd June 28th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    rollins just stole a base on a pitchout. varitek has a terrible arm

  79. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Swishalicious!!!

  80. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Also excellent

  81. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Swisher is sooo hot

  82. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Poor Greinke in New York :(

  83. NYY fan in NH June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    It’s safe to say, Greinke can’t handle NY.. Nice smack Swish!!!

  84. igotid88 June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    SWiSHAAAA

  85. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Greinke better stick to the NL

  86. Georgia_in_MS June 28th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    I almost feel sorry for Greinke

  87. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Swisher’s up to 10 homers already?

    Sheesh

  88. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    2 innings, 7 runs, 55 pitches….that’s offense, very impressive!

  89. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Greinke AKA Kenny Rogers.

  90. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    56 pitches in 2 innings. the Yankees are doing well tonight with RISP and 2 outs.

    Jerkface-

    Who leads the Yankees with RISP and 2 outs?

  91. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Banuelos through 3 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 5 strikeouts

  92. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    It’s a good thing Greinke doesn’t pitch in NY, he would be torn to shreds by the media & fans..

  93. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    NEVER underestimate the power of the Lohud Reverse Curse!

  94. Salliedogs7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Nice play ARod.

  95. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Praying for the rapture,
    ‘Cause it’s stranger getting stranger
    And everything’s contagious
    It’s the modern middle ages

  96. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    I don’t want to see this place if the Yankees start losing once Jeter returns. It won’t be pretty.

  97. RS June 28th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    lol Cliff Lee’s batting AVG is over 100 points higher than the Red Sox #5 hitter today

  98. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Who leads the Yankees with RISP and 2 outs?

    Nunez: .400 .500 .700 1.200
    tex: .286 .444 .476 .921
    cano: .276 .300 .552 .852
    arod: .273 .407 .500 .907

  99. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    WOODSHED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  100. luis June 28th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    wow, that was quick… 2 innings

  101. kd June 28th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    freddy has been solid to start this game. let’s see if he can go 7

  102. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Whats interesting about this interleague play tangent Michael Kay is on, the Yankees in the 2000s weren’t as good as the Rangers/Red Sox in Interleague. I forget where the cutoff was, but the Red Sox have really gotten fat off interleague play recently, where as the Yankees were merely pretty good.

  103. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    No kidding.

  104. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Props to Russell Martin for using Ghostwriter by Rjd2 as his walkup music.

  105. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    ROFLMAO ! ! ! But remember he can pitch on the big stage in the bright lights.

  106. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    No props to Russell Martin for being an automatic out these days. :(

  107. luis June 28th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Nunez took a walk!! yes

  108. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Gardner keeps piling up those GMRs! 2 more tonight so far.

  109. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    I love Jeter, he’s been a great Yankee, but they really are not missing him…..

  110. stuart a June 28th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    man milwaukee did not exactly help out grienke. the joke triple, the arod bleeder with the stupid alignment, the FC at 3rd.

    martin is a auto out right now, lucky they did not sign him to a 3 year deal after 50 ab’s like our shrewd talent evaluators on this site wanted…

  111. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    “I love Jeter, he’s been a great Yankee, but they really are not missing him…..”

    On the field? No. But emotionally, I’m sure he is missed.

  112. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Kay is a complete idiot. Talking about Citifield and Comerica as being ‘triples ballparks’. It’s not the ball park, it’s where the hitter hits the ball and the circumstances after the hit ( off the wall, past the OF’er, an errant throw) as well as the speed of the runner and his base running abilities. Nitwit, Mo was right on with his comment about his head.

  113. luis June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Doc,

    This days Jeter is not missed, but career Jeter is

  114. SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    SoS June 28th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    Keep the bad vibes going people. I smell a Yankee blowout.

    Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    SoS June 28th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    In a nutshell are you saying the Yankees will be taking Greinke to the woodshed ? ?

    ==========

    Not to too toot my own horn but….

  115. BJK June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Freddy Garcia vs the Red Sox = 11.4 ERA

    Freddy Garcia vs Everyone Else = 2.52 ERA

  116. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    “man milwaukee did not exactly help out grienke. the joke triple, the arod bleeder with the stupid alignment, the FC at 3rd.”

    I have no sympathy for him. He begged to get out of KC. This is what he wanted.

  117. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    martin is a auto out right now, lucky they did not sign him to a 3 year deal after 50 ab’s like our shrewd talent evaluators on this site wanted…

    They have him under control for next year whether Martin likes it or not

  118. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Nunez has 10 steals in 110PA

    not bad at all

  119. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Jeter is a million ties more sure handed than Nunez, but the kid can hit and run….nice to have on the team ..

  120. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    This nonsense about not stealing when you have a big lead is crap. It’s the player’s job to do whatever he can do to score runs. That includes stealing bases. The Yankees don’t have to stop scoring runs just because they have 7 and MIL has none. The game could be 15-0 and I’d still be in favor of stealing bases.

  121. SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    They have him under control for next year whether Martin likes it or not

    =======

    JF,
    Do you still see him starting next year or being a backup helping Montero through his growing pains ala Girardi to Posada?

  122. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    “Jeter is a million ties more sure handed than Nunez, but the kid can hit and run….nice to have on the team ..”

    Nunez could be the starting SS on a lot of other teams. The Yankees are actually ruining his career by holding on to him and having him only be a backup. :P

  123. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Kay is a complete idiot. Talking about Citifield and Comerica as being ‘triples ballparks’. It’s not the ball park

    Ballpark outfield configuration helps with triples a lot. Some ballparks are simply too small to facilitate having a lot of triples. If you have a spacious ballpark with weird angles it will create triples thanks to the direction the ball will move off those walls.

    Its no coincidence that the same parks tend to be in the same area for triples park factor year after year. Citi has been at 1.2+ since it opened. Just like Yankee Stadium inflates home runs and deflates triples.

  124. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Martin’s ice cold right now, but he’ll heat up. He’s shown more power in one month than he did any of last year. He’s healthy, just out of it. His final numbers will be pretty decent. He’s done a great job behind the plate – can’t complain there. For the price we paid? It’s a bit frustrating, but worth it.

    Bearing in mind that Tex usually doesn’t catch fire till after the All-Star Break, the fact that he has 23 homers and a .890 OPS now makes me think he’ll have a monster season when its all said and done.

    And A-Rod has bounced back wonderfully. His power will come too. Cano’s better than he’s been so far.

    With Swisher and Posada hitting again, this lineup is in a pretty good place. Maybe Montero will add something later, but you stick by a guy like Posada. So far he’s rewarded their trust in him.

  125. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    “Do you still see him starting next year or being a backup helping Montero through his growing pains ala Girardi to Posada?”

    If the Yankees don’t have Montero as their starting catcher next season, they should just trade the guy. Enough already! Either he’s the catcher of the future or he isn’t.

  126. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    4 steals in this game already

    I can’t believe my eyes

  127. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Do you still see him starting next year or being a backup helping Montero through his growing pains ala Girardi to Posada?

    I want Montero here now backing up so next year he COULD start. Pretty much no way he can start without some play time now. So next year I’d start out with Martin as the starter and adjust play time accordingly. Romine can step in midyear/ASB if something happens.

  128. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Damned. This team can’t even play tack-on. No wonder they can’t win.

  129. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Montero hasn’t lit up AAA, and has had some maturity issues. I’d argue he isn’t quite ready yet, and the team doesn’t have a huge need anymore.

  130. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
    “Do you still see him starting next year or being a backup helping Montero through his growing pains ala Girardi to Posada?”

    If the Yankees don’t have Montero as their starting catcher next season, they should just trade the guy. Enough already! Either he’s the catcher of the future or he isn’t.
    ____________
    OR they could break in a 22 year old catcher slowly like they did with Po.

  131. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    OR they could break in a 22 year old catcher slowly like they did with Po.

    They went too slow with Posada.

  132. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Poor Zach.

  133. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Montero is really taking a beating behind the plate tonight. At least two fould off the mask, one off of the knee and one off of the shoulder.

  134. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Unless Greineke is hurt I think the Brewers manager took him out because he figures they can score 5-6 runs against Garcia. Garcia has gotten outs but his stuff hasn’t looked that great.

  135. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Garcia has gotten outs but his stuff hasn’t looked that great.

    This sums up Garcia.

  136. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
    OR they could break in a 22 year old catcher slowly like they did with Po.

    They went too slow with Posada.
    _________
    Perhaps…my real point is that it is too early to make the call whether or not he is the catcher of the future. Typical Lohud board impatience.

  137. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    “OR they could break in a 22 year old catcher slowly like they did with Po.”

    I think he needs to come up as a late season guy just to get a taste of the bigs.

  138. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Who said Swisher couldn’t play the outfield? That was textbook.

    Garcia getting drilled this inning.

  139. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Swisher has certainly played a decent right field this year.

  140. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    That was a bad Gamble. Martin continues to play good D

  141. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    “Perhaps…my real point is that it is too early to make the call whether or not he is the catcher of the future. Typical Lohud board impatience.”

    I’m not being impatient. I just going by what I’ve read here and other places. Everyone says he’s the next best thing since sliced bread. If that’s true, I don’t get why he’s not starting. Maybe people have overpraised him.

  142. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Who said Swisher couldn’t play the outfield?

    Swisher has always been about average in RF, his defense is underrated. Its just his goofiness leads to some plays that look bad, and thats all anyone remembers.

  143. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Held them at 2 runs, I’ll take that

  144. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Girardi should have a short leash with Garcia tonight. With his “stuff” it could be 7-5 before you know it.

  145. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
    “OR they could break in a 22 year old catcher slowly like they did with Po.”

    I think he needs to come up as a late season guy just to get a taste of the bigs.
    _________
    Apparently the professionals paid to make that decision using internal evaluations disagree.

  146. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    I’m not being impatient. I just going by what I’ve read here and other places. Everyone says he’s the next best thing since sliced bread. If that’s true, I don’t get why he’s not starting. Maybe people have overpraised him.

    He is young still. I think he should be called up this year if only to start getting him used to the big leagues. Sooner he is up the sooner he adjusts the sooner he becomes a staple of the lineup. The longer that is delayed the longer before he can really be a shot in the arm for the team. You play him now as a backup and maybe that pays off next year when he is called to step in and be a major contributor. With the age and streakiness of the players on this team it just makes sense.

  147. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    LMAO…Cliff Lee opposite field drive to warning track to score runner from 3rd…3-0 Phillies

  148. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Beckett surrenders a sac fly to Cliff Lee. 3-0 Phils.

  149. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    And he has a no hitter after 5

  150. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Laura–

    As long as I can remember, Yankee prospects have always been over-hyped. It’s just good practice to do so, in order to get them as valuable as possible for trades.

  151. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Funny. Swisher missing the cutoff man actually led to an out. I don’t think Gamel tries for second with a less wild throw.

  152. SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    NEVER underestimate the power of the Lohud Reverse Curse!

    ========

    Now 7-2!! Hope I didnt jinx the reverse curse by premature tooting.

  153. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    JF–

    I would agree if his future role was simply DH…however, I really think Cashman and his crew believe that he has a chance to catch, and they want to give him as much time as possible to prepare for the big jump to the majors as a catcher. Letting him play everyday at SWB continues his development.

    He’ll get his cup of coffee in September.

  154. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    The Brewers are really advanced with shifts.

    When Alex goes the other way it’s for power and in the air.

    It’s the same thing with AGon. When he hits groundballs they are almost always pulled, despite being a hitter with oppo skills.

  155. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
    NEVER underestimate the power of the Lohud Reverse Curse!

    ========

    Now 7-2!! Hope I didnt jinx the reverse curse by premature tooting.
    ________
    You may have insulted the Lohud gods.

  156. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Swisher with the very loud F bomb.

  157. SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Before or after July 31 on a Montero callup?

    I say after.

  158. DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    BoJo..like Bye Bye Balboni, and Boom Boom Hensley Muelens?

  159. sunny615 June 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Guess I’m not the only one who heard that F bomb from swish… Lucky those kids in the front row are New Yorkers. ;)

  160. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    If Montero isn’t called up this year it’s going to hurt Romine. Even Newman said that Romine should be in AAA right now but he can’t because Montero is there. Eventually Romine has to be moved up and can’t have Montero blocking him.

  161. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Banuelos, 5 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 7 strikeouts, 1 homer allowed. 4 ground outs, 4 fly outs

  162. SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Poor Zach.

    =========

    Imagine if we traded Montero for him and he came up with a performance like this one. He would never get out of his own locker.

  163. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    DocTodd June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
    BoJo..like Bye Bye Balboni, and Boom Boom Hensley Muelens?
    _______
    We could probably list 20 without even sweating.

  164. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Someone should start warming up. Garcia isn’t fooling anyone the last 2 innings…

  165. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Can’t keep prospects down forever, the pipeline has to produce. Theres pretty much no way to keep Montero in the minors next year where it makes sense for the SYSTEM and if he is going to suddenly learn how to do it in 43 or less games to the end of the year then I think he can learn the same in the majors catching half as much in the MAJORS with 4 big time catchers helping him.

  166. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Are we sure the Yankees aren’t holding Montero so that they can include him in a trade at the deadline?

  167. SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Are we sure the Yankees aren’t holding Montero so that they can include him in a trade at the deadline?

    Word

  168. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Garcia’s margin for error is just so small.

  169. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    85 games left, you could match Montero in 30 of them and he is only catching 13 less than he would in AAA.

  170. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Garcia gets 1 screaming liner back to him every game.

  171. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Someone should start warming up. Garcia isn’t fooling anyone the last 2 innings…

    —–

    Relax dude.

    Just sit back and let The Chief work.

  172. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    OUCH. Mets lead Detroit, 13-0 in the 5th inning

  173. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Garcia’s margin for error is just so small.

    —–

    LOL

  174. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    I really hope they stop trading prospects so easily. The pitchers they’ve given away recently, like Kennedy, Melancon, and Coke, are guys the team could have used. Position player wise, I wish they hadn’t traded Tabata, but there isn’t really a spot for him right now. Jackson for Granderson I think has been a good swap. Hopefully Aroldys Vizcaino doesn’t become a dominant starter.

  175. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Fielder looks like he weighs more than CC.

  176. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    # SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Before or after July 31 on a Montero callup?

    I say after.
    —————————-
    neither…he will be traded

  177. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Honestly I don’t think Cashman would hestitate to trade Montero if he could get a player that he likes. I really think he sees him as a trade chip and nothing more. I obviously don’t think he would trade him for a #4 pitcher but if he could get a good #2 I definitely think Montero is gone. I don’t think the Yanks see a spot for him, especially after Cash said he wouldn’t bring him up to DH.

  178. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    “Are we sure the Yankees aren’t holding Montero so that they can include him in a trade at the deadline?”

    Trading him for who, exactly? They aren’t getting Felix.

  179. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    “OUCH. Mets lead Detroit, 13-0 in the 5th inning”

    I think Porcello started that game. Talk about prospects not panning out.

  180. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Garcia just took Braun to school.

  181. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Well, save the screaming liner, Garcia did a decent job pitching around that.

    More runs!

  182. 4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    # Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    UGH!!! Why can’t Nunez try working for walks?

    If he did and added that dimension to his game it would make him a really great player. Good advice.
    ————————————————-

    JOKE OF THE DAY !!!

    LMAO !!! So, the guy leading the team in errors and hitting around .250 only needs to walk a little and he’s gonna be a great player ? In a hundred AB’s this year he’s oh soooo close to greatness ???

    Your Jeter hatred is showing just a hair !!! All through Yankee land, Jeter is still considered the best all around SS they have in the system. Remember, no one his age has hit .300 since Appling in the 40′s. And he still plays an acceptable, if not better SS, and is one of the smarter players the Yanks have had in a long time.

    I’m all for Nunez and hope he continues to get better. He has the tools, but is quite far off from being even considered a good player at this level. Not even a starter yet.

    Advice for you : Don’t get too excited just yet !!!

  183. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Is this guy really sitting at yankee stadium with cheese on his head??!?!?! You have to be kidding me.

  184. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    # Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    “Are we sure the Yankees aren’t holding Montero so that they can include him in a trade at the deadline?”

    Trading him for who, exactly? They aren’t getting Felix.
    ————————————
    want the SP in Fla and they want a young catcher

  185. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    4 NYY, you’re so bizarre.

  186. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    “want the SP in Fla and they want a young catcher”

    Josh Johnson is hurt. And Anibal is an injury risk. Nolasco has regressed badly.

  187. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I have no idea what will happen with Montero; trade or no trade. But, I think this scenario is plausible:

    1. The Yankees have concluded that Montero won’t be a very good major league catcher and that his bat will be very good — but not good enough to keep him if the right player is available.

    2. They feel his value right now as a trade chip is very high and that bringing him up can only result in it diminishing if he underperforms.

    3. They feel that with Martin, Romine, Sanchez, Murphy and Cervelli that Montero won’t be missed.

  188. 4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    # Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    4 NYY, you’re so bizarre.
    =========================

    The truth really gets to you doesn’t it ?

  189. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Sanchez is also a free agent in a year. Not worth Montero.

  190. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    It would be nice to score some more runs

  191. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    The truth really gets to you doesn’t it ?

    You just spent all game writing up a rant about Derek Jeter to an innocuous comment I made regarding Nunez which has nothing to do with Jeter. EVERY player should add plate discipline to their bag of tools.

    The entire world doesn’t revolve around Jeter, as much as he wishes it would.

  192. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Banuelos out after 5 innings. 1-1 tie. Venditte pitching

  193. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    # Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    “want the SP in Fla and they want a young catcher”

    Josh Johnson is hurt. And Anibal is an injury risk. Nolasco has regressed badly.
    ———————————–
    he threw almost 200 innings last year and on pace for 200 this year

  194. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    You call that a JOKE OF THE DAY?

    Not one blonde was even mentioned….

  195. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Any idea how many pitches Manny threw?

  196. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    4NYY you are entitled to your opinion and in this case I think you are right. It’s a really ludicrous contention that if Nunez walked more, that he would be a “really great player”.

  197. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    # Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Sanchez is also a free agent in a year. Not worth Montero.
    ——————————
    Montero is a prospect nothing else….has never faced pitching in a major league game

  198. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Montero is a prospect nothing else….has never faced pitching in a major league game

    So is any player before they make the majors, and many of them wouldn’t be traded for an NL pitcher under control for 1 year.

  199. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    “he threw almost 200 innings last year and on pace for 200 this year”

    Like Jerkface said, he’s a free agent likely to command a massive salary. I’m not convinced.

  200. kd June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    wcyf,

    i think if the yankees though that montero couldn’t hack it at catcher, they would have him playing 1st in aaa and tell him to just concentrate on the bat. in fact, i would think they would have made that decision in aa. my guess is that they think he’ll be posada-esque and maybe shift him over to 1b when tex’s contract is out.

    cashman said he was better than cervelli, effectively ruining trade value for francisco. they may let him start hitting and then call him up. or call him up if posada goes cold again

  201. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    It’s a really ludicrous contention that if Nunez walked more, that he would be a “really great player”.

    Please find me all the short stops that get on base with a bit of power and a lot of speed that are currently playing baseball tia

  202. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    If it’s Anibal straight up for Montero, I would think long and hard. But the Marlins will want more than that.

  203. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    I don’t think Sanchez is a FA in 12

  204. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Too bad the Dodgers don’t have to have a garage sale

  205. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    # Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    If it’s Anibal straight up for Montero, I would think long and hard. But the Marlins will want more than that.
    —————-
    yes they would

  206. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Maybe if Sanchez was a lefty.

  207. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Can’t trade for Anibal with Montero.

    Use the pitching depth to get him or try selling them on Nunez.

  208. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    I don’t think Sanchez is a FA in 12

    Free Agent after next year. Been in the majors since 2006.

  209. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    That’s the thing. I’d trade Betances and somebody else for Montero. Like for like. But with an aging offense, I want Jesus’ bat around.

  210. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    kd June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    wcyf, i think if the yankees though that montero couldn’t hack it at catcher, they would have him playing 1st in aaa and tell him to just concentrate on the bat. in fact, i would think they would have made that decision in aa. my guess is that they think he’ll be posada-esque and maybe shift him over to 1b when tex’s contract is out.

    cashman said he was better than cervelli, effectively ruining trade value for francisco. they may let him start hitting and then call him up. or call him up if posada goes cold again

    ***********

    Good points. My post was speculative but I do think think plausible. The decision as to his catching ability may not have been made until recently. If they keep him I envision letting him work through things this year in SWB. He is up with the Yankees in 2012 backing up Martin and getting some at bats at DH.

  211. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    # Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    I don’t think Sanchez is a FA in 12

    Free Agent after next year. Been in the majors since 2006.
    ———————————
    OK

  212. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Good throw by Swisher.

  213. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Swisher with the defense tonight!!

  214. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Swisher with everything tonight. Star of the game.

  215. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Another professional QUALITY start by Garcia.

  216. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Swish is really playing very good

  217. 4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    # Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    The truth really gets to you doesn’t it ?

    You just spent all game writing up a rant about Derek Jeter to an innocuous comment I made regarding Nunez which has nothing to do with Jeter. EVERY player should add plate discipline to their bag of tools.

    The entire world doesn’t revolve around Jeter, as much as he wishes it would.
    ======================
    Just how do you know he thinks that way ? ( you couldn’t have possibly just made that up, could you? )

    You’ve been ranting on Jeter the whole time he’s been out. What an idiot to do that !!!

    Try denying that ! Innocent comment ? FUNNY !

    And now that the team avg. is getting better, ( as I said was needed ) they have scored more and improved in just about all facets offensively, not just more ” PA’s.

    Can’t wait till you’re boss of the Yanks, you’ll lead off with Tom Sabermetric !

  218. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    SoS June 28th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    I never wanted him. Head case imo.

  219. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    # Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Maybe if Sanchez was a lefty.
    ——————————–
    would be nice

  220. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Banuelos with 93 pitches in his 5 innings.

  221. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Banuelos with 93 pitches in his 5 innings.

    —–

    Thanks

  222. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I always enjoy a laugh here. Thanks.

  223. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    he could fall apart tonight but how good is Lee

    7.0 IP 81 pitch count 1 hit 0 runs

  224. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Gb,

    Not very economical again

  225. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    TEX MESSAGE!!

  226. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Another June homer by Tex…wait until he gets hot!

  227. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Just how do you know he thinks that way ? ( you couldn’t have possibly just made that up, could you? )

    You’ve been ranting on Jeter the whole time he’s been out. What an idiot to do that !!!

    Try denying that ! Innocent comment ? FUNNY !

    And now that the team avg. is getting better, ( as I said was needed ) they have scored more and improved in just about all facets offensively, not just more ” PA’s.

    Can’t wait till you’re boss of the Yanks, you’ll lead off with Tom Sabermetric !

    This is so crazy and hilarious. I want to respond point by point, but its too much. First of all, that jeter comment is obviously a joke designed to needle you. I have no idea what Jeter is thinking. I hope its about improving his hitting when he is healthy. Second, show me where I have been ‘ranting’ on Jeter since he has been out. Third, yes an innocent comment in response to GB7′s stupid comment. Third, the Yankees have been scoring LESS runs despite hitting 20 points higher than in April when they slugged .480 and hit .250.
    Fourth, who is Tom Sabermetric? If he had a huge on base I’d lead off with him.

  228. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Whatever happens with Montero, at least he’s worth something. I’m far from the world’s biggest Cashman fan, but at least under his reign we have players like Montero, Banuelos and Betances and more in our system who have value. Before Cashman took charge in 2006 I think it was, the Yankees minor league player development was horrendous.

  229. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Bad math on my point by point, thirds in there twice. Oh well, points stand.

  230. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    The stats

    Yankees in June, 5.18 runs per game (not counting today which will help!)
    Yankees in April, 5.58 runs per game

  231. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Everything ? ? Does that include after the game ?

  232. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    They should take that kid out to protect his arm///

  233. -Matt- June 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    24 Home runs

    Wow

  234. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    VY I’m sure Swish will let you know with a tweet.

  235. Yanks78 June 28th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Tex is the king of hitting HRs when we are big by a lot. Not killing him for it because he has been good with RISP generally, but just saying…

  236. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    ‘lead off with Tom Sabermetric’……………

    ============

    Is he in Rookie Ball or Single A ?

  237. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    ‘who is Tom Sabermetric?’

    ============

    IT’S YOU ! ! !

  238. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    IT’S YOU ! ! !

    Player owners aren’t allowed by MLB. So I can’t be the owner / GM and then lead myself off. Sorry.

  239. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I would sign myself to a bazillion dollar a year contract then DFA myself so I dont have to actually play while collecting my huge paychecks.

  240. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Yanks78 June 28th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Tex is the king of hitting HRs when we are big by a lot. Not killing him for it because he has been good with RISP generally, but just saying…

    **************

    You are right and that’s a good example as to why why relying too much on statistics to make judgments makes little sense.

  241. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Lee 8 innings …2 hits ….no runs

  242. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Scarcely believing that Tex is the major league HR leader I had to look up Jose Bautista: .259 .394 .400 .794 in june. From the way he was going it seemed like he’d hit 100. Only 3 HRs all month.

  243. Tom in N.J. June 28th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Teix is the new Alex…

  244. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    You are right and that’s a good example as to why why relying too much on statistics to make judgments makes little sense.


    Or we could look at the stats and realize that relying on memory is stupid. He has 3 Hrs (4 now) with a lead > 4 runs
    Tie game: .347 .500 .773 1.273 10 HRs
    Within 1: .261 .407 .572 .979 3 HRs
    Within 2: .236 .364 .500 .864 1 HR
    Within 3: .239 .355 .536 .891 6 HRs

  245. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Gee who do I want up to bat with the game tied… maybe the guy with the 1.273 OPS! Good players will get hits in garbage time, probably because they helped make it garbage time by being good players

  246. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Swisher really needs to reel in those F bombs.

  247. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Swisher really needs to reel in those F bombs.

    I’m surprised nobody drops any deadwood staples. I wonder if the umps would run players for especially atrocious language,.

  248. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    FTW

  249. Pat M. June 28th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Think Texeria hits 50 this season ????

  250. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    Swisher really needs to reel in those F bombs.
    _________
    Tweet him and let him know your opinion.

  251. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Hip Hip

  252. Tom in N.J. June 28th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Stats have a factual bias.

  253. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Think Texeria hits 50 this season ????

    He is going to be over 25 by the ASB I think, so man it has to be a posibility!

  254. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Pat,

    Last night Bobby Valentine
    bet that he would get 52 or 54

  255. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    I think we can call off the hounds now.

  256. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    jenks hitting 98 on the gun

  257. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Your problem is two fold Jerkface. First of all you never admit when you are wrong. Today is a perfect example, your comment about Nunez was really dumb and instead of just owning up to that, you try to defend the indefensible. Second of all, your obsession with statistics blinds you to having a feel for the game. A friend of mine who is a pilot says the worst pilots he knows are those that depend too much on their instruments and charts and don’t allow their instincts and experience to guide them. Same concept.

  258. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
    jenks hitting 98 on the gun
    _________
    And probably 320 on the scales….

  259. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    # BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
    jenks hitting 98 on the gun
    _________
    And probably 320 on the scales….
    ————————————-
    could be close

  260. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Is your feel for the game what led you to believe that Teixeira hits most of his HRs in garbage time?

  261. Pat M. June 28th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Almost at the 1/2 way point……

  262. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    “Tweet him and let him know your opinion.”

    I actually don’t have a problem with the F word; it’s part of my vocabulary. That being said, that home plate mic is apparently extremely sensitive and I can see people complaining to the team about Swisher’s language. A team that won’t let you have long hair or a beard probably doesn’t want you cursing up a storm either. I’m surprised they haven’t made AJ cover up his tattoos.

  263. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Is your feel for the game what led you to believe that Teixeira hits most of his HRs in garbage time?

    *********

    I never made that statement. Why do you lie?

  264. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    You’ve also yet to find me the SS’s that get on base, have speed and power, in baseball right now. Nunez hits for a high average and doesn’t walk alot, if he did walk more he would be really great. You don’t get that kind of production out of short stop. You understand positional scarcity right? Sorry that you backed a dumb dumb in an attempt to try and ‘get me’ or whatever and now you look bad :(

  265. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Surprising to see garcia out this soon, but, Noesi needs work

  266. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    This could go either way. Garcia only at 76 pitches so why take him out? Then again, you’ve got a 9 run lead, why leave him in?

  267. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I never made that statement. Why do you lie?

    Tex is the king of hitting HRs when we are big by a lot. Not killing him for it because he has been good with RISP generally, but just saying…

    **************

    You are right and that’s a good example as to why why relying too much on statistics to make judgments makes little sense.

    He is ‘right’ that Tex is ‘the king of hitting HRs when we are big by a lot [sic]‘? Your feel for the game at work!

  268. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I’m surprised they haven’t made AJ cover up his tattoos.
    ___________
    Maybe those tattoos that you see covered up some really obscene ones. :-)

  269. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    It could be the 28 minute last half inning.

  270. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    When you take jabs at statistics, you should probably make sure the statistics back your jab. Ironic I know.

  271. ET June 28th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Garcia has been sitting for over 30 minutes.

  272. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    It’s good to get Noesi back out there asap after his poor outing last time. Let him get his confidence back.

  273. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    “Maybe those tattoos that you see covered up some really obscene ones”

    LOL! Probably.

  274. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
    Gb,

    Not very economical again

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Not many deep counts, but, a lot of fouls. Gotta get the right handers out a little easier.

  275. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    FTW

  276. Benny Blanco June 28th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    cliff lee going for third consecutive..CG that guy is a beast!!!

  277. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Lee coming out to pitch the 9th..looking for the CG shutout

  278. Laura - I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    That’s the one bad thing about Old Timer’s Day – it really showcases how out of shape baseball players get once they leave the game.

  279. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Tino looked like he was swinging in slow motion.

  280. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Not your finest moment Jerkface. You sure like commenting on everyone else’s posts, but can’t handle it when you get called out on your inane crap can you?

    If Nunez walked more he would be a really great player? Really now. Really great? Just as dumb as I’ve ever seen. Amazing.

  281. Benny Blanco June 28th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    lee is just throwing darts..

  282. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    # Laura – I Bleed Blue June 28th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    That’s the one bad thing about Old Timer’s Day – it really showcases how out of shape baseball players get once they leave the game.
    ——————————————–
    lot of players aren’t in great shape even while they are playing

  283. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    If Nunez walked more he would be a really great player?

    Yea, the best player EVER. cost controlled high contact, speedy, powerful, high on base short stops don’t grow on trees! Shouldn’t your feel for the game recognize that? Or is it too busy reconciling Garcia’s start?

  284. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Not many deep counts, but, a lot of fouls. Gotta get the right handers out a little easier.
    ——————

    Maybe his change up is being picked very early?

  285. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    The irony is killing me.

  286. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    2 hitter by Lee

  287. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Westy you’re getting manhandled, tag in Vineyard.

  288. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    With Lidge, then Contreras, and now Madson on the DL, the Phillies are lucky to have Halladay, Lee and Hamels give them innings.

  289. Chris W June 28th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Can you guys stop the fighting? Its getting kind of ridiculous.

  290. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Culver is 3-5 with 2 doubles, 2 runs scored and an RBI

  291. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Noesi has to be used more or he should be in AAA starting. He has good stuff and he is being wasted in mop up duty. It would be nice if he can be used in the 6th or 7th inning in a close game otherwise he is being wasted.

  292. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Noesi should probably stop hanging his breaking balls. But he doesn’t get a lot of work. He pitches on a starters schedule without the amount of innings to go along with it.

  293. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    I think Girardi probably wanted Noesi to go 2 innings, maybe 3…but he probably only goes 1 now due to throwing so many pitches.

  294. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    FLT

  295. 4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Your problem is two fold Jerkface. First of all you never admit when you are wrong. Today is a perfect example, your comment about Nunez was really dumb and instead of just owning up to that, you try to defend the indefensible. Second of all, your obsession with statistics blinds you to having a feel for the game. A friend of mine who is a pilot says the worst pilots he knows are those that depend too much on their instruments and charts and don’t allow their instincts and experience to guide them. Same concept.
    =====================================

    He’ll NEVER understand what you said ! But, Amen !!!

    The “Know it all” of baseball just needs time to figure out when he making points that it’s 1,2,3,4.

    Anyway, great game tonight and as a noted announcer likes to say : “See ya!”

  296. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Nice strikeout pitch,

    TB now losing 2-1 Good.

  297. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Michael Kay is from the future apparently

  298. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Do I really need to say it > Naw…………………….

  299. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Aaargh, You spoke too soon MR. Kay.

  300. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
    _____
    you called it!

  301. luis June 28th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Not pretty but Noesi got the job done

  302. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    I like your style, attitude as well. :wink:

  303. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
    Noesi has to be used more or he should be in AAA starting. He has good stuff and he is being wasted in mop up duty. It would be nice if he can be used in the 6th or 7th inning in a close game otherwise he is being wasted.
    ______
    I don’t think he is “being wasted in mop up duty.” Girardi wants to get him work so he is sharp for high leverage situations. He has earned valuable innings with his work so far.

  304. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    33 pitches in the inning, but only 8 balls. Two tough at bats. Need a long inning by NY to give his a bit of rest. Either that, or it’s “Kitty” Carlyle time. Will he face Corey “Moss” Hart?

  305. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    # Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    With Lidge, then Contreras, and now Madson on the DL, the Phillies are lucky to have Halladay, Lee and Hamels give them innings.
    ——————————-
    combine 28-12 with a 2.88 era

  306. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    don’t think he is “being wasted in mop up duty.” Girardi wants to get him work so he is sharp for high leverage situations. He has earned valuable innings with his work so far.

    He has pitched 4 times in 14 days

  307. RadioKev June 28th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
    Noesi has to be used more or he should be in AAA starting. He has good stuff and he is being wasted in mop up duty. It would be nice if he can be used in the 6th or 7th inning in a close game otherwise he is being wasted.
    ——–

    “Mop up” is a ridiculously negative outlook in his role. He’s getting some work right now, but he’s a pretty good insurance with garcia, nova, and burnett. Throwing quality innings is never a waste.

  308. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    joeman-

    Philly starters have when I last checked, 8 CG’s

  309. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    “Mop up” is a ridiculously negative outlook in his role. He’s getting some work right now, but he’s a pretty good insurance with garcia, nova, and burnett. Throwing quality innings is never a waste.

    He barely pitches and they have another long man on the roster. Why have 2 long men? I’d put Noesi above Ayala in role. On the same tier as Cory Wade. And give him regular work.

    Mo
    Robertson
    Wade/Noesi
    Ayala
    Logan
    Carlyle

  310. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    # Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    joeman-

    Philly starters have when I last checked, 8 CG’s
    ————————————————-
    any kind of offense in the playoffs

  311. Captain Clutch June 28th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Hawkins was a great Yankee. It’s nice to see him….

  312. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    can’t believe Hamels is only 27..seems like he’s been around for a long while

  313. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    If being humiliated by your stupidity is to your liking Jerk, party on.

  314. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I definitely see Mitre replacing Carlyle.

  315. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Hawkins was ill treated by Yankee fans.

  316. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Lee just carved up that lefty heavy Sox lineup tonight. Beckett didn’t look real sharp….ball was flat and up a lot.

    Great game by the Yankees….lineup as a whole really has a nice approach at the plate right now and Garcia just did what he does best. Quality start machine…..he’s been like the perfect back end starter this year and has really pitched better than that at times.

    I don’t really like how they are using Noesi either….he’s good enough to have a more prominent role or otherwise why is he even with the big club.

  317. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Here comes some obscure meaningless stat now…………………………………

  318. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Noesi is getting a taste of the major leagues what is the rush.

  319. RadioKev June 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    He barely pitches and they have another long man on the roster. Why have 2 long men? I’d put Noesi above Ayala in role. On the same tier as Cory Wade. And give him regular work.
    ———

    I’d say they want to hold on to him just in case someone hits a rough patch. Gordon, Nova, Garcia and Burnett are pitching fine but it would be shocking for any of them to go short in a game. Having a pitcher that can throw several good innings is valuable too.

  320. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Looks like the Phillies have enough offense to play the Giants again for the NL pennant. Both in top 4 in pitching ERA with Atlanta and San Diego.

  321. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    # blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Lee just carved up that lefty heavy Sox lineup tonight. Beckett didn’t look real sharp….ball was flat and up a lot.

    Great game by the Yankees….lineup as a whole really has a nice approach at the plate right now and Garcia just did what he does best. Quality start machine…..he’s been like the perfect back end starter this year and has really pitched better than that at times.

    I don’t really like how they are using Noesi either….he’s good enough to have a more prominent role or otherwise why is he even with the big club.
    ———————————-
    disadvantage when playing in a NL park and to boot against a LHSP with Ortiz sitting

  322. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Cory Wade makes Noesi unnecessary.

    He should be down in AAA staying stretched out and developing as a starter. He’s a good prospect.

  323. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Lee just carved up that lefty heavy Sox lineup tonight. Beckett didn’t look real sharp….ball was flat and up a lot.\
    _____________
    Sounds like the epi is wearing off.

  324. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    “Noesi is getting a taste of the major leagues what is the rush.”

    because he could be furthering his development pitching every 5th day at SWB if they are just going to pitch him in 11-2 games. Maybe they are planning on using him in higher leverage spots in the future and are just getting him some experience first….I don’t know.

  325. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
    Cory Wade makes Noesi unnecessary.

    He should be down in AAA staying stretched out and developing as a starter. He’s a good prospect.
    __________
    Getting exposure to big league hitters is not a bad way to break in. Could list numerous examples.

  326. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    “Sounds like the epi is wearing off.”

    yea I don’t know….but tonight was some of the least crisp stuff he’s had this year that I’ve seen.

  327. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    I’d say they want to hold on to him just in case someone hits a rough patch. Gordon, Nova, Garcia and Burnett are pitching fine but it would be shocking for any of them to go short in a game. Having a pitcher that can throw several good innings is valuable too.

    You’re right, having a pitcher that can throw several good innings is valuable, if they actually throw them. The circumstances for Noesi to come in are too specific in that scenario. The starter has to be shaky enough to take out and given up few enough runs that the game seems manageable so Noesi comes in. If not a mook like Marquez or Carlyle comes in. I just wanna see him pitch if he is up here. He has a lot of upside and isn’t really being given a fair shake to prove it.

    Noesi would be the first guy from the minors to replace an injured starter and he is basically getting wasted in the pen in not even a prominent role. At least Hughes and Joba were frontline relievers in the pen.

  328. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Did anyone else hear that Hamels is having back problems…Could leave Phils with only 2 aces for play-offs.

  329. blackaccord June 28th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Was not following the game for a while… Went to yahoo game day and it said kotsay batting and hawkins pitching… I was confused for a while as to whether the yanks got kotsay or did they trade for hawkins again… Then I realized it was again a stupid mistake by yahoo game day…

  330. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Braun, Fielder, and Weeks

    Votto, Bruce, and Phillips

    Pujols, Holliday, and Berkman

    Are there any other teams in NL with 3 tougher outs than these players in NL Central.

  331. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
    “Sounds like the epi is wearing off.”

    yea I don’t know….but tonight was some of the least crisp stuff he’s had this year that I’ve seen.
    ______
    He supposedly had “flu” symptoms the last 2 starts…sounds like he is breaking down and they are hiding it.

  332. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Getting exposure to big league hitters is not a bad way to break in. Could list numerous examples.

    —————-

    How is he going to break in when he barely pitches?

    Are the Yankees going to hand him a rotation spot next season after throwing about 40 largely low leverage innings?

    He still needs to develop as a starter and the Yankees do not have a good track record in recent years with breaking pitchers in by using them in the bullpen based on how Hughes and Joba have progressed.

  333. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Noesi is throwing 50+ pitches today, he isn’t getting high leverage innings any time soon he is gonna be on the shelf for 4 days.

  334. 4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Here comes some obscure meaningless stat now………………

    =======================================

    LMAO ! Your style “ain’t exactly hay” my friend !!! Gotta go now. Again, LMAO

  335. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Noesi has had a real workout in these two innings, but, he’s not getting hammered and he’s not wild. 48 pitches and 36 strikes.

  336. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    The Sox need Beckett to be dominant pretty badly….they don’t have the depth to cover for him if he isn’t.

  337. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Is LMAO the West Coast Yankee Fan code for his alternate personalities?

  338. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    # BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Did anyone else hear that Hamels is having back problems…Could leave Phils with only 2 aces for play-offs.
    ————————————–
    last start on the 25th they let him pitch 8 innings….and hasn’t missed a start this year from what I see

  339. Joe from Long Island June 28th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    GB – Kitty Carlyle? Moss Hart? You’re starting to sound like a real New Yorker….

  340. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Yea I don’t really get what they are doing….they bring him in to throw 50 meaningless pitches and now he can’t pitch for a few days. That’s not how they used Aceves if that’s what they are going for….

  341. Vineyard Yankee June 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    4 NYY June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Later gator !

  342. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    # blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    The Sox need Beckett to be dominant pretty badly….they don’t have the depth to cover for him if he isn’t.
    ——————————
    they need to get Buchholtz healthy

  343. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Bojo-

    I think Hamels had back spasms in his June 15th start. Left after the 7th inning
    Pitching Thursday

  344. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Noesi started last season in A+ ball.

    He could have really benefited this season from spending a year in AAA and maybe making some spot starts for the Yanks.

    He also could have built up his trade value which benefits the Yankess as well.

  345. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    # Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Bojo-

    I think Hamels had back spasms in his June 15th start. Left after the 7th inning
    Pitching Thursday
    —————————————–
    I just looked quick you could be right

  346. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Noesi is pitching enough. That’s the role they see him in right now, again, what the club needs takes precedence over any individual player’s development.

  347. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
    Getting exposure to big league hitters is not a bad way to break in. Could list numerous examples.

    —————-

    How is he going to break in when he barely pitches?

    Are the Yankees going to hand him a rotation spot next season after throwing about 40 largely low leverage innings?

    He still needs to develop as a starter and the Yankees do not have a good track record in recent years with breaking pitchers in by using them in the bullpen based on how Hughes and Joba have progressed.
    ______
    Noesi is just another prospect amongst many pitchers that are coming up. He’ll be used to help the team win now, and get exposure to big leagues. If he has to be sent back next year to get more time or if he is traded is really not as important to the team as him helping them win now.

    Again, this is part of the strategy of developing pitching depth….no one player is more important than winning. They are interchangeable parts.

  348. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    All anyone did when complain about Mitre and Gaudin when they were in NY and now people want Mitre back. I’ve seen enough of him.

  349. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Noesi is pitching enough. That’s the role they see him in right now, again, what the club needs takes precedence over any individual player’s development.

    Anyone can pitch 2 innings in an 11-2 game, not anyone can make spot starts effectively or have rotational upside.

  350. RadioKev June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    He also could have built up his trade value which benefits the Yankess as well.
    ———–

    I don’t think his trade value has been negatively effected as more teams are actually seeing him right now and he’s showing he can be effective in the majors.

  351. Sigmund June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Have the Yankees ever won by 9 or more runs yet been out-hit by their opponent?

  352. joeman June 28th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    S Carolina might win CWS two years in a row..tough to do

  353. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Hamels pitched seven-plus innings, allowing just three hits and a walk in the 9-1 victory over the Florida Marlins at the Bank on Tuesday night. After giving up two hits and a run in the first inning, the lefty retired the next 17 he faced in which he allowed just three fair balls to go past the infield.

    However, the strong winds and sub-seasonal temperatures mixed with the long innings in the dugout brought on by the Phillies’ offensive surge ended Hamels’ night prematurely. After walking Wes Helms to start the eighth inning, Hamels left the game with back tightness.

  354. Niblick June 28th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Man, have you ever heard the YES announcers suck up to anyone the way they’re sucking up to Girardi now? You’d think he was Connie Mack, Casey Stengel and Joe McCarthy all rolled up in one.

  355. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    I don’t think his trade value has been negatively effected as more teams are actually seeing him right now and he’s showing he can be effective in the majors.

    ——-

    It hasn’t been negatively affected. I’m talking about building up his value and making him a more valuable asset than he was coming into the season.

  356. ET June 28th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Yanks have no idea how to break in young starters or use young pitchers optimally

    If they want to find another Aceves, find a guy in the farm who throws 4-5 pitches for strikes, with good control, who is polished.

  357. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
    All anyone did when complain about Mitre and Gaudin when they were in NY and now people want Mitre back. I’ve seen enough of him.
    _______
    I’ve always liked him and thought he was undervalued.

  358. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Pena slowly raising his OPS to 450..

  359. BoJo June 28th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Typo–OBP

  360. RadioKev June 28th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    It hasn’t been negatively affected. I’m talking about building up his value and making him a more valuable asset than he was coming into the season.
    ———

    Sure, but I would still say that actually playing in the majors does more for his reputation and credibility than playing in AAA.

  361. LGY June 28th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Noesi could be very valuable to this team as a spot starter.

    The rotation carries high injury risk and I for one don’t really enjoy watching Brian Gordon make starts for this team.

    Any schlub can pitch these low leverage innings.

  362. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Of the 3-Gaudin, Mitre and Moseley, Moseley has done well with the Padres with no run support.

    I guess Swisher is a keeper now!!

  363. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    “what the club needs takes precedence over any individual player’s development.”

    it seems this is true for some players but not others…..otherwise Cervelli wouldn’t be on the team right now.

  364. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Noesi is only 24 years old. There is no rush to do anything with him. Right now, the Yankees like having him in the pen. He gives them multi-inning versatility, he can go anywhere from 1-6 innings and that’s valuable right now.

  365. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Wasn’t Gomez the “key” piece sent to the Twins in Santana deal?

  366. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    There are players on the 40 man who can pitch garbage time, not many (or any) pitchers that can make a spot start. Its just a weird misallocation of resources. If they need a spot starter they’ll have to put someone on the 40. Noesi could have been starting and having lots of innings under his belt.

    Failing that I’d wish he’d get more chances out of the pen than ayala/logan

  367. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Mitre is better than some of the guys they are carrying right now…..I really don’t care if they bring him back or not but he’s really not a terrible long man.

  368. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Wasn’t Gomez the “key” piece sent to the Twins in Santana deal?

    Gomez once robbed A-rod of a grand slam, so I’m sure the twins think they won that deal.

  369. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    If you think that a 5 ERA and 1.4 homers every 9 innings as a yankee has value, I guess he does.

  370. Tank June 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Mitre is better than Pendleton, Carslyle, Sanit, Marquez

  371. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    “what the club needs takes precedence over any individual player’s development.”

    it seems this is true for some players but not others…..otherwise Cervelli wouldn’t be on the team right now.

    ************

    Cervelli backing up Martin seems to have worked out ok.

  372. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Tonight’s win will put the Yanks 15 games over for the first time this year….that’s a pretty good benchmark to get to before the break. 97 win pace.

  373. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Trenton box score

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_treaax_1

  374. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Gomez once robbed A-rod of a grand slam, so I’m sure the twins think they won that deal.
    ———————————–

    As GB said earlier, now with Mauer working out at 1st, the Twins are regretting sending Wilson Ramos to the Nats for Matt Capps!!

  375. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    “Cervelli backing up Martin seems to have worked out ok.”

    eh….nobody has died so I guess that’s a plus…..but he hasn’t player very well.

  376. Red Lobster June 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Again, the team is 15 games over .500 and have won 13 of 17 despite numerous pitching injuries. Quibbling over minor roster details seems like a waste of time.

  377. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Cervelli backing up Martin seems to have worked out ok.

    Sub 600 OPS and no defense. The Yankees might be in first place despite Cervelli, but there is no telling how many more games they would win or lose with a better backup. Keeping bad players simply because they don’t APPEAR to be harming the effort isn’t good baseball.

  378. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Scranton got whacked, 9-2.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_noraaa_1

  379. Nick in SF June 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Freddy Garcia in the rotation seems to have worked out ok.

  380. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Again, the team is 15 games over .500 and have won 13 of 17 despite numerous pitching injuries. Quibbling over minor roster details seems like a waste of time.

    The team is really good. They are going to the playoffs. All there is to be argued about is minor quibbles and trade possibilities.

  381. blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Mitre had a 3.33 Era with a 1.093 WHIP with the Yanks last year in 54 innings…..

  382. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    For Staten Island, Mitchell got knocked around, but, Culver and Gumbs had good games, but the big bat was outfielder Shane brown with a 4-5 and a homer. 11-9 SI.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....8;did=milb

  383. West Coast Yankee Fan June 28th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    blake June 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    “Cervelli backing up Martin seems to have worked out ok.”
    eh….nobody has died so I guess that’s a plus…..but he hasn’t player very well.

    **********

    I think that there are reasons they don’t want to bring Montero up right now as discussed previously. I really don’t think Cervelli hurts us very much at all, not on this team, and I like some of what he has done in the clutch this year. He’s 3-4 with 7 RBI’s with the bases loaded and he’s 5-19 with 11 RBI’s with RISP.

    He’s not David Ross but he’s ok.

  384. Yankee Trader June 28th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Good night all. Good win and hope they saved some offense for tomorrow.

    Jerkface–I’ll feel confident about the Yankees going to the playoffs when the Rays become sellers and/or the fat lady sings!

    The key, like the Dos X’s commercial is for the Yankees to “stay healthy my friends.”

  385. GreenBeret7 June 28th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    he still gives up too many homers for a reliever. Not gonna do cartwheels or pout if he returns, but, don’t see the need. I trust Noesi and Ayala more.

  386. Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    he still gives up too many homers for a reliever. Not gonna do cartwheels or pout if he returns, but, don’t see the need. I trust Noesi and Ayala more.

    He would replace Carlyle

  387. Ghostwriter June 28th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Jerkface June 28th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
    Tex is the king of hitting HRs when we are big by a lot. Not killing him for it because he has been good with RISP generally, but just saying…

    You are right and that’s a good example as to why why relying too much on statistics to make judgments makes little sense.


    Or we could look at the stats and realize that relying on memory is stupid. He has 3 Hrs (4 now) with a lead > 4 runs
    Tie game: .347 .500 .773 1.273 10 HRs
    Within 1: .261 .407 .572 .979 3 HRs
    Within 2: .236 .364 .500 .864 1 HR
    Within 3: .239 .355 .536 .891 6 HRs
    ———————————–

    The irony is that the only way to corroborate the initial statement is with statistics. A totally dopey statement all the way around.

  388. WyoYankee June 28th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Noesi did not look good; 48 pitches in 2 innings. Pitches all over Hell’s half acre. He throws hard but lacks control. Send him back to AAA. He needs to be pitching every 5 days and get some more command. He needs to develop and being in MLB is not helping.


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