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Girardi: “Some guys have seized an opportunity”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 29, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Through all of last season, the Yankees put a total of 11 players on the disabled list.

They have 11 players on the disabled list right now.

“Some of our guys have seized an opportunity, ran with it and played very well,” Joe Girardi said. “It seemed like it was one after another for a while there. We kept having injuries, and we were talking about a new guy, but these guys have played hard. They haven’t said, ‘Golly, we lost another guy.’ They just went out and played the game. Guys have stepped up for us big, and that’s why we’re winning games.”

Without their starting shortstop. Without their top two setup relievers. Without their top two left-handed relievers. Without their 18-game winner from last season, and without his rotation replacement, the Yankees have won 13 of 17 and pulled a game and a half ahead of the Red Sox in the American League East.

They’ve played well, and as Girardi might say, that’s the bottom line. Nick Swisher, Brett Gardner and Jorge Posada are hitting again, the rotation has been good enough that the thin bullpen hasn’t been an issue and Eduardo Nunez has been productive in place of Derek Jeter.

“We all try to step up when somebody is needed,” Swisher said. “We take pride in that. Whoever goes down, there’s going to be somebody that’s going to be able to step up and be ready for that spot. Prime example is Nuney’s done such a tremendous job with the absence of Jeet. Obviously you can’t replace a guy like that, but I think the way that Nuney’s playing, he’s really fit in.”

Bartolo Colon could be back by the weekend, and Phil Hughes doesn’t seem too far behind. Jeter is taking batting practice, and so is Eric Chavez. Rafael Soriano is apparently able to throw a ball without his elbow bothering him.

Right now the Yankees are playing as if they don’t need them, but getting some players back would certainly boost the roster, fill some holes and increase the margin of error. The Yankees are playing very well right now, but in terms of personnel, they’re a long way from being at their best.

“I don’t think our guys ever felt sorry for ourselves,” Girardi said. “I think that was the important part of it.”

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142 Responses to “Girardi: “Some guys have seized an opportunity””

  1. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    When those guys return it will like a jet turning on the afterburners.

    Whooosh !

    Feel the extra power ?

    :)

  2. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    edit: will be

  3. Prete Funk Era June 29th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    I’m a little surprised Colon will come back this weekend.

  4. austinmac June 29th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    I read the Wally Matthews article, and overall it was very complimentary of the Yankees. It noted they haven’t shown the ability to beat the Red Sox. I can’t argue with that so far. That certainly can change as it did 2 years ago. However, until it does wouldn’t they have to be favored in a post-season series.

    The Red Sox are overly left handed and the Yankees are short-handed on left handed pitching. That is why I think they need a good left handed starter and another lefty in the pen. I don’t say they can’t beat them otherwise, but I do say those additions would significantly increase the odds.

  5. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    I really think this team is on the verge of clicking on all cylinders. Once that happens.. well.. I hope that moment somehow coincides with them playing the Sox lol.

  6. Rich in NJ June 29th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    I realize that it’s blasphemy to some, but this is a more versatile offense with Gardner leading off. He has truly seized an opportunity.

  7. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    MTU June 29th, 2011 at 8:58 am
    GB-

    Just curious.

    Of the three who do you has the most potential ?

    To put it another way, if you had to tarde 2 of the 3 which one would you keep and why ?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    MTU, I like Phelps the most, but, Warren is a lot like a young Mussina and probably has the most potential of the three, but, Mitchell and Phelps are no dogs. besides, Phelps is from st. Louis and a Notre Dame grad. With the St. Louis connection, Chad could use it to get some good inside clubhouse dirt

  8. yankeefeminista June 29th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    MTU, I am sure there will be a ton of coverage of Hughes. However, I will post my impressions as soon as I get back. Hopefully, I will be surrounded by radar guns. I also plan to see Betances pitch on Friday and Banuelos pitch on Sunday. It would be nice if Jeter had a rehab start at one of those games as well. :)

  9. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    For those interested, Hughes’ game starts at 12:05 PM today and on a free feed on http://www.MiLB.com radio

  10. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    MTU-

    I’m not proposing this, but Colon has the best fastball on the team and would make an excellent set-up man. However currently he’s our #2 and is pitching like an ace.

    Hughes was the 2nd best set-up reliever in 2009, 2nd to Matt Thornton who I’d love to have in pinstripes. Again I’m not proposing Hughes go to the bullpen, but he’s going to have to corral his pitches, show sustained velocity and be able to pitch quality games of at a minimum 6 innings.

    Garcia has an out/strike out pitch in the split finger and offers the opposing teams a different look when sandwiched between CC and Colon. I’d keep him in the rotation until, and if he tires.

    AJ does a good job of beating up his catchers, but will not go to the bullpen with his 16.5M salary nor should he.

    That leaves Nova, the Yankees best ground ball pitcher who while deserving to stay in the rotation, might be a good option not only in long relief, but to come in with runners on, needing the DP.

    Now there’s my lengthy take on your question, and I’m sticking to it!!!

  11. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    It will be a tough decision for Cashman and Girardi to make. Not one that I would want to make. However, it’s a nice problem to have….unlike Matthews’ favorite team to the north.

  12. Rich in NJ June 29th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    I’d really be curious to see what AJ could do if he could let it loose for one inning. Maybe he would be agreeable if it was only for the remainder of the season.

  13. pat June 29th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Alex Rodriguez on @sportscenter at 11:40am et. We talk health, hot streaks, homer droughts and perhaps CDiaz @Yankees
    about 2 hours ago via Twitterrific

  14. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    YT-

    The Yankees will evaluate things with Hughes from start to start.

    He has to be competitve and offer the team a chance to win.

    That said, he gets a certain amount of rope because of his track record.

    I’m hopeful he will deliver as a starter. If he cannot he might be able to dial it up a notch out the pen.

    I think either Freddy or Nova could pitch out of the pen.

    It’s gonna be interesting to see how it pans out.

    Thanks for the response. I would love to have thornton.

    YF-

    Thanks in advance. Your observations will be most welcome.

    GB-

    I just wanted your take. I agree on Warren as the best of the 3.

  15. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    BTW-I attached in the last post,the split stats of a reliever-Mike Adams of the Padres, who’s having a terrific year,making 2.535M this year. Would the Padres trade him if the Yankees were willing to accept Ryan Ludwick and the remainder of his 6.775M contract?

  16. Joe from Long Island June 29th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    MTU – I agree with your take on the SP situation.

    While there is a cogent argument to be made about Phil to the pen, I really don’t think that’s the direction the Yanks will go in. There’s a lot that’s been invested in Phil being a starter, and putting him in the pen detracts from that. Also, he’s got more potentially achieved by starting, as opposed to being even a very good bullpen arm. Just look at salaries for starters vs. relievers. The payoff for the Yanks is greater for him to be a starter for several years.

    While Freddy has done better than expected (by some), he’s got no where the longterm potential of Phil Hughes.

    That’s why I think they’ll go with Phil, along with Nova, in the rotation, and put Freddy in the pen as the long man. While Freddy has pitched well, it’s not like he’s a stud out there, who’s been blowing people away, like Colon has.

    They’ll go with the younger guys, who have more upside for the years ahead.

  17. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    I’d really be curious to see what AJ could do if he could let it loose for one inning. Maybe he would be agreeable if it was only for the remainder of the season.
    —————————————————

    Rich-
    Letting it loose for AJ might mean a few wild pitches or a hit batter!! Hmm, could be an excellent retaliatory weapon, LOL

  18. yankeefeminista June 29th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    It should be perfect well for a game. 80 degrees (even hotter on the field) and dry. Hughes’s fastball should be popping.

  19. yankeefeminista June 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    AJ would make a great one inning reliever. However, doubt it will ever happen.

  20. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    YF-

    I expect it sooner or later. He is still building arm strength.

    Today might be the day, if not, soon.

    :)

  21. Rich in NJ June 29th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Garcia’s ERA+ is 124. It’s pretty hard to put him in the pen in light of that kind of effective starting pitching.

  22. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Joe-

    These are the kinds of problems teams just love to have.

    It will be interesting to see the final result.

    Thank you for your response.

  23. hardwired7 June 29th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Love watching Nunez on the bases. He’s constantly aggressive. Just the type of player you hate seeing on the other team.

  24. upstate kate June 29th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Grandy too

  25. Rich in NJ June 29th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    YT

    Just put a pair of goggles on him and his wildness could become an effective weapon. ;)

  26. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    pat June 29th, 2011 at 9:20 am
    Alex Rodriguez on @sportscenter at 11:40am et. We talk health, hot streaks, homer droughts and perhaps CDiaz @Yankees
    about 2 hours ago via Twitterrific

    **********************

    pat, are you going to watch? Want to give me a recap?? :)

  27. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Cashman:

    “Younger and more athletic”.

    GGBG, Nunez, and Grandy would seem to fit the bill.

    ;)

  28. yankeefeminista June 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:33 am
    YF-

    I expect it sooner or later. He is still building arm strength.

    Today might be the day, if not, soon.
    _______
    Hughes may go as high as 85 pitches. It would b nice to see him clock in the area of 92-93 in that last inning, but it sounds like he will have at least one if not two more rehab starts with the goal of reaching 100 pitches before he is brought up.

  29. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Mark Newman told me it’s all about winning, not developing players.

    How can the Yankees possibly justify pulling Garcia from the rotation when he has been far superior to Nova, if that is the case?

  30. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    YF-

    I believe it’s gonna be there it’s just a question of when.

    :)

  31. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Perhaps before deciding to dump Burnett into the bullpen because you don’t like him, perhaps you should look at his season numbers. Two bad games and three that could have gone either way. 4 games of 2 runs or less and 1 win, 2 losses and 1 no decision among games of 6 innings or more. That’s not including 1 games lost on unearned runs with 2 earned runs scored.

  32. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    These are the kinds of problems teams just love to have.
    ————————————–

    MTU-

    One problem the Yankees I’m sure are not looking forward to is where to bat Jeter when he returns, especially against righties? How do you remove the speed and now bunting prowess plus OBP as well as the ability to work the pitchers count from the top of the lineup?? Gardner!!!

  33. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Garcia has been their 3rd best pitcher this season.

    Much better than both Nova and AJ.

    It would be a pretty bizarre move to pull him from the rotation.

  34. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    YT-

    Like it or not Jeter is the exception to most rules.

    He stays until he completely flops which I hope he does not.

    I’d like to think he still has game.

    Time to walk the pupperazzi. Be back.

  35. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Rich-

    AJ could be another intimidator like Ryan Duren!!! “Excuse me Mr opposing batter. While I’m warming up you might not want to stand too close to home plate!”

  36. yankeefeminista June 29th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    GB, I haven’t been reading because I am trying to get out of here but I would also keep AJ in rotation. I was speaking hypothetically.

    Anyway, heading to Trenton, go Huuuuuughes!

  37. ac1 June 29th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    One problem the Yankees I’m sure are not looking forward to is where to bat Jeter when he returns, especially against righties? How do you remove the speed and now bunting prowess plus OBP as well as the ability to work the pitchers count from the top of the lineup?? Gardner!!!

    ___

    It isnt a problem. Girardi already said Jeter is their leadoff hitter whether we like it or not.

  38. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    If AJ was getting the run support we keep giving CC, he’d have a much better wins/loss record.

  39. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    LGY-

    It will be interesting to see how it gets resolved.

    Maybe Freddy stays. who knows ?

  40. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Two bad games and three that could have gone either way. 4 games of 2 runs or less and 1 win, 2 losses and 1 no decision among games of 6 innings or more. That’s not including 1 games lost on unearned runs with 2 earned runs scored

    —–

    And all those runs add up to a subpar 98 ERA+

  41. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 9:49 am

    In all likelihood, someone else in the rotation will get injured and we won’t have to deal with a surplus of arms. Not trying to be pessimistic but these things happen.

  42. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    All of those runs came in two games. Boston and Tampa.

  43. pat June 29th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Erin

    If a client or child doesn’t interupt, I’ll put it on and give you a recap.

  44. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    I just think Garcia gives opposing batters a different look that can keep them off stride, especially when facing him in a 3 game series right after they’ve faced either CC or Colon. Plus he has a strike out pitch in the splitter.

  45. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    All of those runs came in two games. Boston and Tampa.

    —–

    I disagree.

  46. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Thanks pat!! :)

  47. FanSince1948 June 29th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    @Yankeefem.

    FWIW, I’ll be there also – I live (when not in FL) only 1/2 hour away from Waterfront Park.

  48. Chip June 29th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Show of hands – how many people read Harper’s article this morning in the Daily News and thought – Oh yeah this needs to happen!

    Be honest now….

  49. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Finally the truth….Great pov on the Jesus situation

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar.....-catch-22/

  50. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Mesa will be activated for today’s trenton game. somebody is getting moved to open the spot.

  51. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    I stopped reading at “only furthers my opinion that the Yankees really don’t have any idea what they’re doing at the moment with Montero, and likely don’t have a solid plan for the near future with regards to what to do with him.”

    I have a hard time believe that’s the case.

  52. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Yesterday’s link to the interview with Newman has additional questions, answers and information that will be posted when it’s complete.

  53. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am
    Finally the truth….Great pov on the Jesus situation

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/ar…..-catch-22/
    __________
    I disagree. .Total BS from a hack.

  54. ac1 June 29th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    BoJo you may disagree with the main point, but there are many things in that article that could be true. Sure, they took it to the extreme, but there is an underlying point that he has proven himself at each step, or we wouldnt be talking about him so much now.

  55. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Bojo – What I got from the piece was “I don’t know the plan, I don’t like the plan, so they must not have a plan.”

  56. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    ac – I think every point he makes in that article has already been made here, and is largely valid. But the ultimate point of the article is that the Yankees have no plan and have no idea what they’re doing with Montero’s development. I find that very hard to believe at this point, though crazier things have happened.. anyone see that story about that guy getting arrested for assault for farting on a police officer?

  57. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    The Newman article/interview was pretty straight forward. Like most of the other “I know everything there is to know” sites, this guy doesn’t like what he said.

  58. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    In any other organization Montero would have been called up based on what he’s accomplished in his minor league career so far.

    The fact is our starting C has hit .150 with like 5 xbh’s for over the last 2 months.

    Anybody in Montero’s situation would be frustrated to no end with his current plight. It’s only human nature….

    In fairness Posada’s recent hot streak has thrown a monkey wrench in things because it would be hard to get Jesus DH abs. But he’s certainly earned the right to begin his major league career now as the backup C/ RH DH on this team.

  59. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am
    ac – I think every point he makes in that article has already been made here, and is largely valid. But the ultimate point of the article is that the Yankees have no plan and have no idea what they’re doing with Montero’s development. I find that very hard to believe at this point, though crazier things have happened.. anyone see that story about that guy getting arrested for assault for farting on a police officer?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I wonder if he’ll be tried for crimes against humanity for using poisonous gas against humans.

  60. G. Love June 29th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    I don’t know, I get attached to the guys who are doing well in their roles helping us win at the moment. I always root for the laundry more than the players. The only exception to that in my Yankee fandom has been Nettles, Mattingly, Bernie, O’Neil and Mo who I could never say a bad word about because of the connection I felt to them as a fan.

    This whole rotation thing will probably sort itself out and someone will get hurt (sadly) and it will be okay.

    But I have major beef taking Nova or Garcia out of this rotation. They have helped this team regain 1st place, they are dependable and they seem (at least to me) to be getting more dependable and better as this season goes on.

    I get that Hughes is 24 and was once the crown jewel of the organization. I just don’t think you can justify removing Nova or Garcia from their roles if Hughes does not show in his rehab starts that he can pitch with velocity for the whole start and can go deep into games.

    I guess I have a short memory, but I’m too accustomed to seeing Hughes at close to 100 pitches before hitting the 4th inning and that will not cut it here. This team is coming together in a big way right now and I think the best is yet to come.

    I don’t know if Hughes is better served in our pen or being sent to the minors to go learn how to throw something other than a fastball/cutter.

    I just know I appreciate what the 5 guys who have been the backbone of this rotation have done this season and I hate to see the synergy broken up because of this feeling that Hughes has to take one of their starts.

    Can you imagine telling Nova or Garcia they are losing their spot in the rotation? I can’t.

  61. G. Love June 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    As for Prince Fielder, I’d take him as DH if he wanted it. I don’t care what the Yankee payroll goes up to. We have to pay $45 to park at a game before walking in the door. At those prices, they better spend to give us the best show possible. It’s not like the Yankees are going to lower prices in the coming years. We might as well get the best for the money we spend on this team.

    That said, I do think the DH role should be to work in Montero and give Arod a place to segue to.

    And one other thing – Prince has a bad body for baseball. I hadn’t seen him play in person before, but last night I was almost shocked at how strange he looks in uniform. His Dad, who was knows as a chubby big guy in his day, looks about 1/2 the size of Prince. I would definitely worry about that if I were the team investing in him.

  62. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Can you imagine telling Nova or Garcia they are losing their spot in the rotation? I can’t.

    ——————

    Nova really hasn’t pitched that well this season and has never been the prospect that Hughes is, so I don’t see the problem here.

    Nova was the one competing for a rotation spot in ST, not Hughes.

  63. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    YankeesPR Who wants to meet the Manager today? Joe Girardi will be shaking hands today in the Great Hall at 5pm when gates open

  64. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    GB – I’ll definitely be keeping up with the outcome of that case. Maybe they’ll sentence him to death via gas chamber.

  65. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    The Marc Newman interview didn’t say anything specific to the plans for Montero….all he said is that Montero is much improved defensively and that his concentration on his glovework has come at the expense of his O and that he needs to find a balance.

    The fact is he was told that he wasn’t making the team because he needed to work on his defense. He improved his glovework and his handling of the pitchers as evidenced by the success of the staff so far this season while hitting .350….our DH @ the time was hitting .150 and our Catcher was slumping and unable to play due to injury yet no callup.

    All the “criticism” then was that he’s not displaying power. This after slugging .700 and ops’ing 1.200+ for the secondhalf of last season as a 20yr old in AAA. basically he was Pujols.

    I mean really what more does he have to do? He’s never going to be Bench back there but he’s going to crush balls and help this team win games and rings….

    FREE JESUS!!!!!

  66. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Am I the only one getting redirected to ads every time I reload a post?

    I want to worry about our starting rotation and if Nova or Hughes will end up in the pen but every time I try I only end up wondering what a year of sporadic work is going to do to Noesi..

  67. G. Love June 29th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    LGY,

    I get it that Nova’s numbers aren’t eye popping. But with all the hue and cry in here about watching a young pitcher develop and take his lumps along the way I feel that Nova is doing that right before our eyes and allowing the team to keep winning. I don’t see his starts as a black holes the team can’t recover from. I think he’s getting better as the season rolls on. I don’t see the logic in stopping his progress in it’s tracks if cultivating young cheap starting pitching is one of the goals of the organization.

    With Hughes’ injury history is it the correct thing to stop a healthy young starter from devleoping?

    I don’t have the answer. I just don’t know how you tell Nova/Garcia/Colon to go sit in the pen and wait to mop up for Hughes.

  68. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    GLove

    Prince is a far better athlete and twice as athletic as his dad was. He’s a big boy but he can actually run pretty well.

    The fact is he’s a great BASEBALL PLAYER! this kid was hitting 440ft. bombs @ 11/12yrs old.

    Big Papi had a bad body for baseball as well how’s he done that last 8-9yrs?

  69. ac1 June 29th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Prince is a far better athlete and twice as athletic as his dad was. He’s a big boy but he can actually run pretty well.

    ___

    No more 8-10 year contracts for 200 M….

    Cano is already going to be looking for something in the 8/144 range.

  70. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    I just don’t know how you tell Nova/Garcia/Colon to go sit in the pen and wait to mop up for Hughes.

    ———————

    G. Love,

    Nova has already gone less than 5 innings in four of his starts this season. He is only averaging 5 2/3 innings per start.

    Hughes went less than 5 innings only 1 time all last season and that was with a much stricter pitch count + innings regimen and the challenge of facing tougher offenses.

  71. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Girardi is on the meet and greet duty at YS. Now’s your chance for some of you to tell him that he’s an idiot without a clue. I’m sure he’ll appreciate your “honesty and guts”.

  72. blake June 29th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Hughes is a better prospect and pitcher than Nova when he’s right.

    If the Yankees were going to hand out a big contract this winter then it would make more sense to give it to Jose Reyes than to Prince Fielder.

  73. 108 stitches June 29th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    One of the strong points with how this team is and should be playing is in advancing runners and giving pitchers a cushion to work with.
    Stranding runners has become less.

  74. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    G. Love-

    Is it possible that maybe you are a tad too pessimistic about Hughes and what he might be able to offer relative to the others ?

    I say this respectfully.

    :)

  75. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    A solution maybe the Padres trading the Yanks Mike Adams straight up for Nova. If Philcomes back and he’s Phil from the 1st half of last season Cash might pull the trigger on that.

    The Pads liked Nova’s potential a couple of years ago when they took him in the rule 5 and he’s shown that in the NL particularly the NL west and San Diego’s home ballpark his ceiling is more very good to excellent # 3 starter than 4/5 type that he is with us.

    The Pads are going to position Mike Adams as a potential closer type as he would become their closer if they were to trade Bell so that increases his value somewhat.

    We’d be trading from a position of strength again as in that case we’d still have Noesi in the ‘pen just in case with Warren/Phelps and DJ in Scranton waiting in the wings unless 1 of those guys get spun off for a LH reliever.

    Lets say the White Sox fall out of it and want to deal how would DJ Mitchell and Laird for Matt Thornton sound?

    Add Mike Adams and Matt Thornton to the ‘pen @ a cost of Nova, Laird and DJ Mitchell while keeping Noesi, Warren and Phelps.

    Starters- CC, Colon, Hughes, AJ and Freddy

    6th starter- Noesi

    ‘pen- Mo, DRob, Mike Adams, Soriano, Thornton and Logan

  76. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 10:49 am
    Girardi is on the meet and greet duty at YS. Now?s your chance for some of you to tell him that he?s an idiot without a clue. I?m sure he?ll appreciate your ?honesty and guts?.

    ******************

    :lol:

  77. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Sorry for delay in replying about article.

    I think the Yankees do have a plan for Montero and the article was just trash. Their plan is to let a 21 year old develop his defense and overall game by playing full time so he is as prepared as possible before coming up for a part-time role. I think it is the correct approach.

    Catching is the toughest position to master, as it includes many facets–game calling, blocking pitches, communication with pitchers, etc. The best way to improve is practice.

    Also, as Newman pointed out, he needs to get comfortable enough at defense so that his overall game is well-balanced. In other words, he needs to be good enough so he can concentrate on hitting as well. That comes with experience.

  78. blake June 29th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Nova has pitched 128 big league innings now. He’s been pretty consistently around a 4.50 Era, close to 1.5 WHIP and about a half a K an inning guy over that time. He’s doing a fine job for his first full season and is giving the Yanks what they need but he’s been about league average. I like him.and he figures to get better……but if Hughes looks like himself when he comes back then he’s fur better pitcher and prospect.

  79. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    The Padres want to trade Bell to open up the closer slot for Adams. They aren’t trading him.

    If anything, it might be interesting to offer Nova to White Sox for Thornton.

  80. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I say Montero will be up sometime after the ASB and Cervelli will go bye bye.

    It just makes too much sense not to happen at some point.

    (Unless Jesus is offered in a trade for a stud pitcher.)

  81. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    One other thing about the article I found particularly dumb. It says it is not worth it to wait for his defensive improvement.

    Perhaps in the steroid era of 3 run homers, this would have been okay. But with more teams turning to baserunning and small ball, the catcher’s defense has become more important.

    It seems obvious to me that Cashman wants a good defensive catcher, and wants Montero to be as good as he possibly can be–and is thus giving him time to develop.

  82. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Bojo-

    The Sox would have to be nuts NOT to do that deal.

    A promising MLB pitcher for a reliever.

    Gotta make that move if your Kenny.

    Not sure we should though.

    ;)

  83. Crawdaddy June 29th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    There is no way I would offer a young major league starting pitcher like Nova for Thornton who is a free agent in 3-4 months.

  84. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:03 am
    ________
    I agree–it would be an interesting discussion, but not sure I would do it. Might do Noesi for Thornton though…after starting with Nova (bait and switch)

  85. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Crawdaddy June 29th, 2011 at 11:04 am
    There is no way I would offer a young major league starting pitcher like Nova for Thornton who is a free agent in 3-4 months.
    _________
    Good point…even more reason to bait and switch

  86. Tom in N.J. June 29th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Are the White Sox the biggest disappointment in baseball this year?

  87. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Bojo-

    I wouldn’t even do that.

    Maybe one of the lower rated guys.

    As Crawdaddy pointed out he is a FA at the end of the season.

    We can always try to grab him then if we still have the need.

  88. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Tom-

    Yeah. The Red Sox. They were supposed to run away with it.

    :)

  89. tyanksfan36 June 29th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I like Nova, I think he is doing just fine.

  90. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    But as I have said for some time now, I am fine with doing no trades. My hope would be to acquire Beltran (for depth like Berkman last year), and maybe a LOOGY…and a #2 ace if one was available, but if none of that happens, I’m okay with this roster. No one team is perfect…and you win as a team.

  91. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    You’re going to trade a promising 24 year old starter for a soon to be 35 year old reliever on a down year who’s walking more batters than in any year since his 2nd year? Yeah, you’re my idea of an astute GM.

  92. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:14 am
    You’re going to trade a promising 24 year old starter for a soon to be 35 year old reliever on a down year who’s walking more batters than in any year since his 2nd year? Yeah, you’re my idea of an astute GM.
    ___
    Valid point today. Not really focused here. Hadn’t thought it through.

  93. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    I’d rather have Jose than Prince as well….I’d take both if I could get Prince on a 6yr deal…

    he could DH and backup 1B with Reyes taking over SS and Jeet either moving to RF or LF. I’d be more inclined to play him in Rf and leave LF and Cf as is.

    2012 lineup

    Gardy LF
    Reyes SS
    Cano 2B
    ARod 3B
    Tex 1B
    Prince DH
    Grandy CF
    Jesus C
    Jeter RF

    that lineup would kill…from 3-8 all the hitters are 30-50HR 100+ rbis guys….Gardy and Reyes would wreck havoc at the top of the lineup and score 130+runs and steal 50-60 bases each…Robbie would see so many meatball fastballs that he might hit .350+ every year

    Jorge and Swisher’s contracts would cover the 22-24mil that prince is going to get and with the $ that we have tied up in Marte/ Feliciano/ Garcia/ Russ Martin amd Andrew Jones that would about cover Reyes 17mil salary for next year.

    Re-up CC and maybe bring Colon back and give the #5 spot to a cheap in house guy like Noesi or Warren and the payroll should stay somewhere in the ballpark of 210-220 mil.

    That team would win 110= games and lap the rest of baseball for the next 3-4 years….The Dynasty II would be in full effect.

    Hell I’d even bring up Romine to backup catch and maybe play a lil corner OF just because I could.

    Nuney stays on the bench as the utility inf and backup 3B/SS and 2B

  94. G. Love June 29th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    MTU,

    I am pessimistic about Hughes. I have issues with him. Approaching this season he came into camp a bit out of shape. Then when the velocity wasn’t there he swore up and down that his arm felt fine.

    Only after bombing out in the opening weeks and after several tests/procedures did Hughes finally admit his arm didn’t feel right from the get go.

    The starts that he lost early on could have gone to Colon and Phil could have gotten treatment earlier if he was more honest about how his arm was feeling.

    This goes back to 2008 when he was getting shellacked in the rotation and kept saying he felt fine. Then he finally admits his ribs hurt after taking the mound a bunch of times and getting his head handed to him.

    He’s not my favorite Yankee at the moment. I don’t hate him. I get why he doesn’t want to come off the field. That said, there’s a difference between a warrior who is nursing a bad hammy/knee and trying to play through it and a guy who is legitimately injured enough to need a very long DL stint and long rehab process. In both of the cases where Hughes wasn’t forthcoming with how he was feeling he required long DL stints and rehab times.

    Some people look upon that as valor. I see it differently and hope he has learned his lesson this time around about being honest with how his body is feeling when he’s not going right.

    That said, I have my doubts about him as a starting pitcher. His arsenal is limited and I think he could be a great reliever. He can only be a great starter, in my opinion, if he learns how to throw some kind of effective breaking/off speed stuff which he hasn’t shown he is capable of doing for quite some time.

    The last thing I want to see is him put back in the rotation to take his lumps again. It’s why I think his rehab starts are going to get progressively more and more important. If he can’t dominate minor leaguers towards the end of his rehab stint, I don’t know how you mess with success and take Nova or Garcia out of their roles.

    I like Nova a lot. I don’t think he’ll be an ace, but I think the Yankees sometimes spend an awful lot of money to come up with the kind of pitcher he can be here for many years.

    I just want to see Hughes dominate and show something in addition to the fastball. He has trouble getting past strike 2 because he didn’t have the repetoire to put away hitters and it drives his pitch counts up early.

    For me, the jury is still out on him.

  95. blake June 29th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    “Are the White Sox the biggest disappointment in baseball this year?”

    Probably…..you could say the Twins as well but injuries have played a role there.

  96. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Here’s my ideal scenario:

    The White Sox fall out of before the TD and decide to become sellers.

    Danks and Thornton both are made available.

    We offer Romine, 2 pitchers from a list that includes Nova, Noesi, Phelps, Warren, or Mitchell, and one solid position player prospect like a Corban Joseph type.

    Basically a 4 for 2 deal.

  97. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Any decent left handed reliever out there won’t be cheap. There’s no reason to help another team while hurting yourself. All it does is allow other GMs to show up and try to sucker punch you in a trade. It’s bad enough to have to put up with the likes of Jack Zduriencik in Seattle and Bill Smith in Minnesota without encouraging more.

  98. David in Cal June 29th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Gardner’s been hitting and running so well that it will be a big loss to bump him back to 9th in the batting order. OTOH Jeter has been mediocre at the plate for 1 1/2 seasons now. He should bat 8th or 9th against rightie starters.

    Burnett has been a mediocre starter for the Yanks for 2 1/2 seasons now. His 5.67 postseason ERA with the Yanks is worse than mediocre .

    Both Jeter and Burnett are at an age where they can be expected to decline.

    Unfortunately, both of these guys are protected by their high salaries. Not only is the team wasting salary money on them, their high-paid status gives them preference over other players. Gahhh!

    I’m disgusted. I want to watch the best players, not the most expensive players.

  99. blake June 29th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Champ,

    I’ve mentioned several times that I don’t think the Yanks should write Reyes off this winter. Good SS’s in their primes are probably the hardest thing to find in baseball…..he’s going to be there for the taking and for just money in a few months.

    A lot would to be worked out……they would have to have a discussion win Jeter about moving to RF….they would have to find a taker for Swisher etc….Reyes coukd take over at SS, Jeter plays RF for a year and then you pursue Kemp or Upton to take over for him there in 2013……..its complicated and I don’t know exactly how it would work……but if I coukd get Reyes prime years and solve SS long term…..then I think you have to at least look in to it…..

  100. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Thornton has been the best LH reliever in baseball the last 3yrs. He had a terrible start to his season but the last 2 months has righted the ship and been more like himself.

    He’s a LHP with elite stuff that muffles elite LH hitters.

    He maybe the difference between matching up with the Red Sox in the ALCS and winning a world series or going home early swept in the ALCS. I mean who would you rather see coming in to face AGone and Big Papi in protecting a late lead in game 6 of the ALCS? Thornton or Logan?

    As Newman said the 1st priority of the organization is winning the 2011 Championship.

    If the cost to do that is a 24yr starter with some promise who best case scenario is off my team in ayear when my 22 and 23 yr old potential ace pitchers in Bettances and Banny are ready then oh well I wish him well. Hopefully he’s as successful as IPK is because it just increases the profile of the 9 guys I’ve got down on the farm who we believe internally are better than he is.

    Ivan Nova is a tradeable asset for this organization if he brings back a piece that is vital to improving our chances of winning the ring this year. period.

    As far as the Padres go both Bell and Adams will be in play and if they like the offers both guys will go. Trust me.

  101. pat June 29th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Erin

    Just put on ESPN and they are promo-ing the spot saying find out what A-Rod has to say about the Captain being on the DL.

    Would it be wrong for him to say it’s been the best 2 weeks of his Yankee career? :wink:

  102. Doc Iac June 29th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    what is this ‘Aj to bullpen when hughes gets back’ BS?

    as GB said look at aj stats, hes pitched waaaaaaay better than hughes,

    whens the last time hughes pitched a decent game?

    hughes needs to earn a spot, a spot the yankees dont even have to give at the moment, he may have to go to the pen

  103. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    pat- LOL Yeah, I can’t imagine that would go over very well. ;)

  104. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Addison Maruszac to Scranton and Melky Mesa activated today for Trenton.

    Gene Michael is in Trenton today to watch the game.

    Staten Island has moved right handed pitcher Mark Montgomery, 20 years old, to Charleston.

    Montgomery’s numbers.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=605384

  105. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    G. Love-

    Yours is an interesting perspective even though I don’t share it.

    And of course the jury is still out on him but the only way to find out is to let him show what he’s got. There’s no denying that he won 18 games last season and was dominant the entire 1st half.

    I think he came apart a bit in the 2nd half due to fatigue. Maybe that shouldn’t have happened but it did IMO.

    Lastly, I will say this. ST games or rehab starts are only gauges for what Hughes might be able to do in MLB situations. As long as he is healthy and showing his usual great command and velocity and progressing from start to start he gets the nod IMO.

    As far as his secondary stuff goes IMO he has been experimenting a little too much.

    He is capable of throwing a terrific curveball. He just has to get the feel for it again.

    He should reduce the use of the cutter and continue to throw his CU to keep hitters off balance.

    You Knock his FB but when he has velocity and command it’s elite IMO. He doesn’t need too much else to be successful with a pitch like that.

    That’s my take. I respect yours and appreciate the contrast.

    I do hope you’ll understand that I hope I’m right and you’re wrong.

    Peace brother.

    :)

  106. blake June 29th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    AJ hasn’t been.that bad this year. I’ve been happy with how he’s pitched…..

  107. Against All Odds June 29th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    # Doc Iac June 29th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    what is this ‘Aj to bullpen when hughes gets back’ BS?

    as GB said look at aj stats, hes pitched waaaaaaay better than hughes,

    whens the last time hughes pitched a decent game?

    hughes needs to earn a spot, a spot the yankees dont even have to give at the moment, he may have to go to the pen

    ————————————–

    will his stuff translate to the pen even with what has happened with him this yr?

  108. pat June 29th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    ebenezersamuel Bad news, folks. There’s no speed sign here in Trenton. So we’ll only know Hughes is back to his old self by watching swings n misses

    ebenezersamuel Zack Greinke would love it here. Half-hour before 1st pitch and Waterfront Park is still nearly empty.

  109. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Josh Norris is going to try to livestream Hughes’ post game press conference today.

  110. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Blake

    I don’t think it’s that complicated. The issue would be Jeter accepting the move which he’d have no choice but to do. He’s being well compensated and his entire image is that of the consummate team first, whatever we need to do to win player.

    He can’t all of a sudden become a 24-1 guy. He was already hurt by the public criticism during last years negotiations and would not enjoy the public lashing he would take if he were blocking the yanks making an obvious upgrade to the team because of selfishness.

    It’s not like he doesn’t know that Reyes is a better player/SS than him right now. He should go right into Hal’s office with Ca$h and strongly recommend that Reyes be a Yankee asap!

    Swisher would be a very tradeable asset with his option picked up and Jeter has the skillset to move to RF and be at least league average there with the glove if not better

  111. Doc Iac June 29th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    AAO

    idk…but how do u give him any spot considerin he hasnt pitched well since may of last yr?

  112. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Pat-

    YF is at the game and sitting behind home plate.

    She has mentioned that there is a strong possibility that she will get a peak at scout’s radar guns.

    We’ll find out about Hughes velocity one way or another.

    Me. I am also interested in how well he commands his FB. Just as important as the velo.

    ;)

  113. BIG AL June 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    I was wondering, have the RS picked out their 2011 WS rings yet? :)

  114. BIG AL June 29th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    MTU -

    I want Montero in SWB until after I visit, so don’t rush him up to NY quite yet.

  115. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    YF needs to cozy up to gene Michael and take copious amounts of notes.

  116. Against All Odds June 29th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    # Doc Iac June 29th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    AAO

    idk…but how do u give him any spot considerin he hasnt pitched well since may of last yr?

    ———————————-

    You bring up a good point he hasn’t earned his spot back and the Yankees just can’t give it to him. We all understand that he’s important for the present and future but they can’t assume once he comes back it’s business as usual.

  117. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Al-

    Comprendo.

    Gotcha.

    :)

  118. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    will have to wait for YF on speeds, because there are no gun readings on the park scoreboard.

  119. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    GB-

    She’d make an excellent scout.

    ;)

  120. BIG AL June 29th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Just to get into a prior discussion, I’d love to have Prince Fielder as DH/1B next year. Think of all the runs he’d drive in, and in YS he’s hit 50 HR’s a year.

    Then add Kemp or other top OF, and we’re all set.

  121. blake June 29th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Champ,

    I agree…..you are basically swapping Swisher for Reyes in the lineup.

  122. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Al-

    Just curious. All things being equal.

    If you could have either who would you take Kemp or JU ?

  123. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    AndrewMarchand Bombers Beat features an Eduardo Nunez interview, Wally Matthews & Jorge Posada on The Boss. http://t.co/jDP4T3I

  124. Doc Iac June 29th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    jeter in RF?

    u guys do kno tht defense is part of the game right?

  125. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Imagine how baseball history would be changed if the Braves gave up on a 26 year old Warren Spahn, or the Dodgers gave up on a 26 year old Sandy Koufax or the Yanks gave up on a 26 year old Ron Guidry and his 0-1 career record. By all means, give up on Phil Hughes. In no way am I saying that Hughes will be them, but, he’s off to a better start at that age.

  126. BIG AL June 29th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    MTU -

    Have you looked at JU’s numbers this season? This kid is coming into his own, and I agree with you’re wanting him. I think I’d prefer him over Kemp long term.

  127. pat June 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Erin

    Same old. Feels good at the plate, working hard with K Long, HRs come in bunches so not worried about how many he hits as long as team is winning. Had same injury as Derek last year and it takes awhile to heal- be patient, stay hydrated advice to him. Gave Gardner and Nunez love for filling in, Swish love for hot streak and said D-Rob deserves a trip to AZ for ASG because he’s been amazing.

    Asked what advise he would give Lebron and he said the same stuff, fans need to be patient, Lebron amazingly talented and will win championships. Said Pat Riley knows how to win and Miami has the leadership to get it done.

  128. blake June 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I think Jeter would be a good RFer.

  129. 108 stitches June 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    BIG ALJune 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    I was wondering, have the RS picked out their 2011 WS rings yet?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    They’ve won such a vast amount of rings that they’re weighing the thought of having an S on the top of the ring signifying “SUX” rather than a B.

  130. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Al-

    It’s a tough choice but I think that’s the way I go too.

    Not that I would feel bad if we got Kemp as a FA.

    :)

  131. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Stoneburner will make another start today for Tampa Yanks of the GCL

  132. blake June 29th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Only deal with Upton is you’d have to trade for him…..whereas Kemp can be had for just money after next year. That said, Upton contract is pretty team friendly. They need to make it a priority to have one of those two in RF at the start of the 2013 season IMO.

  133. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    pat-thanks so much for the recap!! So they didn’t get him to talk about Cameron? ;)

  134. BIG AL June 29th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Just wondering, with Cano’s range and arm strength, does anyone think he could be converted to SS? Jeter at this point in his career may be better suited as a 2B starting next season than an OF.

  135. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Sounds like Newman, Michael, R. Jackson and Cashman will all be in Trenton today.

    Hughes scheduled for 85 pitches

  136. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    New Post: Yankees still leading in final all-star update

    :arrow:

  137. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Blake-

    We are of one mind on that.

    I’ll take Colby Rasmus, Stanton, or Heyward too.

    Hey. I’m not greedy.

    :)

  138. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    GB-

    The braintrust in attendance. Wow. Phil better have it.

    :)

  139. champ809 June 29th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Phil Hughes year was marred last year by not being able to beat the BJays…

    Take out his starts against the BJays last year and his era is about a 3.00

    I think he had 3 starts against them after the ASB where he got absolutely hammered.

    As far as Jeter in RF he has enough speed to play the position and his skillset lends him to making that transition. He’s got enough arm to play RF and he’s always been excellent at going back on balls from SS. You’re only asking him to be playable out there for 2 yrs not win Gold Gloves.

  140. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    MTU June 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am
    Blake-

    We are of one mind on that.

    I’ll take Colby Rasmus, Stanton, or Heyward too.

    Hey. I’m not greedy.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    LMAO. Things that could be said about you two sharing a mind. I’ll be nice and just let it go, though.

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