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Hughes goes 6.1 innings in rehab start

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jun 29, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Phil Hughes is finished for the day. He went 6.1 innings for Double-A Trenton, allowing one run on three hits and two walks. He struck out eight.

For some updates from the scene, check our good friend Erik Boland’s twitter feed. Erik was in Trenton and reports that Hughes threw 88 pitches, 64 or strikes. He talked to one scout who said Hughes’ command was “much better.” Apparently Hughes was at 92 mph with his fastball, topping out at 94.

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204 Responses to “Hughes goes 6.1 innings in rehab start”

  1. Jerkface June 29th, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    For what its worth Verducci doesn’t think they will go with a balanced schedule or get rid of divisions.

  2. m June 29th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    The last outing was an aberration. :)

    Sounds like he had good command and the strikeouts are great. I realize they are AA hitters, but he was doing what was expected-which is to dominate guys at this level.

    Here’s the link to Alex’s spot on sports center from this morning:

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?.....id=2521705

  3. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Boston is not going to sign Fielder or Reyes, let alone both of them.

  4. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Huuuuuughes :)

  5. m June 29th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    The more I think about it, the more I doubt Fielder ends up in Boston. They could simply pay Papi on a shorter deal for much less AAV. However, they’ve FU their SS ever since letting you know who go. And now, finally, a real SS entering his prime is on the market. Don’t see how they pass that up.

  6. blake June 29th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Bret,

    I added wrong earlier but still…..if they are already comitted to 127 for next season signing both Fielder and Reyes would put them.close to the luxury tax mark without doing anything else. If they just signed one of them then it would still be tough to stay under that threshold and address everything else they’d need. For example if the signed Reyes for 20 million and brought back Ortiz to DH then their payroll would be around 160…..and they’d still be in need of a RFer and pitching help. They could sign one of them…..but they aren’t doing it and staying under the luxury tax threshold from what I can see. I think they’ll bring back Ortiz on a short term contract and try Iglesias at SS

  7. m June 29th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    I mean, didn’t Boston have Nick Green playing shortstop at one point? Nick Green.

  8. Howard June 29th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    I think Boston goes with Rollins – not Reyes.

  9. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Sounds great. Exactly what you would hope for.

    Next stop SWB.

    :)

  10. m June 29th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    If the Sox finish behind the Yankees this year, they’ll be forced to make big moves. I simply think their system is not equipped to fill their needs at a level necessary to compete year in and year out with the Yankees. They tried going with your Penny’s and Smoltzs. Even delved into your V-Marts and Beltres. But plugging the holes with stop gap players is not going to help them long-term against the Yankees. And we’re not even talking about pitching yet, which I think the Yankees have better quality and quantity.

  11. West Coast Yankee Fan June 29th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    LGY – want to share your lottery picks since you claim to know what is going to happen in the future?

  12. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Fielder should have suitors in the NL where he can play 1st. Cubs, Cardinals if Pujols goes elsewhere, Nats. If he does sign with the Red Sox that means Ortiz is gone, so it’s a wash. Lot’s of people thought Adam Dunn would challenge Bautista for the homerun title. We’ve seen how being mostly a DH has gone for him.

    I’d be very surprised that Fielder would get a big contract to be a DH. Guerrero managed $8 million after a very good season, while wanting 2 years.

  13. Nick in SF June 29th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    “Its whats being discussed right now in MLB, how is it unrealistic or dubious?”

    Multiple proposals get discussed, some more realistic than others. I think going to some full MLB balanced schedule is the least realistic of the rumored proposals.

    As for the logic, X% fewer games with AL rules doesn’t automatically mean an equal X% drop in the value of the players who regularly DH.

    Anyway, it’s not like there’s always a specific market for DHs like there is for catchers or pitchers. There are some players who can basically only DH and are signed as such, but then there are situations like with the Yankees where a player is parked at DH at the end of his contract.

  14. BoJo June 29th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Hall did a nice job closing the game out….Although he allowed a run, and some base runners, I liked what I saw as a reliever…

  15. BTX June 29th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    PeteAbe
    It’s official. Today’s #RedSox lineup has Ortiz at 1B and Gonzalez in RF

  16. m June 29th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I hope Ortiz costs them in the field. :)

  17. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Shaeffer hall makes it exciting with a solo homer and a single, but ends it. A ground ball to the last player you want the ball hit to in a one run game in the 9th inning, Pirela.

    3-2 Trenton

    Final Box

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_treaax_1

  18. blake June 29th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Can’t blame Francona……with Lackey pitching they’ll need all the offense they can get.

  19. Howard June 29th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    It?s official. Today?s #RedSox lineup has Ortiz at 1B and Gonzalez in RF

    That’s so stupid. And, precisely why they’re not going to sign a guy like Fielder. Ortiz will not be in Boston nexy year, and they’re going to have a more complete player in that position – like most of baseball, the DH is a revolving door or players at this point, so on NL games you’re not so limited to losing the guy in the middle of your lineup.

  20. MTU June 29th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Later gang.

    Really happy with the way things turned out for Hughes.

  21. West Coast Yankee Fan June 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised is Papi wound up in pinstripes.

  22. Against All Odds June 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Can Gonzo play RF?

  23. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    I don’t like the way hughes pitched to day. 87 pitches and they weren’t all curves and change-ups. He should have thrown 87 of each. He didn’t prove anything. I just don’t like how he looked on the radio.

  24. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    blake,

    So they are valuing winning one interleague game in which they are under dogs to begin with over putting your new 100 + million dollar free agent at a position he hasn’t played in years?

  25. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    BTX June 29th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    PeteAbe
    It?s official. Today?s #RedSox lineup has Ortiz at 1B and Gonzalez in RF

    ******************

    muy interesante

  26. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    I don?t like the way hughes pitched to day. 87 pitches and they weren?t all curves and change-ups. He should have thrown 87 of each. He didn?t prove anything. I just don?t like how he looked on the radio.

    **********************

    :lol:

  27. blake June 29th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Triple,

    Eh….Im sure they don’t want to get swept. I dont see putting Gonzalez in RF as some huge risk…..tell him to be careful and not be a hero.

  28. West Coast Yankee Fan June 29th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    I don’t like the way hughes pitched to day. 87 pitches and they weren’t all curves and change-ups. He should have thrown 87 of each. He didn’t prove anything. I just don’t like how he looked on the radio.

    – Love Betsy

  29. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    He didn’t prove anything. I just don’t like how he looked on the radio.
    —————————————————
    LMAO. BTW he wooked marveeelus on TB

  30. SoS June 29th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    I wonder if they told Gonzalez to Abreu all balls hit deep.

  31. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Broxton is being shut down for at least the next 3 weeks because of elbow pain.

  32. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Yankees During a workout Wednesday in Tampa, Derek Jeter hit 2 balls over the outfield fence in a span of 4 pitches … http://atmlb.com/lvJkN8

  33. SoS June 29th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    GB,
    Did you not watch it on your computer screen? Someone posted the link to the game. You probably would have not like how he sounded on TV. The balls had no pop almost like Romine put some TP in his glove to soften the blow and embarrass Phil. Pretty selfish if you ask me. Im sure we will hear his name in trade rumors soon.

  34. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    blake,

    So you would have no problem putting Tex in right field for a couple of games if it meant putting the Posada of 3 or 4 years ago at first?

    Teams get swept all the time. In fact these games mean less since they are interleague games

  35. SoS June 29th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Broxton is being shut down for at least the next 3 weeks because of elbow pain.

    *********

    I wonder if Torre had his hands on this?

  36. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Here’s the video of Hughes’ post game press conference

    http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/

  37. G-C June 29th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    These guys are professional baseball players.

    The fact that they aren’t capable of playing every single position on the field other than pitcher and catcher is stupid to begin with.

    I hate to sound like an over the top purist (because I certainly am not) but any good high school baseball player is capable of playing every position on the field other than pitcher and catcher. As is any good little league player.

    Adrian Gonzalez isn’t going to die because he has to play right field for seven innings.

  38. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Where’s Blake and MTU?

    Mike Adams of the Padres is having a great season, but he’s been great 4 years and counting. When the Padres trade Heath Bell to their major league bretheren, maybe the Yankees can take on the remaining 2.535M of Adams salary. Agree to take Ludwick whose a FA and making 6.775M to lower the prospect asking price.

    Thoughts??

  39. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    SoS, wasn’t aware that the game was being broadcast. Didn’t see it listed.

    More good news….Tampa Devil Rays lose 4-3.

  40. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    eboland11 Hughes: “I felt like I was throwing more strikes today. Until the end I was commanding the baseball pretty well…It was a good step.”

    eboland11 Hughes said if it was up to him, his next start would be in the Majors: “from what I’ve heard, one more” start in minors is likely, he said

  41. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    eboland11 Does he feel his stuff his of the caliber to get Major Leaguers out? “I feel like it is.”

  42. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    G-C,

    Its not the point whether one can or not play the position. Why take the risk? The Yankees would never ever put Tex in the OF for 1 meaningless inter league game

  43. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Is Ortiz at first any better/worse than Jorgie? Those who live in glass houses….

  44. blake June 29th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Triple,

    Yea I wouldn’t mind…..I like winning all the games possible and I don’t think playing a 28 year old in the outfield for a game is that big a deal.

    Trader,

    Not bad…..though Hoyer would ask for Montero ;)

  45. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    “The Yankees would never ever put Tex in the OF for 1 meaningless inter league game”

    This, however, is very true lol..

  46. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Banuelos, Betances, Joseph and Romine make the Eastern League All Star team

  47. blake June 29th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    “The Yankees would never ever put Tex in the OF for 1 meaningless inter league game”

    So…..that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t in a similar situation.

  48. RadioKev June 29th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    That Red Sox move is pretty desperate.

    Liking the news from Hughes. I think things will turn around from him and he’ll pick things up from where he left last year. Next year may be the real big growth year, we’ll have to see.

    The innings hangover is absolutely not a surprise.

  49. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Its like the way Boston mostly rearranges their rotation when they fact us so their top 3 guys face us and very few of their elite hitters get days off. Every game is the world series to them.

  50. SoS June 29th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....lb-wp11089

    Boston should sign this guy for todays game to play rightfield.

  51. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Don’t want to jump the gun……but adding a rested and 100% Hughes for the 2nd half COULD be awesome……

    Sabathia
    Good Hughes/Colon
    Liriano
    Good Hughes/Colon

    I would feel good about that heading into October if all healthy.

  52. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    article in the Boston Herald today…..think the Sox are happy?

    Thankful-Lee, he went to Philly

    PHILADELPHIA — Last night, the Red Sox [team stats] didn’t love Cliff Lee’s offseason decision, but for the rest of the 2011 season, they’ll be looking for someone to high-five.

    It’s frightening just how tenuous the balance of power was in the AL East this winter. The Red Sox made historic improvements by adding the 1-2 punch of Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford, but it all might have meant nothing if Lee had just taken the money and run.

    The Yankees basically made Lee their only free agent target. They offered the Rangers left-hander what amounted to $148 million. They would surely get their man. Again.

    Except Lee had other ideas.

    His wife didn’t appreciate dodging the taunts and beers of fans in Yankee Stadium during last fall’s AL Championship Series. She and he had, however, loved his time with the Phillies in 2009.

  53. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    “Its like the way Boston mostly rearranges their rotation when they fact us so their top 3 guys face us and very few of their elite hitters get days off. ”

    If they hadn’t done that the Yankees may have a 5 or 6 game lead right now.

  54. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    LGY June 29th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Boston is not going to sign Fielder or Reyes, let alone both of them
    ——————————
    agree ….

  55. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Its the Red Sox and their dumb egos. Why are they only playing Ortiz in Philly? Why not any other NL park that they have visited? Why is a game against Philly worth anymore then another team?

  56. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    GB-

    tom in georgia posted the link for me, after i posted a radio feed from New Hampshire. I only saw Hughes from the 5th inning on. Yes the hit to start the 7th was catchable. good curveballs looking like a splitter and terrific high fastballs for swinging strike 3.

    However once he got the runner on he was pitching from the stretch, which he hadn’t done much earlier, and his rhythm/mechanics/comfort looked off.

    I vote send him to SWB , let him pitch his next game to Montero, while he’s mowing down hitters, after 2 are down, bases empty, intentially walk the next batter to practice his delivery from the stretch!!

    When he gets called up bring Montero up with him in his car.

  57. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    “When he gets called up bring Montero up with him in his car.”

    Yes! :)

  58. Warning Track Power June 29th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    GO HUGHES!
    Nice to read another positive report about how Hughes pitches.
    1 additional start won’t hurt him. That will help him get into better shape and afford him the chance to work on his pitches.
    Very possible Hughes will make his 1st start July 9 or 10??

  59. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    don’t think the Yanks shut the door on Reyes….I would like to see a Reyes and CJ Wilson signing this off season if they don’t trade Montero for a SP

  60. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Im sure they don’t want Ortiz sitting all this time either and getting out of the rhythm he was in…..he needs to get some ABs to stay sharp.

  61. G-C June 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    “The Red Sox made historic improvements by adding the 1-2 punch of Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford”

    _________________________________________________________________

    I love this.

    Somehow people conveniently love to ignore that the Red Sox LOST their two best players from last season.

    They really didn’t make any “additions.” Their team is roughly the same in composition as it was last year.

  62. randy l. June 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    as far as any player playing outfield, i’m not sure alex could play outfield without being embarrassed. he has enough trouble with infield pop ups let alone mlb fly balls.

  63. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Its the Red Sox and their dumb egos. Why are they only playing Ortiz in Philly? Why not any other NL park that they have visited? Why is a game against Philly worth anymore then another team?

    ——————————-
    Ortiz will platy tonight..AGone is in the OF

  64. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    I only would want Wilson for 3 years or less……if he’ll do that then sign me up. I bet he stays in Texas.

  65. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    and make sure there’s room in the car for Golson, too.

  66. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    **intentionally**

  67. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    joeman,

    That is ridiculous. She is comparing loving the fans of a team her husband was on as opposed to fans of a team her husband was playing against.

    I’m sure Mensa will be calling up Mrs. Lee anyday now. Stay Classy

  68. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    The difference between what Gonzalez and Crawford have done this year and Vmart and Beltre isn’t that significant…..Crawford has been the worst player of those 4.

  69. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    I’m reading through the thread.. what prospects are the Red Sox trading to fill all these holes that are about to open up? I keep seeing people say they can make trades or fill from within.. I’m confused as to what trades they could make without opening more holes.

    Does anyone have a good gauge of their farm system? Who do they have down there that might interest other teams?

  70. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    GB,

    Yes also!

  71. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    -C June 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    “The Red Sox made historic improvements by adding the 1-2 punch of Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford”

    _________________________________________________________________

    I love this.

    Somehow people conveniently love to ignore that the Red Sox LOST their two best players from last season.

    They really didn’t make any “additions.” Their team is roughly the same in composition as it was last year.
    ————————————————–
    and who were those players

  72. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Thanks, Trader. I could only go by what the announcers and R. Jackson was saying, minus all of Jackson’s “when I played” commentary. Wasn’t sure about Jackson’s opinions on outfield defense.

  73. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    joeman,

    I know he is playing tonight that is why I asked why are they only playing him in Philly and not any other park? Do the games count more in the standings? They are still underdogs whether he plays or not

  74. FanSince1948 June 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    No radar gun, but it seemed to me that the ball was coming out of Phil’s hand effortlessly, and his command was quite good until the top of the seventh, when he may have begun to tire.

    BTW, the dinger that Lyerly hit was really mashed – over the tall wall not far to the right of dead center – probably 380 – 395 there.

  75. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Shame,

    Not much in the upper levels. They can put Iglesias at SS and maybe Kalish in RF…..but how good would they be?

  76. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    so if a trade was offered to you VMart & Beltre for Crawford and AGone you are turning this trade down ?

  77. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    joeman,

    I know he is playing tonight that is why I asked why are they only playing him in Philly and not any other park? Do the games count more in the standings? They are still underdogs whether he plays or not
    ————————-
    Lee had a lot to do with him sitting last night also

  78. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    joeman,

    He was making a point that the production level has largely been the same. Crawford has been a zero this year so you are really comparing Martinez and Beltre’s offense to Agons this year

  79. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Josh Beckett pitching well has been a much bigger development for Boston than Gonzalez or Crawford coming aboard……they better hope the duct tape holding his back together is good for the season.

  80. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    joeman,

    That didn’t answer the question. Why are they only playing Ortiz against Philly and no other NL team?

  81. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    blake – Thats kind of the impression I got, that they’ve already traded away their best assets.

    I think what the Sox end up doing with Ortiz could end up being the most interesting move of the off-season because it will likely show whether they’ve learned from recent mistakes. At one time, the Sox were known to cut and run on their players (regardless of popularity) if they felt they were heading towards a decline and about to get overpaid. The past few years, some of their deals have really gotten them out of their usually methods of operation. The Lackey and Crawford deals are obviously the best examples. Should be interesting to see if they cut ties with Ortiz like most people seem to think they will or if they end up holding onto him because of either pressure from the fanbase or an uneasiness about finding a replacement.

  82. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    “so if a trade was offered to you VMart & Beltre for Crawford and AGone you are turning this trade down ?”

    Nope….Id make that swap but as I said the difference isn’t as much as it seems and Bexkett has been a bigger factor for them than that trade off was. Plus Youkalis isn’t very good at 3rd anymore and only figures to get worse in the coming years.

  83. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    joeman,

    That is ridiculous. She is comparing loving the fans of a team her husband was on as opposed to fans of a team her husband was playing against.

    I’m sure Mensa will be calling up Mrs. Lee anyday now. Stay Classy
    ———————————————————————-
    Boston beat writers

  84. Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    “so if a trade was offered to you VMart & Beltre for Crawford and AGone you are turning this trade down ?”

    Not really a fair question.. the contracts on those deals are a big part of their value.

  85. blake June 29th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    I think Ortiz winds back up in Boston on a deal somewhere between what each side wants……Im actually pulling for that.

  86. JK June 29th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    The Redsox don’t have 54M coming off the payroll. Beckett, Lester, Youkillis & Pedroia have back loaded contracts, which reduces that number

  87. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    joeman,

    That didn’t answer the question. Why are they only playing Ortiz against Philly and no other NL team?
    ————————————
    no place to put him…they really don’t want AGone in the OF

  88. Erin June 29th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    DanBarbarisi Constrained all season by baseball’s “unwritten rules,” Nick Swisher is finally back — on the field and off it. http://t.co/LylVsh8

  89. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I think they resign Ortiz for 2 years for 20

  90. hardwired7 June 29th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    The thought of the Yanks being on the hook for over $23M per to Cliff Lee when he’s creeping up on 40 is enough to make one shudder.

    His harpy wife and apparent disdain for all things NYC wouldn’t play well when he’s pitching like a soft-tossing lefty and being paid like an ace.

  91. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    joeman,

    Which goes back to my point. Why against Philly and nobody else?

    Ego. Thats why

  92. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    If Youkilis can’t play 3rd anymore they’ll just move him to 1st and put Gonzalez in RF. Right?

  93. LGY June 29th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    The Sox will re-sign Ortiz and maybe look into a guy like Beltran or Cuddyer for RF to try to balance their offense vs LHP.

  94. joeman June 29th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    # Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I think they resign Ortiz for 2 years for 20
    —————————————————————-
    could the Yankees be a little interested in him ?

  95. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    hardwired7,

    When did she say anything negative about the city itself?

  96. Doc Iac June 29th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    good outing by hughes but lets wait til he gets major leaguers out before callin him the next cy young

  97. Triple Short of a Cycle June 29th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    joeman,

    I hope not. I don’t want that POS anywhere near pinstripes

  98. GreenBeret7 June 29th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Shame Spencer June 29th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    I’m reading through the thread.. what prospects are the Red Sox trading to fill all these holes that are about to open up? I keep seeing people say they can make trades or fill from within.. I’m confused as to what trades they could make without opening more holes.

    Does anyone have a good gauge of their farm system? Who do they have down there that might interest other teams?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Jackson, Grant, Hamilton, Franklin, Cleveland, Mckinley…and a lot of them.

  99. Howard June 29th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    The Redsox don?t have 54M coming off the payroll. Beckett, Lester, Youkillis & Pedroia have back loaded contracts, which reduces that number

    Which is accounted for in that number, per Cotts. This was covered in the last thread. They do actually have that figure coming off, but they’re probably going to spend 30 of it in replacements, if not more.

  100. hardwired7 June 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    “When did she say anything negative about the city itself?”

    Probably never, but that fit in really well w/my sour grapes rant.

    ;-)

  101. m June 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Historic? Adding Halladay and Lee is historic. I wish the New York writers loved the Yankees as much as the Boston writers love their Sox, but I’d be embarrassed if I saw that statement. Unless they meant historic contracts?

  102. Yankee Trader June 29th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    could the Yankees be a little interested in him ? [Ortiz]
    ————————————-

    joeman- Not now, as that spot can be used for many of the regulars. Sure wish they had signed him for 2003 when he was a FA and not gotten Giambi in 2002, keeping Tino another year. The Yankees would have swept the Sox in 2004 as well as the Cardinals to win the WS

  103. Nick in SF June 29th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    “Why are they only playing Ortiz against Philly and no other NL team?”

    Desperation is probably the reason.

  104. 108 stitches June 29th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Ortiz is one of those fine line situations where a decision has to made whether to get rid of him a year too soon or a year too late.
    With the DH market being what it is, Ortiz should consider himself lucky if the Sux offer him a 1-year deal with a team option for a 2nd year.
    Right now the 2 sides aren’t talking anything future but he could start bellyaching soon after the All Star break.

  105. Howard June 29th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

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