Regular lineup, minus Nunez
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 03, 2011 
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Still no word on a move, but it looks like Lance Pendleton will be active. Pendleton said he’s not sure what the move is. The Yankees told him to go to the big leagues and he said OK, no questions asked.
Brett Gardner LF
Curtis Ganderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Russell Martin C
Ramiro Pena SS
Freddy Garcia RHP
So now Eduardo Nunez is untouchable?
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“Why on earth would we trade Nunez? 100% sure we would not.”
YF!
There is at least as compelling an argument not to trade Montero, if not far more compelling, yet they almost did and the rumors of trading him in the future abound.
Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
“Why on earth would we trade Nunez? 100% sure we would not.”
YF! There is at least as compelling an argument not to trade Montero, if not far more compelling, yet they almost did and the rumors of trading him in the future abound.
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We need Nunez. We don’t need Montero. He’s a want not a need.
I say we play the field with two shortstops and 5 catchers. You can never have enough shortstops and catchers on the field at the same time.
They don’t need Montero? Jeter is still a better hitter than Martin, by a lot.
We don’t need Montero?
So who did Nunez get traded to?
I’d love to have Montero but we have lots of catching depth and plenty of hitting on this team.
When Cashman was trying to acquire Lee didn’t the M’s request that Nunez replace an injured Adams as part of the package ? Or was that the Haren non-trade ? I forget.
I believe Cashman’s answer was no. Shows he places quite a lot of value on Nunez.
Id trade Nunez…..but it would have to be as part of something pretty big. No Nunez for LOOGY or back end starter deals……he’s too valuable for that.
It will look strange when you see Corban Joseph standing next to Robinson Cano at 2nd base. People will think it’s a shift play with Joseph moving over from the whole at shorstop…but then they will notice Jeter and Nunez at shortstop AND Laird guarding the fouline at 3b right next to Arod.
DON’T TRADE ANYBODY.
They don’t have one catcher besides Montero who is almost certain to hit well in MLB and that includes Martin.
Trade Banuelos, Montero and Nunez. They prefer wearing Nike sneakers.
Montero is starting to heat up a bit….
Was it Nunez or Nova that held up the Seattle trade? I want to say Nova, but the point I’m trying to make is that Cashman has resisted trading Nunez so far. He’s next in line for the 2nd position that will need to he filled (with catcher being the first). Nunez is here for good I think.
What a week for Djojokovic!
GB-
In other words, only keep the Addidas guys.
I get it. Those guys are just scrubs anyway.
Joseph isn’t a shortstop unless your plan is to move Cano to first base.
I wonder how you would feel if he did that to killer.
It will be totally awesome watching CC throw darts to his target of choice from 5 catchers behind home plate. He can start off a hitter with a cutter inside to Cervelli, followed by a curve outside to Martin. Then on pitch 3 he can go down and in with a changeup to Austin Romine. JR Murphy and Gary Sanchez don’t have the street cred yet so they can just stand there and argue balls and strikes with the ump. Posada will be jealous.
They said Nunez held it up but I think Seattle was just trying to play Cashman against the Rangers anyway.
Is today’s game gonna get rained out ?
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yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Rich! I don’t agree with trading Montero either. I hope we have realized the error of our ways, but still think Yankees must have their doubts about Montero’s future as a catcher. Nunez is more projectable at a crucial position. & I don’t buy into the idea that he won’t prosper defensively, going forward. Plus his bat at SS is a huge asset.
WC, I do not agree that Montero is only a want. He is a need. This team will get old fast without a power bat like Montero’s infusing the lineup.
Forgot Jesus Montero. He’s the one catcher we want patrolling CF with C GRAND.
MTU, the forecast doesn’t look good.
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to have Montero. But with Martin, Romine and Sanchez, he is expendable.
Seattle knew that adams was hurt. They asked for him and thwn shopped the deal and demanded a better player. I wouldn’t deal with that crap or Smith again. You make and agree on a deal, then back out or demand more, you’re a slug.
That’s the problem: Joseph has no position. Is there a better pure hitter in the system, though? He’s outstanding.
Blake-
We were used and abused but who knows if we could have re-signed
Lee anyway ?
Can you imagine the uproar if they gave them all that for a RENTAL ?
I disagree. We NEED 2 players at 3b, 2 ss, 2b, and 5 catchers not including Montero who will be patrolling CF with Curtis Granderson.
SIGNINGS OF Top International Targets
1. Elier Hernandez, OF, Dominican Republic ==>ROYALS
2. Ronald Guzman, OF, Dominican Republic ==>RANGERS
3. Victor Sanchez, RHP, Venezuela
4. Roberto Osuna, RHP, Mexico
5. Wilmer Becerra, SS/OF, Venezuela
6. Dawel Lugo, SS, Dominican Republic
7. Jose Ruiz, C, Venezuela ==>PADRES
8. Marck Malave, C, Venezuela
9. Luis Enrique Acosta, SS, Dominican Republic ==>CUBS
10. Nomar Mazara, OF, Dominican Republic ==>RANGERS
11. Helsin Martinez, OF, Dominican Republic
12. Adalberto Mondesi, SS, Dominican Republic
13. Luis Reynoso, SS, Dominican Republic
14. Dorssys Paulino, SS, Dominican Republic
15. Harold Ramirez, OF, Colombia ==>PIRATES
16. Manuel Marcos, OF, Dominican Republic
17. Raimel Flores, SS, Dominican Republic
18. Franmil Reyes, OF, Dominican Republic
19. Yohander Mendez, LHP, Venezuea
20. Miguel Andujar, 3B, Dominican Republic
21. Jesus Gonzalez, OF, Venezuela
22. Miguel Gonzalez, RHP, Dominican Republic ==>TWINS
23. Elvis Escobar, OF, Venezuela
24. Jose Garcia, C, Venezuela
25. Carlos Tocci, OF, Venezuela
26. Adelin Santa, 3B, Dominican Republic ==>TIGERS
27. Antonio Senzatela, RHP, Venezuela
28. Mauricio Silva, RHP, Venezuela
29. Anthony Santander, OF, Venezuela
30. Ricardo Marcano, 3B, Venezuela
31. Manuel Gonzalez, RHP, Dominican Republic
32. Gialy Arias, RHP, Dominican Republic
33. Manuel Cordoba, RHP, Venezuela
34. Sanber Pimentel, OF/1B, Dominican Republic
35. Jose Godoy, C, Venezuela
36. Eric Otanez, C, Dominican Republic
37. Yairo Munoz, SS, Dominican Republic
38. Soid Marquez, RHP, Venezuela
39. Jonathan Perez, RHP, Venezuela
40. Arturo Michelena, SS, Venezuela
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WHERE ARE THE YANKEES?!?!?!
It appears Bret has yet to see a young cost-controlled Yankee he doesn’t want to trade for his newest flavor of the day.
YF-
Thanks.
Martin is never a good enough reason to part with Montero.
In fact, there just isn’t a good enough reason.
Montero isn’t expendable even if be never catches a game in NY…..bats with that sort of potential are extremely valuable and extremely expensive if they pan out.
Bojo-
The Yankees are hot on the trail of Osuna.
WRONG Guiseppe. I’m leaning towards an 80 MAN ROSTER.
Bojo, saw KC signed Hernandez. Good for them.
Thanks for posting that list.
yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
WC, I do not agree that Montero is only a want. He is a need. This team will get old fast without a power bat like Montero’s infusing the lineup.
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He’s never proven he can hit big league pitching, I am not sure he will be a good big league catcher and there is little room at DH for the forseeable future.
I think it is likely he will hit in the show, but if I could get a big return for him, I would. consider it.
With 7 errors and 23 passed balls in 33 games, it’ll take Sanchez at least a month to be ready. Sanchez is at least 4 years away.
yf
I’m a prospect hugger, loud and proud, I don’t want to trade any prospect with upside unless there is positional redundancy, and they don’t have that at C or SS, but the Yankees often make short-sighted moves so a trade of either or both wouldn’t surprise me.
What is with this line-up?!?! Is Girardi on Wilpon’s payroll now?!
What?! Is Girardi TRYING to lose?!?!
I would trade Montero for a stud Pitcher.
Which stud pitcher, MTU (and Felix doesn’t count because it’s not happening).
I am hoping the Yankees sign Carlos Tocci, OF, Venezuela. No reason…just have a gut instinct and like the name. Sounds like a big leaguer…
TU July 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Bojo-
The Yankees are hot on the trail of Osuna.
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Osuna bin Laden? Great. We’ll get him.
MTU,
Yea I know….may have worked out for the best long term…..Lee on this current team though would have made them unstoppable in the short term…..Cashman should win exec of the year though for how he handled Lee choosing Philly. The Yankees are on pace to win 100 games at the 1/2 way mark….unbelievable.
Rich-
I didn’t say anyone was available.
But if they were.
Or a stud OF’er like JU.
Would you trade Montero for Hanley ?
“He’s never proven he can hit big league pitching”
Neither did anybody else until they got a chance.
He’s never proven he can hit big league pitching….
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Just. stop. Embarrassing.
GB-
You are tooooo Funny. Lol.
Bojo, no worries, we took our time last year, and did pretty well on IFA’s with especially Romero, Custodio, and Tamarez. I think the identity fraud issues have also made us act more deliberately.
“but the Yankees often make short-sighted moves so a trade of either or both wouldn’t surprise me”
Not nearly as much as they used to. I think you could argue that in the last 3-4 years the Yankees have became increasingly stingy in dealing prospects……something has to really make sense or be a good deal before Cashman will pull the trigger.
MTU
I thought you meant like Kershaw. I only mentioned Felix because I his name is mentioned do often (not be you) and he’s so much better than anyone else of his age group.
No, his 86 OPS+ has to provide more of a discounted price.
If the Yankees had Lee this year would they still have signed Colon and Garcia…..my guess is probably not…..at least probably not Colon.
Surprised it is taking so long for the Yankees to announce International FA signings…I think these are usually locked up prior to July 2…and just announced then.
But the players I have heard that they are interested in include:
4. Roberto Osuna, RHP, Mexico
12. Adalberto Mondesi, SS, Dominican Republic (Raul’s son)
13. Luis Reynoso, SS, Dominican Republic
16. Manuel Marcos, OF, Dominican Republic
37. Yairo Munoz, SS, Dominican Republic
blake July 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 am
“He’s never proven he can hit big league pitching”
Neither did anybody else until they got a chance.
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That’s true. I have never been a big advocate of dealing Montero. I’m just saying that he isn’t a proven commodity and that with Martin being only 28 years old and Romine and Sanchez in the system, I would consider it if I were Cashman, “IF” it was the right deal.
I also said that I didn’t see Montero as a necessity for this team right now and I think Nunez is.
blake
That they offered Montero for two months of Lee suggests to me that although they aren’t the George-Yankees of the ’80s, they will make a big short-sighted move in order to win now, and given the age on the team, and the potential holes at several positions over the next year or two, I wouldn’t do that.
J. Alfred Prufrock July 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
He’s never proven he can hit big league pitching….
Just. stop. Embarrassing.
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That is a fact whether or not you think he can.
Rich,
They are always going to try and win now first…..but to me they are no longer willing to mortgage the future at all costs to do do. Cashman bowing out of the Lee sweepstakes when he sensed he was being played is an indication of that…..
Martin isn’t exactly a proven commodity right now either.
His defense and handling of pitchers is outstanding but his bat has taken a major dive for two months.
We also don’t know if he’ll physically be capable of making it through the season. We’re only at the half-way mark and he’s been banged up quite a bit.
blake
If Cash was the sole decision maker (under whatever budget the owners gave him), I’d be 100% comfortable, but trading Montero for Lee would have been just that.
Zolio Almonte continues to impress for High A Tampa – unfortunately – Heathcott and Heredia now on the DL.
blake July 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Rich,
They are always going to try and win now first…..but to me they are no longer willing to mortgage the future at all costs to do do. Cashman bowing out of the Lee sweepstakes when he sensed he was being played is an indication of that…..
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“I have a great deal of cash outside in my car…”
Rich in NJ July 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
yf
I’m a prospect hugger, loud and proud, I don’t want to trade any prospect with upside unless there is positional redundancy, and they don’t have that at C or SS, but the Yankees often make short-sighted moves so a trade of either or both wouldn’t surprise me.
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I do not at all trust the Yankees when it comes to retaining Montero. Their actions have been questionable. So, I concur. He is not Montero, but they may consider Romine more valuable because they feel he can catch. All conjecture. Hopefully, Yanks in fact do see Montero as a catcher. As for Nunez, I sincerely think they realize they are a better team with him on the roster. I would never say never, but I just don’t see them trading Nunez. He backs up too many infield positions and adds pop and speed, as well as defense.
“If the Yankees had Lee this year would they still have signed Colon and Garcia…..my guess is probably not…..at least probably not Colon.”
If you believe the reports from guys like Sherman, Heyman, etc. there is a great chance Andy would have come back had we gotten Lee.
Wouldn’t have even been fair to throw CC-Lee-Andy against LHP-heavy lineups like BOS and PHI…
Blake-
They better start moving out some of the excess they have in the upper levels or they might just find they lose them for nothing in the Rule V.
Between now and then I would expect some trades to be made for that reason alone.
As much as we’d like to we can keep ‘em all.
What the plan should be is for Martin to move into a part time catching role next year where he catches about 60% of the games and Montero catches the rest. I think Martin would be potentially really good playing that schedule….
I’d still be fine with a Montero for Gio deal…like I was in ST.
Not much future in being a 240 pound shortstop making $50 mil until 2014. Ramirez peaked 2 years ago and numbers have dropped ever since.
Yanks four starters on All Star team- no Martin
Also Cashman did say he would try to get Nunez in the mix in the OF.
West Coast Yankee Fan July 3rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
J. Alfred Prufrock July 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
He’s never proven he can hit big league pitching….
Just. stop. Embarrassing.
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That is a fact whether or not you think he can.
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There is not a single evaluator worth jack who thinks hitting ML pitching will be Montero’s issue.
Yanks97,
Good point…….though I don’t think Andy actually started working out until Lee signed…..so Im not.sure I buy that. I think he may have been done either way.
MTU,
Agreed……Phelps, Warren, Nova, Hughes, Noesi, Betances, Banuelos etc…..can’t all be in the rotation…..
Giuseppe Franco July 3rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Martin isn’t exactly a proven commodity right now either. His defense and handling of pitchers is outstanding but his bat has taken a major dive for two months. We also don’t know if he’ll physically be capable of making it through the season. We’re only at the half-way mark and he’s been banged up quite a bit.
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Catchers get banged up, and we have a serviceable backup in Cervelli. Please allow me to note that Cervelli is hitting .333 with 13 RBI’s with RISP and .750 with 7 RBI’s with the bases loaded.
Martin is one of the best defensive catchers in baseball. He basically tells pitchers like Burnett and Nova, go ahead, bounce it, I got it. His hitting is a bonus on this team. Like his 3 run blast the other night.
I’m not worried at all.
edit: Can’t. sorry.
yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Also Cashman did say he would try to get Nunez in the mix in the OF.
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Wasn’t it more like he was asked & said it may be something we look at? I would love it to have been their proactive thought instead. I don’t remember the context.
Bojo,
Sign me up. I know you think it’s not plausible at all but Oakland could use long-term offense. They could deal from their rotation and stay competitive in that department. Beane must have some plan to revamp that offense.
I really hope he would show interest in young bats like Montero, Nunez, Gardner and Joseph.
7 out 8 and Nunez is not playing. Nuts
West Coast Yankee Fan July 3rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
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I actually agree with you…hence:
EVACUATION PROCEDURES FOR END OF WORLD SCENARIO
1. Bend over
2. Kiss your ass good-bye
Bojo, not true. We have been signing IFA’s later and later. That July 2nd date is just the beginning date. We may have signed Brito right at the start; however, we didn’t sign Romero until October of last year and Custodio until April of this year, I believe.
I feel so dirty….
…you are dirty.
WC, you severely underrate the value of having a catcher who can hit. Martin at his current production doesn’t meet that criteria. Hopefully, he improves, but if they don’t keep him fresh, he will be a liability at the plate.
*criterion*
Prufrock, not sure. I thought it came from Cash???
GB, unfortunately, Hanley just can’t stay healthy.
yankeefeminista July 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
WC, you severely underrate the value of having a catcher who can hit. Martin at his current production doesn’t meet that criteria. Hopefully, he improves, but if they don’t keep him fresh, he will be a liability at the plate.
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I don’t believe that is true. Martin is light years away from being a liability on this team and I give him a great deal of credit for our pitchers success. They say the same thing. Our record right now proves this to be true. We don’t need Martin to be a great hitter.
It’s amazing how stupid people can be about offense from catcher, as if it doesn’t have some tangible connection to putting a lineup at a distinct advantage to actually win ballgames, but is instead some luxury insisted on by the fussy.
Heck of a match from Novak Djokovic at Wimbledon. Stunning returns, ground strokes, and defense to beat Rafael Nadal..
Go Yanks! Not sure about the whole Martin conversation, but I will say his catching and game calling are top notch. Who cares how he’s batting at this point? He’s gotten the very best at our every single pitcher. Credit to the pitching staff, but it really can’t be a coincidence that the whole team is pitching amazingly.
Not confirmed as yet:
But – IFA Miguel Andujar 3B signed 750,000.