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Pregame notes: “He can just be Derek Jeter again”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Jul 06, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Ever since it was decided that Derek Jeter would come off the disabled list on Monday, Joe Girardi has planned to give him today’s game off. It seemed like a good mid-point between his rehab games and the all-star break. As of last night, he was still planning to sit Jeter tonight.

Then he talked to Jeter after last night’s game, slept on the decision, and woke up having changed his mind.

“Just from talking to him, I got the sense that he’s thinking about it,” Giradi said. “And he wants to get this done with so he can just go on and be Derek Jeter, not Derek Jeter pursuing 3,000 hits. That’s the sense I got from him. I’m not telling you that’s what he was saying to me, but that’s the sense that I got. I started thinkng about it, you know what, if I was in pursuit of 3,000 hits – which, I was never close to – I don’t know if I’d want a day off to think about it. I’d want to get back out there.”

Girardi said his first conversation was with the training staff, which assured him that Jeter’s calf was fine. Then he talked to Jeter at the stadium. Then Girardi texted with him when he got back to the hotel.

“His thing was how much I’m playing just coming back,” Jeter said. “I told him I was fine and that was pretty much the extent of it… He said he was going to sleep on it. He said that from the get go. He just told me what he was thinking, and I told him what I was thinking, and he came to a decision.”

Girardi’s new plan is this: Play Jeter until he gets 3,000 hits.

“If we can,” Girardi said. “So we can get this through with and he can just be Derek Jeter again.”

Here’s Girardi’s lengthy pregame session in the dugout.

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• If Jeter gets three hits in his first three at-bats and the Yankees have a big lead, Girardi said he might get him out of the game and give him a chance to get the milestone at home. “I’m going to manage to win the game,” Girardi said. “That’s the bottom line. I would love for him to be 3-for-3 and we had a big lead, but I don’t know what I would do. I hope I get in that situation that he’s 3-for-3 and we have a big lead. That would be nice.”

• Mariano Rivera felt better today than he felt yesterday, but he’s still not sure whether he’ll actually pitch tonight. “If it’s necessary, yes,” he said. “Knowing Geno and knowing Girardi, they might give me another day. I might take another day.”

• Lance Pendleton was optioned to Triple-A to make room for Phil Hughes. Girardi said he’s hoping to get six or seven innings out of Hughes tonight. “The radar gun is one of the tools you see how much a guy’s stuff is falling off, if you think they’re getting tired,” Girardi said. “I won’t watch (the radar) any different tonight than I would any other night.”

• Triple-A reliever Kanekoa Texeira was released to make room for Hughes on the 40-man roster. “Don’t get that confused with Mark,” Girardi said.

• Get this: Damaso Marte threw a bullpen today. Seriously. That’s what Girardi told us.

• Of course, it’s one step forward and one step back for injured lefties. Pedro Feliciano was shutdown today because of soreness. He’ll be shut down for a week.

• Rafael Soriano threw a bullpen yesterday and will throw another tomorrow. He seems to be progressing.

• No update on Eric Chavez.

• Hughes is not scheduled to pitch again until after the all-star break. Girardi said it will probably stay that way. There are no plans to have him pitch any sort of minor league or simulated game over the break. “He’ll maybe throw a couple bullpens, we’ll see,” Girardi said. “Maybe throw one Friday, throw one Sunday, but we’ll see. No plans.”

• Eduardo Nunez is ready to go.

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37 Responses to “Pregame notes: “He can just be Derek Jeter again””

  1. kd July 6th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    the thought of jeter being jeter should warm the heart of all yankee fans

  2. Betsy July 6th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    I don’t get why they wouldn’t have Phil pitch a minor league game – just to keep him on routine. Do they really think he needs a rest?

    Give Mo as much time as he needs – and then an extra day or two.

  3. Tom in N.J. July 6th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Marte is the forgotten loogy.

  4. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 6th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Has Jeter become someone else since the chase started? I get what Girardi is saying – they want the distraction over and done with. So do I and most people I talk to. But this notion that the chase has somehow changed Jeter is nonsense.

  5. blake July 6th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Yes….play him until he gets 3,000….then give him a day off if you want.

  6. blake July 6th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    That sounds like a movie title ….”The Forgotten LOOGY” starring Damaso Marte.

  7. LGY July 6th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Betsy,

    btw, I’ve changed my mind again about Hughes starting tonight :P

    If he made another mL rehab start or they worked the schedule so he got 2 starts before the ASB, that takes away one start from CC before the break.

    The last thing you want to do is take away a start from CC. He should start as often as possible.

  8. DocTodd July 6th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    After he gets hit 3,000 , move Mr. Coffee down to the 8th or 9th spot….

  9. Betsy July 6th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    I don’t expect Marte back, unfortunately…….

    LGY, I hadn’t thought about that……of course you’re right

  10. blake July 6th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Go Hughes! They need to see what he is before the trade deadline.

  11. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Pedro Feliciano was shutdown today because of soreness. He’ll be shut down for a week.

    ========

    If I were Cashman I would get an investigation going to see if the recent Mets series had anything to do with this. I wouldnt put it past them.

  12. igotid88 July 6th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    I think Hughes should get an inning or 2 on Sunday in relief

  13. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    • No update on Eric Chavez.

    =======

    Better than bad news?

  14. Betsy July 6th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Blake he’s only going to have a few starts before the deadline – I don’t think there will be enough of a line on Phil.

  15. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    • Eduardo Nunez is ready to go.

    ********

    Can we send Pena back down, bring up two boppers and give Jones his see ya papers then?

  16. igotid88 July 6th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Call me crazy but I don’t think they need to get another starter. No matter how Hughes does tonight.

  17. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Im really interested in seeing how Nova responds to the demotion in his first minor league start.

  18. blake July 6th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Betsy,

    No.but Im sure they want as much of a sample as they can get.

  19. Betsy July 6th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Blake, yes, but I think at most it’s going to be 2 or 3 starts. It’s something, I suppose, but not really enough. The Yankees are going to have to act or not based on a few starts………it’s tough.

  20. m July 6th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Who besides the aces of the league is on the market and better than the 6 pitchers we have?

  21. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 6th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    “Call me crazy but I don’t think they need to get another starter. No matter how Hughes does tonight.”

    Probably not, but you never know. Injuries happen when you least expect them. And like they always say, you can never have too much starting pitching.

  22. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    mel,
    I wouldnt mind getting Beddard for a half a season if the price is right.

  23. LGY July 6th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    People called Cliff Lee or Dan Haren overkill at this time last year…

    justsayin

  24. m July 6th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    We got screwed on Lee (and then later by Lee :P ) . Also, wasn’t there a ridiculous asking price for Haren?

  25. m July 6th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Bedard? I would use him as a LOOGY. haha.

    Seriously, who does he replace in the rotation?

  26. Chad Jennings July 6th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    To be clear, Hughes would have to be optioned or put back on the DL to pitch in a minor league game. He can’t just go down and pitch in one because the Yankees want to keep him on turn.

  27. 4time July 6th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    “People called Cliff Lee or Dan Haren overkill at this time last year…

    justsayin”

    Bingo. If they have an opportunity to get a good pitcher, they need to do it. They need to have an eye towards October.

    And remember folks, a lot of this is based on translating. Chances are, you won’t be able to acquire a good pitcher having a good year for anything less than multiple top prospects. Haren last year was getting lit up in Arizona and allowing a lot of HRs and people kept quoting his ERA as a reason why it is risky to get him. This year? Like the rest of his career, he is pitching like a front-end guy. Look at the body of work, not half a season, when evaluating a pitcher in his prime. They sold Haren low, foolishly.

  28. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    mel,
    Anyone not named CC or Colon. He would be a solid #3.

  29. G-C July 6th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    “Blake, yes, but I think at most it’s going to be 2 or 3 starts. It’s something, I suppose, but not really enough. The Yankees are going to have to act or not based on a few starts………it’s tough.”

    ____________________________________________

    I don’t really think so.

    If he comes out throwing bb’s tonight and tosses 7 innings of 1 run ball or whatnot, then you have to feel confident that whatever phantom injury plagued him is completely in the past.

    The real problem with Phil is the fact that his body seems to be made of a little bit of glass. That arm is golden. The ability is real. My only real question with him is whether he can sustain it like someone who is built like he is and has been protected like he has should.

    I don’t think whether the organization gets to see him four times before the trading deadline instead of two, etc., is going to be a predictor of his future health.

  30. m July 6th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Okaay. Burnett’s not going anywhere. CC/Colon/Burnett/Mystery Pitcher/Garcia and Hughes to…? Ivan stays in AAA?

  31. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Chad,
    Then we should have Hughes pitch a simulated game against Jones to keep building his arm strength and most of all his confidence at a high level.

  32. LGY July 6th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    I want to see a major league quality curveball from Hughes.

  33. Yank 97 July 6th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    “Also, wasn’t there a ridiculous asking price for Haren?”

    Not at all. Most of the names mentioned – Brackman, Nova, Nunez, McAllister, etc. were B-Level guys. Joba was also mentioned.

    Montero, Banuelos, Betances, etc. were not mentioned at all from what I remember.

    The problem is, they went into it half-heartedly, IMO. They had no real need. All of their starters were pitching well at the time. I’m sure there were questions about if he would be a good fit in NYS with his HR tendencies, etc. But if they wanted Haren, they could have beaten the Angels package in their sleep.

  34. Yank 97 July 6th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    “I want to see a major league quality curveball from Hughes.”

    Would be nice. It has been a long time since we have seen it.

  35. SoS July 6th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    mel,
    You can never have too much pitching. You can always find room for a top notch pitcher. It wasnt long ago that Bedard was an ACE. Hes pitching like one again. Granted hes injury prone but thats a risk I would gladly take for the right price. Colon so far has turned out ok.

  36. Ghostwriter July 6th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    SoS July 6th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    mel,
    You can never have too much pitching. You can always find room for a top notch pitcher.
    ============================

    You know—that isn’t literally true. It possible to have too much of any good thing, even love, and yes, even pitching. Too much is too much: At some point diminishing returns start to kick in. Right now, it looks like the Yanks are about 6 or 7 deep in terms of starting pitchers for a limited number rotation slots. How are you going to get them enough starts, when even slots/starts in the minor leagues are limited? We just sent down a promising prospect, who had been performing well, because we didn’t have room for him on the big club. I guess that you can always find a slot for another pitcher, but at some point, it will mean dropping another guy.

  37. BoJo July 6th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    “Get this: Damaso Marte threw a bullpen today.”
    ____
    How far did he throw it?


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