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All-Star Game: American League at National League

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 12, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Curtis Granderson CF
Asdrubal Cabrera SS
Adrian Gonzalez 1B
Jose Bautista RF
Josh Hamilton LF
Adrian Beltre 3B
David Ortiz DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Avila C

RHP Jered Weaver (11-4, 1.86)

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Rickie Weeks 2B
Carlos Beltran DH
Matt Kemp CF
Prince Fielder 1B
Brian McCann C
Lance Berkman RF
Matt Holliday LF
Troy Tulowitzki SS
Scott Rolen 3B

RHP Roy Halladay (11-3, 2.45)

TIME/TV: 8 p.m. ET, FOX

WEATHER: It’s Arizona. I’m not there, but I’m guessing it’s hot and sunny.

YANKEES IN ATTENDANCE: Curtis Granderson will be leading off for the American League, and Robinson Cano will be starting at second base fresh off his Home Run Derby win. Russell Martin is available off the bench, and Dave Robertson is available out of the bullpen.

“I cant believe that I reqlly made the All-Star team,” Robertson said. “You grow up watching these guys, so to actually be here, I’m thrilled.”

YANKEES SITTING OUT: Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and Mariano Rivera were selected for the team, but they’ll skip the event because of recent injuries. CC Sabathia was also picked, but he pitched Sunday, wouldn’t have been eligible to pitch in the game, and is spending the break in the Bahamas.

“I hope people understand (Jeter) has to take care of his leg,” Robinson Cano said. “He came off the DL and kept getting treatment. His health comes first.”

CREDIT WHERE IT’S DUE: Martin was leading the fan vote at catcher until the final week of voting. That’s when Avila moved ahead and bumped Martin to the bench.

“I would say it was disappointing, but I didn’t deserve the start,” Martin said. “I was kind of happy that I got out-voted, because Avila really deserves it. To be here at all, being voted by the players, that’s an honor.”

MORE THAN MOST: The Yankees have more all-stars than any other team in baseball. In all, they had eight players selected. You could easily make a case that a ninth — Mark Teixeira — deserved a spot.

“I think it talks about the first-half that our guys have had, and how well they’ve played,” Joe Girardi said. “You end up with three pitchers, which is outstanding, and I think our pitching staff has performed very, very well. And almost our whole infield with our catcher. They’ve played very well.”

A VERY GOOD WEEK: Jeter has been named the American League Player of the Week for his first week off the disabled list. Obviously the week was highlighted by Jeter’s 3,000th hit, which came in one of the most memorable games of his career.

WATCHING ON TV: I’m not in Arizona, but it’s nice to have good friends who are in Arizona, one of whom was kind enough to send me some Yankees quotes from media day. It’s much appreciated. Enjoy the game everyone. Don’t forget about the chat tomorrow.

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350 Responses to “All-Star Game: American League at National League”

  1. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Go AL!

  2. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    MTU,

    one thing you notice about the Rays is how slowly they move guys and especially pitchers through the organization……they make sure they are 100% (or as close as possible) ready before bringing guys up. Wade Davis threw 190 innings in AAA before getting the call. They do this I think because 1) they can’t afford to miss on these guys so they need them to be ready 2) because if they wait and bring guys up when they are 23 or 24 then they will get their prime years through arbitration before they become free agents…..instead of getting their pre-prime years and some other team getting their prime.

  3. Bronx Jeers July 12th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    WEATHER: It’s Arizona. I’m not there, but I’m guessing it’s hot and sunny.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    WEATHER: Unfit for homo sapiens.

  4. tyanksfan36 July 12th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Blake

    The Rays also move their guys slower because they can. They can also deal with the growing pains because if they don’t do well(as a team overall, not the player) they can just blame it on not having money and the only thing they can do is deal with that kind of stuff.

    Matt Moore is going to be serious trouble for the Yankees in about 2 years. A lefty that led the FSL in strikeouts last year, he was tops in all of the minor leagues in strikeouts if I remember correctly. Him and David Price…dang.

  5. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Tyanks,
    yes that’s true as well.

  6. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Bronx Jeers July 12th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    WEATHER: It’s Arizona. I’m not there, but I’m guessing it’s hot and sunny.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    WEATHER: Unfit for homo sapiens.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Sapien bashing?

  7. Kelvin July 12th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Tyler clippard! So cool to see him succeed

  8. Yank1 July 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Yankees RHP Luis Ayala has been selected to the All Star Game replacing ineligible pitcher Felix Hernandez

    Red Sox RHP John Lackey has also been selected to the team, replacing the injured Chris Perez

  9. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Why is Cano batting 8th?

  10. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    I also just had the thought, if people are upset that Jeter is missing the all star game as a sign to the fans, well, who are these upset fans? Are there any Yankee fans upset because Jeter isn’t playing?

  11. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Cashman’s whole thing was about developing starters and not going outside the org for trades and esp free agents.

    Well… Since then he basically gave Kennedy no shot, yanked Joba around and made him a reliever, who knows what to make of Phil but I highly doubt this is what Cash envisioned at this point. Plus they made him a RP for a full season.

    Signed CC and AJ. Tried to trade the Yanks top prospect for Roy. Tried to trade their top prospect plus more for a few months of Lee. Tried to trade for Haren. Tried to trade for Greinke. Traded for Vazquez (and gave up one of their top pitching prospects for him).

    Offered a 32 year old Lee a massive contract. Had guys like Kuroda and de la Rosa on his list as backup plans.

    And sits here with a rotation of CC AJ Bartolo Colon Freddy Garcia and Phil Hughes as he continues his endless search for top pitching from outside the org this trade deadline and the upcoming winter.

    I really doubt this is what Cash had in mind. One homegrown starter who is a total wildcard right now.

  12. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Also, weren’t players supposed to be boycotting this all star game because it’s in Arizona? What happened to that?

  13. I Am Winning July 12th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    When is the game scheduled to start?

    I just want to watch some baseball, I absolutely despise these extremely long introductions.

  14. djsunyc July 12th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    i wonder how many of this years all stars will be on the team in the future…

  15. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    LGY, I’m thrilled with Granderson so I do not look at it that he gave up on IPK. That doesn’t bother me in the least – I would re-do that trade any time, any day.

    I don’t think it’s fair to blame Cashman for Joba and Phil’s struggles. Did you want Phil in the pen in 2009 or did you think he should go down to AAA upon Wang’s return? I don’t think he’s done a great job, mind you, but IMO the only people to truly blame for where they are now are Phil and Joba – nothing against them personally, but IMO, the player is the one who determines the course of his career. The fact that Phil can’t stay healthy or develop decent secondary pitches or comes to camp overweight (sort of backing up Sherman’s claims from a few years ago that his work ethic is shaky) is not Cashman’s fault – that’s on Phil. Some guys just do not mature and develop beyond where they were when they dominated kids……….to me, that looks like it’s completely on Phil. At some point maybe we should just decide that he doesn’t have as much ability as first thought. The Yankees/any org. can only do so much.

    Much the same goes with Joba. He clearly is a stubborn guy (so is Phil) and that has cost him – that’s not on anyone except him. He probably should have been given another shot in the rotation in 2010, but then Phil would have remained in AAA or sent to the pen that year- would you have wanted to see that?

    They never tried to trade for Greinke, not really. Are you that upset that he wanted to get Roy Halladay? Vasquez is pure bad luck -I’m not a huge Cashman fan anymore, but the reasoning was sound. I won’t blame him for that.

  16. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    8th is where Cano belongs in that lineup

  17. djsunyc July 12th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    that show terranova looks like it’s going to be a huge bomb…

  18. Yank1 July 12th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    “And sits here with a rotation of CC AJ Bartolo Colon Freddy Garcia and Phil Hughes as he continues his endless search for top pitching from outside the org this trade deadline and the upcoming winter.”

    And when we need a spot starter, who does he go to? Brian Gordon. After he spends all of ST talking about how he has 4 guys in AAA who would be in the rotation of 20 (or some number he used) ML teams. They are trying to force feed Hughes to us, and he will likely fall well below the expectations of him set back in 06 or so.

    But your post was 100% spot on.

  19. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Betsy

    I’m not passing judgement about any of those things.

    I’m merely pointing out what has transpired since his declaration about developing homegrown starters and not going outside the org.

  20. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    The Brian Gordon move was ridiculous …….great, so he compared him to Rasner/Karstens/Moseley; for that we’ve kept Noesi on ice? That kid has had a totally wasted year with absolutely no development. I’m not saying he’s Cy Young, but WTH? It’s beyond ludicrous

  21. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    LGY, that’s true, but it’s true in part because the young pitchers never developed. He had to go and get CC/AJ……….Joba and Phil really have messed up their plans if you want to be truthful. It’s one thing for them not to be aces, but for them to be relievers/mediocre starters who may not even be on the team in a few years is amazing to me.

  22. I Am Winning July 12th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    I hope the AL can pull off yet another All Star Game win.

    Tyler Clippard is pretty darn close to have more than double the innings pitched than hits given up. If only we kept on to him a little longer.

  23. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    I read a couple weeks ago that the Yanks were willing to trade Montero for Greinke but thought the total package the Royals wanted was too much.

  24. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Brian Gordon was a great move.

    Picked him up for nothing, got a win and some innings out of him, didn’t burn anyone for that short amount of time he was needed, and ended up with some Korean coin on the back end.

    Very well done, Mr. Cashman.

  25. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    LGY,

    I don’t think that’s been Cashman’s plan…..but they haven’t been able to draft Tim Lincecum, David, Price, or Felix Hernandez……you can try all you want but you have to have the players at the end of the day…..hopefully Betances or Banuelos, of maybe even Hughes will still be one of those guys.

    I know its not what it used to be……but I still love the all star game.

  26. Benny Blanco July 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    LGY,

    Cashman also said he met with Greinke and felt that it was too much of a risk; not sure if he could handle NY.

  27. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    LGY,

    You can also argue that Cashman prospect hugged away a chance at Dan Haren…..who would be making a huge difference right now.

  28. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    I really would like to see a poll of Yankee fans upset that Jeter didn’t show for the All Star Game.

    The press just came up with this story and rolled with it. Jeter controversy, woo hoo! Upset MLB officials? Yeah, sure, they’d want Jeter to be there. That’s in their best interests, but it’s not in the best interests of Jeter or the Yankees. They can stuff it. This is a non issue, and I’m glad Chad recognized as much.

  29. Benny Blanco July 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Doc Halladay is just ridiculous….92 mph and unhittable.

  30. randy l. July 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    “I really doubt this is what Cash had in mind. One homegrown starter who is a total wildcard right now.”

    wow, lgy is coming around to my way of thinking about cashman being a novice on how to develop pitchers ( though i think cashman’s learning from his mistakes).

    i definitely have to rethink my position about cashman in general. any time lgy and i agree on something is a red flag something may be amiss.

  31. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    The Jeter story is totally media and talk radio driven…..its nonsense. Jeter’s #1 responsibility is to the Yankees and to be ready to play in the 2nd half.

  32. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    This is an example of why the All Star game is broken. The MLB can’t tell us to care about this game, but home field advantage on the line, and then force pitchers like Halladay out of the game when they’re dealing. Every all star doesn’t have the right to get into the game, I’m sorry.

    If they’re so huffy about this game meaning something, why don’t they have managers manage like it means something?

  33. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    The Jeter story is totally media and talk radio driven…..its nonsense. Jeter’s #1 responsibility is to the Yankees and to be ready to play in the 2nd half.
    ———–

    Spot on.

  34. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Major League Baseball commissioner Bud Selig went to bat for Derek Jeter on Tuesday, insisting he had no problem with the New York Yankees shortstop’s decision to skip the All-Star Game and said he would have made the same decision if he were in Jeter’s situation.

    Game. Set. Match. This is so a non issue!

  35. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Pitchers have never thrown more than a couple of.innings……if.CC were out there I certainly wouldn’t want him going.more than 2 no matter how he’s throwing.

  36. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Benny Blanco July 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
    LGY,

    Cashman also said he met with Greinke and felt that it was too much of a risk; not sure if he could handle NY.
    ______
    I suspect it was that Greinke was wearing his underwear outside his suit clothes in a fancy NYC restaurant that tipped Cashman off.

  37. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    What the fudge is this?

  38. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    D rob!

  39. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    This is an example of why the All Star game is broken. The MLB can’t tell us to care about this game, but home field advantage on the line, and then force pitchers like Halladay out of the game when they’re dealing. Every all star doesn’t have the right to get into the game, I’m sorry.

    ===============

    I agree. They should at least give us a couple of innings of Halladay. They started insisting on playing everybody about 20 years ago, culminating in the embarassing tie game several years ago.

    I’m surprised to see Robertson in the second inning.

  40. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Beckett hurt again

  41. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Anyone have an internet feed for the game?

  42. blake July 12th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Beckett’s.knee is hurting..

  43. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    The health of Beckett’s back is boycotting Arizona.

  44. 11 CF July 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    DRob getting squeezed

  45. Benny Blanco July 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    now they want to squeeze drob..

  46. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    WOW

  47. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
    The health of Beckett’s back is boycotting Arizona.
    ———-

    Haha. Glad to see someone is. Especially Beckett’s back ;)

    Awesome for Robertson. He’s on the main stage now!

  48. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Blue Jays mgmt just had a heart attack

  49. blake July 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Nice catch!

  50. blake July 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    That’s the kind of curveball Hughes needs.

  51. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Yankee D!!

  52. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    That’s a beautiful thing. Yeah DRob!

  53. blake July 12th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Nicely done.

  54. Benny Blanco July 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    froze him…

  55. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Lot of lefties in AL lineup. Lee, Hamels or Kershaw coming in?

  56. luis July 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    blake July 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    I think MTU asked Drob to teach it to Hughes, lol

  57. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    I would love nothing more for Cano to light Lee up.

  58. Benny Blanco July 12th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    I’m so tired of Doc and Cliff lee…UGHHHHH.

  59. blake July 12th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    “I think MTU asked Drob to teach it to Hughes, lol”

    That would be nice.

  60. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Blake

    True about Haren

  61. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Cano next to Papi in the dugout ;)

  62. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Papi would love to be the Yankee DH next season.

  63. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Pineda spent very little time in AAA and soon will be approaching the innings pitched in 2010 in the minors.

  64. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    they aren’t going to let up on jeter

  65. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Ugh the missing all stars talk again. Yet no mention that DJ just came off the DL, Mo is hurt, and CC was an alternate. Unreal

  66. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    # Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Papi would love to be the Yankee DH next season.
    ———————————————————————-
    said that a month ago and peeps here call me nuts

  67. CompassRosy July 12th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Atta boy, Michael <3

  68. hardwired7 July 12th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Jeter is so selfish.

    Poor Joe Buck and Tim McCarver. Derek has so mightily deprived them.

  69. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    joeman-
    hopefully the peeps aren’t out tonight.
    Steinbrenner wanted to sign Ortiz for the 2003 season. Cashman had to remind him that they already had Giambi, signed the year before. Yankees would have been 2004 WS champs.

  70. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    I’ll take that, A-Gon. No complaints here.

  71. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    GOODBYE!!

  72. luis July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    I hate Agon, but that was so nice!!!!

  73. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    I can’t force myself to root for that HR

  74. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Thanks, Adrian.

  75. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Nick-

    $$$ on Adrian??

  76. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Yank this bum.

  77. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    No $$$ on Adrian, I just want the Yanks to get home field advantage for the World Series!

    (Oh yeah, I put a few bucks on the AL in this game, too)

  78. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    # Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    joeman-
    hopefully the peeps aren’t out tonight.
    Steinbrenner wanted to sign Ortiz for the 2003 season. Cashman had to remind him that they already had Giambi, signed the year before. Yankees would have been 2004 WS champs.
    ————————————-
    George had a thing for Ortiz…wanted him on this team

  79. RS July 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Much easier to root for Gonzalez when it’s against Cliff Lee.

  80. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Cliff Lee is thinking “This is why I chose the NL”. :P

  81. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Agone is some hitter just a great all around player

  82. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Awful send.

  83. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Stupid to challenge Hunter Pence’s arm. Had 16 assists one year.

  84. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Who let Bobby Meacham be the AL 3rd Base Coach? :P

  85. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Holy crap! Clippard is an All Star! Another for mer Yankee farm hand… What did we get for him from the Nats?

  86. Kelvin July 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    We got Johnathan albaladejo lol

  87. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Why isn’t Pineda pitching again?

  88. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    ALBALADEJO

  89. jacksquat July 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    CJ Wilson is overrated.

  90. ctyankeefan. July 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Good thing Ron Washington got his picks of players… lol

  91. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    CJ Wilson hurting his big payday as a FA.

  92. luis July 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Obviously the guy CC got snubed for gives a three run homeer

  93. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Crap, I wanted to see Curtis run that down. :mad:

  94. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    It’s a good thing Washington picked Wilson to be an All Star. God forbid the AL have home field advantage in the World Series.

  95. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Oh yes, I forgot about Albaladejo. I guess he is on the DL?

  96. Yank1 July 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    CJ Wilson totally deserved to be selected over CC…

  97. spiv1926 July 12th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Listening to sports radio this morning some caller said he was a Yankee and Jeter fan, but lost all respect for him. Evidently the airwaves have trolls too. Unbelievable. Needless to say I turned off the radio

    Got to the office and obnoxious red sox fan in next cube asks me rhetorically what I think about Jeter declining. He thought that Jeter let down his fans

    Again another troll, and again unbelievable .

    Pre Jeter 3000 this guy says Jeter shoulnt be there, he doesn’t deserve it. Post Jeter 3000 the guy says Jeter needs to be there. Which one is it. To quote Woody Alllens mother ” you can’t ride two horses with one behind”

    Not to mention Jeter is still rehabing and needs the rest.

    j

  98. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Never mind. Isee Albaldejo is with the Yomiuri Giants this year. I guess the Yanks released him, and I missed it.

  99. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Cmon Towers-Cashman is probably trying right now to trade JU to the Yankees.

  100. ctyankeefan. July 12th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Oh yes, I forgot about Albaladejo. I guess he is on the DL?

    I believe he signed in Japan. Could be wrong though.

  101. Kelvin July 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    I think albaladejo is in Japan baseball now

  102. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    One angle that seems to be overlooked in this whole Jeter scenario is the family angle. We know he missed his sister’s kids baptism on Sunday. Isn’t it possible he wanted to make up for not being there by spending his ASB with family? He may even be the kid’s godfather….

  103. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    spiv1926 July 12th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Listening to sports radio this morning some caller said he was a Yankee and Jeter fan, but lost all respect for him. Evidently the airwaves have trolls too. Unbelievable. Needless to say I turned off the radio.
    ——————

    I hate when people do that! There are idiots that call into the CSPAN call-in show in the morning, and pull the same stunt. It’s so transparent and childish. Who do they think that they are fooling?

  104. Swishalicious33 July 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Choke Job Wilson had no business being at the ASG, especially over CC. Way to go there Ronnie

  105. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Hmmm, Captain America looks a little more uplifting than Rise of the Planet of the Apes. :neutral:

  106. jacksquat July 12th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Again, I don’t care if Jeter isn’t there, but someone thinking he didn’t deserve to be there and someone thinking he should be there since the fans voted him in are not mutually exclusive.

  107. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Albaladejo signed with the Giants-the Yomiuri Giants

  108. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Hmmm, Captain America looks a little more uplifting than Rise of the Planet of the Apes. :neutral:
    ————
    :???:

    I don’t get why they need to do a remake of a really bad sequel. The first Planet of the Apes, I can see, but the sequel? Yeesh–what people won’t do for money…

  109. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    This Kershaw would look great in pinstripes….

  110. djsunyc July 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    it’s not a sequel – it’s a prequel…

  111. pat July 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Know your Yankees? Team voted on “yearbook” type awards for each other…….

    Who is the loudest on the team plane?

    Who primps and takes the longest to get ready postgame?

    Who is the slowest Yankee?

    Who is the best-dressed?

    Who would be the toughest to beat in arm wrestling?

    Which Yankee would be most likely to have a deer mounted above their fireplace?

    Who would you most want at your side in a brawl?

    Who would score the best on “Jeopardy”?

    Best at Card Games and Video Games:

    Which Yankee would have been most likely to be class president in high school?

    Some obvious and some surprises. Winners in the link.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....lenews_wsj

  112. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    ” Isn’t it possible he wanted to make up for not being there by spending his ASB with family? He may even be the kid’s godfather….”

    Except that the Daily News today ran photos of Jeter in Miami with Minka. She’s shooting Charlie’s Angels down there. I don’t care if Jeter was sitting at home clipping his toenails. The outrage over him not being there is beyond hypocritical. Most of the people complaining that he didn’t go are the same ones who complained when he got the most votes at SS. You can’t have it both ways.

  113. Tom in N.J. July 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    I thought CC was named to the All Star game but withdrew…

  114. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    ” Isn’t it possible he wanted to make up for not being there by spending his ASB with family? He may even be the kid’s godfather….”

    Except that the Daily News today ran photos of Jeter in Miami with Minka. She’s shooting Charlie’s Angels down there. I don’t care if Jeter was sitting at home clipping his toenails. The outrage over him not being there is beyond hypocritical. Most of the people complaining that he didn’t go are the same ones who complained when he got the most votes at SS. You can’t have it both ways.
    ==================

    Spot on.

  115. pat July 12th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    “Isn’t it possible he wanted to make up for not being there by spending his ASB with family? ”

    The paparrazzi pictures of him and Minka eating lunch in Miami Beach yesterday would probably make that a tough sell.

  116. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Tom in N.J. July 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    I thought CC was named to the All Star game but withdrew…
    ——————
    After something like two or three other guys pulled out. I don’t blame him for declining. Who needs it?

  117. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Jeter doesn’t owe any excuses to anybody. It was his prerogative not to go to the AllStar game.

  118. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    “I don’t get why they need to do a remake of a really bad sequel.”

    I don’t know much about this new movie, but it looks more like a re-imagining than a re-mak of the 3rd film in the original franchise.

    I just have a feeling things aren’t going to go well for the humans, and that’s got to include James Franco.

  119. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    I think Derek can afford to fly his entire family to Tampa, or Miami, or fly to Miami for the day and then meet the family back at his palatial estae in Tampa……or

    maybe he tied the knot down there…..

    The point is, he has personal reasons for not going, and they are no one’s business. This exhibition game is a joke anyways.

  120. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    “Jeter doesn’t owe any excuses to anybody. It was his prerogative not to go to the AllStar game.”

    Particularly since he’s gone every other time he’s been elected and he usually stays during the entire game. I remember the year they crucified Alex for leaving as soon as he was taken out of the game. I don’t have a problem with Alex leaving, but I do think Jeter should get credit for always staying for the entire game.

  121. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 12th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    What I also don’t like is how the critics aren’t taking into account what he’s been through trying to get the 3,000 hit out of the way. He was very candid (something he rarely does) and admitted that it was somewhat of a burden. When you factor in that he’s coming off of an injury and he had the 3K thing on his mind, the guy deserves a break. Cut him some slack.

  122. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    So the AL doesn’t have any more starters? Why did Pineda only go one inning? So we could rush the ace CJ Wilson on?

  123. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Bottom line is that DJ is getting crap in the media bc this was a prime opportunity to push his 3,000 hit feel good story. Now, what will Joe Buck talk about for three hours???

  124. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    I think Derek can afford to fly his entire family to Tampa, or Miami, or fly to Miami for the day and then meet the family back at his palatial estae in Tampa
    ___________
    He can probably afford to move Tampa to Miami

  125. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    What?!?! Is Washington TRYING to lose this game?!?!?

  126. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Selig is an idiot for the whole “this time it counts” crap anyhow. Home field should be determined the same way it is in other sports…by best record.

  127. pat July 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Derek doesn’t need any excuse but you’ve come up with a bunch of them for him? :wink:

    He’s a big boy. He made a choice. He’ll live with the fallout from it. Build a bridge.

  128. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    “Build a bridge.”

    Lower the drawbridge?

  129. RMS July 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    All Star voting is bs. Popularity contest, that’s it. If people voted for the players who are having the best years, Jeter, Alex and a bunch of others would not have been in the running.

    ——————————————————-
    As far as Jeter being there, he could have hired a jet, flew in for the intros and flown back home. But so could have the other no-shows, except Alex who had surgery.
    Because Jeter has always handle situations with class, I think people hold him to a higher standard.

  130. Jackson July 12th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Thanks pat for posting that

  131. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Pat-

    The point is that the media treats Jeter differently than they would Saint Papi because he plays for the Yanks. Ortiz would face no fallout in a similar situation..Jeter shouldn’t have to either.

    Not sure what your bridge comment refers to….

  132. AldotheApache July 12th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Pat, good post

  133. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Selig is an idiot for the whole “this time it counts” crap anyhow. Home field should be determined the same way it is in other sports…by best record.
    pat July 12th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    —————-

    That’s no good for baseball, because there isn’t enough interleague play to make that kind of process fair. The best thing would be to go back to alternating between the leagues every other year. It’s simple and it’s fair.

  134. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Ghost-

    Good point. The old alternating years thing would be preferable to this crap, absolutely.

  135. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Motto changes to “This time it doesn’t count?”

  136. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    The HR derby was five times more exciting than this game.

  137. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    I didn’t see the HR derby. However, this game is pretty boring.

  138. pat July 12th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Sorry. Summer vacation, teens and tweens have invaded my house and I’m using their lingo now. :oops:

    Build a bridge= Build a bridge and get over it.

    Straw

    Derek has said, people don’t have to be treated the same, but they should be treated fairly. To he who much is given, much is expected.

    Derek does seem to be getting a crash course in being A-Rod the last 6 months. Maybe he’s learning something from the experience.

  139. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    :shock:

    Who would you most want at your side in a brawl?

    Winner: Sergio Mitre

  140. Against All Odds July 12th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Miggy out with an injury strained left side

  141. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    The AL team now just looks feeble. Cool.

  142. Jerkface July 12th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Jesus Montero could probably mess up that play less than Wieters

  143. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    At least David Robertson was good, right?

  144. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    I’m not comfortable with any criticisms of our AL squad because Ron Washington has forgotten a lot about baseball. :neutral:

  145. Swishalicious33 July 12th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    D-Rob was about the only highlight of this game. Ye gads :/

  146. JobaTipsHisCap July 12th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    another reason why pitching wins the game, not hitting.

  147. TheStraw July 12th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Will Russell see the field?

  148. Jerkface July 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    After the WS did anyone expect Washington to out manage Bruce Bochy?

  149. JobaTipsHisCap July 12th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Joe Buck’s voice has been like this for a while.
    Can he drink a little less?

  150. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    How many innings did Weaver and Pineda go again? 1 each?

  151. JobaTipsHisCap July 12th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    oh btw, DJ should go to there.
    They should create a new rule, like if you are elected for AS and don’t show up, you are not allowed to participate any future AS voting. Exceptions are injuries and pitching w/o enough rest.

  152. Jerkface July 12th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Thats stupid.

  153. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Christ….exactly what managing was done in this game? Making sure everyone played? The strategy is underwhelming.

  154. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Too bad Ron Washington didn’t manage this game to win.

    What a pitiful job of managing.

    Might have cost the Yankees HFA.

    :(

  155. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Someone should have clued Washington into the fact that these games matter now.

    What a loser.

    ;)

  156. CompassRosy July 12th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    hmmm ~ not to make excuses but, maybe Brandon’s mind was otherwise occupied…
    his wife is at the game, pregnant with their 3rd child and is scheduled to be induced in Seattle tomorrow.

  157. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    The game was over on Fielder’s homer. AL has had what? 1 hit since the home run inning from Gonzalez?

  158. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    F’ing Ogando and Gio Gonzalez now? Where the hell were these guys earlier?

  159. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    GB-

    Is that ever the truth.

    Why should Washington care ? Texas isn’t going anywhere this season.

    He turned back into a popularity contest.

  160. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    edit: it. sorry.

  161. UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    No Martin, Ron has it out for the Yankees. What a loser.

  162. UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Lots of Bochy’s own players not pitching. What’s up with that?

  163. UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Oh boy here comes the Beard.

  164. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Cain went Sunday night, so not eligible.

    Lincecum threw a lot of pitches on Saturday, I don’t think Bochy wants to use him.

  165. ctyankeefan. July 12th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    So has Martin been in? How many players went unused that could have been used for the AL?

  166. Jerkface July 12th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Thank god we have michael cuddyer here to hit in this clutch situation

  167. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    I have a bad feeling that NL pitching is going to make the All-Star game swing back to NL for a while…

  168. Swishalicious33 July 12th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    That was the worst ASG I’ve ever seen. What a bore.

  169. Jerkface July 12th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    I have a bad feeling that NL pitching is going to make the All-Star game swing back to NL for a while…

    The AL’s best pitchers didn’t even pitch.

  170. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Bojo-

    Well it might have helped a little if Felix, Lester, and CC were used.

    Just a tad.

    ;)

  171. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    I told you guys CJ Wilson is a deusch

  172. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Why didn’t Felix go? Is he injured?

  173. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    LGY-

    Your right. And so is Washington.

  174. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    *douche*

    Gotta make sure I spell it right.

  175. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    It’s total BS that Martin didn’t get to play. I think that’s the first time that I ever saw an elected player not start.

  176. CompassRosy July 12th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Why didn’t Felix go? Is he injured?
    =====================

    He pitched Sunday.

  177. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Thanks, Rosy!

  178. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Gio’s talents were wasted. :mad:

  179. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    CJ Wilson and Brandon League. Two guys that should not have been All Stars give up 4 runs.

    Good thing this game counts. Guys like Brandon League deciding the fate of the AL representative in the WS. Cool.

  180. UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    So the MVP trophy is a bat. What if a pitcher won??

  181. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I really like that the winner of the MVP gets a youth park built in his name in his town. Now, that counts! That is a promotion!

  182. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    My only consolation is that Cliff Lee sucked.

    :)

  183. Jerkface July 12th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    What if a pitcher won??

    They break the bat in half and weld a ball into the crack

  184. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    And now we enter what might be the very worst period that exists for pro sports… no games until Thursday.

    And don’t come back at me with the ESPYs. That’s part of the problem, not the solution.

    I wonder if I own any… books. :neutral:

  185. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    If the Yanks make it to the WS this year, we are going to hear ad nauseum about how Jeter, Sabathia, and ARod bowed out of the game, and cost the AL home field advantage. I can hardly wait. :evil:

  186. Ghostwriter July 12th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    I have never, nor will I ever, watch the ESPYS. I absolutely refuse.

  187. UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    It’s really sad how poor of a job Joe Buck does. When will FOX ever see the light.

  188. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Nick-

    If you’re desperate enough there’s stuff goin’ on at the MiLB level tomorrow I think.

    ;)

  189. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    MiLB? I usually don’t pay much attention to stuff I can’t gamble on just might check that out!

  190. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
    It’s really sad how poor of a job Joe Buck does. When will FOX ever see the light.
    ___
    Buck must have pix of Girardi and Cashman too.

  191. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
    ____
    There is always Electronic Arts MLB 2011.

  192. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    At least I learned tonight why Mitre always has a spot on this team. Nobody has the courage to tell him he’s been DFA’d.

  193. Nick in SF July 12th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    I wouldn’t mind taking a sleeping pill and waking up on Thursday, but I’m terrified that I’ll have nightmares about that HTC commercial with that little girl singing “when I got ooooolder, I will be strooooonger….” :shock: :cry: :mad:

  194. jackamir July 12th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Buck has to get off the sedatives. Too many sleeping pills.

  195. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Well…it’s that time again, so…

    “Screw you, I’m going home.”

  196. RS July 12th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    No Sabathia, Lester, Price, Verlander, Beckett, Haren, Rivera, Shields, or King Felix. And that’s just on the pitching front. The AL hardly sent their best out there, and the NL threw almost all their guns except Lincecum and Hamels.

  197. LGY July 12th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Buck has to get off the sedatives. Too many sleeping pills.

    —————–

    He developed a nerve ailment in one of his vocal cords early this year and is still recovering.

  198. JCPD July 13th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    The Brewers acquired Francisco Rodriguez and cash from the Mets for two players to be named later, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (Twitter links).

  199. UnKnown July 13th, 2011 at 12:01 am

    He developed a nerve ailment in one of his vocal cords early this year and is still recovering.

    Then he should go and recover and not announce games for the rest of the year. Unfortunately, this does not explain why he has always been horrible in years past as well.

  200. Nick in SF July 13th, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Buck has helped develop millions of other nerve ailments, I suspect.

  201. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 12:07 am

    The only nerve ailment buck has is the ones he get on every time he opens his mouth

  202. UnKnown July 13th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Brewers got K Rod on the cheap it looks like.

  203. LGY July 13th, 2011 at 12:09 am

    The only nerve ailment buck has is the ones he get on every time he opens his mouth

    ——————-

    He almost lost his voice.

  204. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Almost doesn’t count

  205. pat July 13th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    Not a fan of the beard but he does come up with some funny stuff…..

    BrianCostaWSJ Wilson on Beltran: “I heard some rumors that we’re interested in him. He’s a pretty awesome hitter. I have no qualms about it. Come on over”

    BrianCostaWSJ Wilson added, “I don’t want to be the guy that’s traded, though, okay? Let’s make sure that doesn’t happen.”

  206. LGY July 13th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Almost doesn’t count

    ———————-

    Pretty messed up.

    I’m not a Joe Buck fan, but his voice is his livelihood and he came close to losing both. Now he has been rehabbing for over 6 months to build his voice back up.

  207. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 12:35 am

    He wouldn’t have a job if his daddy hadn’t pulled strings, and the world has been punished ever since.

  208. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 12:36 am

    Buck makes the Harry Carey clan sound golden throated.

  209. LGY July 13th, 2011 at 12:37 am

    All of Robbie’s HRs from the Derby. Thing of beauty. His bat is so fast it is almost a blur in a few of his swings.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=16609400

  210. LGY July 13th, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Who cares how he got the job?

  211. West Coast Yankee Fan July 13th, 2011 at 12:50 am

    It’s amazing how upset some here get about sports media. Game announcers, writers, it’s across the board.

  212. I Am Winning July 13th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    The reason I don’t like the most winning team getting home field advantage in the playoffs is because it gives the (possible) underdogs that much less of a chance to win.

    If you have a team that wins 95 games with home field advantage, against a team with 100 wins, and if everything else is 100% equal, the competition will be that much closer.

    When I watch a game, of course other than the Yankees, I want to see a close match to the end. Giving the better team, a better advantage won’t allow that to happen as often.

    That is simply my opinion and reasoning. I know most fans will disagree because every other sport does it just one way, but that’s why I love baseball, and I watch baseball over any other sport 99% of the time.

  213. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa July 13th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Washington got severely out managed by Bochy tonight.

    just like he did in the World Series last year.

  214. Carlos July 13th, 2011 at 4:14 am

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....um=twitter

    Hughes changing the grip on his curve.

    Changing his mechanics.

  215. Rich in NJ July 13th, 2011 at 6:42 am

    Thanks, Carlos. That was what I posted after his last start. His hammer curve should be on a milk carton. I hope this works. He needs to do everything he did prior to the hamstring injury in 2007. Because until then, his stuff was not just very good, but filthy.

    Now that I have finished the entire article, I’m really psyched:

    “I’m excited about it because it’s been so long since I’ve really had that good swing-over-the-top curveball that I became accustomed to like in Double-A,” he said. “It sounds kind of weird to fiddle with something in the middle of the year, but if it can make me better, then I’m going to do it for sure.”

    As for his mechanics, Hughes said, “I just felt like over the years, basically starting from my hamstring injury [in 2007], I’ve kind of formed a couple bad habits. . . . I’m trying to correct a couple of those things.”
    mark.hale@nypost.com

  216. Benny Blanco July 13th, 2011 at 7:01 am

    Rich,

    this great news! Several of you have mentioned that phil needed to change his curve ball. Not sure what changing his leg lift will do but i’m sure most of you can explain in detail for me if you can.

  217. MG July 13th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    I’m not going to try to play pitching coach but the changes Hughes will make in his delivery should give him more leverage getting through the release point and, if it works, add a little velocity and life to his fastball. I’ve noticed his fastball hasn’t had the same life as in 2009 out of the ‘pen and in early 2010.

    As for the curveball, that’s something you have to wait and see. I never saw Hughes in the minors so don’t know what his breaking pitches looked like in AA-that’s the advantage of having a top notch pitching coach like Larry Rothschild instead of a hack like Dave Eiland on your staff.

    I’m pretty sure the Yankees decided to bring Hughes back up instead of keeping him in the minors to rehab because they wanted him working with Rothschild for every side session as well as his starts, this is more evidence of that decision.

  218. blake July 13th, 2011 at 7:31 am

    Well there goes my KRod/Beltran trade ;) nice job by Sandy to move him……big for the Mets.

    Good that Hughes is trying his old grip with his curveball because the current one he was featuring just wasn’t a big league pitch to be honest…..hope it helps him miss more bats and get some guys to chase.

    The AL really didn’t field anywhere close to their best team…..especially in starting pitching. That’s probably the worst team they have fielded in a long time and Washington managed the game horribly on top of that. They have to make this thing an exhibition again…..its ridiculous.

  219. blake July 13th, 2011 at 7:37 am

    Melvin and the Brewers are really going for it this year…..I hope they are planning on setting KRod up

  220. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 7:41 am

    This news with Hughes is a good step foreward, but, I wish they had kept it a secret. It’s going to release the Hughes hound(s) about him changing grips, strides and anything else they can think of. Any positive tinkering is always a step forward. The Hughes of the first half of 2010 and 2009 will be a welcome developement. It would take a lot of pressure off of Sabathia. Burnett and the remaining rotation. That improvement will need until late August to determine just how effective the changes are and still allow the Yanks to make a deal with an excess starter if Hughes is successful. It will give them until August 31st, to deal off a starter for any needed help elsewhere. If the results are immediate, the still have almost 3 weeks to make a big spash before the trading deadline.

  221. MG July 13th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    blake, the article doesn’t say he’s reverting to the grip he had earlier in his career, it’s kind of vague. It just says it’s more ‘customary’, that could just mean Rothschild showed him a different way to grip the curveball that is more like a normal breaking ball and Hughes had never used it before.

    Not to blow this out of proportion, but Ron Guidry learned his slider almost overnight from Sparky Lyle while sitting in the bullpen and the rest was history. I’m actually more interested in seeing how the delivery change with his leg affects his fastball, he isn’t going to dominate anyone without some additional life there and there really isn’t a reason why he can dominate, he’s shown it in the past.

  222. austinmac July 13th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    A small newspaper in Utah is reporting Hughes changed his curveballat the suggestion of noted baseball expert, MTU. Hughes is said to have extended conversations with David Robertson. Hughes, however, gives all credit to the new baseball savant, MTU.

  223. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Not sure that there was any managing to do in the All Star game. Things went fine until Fielder’s homer. After that, there was zero offense. The killer of that inning was Bautista’s rather obvious base running gaff.

  224. MG July 13th, 2011 at 7:47 am

    and GB7 is 100% on target, it will very likely take awhile for these changes to work their way from the bullpen mound to real game situations and calls for patience, something many Yankees fans have for about 3 pitches in the 1st inning.

  225. blake July 13th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    MG,

    Thanks…..I actually haven’t had a chance to read it yet…..but anyway that sounds like good news because the current grip wasn’t working.

  226. MG July 13th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    ‘ and there really isn’t a reason why he CAN’T dominate, he’s shown it in the past.’

  227. Bronx Jeers July 13th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    2 less players we have to read half-baked trade proposals about.

    Beltrans defining moment as a Met is striking out against Adam Wainright.

    Krod’s was getting arrested.

  228. blake July 13th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    True….it.may take a little while for any changes to take hold. I still believe in Hughes long term…..

  229. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    MG, Lyle said that he was sitting in the bullpen and looked at a totally defeated Guidry how was totally humiliated by Martin the day before and went over to talk to him. He showed him the basics of the slider and how he gripped it and told him to find his own grip. Lyle said it took Guidry abiut 10 minutes. Lyle called the dugout and told Martin to get Guidry in the game right them. He had something to show him.

    Martin, who had no idea of how to treat a pitching staff, still waited until the last of April to use Guidry more. He made one early start and then started reeling off shutouts. If Martin had listened, Guidry would have won 20 games in 1977.

  230. upstate kate July 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    glad the ASG is over…now can we return to real baseball??!!!

  231. blake July 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    Jeers,

    I still would rather give up 2 players to be named later for KRod than real prospects for Heath Bell or Adams……and Beltran is a good player when healthy which he is now.

  232. MG July 13th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    GB, I watched the game that Guidry started against Seattle back then, he was thrown in because whoever was supposed to pitch was hurt (I think). From memory, he loaded the bases in the 1st inning, somehow got out of it, and shut own the Mariners from then on and was the Yankees best pitcher after that.

    I can only imagine how the LoHud blog would have treated the thought of taking a guy out of the bullpen and having him throw 8+ innings with no ‘stretching out’ as Guidry did that game.

  233. Mell July 13th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Was just looking at Guidry’s page on Baseballreference.com and found myself chuckling at the 21 complete games in 1983 and how a mere 10 years later, such a number was inconceivable.

  234. 86w183 July 13th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Guidry is one of my all-time favorites. Saw him several times from various places in the Stadium. Even in the upper deck you could still see how nasty that slider was.

    Yeah, arms are really babied these days because of the amount of money that’s invested in them. Yet true work horses like CC and Doc Halladay defy convention.

  235. GreenBeret7 July 13th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    MG, the only pitcher that had Guidry’s kind of slider was Carlton. Lyle had a great one, too but, Carlton and especially Guidry threw so hard that hitters had almost zero chance. I wish that Lyle had taught that pitch to Guidry about 2 years earlier. Guidry would be in the HOF. Hard to believe that he was 26 years old when he learned the pitch.

  236. Benny Blanco July 13th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    New post>

  237. Mell July 13th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    Yet true work horses like CC and Doc Halladay defy convention

    =======================================

    I don’t know about that. None of those guys has ever 10 complete game, nevermind 21. They’re definitely workhorses by today’s standards, but not the standards of 30-35 years ago.

  238. MTU July 13th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Austin-

    That’s great news on Hughes.

    Might take him a while to get the feel for the new one.

    One more suggestion would be to minimize the use of that cutter and to work in a few more CU’s.

    For now. Simplifying things is a good way to go.

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