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Yankees organizational all-star team

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 12, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

This seemed appropriate on the day of the Major League all-star game: An all-star team of the Yankees minor leaguers who have stood through the first half of the season. This is not meant to be a collection of the team’s top prospects at each position, but rather an attempt to pick the players who are having the best seasons up to this point. The level listed is where they’ve spent most of the season, not necessarily where they are now.

Starting lineup

C - J.R. Murphy, Charleston
1B - Jorge Vazquez, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
2B - Corban Joseph, Trenton
3B - Robert Lyerly, Tampa
SS - Walter Ibarra, Tampa
LF - Ziolo Almonte, Tampa
CF - Greg Golson, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
RF - Jordan Parraz, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
DH - Kyle Roller, Charleston

Murphy, Roller and Lyerly have already been promoted this year, and although none of them is hitting quite as well since moving up a level, all three were hitting for average and power when they moved. Slade Heathcott and Justin Maxwell might have made this list had they not been injured, instead the outfield has a versatile Triple-A guys along with the system’s best outfielder in the first half. Almonte has been terrific — average, power, speed — and must be getting some consideration for a call-up of his own. Cito Culver might have been the pick at shortstop, but I have a hard time choosing a guy who’s played fewer than 25 games.

Bench

C – Jesus Montero, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
IF - Kelvin Castro, Tampa
OF – Ray Kruml, Trenton
UT – Rob Segedin, Charleston

It’s kind of a strange thing to come up with a four-man, all-star bench. I went with Montero in a close call over Austin Romine (Montero’s shown a little more power) and I went with Kruml in a close call over Ramon Flores (Kruml leads the system in stolen bases and has been a defensively versatile leadoff man for Trenton). Castro’s been surprisingly good since taking over at Tampa’s everyday second baseman, and Segedin hit .323/.396/.482 while playing third base and the outfield in Charleston. Kind of like Roller and Murphy, Segedin’s off to a slow start since his call-up to Tampa.

Rotation

SP – Dellin Betances, Trenton
SP - Nik Turley, Charleston
SP - D.J. Mitchell, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
SP - Craig Heyer, Trenton
SP – Jairo Heredia, Tampa

It’s pretty much impossible to pick just one of those Triple-A starters. David Phelps has the best strikeout and walk totals and Adam Warren has been the real workhorse, but I went with Mitchell because of the groundballs and because he just pitched back-to-back shutouts. Even with the high walk totals, I’ll stick with Betances as the ace. Plenty of snubs here (The Triple-A guys I mentioned, Banuelos in Double-A, O’Brien in Low-A and High-A). Turley was incredible with Charleston, but he’s about to miss some time.

Bullpen

Closer – Kevin Whelan, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
Setup – Ryan Flannery, Tampa
Setup - Tim Norton, Trenton
Setup – Chase Whitley, Tampa
Setup - Tommy Kahnle, Charleston
Long - George Kontos, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre
Long – Josh Romanski, Tampa

I cheated a little bit to get Romanski in there. He spent most of the year pitching out of the Tampa rotation, but he’s since moved into the Trenton bullpen, so I’m counting him as a long reliever. Norton is on the disabled list, but he could be back fairly soon. Health has always been an issue with him, and this year he’s shown what he can do when he’s actually able to pitch. Flannery is a former 47th-round pick, but this is his second straight season with terrific numbers.

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194 Responses to “Yankees organizational all-star team”

  1. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Interesting that neither Banuelos and/or Montero will be starting for Team Chad.

  2. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Betances is having a really good year.

  3. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Cue: “If Chad Jennings won’t even pick him to be a starter on the team what does that tell you about Montero’s value in the organization?!”

  4. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Shame- LOL

    :)

  5. Mell July 12th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Interesting that neither Banuelos and/or Montero will be starting for Team Chad

    ================================

    Explanation says it all. He’s basing this on the season the guys are having rather than their prospect status.

  6. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Carig had a note that said there is talk (or some language) that the Yankees view Romine as having moved past Montero.

    Anyway, I’ll still take Montero on the Yankees over the current C or DH.

  7. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Cue: “If Chad Jennings won’t even pick him to be a starter on the team what does that tell you about Montero’s value in the organization?!”

    *************

    An inauspicious first half for the LoHud appointed next lord god of the universe.

  8. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Not sure that I would take Segedin over Lyerly as a utility guy, but, pretty similar types and seasons.

  9. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    That’s a stellar team, Chad, when you have to leave Romine off of it because there’s no room.

  10. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Montero’s going to be great….for the Mariners

    #wishfulthinking

  11. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Carig had a note that said there is talk (or some language) that the Yankees view Romine as having moved past Montero. Anyway, I’ll still take Montero on the Yankees over the current C or DH.

    *****************************

    From RAB. Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus on Austin Romine.

    “Romine’s prospect stock remains flat. He’s a good hitter for average, but his aggressiveness early in the count and merely gap-to-average power leave his total line a bit empty. He’s also one of those frustrating backstops who has the tools to be a good defender, but is a so-so receiver with a slow release that wastes his strong arm. I can’t remember the last time I heard a scout get really excited about his future.”

  12. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Rich,

    Can you copy and paste that Carig note please?

  13. 108 stitches July 12th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Once Nik Turley’s hand is mended, he’ll be mentioned often. Good bloodlines being the grandson of former Yankee “Bullet Bob” Turley and one time World Series MVP in ’58.

  14. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    The last person anybody needs to worry about in the system is Montero. He’s missed time with an eye infection and twice because of just being beat up by foul balls. This back issue is hardly uncommon for ANY catcher (Martin?). The numbers will be there in the end.

  15. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Well, you know what they say guys: 10 scouts, 11 opinions…

  16. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    It would be interesting to contrast the Carig not that has the Yankees bullish on Romine with the Goldstein note that has other teams scouts bearish on Romine.

    It’s also interesting that RAB ran with the Goldstein note and made no mention of Carig.

    If that rag wants to be considered a fair and balanced media outlet, they should report all viewpoints on a topic that is anything but settled.

    I don’t like how RAB takes sides, so I don’t go there.

  17. MaineYankee July 12th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    GB7

    Maybe Theo will get Ramirez back.

    He didn’t want to trade him in the first place.

    He could hang around with Beckett and Paps to learn how to have a good attitude.

  18. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    For a kid with Montero’s potential he sure gets a significant amount of disrespect around here sometimes.

    Is he or is he not the Yankees #1 prospect and rated in the top handful of prospects in all of the minors ?

    It’s pretty amazing really.

  19. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    MTU – Considering the treatment our starting SS gets around here, is it that surprising? lol

  20. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    From RAB. Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus on Austin Romine.

    “Romine’s prospect stock remains flat. He’s a good hitter for average, but his aggressiveness early in the count and merely gap-to-average power leave his total line a bit empty. He’s also one of those frustrating backstops who has the tools to be a good defender, but is a so-so receiver with a slow release that wastes his strong arm. I can’t remember the last time I heard a scout get really excited about his future.”

    http://www.nj.com/thunder/inde.....w_new.html

    With increasing chatter that he has passed top prospect Jesus Montero in the eyes of the Yankees at the position, and will be elevated to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre following the July 31 trade deadline, Romine said he is attempting to stay in the moment.

  21. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Bret^

  22. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Now, after thinking about it (because I read that in the wee hours on my iPad), maybe that’s an attempt by someone to pump up Romine’s value for a trade?

  23. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    Shame-

    Sad but not surprising.

    ;)

  24. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    I hope Romine gets promoted to SWB after July 31 because that’ll mean Montero is in NY :)

  25. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Rich-

    There is no need to pump up Romine’s value. He’s very good.

  26. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Maine, unless Epstein can convince Loria to take some lobster, baked beans, chowder and moose steaks in return, they don’t have anybody to trade.

  27. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Interesting that neither Banuelos and/or Montero will be starting for Team Chad.
    —————————————————–
    I’d trade Montero right now for Sanchez

  28. Tom in N.J. July 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Is the SWB Yankees park a pitchers park?

  29. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    For a kid with Montero?s potential he sure gets a significant amount of disrespect around here sometimes.

    Is he or is he not the Yankees #1 prospect and rated in the top handful of prospects in all of the minors ?

    It?s pretty amazing really.
    **********

    To use a cliche, prospects are suspects. Respect is earned at the major league level

  30. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    MTU

    But value is relative. And if, for example, the word is advanced that he is viewed more highly than Montero, his value is likely enhanced.

  31. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    down the road Romine will help this team more than Montero ( if he’s still here)

  32. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Take a look around the minors and see how many young catchers measure up to Romine’s overall skills.

    I’d bet you would find many.

  33. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    edit: wouldn’t. sorry. duh.

  34. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    In that came Carig piece, there’s this quote by Nunez:

    “You learn so much up here, even when you are not playing,’’ Nunez said. “You see how all these guys prepare. I thought I knew how to get myself ready for the game, but not like that. It’s different up here. The guys here prepare to win. Not for one game. Not for one month. They prepare to win for six, seven months. They prepare to play and win until November.’’
    __

    That’s something that might really benefit Montero.

  35. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    I think either Montero or Romine could be dealt. Unlikely, but certainly possible.

  36. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Rich in NJ,

    Thanks bro.

    That’s some SWEET juxtaposition.

  37. RadioKev July 12th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    On the note about MLB officials being upset with Jeter passing on the All Star Game: DUH.

    Of course they’re upset. It’s against their interests that Jeter is missing the game. They’d want to do a whole special intro on Jeter, it could boost ratings, yada yada yada. They clearly lose something without Jeter there.

    Who cares what they think? I don’t. Jeter is coming off the DL/3,000, and it’s in his best interest, and most importantly his team’s best interest, that he takes the days off. Screw the MLB front office.

  38. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Rich-

    Don’t you think teams scouts watch these guys ?

    Who gives a crap what the Yankees say about them ? Nobody should be going by that.

    Heyman-

    Montero’s stick is as sure a bet as anyone could make. Let’s see what happens once he gets to the Majors. He may not Catch but he definitely will hit. A ton.

    The disrespect is not appropriate IMO.

  39. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    In the Goldstein’s BP piece on Romine, it sounds like those scouts are lowballing the Yankees on Romine but in the Carig piece, the Yankees have a response in defense of Romine. Cashman is getting calls on BOTH Montero and Romine. There can’t be any doubt about that. My intrigue lies in the fact that the Yankees have never leaked Romine’s name in trade talks yet Montero has been showcased multiple times.

  40. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Good thing that some of your weren’t GMs 16-18 years ago. No Bernie Williams. No Rivera, No Jeter, No Pettitte, No Posada.

  41. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    No prospect has ever performed in the big leagues before they actually had a chance to play in the big leagues.

  42. Against All Odds July 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    # joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    # West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Interesting that neither Banuelos and/or Montero will be starting for Team Chad.
    —————————————————–
    I’d trade Montero right now for Sanchez

    ———————————–

    Why would you trade him for Sanchez?

  43. MaineYankee July 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    GB7

    Lobster and moose steaks are worth more than that.

  44. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    GB,

    Bet you were heartbroken when the Yankees traded superprospect Roberto Kelly for Paul O’Neill.

    Did you cry in a bossom?

  45. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    # MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Rich-

    Don’t you think teams scouts watch these guys ?

    Who gives a crap what the Yankees say about them ? Nobody should be going by that.

    Heyman-

    Montero’s stick is as sure a bet as anyone could make. Let’s see what happens once he gets to the Majors. He may not Catch but he definitely will hit. A ton.

    The disrespect is not appropriate IMO.
    ———————————————————————
    haven’t seen him hit in the majors yet…..really nothing to go by, I should wait with my opinions

  46. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Montero’s name was “leaked” in trades for Halladay and Lee. That’s it.

  47. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Heyman-

    Montero?s stick is as sure a bet as anyone could make. Let?s see what happens once he gets to the Majors. He may not Catch but he definitely will hit. A ton.

    The disrespect is not appropriate IMO.
    *********

    I’m not arguing that. He more than likely will be at LEAST a serviceable major leaguer. I just don’t think it’s disrespectful to propose him in a trade for something like King Felix

  48. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    MTU

    Of course, but hasn’t it been repeatedly alleged (not without some basis) that a cottage industry has sprung up around (over)hyping the RS prospects in Baseball America and elsewhere, and doesn’t it seem like that meme can gain traction and boost their perceived value?

    I mean, scouts can only see so many players, and perception can be skewed; that’s why there are cross-checkers.

    So advancing the idea that certain prospects are viewed more highly by can have an effect.

  49. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    GB,

    And when the Yankees said goodbye to the highly touted Russ Davis for Tino Martinez, did you face plant in your Captain Krunch?

  50. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “No prospect has ever performed in the big leagues before they actually had a chance to play in the big leagues.”

    Words to live by.

  51. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    # GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Montero’s name was “leaked” in trades for Halladay and Lee. That’s it.
    ————————————
    I believe he was also mention in a Soria rumor ….not positive though

  52. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    Good thing that some of your weren?t GMs 16-18 years ago. No Bernie Williams. No Rivera, No Jeter, No Pettitte, No Posada.
    *******

    I’m thankful those guys weren’t traded, but it’s not cause they weren’t offered…

  53. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Kelly hadn’t been a “prospect” for more than 5 years when he was traded.

  54. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    There is no scout or professional person I know of who has ever watched Montero swing a bat that thought he wouldn’t hit.

    If anybody knows of one please feel free to provide the link.

    I’d like to see it.

    ;)

  55. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    “And when the Yankees said goodbye to the highly touted Russ Davis for Tino Martinez, did you face plant in your Captain Krunch?”

    That’s arguably a separate issue. Self-scouting is a very important function. So maybe Davis was hyped in order to trade him. Nonetheless, every franchise is better off if they have a pipeline of bona fide young talent to integrate on to their ML roster, especially a team with important aging players, like the current Yankees.

  56. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Jason Stark was the only one I heard mention Montero with Soria and the Yankees flatly denied that rumor I believe. I see no way Cashman would have offered his top prospect for a relief pitcher.

  57. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    “I believe he was also mention in a Soria rumor ….not positive though”

    Not in the MSM, because that would be a fireable offense.

  58. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Rich-

    I don’t buy that.

    No team is gonna make a trade for a guy without doing all that is necessary themselves.

    They are not gonna rely solely, or even significantly on some geeks opinion.

  59. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    “On the note about MLB officials being upset with Jeter passing on the All Star Game: DUH.”

    After seeing him in that god awful “World Baseball Classic” uni, MLB owes Jeter a lot more than Jeter owes MLB.

  60. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I really can’t believe the heat Jeter is talking for not going to the ASG……everyone complained that he made the team……now they are complaining that he’s not going after he just came off the DL……….I love how the media just can’t stand for anybody’s record to be too clean…..they have to try to poke a hole somewhere.

  61. CountryClub July 12th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I’ve seen scouts say that Montero’s hitting style is unorthodx. But that’s about it when it comes to any criticism.

  62. UnKnown July 12th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=16859431

    This is good from Curtis.

  63. BD (Boston Dave) July 12th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    “Good thing that some of your weren’t GMs 16-18 years ago. No Bernie Williams. No Rivera, No Jeter, No Pettitte, No Posada.”

    —————

    If i had a dollar for every time someone showed that the majority of this blog was over-reactive and shortsighted, I’d buy the Yankees…. and leave the decisions to the real GM.

  64. CountryClub July 12th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    *unorthodox

  65. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    # Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “No prospect has ever performed in the big leagues before they actually had a chance to play in the big leagues.”

    Words to live by.
    ————————————————-
    I went sour on this kid when he didn’t make the team out of ST, they gave him a chance to win a backup job and play because of a catcher injury….did he go back to the minors to learn how to catch better,don’t know if that happen or not…

  66. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    CC-

    If that style is unorthodox then maybe they should begin teaching it more often because it gets amazing results.

    ;)

  67. ron July 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Nobody knows how most trades end up til a decent amount of time passes.
    Just because montero might be traded,does not mean we won’t be better for it.

    It does seem the yankees have soured on montero though.

    “There was talk around Yankee Stadium against the Rays over the weekend that the Yankees want Romine in the big leagues before rosters expand Sept. 1″.

    This from an article i read.

    Imo,montero gets traded.

  68. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    # blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Jason Stark was the only one I heard mention Montero with Soria and the Yankees flatly denied that rumor I believe. I see no way Cashman would have offered his top prospect for a relief pitcher.
    ———————————–
    seen a story about didn’t know if it were true or not

  69. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    MTU

    I never said solely. To the contrary, I said the opposite.

  70. tyanksfan36 July 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Glad to see you put Walter Ibarra in there. He really is great, both defensively and offensively at short.

  71. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    “I went sour on this kid when he didn’t make the team out of ST, they gave him a chance to win a backup job and play because of a catcher injury….did he go back to the minors to learn how to catch better,don’t know if that happen or not…”

    You have said you’re on the older side. Mantle was once sent down. Did that sour you on him?

  72. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    ron July 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    Nobody knows how most trades end up til a decent amount of time passes.
    Just because montero might be traded,does not mean we won’t be better for it.

    It does seem the yankees have soured on montero though.

    “There was talk around Yankee Stadium against the Rays over the weekend that the Yankees want Romine in the big leagues before rosters expand Sept. 1?.

    This from an article i read.

    Imo,montero gets traded.

    ********

    That’s a nugget. Where did you find it? Can you please copy and paste the text and link? TIA

  73. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    “I went sour on this kid when he didn’t make the team out of ST,”

    He’s 21…..they asked him to forget about hitting and focus on caching and then penalized him when he didn’t hit. I think they want him to catch and are trying to get him ready to do that…..

  74. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    # Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    “I went sour on this kid when he didn’t make the team out of ST, they gave him a chance to win a backup job and play because of a catcher injury….did he go back to the minors to learn how to catch better,don’t know if that happen or not…”

    You have said you’re on the older side. Mantle was once sent down. Did that sour you on him?
    ———————————————-
    love the Mick…

  75. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    “I really can’t believe the heat Jeter is talking for not going to the ASG…”

    I agree, blake. It’s ridiculous.

  76. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    “love the Mick…”

    Thought so. I think if you have patience you’ll end up loving Montero too.

  77. Mell July 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I’ve seen scouts say that Montero’s hitting style is unorthodx. But that’s about it when it comes to any criticism

    ==========================

    Read some that say he hits off his front foot.

  78. ron July 12th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Bret The Hitman:

    I will try,give me a few minutes.

  79. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Ripken criticized Jeter yesterday on the radio for not going…..didn’t like rip him.or anything but said it was disappointing and that he should have gone….etc…….he’s just mad that Jeter was better than him.

  80. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    “love the Mick…”

    Thought so. I think if you have patience you’ll end up loving Montero too
    ————————————–
    could be right

  81. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    “Read some that say he hits off his front foot.”

    He does a little bit maybe……but so did Frank Thomas…..and he did a lot more so.

  82. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    # blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Ripken criticized Jeter yesterday on the radio for not going…..didn’t like rip him.or anything but said it was disappointing and that he should have gone….etc…….he’s just mad that Jeter was better than him.
    ————————————————
    wonder what jeter is doing right now

  83. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Pretty impressive string of hitting in 25 of 26 games for leadoff hitter and sterling outfield defender, Ray Kruml.

    jnorris427 Josh Norris
    Since the start of that stretch, Kruml is hitting .382/.398/.474 with three doubles, five triples, four HRs and nine RBIs. #yankees

  84. ron July 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Bret The Hitman:

    Somebody already posted this link above.

    It is at the end of the article below.

    http://www.nj.com/thunder/inde.....w_new.html

  85. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    There is an interesting dynamic at play here at the trade deadline.

    This is from rival scouts IMHO:

    “Romine’s prospect stock remains flat. He’s a good hitter for average, but his aggressiveness early in the count and merely gap-to-average power leave his total line a bit empty. He’s also one of those frustrating backstops who has the tools to be a good defender, but is a so-so receiver with a slow release that wastes his strong arm. I can’t remember the last time I heard a scout get really excited about his future.”

    These blurbs seem to be NOT from rival scouts:

    “With increasing chatter that he has passed top prospect Jesus Montero in the eyes of the Yankees at the position, and will be elevated to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre following the July 31 trade deadline, Romine said he is attempting to stay in the moment.”

    “There was talk around Yankee Stadium against the Rays over the weekend that the Yankees want Romine in the big leagues before rosters expand Sept. 1?”

    It seems on the surface that other teams want Romine and the Yankees aren’t anxious to sell at current prices.

    There are definitely calls on Romine.

    Now let’s see if we hear leaks.

  86. blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Probably something more fun than me.

  87. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    I really can?t believe the heat Jeter is talking for not going to the ASG

    ***********************

    I know…it’s totally ridiculous.

  88. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    What chance cdid Montero have with 40 at bats? He hit .250, which was better than the other catchers in camp. Unless you count Cervelli’s 3-5. Montero also threw out more base stealers in camp than the rest combined.

  89. austinmac July 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Rich,

    So you are comparing Montero and Mantle. At 19 when Mantle was sent down, he had five tools as good as anyone. Montero has two. Let’s wait to anoint him, and let him convince the team he has a position.

    Do you think the Yankees should keep both Romine and Montero, and if so, what will they do with them both?

  90. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    The Yankees have a lot of talent in their organization, especially at the catcher and pitcher positions. They can’t all play in the Bronx.

  91. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Not to change the subject, but to change the subject…there was a lot of talk a week or so ago about CJ Wilson being a Yankee next year. What his contract demands would be, etc…

    The general feeling was that he would want an AJ Burnett/John Lackey type deal and rightfully so based on his performance as a starter over these last two years. But just as correctly there was some fear about giving a 5 or 6 year deal to a 31/32 year old pitcher with only two seasons as a starter under his belt.

    To that end I propose the following:

    Yankees trade Hector Noesi and Eduardo Nunez to the Mets for Johan Santana

    of course this comes with the caveat that Santana comes back this season and proves healthy

    Why the Mets would do this: Taking the easy road first. Money. The Mets need to get their payroll down to around $100 mil and with Boras taking over as K-Rod’s agent the odds of them being able to trade him have gone down. Assuming they can’t retain Reyes, Nunez would easily leapfrog Ruben Tejada for the starting SS job and Noesi could go right into their rotation.

    Why the Yankees would do this: Obviously the AAV of Johan’s contract is greater than that they would have to pay to CJ Wilson, but the contract is only 2 more years (with a club option for 2014). Both players are about the same age so rather than pay Wilson until he’s 36/37 you can pay Johan until he’s 35.

    As for what the Yankees are giving up – I like Eduardo, but for the next couple of years he’s going to be a utility player here – the Yankees can find other utility players. I like Noesi too, but just as the Yankees plucked Noesi from AAA this year they could do the same next year with a guy like Warren or Phelps or Mitchell.

    Johan’s got a full no-trade clause; my guess is that to get him to waive it the Yankees would have to pick up the 2014 option. So that’s about $75 mil over 3 years, but $15 mil of that is deffered, so really you’re talking about an AAV of $20 mil which is only $3-5 mil more per year than what we would expect Wilson to command.

    You would then be looking at a rotation of:

    CC
    Johan
    AJ
    Hughes
    Nova/Colon (I assume that if BC finishes strong the Yankees will invite him back on a 1 year deal)

    Again, this is all predicated upon Johan showing he’s healthy. It’s a steal for the Yankees because there aren’t many teams out there that could phathom taking on Santana’s contract. Yankees can.

  92. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Mac, put Montero in NY at the end of the month, move Romine to Scranton and use Martin to buy time for both kids until next summer and move Romine to NY to share duties with Montero. Romine is extremely athletic and needs to get time at the 4 corners, much like they are doing with Murphy.

  93. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Chip,

    Much rather focus on Gio Gonzalez at the 2nd lefty behind CC.

    We could include young pitching (Nova? Hughes?) to keep Beane happy and his young staff in tact while bolstering his punchless offense with center-offense bats like Montero, Nunez or Gardner.

  94. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Water cooler talk- Soria to the Yankees ( deja vu)
    July 8, 2011
    By Greg Schaum

  95. Against All Odds July 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    “I went sour on this kid when he didn’t make the team out of ST,”

    ————————————————-

    It’s ST the place where role players bat .340 and stars can’t bat their weight

  96. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    I just heard that the Yankees gifts to Christian Lopez are taxable to the figure of $14, 000.00. That’s ridiculous, but since it’s the case, it’s really unfair that a gift could cost this kid big time. The Yankees need to take care of the taxes for him……or he should refuse the rest of the gifts.

  97. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    The Yankees have a lot of talent in their organization, especially at the catcher and pitcher positions. They can’t all play in the Bronx.

    ——————————-

    and let’s not forget that in addition to the prospects the starting catcher for the Yankees is a 28-year old All Star that the pitchers love for his skills behind the plate.

  98. MTU July 12th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    The argument is not about wether or not prospects will be traded or not but over which ones.

    According to SJ, who has much knowledge on the inner workings of the Yankees, the Yankees self-scout better than just about anyone.

    If you believe that is true then you have to believe the Yankees know who to keep and who to trade, and when.

    That’s my POV with respect to Montero and Romine as well as their young arms.

  99. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    # GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    What chance cdid Montero have with 40 at bats? He hit .250, which was better than the other catchers in camp. Unless you count Cervelli’s 3-5. Montero also threw out more base stealers in camp than the rest combined.
    ————————————————————–
    so why didn’t he make the team

  100. CountryClub July 12th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Betsy,

    He wont pay a dime of those taxes. It’ll be taken cared of….and we wont hear anything about it.

  101. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    austinmac July 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Rich,

    So you are comparing Montero and Mantle. At 19 when Mantle was sent down, he had five tools as good as anyone. Montero has two. Let’s wait to anoint him, and let him convince the team he has a position.

    Do you think the Yankees should keep both Romine and Montero, and if so, what will they do with them both?
    __

    No, I am pointing out that patience is a virtue.

    I would keep both until they see whether or not Montero can catch 80 games a year.

  102. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    Chip,

    Much rather focus on Gio Gonzalez at the 2nd lefty behind CC.

    We could include young pitching (Nova? Hughes?) to keep Beane happy and his young staff in tact while bolstering his punchless offense with center-offense bats like Montero, Nunez or Gardner.

    —————-

    Why give up more for a worse pitcher? Gio’s a nice young pitcher but he’s clearly benefited by playing in Oakland and has been terrible through his short career against the AL East teams.

  103. ron July 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    I have no problem whatsoever trading montero,if it is for the right player(s).

    It is about making the team better.

    People here say look what would have happened if we traded jeter,mo,posada,pettitte but don’t realize a lot of that was luck.

    Some of them if not all were almost traded on more than one occasion.

    Also,we traded kennedy + for granderson & how much better would we be if we signed berkman???Wasn’t he a trade?

    I have a very strong feeling montero gets traded.

    I just hope we get a nice return.If cashman can’t get a pitcher,i think it is for a lf or rf.

    Does cashman combine a montero + banuelos or betances & more & shoot for the moon?

    I also think romine replaces cervelli,after some time in AAA.

  104. austinmac July 12th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    GB,

    I have no problems in your catcher plan, but I do wonder if the Yankees fear him harming his value. Is it possible Romine will be the first up?

  105. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    An interesting thought, but, not Montero interesting.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....radar.html

  106. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    true I have to believe if martin stays healthy he’s going to be around for a while……so Romine and Montero will have to split DH and backup catcher…

  107. pat July 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    I don’t care if Derek went to the ASG or not but he should have stuck with the calf injury or just said personal reasons instead of physcially and emotionally exhausted.

  108. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Chad–

    Did you leave Kei Igawa off the team due to oversight, or do you just have a bias against no-talent pitchers? He is a lefty, you know…

  109. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    “true I have to believe if martin stays healthy he’s going to be around for a while……”

    As a BUC? He can’t hit.

  110. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Mac, the only ones that think Montero’s value is being harmed are the scouts and GMs that believe they can snooker Cashman to include him in a deal for 2nd rate returns.

  111. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Ripken should keep quiet – he sounds ridiculous. Jeter has represented MLB very well throughout his career – he doesn’t owe them anything at this point. Maybe Cal owed it to his teammates to take a rest now and then or instead of pushing himself when he was exhausted or hurt because of “the streak”. Remember ? It was 24 cabs and 1 – Cal being the 1 in the separate cab. He’s not a saint either when it comes to how he handles things.

  112. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    CountryClub, I hope not. Jeter is also being ripped on other boards for not paying Lopez the $$$ to take care of his student loans………

  113. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    pat July 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    I don?t care if Derek went to the ASG or not but he should have stuck with the calf injury or just said personal reasons instead of physcially and emotionally exhausted.

    *********************

    pat-did that exhausted line come from Derek himself? I was under the impression someone else had said it.

  114. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    Chad?

    Did you leave Kei Igawa off the team due to oversight, or do you just have a bias against no-talent pitchers? He is a lefty, you know?

    **************************

    8)

  115. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    If you could line up these 2 trades would you pull the trigger?

    #1 Brett Gardner + toss-in (Andrew Brackman) for Joakim Soria

    #2 Phil Hughes straight up for Colby Rasmus with Ivan Nova reclaiming his spot in the rotation.

    In this scenario, the Yankees avoid the market for staring pitchers altogether because the prices are too high.

    Instead they upgrade the offense, the bullpen and arguably improve the rotation from within by bringing Ivan Nova back into the fold.

  116. Pville July 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    I love all of the GMs on this blog. It seems like just yesterday that many of them wanted to trade Cano for anything and bring in Orlando Hudson to play 2nd base.

  117. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    BryanHoch @CGrand14 was miked up for last night’s #HRDerby at Chase Field: http://atmlb.com/rcdNJk #Yankees

  118. 4time July 12th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Bret,

    Hughes for Rasmus, not even close. As you said, one underachiever for another. Hughes gets to work with Duncan, KLong gets to work with Rasmus. Win win for both sides.

    Hughes for Gio would be amazing, but we all know that isn’t happening.

  119. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    I have no problem with Jeter saying he’s exhausted……..

  120. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    4time,

    My question is, if you could get Rasmus for Hughes straight up, would you turn around and try to spin Gardner+ for Joakim Soria?

    In this scenario, you upgrade the OF, the bullpen and reward Nova with his starting spot in the rotation.

    If the Yankees can’t upgrade the rotation, they should do whatever they can to improve the rest of the roster IMHO.

  121. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    AndrewMarchand Yanks team Prez rips MLB official for having no “guts” for ripping Jeter. http://es.pn/r727x2

  122. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Out of curiousity – would supporters of a proposed Hughes for Rasmus trade also have been in favor of signing Carl Crawford as a FA?

  123. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    # Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    If you could line up these 2 trades would you pull the trigger?

    #1 Brett Gardner + toss-in (Andrew Brackman) for Joakim Soria

    #2 Phil Hughes straight up for Colby Rasmus with Ivan Nova reclaiming his spot in the rotation.

    In this scenario, the Yankees avoid the market for staring pitchers altogether because the prices are too high.

    Instead they upgrade the offense, the bullpen and arguably improve the rotation from within by bringing Ivan Nova back into the fold.
    ——————————————————————–
    yes

  124. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    BryanHoch Just got an e-mail saying Cano shouldn’t have used his dad b/c he knows him too well & the pitches were too good. ~ Isn’t that the point?

  125. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    The All-Star Fab Four:

    russellmartin55 Ready for the #ASG @RobinsonCano @cgrand14 @DRob30 #Yankees

  126. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Just saw the 1 November, 2001 Jeter homer. Hard to believe how young he looked and that he was only 6 years old at that time. That’s 6 years old in Yankee years.

  127. spidanyc July 12th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    No need for Colby Rasmus….
    Swisher, David Phelps and Noesi for Justin Upton.
    Russell Martin, Eduardo Nunez, Corban Joseph, Brandon Laird, Nova, Brackman and DJ Mitchell for King Felix.

    We would have the best defensive outfield in baseball with Gardner, Grandy and Upton.
    Montero would be our fulltime catcher.
    CC and King Felix leading the rotation.

  128. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    If you could line up these 2 trades would you pull the trigger?

    #1 Brett Gardner + toss-in (Andrew Brackman) for Joakim Soria

    #2 Phil Hughes straight up for Colby Rasmus with Ivan Nova reclaiming his spot in the rotation.

    In this scenario, the Yankees avoid the market for staring pitchers altogether because the prices are too high.

    Instead they upgrade the offense, the bullpen and arguably improve the rotation from within by bringing Ivan Nova back into the fold.

    ——————

    No.

    1. With Rivera and Soriano what possible need is there for Soria right now?

    2. Why would St. Louis deal Rasmus for Hughes?

  129. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    I don’t think Jeter ever said that.. I think it was reported that he did with no source or direct quotes.

    And even if he was, who gives a s***? Again, people, the World Baseball Classic!!! If its ever said Jeter hasn’t done enough for MLB, just think of the Classic.

  130. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    BryanHoch Yankees.com: Jeter wins AL Player of the Week honors http://atmlb.com/rb1PMh

  131. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    An MLB official ripped Jeter? LOL Moron. Good for the Yanks for responding to that clown

  132. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    AndrewMarchand Just filed: Yanks Prez Levine said he contacted top MLB officials and they assured him they are fine with Jeter’s no show.

    AndrewMarchand Commish will probably say similar thing soon, I bet. He would have liked Jeter to be here, but understands.

  133. Yanks78 July 12th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    ‘m surprised by how much Jeter is getting hammered. If you’ve read the quotes from players, coaches, etc. a lot of passive-aggressiveness obviously aimed towards Jeter, hiding behind the “if you get voted, you should show up, everyone else who wasn’t playing showed up, etc.”. Obviously Jeter’s name wasn’t invoked, but we all know who those people were referring to. At least guys like Beltran and Berkman were honest about their feelings and put their names to it. And of course, ESPN/MLBN and the writers have been hammering him non-stop, mostly not even mentioning him by name, but knowing the intent.

    The only players who didn’t show up to the ASG were Yankees and Chipper Jones (who was getting surgery). So obviously all the comments from the guys are aimed at the Yankees players, specifically Jeter.

  134. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    I don?t think Jeter ever said that.. I think it was reported that he did with no source or direct quotes.

    ************************

    Shame, that’s what I thought.

    And don’t get me started on the WBC. ;)

  135. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    BryanHoch Just got an e-mail saying Cano shouldn’t have used his dad b/c he knows him too well & the pitches were too good. ~ Isn’t that the point?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I’ve been waiting for something like that, Erin. The only shock was that it took almost 19 hours to be made.

  136. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Chip,

    1. Soriano is a wild card with his injury history and attitude

    2. Because the Cards need a starting pitcher and have surplus OF. Furthermore, perhaps their scouts and player evaluators think there’s a better chance they can fix Hughes than Rasmus. Maybe a change of organization is in order for both players. The Yankees have had lots of time to work with Hughes – not much sustained success.

  137. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    The NY Post reported on Wednesday that the Royals have scouts watching several Yankees catching prospects. Let’s take a look at that list of Yankee backstops and also take a look at other pieces that could be involved.

  138. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    I?ve been waiting for something like that, Erin. The only shock was that it took almost 19 hours to be made.

    ************************

    LOL….yeah, people can be very stupid.

  139. pat July 12th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Erin

    Just looked. It’s a quote and attributed to “someone close to Derek”.

    Russell Martin is quoted as saying, “He just got 3,000. Leave him alone, man. Seriously. He’s coming off the DL. He played a bunch of games. He deserves a little rest (to) get right. I think everybody should respect that.”

  140. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    “I‘m surprised by how much Jeter is getting hammered. If you’ve read the quotes from players, coaches, etc. a lot of passive-aggressiveness obviously aimed towards Jeter, ”

    If someone wants to diss Jeter, there are areas of contention. The ASG isn’t one of them.

  141. blake July 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    So Cano should have got someone who threw worse BP? How about Ortiz?

  142. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Joeman,

    The Royals are looking to move Joakim Soria. They will probably want a package centered on Montero. I’d want to center a package on Gardner instead and try to fill his spot in LF with Rasmus.

    Gardner + JR Murphy maybe?

  143. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    The NY Post reported on Wednesday that the Royals have scouts watching several Yankees catching prospects. Let’s take a look at that list of Yankee backstops and also take a look at other pieces that could be involved.
    —————————————————————–
    didn’t read this but was suppose to be recent

  144. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    pat-thanks for looking.

    Love Martin’s quote. :)

  145. Yanks78 July 12th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    I doubt STL would move Rasmus, even as low as his stock has dropped the last couple of years, for Hughes.

    They should try and get Niemenn or someone from TB.

    I like the idea though of Hughes for a youngish position player or pitcher. Unfortunately, his value singularly is probably minimal so he needs to be combined with others.

  146. pat July 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal 79 of 84 players named to #ASGteams in Phoenix. A-Rod, Chipper absent due to surgeries. #Yankees’ CC, Jeter, Rivera other no-shows. #MLB

  147. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    “a lot of passive-aggressiveness obviously aimed towards Jeter”

    Well, these guys did vote him in as one of the most overrated talents in the game.. I’m not shocked.

  148. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Day 3 of no new news on Intl FA signings…..When will it end? And where are the Yankees?!?!

  149. blake July 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Do folks realize that Jeter just came off the DL? With an injury that can be reaggrevated fairly easily……..I mean seriously.

  150. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Yanks78,

    I’d give them Hughes + Cervelli for Rasmus. Yadier Molina is a free agent.

  151. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Hughes’ is value is at an all-time low. Trading him now, given all they have invested, is kind of silly.

  152. Shame Spencer July 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    I think the other players are just mad because they know 3 days off for Mo can carry him into December if he needed it to.

  153. blake July 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    There is literally no way Cashman would trade Montero for a relief pitcher…..it would go against everything he’s been trying to build.

  154. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    In answer to the criticism Jeter is receiving on not being at the ASG, he should blast fax/e-mail a photo of Minka and himself on a beach somewhere with the caption: “Really? You can’t figure it out?”

  155. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Pville July 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    I love all of the GMs on this blog. It seems like just yesterday that many of them wanted to trade Cano for anything.

    *******************

    Only the dummies did so.

  156. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    blake-and if he did go and reinjure the calf, he would have gotten grief for playing after just having come off the DL.

  157. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    Hughes? is value is at an all-time low. Trading him now, given all they have invested, is kind of silly.
    *************

    Finally, a voice of reason

  158. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Rasmus’ value is at an all-time low as well AND you have Nova knocking on the doorstep.

    Like I said though, I wouldn’t bring in Rasmus unless I could spin Gardner+ for someone like Joakim Soria.

    I don’t trust Rafael Soriano at this point.

    And I like the thought of Joakim closing when Mo retires and Robertson being the EIG.

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock July 12th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
    Now, after thinking about it (because I read that in the wee hours on my iPad), maybe that’s an attempt by someone to pump up Romine’s value for a trade?
    ///

    I hope, hope, hope this is the case.

    Cashman will tarnish his tenure as GM forever if he trades Montero. It will be considered The Big Mistake, just as Cano to Arizona would have been if the Diamondbacks had agreed.

    This needs to be filed under “just not doing it.”

    They’d be out of their minds.

  160. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Jeter does have some responsibility to the fans (even the ones that rip him for seeking the spotlight and being over rated), but, he has a bigger responsibility to his team mates and the organization to be ready to run the grueling dog days into October.

  161. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    AndrewMarchand @RobinsonCano & @GordonEdes join me for the special All-Star edition of Bombers Beat. http://t.co/pM6TY4T

  162. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    “blake-and if he did go and reinjure the calf, he would have gotten grief for playing after just having come off the DL.”

    A lot of these critics aren’t saying he should play, only that he should show up. But the game has become a joke, so who cares?

  163. blake July 12th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Erin,

    No way to win…..folks that want him to fly cross country to tip his cap for 5 minutes need to get a life. If you’re not playing then there is no sense flying all the way to Arizona when you need to be resting for the 2nd half……he did what’s best for the Yankees and that’s all I and the people paying him care about.

  164. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    1. I don’t believe Rasmus will be traded. I think his name is going to join the ranks of Matt Kemp and Robbie Cano who a couple of years ago were hot rumors but never went anywhere. If he were to be traded, I think it would take a lot more than Hughes to do it.

    2. If you want a hypothetical Rasmus trade I’ll give you one: Austin Jackson and Rick Porcello for Rasmus.

    3. The deal I would try to get in on is this Mathis for Garret Jones swap. I like Jones as a nice LH bat for the bench – similar to what Chavez was bringing to the club. Offer them Cervelli and Ramiro Pena for Jones.

  165. austinmac July 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    “Why would the Cards trade Rasmus for Hughes?”

    Why wouldn’t they? I believe they would jump all over that, but the Yankees are not about to do that. They need Hughes to pitch and pitch well.

  166. blake July 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    “Jeter does have some responsibility to the fans (even the ones that rip him for seeking the spotlight and being over rated), but, he has a bigger responsibility to his team mates and the organization to be ready to run the grueling dog days into October.”

    This.

  167. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Rich, they wouldn’t get anything for him anyway………I think the ” how much they’ve invested in him” works in regards to the rotation (unless they think he’s not going to be here long-term, in which case when they reach that point, I think they’ll put him in the pen). I don’t think it works with regards to potential trades. He just doesn’t offer up any value to a team at this point…….I’m not sure most teams think he has such great upside and that’s really his only selling point now.

  168. J. Alfred Prufrock July 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    I hope Romine gets promoted to SWB after July 31 because that’ll mean Montero is in NY
    ////

    Amen.

  169. Bronx Jeers July 12th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    “I‘m surprised by how much Jeter is getting hammered. If you’ve read the quotes from players, coaches, etc. a lot of passive-aggressiveness obviously aimed towards Jeter, hiding behind the “if you get voted, you should show up, everyone else who wasn’t playing showed up, etc.”

    —————————————————————————————————————————————

    Like that turd Berkman. Whatever happened to union solidarity? All these guys should just keep their mouth shut and thank Derek for being the face of MLB while players like Berkman earn their millions in relative obscurity.

  170. Betsy July 12th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    The players get why Jeter isn’t there, but then many are friends of his and many grew up idolizing him.

  171. pat July 12th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    I get that the instinct is to defend and give the benefit on the doubt but let’s not get carried away.

    No one is beating him up and those questioning his actions(inactions) are doing so about his non-attendance not his non-play.

  172. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    Chip,

    1. Soriano is a wild card with his injury history and attitude

    2. Because the Cards need a starting pitcher and have surplus OF. Furthermore, perhaps their scouts and player evaluators think there’s a better chance they can fix Hughes than Rasmus. Maybe a change of organization is in order for both players. The Yankees have had lots of time to work with Hughes – not much sustained success.

    ———————–

    Yes but Cashman didn’t want to pay a high priced reliever to not close – you think he wants to pay two? Plus, unless I’m mistaken, the Yankees are still on Soria’s NT list.

    I don’t see why the Cards would take on a player they feel needs fixing for Rasmus a player everyone acknowledges just needs to get the heck away from LaRussa.

  173. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    blake July 12th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    I hope Romine gets promoted to SWB after July 31 because that’ll mean Montero is in NY
    ////

    Amen.

    ————-

    Or it will just mean that Montero is DHing in AAA.

  174. austinmac July 12th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    GB,

    I doubt it is just scouts and GMs anxious to shaft the Yankees that question Montero’s catching and, therefore, value. I will believe that it is still an issue until someone outside the Yankee organization(who have all the reason to hype)says it is not. I can’t recall ever hearing theat he is MLB ready from nyone not named Cashman, and frankly, what else can he say?

    Understand, I fervently would love 15 more years of an strong hitting catcher. I simply say, I don’t know if he can be that guy or not.

  175. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Yes but Cashman didn?t want to pay a high priced reliever to not close ? you think he wants to pay two? Plus, unless I?m mistaken, the Yankees are still on Soria?s NT list.

    I don?t see why the Cards would take on a player they feel needs fixing for Rasmus a player everyone acknowledges just needs to get the heck away from LaRussa.
    **********

    The Yankees are on Soria’s NT for leverage – i.e. lucrative contract extension. But that only makes a trade less likely. Can you imagine a team, even the Yankees, committing more than $40mil to three relief pitchers? Even if their names are River, Soriano, and Soria?

  176. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    mark this down there will be a Prince in the house in 2012….

  177. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    err Rivera*

  178. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    Yes but Cashman didn?t want to pay a high priced reliever to not close ? you think he wants to pay two? Plus, unless I?m mistaken, the Yankees are still on Soria?s NT list.

    I don?t see why the Cards would take on a player they feel needs fixing for Rasmus a player everyone acknowledges just needs to get the heck away from LaRussa.
    **********

    The Yankees are on Soria’s NT for leverage – i.e. lucrative contract extension. But that only makes a trade less likely. Can you imagine a team, even the Yankees, committing more than $40mil to three relief pitchers? Even if their names are River, Soriano, and Soria?

    ———–

    No I cannot.

  179. heyman_sux July 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    mark this down there will be a Prince in the house in 2012?.
    *******

    I’ve gotta hear this one

  180. J. Alfred Prufrock July 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    .I love how the media just can’t stand for anybody’s record to be too clean…..they have to try to poke a hole somewhere.
    ///

    Not just the media. There are two dolts here who dedicate their lives to smoke & mirrors & have even tried to get people here to buy that he’s a lousy teammate, selfish, etc. Of course, no one of any intelligence takes their trash seriously.

  181. Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    I think Romine in AAA means Montero in NY or Montero traded.

    He’s only 21. They’re not going to sink his catching value so prematurely by DH’ing him in AAA.

  182. West Coast Yankee Fan July 12th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Two class guys’ comments on Jeter:

    “I saw the first two on TV and then went out to get ready for our game that day,” said Verlander. “I heard he got five hits and the game-winner, and that’s just symbolism for his career. The bigger the stage, the better he’s always been. There aren’t many like him.”

    “Very Jeter-like; he always rises to the occasion and can make a moment like 3,000 hits even bigger,” Tulowitzki said. “I was excited for him. Even watching on TV, you felt the buzz at the stadium. It’s something I’ll never forget.”

  183. Bronx Jeers July 12th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    mark this down there will be a Prince in the house in 2012?.

    ——————————————————————-

    A concert or are William and Kate planning a visit?

  184. Rich in NJ July 12th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    joeman is Francesa????????????

  185. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    This year’s trade deadline will come and go quietly for the Yankees.

    If they do anything it will be to tweak the bench a little – maybe add a LH bat who can play a few different spots like the role Chavez had before he went down. Maybe they add another OF with a little more game than Dickerson.

    I highly doubt this even rates as highly as last year’s Berkman, Kearns, Wood pickups.

  186. Chip July 12th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    I think Romine in AAA means Montero in NY or Montero traded.

    He’s only 21. They’re not going to sink his catching value so prematurely by DH’ing him in AAA.

    —————–

    Maybe he and Romine split time; DH Montero a couple of days while Romine is catching and then switch. Right now the DH there is who – Terry Tiffee? Not like he can’t be cut.

  187. BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    mark this down there will be a Prince in the house in 2012?
    ____
    Is he still performing?

  188. blake July 12th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Wish Tulo hadn’t signed that extension……I wanted him to take over for Jeter.

  189. GreenBeret7 July 12th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    austinmac July 12th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    GB,

    I doubt it is just scouts and GMs anxious to shaft the Yankees that question Montero’s catching and, therefore, value. I will believe that it is still an issue until someone outside the Yankee organization(who have all the reason to hype)says it is not. I can’t recall ever hearing theat he is MLB ready from nyone not named Cashman, and frankly, what else can he say?

    Understand, I fervently would love 15 more years of an strong hitting catcher. I simply say, I don’t know if he can be that guy or not.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Frankie Piliere, a one-time scout for the Rangers and writer for Fox already has. He said that Montero’s catching skills will rival that of Posada and Piazza, but, that bat plays anywhere. He said that Montero is no worse than average. Either Axia or Norris talked to some of the pitchers that grew up in the organization with montero (DJ Mitchell and Phelps, I believe, and said that his ability to did balls out of the dirt, his throwing and more importantly, his game calling from last year to this year is night and day, and has grown like that at every level of advancement.

  190. G. Love July 12th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I think the Rasmus and Garza trade rumors were slipped to get the Yankees to make a ridiculous offer for either of them. Both of the rumors were specific to AL East rivals. That smells, to me, like they are baiting the Yankees.

    I could see St. Louis and Chicago both look to get a huge package from the Yankees for those guys. It would start with Montero without a doubt, but I’m sure Cashman could talk them off of there and offer Nova, Noesi, Romine, Nunez, etc.

    That said, I expect the Yankees to sit tight. They need to see if they need to acquire either a full time DH to replace Jorge or perhaps a full time 3b to replace Arod and then move Arod to DH for the rest of the season. They also need to decide if they want to upgrade Andruw Jones or not.

    They’ll play to the deadline and assess and then make a move.

    Those 2 players being linked in reports to the Red Sox and Rays though tell me that St. Louis and Chicago both like what the Yankees have.

  191. Mell July 12th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    I think the Rasmus and Garza trade rumors were slipped to get the Yankees to make a ridiculous offer for either of them.

    =============================

    Yankees have no need for Rasmus and probably don’t give a rat’s rump if he goes to the Rays as he is not a difference maker. Garza? That could be a different story.

  192. joeman July 12th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    # BoJo July 12th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    joeman July 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    mark this down there will be a Prince in the house in 2012?
    ____
    Is he still performing?
    —————————————–
    new that would pop up

  193. Yankee Trader July 12th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    The Royals have some pieces that could help the Yankees in LF and the bullpen.
    Alex Gordon and bullpen arms like rookies Aaron Crow and Greg Holland.

    Chip- Agree that maybe the Yankees do mostly tweaking-Maybe Reed Johnson to replace Jones. Jeff Keppinger or Omar Infante to replace Pena.
    I still feel they need one more quality reliever as I’m not confident in the return to form and health of the 2010 version of Soriano.

  194. Erin July 12th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    New Post- Yankees at the break: Catcher

    :arrow:

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