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Jeter sits for series finale

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 17, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

UPDATE, 10:05 a.m.: Chris Dickerson just walked in. No word on a move.

Brett Gardner LF
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada 1B
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez SS
Ramiro Pena 3B

 
 

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165 Responses to “Jeter sits for series finale”

  1. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    GB-

    Well thank you for your respected input.

    No I would not trade the potential next Posada/Piazza, Whitey-minus the spitball-Ford or JR Richard for , two of those three for King Felix Hernandez.

  2. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Is Montero the next possible Piazza? Other?
    Is Banuelos the next possible great lefty Guidry? Other
    Is Betances the right handed tall version of the next CC? Other?

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    1. Montero: Don’t know – those are some lofty comparison – excited about Montero – but not going to predict he is generational as some others until he is promoted and has some seasons under his belt. Excited – but waiting to see what he can do at the mlb level – when he finally gets the chance.

    2. Banuelos: Like the Teddy Higuera comparison more – plus Guidry relied on the killer slider – Banuelos arsenal more filled with fb, curveball, and change – along with Teddy – they both are small lefties from Mexico with similar types of dynamics

    3. Betances: Do not see it – only similarity is the height – different types of pitchers – Sabathia with a slider, fb, change – Betances w/ a curve put away – let alone one is a righty and the other a lefty. Better possible comparison to Betances (IF HE REACHES HIS POTENTIAL AND CEILING) is Josh Johnson

  3. yankeefeminista July 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Interesting lineup. Too bad I will be at the Manuelito game. Good idea to get Jeter and Tex off the turf for a game.

    MTU, next year Kemp is in arb 3, FA in 2013 so we will see what happens with that. Also, in Romine you are talking about a nice player, but a player whose SLUG is under .400, .OPS under 800 and who doesn’t have much pop at all vs. righties. He doesn’t in any way shape or form have Montero’s monster bat.

    Heading off to see Manny B. pitch, go Huuuuughes! Go Yanks!

  4. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Villanueva is an offspeed pitcher. Hopefully Tex, Swisher and Posada all batting from the left sde don’t strike out on the inside change-up that usually has them swinging at air.

  5. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Yankees conservatism strikes again – allow only players who have had a cup of tea play in the majors like Pena and Cervelli – and not promote any better talent like Montero and even Laird b/c they do not have mlb experience. How are you supposed to have mlb experience if you do not get the chance? It is like the old saying in trying to get your first job – employer looking for work experience – but how do you show work experience if this is your first job you are applying for? Getting tired of it.

  6. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Stoneburner-

    Thanks for your input, which validates my point, that I’d have to be overwhelmed to include two of them in a single trade.

  7. yankeefeminista July 17th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Stoneburner, QFT. Later.

  8. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    YF-

    Enjoy the game. Hope he makes the 6th inning for a change.

    :)

  9. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    YT-

    If Felix doesn’t overwhelm you no one would.

    ;)

  10. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:10 am
    Stoneburner-

    Thanks for your input, which validates my point, that I’d have to be overwhelmed to include two of them in a single trade.

    **************

    For sure – two weeks until the trade deadline – I love this time of year b/c I like hearing rumors and just thinking about possibilities – would I make this trade for that guy – so glad July 31 is on a Sunday – no work (hopefully no work to bring home on the weekend)!!!

  11. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Trader, that’s only the way I see it if I were the Yankee GM. If I’m the Mariners GM, I see it as maybe a Russell Martin, Jason Vargas and Jon Rauch with a fastball, but, to do you a favor, I suppose I could be forced to take ‘em on and worry about the fans later.

    I’m only looking at potential and their styles, so, it’s not that I’m saying this is who they will be.

  12. yankeefeminista July 17th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Thanks, MTU, here’s hoping. :)

  13. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    yankeefeminista July 17th, 2011 at 10:10 am
    Stoneburner, QFT. Later.

    **************

    Look forward to your take on Manny. . . Hope he has multiple innings like his performance in the AA All Star game!!!

  14. RadioKev July 17th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    I probably can’t catch todays game, bummer. Looking forward to hearing about Hughes’ start.

  15. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Silly Sox beat writers – usually Cafardo is decent (much better than Bill Madden) – but he has an article saying Sox should go after Jose Reyes in a . . .wait for it . . . a TRADE! First, with what? What prospects – seriously. He jokingly says Jose Igelsias (aka Rey Ordonez v. 2.0) could centerpiece the deal. He does know that Sandy Alderson did not work under Theo like his stooge out in San Diego. Sorry Boston fans – Jed Hoyer is not walking through that door with Jose Reyes. Second – the fact that they are now already souring on Peter Gammons’ generational SS prospect Iglesias b/c he is hitting like Cervelli in AAA is comical and about time. Oh and Drake Britton has been a disaster this season. Looks like the Sox finally have their Sean Henn. End rant.

  16. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    YT-

    If Felix doesn’t overwhelm you no one would.

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    MTU-
    Aargh!!!!! OK, I admit I’m drooling at the thought of the Yankees adding King Felix, but a litlle “spittle”, or at least I think that was, came up when I just traded away both Montero[my next Posada/Piazza] and either of Betances[my next Josh Johnson/JR Richard] or Banueles[my next Ford/Santana/teddy Higuera], for him.

    Go away!! :)

  17. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Kev-

    One way or another the evaluation is likely to be plastered all over the board after his start.

    So don’t worry.

  18. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    YT-

    Just curious. Would you move those guys for Verlander, or would you feel the same way ?

  19. jpb173 July 17th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    UPDATE, 10:05 a.m.: Chris Dickerson just walked in. No word on a move.

    ================================================

    Hopefully, this means goodbye to Sergio Mitre. Yesterday CC gave the Yankees 8 innings so the bullpen might be able to get by without Mitre today.

  20. austinmac July 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    I believe too many underestimate the Sox ability to make a deal. They will either get a RF or a SP.

  21. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    No Bautista.
    No 2010 average ERA 7.21 against his daddy-the Jays.

    The new and improved Phil Hughes returns to stifle the Blue Jays, and thankfully there’s no mention of Mitre warming up!!

    Go Yankees!!!!

  22. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    With Texas on a 10 game winning streak and the Mariners fading to 10.5 games back, you’d have to think they’ll consider moving Felix Hernandez for young impact bats. They really need to remake that lineup.

    I feel like the Yankees are so stockpiled with trade bait that Cashman and company will have their choice between Ubaldo Jimenez or Felix Hernandez.

    The King is the better bet but he’s also set to make 20 million annually.

    Jimenez is the lesser more unproven talent but adding him would give the Yankees a cheaper rotation and thus more payroll flexibility to either add Prince Fielder as a free agent after 2011 or Matt Kemp as a free agent after 2012.

    I still like Jimenez.

    But perhaps the Mariners match up with the Yankees better because we have so many bats.

    The Rox don’t need Nunez because they have Tulowitski.

    The Mariners DO need Nunez.

    The Mariners could use Montero, Gardner, Nunez…any of those guys. But because of Felix’ 20 million dollar price tag, I would not include either Betances or Banuelos. I’d offer them Hughes because he’s closer to arbitration and free agency.

    For Felix I would offer Hughes + Montero + Gardner + Nunez. No B’s.

    For Jimenez I would offer Montero + Betances + Nova + Murphy.

  23. LGY July 17th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Gotta love when people compare Ray Kruml to Brett Gardner.

    He’s fast and he’s white, so he’s the next Gardner!!

  24. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Austin-

    I though you’d be sitting near a lake at 10,000 feet about now ?

    Too funny.

    :)

  25. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    what’s the matter, getting scared that you’re about to lose the love of your life? I only said that Kruml was the same type of player as Gardner.

  26. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Just curious. Would you move those guys for Verlander, or would you feel the same way ?

    ———————————
    Verlander was on my list last thread as was Kershaw if you remember, but only righty Betances +pieces for Verlander and Banuelos+pieces for lefty Kershaw. Not including Montero.

    Montero is the most exciting power Yankee minor leaguer since the Mick, who came up at the age of 19. I want the Yankees to free Jesus and bring him up now!!!!

  27. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    YT-

    OK. You’re nothing if not consistent.

    Hughes needs to improve today. Show some swing and miss stuff again.

    I hope he does.

    :)

  28. LGY July 17th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    what’s the matter, getting scared that you’re about to lose the love of your life? I only said that Kruml was the same type of player as Gardner.

    —————–

    Actually, as you know I only care about the Yankees winning baseball games. If Brett Gardner was traded for the right player that would increase the Yankees odds of doing that in both the short and long term that would be fantastic.

    I do have to laugh though at the comparisons with scrubs like Kruml or Golson. If they trade Gardner, they still have this white guy in AA who is his clone! Or Golson who is just as fast! Like those players are going to come close to approximating Gardner’s production.

    Many Yankee fans don’t fully see how much Brett Gardner helps the Yankees win baseball games and it becomes obvious through those type of silly comparisons. I bet they would understand quickly if Greg Golson or Austin Kruml was the Yankees starting LF.

  29. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Bret-

    For Jimenez I would offer Montero + Betances + Nova + Murphy.

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    I just came back on board from throwing up!!!

  30. Bo knows July 17th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Kruml at 26 is in AA with a OBP under 350. Yeah, just run him up to NY, he’ll be fine.

  31. Yank 97 July 17th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    The Rockies are telling interested teams that the price will be high, and that if Colorado deals him, the extraction of prospects needed in return will be painful. One evaluator’s current odds of Jimenez being traded: 25 percent. “It has to be something that makes sense for the Rockies (right now),” said the evaluator.

    The Rockies are targeting major-league ready guys who could help in the big leagues right now, or in the very near future. The Tigers have interest, but might not have the right prospects to satisfy Colorado; a third team would probably be required for a deal. The Yankees have the players that would be required for a deal — Ivan Nova, others — but it’s not clear what their level of interest is, and whether their interest will change, given the recent struggles of Bartolo Colon and Freddy Garcia.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....ney_buster

  32. 86w183 July 17th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    sitting in my Toronto hotel room about to head over to Rogers Center

    Really disappointed no Jeter in the lineup… wanted him to pass Kaline… maybe as a pinch hitter?

    Hughes also a big factor today. would love to see him be really sharp

    Sitting in the front row on the Rf line… gonna try to get Swish’s attention and maybe some others. Yankees hats throughout the five person group!

    I would love either Jimenez or King felix. Jimenez is less expensive probably both in talent and payroll, but The KING is a proven A-list stud.

    I’m sure the price tag would be something like Montero or Romine, plus Nova or Noesi, plus Betances or Banuelos for Jimenez. Seattle would want Nunez plus a catcher and two arms.

    Tough call if you”re the GM and that talent is really available

  33. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    I dred this day. This place will be unreadable when the Black Cloud Of Lohud starts with another round of “Hughes can’t be trusted. Hughes is a failure as far as I’m concerned. Hughes will never be more than a #4 pitcher.” You can set your watch by it.

    Wouldn’t know a pitcher on the mound from a pitcher of water.

  34. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Jimenez’s season got off on the wrong foot for a number of reasons. He didn’t do the same throwing program over the winter. Then his catch-up period was interrupted by thumb cuticle and groin injuries in spring training. The thumb affected his confidence. He wasn’t sure where the ball was going when it left his hand. And it wasn’t going as fast because he was still building up arm strength.

    “Now I am almost there. I am getting to 95 miles per hour consistently. You are going to see more, I promise you that,” Jimenez said.

  35. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    I bet they would understand quickly if Greg Golson or Austin Kruml was the Yankees starting LF.

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    Who the hell is Austin Kruml?

  36. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    ***dread***

  37. 108 stitches July 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Eric Dickerson just walked in ? This would be a glut of outfielders and a possible signal that Andruw jones is about to be cut.
    Mitre should be next and replaced with J.C. Romero. Brandon Laird should replace Pena. Montero should replace Cervelli.
    That should take care of internal moves unless Nova is needed.

  38. RadioKev July 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:22 am
    Kev-

    One way or another the evaluation is likely to be plastered all over the board after his start.

    So don’t worry.
    ———–

    No doubt about it. I’d just rather see it with my own eyes ;)

    Some here would have me know his last start was a complete wreck and the beginning of the end of his Yankee career. I saw it as a little rocky, but he kept it under wraps for the most part even though he wasn’t at his best.

  39. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Wish I could stay on, but gotta go. Thanks to all for your instructive and constructive comments.

    As for you MTU-take a hike!! Still friends?? :)

  40. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Eric Dickerson just walked in ?

    *********

    Dude was generational for the LA Rams. i kid, i kid :)

  41. LGY July 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Who the hell is Austin Kruml?

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    I morphed noted Gardner clones Ray Kruml and Austin Krum into one craptastic player.

    I mean they are clones, so who cares!

  42. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    GB7

    Wouldn’t know a pitcher on the mound from a pitcher of water.

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    To some of the women here it could be one and the same.(cool drink of water) :lol:

  43. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    108 stitches July 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Eric Dickerson just walked in ?
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    Hell of a running back in the NFL! LOL

  44. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Since I know some of you just hate my guts because I’d be willing to trade away some of our best prospects for a proven stud pitcher.

    I’m off to walk the mongeeze.

    Feel free to hate on me as much you like while I’m gone.

    :)

  45. Stoneburner July 17th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    LGY July 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am
    Who the hell is Austin Kruml?

    ——————

    I morphed noted Gardner clones Ray Kruml and Austin Krum into one craptastic player.

    I mean they are clones, so who cares!

    **********

    As long as you are not poking holes and fun at the mini-beast Tyler Austin – that is okay.

  46. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    YT-

    As far as I’m concerned till the bitter end.

    :)

  47. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    If Eric Dickerson walked into the clubouse, he’s looking for a football. Chris Dickerson is another story, but, so was Angie and Janice Dickinson 30 years ago.

  48. Bo knows July 17th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    For Jimenez I would offer Montero + Betances + Nova + Murphy.

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    You missed Gardner. I’d throw him in there as well. Not enough roughage in the diet

  49. Yankee Trader July 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    MTU-

    Now I’m really gone. Go walk the pups! Till later.

  50. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Fowler is in AAA. I can see the Rox being interested in Gardner. If it gets them off the B’s I’m all for it.

  51. LGY July 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    CC-Ubaldo-Hughes-AJ-open

    If you trade for Ubaldo, there is only one rotation spot available for the next 2.5 years. That’s why you have to trade as much pitching as possible and try to save the hitters.

  52. jpb173 July 17th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    198 stitches,

    …Mitre should be next and replaced with J.C. Romero. Brandon Laird should replace Pena…

    ===============================================

    I would have thought so too, but for the last few games Scranton has played Kevin Russo at 3B and moved Laird to LF. I have a feeling that if Nunez continues to struggle defensively at 3B, Russo might be the guy they call up till ARod comes back.

  53. Bo knows July 17th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    You’ve been trading Gardner for years so it was a shock when he wasn’t included.

  54. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    http://www.prosportsdaily.com/mlb/mlb-rumors.html
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    nice way to go around the country & check out team RUMORS

  55. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Bret

    This isn’t an attack on you personally so don’t take it as such.

    If you were trying to get a GM job you would hope they didn’t see your trade suggestions here.

  56. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Can we get at least 5 critiques of line-up today so the Lohud reverse curse can help give Phil a good lead?

  57. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I guess Girardi has tickets to an early all you can eat today so he put out this weak-a55 line-up. There is no more guessing. He is TRYING to lose.

  58. DocTodd July 17th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Time to do something with Montero….either bring him up and give the kid a chance to play, or trade him….

  59. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Maine,

    This is just a friendly reminder, not an elusion to your negligence.

    “The Rockies are telling interested teams that the price will be high, and that if Colorado deals him, the extraction of prospects needed in return will be painful.”

    Painful, Maine.

    Painful.

  60. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    allusion

  61. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    need to get CC some help…

  62. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    LGY,

    I like this better:

    CC Sabathia
    Ubaldo Jimenez
    AJ Burnett
    Manny Banuelos
    Dellin Betances

  63. tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Bojo,
    All the left hand batters and switch hitters are susceptible to down and in change ups. Lots of Ks. Then you’ve got Martin and Pena. We’re DOOMED!

  64. brownies July 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Idiot Lupica is at it again this morning. Phillies Gm is smart because he swooped in and got cliff ‘phil’lee…I think their GM admitted he was lucky with cliff wanting to return after the “smart” GM traded him away. And lupica reminds us of the yankees payroll in his article..again.

  65. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Then buy Prince Fielder and Matt Kemp.

    Ain’t gonna happen though.

    The Rox will want Montero + 1 B.

    Mariners? They have so many holes I think you can get them off the B’s.

    Plenty of bats on the FA market.

    I wouldn’t trade pitching if I could hold it.

  66. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Bret

    I wasn’t singling out just one.

    There are many to pick from. :lol:

  67. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    I’ve only seen Ubaldo Jimenez pitch a few times, but I am not sure if he is the “Ace” we should be throwing all our chips at. I mean–sure–we can throw Chip at them and see if a Yankee blogger gets us Ubaldo in return, but I don’t know if Mrs Chip would allow that.

    To me–in looking at reports and stats–U.J. seems more like AJ #2 than a #2 ACE…plenty of potential, wild swings in effectiveness, plenty of walks and passed balls. Not play-off tested to show he is a difference maker.

    I would not make the trade in lieu of who the Rox will certainly ask for in return.

    For those that compare our top two pitchers to the top 2 on other teams, I once more say it is a 25 man team versus a 25 man team, not 2 on 2 basketball pickup game. We have gotten past superior pitchers before by patience and timely hitting. We have proven we can win that way time and again.

    My main worry comes back to having enough offense in post season to overcome the other pitching.

  68. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    There’s nothing excessive about the most recent trade package models.

    King Felix and Ubaldo will be expensive.

    It will sting.

    You have to be realistic about that.

  69. Giuseppe Franco July 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Last year, it was BJ Upton who was supposedly “dangled” by the D-Backs and could be had because Towers was willing to listen to offers.

    And last I checked, Upton is still in Arizona.

    A GM willing to listen to offers doesn’t mean the guy is on the verge of getting traded.

    Any GM worth his weight in poo is going to explore all options to make his team better.

  70. Giuseppe Franco July 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Oops. Justin Upton. Screwed that up.

  71. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Tampa series

    Burnett…Hellickson
    Colon…Cobb
    Garcia..Price
    CC…Shields

  72. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    It’s about time they let Pena play.

    He’s gonna have a big game I tell ya.

    He’s been reading here and gonna prove all you scouts wrong. :lol:

  73. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Why isn’t Montero allowed to procede with his baseball education like other catchers. There’s less than a handful of catchers in the last forty years that have made any substantial impact at the age of 21 or younger. Bench, maybe Rodriguez, and Mauer just about there at 22, unless you count his 35 games at at 21.

  74. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Spot on Tommie!

  75. Niblick July 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Pray that no balls are hit to the left side of the infield today!

  76. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    # GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Why isn’t Montero allowed to procede with his baseball education like other catchers. There’s less than a handful of catchers in the last forty years that have made any substantial impact at the age of 21 or younger. Bench, maybe Rodriguez, and Mauer just about there at 22, unless you count his 35 games at at 21.
    ——————————
    just maybe they don’t feel he’s ready

  77. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Not really sure where the saying “spot on” came from…

    I think it is British, like one of their many other saying:

    * A spot of tea?
    * They mean to win Wimbledon
    * I’m wearing my wife’s ladies silk underwear today
    * Fish and chips
    * etc

  78. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    It’s like WCYF said, either the Yankees feel Montero is not ready to catch in the big leagues or they want to protect his trade value.

    Pick your poison.

  79. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    It’s like WCYF said, either the Yankees feel Montero is not ready to catch in the big leagues or they want to protect his trade value.
    ———————————
    that was me and I’ve been saying that since he didn’t make the team out of ST

  80. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am
    “Adalberto Mondesi, the 16-year-old son of Raul Mondesi, is expected to sign for $1MM when eligible in two weeks according to Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes (link in Spanish). Rojas says the Royals have the inside track, but the Yankees, Mets, Giants, and Athletics are also interested. Make sure you tell your friends about our Spanish-language sister site Rumores de Beisbol.”

    MLBTR

    Wonder if he has his father’s arm…
    ____
    This is REALLY disturbing news.

    This kid was the top rated Intl FA position player that Yankees were tracking. Has great arm, speed, switch hitter, athleticism, and was raised in a pro baseball family. I hope the Yankees swoop in and sign him.

  81. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    That was WCYF in your head, remember?

    :lol:

  82. Pat M. July 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    GB…..Great line about the pitcher of water reference….

  83. austinmac July 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    MTU,

    The Yankees need me no matter what the elevation. :) Spent the night in Breckenridge. Awfully busy with tourists. Heading to Grand lake for a few days and then Estes.

    I see the trades now–trade Montero, Gardner and Nunez for Felix and then trade Warren and Adams for Beltran. See you at the World Series.

  84. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Dickerson up Golson down

  85. Giuseppe Franco July 17th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Using WCYF as a point of reference is never a good way to enhance your argument.

  86. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    That was WCYF in your head, remember?
    ——————————————
    LOL

  87. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Pick your poison.

  88. Bronx Jeers July 17th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    sitting in my Toronto hotel room about to head over to Rogers Center

    ——————————

    Very cool. Yanks on the road is usually a blast and that’s a trip I have in my crosshairs. Did you fly?

  89. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Bret

    So if Montero was ready and they brought him up it would help his trade value.

  90. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am
    It’s like WCYF said, either the Yankees feel Montero is not ready to catch in the big leagues or they want to protect his trade value.

    Pick your poison.

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    Exactly how does that explain why people on here and in the media aren’t willing to allow Montero to progress?

    Repeating anything that idiot has to say, and That’s what you get.

  91. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:22 am
    Dickerson up Golson down
    ___
    Figures…Golson was only up according to Joe because of the lefties being faced.

  92. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    No, if Montero was ready, he’d be up. Period.

  93. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    GB,

    Now the media is keeping Montero in AAA?

    Lupica and company stunting the poor kids growth and development, eh?

  94. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    # GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am
    It’s like WCYF said, either the Yankees feel Montero is not ready to catch in the big leagues or they want to protect his trade value.

    Pick your poison.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Exactly how does that explain why people on here and in the media aren’t willing to allow Montero to progress?

    Repeating anything that idiot has to say, and That’s what you get.
    ———————————————
    people like to use that idiot word around here a lot…

  95. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Those meanies.

  96. Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    My 11:26 post was about “meanies” was in reference to Lupica and media stooges.

    They obviously have ZERO influence over the Yankees decision to keep Montero in AAA.

  97. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    GB7

    That info was direct from Heyman.

  98. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Bret

    If there was an emicon for yanking your chain I’d use it. :lol:

  99. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    people like to use that idiot word around here a lot…
    ____
    There is an easy joke there, but I’ll let it lay

  100. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Morning, Pat. How are things in your world? Must be a terrible thing to have to wait for Thursday to come around, huh?

    I’m looking forward to see Hughes pitch and the progress he’s made…just not looking forward to reading the usual tripe on here.

    Pickings on the trade market are pretty slim this year, unless you’re into extortion. I’d prefer to replace one of Garcia or colon with Nova. That’s the future, not the Colons and Garcias. If NYYs trade off 3 or four of the youngsters to acquire one pitcher, they’ll be in the same spot next year, looking for the future replacement for Burnett, or even the remainders of Garcia/Colon. That doesn’t even answer the offensive replacements. It’ll be back to $20 mil a year contracts and that can’t go on year after year. It’s taken 5 years to buld a farm system to be able to have good replacements and people somebody want. A Jiminez and Beltran trade would set the system back another 5 years. I’m strictly against it.

  101. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    # BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    people like to use that idiot word around here a lot…
    ____
    There is an easy joke there, but I’ll let it lay
    —————————————
    knock yourself out

  102. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Austin-

    Couldn’t do it w/o ya’.

    Not sure you gonna get much relief from tourits where you’re headed either.

    Have a great time.

    :)

  103. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Bret The Hitman July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
    GB,

    Now the media is keeping Montero in AAA?

    Lupica and company stunting the poor kids growth and development, eh?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Do you or can you even read? Do back and read it and go V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y.

  104. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    sp: tourists. damn.

  105. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    As pointed out in MLBT, if Alderson is willing to eat the salary, we probably are going to see a lot more teams compete for him, and probably do not get him.

    In that case, I would be interested in Melky Cabrerra as another bat….not sure who else would be interesting….Probably can get Melky for a second tier prospect like Phelps or Warren

  106. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    As pointed out in MLBT, if Alderson is willing to eat the salary, we probably are going to see a lot more teams compete for him, and probably not get him.

    In that case, I would be interested in Melky Cabrerra as another bat….not sure who else would be interesting….Probably can get Melky for a second tier prospect like Phelps or Warren

  107. John in Ohio July 17th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Went to see SWB Yanks play the Toledo Mud Hens last night. Was very surprised to see that the scoreboard had Mark Prior as the Yanks’ starter. Actually, it was Lance Pendleton. Pendleton was really getting squeezed by the home plate ump. Montero hit a couple of balls very hard. Good game. Kontos gave up a big homer to ice the game for the Hens.

  108. Pat M. July 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    GB…Bring up Nova and stick with him and move Garcia to the pen as a long reliever when Colon returns to health…..Those two are actually interchangeable in my mind……I do like the prospect of obtaining Beltran for the stretch run….And dump Meat-tray……Back to the British open and go USA Women……

  109. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:37 am
    As pointed out in MLBT, if Alderson is willing to eat the salary, we probably are going to see a lot more teams compete for him, and probably do not get him.

    In that case, I would be interested in Melky Cabrerra as another bat….not sure who else would be interesting….Probably can get Melky for a second tier prospect like Phelps or Warren

    —————————————————————————————–

    If they brought Melky back it would be good fodder for this place.

    Bring back the Melky- Gardner debate.

    Ya that was lots of fun.

  110. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Ithink the debate over playing time has been decided. This is 4th OFer role…and extra bat

  111. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    The Mongeeze must have been in a really nasty mood today, and hungry too.

    Just look what they did to this poor snake.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/cybermrb03/Rattler?authkey=Gv1sRgCKuWj-v5taug8wE#

    :)

  112. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Mets want mostly pitching help for Beltran and that leaves Boston out. They can’t cover their losses now and it’s getting worse.

  113. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 11:47 am
    MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Ithink the debate over playing time has been decided. This is 4th OFer role…and extra bat

    ———————————————————————————————

    I don’t think the debate is over here. :lol:

  114. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Pat, Mitre should never have neen considered in the first place. I’d have stayed with Pendleton over him.

    Looks like Kontos suffered a setback last night. He got hammered.

  115. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Mets want mostly pitching help for Beltran and that leaves Boston out. They can’t cover their losses now and it’s getting worse.

    ————————————————————–

    Did you see where they don’t know when Buchholz will be back if at all this year.

  116. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Maine-

    I saw that.

    better send that Laptop in for a complete overhaul.

    ;)

  117. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    I don’t think the debate is over here.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Randy remembers that song very well from WWI. George M. Cohan

    “Over There!!! Over There!!!”

  118. UnKnown July 17th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am
    Tampa series

    Burnett…Hellickson
    Colon…Cobb
    Garcia..Price
    CC…Shields

    —————

    joeman – last night MLB had Cobb and Hellickson switched. Is it for sure Cobb on Tues. instead of Monday now.

    If so have the Yankees ever faced Cobb before and could this be one of those games….

  119. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that the Yankees intend to evaluate Ubaldo Jimenez as possible trade target.
    If he’s really available, it certainly would make sense to take a look at him. The Yankees rotation had appeared to be in pretty good shape, but Bartolo Colon has fell back to earth recently and Phil Hughes isn’t a safe bet right now. Prospect Jesus Montero would certainly be someone likely to pique the Rockies’ interest, but it remains to be seen how willing they’ll really be to deal Jimenez.

  120. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Maine, rumor is that they don’t want him back.

    Too many complaints that computers have been disappearing all over the Back Bay.

  121. UnKnown July 17th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Also is Dickerson out of options yet or how does that work. They guy has been a yo yo’d back and forth a lot since coming over for MEAT TRAY

  122. Joe from Long Island July 17th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    What’s with Bucholz, his back? That would be a very big blow for Boston.

    If Sandy eats some of Beltran’s money, and wants a young pitcher, then the Yanks can do it. The more money eaten, the lesser the quality of pitcher, and vice-versa.

  123. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    # UnKnown July 17th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    joeman July 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am
    Tampa series

    Burnett…Hellickson
    Colon…Cobb
    Garcia..Price
    CC…Shields

    —————

    joeman – last night MLB had Cobb and Hellickson switched. Is it for sure Cobb on Tues. instead of Monday now.

    If so have the Yankees ever faced Cobb before and could this be one of those games….
    ———————————
    got it from CBS & we all know how they are with this kind of info..not to good

  124. G-C July 17th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Brett Gardner has probably been the second, or at worst, third best player on the Yankees this year.

    The degree to which he is so consistently underappreciated just boggles my mind.

    Losing Gardner would be one of the only things that over the next several months that would seriously jeopardize the Yankees chances of making the postseason. Even A-Rod is not as important to this team on both sides of the ball.

  125. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    One option per year is used, no matter how many times to the minors and back. Usually, most players have four options once added to a 40 man roster,

  126. UnKnown July 17th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Alright, well I guess it doesn’t really matter. The Yankees are going to get everyone but Neimann from the Rays no matter which days, I guess.

    I do know that it is a huge series. 3 of 4 would be delightful.

  127. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    MLB has Burnett & Cobb you are right

  128. blake July 17th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Go Phil! Get that new hook working today.

  129. luis July 17th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Hi everyone’,

    WOW!, heated discutions in the blog today!, i would have never guessed that the worst poster in this blog would be quoted as saying something that made sense. ( hint: he is from the west ).

    On to the trade posibilities: Making a trade that includes any player name Montero, Betances, or Banuelos would be a mistake. If you haven’t noticed we are in the middle of a guard changing process, we can’t afford a quick fix now, because it would hurt the franchise in the long run, we no longer have Jeter, Posada, Petitte or Mo in their prime.

  130. joeman July 17th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    # UnKnown July 17th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Alright, well I guess it doesn’t really matter. The Yankees are going to get everyone but Neimann from the Rays no matter which days, I guess.

    I do know that it is a huge series. 3 of 4 would be delightful.
    ————————————-
    I would settle for a split

  131. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Joe In LI, Alderson says they’ll eat the money for better and more quality. That’s his preference, I assume this has gone through ownership, of course.

  132. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    I don’t think the debate is over here.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Randy remembers that song very well from WWI. George M. Cohan

    “Over There!!! Over There!!!”
    ___
    Great movie with James Cagney…first time I ever realized how talented he was as a dancer…

  133. UnKnown July 17th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    The infield defense is a cause for concern today. Those guys are going to have to field like actually Major Leaguers today.

  134. tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Bojo,
    Cagney was a song-and-dance man all his career, with time out for gangsters.

  135. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Luis-

    You raggin’ on me ?

    I thought we were buds.

    :(

  136. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Joe from Long Island July 17th, 2011 at 11:59 am
    What’s with Bucholz, his back? That would be a very big blow for Boston.

    —————————————————————-

    Yes. They can’t find anything wrong structually but he still can’t pitch without pain.

    Go to Pete Abes site.

    He has a write-up about it.

  137. tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    UnKnown,
    Pena and Nunez on a pool table; I agree.

  138. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    If you guys like Cagney, don’t watch his westerns. However, as a comedian. he was great. Watch “One, Two, Three”. You not only get Cagney but one of Hollywood’s true beauties of the 60s, Pamela Tiffin.

  139. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    Bojo,
    Cagney was a song-and-dance man all his career, with time out for gangsters.
    ___
    I learned that later…only knew him before that on gangster movies and Dead End Kids flicks.

  140. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    I don’t think the debate is over here.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Randy remembers that song very well from WWI. George M. Cohan

    “Over There!!! Over There!!!”
    ___
    Great movie with James Cagney…first time I ever realized how talented he was as a dancer…

    ————————————————————————————————–

    Word is that the same thing can’t be said about GB7.

  141. luis July 17th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    MTU,

    NEVER!, you are a very intelligent poster, and when we disagree you always have a fair point.

    I was refering to a guy that keeps picking fights here

  142. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Maine-

    Those Texas pitchers on Boston all seem to have their troubles.

    I hope they keep bringing ‘em in.

    :)

  143. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    MTU–

    That was some huge snake! It makes me glad to live on east coast!

    Did you make a belt or boots out of the skin?

  144. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Luis-

    As always. Just kidding. Be smart don’t ever take me too seriously.

    I sure don’t.

    :)

  145. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Cagney played the best “Bull Halsey” that anyone has. Also great in “Thee Fighting 69th” with Pat O’Brien.

  146. tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Bojo,
    We’ve got timber rattlers here in Georgia just as big!

  147. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Do any of the under 30 crowd here even know what Dead End Kids flicks were? I wonder if they ever get shown anymore.

  148. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Bojo,
    We’ve got timber rattlers here in Georgia just as big!
    ____
    Holy cow! I’m never leaving tri-state area.

  149. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    I don’t think the debate is over here.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Randy remembers that song very well from WWI. George M. Cohan

    “Over There!!! Over There!!!”
    ___
    Great movie with James Cagney…first time I ever realized how talented he was as a dancer…

    ————————————————————————————————–

    Word is that the same thing can’t be said about GB7.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I doubt that dancing with a hoofer means quite the same for you as it does for me.

  150. luis July 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    MTU,

    The thing is i’m not that good at understanding obtuse, LOL

  151. tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Bojo,
    Under 30? Try under 60!

  152. Betsy July 17th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Well that’s it for Jimenez – I’m not interested in the Yankees feeling the pain by trading for Jimenez. He does have some questions lingering over him – it’s all moot anyway. I do not believe the Rockies have any interest in trading him.

    I don’t know why anyone cares what Pukica has to say. I skipped right over the excerpt posted here because he’s an obnoxious twerp who hasn’t been relevant since a few Presidential Adminstrations. The entire Daily News staff with the exception of Mark Feinsand hate the Yankees…………Pukica and Madden lead the way, with Harper a few lengths behind.

  153. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Cagney played the best “Bull Halsey” that anyone has. Also great in “Thee Fighting 69th” with Pat O’Brien.
    ___
    I’ll have to look those up and rent them….

  154. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Bojo-

    I must confess. That was a prop. Sent to me by a friend. Made for a good joke.

    It was a huge Eastern diamondback though. Would never ever want to run into one that size or GB would be right and my babies would be snake food.

    Me too probably.

    :)

  155. Doc Iac July 17th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    pitchin is more important than hittin,

    if the yankees should trade any prosect out of the 3 best they got, its gotta be Monetero

    Betances and Banuelos both have hgue upsides, chance theyll both be great in the ML is low tho, so we gotta hang on to one cause chances that at least 1 is great is pretty decent

  156. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    That was a rattler? I thought that it was a garter snake

  157. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    I know that Leo Gorcey hated him. While in a Dead End Kids movie, he once was in a scene with Cagney, and he started to ad lib in the scene. Cagney slugged him to the floor and told him in no uncertain words never to do that again with him.

  158. MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    GB7

    You shouldn’t dance with hookers.

  159. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    GB-

    Coming from a guy who likes to play with King Cobra’s.

    I guess you’re right.

    :)

  160. BoJo July 17th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    tomingeorgia July 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    Bojo,
    Under 30? Try under 60!
    ___
    SERIOUSLY!?!? Leo Gorcey? Huntz Hall? Bowery Boys?

  161. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    MaineYankee July 17th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    GB7

    You shouldn’t dance with hookers.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Hey, I checked twice to make sure that I didn’t misspell that word.

  162. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
    GB-

    Coming from a guy who likes to play with King Cobra’s.

    I guess you’re right.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Don’t remind me of that. I still have nightmares.

  163. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    New thread ==>

    (non-venemous).

  164. MTU July 17th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    GB-

    foolishness of youth and alchohol.

    Wonder we survived some of things we did.

    :)

  165. GreenBeret7 July 17th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    MTU, sometimes, kids are too stupid to get hurt.


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