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Jeter documentary to premier July 28 on HBO

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 20, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I’m sure you remember that Derek Jeter had a camera crew with him through the final days of his pursuit of 3,000 hits. Today, HBO and MLB announced that the documentary will premier on July 28 on HBO. Here’s the announcement.

New York, NY — “DEREK JETER 3K,” the hour-long documentary special from HBO and Major League Baseball Productions, will premiere Thursday, July 28th at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT on HBO. The special chronicles New York Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter’s dramatic quest for his 3,000th career hit, which he accomplished versus the Tampa Bay Rays with a remarkable five-for-five performance on July 9th at Yankee Stadium. “DEREK JETER 3K” will take viewers behind the scenes as Jeter made his run at the 3,000-hit milestone, becoming the first player to do it in a Yankees uniform.

With the cooperation of Derek Jeter and the Yankees, MLB Productions gained extensive access to Jeter both at and away from the ballpark. For the first time ever, Jeter wore a microphone during two games including the one where he reached the 3,000 career hit milestone. He also allowed MLB Productions camera crews to follow him on multiple occasions and in a variety of settings, including in his home and during rehabilitation from a calf injury. “DEREK JETER 3K” also will feature exclusive interview footage with the Yankee captain which was recorded shortly after he became only the 28th player in MLB history to achieve the milestone.

Produced by MLB Productions in collaboration with HBO Sports, “DEREK JETER 3K” will include reflections on Jeter’s entire career, including footage in the Major League Baseball Film and Video Archive from his early days with the Yankees through his five World Series Championships. The special will include new interviews with his family and friends as well as Yankees executives, legends and teammates such as Hal Steinbrenner, Brian Cashman, Joe Girardi, Joe Torre, Curtis Granderson, Dave Winfield, Minka Kelly, Billy Crystal, and many more. Liev Schreiber, the voice of HBO Sports, will narrate.

In addition to the prime-time premiere on July 28 and a full schedule of replays, the special also will be available to subscribers on HBO ON DEMAND® and HBO GO.

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321 Responses to “Jeter documentary to premier July 28 on HBO”

  1. BTX July 20th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    The Phillies appear to be at least an early favorite in the Carlos Beltran sweepstakes that’s drawn interest from as many 10 teams.

    There has been buzz over the past few days about Beltran and the Phillies, who do have a decent prospect stash. While most of Philly’s better prospects are pitchers, two people with knowledge of the talks said the Mets’ first target with Philly would be top outfield prospect Domonic Brown. That may seem at first blush like a big asking price, but the Phillies are probably the World Series favorite and are clearly going for it this year

    After the Phillies, the Giants, Braves and Red Sox appear to be the most likely landing spots for Beltran. Al those teams are also in the outfield market, like Philadelphia. Boston is said by one source to be among the two most aggressive so far, confirming a Foxsports.com report. But all things considered, the Phillies may be slightly more likely. Like Philly, the Red Sox are dealmakers, but they may be more reluctant than the Phillies to give up top prospects.

    10. Yankees. They called awhile back. But they say they aren’t currently in the Beltran market and would call upon top prospect Jesus Montero if they needed a hitter later.

    Jesus Montero would be part of any Yankees package for Jimenez. Many see Montero ultimately as a first baseman, so he’d fit Colorado. The Yankees are suggesting they don’t want to include any of the three pitchers that interest Colorado — Manuel Banuelos, Dellin Betances or Ivan Nova, who was hurt during a minor league start on Tuesday night — and would like to hold onto Austin Romine, a top defensive catching prospect, as well

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z1Sf24ka5w

  2. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Liev Schreiber is the voice of HBO Sports? Shows how much I watch HBO Sports. ;)

  3. Mike Ri July 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Jesus Montero would be part of any Yankees package for Jimenez. Many see Montero ultimately as a first baseman, so he?d fit Colorado. The Yankees are suggesting they don?t want to include any of the three pitchers that interest Colorado ? Manuel Banuelos, Dellin Betances or Ivan Nova, who was hurt during a minor league start on Tuesday night ? and would like to hold onto Austin Romine, a top defensive catching prospect, as well

    Something has to give . .you can’t keep everyone

  4. blake July 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Dom Brown for Beltran? If the Philllies do that then they must realize how soon their window will be closing…..they are getting old and the Braves will be better than them soon.

  5. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Blake-

    Maybe the Phillies and Yankees went thru a timewarp?

    They trade away all their good stuff in an effort to win it all now while we prospect hug and try to protect our farm.

    They became us and we became them.

    Weird. Huh ?

    :)

  6. Mike Ri July 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Per Mlbtraderumors

    Boston’s talks with the Mets about Beltran have not advanced beyond preliminary discussions, reports WEEI’s Alex Speier. Eight to ten teams are said to be in the mix, with the Red Sox among the top six.

  7. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Mike-

    That ain’t nothing.

    At one point it was rumored that up to 17 teams were scouting Jimenez.

  8. blake July 20th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    MTU,

    Yea a little bit. Im not a “prospect hugger” but I am pro keeping them unless you can trade for something significantly better than what you already have.

  9. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Blake-

    Same here.

    I like a balanced approach.

  10. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    I just don’t see the Red Sox gettin Beltran. There are other teams that have better prospects and more need. The Braves should try and get him…..he could be the piece that let’s them catch the Phillies.

  11. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Funny stuff. That’s OK. If you get to that point, trust my judgement and you will be justly rewarded. I get the stuff all the time from everywhere. (Another story for another time) :-)

  12. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Sergio Mitre was placed on the disabled list with shoulder tendonitis. He’s also been sick, but Girardi said the shoulder is the real problem. It might explain his lack of velocity recently.

    What is it with picking up ex-Yankees who almost immediately go back on the DL – first Marquez, now Mitre. Chad Gaudin was just DFA’d by Washington, is he next?

  13. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    I just don’t see the Red Sox gettin Beltran. There are other teams that have better prospects and more need. The Braves should try and get him…..he could be the piece that let’s them catch the Phillies.

    ————–

    Actually the two teams are a pretty good match.

    Boston could send Michael Bowden to the Mets for Beltran – Bowden would slot right into the Mets rotation.

  14. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    “Boston could send Michael Bowden to the Mets for Beltran –Bowden would slot right into the Mets rotation.”

    Why isn’t he pitching for the Red Sox then? Sure they could make a deal with the Sox…..but other teams could offer more and have more need as I said.

  15. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    If Domonic Brown is on the table for Beltran then the Yankees shouldn’t get involved. The Mets by being willing to deal in their division have raised the price on Beltran significantly if that report is close to being accurate.

    AL East teams could learn something from the Mets here. If you’re willing to deal w/in the division, your division rivals will overpay and raise the price on your trade chips.

    As for the Phillies being “win now” they have to play that way. They don’t want to go to the post season missing a bat they could have gotten now. Same with the Red Sox. The Red Sox could win a title this year. Their pitching is in tatters and they keep winning games with their offense.

    It’s why the Yankees have to overtake the Red Sox in the division before the end of the season. I don’t want to go into the ALCS with 4 games guaranteed in Fenway where they get the final at bat.

    That said, Girardi will start resting guys and playing for the WC next month so I shouldn’t care since he doesn’t see the benefit in winning his division unless he learned something from last season.

  16. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Logan, just like burnett never offered up an excuse for last night other than to say he pitched well, but, didn’t play the ball well. Whatever you want to say about this team, every player holds himself accountable. You never hear excuses or blame being shifted. That doesn’t hold true on most other teams. When have you seen a pitcher glare at a fielder for an error? Not since Mussina retired.

    ***************

    The exception to that is Joba. Numerous times on post game interviews he would tell the Kim Jones mic how well he thought he pitched after getting shellacked.

  17. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Boston could send Michael Bowden to the Mets for Beltran – Bowden would slot right into the Mets rotation
    ====================

    Good point, except that you’re forgetting that Bowden sucks. Red Sox don’t even consider him a prospect any longer. Stuff is probably bullpen quality at best.

  18. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    I mentioned that yesterday, The Yankees didn’t know any of this before he was released by the Brewers ? Don’t they give incoming players a physical anymore ? Continues to draw a paycheck for nothing, unreal.

    He must have photos of Girardi and or Cashman.

  19. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Bowden has thrown 7 relief innings this year…..he’s 24 years old so with the Sox back end pitching woes if he could start effectively then wouldn’t he be starting for them now instead of Wakefield?

  20. Abomb82 July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Teams may have better pieces, but not all of them will have the “go for it” mentality that Boston and Philly do.

    Every year we go through this same thing – people devalue the Sox prospects and say they don’t have what it takes and other teams can offer way more and they end up getting the player for far less than people expected.

    You would think people would learn to stop thinking they know what other teams will offer/what other GMs will want. It only leaves them infuriated when the Sox or some other team get him for some nondescript prospect.

    But if the Dom Brown reports are true, that is pretty much game over for everyone else. Who else will top that, or want to for a rental who won’t even yield draft picks?

  21. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    “Every year we go through this same thing –people devalue the Sox prospects and say they don’t have what it takes and other teams can offer way more and they end up getting the player for far less than people expected.”

    Example other than Adrian Gonzalez who they gave up their top 3 guys for and their GM used to work for the Red Sox?

  22. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    I think Heyman was just speculating and asking the question …would they trade Brown? I just can’t see them doing that.

  23. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    You have got to love the Phillies management. They raised their payroll $30 million last year to $165 million and now are aggressively going after Beltran and Mike Adams or Heath Bell.

    I remember when we used to have that mindset.

  24. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Example other than Adrian Gonzalez who they gave up their top 3 guys for and their GM used to work for the Red Sox?

    =======================

    Victor Martinez

  25. pat July 20th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    I was thinking about this yesterday during the Giambi/Tex conversation but didn’t have time to jump in ……Could you imagine any Yankee player or Girardi participating in the kind of article Verducci wrote in 2006 for SI about Alex with help from Giambi, Torre and other clubhouse sources now?

    Can’t imagine players openly commenting on Derek leading off or Teix’s struggles with batting average or Jorge taking himself out of the line-up or looking lost for extended periods of time or Soriano being the 2011 version of Pavano or where AJs black eye came from last year.

    Made me think what a different clubhouse it has become in 5 years.

  26. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    “Boston could send Michael Bowden to the Mets for Beltran –Bowden would slot right into the Mets rotation.”

    Why isn’t he pitching for the Red Sox then? Sure they could make a deal with the Sox…..but other teams could offer more and have more need as I said.

    ————

    RS are trying to convert him to a relief pitcher due to their depth in the rotation.

  27. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    “Victor Martinez”

    True but they gave up real prospects there as well……they don’t have anybody like Masterson now to deal.

  28. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    “or where AJs black eye came from last year”
    —–

    That mystery will haunt me for the rest of my life :P

  29. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    “RS are trying to convert him to a relief pitcher due to their depth in the rotation.”

    What depth? Jon Lackey and Tim Wakfield? Who is their #6 and 7? They have no starting pitching depth and Theo has said as much.

  30. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    I think Heyman was just speculating and asking the question …would they trade Brown? I just can’t see them doing that.

    ————-

    Can’t imagine the Phillies dealing Dom Brown to a division rival for a rental player. It would be like the Yankees sending Jesus Montero to the Orioles for Vlad.

  31. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    pat-very true. It’s definitely changed for the better.

  32. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    The Phillies are in an all in mode it seems and have been for a few years…….the bubble bursts eventually if you stay on that track.

  33. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    The Phillies are in an all in mode it seems and have been for a few years…….the bubble bursts eventually if you stay on that track.

    ****************

    They want to win it all bad – and it shows.

  34. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    True but they gave up real prospects there as well……they don’t have anybody like Masterson now to deal.

    ===================

    At that point, Masterson wasn’t anybody like Masterson. He was a 24 year old kid who couldn’t get a left handed hitter out to save his life. He didn’t really put it together until this season (7-20, 4.67 ERA with the Tribe before this season). It’s why they call ‘em prospects.

  35. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    “Victor Martinez”

    True but they gave up real prospects there as well……they don’t have anybody like Masterson now to deal.

    ————–

    Bowden, Dubront, Iglasies

  36. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Mell,

    Yes…..but he had ability. My point was that their upper levels are depleted of high end talent right now.

  37. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “Bowden, Dubront, Iglasies”

    Bowden is a reliever and Iglesias has a. 500 OPS in AAA this year.

  38. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    “Bowden, Dubront, Iglasies”

    Bowden is a reliever and Iglesias has a. 500 OPS in AAA this year.

    ————–

    Beltran’s a 2 month rental that you can’t even recoup draft picks for – he’s not bringing back an elite prospect (IMO)

  39. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Chip,

    I don’t either…..but my point was that there are several teams that could offer better packages of 2nd tier guys.

  40. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Blake:

    People on this very blog were fuming at the package the Indians accepted for Martinez.

  41. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    Chip,

    I don’t either…..but my point was that there are several teams that could offer better packages of 2nd tier guys.

    ——————-

    Possibly – but if the offers from the RS, Phils and Braves are similar – I think you’ll see Beltran in Boston.

  42. ET July 20th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    lol I remember the Martinez trade on this blog like it was yesterday. People were frustrated enough with Cashman as it is for not doing anything other than getting Hairston, but they were furious that they got Martinez with 1.5 years left for a “relief pitcher who can’t get out lefties”.

    I remember Gagne too, at the time, it was thought that we had to trade Horne or Jackson or someone (the 2nd tier guys back then) for him and the Sox got him for Gabbard.

    I do agree with the general point though that Sox prospects are undervalued here and people overstate what they have to give up for a particular player. These are also the same people who think we can get a quality pitcher for Romine/Warren/Laird/Phelps. But what do you expect from a Yankees blog? Same thing goes on at SOSH.

  43. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    Blake:

    People on this very blog were fuming at the package the Indians accepted for Martinez.

    ————

    As they were about what Boston gave up to get Eric Gagne (of course we didn’t know Gagne was going to implode at the time)

  44. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    …and there was also the Jason Bay deal – where Boston gave up a disgruntled Manny and a non-prospect in Craig Hansen, got Bay and had someone else pick up Manny’s salary.

  45. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Blake-

    I think Cashman has been trying to change the Culture of the Yankees with regards to the Farm.

    Sometimes he still seems like a salmon swimming upstream.

    Most recent example. Soriano. He hated that contract by all reports. Still over ruled.

    He still does not appear to have the level of autonomy that one would think he would like.

  46. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    Blake-

    I think Cashman has been trying to change the Culture of the Yankees with regards to the Farm.

    Sometimes he still seems like a salmon swimming upstream.

    Most recent example. Soriano. He hated that contract by all reports. Still over ruled.

    He still does not appear to have the level of autonomy that one would think he would like.

    ——————-

    My thought is that as long as someone else signs the checks no GM has total autonomy.

  47. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    …and there was also the Jason Bay deal – where Boston gave up a disgruntled Manny and a non-prospect in Craig Hansen, got Bay and had someone else pick up Manny’s salary

    ================================

    Not exactly. Boston paid Ramirez’s salary for the balance of that season.

  48. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    “People on this very blog were fuming at the package the Indians accepted for Martinez.”

    How did if work out for Cleveland? Also, pretty much every trade the Indians made for awhile there it was argued they didn’t get enough back…..Sabathia, Lee, etc….so it wasn’t just the Red Sox.

  49. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Chip-

    That is certain. But Cashman was none too happy about the Soriano signing. That was plain.

    And so far, he was 100 % right.

  50. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    He hated that contract by all reports

    ===================

    By all reports? We didn’t need any reports. Cashman said for the world to hear that he wasn’t down with the Soriano. In fact, he said it at the press conference in which the deal was announced.

  51. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    …and there was also the Jason Bay deal – where Boston gave up a disgruntled Manny and a non-prospect in Craig Hansen, got Bay and had someone else pick up Manny’s salary

    ================================

    Not exactly. Boston paid Ramirez’s salary for the balance of that season.

    ————-

    Sorry – I meant pick up the contract.

  52. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    But Peter Gammons said Craig Hanson was the best pitcher ever…..

  53. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    Chip-

    That is certain. But Cashman was none too happy about the Soriano signing. That was plain.

    And so far, he was 100 % right.

    —————–

    In fairness there have been plenty of moves Cashman has reccomended (and gotten approval for) that have been just as bad (if not worse) than Soriano.

  54. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Mell-

    Fair enough. Point is he was totally against that contract. I agree on that point.

    The contract itself was completely objectionable.

    And Soriano hasn’t even produced at this point.

  55. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    But Peter Gammons said Craig Hanson was the best pitcher ever…..

    —————–

    Ha.

    You don’t hear as much about Casey Kelly being the second coming now that he’s out of the RS system do ya

  56. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Chip-

    No Gm, except for theo, is perfect.

    He’s made some good deals and some poor ones.

    The improvement in the Farm goes to him and his team.

  57. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    Chip-

    No Gm, except for theo, is perfect.

    He’s made some good deals and some poor ones.

    The improvement in the Farm goes to him and his team.

    ————–

    I agree to a degree.

    You know my feelings on the way his development team has handled starting pitchers. Still waiting for one great pitching prospect to pan out under his watch.

  58. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Casey Kelly stills makes the Sox farm system better just by leaving his legacy

  59. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Plus it takes some big cajones to be the guy who signed Karsay, Farnsworth, Igawa and Pavano and complain when your bosses go out and sign Soriano.

  60. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    MTU-I have a message for you:

    HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    ;)

  61. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    I believe a big part of developing good starting pitchers is having good starting pitchers to develop.

  62. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Casey Kelly stills makes the Sox farm system better just by leaving his legacy

    ———

    True – though I think Keith Law dropped Kelly out of his top 50 prospects citing “he was traded away by Boston. That automatically devalues him.”

  63. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Igawa holds the all time wins record!

  64. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Chip-

    Still needs improvement in that area.

    Injuries sometimes take their toll. Unless you believe the Yankees are responsible for those ?

    Many people think the next wave of prospects to hit the shore will truly tell the tale.

    We’ll see.

  65. blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Let’s set some Erica bait…….Johnny Damon, Johnny Damon, Johnny Damon.

  66. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Erin-

    LoL.

    I don’t recall saying anything bad about Robbie ?

    :)

  67. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    YESNetwork A look at three big names rumored to be traded and how it affects the #Yankees http://t.co/b0cvwDu

  68. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    You don’t hear as much about Casey Kelly being the second coming now that he’s out of the RS system do ya

    ==========================

    Pretty sure he was in all the midseason Top 50′s I saw……..but, no you don’t hear as loudly as you have in the past.

  69. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    I believe a big part of developing good starting pitchers is having good starting pitchers to develop.

    ————–

    Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Humberto Sanchez – these were all top prospects

    Horne & Marquez were both highly thought of second level guys.

    Now in some cases injuries played a big role – but if the goal of your development strategy is to protect their arms, and they are still getting hurt, then perhaps you need to re-evaluate your strategy.

    Instead they are plodding along the same way with Brackman, Betances, Banuelos, Phelps, Warren, Mitchell…etc.

  70. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    MTU-I don’t think she’d care too much if you said something bad about Robbie. Damon, on the other hand…..

  71. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    Chip-

    Still needs improvement in that area.

    Injuries sometimes take their toll. Unless you believe the Yankees are responsible for those ?

    Many people think the next wave of prospects to hit the shore will truly tell the tale.

    We’ll see.
    ————

    MTU,

    I always hope for the best, but when I hear Brackman, Betances, Banuelos, Phelps, Warren, Mitchell…I think Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Horne, Marquez, Jones…

  72. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Erin-

    Or the Muppets.

    ;)

  73. Joe from Long Island July 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    AL East teams could learn something from the Mets here. If you?re willing to deal w/in the division, your division rivals will overpay and raise the price on your trade chips.

    That’s because Sandy Alderson is calling the shots on the Mets. A lot of people could learn a lot from him.

  74. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    If the Yankees trade Montero I wonder if they’ll sign Damon to replace Posada at DH next year?

  75. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Erin-

    Or the Muppets.

    ************************

    You’d be getting hisses from me too if you said something bad about the Muppets. :x

  76. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Chip,

    Look at how Tampa brings pitchers along……at a snails pace.

  77. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I stand corrected. Kelly was not in BA’s midseason Top 50. Was in Law’s (#29) and Goldstein’s (#35)

  78. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Chip-

    Let’s see.

    The other thing is that you have to realize they developed D-Rob too.

    He’s fantastic even though he isn’t a starter.

    I think Nova has a lot of potential too.

    Time will tell. Being a win now team makes it harder.

  79. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    Chip,

    Look at how Tampa brings pitchers along……at a snails pace.

    ——————

    Yes but they get here.

  80. mick July 20th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    But Peter Gammons said Craig Hanson was the best pitcher ever…..
    =====================
    he was in hs and at st johns, where they made him a reliever

  81. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    MTU July 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Chip-

    Let’s see.

    The other thing is that you have to realize they developed D-Rob too.

    He’s fantastic even though he isn’t a starter.

    I think Nova has a lot of potential too.

    Time will tell. Being a win now team makes it harder.

    —————–

    D-Rob is a reliever. Relievers are a lot easier to find/develop than starters. Closest thing we’ve seen to sustained success by a homegrown Yankee starting pitcher is CM Wang.

  82. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Chip-

    Let’s just hope they can succeed at a higher rate in the future.

  83. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Ellsbury
    Pedroia
    A-Gone
    Youk
    Ortiz
    Beltran
    Crawford
    Salty
    Lowrie

    sigh.

  84. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    How about this:

    KC gets a couple of Yankee minor leaguers

    Yankees get Betemit and Melky

  85. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    What is up fellas.
    Question for all.
    Who ends up with a better avg. at the end of the season between Posada, Cervelli and Martin?

  86. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    If the Red Sux made a serious push for Beltran, how would you like to face this lineup:

    Ellsbury
    The Midget
    AGone
    Pukilis
    Big Sloppy
    Beltran
    Crawford

    Pretty tough first 7 I’d say, would make up for a lot of their pitching injuries.

  87. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Chip, you beat me to it. :-)

  88. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Chavez is DHing this afternoon. he’s 2-2 with a run scored.

  89. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    What is up fellas.
    Question for all.
    Who ends up with a better avg. at the end of the season between Posada, Cervelli and Martin?

    —————————

    Martin

  90. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    Chip, you beat me to it
    ———–

    I gather I’m not the only one listening to Fransayso this afternoon.

  91. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Keep Melky away from Cano! They dont need to party like its 1999.

  92. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Ellsbury
    Pedroia
    A-Gone
    Youk
    Ortiz
    Beltran
    Crawford
    Salty
    Lowrie

    sigh.

  93. ET July 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Chip – listening to Francesa too?

    Yeah, that would be rough, as if they need anymore offense, they kill our pitching as it is. Especially with their top 3 starters healthy come playoff time.

  94. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Salty and Lowrie are no zeros.

  95. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Chavez is DHing this afternoon. he’s 2-2 with a run scored.

    =========

    Can he make it to Tamp in 6 hours?

  96. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Jose Reyes on the record as saying he would love to sign with the Angels – he has the wrong agent for that dream to come true.

  97. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    Keep Melky away from Cano! They dont need to party like its 1999.

    ———–

    Eh, they’re both older, more mature guys than they were a couple of years ago.

  98. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    If the Red Sux made a serious push for Beltran, how would you like to face this lineup:

    Ellsbury
    The Midget
    AGone
    Pukilis
    Big Sloppy
    Beltran
    Crawford
    ===========

    Not better than murderers row plus Cano and look how far that team went.

  99. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    LOL !

  100. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Exactly what does Boston have to trade? Reddish won’t get the deal done alone, they have no pitching to spare, Lowrie has a bum shoulder. Somebody mentioned the legendary rookie, Drew sutton. He’s 28 years old, not a rookie and he’s been passed around more often than the high school tramp.

  101. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Wishful thinking is good. Can you arrange a time warp ?

  102. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    Exactly what does Boston have to trade? Reddish won’t get the deal done alone, they have no pitching to spare, Lowrie has a bum shoulder. Somebody mentioned the legendary rookie, Drew sutton. He’s 28 years old, not a rookie and he’s been passed around more often than the high school tramp.

    ————-

    They can use Bowden or Dubront.

    Beltran’s not going to be terribly expensive. He’s an injury risk 2 month rental that has a clause preventing a team from offering him arbitration (no draft pick compensation)

    That said – I find it funny that IYO every Yankee minor leaguer is a future stud who shouldn’t be traded for anyone, but the Red Sox have absolutely nothing of value in their minor leagues.

  103. Yanks78 July 20th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    Salty has a higher OPS than Martin
    Lowrie has a higher OPS than Jeter

    They really are stacked. I’m not even sure Jimenez, with his high walk rates and wildness, will be able to pitch a quality game against them.

  104. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    ‘Reddish’

    ========

    Is that a new player or a color.

  105. Warning Track Power July 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Good thing I’ve been an HBO subscriber for about 7 years now.

  106. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    It’s not like we don’t have a need for Beltran. It really comes down to whether the Yankees are willing to bench Posada and draw up a lineup that’s build to give us the best chance to win.

    We can survive a 24 man roster until september comes

    Imagine this lineup with A-rod back

    Gardner
    Granderson
    Teix
    A-Rod
    Cano
    Swisher
    Beltran
    Jeter
    Martin/Montero

    It really comes down to what’s more important to the Yankees

  107. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    Chavez is DHing this afternoon. he’s 2-2 with a run scored.

    =========

    Can he make it to Tamp in 6 hours?

    ————————————————————————————————————————

    Sure, he’s just down the street in Jupiter, Florida. It’s a long street, though….187 miles

  108. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Yanks78 July 20th, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    Being as low as Jeter and Martin are right now that’s not setting the bar very high.

  109. Joe from Long Island July 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    If you want to daydream, I prefer this this one –

    Gardner
    Jeter
    Granderson
    Alex
    Cano
    Teixeira
    Beltran/Montero
    Swisher
    Martin

    CC, Jimenez, Colon, Hughes, AJ

  110. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    That said – I find it funny that IYO every Yankee minor leaguer is a future stud who shouldn’t be traded for anyone, but the Red Sox have absolutely nothing of value in their minor leagues.

    ***********

    Only here in the delusional world of LoHud. Go back to April and read the “regulars” opinions that the Red Sux were the worst team in history.

  111. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    If I’m going to fully daydream

    CC-Kershaw are my 1-2 punch :D

  112. ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Go get Matt Garza.
    He is proven in the AL East, and would likely require a little less than Ubaldo would.

  113. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Yup. Pages and pages and pages. Day after day after day………….reality ?…LMAO !

  114. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    GB-

    I hope Chavez makes it back soon.

  115. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Boston is not trading next year’s closer for a 2 month rental and Dobront is a replacement for the late departed Buchholz. betran is going to the highest bidder…that ain’t Boston. Pittsburgh could blow their offer out of the water and not feel it.

  116. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    VY,
    I was trying to say that our murderers row plus Cano a few years back was better than that lineup and we got shutdown by Detroit i believe. That red sox lineup doesnt scare me much.
    Ellsbury is up and down.
    The hobbit is playing way over his head right now.
    Agone nothing neg to say about him.
    Ugly is not hitting like he was in the past and isnt getting younger.
    Milkshakes well should run out of shakes by October.
    Beltran is an leg injury waiting to happen.
    Crawford see Beltron plus might be the biggest bust of the year.
    That doesnt include the pitching which is suspect.

    Who knows. Maybe Im too much of a Yankee homer.

  117. Yanks78 July 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    ac1,

    I’ve been touting that name as well. This is a guy who matched Lester pitch for pitch in a game 7 of an ALCS. He’s pitched fairly well in the playoffs (SSS and all), very good numbers against the AL East, has a lot of guts as well.

    He’d be one of those guys who might not be a traditional #2 and will be somewhat inconsistent, but would battle his tail off and match guys like Beckett/Lee/Harrison etc. in a game 2.

    At this point, he is a more proven commodity than Jimenez and would be far less costly. Still would have to give up a decent amount, but not our 3 of our best 5-6 guys.

  118. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    They can use Bowden or Dubront.

    =======================

    They really can’t. Bowden is simply not good enough. Dubront may one day be, but he’s injured.

  119. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    RiverAveBlues Eric Chavez again DH’ing for High-A Tampa today. He’s already 3-for-3 with two runs scored, and it’s just the 4th inning.

  120. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    MTU, I assume that Chavez will DH a couple of days, move onto FSL or Trenton for some days at 3rd and back to NYYs

  121. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Joe from LI,
    Heres mine.
    Gardner
    Granderson
    Teix
    Alex
    Cano
    Cuddyer
    Montero
    Swisher
    Jeter

  122. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    At this point, he is a more proven commodity than Jimenez and would be far less costly. Still would have to give up a decent amount, but not our 3 of our best 5-6 guys

    ==============================

    Not sure about FAR less costly. Don’t think the Cubs are moving him anyway, but they’d bee seeking a pretty bog package if they were to do so.

  123. Warning Track Power July 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Chavez is making progress.
    I can’t believe I actually typed that sentence.

    Yankees need him badly. He is a much better option off the bench compared to
    Laird or Pena(when he was healthy)

  124. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Yes. But the real question is how would Garza look without facial hair?

  125. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    GB-

    Sounds good. We can use what he brings. Thanks.

    By the way, are you expecting any kind of a big trade for us by the deadline ?

    Or do figure on the small stuff only.

  126. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    Boston is not trading next year’s closer for a 2 month rental and Dobront is a replacement for the late departed Buchholz. betran is going to the highest bidder…that ain’t Boston. Pittsburgh could blow their offer out of the water and not feel it.

    ————-

    You’re confusing Bowden and Bard.

  127. BTX July 20th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    I like the Garza idea as well. Cubs gave up a lot to get him, so he won’t be cheap, but cheaper than Ubaldo. I wouldn’t worry about him adjusting to NY and we all know what he can do in the AL. Swing and miss stuff, big time battler.

    Would probably still need to surrender one of the Big 3 though.

  128. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Joe,

    See if you can find a way to make that happen.

  129. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Will Chavez be on the bench, third(nunez sits) or dh(taking alot of Posadas ab) when he comes back?

  130. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    You’re confusing Bowden and Bard.

    =====================

    You’re confusing Bowden with someone who can bring a bat like Beltran.

  131. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    Go get Matt Garza.
    He is proven in the AL East, and would likely require a little less than Ubaldo would.

    ————–

    Why do you think he would be easier to get than Ubaldo? He’s the same age, less expensive and under team control

  132. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    MTU,

    I really don’t think there’s going to be a big trade. Maybe a couple of small ones.

  133. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Garza would cost nearly as much as Ubaldo.

    Bowden isn’t any good or he’d be pitching for the Sox right now…..

  134. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
    You’re confusing Bowden and Bard.

    =====================

    You’re confusing Bowden with someone who can bring a bat like Beltran.

    —————–

    I look at what the Astros got for Berkman as a fair starting point for what the Mets should expect for Beltran.

  135. Vineyard Yankee July 20th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:32

    I like some of your nicknames. That said, injuries are a part of the game for all concerned, they can happen at any time to anyone. If healthy that Sux lineup is pretty tough.

    Jeter, Tex, ARod (when he gets healthy) Swisher and Martin need to pick it up here pretty quick. The more I watch Jeter and Tex lately the less line drives I see.

  136. Joe from Long Island July 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    blake – it’s easy, just have a good cognac before bedtime :)

  137. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Will Chavez be on the bench, third(nunez sits) or dh(taking alot of Posadas ab) when he comes back?

    ================================

    Doubt he replaces Nunez all together, but I’d guess they’ll definitely find AB’s for him.

    Speaking of 3B, looks like Chipper Jones will be back this weekend or early next week. No idea of the severity of their respective knee issues, but wasn’t Rodriguez’s the same injury as Jones’. Maybe he’s back before we think.

  138. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    I may have misread Bowden for bard, but, not mistaking that Bowden is not getting you beltran.

  139. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    If Garza is forced to shave his facial hair hed look like this
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0050156/

  140. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    I don’t think Beltran will bring a top prospect like the Mets are wanting……but I think several teams may offer nice packages of decent players. If the Mets want a top guy they should shop Reyes.

  141. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    It’s great to hear about Chavez. Anxious to get him back. Hope he can stay healthy.

  142. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Joe,

    Done :)

  143. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Beltran is playing a lot better than Berkman was a year ago……a lot better.

  144. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    houston took a pitcher back that had little opportunity to get very far in NY. NYY needed a bat. Boston wants a bat. There’s a difference.

  145. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    This is an interesting season because as it goes deeper and deeper there is a big segment of fans who are sitting at home wondering if the Yankees are more concerned with winning or with placating veteran ego’s.

    There’s no doubt there are better lineups they can draw up with Jeter dropped and Posada replaced with a better more potent bat, but the team seems almost gunshy of a repeat of what happened in May with Posada.

    Are the front office people and owners okay with tanking a season by showing deference to guys like Jeter, Posada and even Tex who should no longer be occupying the 3 spot in the lineup?

    It really does feel like there is a “we’re going down with this ship” mentality with this team.

    They look at the won loss record and play dumb that this team has major issues in the lineup.

    I guess at some point Cashman and the front office have decided that they don’t care if they win with guys hitting .200 as long as they win.

    The only problem with that line of thinking is that it’s making it tougher and tougher for them to win with guys barely producing on offense outside of the one double digit game they enjoy once a week or so.

    If nothing happens at the trade deadline I think the message is clear. You guys wanted Posada and gave him that standing O? You get him. You guys wanted Jeter and were blasting us for trying to control the years and dollars? You get him.

    The next 11 days are going to tell you a lot about what the front office is thinking here.

  146. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    I may have misread Bowden for bard, but, not mistaking that Bowden is not getting you beltran.

    ————–

    Why not?

    Yankees got Lance Berkman for Mark Melancon and a low level non-prospect.

    Beltran’s having a better season but he’s also got a longer track record of major injuries and Bowden is still a vastly better prospect than Melancon was at the time he was traded.

  147. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Bedard might make a start before trade deadline. He would cost less than any of the two and if he can stay healthy(big if), he can bring us that solid #2 starter. I like the thought of our #1 and 2 being lefties in the playoffs.

  148. Warning Track Power July 20th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Chavez can not return soon enough.
    I imagine he will gets starts vs. a RH

    Play some 3rd. Nunez can move to SS that same day to give Jeter a day off.
    Not sure how much 1st base Chavez can play.
    Yankees can always insert Posada there or Swisher to give Tex a day off.

  149. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    I look at what the Astros got for Berkman as a fair starting point for what the Mets should expect for Beltran

    ==========================

    OK. I don’t think you’re necessarily on target with that. Berkman was having a lousy season, whereas Beltran has performed at an all-star level. Also need to consider the market. Beltran is the best bat on the market. Pretty sure that wasn’t the case with Berkman.

    Beyond that, Bowden doesn’t meet the standard of the package the Astros got.

  150. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    G. Love,

    Maybe that’s part of it…..but I think if they stand pat it’ll be more about price tags than anything…….I think they’ll replace Posada before its over unless he has a big turn around…..either internally with Montero or externally via trade.

  151. DocTodd July 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Derek Jeter 3K….Is that a short film showing Jeter getting the golden sombrero??

  152. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    houston took a pitcher back that had little opportunity to get very far in NY. NYY needed a bat. Boston wants a bat. There’s a difference.

    —————

    Wait – so what you’re saying is that the Yankees in a position of need got a player for much less than what the Red Sox would give up for a player in a position of want?

    That goes against everything that the supply and demand premise stands for.

  153. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Melancon wouldn’t get Beltran this year…..not even close.

  154. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    I look at what the Astros got for Berkman as a fair starting point for what the Mets should expect for Beltran

    ==========================

    OK. I don’t think you’re necessarily on target with that. Berkman was having a lousy season, whereas Beltran has performed at an all-star level. Also need to consider the market. Beltran is the best bat on the market. Pretty sure that wasn’t the case with Berkman.

    Beyond that, Bowden doesn’t meet the standard of the package the Astros got.

    ————-

    Mell,

    Bowden is light years better than Melancon. At least Bowden has shown he can get major league hitters out when given the opportunity.

  155. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Whos contract will end up being more of an albotross Alex or Tex?

  156. Chip July 20th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    Melancon wouldn’t get Beltran this year…..not even close.

    ———–

    I agree. But Bowden is much better than Melancon

  157. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Much more.demand for Beltran = higher price than Berkman.

  158. Warning Track Power July 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    SOS-
    Right now its Tex by a mile.

    What is wrong with his swing?
    Why is his average down in the dumps?

    I chalk it up to an enormous amount of pressure he has applied to himself.
    Instead of being a superhero, he needs to be himself and let the game come to him.

  159. BTX July 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    G. Love – unfortunately, I think you are right. I think there is fear on their part, more than it is being concerned with placating egos.

    Jeter and Posada have been 2 of the worst hitters at their positions. Jeter has the 19th ranked OPS in the league, barely ahead of utility players like Brenden Ryan and Yunesku Betancourt.

    They have given both guys adequete time. Time is up

  160. blake July 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    “I agree. But Bowden is much better than Melancon”

    Support this statement.

  161. Betsy July 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    No thank you on Garza – he’s definitely not a difference maker; he was only ok his last couple of years in the East. The Yankees need a stud – short of that, they’ll just have to hope and pray they get the pitching they need to make it through the post season. Better that than making dumb trades

  162. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    G.Love,
    I trust that Cashman will do the right thing and upgrade with another stick on this team. Which in turn will end up taking alot of ab from PO. As far as Jeter goes. Hes our leadoff guy no matter what he does until seasons end IMO. Next year is a different story.

  163. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    …..It really does feel like there is a “we’re going down with this ship” mentality with this team…..

    …..If nothing happens at the trade deadline I think the message is clear. You guys wanted Posada and gave him that standing O? You get him. You guys wanted Jeter and were blasting us for trying to control the years and dollars? You get him. …….

    ———

    Great post. Spot on.

    I think the FO is scared of the fan’s reaction and are willing to let this play out and hope for the best. And it could if we catch lightening in a bottle during the post.

  164. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Bowden is light years better than Melancon. At least Bowden has shown he can get major league hitters out when given the opportunity.

    =============================

    Really? When exactly did he do that? He’s got 43 major league innings in during which he’s allowed 72 baserunners and posted a 5.82 ERA.

  165. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Is there a difference between Berkman last year and Beltran this year? Berkman made a big recovery this year, but last year was nothing but a spare part on any team. He could barely move.

  166. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    I think Chip has Bowden confused with Bard ;)

  167. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    WTP,
    I cant believe Long hasnt fixed Tex yet. Its eerily similar to what happened to Giambi. Came in as a 300 hitter with power. Ended up as a pull happy all or nothing at bats. I think blinders would do the trick. That way they cant see that short porch in right field.

  168. 4time July 20th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    I’d love Garza, but his pricetag would be similar to Jimenez. Not as much, but similar.

    That’s the problem with trying to acquire good pitching on the trade market. Good, not great pitchers like Garza will command as much as a legit ace should. Jimenez’ price will be as though you are getting a 27 yr old Roy Halladay or Cliff Lee.

  169. 4 NYY July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Anyone have an update on Norton ? Getting healthy or not ?

  170. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    I think you miss the point with Jeter. It’s not a matter of placating the fans, it’s a matter of Girardi and Cashman weighing the pros and cons of moving Jeter on an involuntary basis down in the lineup.

    No good manager makes those kinds of decisions based solely on short term performance or performance at all for that matter. He’s the captain of the team, an icon, and the most respected player in the clubhouse. Decisions that can affect team chemistry need to be factored into any decision. If the feeling is the negatives outweigh the positives they won’t and shouldn’t do it.

    Next spring is another story.

  171. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    ——

    I’m not so sure that Jeter won’t leadoff next year. I could see Girardi saying that 2011 was a bad year and let’s see how he does at the start of 2012.

    If he still doesn’t do well, Girardi will say he needs at least 150 ABs before making a determination and so on….

    idk

    Anyway, the thought of Hottie Chavez in the lineup soon is making me hot and bothered :P (Girly post)

  172. West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    Fans here give way too much credit and hardly any blame to Long and Rothschild.

  173. Joe from Long Island July 20th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    G.Love – the one thing that doesn’t go along with your theory – that they’re content to “go down with this ship” -as you put it – is that it makes poor business sense.

    Yes, they team as constructed can certainly win a lot of games in the regular season. That’s being shown.

    The thing is, can the team as constructed win in the postseason? That’s where the holes in the team become very glaring; two of them are the ones you pointed out, Jeter and Posada.

    There’s an awful lot of money to be had from those postseason games – tickets, TV, concessions, etc. Plus the publicity, which keeps the Yankees’ brand a hot item. To risk all of those dollars, for the sake of aging ballplayers, seems foolhardy from a business perspective.

    I’m not a businessman, but I don’t know how else one can see this.

    So, based on business considerations, I have to think some move(s) will be made. Cash did so last year at the deadline. Right now, I can only logically conclude that the issues are one of price. The time it is taking would be reflective of the fact that it’s not only Cash looking to buy, but other GMs, and offers go back and forth many times.

    Just my thoughts.

  174. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    I changed my mind on Garza. If he shaved his facial hair hed look like this man.

    http://www.google.com/search?r.....no+picture

    No thanks.

  175. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    I do think the fan response, i.e. the standing ovation, given to Posada after he pulled that nonsense in May scared the heck out of the Girardi and the rest of the front office from touching Posada and Jeter again.

    At the time I was infuriated with Posada for quitting on the team that Saturday and then having his wife lie about the reason on Twitter. Everything’s been forgiven, but at the time the last thing I was going to do was give Posada a standing O for that nonsense.

    The fans, i.e. the consumers, sent a message to the front office. Hands off our sacred cows.

    I think they are listening to the detriment of the team.

    Beltran would be a no brainer for this team as he could rotate DH and OF and improve the offense significantly. For the Yankees to appear to be so no interested tells me they don’t want to ruffle Jorge’s feathers again and keep Jeter happy by not bothering his buddy.

    Just is tough to watch Jeter pull that 5 for 5 out of his hat 1 day and then morph back into one of the worst offensive players in the league. I guess the pressure of 3000 really wasn’t causing his offensive malaise.

  176. Betsy July 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Very good news on Chavez- I can’t believe it, but he looks like he’s going to make it back

  177. GreenBeret7 July 20th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Romine and Lyerly with homers for Trenton

  178. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    I’ll say this for Pedroia, for a guy who is not blessed with particularly great speed, he’s a pretty adept basestealer.

  179. 4time July 20th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Yanks just need to release Posada. Don’t even let the cloud hang over the team, don’t the fans an opportunity to chant his name or allow the media to seek out anonymous sources for him to complain to, etc.

    If he isn’t happy, he is going to let it be known and Jeter and the older players will undoubtedly support him and make it another player vs. ownership divide with Girardi stuck in the middle. That distraction is not necessary. If they have a replacement, whether it be a Beltran or trade or Montero, release Jorge and plug him in.

  180. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    At the time I was infuriated with Posada for quitting on the team that Saturday and then having his wife lie about the reason on Twitter. Everything’s been forgiven, but at the time the last thing I was going to do was give Posada a standing O for that nonsense.

    +1

    Im hiring a private investigator to see what ties Jeter has with Price. Cant rule out anything. Just like the all star homerun by ripkin. hmmm??

  181. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    4time,
    There is no way they are releasing Posada. Hes part of the fab 5. What they could do is release Cervelli and have either Montero or Posada be the backup(wearing a football helmet behind the plate).

  182. Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    That’s great news about Chavez. He could make a real difference for this team down the stretch and in the postseason. He can spell A-Rod and be a very capable DH. Posada needs to come up with a phantom injury to make room for Chavez. Jorge has been a warrior for this team, but he is done and needs to bow out quietly. Give him a special assistant to someone position in the front office.

    I would like to see Garder become the full-time leadoff man and Jeter move to the #2 spot where he played for years. This would not harm Jeter’s status and it might even let him contribute more than he is now because he will be able to do things to move the runner over. Gardner has been up and down but he seems to be ready to turn the corner. It is silly to have him batting 9th with all of the things that he can do with his bat and legs.

    Meanwhile, Baltimore is such a joke. One hit against Miller who cannot find the plate.

  183. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    They’re not releasing Cervelli. The team is committed to Cervelli as backup. That comes from Girardi. If you hear him talk Cervelli it’s always about how the pitchers are comfortable with him.

    I’m starting to think more and more that Girardi is Montero’s biggest obstacle to becoming a Yankee. Not Cashman.

  184. pat July 20th, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    “Decisions that can affect team chemistry need to be factored into any decision.”

    Jorge sent up that test balloon already this year and no one in the clubhouse mutinied.

    Moving Derek would probably be met by everyone saying all the right things and being deferential but they would likely be thinking, “it’s about time”.

  185. Bronx Jeers July 20th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    The fans, i.e. the consumers, sent a message to the front office. Hands off our sacred cows.

    ——————————————————————————————————————

    I always though that ovation was more of a ” we appreciate all you’ve done but I think we all know this is the end of the line” thing

    And it’s $$$ that sends the biggest message. We’ll see if they make a splashy move but what can they really do with Po & Derek?

    They can give Jones the DH aganist lefties but Po is still the best LH option. For Derek I think they’re just weighing the amt of extra offense vs. the potential fallout and believing that it’s not worth it.

    In an ideal world Derek pulls a Ripken and “steps down” Not as SS but as a top of the order guy. I wonder if anyone’s approached him about it? It would obviously look better if it came from him. But is Derek proud to a fault? It would seem so.

  186. Brian July 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    In 2009 Jeter batted second behind Damon. Both had great seasons. Worked so well they won the WS.

    In 2011, Plan A coming out of spring training was Jeter batting behind Gardner, at least vs right handers. Gardner stunk when the season started and they went with Plan B with Jeter leading off and Gardner buried in the lineup or on the bench.

    Now that Gardner is hitting, and has been for months, and running, and generally igniting the offense, why can’t Girardi have the nerve to go to Jeter and say, “It worked in 2009; it was how we wanted to do it at the start of this year, so now we’re going back to Plan A”.

    This w/b a start in the right direction. Get the player with the good batting average, on base percentage, who is leading the league in steals, back to top of the order most of the time.

    You also get him batting where, if he gets on base and Jeter doesn’t GIDP, he has hitters who can drive him in. He’s not buried at the bottom of the order behind Posada and Martin, both hitting in the 220s and Nunez, who is inconsistent.

  187. GoldGlove9486 July 20th, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Nice job by the Orioles against Andrew Miller and a ton of walks. I can’t believe Boston gets all these games with Baltimore so close together.

  188. ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Why do you think he would be easier to get than Ubaldo? He’s the same age, less expensive and under team control

    ___

    Because Garza is not an ACE?
    I said a little less not a lot less.
    I think it will take 3 for 1, like it took the Cubbies to get him.
    I still go with the Nova/Montero/Warren(Phelps/Mitchell) package, and maybe throw in a minor league fielder.

  189. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Meanwhile, Baltimore is such a joke. One hit against Miller who cannot find the plate

    ===============================

    At least the Orioles also suck when they play the Yankees.

  190. ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Pedroia is a gamer. I would love to have him on this team somewhere (NOT instead of Cano though, but somewhere).

  191. GoldGlove9486 July 20th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    ac1, could you be inferring that Pedroia would be a welcome addition at the shortstop position? :)

  192. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    Pedroia is a gamer. I would love to have him on this team somewhere (NOT instead of Cano though, but somewhere).

    ******************************

    the elf is too ugly to be a Yankee. ;)

  193. blake July 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Orioles new motto : we still suck but now we have attitude.

  194. GoldGlove9486 July 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    At least Buck Showalter talking about how competitive they are sounds like a good marketing idea.

  195. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Jeers,

    Posada is not the best option for DH against RHP. Acquiring a better player is the best option and ending Posada’s everyday role on the team is the best option.

    And here’s the thing why I’m saying the Yankees aren’t concerned with winning over ego/drama. The fact that you say they won’t move Jeter to avoid “potential fallout”. The fact that potential fallout is even a concern shows that the team is more concerned about psychological issues than winning and fielding the best team night in night out.

    Jeter’s 5 for 5 was mythical and it made all of us eat our words and think he was about to morph back into something amazing.

    I don’t see it. That is looking like it was a blip. He should not be at the top of this lineup against RHP anymore. The fact that he is comes down to fear about the drama that would surround moving him to the bottom of the order.

  196. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    blake July 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    Orioles new motto : we still suck but now we have attitude.

    *********************

    LOL

  197. Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    blake: You got that right. They are a remarkably bad team…with an attitude.

  198. Mgumpher July 20th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    If Girardi is the blockade to Montero, there is an easy fix Cashman can do. … Trade him.

    Farnsworth had become a Girardi favorite, and Farnsworth did respond somewhat. Girardi was using Farnsworth quite a bit in high leverage situations, Cashman traded him.

    Girardi seems like the type to get a bit attached to some of his players.

  199. Giuseppe Franco July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Brian July 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    In 2009 Jeter batted second behind Damon. Both had great seasons. Worked so well they won the WS.

    ——–

    You’ve got that reversed. In 2009, Jeter was the leadoff man with Damon second.

    In 2008, Damon leadoff with Jeter hitting second.

  200. GoldGlove9486 July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Has anyone found out if Girardi spent the night crying when Mitre was put on the DL?

  201. ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    It would suck to lose Montero but at least Romine is no slouch.
    Still the ONLY way i trade Montero is if the pitcher we get back is either an ACE or a #2-3 that is cheaper and will be here for a while (Ubaldo, Garza, Johan (ace), )

  202. Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    There is a reason why they don’t put the player names on the backs of the jerseys-team first. Jeter could really cement his legacy by asking to move down in the order, but then again he could have done so by moving to third or outfield when A-Rod arrived, so my guess is that he will continue to bat leadoff until Girardi moves him.

  203. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Girardi seems like the type to get a bit attached to some of his players.

    +++++++++

    Cashman should trade everyone and anyone on the team that he ends the name with a y or i. Problem solved.

  204. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Jeter could really cement his legacy by asking to move down in the order

    ===========================

    Yeah, because his legacy isn’t already cemented.

  205. Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    If Girardi is blocking Montero, perhaps it is time for Girardi to go. I like Girardi, but I think that he is an average manager.

  206. GoldGlove9486 July 20th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Jacoby Ellsbury….awesome hitter AND he is allowed to hit leadoff. What a combination.

  207. Mgumpher July 20th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    The O’s can’t be a bad team, we were told how Buck Showalter going there was magic, that just having there made all the difference with them and they were the best team in baseball spanning late last season to the beginning of this one.

    My, how things have changed.

  208. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    benshpigel Neat piece by NYT music critic Tony Tomassini about #Yankees game as “baseball symphony”: http://t.co/BVJHl8A

  209. sandy g July 20th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    the best thing that jeter can do for him and for the yankees is to tell the brass he is going to retire after the season.lets be real what else does he have to prove.5 rings 3000 hits.get out on top. if he stays next year is going to be ulgly like it is this year for posada. only mussina and pettitte know when to quit.jeter has taken a hit this year starting with the bob shepard furnural,old timers day,and the all star snub by jeter. what is next jeter flips out when girardi drops him in the order to 7th.if jeter wants his image to be great,do the right thing, and retire,and give the yankees time to go after reyes this winter.how awsome would a lineup that has reyes and gardner on top.

  210. Mgumpher July 20th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Does he call Jeter Jetey?

  211. Giuseppe Franco July 20th, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Girardi just signed a new deal last offseason. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

  212. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    When you’re getting all prospect huggy at the trade deadling, take a look at the O’s.

    They keep all their top prospects. They’ve been drafting at the top of the draft for most of the past 10 years.

    How they doin’?

  213. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Jacoby Ellsbury….awesome hitter AND he is allowed to hit leadoff. What a combination.

    =====================================

    For a guy who came in as a big ? heading into the season, he’s worked out pretty well for the Red Sox.

  214. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    benshpigel Interesting nuggets here RT @espnmlb Source: The Red Sox will face the Yankees on Fenway Park’s 100th birthday in 2012. http://t.co/KMYEBa1

  215. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    http://sports.yahoo.com/elite-.....d=25937426

    Time for the Yankees to fire their conditioning coach and hire this guy. They would get another 10 years from Jeter and Posada. Sign Alex for another 10 years.

  216. Mgumpher July 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    If the Yankees were to get BJ Upton (not saying they are or will or are even thinking it)… will Girardi call him BeeJee?

  217. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    If Girardi is blocking Montero, perhaps it is time for Girardi to go.

    ********************************

    we have absolutely no evidence that this is true

  218. blake July 20th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    “They keep all their top prospects. They’ve been drafting at the top of the draft for most of the past 10 years.”

    I think its more the decision making than the “keeping their prospects ” …..look at the Rays.

  219. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Gardner has an ability to use his legs to get himself into RISP mode. Jeter is batting .183 with RISP.

    IMO Jeter following Gardner as the 1-2 guys is not the way to make this lineup better. Gardner needs to be followed by someone who has a better chance to drive him in.

  220. blake July 20th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Can we trade Girardi for Mike Stanton…….hey they talked about it for Ozzie Guiellen.

  221. GoldGlove9486 July 20th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    What does everyone think about my prediction? Tonight is Freddy’s last start with the Yankees.

  222. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    If the Yankees were to get BJ Upton (not saying they are or will or are even thinking it)… will Girardi call him BeeJee?

    =========

    Not bad. Or maybe upitey.

  223. Kelvin July 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    I don’t think its Girardis decision. He is a soldier just follows orders. Upper management/cashman make those calls.

  224. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    blake,

    Just saying keeping all the prospects is a gamble that can sink a team. Evaluation and knowing when to deal them for proven assets is the art.

    A lot of the guys the O’s drafted were consensus top picks. They weren’t reaching.

  225. LGY July 20th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Chip

    After reading this thread, I’m convinced you have Michael Bowden confused with someone else.

  226. blake July 20th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    SI_JonHeyman 1 hour keep hearing #astros execs asked by new owner to pare payroll to $60M. unloading keppinger a start. shopping wandy/myers

    SI_JonHeyman 46 secs #dodgers are open for business now. will consider trades for useful vets (kuroda, carroll, lily, uribe, guerrier etc.)

    Hey…..Matt Kemp is a useful vet….

  227. Giuseppe Franco July 20th, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Complaining about lineup construction everyday is a futile exercise.

    Girardi has his way of constructing the daily lineup and he isn’t going to change it because the fans think it should be different.

  228. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Lockdown,
    I would put Gardner leading off. Followed by Granderson Cano Alex then Tex. I know its a lefty heavy lineup. But they have all proven to hit lefties well this year.
    Gardner
    Granderson
    Cano
    Alex
    Tex
    Swish

  229. blake July 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    G. Love,

    I agree there…..but the Yanks have been fairly good at evaluating their own recently. I just think Cashman is unwilling to deal the top guys for marginal upgrades or short term fixes.

  230. Mgumpher July 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
    If the Yankees were to get BJ Upton (not saying they are or will or are even thinking it)… will Girardi call him BeeJee?

    =========

    Not bad. Or maybe upitey.

    _________

    That would fit, wouldn’t it? lol.

  231. LGY July 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Wandy’s contract is just awful and kills his trade value.

    I have no idea what the Stros were thinking. That club is so poorly run.

  232. Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    You could run with this for a while. Ichiro could be “ichee”.

    I don’t see why this will be Freddy’s last start. They are going to face to M’s and A’s soon, to weak hitting teams. Freddy buys them time to make a deal or promote someone. He eats innings and keeps them in ballgames. He would have to get bombed early a few games in a row to lost his spot in the rotation.

  233. blake July 20th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    The Astros are really poorly ran…..they hung on for years trying to compete when they should have started the rebuilding years ago.

  234. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Just when you think the Phillies are neck deep in pitching. This Worley guy comes in with some extra gravy. 5-1 2.11 era.

  235. Chambliss July 20th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Sox are about to add some insurance runs that they don’t need against the pathetic Baltimore offense.

  236. Bronx Jeers July 20th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Posada is not the best option for DH against RHP. Acquiring a better player is the best option and ending Posada?s everyday role on the team is the best option.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Maybe Chavez could be that guy.

    Oddly enough moving Po out of the lineup could be less prolific than moving him down. And now he’s had his chance to break out. He did but couldn’t sustain it.

    As for as Derek…. I’m not one of those guys that can say “well, if he bats 9th instead of 1st they’ll score 7.4 more runs over the next 60 games…” but I guess the Yanks can. It’s possible the difference in production is so mimimal that it could be less than the distraction may cause which could effect more than just the offense. Obviously this is just speculation.

    The Yanks have their money in the bank for 2011. That’s not true for 2012. I think the big changes we all seek are coming then.

  237. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    sandy g July 20th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    the best thing that jeter can do for him and for the yankees is to tell the brass he is going to retire
    ///

    Hey sandy g, the best thing you can do for the world is go into your basement & blow your brains out :D.

  238. SoS July 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Do any of the B’s have a chance to make the rotation come 2012 spring training?

  239. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    GF-

    “Complaining about lineup construction everyday is a futile exercise.

    Girardi has his way of constructing the daily lineup and he isn’t going to change it because the fans think it should be different.”

    That’s why I don’t get into it.

  240. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    After reading this thread, I’m convinced you have Michael Bowden confused with someone else.

    ===============================

    Gibson? Seaver?

  241. Yankee Trader July 20th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    SI_JonHeyman 46 secs #dodgers are open for business now. will consider trades for useful vets (kuroda, carroll, lily, uribe, guerrier etc.)

    ——————————-
    Jamey Carroll, hitting close .300 playing SS would help with A-Rod out and Pena.

    Kuroda would have to agree to leave the west coast, but would help.

  242. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    Do any of the B’s have a chance to make the rotation come 2012 spring training?
    ////

    Yeah, Betances or Banuelos.

  243. blake July 20th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Do any of the B’s have a chance to make the rotation come 2012 spring training?”

    I think Betances might if he gets his innings in and gets his walks down in the 2nd half. He’s 3 years older than Banuelos and figures to be getting close…….my guess is that he starts the years at SWB though …..

  244. Mell July 20th, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Do any of the B’s have a chance to make the rotation come 2012 spring training?

    ===================================

    Seems to me like Betances is more likely than Banuelos…….but I’m just a guy on a blog.

  245. Yankee Trader July 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    The Brewers reached out to the Dodgers about infielder Jamey Carroll, tweets ESPN’s Buster Olney. For quite a while now, Carroll has been regarded as a natural fit for the Brewers on the left side of their infield.

    Carroll, 37, is hitting .290/.360/.360 this year in 321 plate appearances for the Dodgers. He’s capable of playing all around the infield and handling the outfield corners as well. With under $600K owed to Carroll after the trade deadline, he’s affordable too

  246. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Since the Dodgers are open for business, Cashman needs to work his voodoo magic.. Kershaw :P

  247. LockDown July 20th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    SoS July 20th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    —-

    I like it :D

  248. Yankee Trader July 20th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    Blake-

    In order to move Betances up to SWB, the Yankees will need to thin out the current logjam of capable starters.

  249. G. Love July 20th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    I’m sure we could get Mattingly back from the Dodgers if we asked nicely. They fired his hitting coach today.

  250. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    RiverAveBlues Game over in Tampa. Eric Chavez went 4-for-5 with two runs scored as the DH.

  251. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Betances had some BBs in last outing but encouraging was watching him pitch inside to both lefties & righties to reclaim the plate. He really has a plan when he pitches, contrary to the unconsidered worry that he’ll turn into Daniel Cabrera. That’s not really a consideration any more, even though FB command is still something he has to work on, as well as the occasional up CB.

    His last couple innings the other night were something to see. I think they were stupid to not let him pitch the sixth. They need to let him push through when he’s in a rhythm, which he had been for the last two. I was glad to see Cashman came back after a soda run and took his seat for that last display of nasty. I thought he was leaving, the way he was slapping and hugging one of the seated Trenton pitchers charting Betances (yes, Cashman was actually seen hugging a prospect).

  252. blake July 20th, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Trader,

    Yes. Trade them to the Mets for Beltran. :)

  253. ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Game over in Tampa. Eric Chavez went 4-for-5 with two runs scored as the DH.
    ____

    Bring him back…..

  254. LGY July 20th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Betances had some BBs

    ——-

    5 BB in 6 innings has to qualify as more than some.

  255. ac1 July 20th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    If Chavez gets back and plays, we won’t need Beltran, and then can focus on Garza or someone else.

  256. Joe from Long Island July 20th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    People shouldn’t be surprised or upset if Girardi is saying supportive things about Cervelli, or any other player. What’s he supposed to do? Say that he stinks? You want that kind of manager, go to Chicago and take Ozzie Guillen. That style sure is getting great results there.

    Publicly criticizing players – or anybody, for that matter – doesn’t accomplish anything positive. If somebody deserves to get ripped, you do it privately.

  257. 108 stitches July 20th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    At 37 and for the amount of games he’s played, Jeter would have to reinvent himself to be a serviceable shortstop for the final 2 years of his contract. The Yankees need to seriously consider who the SS will be in 2013 – 2014 during the next offseason.
    His place in Yankee history is secure. He shouldn’t go out the way Willie Mays and others have.

  258. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    LGY, You seem rather invested in some stance that Betances actually really, really sucks. You are an odd duck. Whatever.

  259. yankeefeminista July 20th, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    LGY July 20th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    Betances had some BBs

    ——-

    5 BB in 6 innings has to qualify as more than some.
    _____
    He essentially had a 10 day layoff with the exception of throwing 7 pitches in the All Star game, so I wouldn’t be too concerned. Last regular outing he only walked two batters and struck out nine.

  260. yankeefeminista July 20th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    *previous* outing to this one

  261. Giuseppe Franco July 20th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Amen, Joe.

    I’m not a fan of managers/coaches calling out their players in the media. Shows no class at all.

    I could never stand Ozzie Guillen. I don’t know how he gets this tough guy persona. He’s nothing more than a clown.

  262. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Joe-great post.

  263. Joe from Long Island July 20th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    108 – I think you’re right. I think that’s why they’re a little leary of trading Nunez. Right now, he’s the alternative to Jeter. Needs to work on the fielding, of course, but that’s fixable.

  264. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    YF, there’s also a big difference between the way he pitched last outing & a couple of earlier ones where he couldn’t find the plate & had like 4 hbp. He finished so well the other night, I thought they should have got off their robot schedule & let him pitch the sixth. He was really throwing free & easy with the ball just disappearing to get those futile swings.

  265. jacksquat July 20th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    I think you miss the point with Jeter. It’s not a matter of placating the fans, it’s a matter of Girardi and Cashman weighing the pros and cons of moving Jeter on an involuntary basis down in the lineup.

    No good manager makes those kinds of decisions based solely on short term performance or performance at all for that matter. He’s the captain of the team, an icon, and the most respected player in the clubhouse. Decisions that can affect team chemistry need to be factored into any decision. If the feeling is the negatives outweigh the positives they won’t and shouldn’t do it.

    Next spring is another story.

    So, next spring Jeter will not be “the captain of the team, an icon, and the most respected player in the clubhouse”?

    Just bull. Girardi is either a coward or a fool. What’s going to happen, Jeter is hitting 8th so “team chemistry” is affected and everyone hits 50 points lower? Please.

    Jeter hitting leadoff vs rhp is just completely ridiculous at this point and everyone supporting it just looks like an idiot.

  266. MTU July 20th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Joe/GF-

    Thirded on Guillen. He needs a straight jacket.

  267. Yanks78 July 20th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Betances is channeling his inner Ubaldo LOL

  268. LGY July 20th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    LGY, You seem rather invested in some stance that Betances actually really, really sucks. You are an odd duck. Whatever.

    —–

    Betances is my favorite pitcher in the system and has been since they drafted him.

  269. Warning Track Power July 20th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    before this series in tampa is over, there must be at least one play
    where the rays outfielders loses track of a fly ball and lands on the ground for a base hit.

    what a lame stadium.

    is this a mlb team or a glorified minor league team?

    way to go Bud.
    i’m sure you can fix this problem sooner or later.

  270. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    YankeesWFAN RT @YankeesPR: Catch @DRob30 right now with mike francesa on @wfan

  271. J. Alfred Prufrock July 20th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    ok

  272. JM July 20th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Totally unrelated to the various trade rumors but SI asked their writers to pick the best team they’d ever covered….Verducci’s is the 1998 Yanks.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....=hp_t11_a3

  273. LGY July 20th, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    He essentially had a 10 day layoff with the exception of throwing 7 pitches in the All Star game, so I wouldn’t be too concerned. Last regular outing he only walked two batters and struck out nine.

    —–

    The walks have been an issue all season outside of a few outings.

  274. Erin July 20th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

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    Erin-I don’t know about his college days, but I believe that Papelbon was a starter when he first came up to the majors.

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    Trenton tied and went ahead in the 7th and then Whitley imploded.

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