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No Granderson; Gardner leading off

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 21, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Brett Gardner CF
Derek Jeter SS
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez 3B
Chris Dickerson LF

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231 Responses to “No Granderson; Gardner leading off”

  1. GoldGlove9486 July 21st, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I like Dickerson….glad to see him get a day to play.

  2. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    This is looking like a spring training lineup.

    I would like to see Laird get a game here or there.

  3. Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Glad Granderson is getting the day off.

  4. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    )Repost

    Erin,

    No AC in my Durango either. Didn’t want to pay the $80 to have it recharged when the summer is essentially half over.

    Sounded like a good idea at the time…..

  5. GoldGlove9486 July 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    It would be a ST lineup if Cervelli played.

  6. m July 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Girardi using Granderson to get Jeter used to hitting 2nd again. :)

  7. BX33 July 21st, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Why is Granderson resting with a chance to win the series? He is our hottest hitter and in his prime, he doesn’t need any rest.

    Why is Nunez the human error machine, in there instead of Laird?

    And why is Dickerson still here?

  8. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    SoS July 21st, 2011 at 4:04 pm
    Montero didn’t play.

    ======

    Call up, traded, rest or injured?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Orders from Cashman. The more the Yanks don’t play Montero, the more Cashman see’s him being discussed. Cash likes to be talked about. No such thing as bad advertizing and publicity when it’s free.

  9. Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    GF-same thing happened to me. It quit working a few weeks ago and I figured I could survive without it since we’re approaching the end of July. Then we got this stupid heat wave. It looks like I’ve been sitting in a sauna for 3 hours by the time I get home.

  10. Pat M. July 21st, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Mr. Franco…….Well place points on the Gardner / Ellsbury discussion…….How you feeling by the way ????

  11. hardwired7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    “Why is Granderson resting”

    Apparently you haven’t watched the last couple of games.

    He’s beat up.

  12. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    I don’t care where Jeter hits leadoff or not. He should never have been moved out of the @2 slot in the first place.

  13. blake July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    You take 96 between the shoulder blades, run into a wall., and foul a ball off your foot in the same game……next day off sounds ok to me.

  14. LockDown July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    m July 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Girardi using Granderson to get Jeter used to hitting 2nd again. :)
    —-

    Jeter doesn’t mind batting 2nd. It’s batting 7,8 or 9 that’s the problem.

    By resting Granderson, Girardi can now make room for Gardner up top.

  15. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    BX33 July 21st, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    Why is Granderson resting with a chance to win the series? He is our hottest hitter and in his prime, he doesn’t need any rest.

    Why is Nunez the human error machine, in there instead of Laird?

    And why is Dickerson still here?

    ——————

    Because Granderson is beat up in his back and knee and needs a day off.

    And Dickerson is here so that the Yankees can have another OF capable of playing defense when they need to give someone a day off.

    But I’m sure the Yankees value your opinion and player evaluation skills…they’ll be calling you about a job shortly.

  16. JWeav July 21st, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Montero caught a night game last night. Today’s game was a day game and the heat index was over 100.

  17. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    I don’t care where Jeter hits leadoff or not. He should never have been moved out of the @2 slot in the first place.

    ————–

    well then you do care if Jeter hits leadoff or not.

  18. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    BX33 July 21st, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    Why is Granderson resting with a chance to win the series? He is our hottest hitter and in his prime, he doesn’t need any rest.

    Why is Nunez the human error machine, in there instead of Laird?

    And why is Dickerson still here?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Why is the sun yellow, or the grass green or the sky blue?

    WHY? WHY? WHY?

  19. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    LockDown July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    m July 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Girardi using Granderson to get Jeter used to hitting 2nd again.
    —-

    Jeter doesn’t mind batting 2nd. It’s batting 7,8 or 9 that’s the problem.

    By resting Granderson, Girardi can now make room for Gardner up top.

    ———-

    Please tell me that no one on this board thinks that Curtis Granderson is out of the lineup just so that Girardi can bat Gardner leadoff…please.

  20. Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    eboland11 Granderson said “Joe’s choice” on getting the night off. Said he’s “ready to go” if called on tonight to pinch hit, play def, etc

  21. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:46 pm
    BX33 July 21st, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    Why is Granderson resting with a chance to win the series? He is our hottest hitter and in his prime, he doesn’t need any rest.

    Why is Nunez the human error machine, in there instead of Laird?

    And why is Dickerson still here?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Why is the sun yellow, or the grass green or the sky blue?

    WHY? WHY? WHY?

    ————–

    Sun appears yellow because of something to do with yellow being the color most able to reach us from the sun’s distance.

    Grass is green because of chlorofil

    Sky is blue because of the way wavelengths of light refract off the atmosphere.

  22. RadioKev July 21st, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Well, at least it’s unlikely Jeter will hit into a double play with Gardener on, right?

  23. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    The only real thing keeping Ellsbury from being an elite center fielder for at least this year, is defense. Overall, more consistancy from year to year.

  24. Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    JackCurryYES Elias working OT: Sabathia is 2d pitcher since 1900 to start on birthday after winning each of last 7 gms. Other was Sad Sam Jones (1918)

  25. J. Alfred Prufrock July 21st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    JWeav, yeah the cranky guy who covers the team made that point. Makes sense. Glad you got to see him. Hope he’s on his way to the Bronx soon.

  26. LockDown July 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    LockDown July 21st, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    m July 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Girardi using Granderson to get Jeter used to hitting 2nd again.
    —-

    Jeter doesn’t mind batting 2nd. It’s batting 7,8 or 9 that’s the problem.

    By resting Granderson, Girardi can now make room for Gardner up top.

    ———-

    Please tell me that no one on this board thinks that Curtis Granderson is out of the lineup just so that Girardi can bat Gardner leadoff…please.
    ——

    I can’t speak for anyone else, but I certainly don’t. Granderson isn’t playing because he had a rough night last night.

  27. RadioKev July 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    JackCurryYES Elias working OT: Sabathia is 2d pitcher since 1900 to start on birthday after winning each of last 7 gms. Other was Sad Sam Jones (1918)
    ———-

    The statistics elves.

  28. 4time July 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    AdamRubinESPN
    Beltran confirmed to Newsday he prefers NL

  29. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Feeling fantastic, Pat. Thanks for asking.

    After going through such nightmare less than a year and a half ago (90% of my body was paralyzed), I’m now in the best shape of my life.

    I feel like I’m 20 years old again and my doctors simply can’t believe it. LOTS of bust ass work to get here but I have no intention of easing up.

    I’m feeling too good to slow down.

  30. Against All Odds July 21st, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    If they do keep Jesus hopefully he gets the call sooner rather than later.

  31. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Sad Sam Jones…Another Yankee steal from Boston.

    After being sold to the Yankees, Sad Sam was Sad no more. He was Smilin’ Sam.

  32. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    The only real thing keeping Ellsbury from being an elite center fielder for at least this year, is defense. Overall, more consistancy from year to year.

    ——————

    I would probably put Ellsbury in the Top 5 CFs in the game this year:

    (no particular order)
    Granderson
    McCutchen
    Ellsbury
    Kemp
    CarGo

  33. tomingeorgia July 21st, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Erin,
    I think I could have got through the day without knowing that!

  34. Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    RadioKev July 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    The statistics elves.

    *********************

    Santa’s elves have to find some way to keep busy over the summer. ;)

  35. blake July 21st, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    “Beltran confirmed to Newsday he prefers NL”

    So he prefers NY and he prefers the NL…..that settles it…..he’s going to the Mets.

  36. blake July 21st, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    The Braves should trade Vizcaino for Beltran

  37. Erin July 21st, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    tomingeorgia July 21st, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    Erin,
    I think I could have got through the day without knowing that!

    ************************

    :P

  38. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Granderson has gotten beat around for about a week and that turf may be spongy, but running on it with sore legs can’t be easy, and make no mistake, that roof has given him problems the last 3 games. He’s missed one game and DH’d in one game. He’s due for a break.

  39. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    My guess – Carlos Beltran has not played his last home game at Citi Field this season.

  40. Pat M. July 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    Mr. Franco….Good to hear that as I remember when you were going through a most desperate time……

  41. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Carlos gonzalez is removed from the game with a hand injury. Either hand or wrist on a swing. Does not look good.

  42. JobaTipsHisCap July 21st, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    http://www.thepostgame.com/blo.....nkees-ever

    DJ in the no.4?

    LOL, yeah right.

  43. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    This has probably been mentioned already. Chad Gaudin was released by the Nats-another retread to replace Mitre? LOL

    Mets interested in ex-Yankee now Brave Arodys Vizcaino.

    Dodgers released Wilkin De La Rosa. De La Rosa, 26, has a 3.24 ERA with 9.2 K/9 in 328 minor league innings as a starter and occasional reliever. Wasn’t he, at one time, in the Yankee system?

  44. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 21st, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    The fact that everyone declares that they prefer the NL tells me that there’s something wrong with the NL.

  45. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    This has probably been mentioned already. Chad Gaudin was released by the Nats-another retread to replace Mitre? LOL

    Mets interested in ex-Yankee now Brave Arodys Vizcaino.

    Dodgers released Wilkin De La Rosa. De La Rosa, 26, has a 3.24 ERA with 9.2 K/9 in 328 minor league innings as a starter and occasional reliever. Wasn’t he, at one time, in the Yankee system?

    —————-

    Chase Wright (LHP) was also released by the Brewers – could be a reunion.

    And trade for Melky, bring him on back too.

  46. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Trader, de La Rosa is a left handed pitcher thay NYYs converted from the outfield a couple of years ago. Was starting and had a back breaking change-up and around a 93-94 MPH fastball. He got hurt and hasn’t been the same since.

  47. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:05 pm
    Trader, de La Rosa is a left handed pitcher thay NYYs converted from the outfield a couple of years ago. Was starting and had a back breaking change-up and around a 93-94 MPH fastball. He got hurt and hasn’t been the same since.

    —————

    and didn’t he get busted for PEDs.

  48. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Agree that Grandy needs a break. It’s not like he has been hitting Shields anyway. Checked Shields last 2 starts against the Yankees, one a 6-2 loss and last weeks 1-0 loss. Grandy was 0 for 7.

    How can we lose anyway with CC pitching a CG on his birthday. Yankees win ignited by the new ignitor-Gardner!!

  49. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Braves are loaded with pitching…..Beltran could put them over the top

  50. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Yankee batters vs Shields

    http://www.baseball-reference......ubmitter=1

  51. Mike_Boston July 21st, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    would you rather 102 degrees or 6 feet of snow? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl.....a-14243094

    Give me the snow!!

  52. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    Braves are loaded with pitching…..Beltran could put them over the top

    ——————

    The problem is that you basically are going to put him in for Chipper Jones (with Prado moving to 3b while Jones is out)

    it wouldn’t change the fact that McLouth, Heyward and Uggla have been attrocious.

  53. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Braves are loaded with pitching…..Beltran could put them over the top

    ————————————
    Blake-

    Yes they are, and that’s with throwing Scott Proctor out there as the sacrificial lamb-their Meat Tray.

    I don’t know if Beltran will give them enough offense. Heyward is having an awful year although his roomate Freeman is heating up.

    Brooks Conrad, who single handidly lost the Giant series last October with his awful defense is playing 3rd until, if and when, Chipper gets back and Uggla has been ugly-although he hit 2 homers Tuesday night against Ubaldo. Musta been the thin air!

  54. RS July 21st, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I don’t know how I feel about Cervelli catching Hughes tomorrow…I wish he could just continue working with Martin

  55. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Atlanta is just such a bad offensive team: http://www.baseball-reference......2011.shtml

  56. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    With Atlanta, I’m more curious how soon until they blow out the arms of Kimbrel and Venters.

  57. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    CMW is scheduled to start Sunday…against Scranton.

  58. tomingeorgia July 21st, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    GB7,
    I wish CMW nothing but a bright future and a return to the bigs.

  59. 108 stitches July 21st, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    I’m hoping that the team gives C.C. such a large birthday run cushion that it allows Jeter to be taken out early, Nunez moves over to SS, and Brandon Laird is handling 3rd base.

  60. tomingeorgia July 21st, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    GB7,
    I also hope Jesus goes 4-4 against him.

  61. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    GB

    Thanks for the link for Shields. Looks like the bad BA’s of Swisher Tex and Grandy are probably due to the unhittable inside CU, which Cano has solved.
    Posada althogh he has a lifetime .303 average against Shields, hasn’t hit that pitch either when I’ve seen him play this year.

  62. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Russell Martin has shaved the mustache.

    May it rest in peace.

    May it burn in hell. :D

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock July 21st, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    If the Braves had been smart enough not to feed into that “clubhouse cancer” garbage, they’d still have Escobar. What a monumentally dumb trade they made. And I don’t care that the players all applauded when Alex Gonzalez walked in. Wonder if they’re still applauding.

  64. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Chip-

    Atlanta is at least outslugging the Giants, a really bad offensive team for a potential division winner.

  65. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Chip,

    Uggla and Heyward are both better than they’ve played…..they’ll hit. Biggest question with Beltran is where he’d play…..they need a CFer more than anything.

  66. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    How about a couple of low level minor leaguers to Toronto for Edwin Encarnacion?

  67. vinslol July 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    knowing nunez can play the OF I’d start laird at third. if someone’s injured you still have plenty of bench

    whatever, though

  68. J. Alfred Prufrock July 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    RS July 21st, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    I don’t know how I feel about Cervelli catching Hughes tomorrow…I wish he could just continue working with Martin
    ///

    Got a better idea. Let him throw to Montero.

  69. Chip July 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:25 pm
    Chip,

    Uggla and Heyward are both better than they’ve played…..they’ll hit. Biggest question with Beltran is where he’d play…..they need a CFer more than anything.

    —————

    Two questions:

    1. Season’s more than half over – when will they hit?

    2. What makes you certain Beltran’s knees can let him play CF?

  70. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    The Braves don’t handle nonsense…..you are part of the team or they ship you out. Escobar is overrated anyway…..very talented but not a great player

  71. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Chip,

    They have the second best record in the NL now……Uggla I don’t know but Heyward is too good to keep playing the way he has. And I don’t think Beltran can play CF…..that’s the rub.

  72. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 21st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
    If the Braves had been smart enough not to feed into that “clubhouse cancer” garbage, they’d still have Escobar. What a monumentally dumb trade they made. And I don’t care that the players all applauded when Alex Gonzalez walked in. Wonder if they’re still applauding.
    ——————————-

    Bobby Cox wanted him gone. He’s been a sparkplug for Toronto’s offense. Uggla from the Marlins wasn’t exactly stellar either and now he has an albatross contract.

  73. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I knew Joe would turn to jello and go for the kissing your sister split. Because Granderson couldn’t have the day off tomorrow? Joe treats every game the same way – a game against Tampa is the same as a game against the Mariners.

  74. West Coast Yankee Fan July 21st, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    RS July 21st, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    I don’t know how I feel about Cervelli catching Hughes tomorrow…I wish he could just continue working with Martin
    ///

    Got a better idea. Let him throw to Montero.

    ************

    Why would the Yankees replace a very good defensive catcher with a lousy one? Oh, that’s right, they wouldn’t.

  75. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    SI_JonHeyman 6 mins #yankees have a bit of interest in jeremy guthrie but know angelos does not want to trade with them.

    Lord….what for….to plunk the other teams best hitter…..please no

  76. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    They didn’t give up anything for Uggla…..sounded like a good deal at the time…..still coukd be.

  77. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Betsy,

    You don’t think Granderson could have used a break today?

  78. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 21st, 2011 at 5:33 pm
    J. Alfred Prufrock July 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    RS July 21st, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    I don’t know how I feel about Cervelli catching Hughes tomorrow…I wish he could just continue working with Martin
    ///

    Got a better idea. Let him throw to Montero.

    ************

    Why would the Yankees replace a very good defensive catcher with a lousy one? Oh, that’s right, they wouldn’t.

    Who is the very good defensive catcher?

  79. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Blake, yeah – that makes NO sense….

  80. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Blake, no, I think he could have waited until tomorrow. I want to win this series and I want to see my best players in there………..

  81. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Betsy,

    Did you watch the game.last night?

  82. West Coast Yankee Fan July 21st, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Martin.

  83. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    I understand wanting to bury the Rays…..but Grandy is pretty beat up and if CC is on they could have me in the lineup and win tonight.

  84. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Cervelli is catching Phil tomorrow? Yeeseh, that’s a good combo.

  85. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Any time on the link, Trader. I’m with you. CMW tosses a 4 hitter and loses 1-0 on a walk-off solo homer by Montero. CMW was enjoyable to watch pitch. Seldom saw anybody really tee off on him. The one game I remember was against the Mets…1 run in 8 innings and 10 strikeouts on nothing but fastballs.

  86. 4time July 21st, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Shouldn’t Hughes get the best lineup and CC the worst?

  87. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    # Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I knew Joe would turn to jello and go for the kissing your sister split. Because Granderson couldn’t have the day off tomorrow? Joe treats every game the same way – a game against Tampa is the same as a game against the Mariners.

    ———-

    Granderson didn’t choose to get beat up the last couple of days. He needs a break when he needs a break.

    Besides, the Rays aren’t exactly nipping at the Yanks’ collective heels in the standings. They are 7 games behind the Yanks in the loss column with just 10 days until the deadline.

  88. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 21st, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    Martin

    —-

    I think he was talking about replacing Cervelli with Montero, not Martin.

  89. hardwired7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Chavez playing at third base tonight.

    two words: bubble wrap.

  90. West Coast Yankee Fan July 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    ok.

  91. Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Thats a little cold Betsy, considering Granderson ran full speed into the outfield wall and got drilled behind the shoulder blade during last nights game.

    You know… but… screw him right?

  92. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    GF, I didn’t realize they were so far back…………..ok, well I had my say and I’ll let it go. I hate when he’s not in the lineup, but his health is the most important thing.

  93. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    WTF are you talking about ? I’m blaming Joe, not Granderson………..next time, READ

  94. Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    So Girardi should play beat up players because you want to see them every day? I don’t follow.

  95. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Infante was a first-time All-Star who hit a career-high .321 with eight homers and 47 RBIs. Dunn was 2-0 with a 1.89 ERA in 25 games in his rookie season.

    ————————-

    Blake-

    At the time it looked like a good trade for the Braves. Dunn will become the Marlins closer when they trade Leo Nunez this week.

  96. Pat M. July 21st, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Remember how Doreen used to have the daily ” guess the lineup ” pool…Well maybe we should start the most negative cynic pool….I think it’ll be a toss up between stuart a or the NH Yankee guy…..

  97. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Infante is a utility infielder…..him making the All star game was kinda a joke.

  98. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    No, of course you don’t follow.. You just believe what you want to believe because I’m not going to explain it to you. I’m not inclined to have discussions with people who do nothing but attack me. Have a nice day, though.

  99. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    i can’t understand where the other board could think that Betsy was a Negative Nancy. Never been any sign of that on here.

  100. Triple Short of a Cycle July 21st, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    ID,

    Still think Posada will hit this year?

  101. austinmac July 21st, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Granderson is 3-31 off Shields in his career. Sounds like a good day off to me.

  102. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    I can’t stand Shields…..sit change up and pound him

  103. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Speaking of a Dunn, just imagine the hatred for Adam Dunn on this board and the boos at the Stadium if he had been signed to be the DH and was playing like he has for the White Sox.

    Dunn seems like a decent chap, but seeing this move completely blow up in the White Sox’ (and Ozzie Guillen’s) collective faces thus far makes me giggle just a little bit.

  104. Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Betsy – Don’t come here complaining “why is this guy not playing today” if you didn’t even watch yesterdays game. I’m not attacking you, I’m attacking your stupid question. You can never tell the difference.

  105. jackamir July 21st, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Harper of the News says, Yankees are sniffing at the Mariners in earnest for King Felix…. Give them whatever they want….

  106. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    It could be quite a pitcher’s duel tonight.

  107. austinmac July 21st, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    I do recall a few on this board–thankfully not me–who thought Dunn would be perfect for the Yankees.

  108. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Harper of the News says, Yankees are sniffing at the Mariners in earnest for King Felix…. Give them whatever they want….

    I wouldn’t open the farm up for anybody…..if you’re going to do that then do it for Kershaw who at least is cheap and 23 years old…..and left handed.

  109. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    GB-

    This was the game in 2007 playoff series that the Indians forced Wang to bring his sinker up and teed off on him. They laid off the sinker dropping into the dirt. Attached the boxscore:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=271004105

  110. Betsy July 21st, 2011 at 5:54 pm

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  111. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    jackamir July 21st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
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    Just about, yeah. CC + Felix would be awesome.

  112. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    As I was discussing with my buddy Andy the other day, this would be a great time for the Rays to move Shields.

    His value has never been higher and he has never given any indication before that he will be able to maintain this low rate of H/IP.

    There are a number of teams who would be willing to pay through the nose for a solid, established starter with a relatively friendly contract in his late 20′s.

  113. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:55 pm

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  114. SoS July 21st, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Anyone else think today is judgement day for the Rays?
    A loss = sellers
    A win = buyers

  115. blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    “As I was discussing with my buddy Andy the other day, this would be a great time for the Rays to move Shields.”

    Totally agree…..the don’t need him and his value is at a peak. Thy should offer him.for Rasmus…..kinda hope they don’t because I think Shields will fall back towards mediocrity at some point and that Rasmus has a chance to be really good.

  116. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    GB-

    This was the game in 2007 playoff series that the Indians forced Wang to bring his sinker up and teed off on him. They laid off the sinker dropping into the dirt. Attached the boxscore:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/…..=271004105

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Trader, that game didn’t really exist. That was one of Selig’s computer run games.

    I should have said,”seldom got lit up”.

  117. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Dunn seems like a decent chap, but seeing this move completely blow up in the White Sox’ (and Ozzie Guillen’s) collective faces thus far makes me giggle just a little bit.

    ———————-

    GF-

    Did you see the replay last night where a ball hit into the netting bounced off and hit Ozzie in the face?

  118. Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Judgement day? 8 games back with 66 games to play? No one has every lost a 10 game lead in September… right?

  119. Benny Blanco July 21st, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    jackamir July 21st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    Harper of the News says, Yankees are sniffing at the Mariners in earnest for King Felix…. Give them whatever they want….==================

    I know it’s not gonna happen but if cashman someone how pulled a rabbit out of his hat… That would be amazing… But Seattle wont trade him. ***sigh****

  120. jackamir July 21st, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Felix has a workable contract and he is in his prime. One other thing please don’t talk MONEY. The Yankees generate plenty & what is it with you people, is it coming out of your pocket…..

  121. Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    2012 26 Seattle Mariners $18,500,000
    2013 27 Seattle Mariners $19,500,000
    2014 28 Seattle Mariners $20,000,000

    That’s Seattle’s motivation… should they actually need any.

  122. Benny Blanco July 21st, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    some how***

  123. austinmac July 21st, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    The Yankees always sniff around for Felix. The Mariners say no. Haven’t we beaten this pointless horse enough?

  124. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    Speaking of a Dunn, just imagine the hatred for Adam Dunn on this board and the boos at the Stadium if he had been signed to be the DH and was playing like he has for the White Sox.

    Dunn seems like a decent chap, but seeing this move completely blow up in the White Sox’ (and Ozzie Guillen’s) collective faces thus far makes me giggle just a little bit.

    ————————————————————————

    My buddy Andy is a huge White Sox (and Chicago sports fan generally) supporter and neither one of us can make heads nor tales of his utter collapse.

    It’s one thing for an aging veteran to fall off of the cliff or a very good player have a prolonged slump, but Dunn’s season is beyond wretched for a healthy player who is a top-flight power hitter who moved to a good homerun field.

    Dunn is hitting .031 off of lefties (2-64). I can’t think of another precedent ever that has had such a precipitous fall at this stage in their career.

  125. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Seattle is not poor, but that is big money…

  126. m July 21st, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    You gotta admire Felix for loving a team and a city like that. Not saying Seattle can’t win a championship, but…

  127. Joe from Long Island July 21st, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    This place is like Groundhog Day…….

    Time for dinner and a drink.

  128. jackamir July 21st, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Who would you rather have Posada or Hernandez. Jorge’s salary comes off the books…

  129. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Adam Dunn and Alex Rios both fallen off a cliff, with enormous contracts tied around their legs!!

  130. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    blake July 21st, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    “As I was discussing with my buddy Andy the other day, this would be a great time for the Rays to move Shields.”

    Totally agree…..the don’t need him and his value is at a peak. Thy should offer him.for Rasmus…..kinda hope they don’t because I think Shields will fall back towards mediocrity at some point and that Rasmus has a chance to be really good.

    ———————————————————————————-

    I think it is going to take quite a bit to get Rasmus out of St. Louis (Shields would not provide the kind of contract relief that St. Louis would need).

    The fact that the Cards are fielding offers for Rasmus says alot about how far his relationship with LaRussa has soured his potentially overly-selfish personality.

    That said, he is one heck of a talent. I wondered aloud the other day if a challenge trade of B.J. Upton straight up for Rasmus might work for both teams (It’s so rare to have a pure challenge trade. My favorite is still Ozzie for Templeton, although Baylor for Easler was kind of fun).

  131. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    The only way NYYs get Hernandez from Seattle is if Nintendo goes belly up.

    ——————————————————————————

    Spot on. A Hernandez trade is a pipe dream for the rest of the league.

  132. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Everything is for sale, it’s just a matter of price.

  133. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    Adam Dunn and Alex Rios both fallen off a cliff, with enormous contracts tied around their legs!!

    ————————————————————————————-

    Speaks volumes to the brilliance of Kenny Williams and the win now at any cost mentality.

  134. hardwired7 July 21st, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Stringing Cashman along again might help Jack Z. get over his ‘losing streak blues’.

  135. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    Judgement day? 8 games back with 66 games to play? No one has every lost a 10 game lead in September… right?

    ————————————————

    1978: The Yankees trailed by 14 games in the AL East on July 20. But the Bronx Bombers won 52 of their remaining 73 games and Bucky Dent’s game-winning home run in the one-game tie breaker with the Red Sox gave New York the division

    1995: On August 3, the Mariners trailed the California Angels by 13 games and were two games under .500. But the Mariners went 35-10 while the Angels went 22-33 in the final 55 games and Seattle won the West. They would take their success all the way to the ALCS before falling to the Indians.

    1969: On August 14, the New York Mets trailed the Chicago Cubs by 10 games in the NL East standings. But a 38-11 run to end the season allowed the Miracle Mets to capture the East by eight games. The Mets would go on the claim the World Series in five games over the Orioles.

  136. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    CJ Wilson. 8 innings, 2 hits, 1 walk, 8 strikeouts. he lost 1-0 on an unearned run in the 2nd inning. That’s a rough loss.

    Weaver with 7 innings, 7 hits, 2 walks, 6 strikeouts for the win

    Carlos Gonzalez of Colorado went for an MRI on his wrist.

  137. Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Until later. Happy Birthday CC-bring your fans a win tonight!!

  138. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 6:12 pm
    Irreverent Discourse July 21st, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    Judgement day? 8 games back with 66 games to play? No one has every lost a 10 game lead in September… right?

    ————————————————

    1978: The Yankees trailed by 14 games in the AL East on July 20. But the Bronx Bombers won 52 of their remaining 73 games and Bucky Dent’s game-winning home run in the one-game tie breaker with the Red Sox gave New York the division

    1995: On August 3, the Mariners trailed the California Angels by 13 games and were two games under .500. But the Mariners went 35-10 while the Angels went 22-33 in the final 55 games and Seattle won the West. They would take their success all the way to the ALCS before falling to the Indians.

    1969: On August 14, the New York Mets trailed the Chicago Cubs by 10 games in the NL East standings. But a 38-11 run to end the season allowed the Miracle Mets to capture the East by eight games. The Mets would go on the claim the World Series in five games over the Orioles.

    ———————————————–

    1993 Braves: 9.5 GB on August 7. Thank you Fred McGriff.

  139. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    # Yankee Trader July 21st, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Dunn seems like a decent chap, but seeing this move completely blow up in the White Sox’ (and Ozzie Guillen’s) collective faces thus far makes me giggle just a little bit.

    ———————-

    GF-

    Did you see the replay last night where a ball hit into the netting bounced off and hit Ozzie in the face?

    ———-

    No, I didn’t see that. Don’t want to cause an injury to anyone, but I’d be perfectly happy with a little humiliation.

  140. 108 stitches July 21st, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    SoS July 21st, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Anyone else think today is judgement day for the Rays?
    A loss = sellers
    A win = buyers
    ““““““““““““““

    Sellers. No suprise if Shields and Upton are dealt. Where remains to be seen but the Rays have talent in AAA and clear some $$$ off the books.

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  142. MaineYankee July 21st, 2011 at 6:22 pm

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    In the past Ellsbury had a problem with the inside FB.

    I haven’t watched him alot this year but I think he may have figured it out and is turning on them, hence his power surge.

    One way he compares to Damon is he doesn’t have the strongest arm.

  143. jacksquat July 21st, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    I don’t think the Rays have the offense to make a run at the division this year.

  144. The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    I’m a bit curious why the Rays haven’t brought up Desmond Jennings yet.

  145. MaineYankee July 21st, 2011 at 6:24 pm

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  146. G. Love July 21st, 2011 at 6:25 pm

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  147. MaineYankee July 21st, 2011 at 6:25 pm

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  148. MaineYankee July 21st, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    G. Love July 21st, 2011 at 6:25 pm
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  149. MaineYankee July 21st, 2011 at 6:28 pm

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  150. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    # The Mets are Pond Scum July 21st, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    ————————————————————————

    My buddy Andy is a huge White Sox (and Chicago sports fan generally) supporter and neither one of us can make heads nor tales of his utter collapse.

    It’s one thing for an aging veteran to fall off of the cliff or a very good player have a prolonged slump, but Dunn’s season is beyond wretched for a healthy player who is a top-flight power hitter who moved to a good homerun field.

    Dunn is hitting .031 off of lefties (2-64). I can’t think of another precedent ever that has had such a precipitous fall at this stage in their career.

    ———–

    I certainly can’t make heads or tails about his collapse either.

    It was expected that he wouldn’t make contact often, but when he did, the ball would go a long way. But nobody could have anticipated this much of a collapse.

    I think he’ll bounce back sooner or later, but Williams could decide to sell low on Dunn (like they did with Swisher) to try and cut their losses.

    Rios’ collapse is not surprising but Dunn’s is.

  151. Giuseppe Franco July 21st, 2011 at 6:30 pm

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    It’s not hard to use.

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  152. GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 6:32 pm

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  154. MaineYankee July 21st, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 21st, 2011 at 6:32 pm
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